The Moment This Officer Defended the Constitution — She Lost It! [Case Analysis]

Added: 2026-05-18

[00:00:01]Welcome back to public friction.

[00:00:03]Today we are outside a local post office in Colorado, a traditional public forum funded by taxpayers.

[00:00:09]Our auditor is simply standing outside, fully within his First Amendment rights to record in a public space.

[00:00:15]But as you are about to see, the mere presence of a camera is often enough to trigger a severe case of public entitlement.

[00:00:21]Let's see how quickly a peaceful afternoon turns into a reality check.

[00:00:28]That's how you're going to do it to me.

[00:00:31]Not the face covering. What are you doing?

[00:00:35]Huh? What are you doing? Why are you not showing your face? That's what's going on.

[00:00:39]Like, what are you up to? Oh, I have nothing better to do.

[00:00:42]Well, maybe not do that. Uh, this is what I want to do though.

[00:00:46]Should ask people first.

[00:00:49]I don't like to ask before permission.

[00:00:52]I like that.

[00:01:02]You want me to call the cops? What? I'll call the cops.

[00:01:05]>> For what? You're taking my information. Okay.

[00:01:09]Call the cops.

[00:01:13]Is it okay if I get your VIN number real quick?

[00:01:16]What the Get the away from my car.

[00:01:18]Why are you hitting me?

[00:01:20]Don't take my VIN number.

[00:01:22]>> Things take a serious turn as the situation escalates from words to physical contact.

[00:01:27]Notice how she reacts when the camera captures her vehicle's identification number, information that is, by law, in plain public view.

[00:01:34]Her decision to initiate physical friction is a textbook example of an unwarranted escalation.

[00:01:40]In her mind, she is the victim, yet she is the one crossing the line into potential legal trouble. Don't touch that vehicle.

[00:01:47]What? Don't touch that vehicle. But she can touch me.

[00:01:50]She can She can hit me.

[00:01:52]But for me to take out of here. What?

[00:01:56]Call the cops now.

[00:02:00]Putting your hands on me is crazy.

[00:02:02]Yeah, well, doing that is crazy.

[00:02:04]>> Can you calm down with the language? No.

[00:02:07]Sorry. No reason for bad language.

[00:02:09]>> Hey, I'm at the post office and I've got this guy with a camera and a face mask taking pictures of me, my car, my VIN number, won't tell me who he is.

[00:02:20]>> we we do have a report of it. We have officers advised that they're going to come Okay, well, I like he literally is not leaving. He is taking pictures of my car and me. Yeah, we we are aware and he has been doing this for a while.

[00:02:38]We do believe that the officers will let that way and they're going to Well, do I can't stay here and do this with this guy.

[00:02:47]Yeah, you don't need to be there. The officers are aware.

[00:02:53]Are you okay, ma'am? No. What's going on?

[00:02:56]Ask him.

[00:03:00]I just called the police.

[00:03:05]What's going on?

[00:03:07]I guess some dude being a weirdo just filming people without their consent.

[00:03:10]What's going on?

[00:03:19]I'm sorry, what?

[00:03:21]What's going on?

[00:03:26]What?

[00:03:29]Okay.

[00:03:37]Oh, yeah.

[00:03:39]I knew you supported it.

[00:03:41]Here we go.

[00:03:44]Congratulations. You joined the club.

[00:03:48]All right, how's it going? I just called the police. Don't worry about the police. So, what you're doing is a violation of federal law. You're not allowed to record on these premises. Not all the way up to the parking lot. It's not my opinion, it is federal law. I didn't do it. Other customers have already called the police because you are not allowed to do this. I don't think you're aware that you're committing a crime. That's why I'm letting you know you are committing a crime. You're not allowed to record any of this stuff. Not who's coming in, not who's going out, not license plates.

[00:04:12]>> is that? You're not allowed to record >> Wait, what law is that?

[00:04:15]You're not allowed >> no. What law is that? What law is that?

[00:04:18]That's your job to know what law >> No, no, no. What law is it? Yeah, the law >> here. It's your job to know it.

[00:04:22]>> No, you're the one that's >> If you're going to enforce it >> And you No, I'm not. Law enforcement's going to enforce it.

[00:04:27]>> is it? Law enforcement >> What law? Law enforcement is going to tell you what >> is it? So, you don't know the law, but you think it's a law. No, it's posted inside if you want to go look at it. I'm not going to give you the statute number.

[00:04:37]>> rules aren't for inside. No, the rules are for the entire property and this is federal property.

[00:04:40]>> The rules basically say that So, you're out of your mind. You don't know that you're breaking the law and the police verbatim on poster seven, it says that basically without permission, we don't need we don't need permission to film for news purposes inside. And I'm not even inside. No.

[00:04:54]No, it's You want to show you the paper?

[00:04:58]Put a This postal employee steps outside his jurisdiction to enforce an imaginary rule.

[00:05:04]He confidently claims that recording outside the facility is a violation of federal law, yet completely fails to cite a single statute.

[00:05:12]Instead of doing his actual job, he attempts to use his position to intimidate a citizen. It's a classic false alarm born from a complete misunderstanding of the very policies, like poster seven, that he is supposed to uphold.

[00:05:24]I I have rights.

[00:05:27]Do you have a right to put your hands on somebody in public?

[00:05:31]Yeah, you do. For what? How am I harassing you?

[00:05:35]I'm not engaging. You started talking to me first, so you just did. It's on camera.

[00:05:41]Yeah, exactly. So, and I'm the one harassing.

[00:05:44]Wonderful.

[00:05:45]You're ready for the police? Yeah, okay.

[00:05:48]So, you can get educated today. I don't need to be educated. Yeah, you will.

[00:05:51]Actually, you'll be educated. How how will how will I be educated? Not answering the question. Exactly. Can't answer the question because you don't know. I explained to him that what he's doing is a violation of the federal law.

[00:06:01]Time for you to learn that it's legal.

[00:06:04]No one's harassing anybody. I mean it out of the post office and he feels like it's He doesn't understand he's committing a crime. I went to explain this to him and his response to me is that if I can't quote It's not against the law. You have received Okay. Yeah.

[00:06:18]First Amendment protected activity.

[00:06:21]First Amendment protected activity, man.

[00:06:28]Yep, it's not against the rules. Yep, not against the law. Go back Dismissed.

[00:06:49]Who's she on the phone with?

[00:06:51]Her husband?

[00:06:59]Somebody's giving her some good advice though, to leave.

[00:07:02]Excuse me, can I ask what you're doing?

[00:07:04]I'm sorry? What are you doing? I'm just making a video. Um I did not authorize you to put me on this, so I need you to take me off. I I need to use I need to use your picture for Tinder so I can catfish and get more dates. I don't care. I didn't authorize my face to be on But I need more dates though.

[00:07:19]What? You just heard me. I did not >> not nice.

[00:07:23]Neither is you filming me without my permission.

[00:07:25]>> What?

[00:07:26]What's wrong with my camera? I don't care. I don't want to be on your camera.

[00:07:30]Stop filming me or I'm going to call the cops. Call them.

[00:07:33]I will. Because this is like Can you call them right there though? I want to hear the the phone call.

[00:07:38]I don't think that anybody's okay with them being on film without them knowing.

[00:07:43]I'm not authorizing you to >> Wait, can you call the cops though? I want to hear the phone call. Why? I just want to hear it. Why? I'll give you five bucks.

[00:07:50]>> No. I want you to take me off of your camera. I want you to stop filming me.

[00:07:53]>> I'll do it if you give me some money.

[00:07:54]No, I ain't going to do Why?

[00:07:57]>> Take me off your camera. I did not authorize you to put me on your camera.

[00:08:00]>> I'll take Look, how about this? If If If you take me out on a date, I'll remove the footage.

[00:08:14]Siri, can you call the cops, please?

[00:08:18]Calling emergency services.

[00:08:35]I'm at the post office in Carbon Colorado.

[00:08:42]Yes, I'm not okay with this guy and now he's telling me that I need to take him out on a date to get me off of his camera. I'm not okay with this.

[00:08:53]Yeah, my name is >> [snorts] >> I don't want to give her any ammo of me following an overturned car. I can do that too. I can stay right here because this guy is refusing to film or stop filming me. He's still filming me.

[00:09:21]I am not okay with this.

[00:09:26]Yes, I will stand right here and wait because there's been multiple people that have complained about this guy filming without their permission and the police not being okay about this. He's being really rude about it.

[00:09:38]I very respectfully asked him to stop filming me and he has not.

[00:09:45]Thank you.

[00:09:50]So the cops will be here in just a moment. That's what someone said an hour ago. Yeah, well they're sending someone right now.

[00:09:56]That's what they said an hour ago. Well, then I guess we'll find out because you're still filming me after I asked you not to film me. Wait, what crime though? For what crime are they coming?

[00:10:03]>> Because I don't want to be filmed. But no, but what crime are they coming for?

[00:10:07]Because you're filming me with me telling you I don't want to be >> That's a crime. It's quite remarkable how some people treat 911 as a personal customer service hotline for their hurt feelings.

[00:10:17]While actual emergencies might be happening elsewhere, public resources are being diverted here simply because someone didn't like the look of a camera. It's a staggering waste of taxpayer dollars and police time. But I want to hear from you. Should there be a fine for calling the authorities over illegal activity? Drop a comment below and tell me what you think about this misuse of our public services. Yeah, it is. What law?

[00:10:39]I guess we'll figure it out when the cops get here.

[00:10:41]>> We'll figure it out later.

[00:10:43]So it's okay if I video you until they show up, right? No, it's not. I'm telling you to stop filming me.

[00:10:51]You never asked me my permission.

[00:10:53]>> Well, you got already gave me permission.

[00:10:54]>> No, I did not.

[00:10:54]>> Yeah, you did.

[00:10:55]>> No, I didn't. So so here's what happened. The moment you left your house, you gave me permission.

[00:10:59]>> No, I did not.

[00:11:00]>> Yeah.

[00:11:00]>> And here comes the police officer right now. Okay. So I would love to see talk to this gentleman here.

[00:11:07]Cuz I'm not okay with you putting me on there. I don't know what you're doing with my stuff. I don't know what you're doing with my face and that's not okay.

[00:11:16]Excuse me, officer.

[00:11:21]I want to talk to you.

[00:11:25]I think he's trying to park.

[00:11:27]I don't think he wants to block the traffic.

[00:11:34]You are a strong with kids in face.

[00:11:36]That's why What do you mean? Cuz I have a camera? No, because you're being rude and disrespectful.

[00:11:40]>> Wait, how was I rude? Because I asked you not to put me on your camera. That's not being rude. That's That's you being rude.

[00:11:46]>> because I'm asking you Well, you're trying to tell me what to do. No, I'm asking you not to put my my face which you have to me.

[00:11:52]>> I'm not telling you what to do. I don't care. I don't want to be on your camera.

[00:11:56]>> Then I suggest moving along. Yeah, you He has the right to record. You can do whatever he's doing in public. He's on public space. He can record people. So.

[00:12:05]Watch as Lieutenant Kirkland nips this entire situation in the bud, right to her face.

[00:12:10]He doesn't entertain her emotional narrative for a second. Instead, he stands firmly on the side of the law.

[00:12:16]For someone who expected the police to act as her personal shield against the camera, this instant reality check is a bitter pill to swallow.

[00:12:23]It's professional. It's direct. And it serves as a powerful reminder. The Constitution doesn't care about your comfort level. You know, when I would go up to him nicely and say I don't want to be on your camera. I don't know what he's doing with me on your camera.

[00:12:34]>> right, but it it's not against the law for >> Where is my rights? You can do what I mean, if you guys want to stand there and record each other, that's fine.

[00:12:39]>> Yeah, he's he's recording you right now.

[00:12:41]>> be on his phone. Okay, that Unfortunately there's not Unfortunately there's not What he's doing is not against the law. Well, where's my rights?

[00:12:48]You are You are Your rights but What I'm What I'm explaining to you is no rights are being violated. What he's doing is perfectly legal. But I don't know what he's going to do with my stuff after he Okay, well I'm just like I'm like I'm explaining to you there's nothing that he's doing that's illegal.

[00:13:00]So, I'm not even going to have a conversation with him to tell him to stop.

[00:13:03]Okay, cuz he's not doing anything wrong.

[00:13:05]I know that's frustrating. I know that might be irritating. But what he's But he But what he's >> You're right, it is.

[00:13:11]But it You're right, it is but it's not against the law for him to be doing what he's doing.

[00:13:15]So, my suggestion would be to just continue on your way.

[00:13:21]I have no rights in this No, you don't.

[00:13:24]Unfortunately, no.

[00:13:25]He's well within He's well within his rights to record on public on public property. So, where is my And I can understand that if I give him permission, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But when I ask him politely not to put me on his camera and he keeps doing it, I just I feel like I'm being violated.

[00:13:39]>> Isn't he trespassing?

[00:13:41]If this is public property, he's allowed to be here. Can we charge him with trespassing? If If he's on public property, he can be here.

[00:13:48]This is government property.

[00:13:50]I I don't know what the property boundaries are.

[00:13:53]So >> Okay, well, we'd like to get him for trespassing. He's He's harassing our customers, obviously. Okay.

[00:13:58]Essentially, the boundaries are everything out here is traditional public forum. We're allowed to film.

[00:14:02]We're allowed to film.

[00:14:03]We're allowed to protest inside.

[00:14:07]Well, can You want to explain it?

[00:14:08]>> He's He's not doing anything illegal.

[00:14:10]Well, he's trespassing on the post office. We'd like to charge him with that.

[00:14:13]Okay. Thank you, officer. Cuz he's harassing our customers. Okay.

[00:14:16]Yeah. Yeah.

[00:14:19]Okay.

[00:14:20]I I appreciate you. Yeah, I Listen, man, I I know what you're doing is legal, right? I'm not I'm not here to bust on you or get on your case or anything, right?

[00:14:26]>> 100%.

[00:14:28]I think it would just be fair Could you Would you agree that it would be fair if somebody says to stop to stop? I mean I I don't That's not where I draw the line. I just I come out here, I film. If people come by and they if they get upset and they want to hang around and hang out with me and get filmed and that's all on them, you know? But I do I do extremely appreciate your professionalism. And and if you do want to tell them where the line is, they have they have the ability to trespass us from inside. Yes.

[00:14:54]Okay. I That's my card, man. Awesome. If you ever want to reach out and just sit chat, I'd love to do that at some point.

[00:14:59]>> Okay. This is Lieutenant Bill Kirkland.

[00:15:02]>> I go by Bill. I I appreciate you, Bill, and I think everyone else will appreciate you, too. All right, have a good day. You, too. Appreciate it.

[00:15:11]Hello, sir.

[00:15:13]ordering a proper without a business license required. And recording on property is also required.

[00:15:19]That is is always the issue with that parking lot. I tried to tell him that.

[00:15:22]He was pretending like if I couldn't smoke a lot of him that it's not allowed. They're absolutely lost.

[00:15:26]They're supposed to be inside.

[00:15:28]And he's also turning away business and harassing the customers which is a separate series of crimes. He's not allowed to do any of that.

[00:15:34]What do we do in these circumstances?

[00:15:37]Besides call the police. Yeah.

[00:15:39]Cuz we can't enforce the law. Like I can't. Sure. Um the My my suggestion right now um is that just let him do this thing. Let him do his thing.

[00:15:50]>> right now. But it is against the law.

[00:15:51]Like that's posted. Like it's on his property. Like it's not I To be honest with you To be honest with you I need I I got I got to go back and look at like what the actual definitions and the the lines are because I don't I will be 100% honest I don't know. Do you want to come inside and >> he's inside the building for sure, right? If he's inside the building then yes we can trespass him. But outside on here that's that's separate.

[00:16:13]>> Okay. Okay. Well, let me go back and do some research and I'll come back, okay?

[00:16:17]But it's also posted inside if you want to have a look at it. All the relevant statutes which are posted. Okay. I appreciate it.

[00:16:24]It basically says we can record inside with without any permission uh with on news purposes and that applies to inside.

[00:16:31]That's inside. Outside is a full public forum.

[00:16:34]Fully allowed to record in a public space.

[00:16:36]>> That's the problem here.

[00:16:36]>> And the inside is the problem. You're ignorant of the law. I'm No. You're what?

[00:16:41]It literally says on the poster seven.

[00:16:43]What started as a series of emotional outbursts ended with a professional dialogue and a mutual respect for the law.

[00:16:50]It's fascinating to see the contrast.

[00:16:52]While some citizens choose to act out and waste public resources, others, like the officers we met today, are willing to listen and learn.

[00:17:00]It proves that transparency isn't a threat. It's a necessity. If you support exposing the friction between public entitlement and civil rights, hit that subscribe button. I'm Public Friction.

[00:17:09]Remember, rights not exercised are rights lost. I'll see you on the next one.