SFR: Mobile Suit Gundam: Thunderbolt (December Sky) REACTION!

Added: 2026-05-22

[00:00:04]Probably the worst thing for him to do right there was that >> why >> he's panicking. His heart rate's accelerating. He's pushing out all the um the pain relief stuff that he's been put into it.

[00:00:16]>> So that scream is going to turn from panic into actual [ __ ] pain.

[00:00:21]>> Hey everybody, welcome back to another Stoneface reactions. I'm Theta. This is Lessons and we are back for the Gundam Thunderbolt movies. And today we're going to be doing December Sky and finding out if there's actually anything to it or if we're just going to be watching the same thing. You know, it's probably no matter what. No matter what, it's probably going to be the same thing.

[00:00:47]And if there's any hope of there not being something different, it's going to be in the second one. Bandit whatever bandit flower or whatever it is. As we just previously discussed with the Macros Delta, well uh obviously going into this uh I have brought notes in a board lessons had a power outage. So there's not going to be anything coming from his side other than reflective thoughts, you know, whatever.

[00:01:13]So let's go ahead.

[00:01:14]>> I mean lit literally was ah I'm going to make some notes.

[00:01:18][Music] >> And that's why he's got this notepad with paper.

[00:01:26]Maybe be a little funny gag. You pull it up and it just like all scribble like well I was writing in the dark.

[00:01:36]All right. Well, uh let's go to the board because there's a board change log uh where I have added uh Janice, Kate, Orf, uh Dent, Marcus, Chowing, Pedro, um and that other guy, the cult leader.

[00:01:52]Uh, for the first time ever on any board I've ever done, I've added a blue arrow on a purple line between Daryl and Carla. Um, I connect Well, go ahead, ask your question.

[00:02:05]>> Can it be the other way around?

[00:02:07]>> Which way is that?

[00:02:09]>> No, I think I'm right on I am zoomed out a bit. I think it's correct based on what I'm looking at and what I remember.

[00:02:17]>> She considers him her dad.

[00:02:19]>> So, the blue arrow is pointed at him.

[00:02:21]Otherwise, it's just a generic purple line because >> there ultimately has to be a background for the arrow. Like, obviously, it should be purple towards her, uh, blue towards him, but what would I put that on? I'm a green line with two arrows, so I just kept it purple as it was.

[00:02:39]Conceivably, she loves her dad.

[00:02:42]>> Yeah.

[00:02:43]>> Uh, I connected Dorf, uh, Dent and Marcus together with a green line, then connected them to the Spartan line.

[00:02:51]Uh, I tied in Janice and Kate to the Xeon team green line.

[00:02:56]I uh brought Claudia back to life as is my power.

[00:03:01]I connected Pedro to the Xeon line with a green line. I connected Claudia, Ciao, JJ, and Levven together with a green line. I changed JJ's green lines to Zeon and Carla to white.

[00:03:17]And I connected Monica to Levan with a white line.

[00:03:22]>> Reverend character's name is Xiaoming. Okay. I mean, I'm not saying that you're wrong.

[00:03:28]I'm just looked at it like, ah, yeah.

[00:03:32]>> What would the indication that I'm wrong be?

[00:03:36]>> No, I'm just saying that Xiaoming. It's It's just seems kind of silly. Not like we're picking, you know, um, names from a from a a Chinese restaurant menu.

[00:03:48]>> Also, I would say >> I wouldn't spell it that way.

[00:03:51]>> I would say say Q I AO if I was going to say Xiao >> cuz I'm watching a lot of D uh Dongwa these days and I have seen Xiao spelled so many different ways and that is the one that's simplest to me to read. So I would pick Xiao some say link click the best friend character or best friend the female friend character >> also I don't know if purple and green lines uh from reverend >> you're reading their title as if it's their name >> reverend is their title she she's called reverend by the other people around her the same way Xiaoming is called reverend >> same way that Lean is called higher Well, it seems like to me you're trying to read that as it's our names or something.

[00:04:42]Also, she's like, "No, don't do it to him." So, she still clearly remembers who he is and doesn't want him to come in any harm. So, I don't have any anything to suggest that she's still not in love with him.

[00:04:54]>> Oh, she is under mind control. So, that >> she's not >> is a thing.

[00:04:58]>> She's not.

[00:04:59]>> She's not. She made the conscious choice to do what she's doing.

[00:05:03]>> Seems to me that she was under mind control last. I mean, you could make the ar No, I would argue that's not well, it's not my interpretation. Obviously, that we often come to different interpretations of what's happening. Um, I say you could make the argument of that anyone who falls into a cult, you could say, is being mind control, but it's not like mross mind control.

[00:05:26]>> It seemed to hint that he was uh someone who actually literally had the power of mind control. Um, I disagree from the con from the conceit of actual mind control. Maybe he has the power of suggestion.

[00:05:42]I don't think he has the power of mind control. Well, suggestion still allows you a bit of wiggle room in the realm of free will.

[00:05:50]I suggest that you do this and you have a strong compulsion to do so. But if you were stronger willed, you could eek your way out of it, you know, like Freya in um the roid thing from across Delta.

[00:06:02]I do not believe that Lean is directly mind controlling an entire cult of people from across the world cuz remember we see him like a whole like legion lineup of people he's standing in front of. And it's like if you're going to claim that somebody with like new type powers was like organizing a whole thing like that. And I'm like maybe possibly. But we're now like across the world from this guy across the world.

[00:06:26]But like we're over the horizon from this guy and we're going to claim that he's like mind controlling a thousand people at once to do everything he needs them to do up to killing themselves.

[00:06:37]>> I mean my controls I'm not talking about puppeteering like he's literally controlling them but he is.

[00:06:42]>> That was I was countering you. That's what I was counting. I was saying it's not >> mind control. I think it's a little more mind control is I think a little more expansive just direct control.

[00:06:52]>> I am saying that I don't think it's mind control. I think it's closer to like what a cult would do. Like you know when you try to rig somebody out of a cult what you would what you would tell them.

[00:07:02]>> I think that's what's going on is like whatever happened to her I got notes about. So, I don't really want to get into that right now, but whatever happened to her, I think she fell into that a cult essentially the same way that Monica would went from calling it like a national uh polity to a cult.

[00:07:25]But then again, that was misdirection on her part because, as we learned at the last episode, she [ __ ] knows what's going on.

[00:07:31]But either way, she uh I believe Claudia is working under her own uh power.

[00:07:37]She's not like, "Oh no, I've got this thing telling me I have to do this." She is actively in control of her own actions.

[00:07:46]>> I guess also not for nothing. And Leven's own backstory, he didn't have the power the whole time and he had people following him.

[00:07:53]>> I mean, he was a scientist.

[00:07:55]>> No, no, no. Um, Levan had uh brain damage and then JJ uh did work on him and then or I guess JJ or Monica depending on which one. Um, and that awakened his power, but he still had a following.

[00:08:11]>> Yeah, but originally he was the scientist that was the lead of the project.

[00:08:15]>> No, that was a misconception that we had during the episode.

[00:08:19]>> Oh, so someone else. Okay.

[00:08:21]>> Yeah. No, Lean is his own guy. JJ is his own guy. Yeah, that was just an unfortunate bit of us not paying close enough attention to what was being said.

[00:08:30]I guess making jokes at one another. I don't know.

[00:08:34]That's why there's a picture of Leven on the board and JJ is connected to it cuz there's also uh an image in the episode of JJ as a member of the cult. I think JJ has hair still.

[00:08:48]Well, in that case, back to my original point, then if she is actively member of the cult, then I think at least would be white lines and nothing else. Um, because >> they're again, it's in the indication opposition. They're they're clearly in opposition. So, >> they're on opposite sides. Doesn't mean they're enemies.

[00:09:09]I would also remind you that it is the [ __ ] captain of the Spartan that initiates the fight. She wasn't there to fight them. They just happened to be on the side that the fight started with.

[00:09:23]For all we know, her intent was finding out they're still alive and be like, "Hey, come on down to the South Sea Alliance." Like, she's not an enemy. You're not. Again, if Civil War started like right now, I'm not an automatic enemy of every all my family members up north just because they're living on the other side. Hell, even if they said even if for some godforsaken reason I was siding with the South, which I wouldn't, by the way, and they were like, "Ah, no, we're all northern all the way. They're still my [ __ ] family."

[00:09:58]Yeah. Sometimes my words, they really hurt.

[00:10:00]>> I would disagree to a certain extent.

[00:10:04]Um, but yeah.

[00:10:05]>> Well, this isn't hypothetical on me. I'm basing it off of what I saw in the show.

[00:10:10]Like I feel like you're only basing it on the concept that or the conceit rather that she's on the opposite side and is an active participant in whatever's going on. Um you're seem to be basing it on that uh conceit whereas I'm basing it off of her emotional reaction to uh IO opening the cockpit, you know, and reaching out for her with the Gundam hand and her begging them to not do anything to him.

[00:10:37]It seems to imply to me that she still has that same connection even though she's been away.

[00:10:42]>> Those those are my comments on the that's that's all I got to say about that.

[00:10:47]>> Well, I have very few notes like I said about uh the last couple episodes. I was really hoping that you were going to come with notes. Well, like every time I mean Yeah. Yeah, >> but you know I'm just saying like every time this ever comes up, every time that I have less notes than I would have liked to have written, I'm usually of the mind of oh well lessons will fill in. He'll have the thoughts that I wasn't having and those are always always the times something happens and you don't have notes.

[00:11:17]All right, so my notes.

[00:11:20]I guess Carla's dad never got released as I would suspect that they would try and bring him in on their gambit to rehabilitate her if they were able to do so. Daryl acting as a standin would have to be the second best option and one that I can't uh see not tearing Daryl up inside. At the very least, it's not an Amoro's dad situation. She's regressed out of trauma and they think that they can work her back from it. No telling where this base is. Sorry, this note just jumps. No telling where this base is considering it has a flower field in an Italian villa set up specifically to fool Carla into believing she's living a normal life with her dad. And we later see that it's an underwater subbase. So the entire outdoors scene was entirely fake.

[00:12:11]>> Yes. Now remember that uh Seion has become a republic and these folks are still fighting the war. So they even if her dad was released, they might not have the ability. Get that government to release them into their custody so they could do this. They seem to be doing this on their own accord. In fact, allying themselves with the South. Well, not allying themselves with the South. We thought they were aligning themselves with uh um sea alliance, but it turns out that wasn't really the case. Uh so >> I think the implication is that the South Sea Alliance has uh integrated itself within both other groups. So it wasn't so much that the Xeon people were allied with them, it's that their commander was a member of the South Sea Alliance.

[00:12:58]>> Yeah.

[00:12:58]>> Um also, just because they became a republic doesn't mean that they became good.

[00:13:04]No, but it doesn't it does mean that they may have their own agenda and they're like, "You're no longer a part of what we're doing. We're doing our own thing. Why should we give you one of our prisoners or a former prisoner?"

[00:13:14]>> Oh, no. I thought you were like I would say to the dad, "Why would we give you one of our cells? Get out of here."

[00:13:21]>> Like again, the fact that they became a republic doesn't mean that they're still not the same exact thing, just under a new name. Uh I know the Republic seems to indicate that they're a different form of government. Who the hell knows if that's not even a front? You know, if the zombies were still around, they could say, "Oh, we're Republic." And then just strongarm the entire government the way that they want to do.

[00:13:41]Uh, we have no indication one way or the other what the [ __ ] going on over there. But my point being that they seem to have [ __ ] resources. That that sub was [ __ ] massive and it looked tiny next to the base it was coming out of, which again has this whole >> the whole countryside. They have enough room in there to fake a countryside.

[00:14:05]I don't know. It just seems to me that if they wanted this bad enough, they would launch an operation >> to get the dad from Monzo. Not like asking like it seems like you're indicating that they would. I mean, like the same way that we got Revel out of the location there.

[00:14:20]>> Yeah.

[00:14:21]>> And my indication seems to be >> he may not have survived uh incarceration. He seems to be an older man >> if he was even incarcerated in the first place.

[00:14:30]>> Yeah. Yeah. Going to be just ex executed. They told her that they had a >> Then um my thing from last time was that they both might have been told the same thing.

[00:14:38]>> But the the uh daughter is get told the dad is locked up and she gets sent off on her mission of Thunderbolt and the dad says, "Oh, we've got your daughter.

[00:14:47]You better do what we say or we'll, you know, do the same thing to her." And then he gets sent off to some front line somewhere. I mean, if we're using kids, we're probably using old men. Here we go.

[00:14:57]>> Uh, just another note about how confusing it is to try and identify Zeon ranks based on the common uniform markings. Daryl has the collar tabs of an enen but wears the emblem of a lower rank uh, chief petty officer and below.

[00:15:12]Uh, but then you see Ness who has the correct emblem and color tabs to identify himself as a chief petty officer. Though I will say the color tabs are difficult to spot due to an oddity in the animation.

[00:15:25]The first time we see Fisher Ness in episode 7, his tab looks like a corpals.

[00:15:30]But as he turns to address ter uh Daryl, two pips just kind of morph into the tab showing his correct rank. Like um have you ever played a game where you've seen something just at the edge of rendering distance? So it kind of like pops in bits and parts. For some reason that happens with his collar tabs.

[00:15:51]>> Like >> be literally a rendering as it's an area.

[00:15:54]>> Yeah. As he turns, one of them appears and then vanishes and then as it comes closer to the camera, two pips pop out.

[00:16:00]It's like, "Oh, okay. Well, that's Chief Petty Officer Rank." Uh the two lines um merging into like a wing shape and then the two uh dots above it. But the fact is that they don't seem to ever get the emblems right or the emblems are just kind of like interpretation mode because I was like watching the scene where Daryl is talking to uh the scientist lady about uh Carlos whole situation and then the guy in uh talking to her. I was like I think that guy has the uh the stuff to you know the tab and the the emblem to be a corporal. I can't tell.

[00:16:38]And because the the element is the the emblems, the more artsy they get or the more high quality the animation gets, the more loose they get with what the emblems are supposed to look like. Cuz these guys have like the one wing and then it goes down to nothing, which is chief petty officer below. But I swear he had the tabs of a higher officer rank. So it's like really trying to read into this. By the way, clearly not going to matter anymore whatsoever.

[00:17:06]>> There is no Z. This is I assume that the Zeon Republic is going to get rid of this whole uniform. Drop it like the Nazi uniform. You don't want to move into future negotiations and relations with the look of the repressive old regime.

[00:17:24]>> Yeah, >> I know we were joking about why Carla still had her hair, but even though it seems like uh the majority of Sorry, Carla.

[00:17:34]>> Oh, no. You're not talking about Carla.

[00:17:36]You're talking. I'm talking up here.

[00:17:38]Claudia.

[00:17:39]>> Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes I write these notes late. I know we were joking about why Claudia still had her hair, but even though it seems like the majority of South Sea Alliance members have shaved heads, a lot of them kept their hair. Apparently, as per the first scene of them in episode 7, I guess it's either a choice, a tenant of the religion that's optional or a show of your dedication. I think it's it could be show dedication and also how well no she's called a reverend so she is seems to be pretty high up so it wouldn't be a ranking thing.

[00:18:12]>> Yeahing dedication >> I think it's dedication to the you know outward showing her dedication as opposed to you know her rank within the organization.

[00:18:26]How did Claudia go from shot and drifting away from an exploding ship in space to a commander of the South Sea Alliance?

[00:18:38]Again, the movies are going to have to do some heavy work here. Otherwise, I'm going to be really unhappy. Like, this is I'll wait till I'm done with the the notes. I might have a note about this before I get into it on my own.

[00:18:52]Captain Pike is fairly belligerent. I recognize that the EFF represents the entirety of the Earth military, especially after the war ended. But knowing ahead of time that the SSA is pushing for independence, and upon encountering an armed resistance to your presence in their territory, essentially treating them the same way that Zeon was treated before the war feels like lessons didn't get learned at all.

[00:19:16]>> Probably uh I mean, we won the last war.

[00:19:20]Whatever we're doing works. I'm not condoning it. I'm saying that that attitude can also if the idea is that you're cult like yeah know these people are not a nation they're a goddamn cult right they don't deserve my respect besides you're getting my you get in the way of my actual take on the enemy they might seem like they're aiding and evading the enemy their enemy so I'm not saying he's right I just need to understand where he's come >> I think the concern is that the religion and the country are one and the same because you don't you don't try to achieve independence if you could be anywhere.

[00:19:59]It really feels like Thunderbolt is an unfinished narrative. Assuming that the movies don't add a solid ending for us, there really isn't a resolution to the character arcs that we've been following. Hell, the two mains don't even encounter each other again in the second half. The only thing that happens there is the crossover information that would be relatively meaningless to them, but tells us and the audience everything we need to know about the current events. The next thing we watch is going to be years after this. So, that information is left unhelpful to this story's resolution. I guess it sets up what Char was talking about at the end of OG Gundam, a world of new types. We got the cult. We got Billy talking about it. It seems to be the main thing postwar beyond independence and Zeant rebels.

[00:20:48]>> Yeah. Agree.

[00:20:51]>> That's that's the thing I was talking about before thing. I had a note about that. This is >> this feels like nine episodes into a 12 episode show.

[00:21:00]>> Yeah, that ending was seemed very I mean I already talked about Well, I guess I do have something to say. I will repeat myself. Uh, I talked about how Thunderbolt felt like two different stories. Like once you had that big battle between the two fleets in Thunderbolt sector, that basically should have been it. But then they stretched it to then go to this other story with the Southeast Alliance and Earth and postwar and it's like and things getting weird with Carla being regressed and it's like what the hell is going on and possible mind control. though disagree on how much if any you know and cults and whatnot. It's like if that both stories are good stories. I like both of these stories but I would have been happy either with one or the other but they get matched together and I'm like >> well I don't have a problem with it being two stories. I mean my problem is that the second story is not finished.

[00:21:58]>> Yeah. But if it would it would have been cool just to have like old war stories and maybe flashbacks to them. Oh, how do we got here? Like I episode where they flash back to the Thunderbolts and oh, these are the characters there. You don't need like three or four episodes to have a battle that ultimately the only thing that really establishes the connection between the characters and that's it. You could have done that in an episode. If you think about it, Thunderbolt sector doesn't add to anything other than oh this scientist and their techn.

[00:22:31]Well, I mean, that's why I said before that this whole thing was pointless.

[00:22:35]>> The Xeon won the sector but lost the war, so they got nothing out of it. The people who died fighting for the Thunderbolt sector didn't get anything out of it either because the Thunderbolt sector is uninhabitable right now.

[00:22:47]>> Yeah. I mean, if that had been the story about, hey, how, you know, how useless this war was and, you know, whether it's a main characters in one area or these characters in another, they're still fighting for stuff that, you know, uh, kind of eag situation where we get u an insight at other people and how desperate CN was, including experimenting on people to, you know, literally cut their limbs off so they could become better, you know, better interfaces with their machines. That's a cool story, bro. But then there's also another cool story that really doesn't have anything to do with that, which is the post-war, you know, problems with the alliance of, you know, parts of the alliance breaking off and the alliance apparently not learning the lesson postwar period, right?

[00:23:31]That's also a cool story, but they don't aside from again maybe maybe an episode of like, oh, this is what happened before. Okay, cool. Well, let's move on to this story and have that be the full story including whatever whoever wins or loses whatever then that would have been it. You know, >> maybe they could only get the stuff made. Maybe they could only get it made if they had a certain episode count >> and like we only have enough to tell this and >> well cuz the thing is is like say we finished um >> um >> MS Igloo 2, right? And it's ends with uh >> I want to keep on to say Mustang.

[00:24:10]>> Uh what's her name?

[00:24:12]>> Cadillac.

[00:24:12]>> Yeah. Cadillac cars. Um Cadillac.

[00:24:16]>> There's a Mustang.

[00:24:17]>> Cadillac and Oliver, you know, going off to the end of the war, right? Um that's one resolution, right? It's not that we have to see everything that the characters ever do. We know that the war is ending. we know that's going to be the major end to their story line, whatnot. This has no major end resolution point because we go from a fight to, hey, these are what these people actually are and then just seeing her standing in a crowd. It's like that doesn't resolve anything.

[00:24:50]>> Yeah.

[00:24:50]>> Yeah. Because I think to achieve resolution, we have to know that the characters are at least satisfied with where they've gotten to or have acknowledged that this is some sort of end point to their own the arc of their own story. Right?

[00:25:04]>> When Amo and Gang are looking back at the defeat of [ __ ] right? They recognize this is the end of a chapter of our lives. Obviously, it's not the end of their story. They got everything ahead of them. Most of them are children. But this is the end of a major chapter, right? Like the end of um All Quiet on the Western Front. Like it's a end of a chapter of our lives. This felt like the start of a story. We've identified Claudia. She's part of a cult. We got to get her back. That is the start of a story that is never going to get told because we're eight years after and nothing else has come out.

[00:25:48]Like maybe I'm getting all angry and [ __ ] about something. It doesn't matter because the movie is going to do it, but I don't suspect that it will.

[00:25:55]>> I mean, I heard about starting media rest, but this is like media restit like oh big bad reveal turns to the camera.

[00:26:04]>> Like what the >> You know what this is?

[00:26:06]>> Did you ever watch High School of the Dead?

[00:26:09]>> No, I heard about it, but no, I haven't.

[00:26:11]>> High School of the Dead. The uh the the um not the artist technically his artist friend is still around. the guy who was writing it and doing everything died.

[00:26:21]>> So, High School of the Dead just dead ends because his artist friend didn't want to continue it without him. So, the story is over.

[00:26:29]>> Um, but the characters just stop, you know, there's no resolution. Well, because yeah, the it literally is like, okay, we're in the story where the guy who made guns is now like in a mall doing some stuff and then that's it. No resolution story. Uh, Durk Gentley. The final novel for Durk Gentley is Dirk is forever now trapped on the side of the road talking about a wild rhino that got loose in someone's pool party to some trucker guy because that's where Douglas Adams stopped when he was riding it before he died forever. Dirk Gentley is just on stuck on the side of the road now.

[00:27:08]>> Yeah, >> this feels like that. I would I would watch this and wonder, "Oh my god, I hope the guy's okay." Because I would assume that people make it something bad happen.

[00:27:18]>> Yeah.

[00:27:18]>> Then my my secondary problem is that everyone hypes this up as being so amazing. It's like yeah maybe the first half but questions left unanswered. This is this falls into the category of show starts good gets bad.

[00:27:32]>> It gets bad because well to me because of the whole two stories matched up and also the manga has continued when it doing its own thing. So there's more story to it. I guess in a manga form in in a manga form it makes sense because you know you got many stories ahead, right? But here it's like in an OVA format when you focus on something, you know, either you do one or the other, you got your six episodes, you locked in, boom, we got this, right? Because if it started with the South thing from the very beginning, then maybe we had some final battle or something or rescue or final betrayal or something happens other than villain reveal.

[00:28:12]>> Well, my problem there is the same thing you talk about when people are watching Marvel movies, right? Oh, you're not a comic reader.

[00:28:18]>> Well, for people who aren't reading manga, this is it, >> right? And it's like that's what I talked about when we finished the uh the episode last time. I was like, "Is this supposed to get people into the manga?"

[00:28:29]And it's like, "I don't think so. You would This is a lot to do for the manga." Like, "Tray had like two one two episodes and that was it."

[00:28:41]>> To be fair, they said a stray was supposed to get like a whole season of stuff and they just didn't have it.

[00:28:48]>> Little bit of irony though, bringing up Marvel. Yesterday I was one watch re-watching these episodes to take my notes uh for today. I was also editing our last uh reactions to Thunderbolt.

[00:29:00]And in all that I managed to squeeze in enough time to watch the Thunderbolts movie from Marvel. So got that done too.

[00:29:07]I had a whole Thunderbolt day yesterday.

[00:29:11]>> Day of Thunderbolts.

[00:29:13]>> Now my last note here. How the hell did I survive? He got hit by an electrified whip that wrapped around his open cockpit. The cord was wrapped over the door of the cockpit. He was not insulated to the shock. He effectively took a hit designed to incapacitate mobile suits and wasn't even knocked out by it.

[00:29:34]>> I mean, I got nothing for that to be perfectly honest. I could try to say, "Oh, he was Well, he was on the ground. He was there." That doesn't matter.

[00:29:43]>> He wasn't He was in space.

[00:29:45]>> Yeah.

[00:29:47]cuz it's right after he opens the cockpit to look down at Claudia like it's me it's a what are you doing and that's when she's like to the the purple lines she's like no don't do anything to him and then the line goes around it electricity she has open cockpit still the cord goes right over the front of the open cockpit implying that if there was >> they were in the air not in space but yeah >> whatever I talked about floor about indiscriminate backgrounds make it hard to tell what's going on and where things are happening. The first thing that the South Sea Alliance do is they shoot a giant cloud out so that we don't have to draw backgrounds anymore and not for nothing made it look like space. That cloud shouldn't work as well on atmosphere. By the way, they work well in space because it takes a while for the particulates to spread out. But well, actually, no. It should work in space because it's much easier for the particulates to spread out. Uh that's why you don't see smoke trails in space from missiles because the the exhaust goes all places and it doesn't, you know, you see it in anime all the time, but you shouldn't see it. You should see like the the puff immediate afterwards.

[00:30:57]But yeah, also there's no atmosphere for the missile to cut through and have a contrail either. So, >> uh my problem here is that my same problem I have when I watch other reactors try to explain science is that often times I'll be watching I'm like, "That's wrong. What the [ __ ] are you talking about? My conceit here is that I don't have enough onhand information in my own head to to even try to discuss.

[00:31:20]I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying that I don't have any thoughts in my head to >> to weigh in with.

[00:31:26]>> I also want one thing is I mean it's a cool concept. I like the >> gas seen before. I've already seen it in other Gundam literally.

[00:31:34]>> Yeah.

[00:31:34]>> Other Gundam are probably going to watch again here on the channel.

[00:31:37]>> Yeah.

[00:31:39]Uh but yeah.

[00:31:41]>> All right. Well, I guess that's everything then, unless you have any off-the cuff remarks you want to make.

[00:31:47]>> I probably said everything I was going to say answering your stuff. So, >> all right. Well, that said, then let's go ahead and hop on in and see what we get from December Skies.

[00:31:58]December Sky. Yeah.

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[00:32:30]>> Meanwhile, a Jana 7.

[00:32:35]Yeah, the big block of ice with the school boss, which had a whole discussion about the school boss and everything else.

[00:32:45]Let's see if this is going to be just a compilation film with some added scenes.

[00:32:52]They have said there was some added scenes and animation, but about an hour and 9 minutes. The first four episodes of December Sky were like 18 minutes a piece.

[00:33:04]>> Yeah.

[00:33:07]the 48 52 minutes >> about 17 minutes of extra content possibly.

[00:33:14]>> Yeah.

[00:33:16]>> Or it's the first five episodes >> with a little cut out. A very very little bit cut out.

[00:33:26]>> The fight is literally the same thing including the smoke room and these two kissing before he dies.

[00:33:33]Well, yeah, but to be fair, we're like right into it. Like, it's very reliant.

[00:33:43]The gyms, I know they're GMs, but I I'm now stuck with the uh the way they said it in um what's um Rick for Vengeance.

[00:33:54]>> Oh, I thought you were going to say that one video game.

[00:34:01][Music] I wish you would wear headphones so the rest of us don't have to hear this.

[00:34:07]>> I love it.

[00:34:08]>> I don't think you do.

[00:34:10]>> I'm not saying you don't enjoy it. I also don't think you love it.

[00:34:14]>> I love the combination of the music and the the action in this show. I don't know. Maybe by itself I wouldn't necessarily go out of my way to listen it, but as a background for the show, I love it.

[00:34:24]>> I would argue that if you don't if you would loved it, you would go out of your way to watch it. Again, I'm not arguing you don't enjoy it. I you can enjoy it. I'm just saying that like I love Macros 7 soundtrack. I go out of my way to listen to Light the Light in, you know, Seven Street and whatnot.

[00:34:53]I would also argue that this guy could close his eyes, fly straight through the thunderbolt sector, and the same noises would be made by everything impacting his GM.

[00:35:08]>> Maybe I should get a soundtrack to this and listen to it. That'll teach me.

[00:35:13]>> Oh, I don't care if you don't like it.

[00:35:14]I'll be for my own self.

[00:35:16]>> Uhhuh. I'm sure that not once would you ever put it up on stream. Haha. See, I bought it.

[00:35:24]>> I'm I'm petty, but not that petty.

[00:35:27]>> You are Tom Petty.

[00:35:30]>> I wish the guy the man had talent.

[00:35:33]>> You wish. I was like, he's dead. You know that, right?

[00:35:36]>> You want to be dead?

[00:35:42]You want to act in the postman van? Is that your goal?

[00:35:48]You're famous. No, man. You're famous.

[00:35:52]Top not for Tom.

[00:35:55][Music] One thing you say about him, he don't back down.

[00:36:07]>> Yeah.

[00:36:09]See my first comment that I made about that in the first episode.

[00:36:16]Uh, the magic lightning. Yeah. Oh, sucks to be him.

[00:36:20]>> See, that made sense. He was going at like top speed into it unlike, I don't know, icebergs in the future.

[00:36:30][Music] [Music] you apparently.

[00:36:41]>> Although, yeah, we know about the core fighter, but still.

[00:36:45]>> Well, I mean, to be fair, it was also before we ever knew if he was going to be the main character or not.

[00:36:50]>> Yeah.

[00:36:53]>> In the first episode, could have been a fake out. One of these other guys could have been the main character.

[00:37:05]Then don't stand together so closely, you idiots. It doesn't matter.

[00:37:10]>> I think the entire other side was new types as per my previous notes about it.

[00:37:17]>> I think Daryl was a new type, which I think gets proven to be true. Uh what's his name over here? Um the guy who's about to get shot in the [ __ ] head. I think he's a new type.

[00:37:29]Little known fact, one of these houses that's floating around here set of uh God, the joke would have been great if I could remember the name of the movie.

[00:37:39]>> Visura Vura. Help me out here. Sequel to Jamanji.

[00:37:44][Music] >> Oh yeah, I don't remember the title of that. I remember Jamai had a Oh.

[00:37:52]>> So, you're in the same boat that I am.

[00:37:54]You You kind of feel with the words.

[00:37:56]Yeah. Yeah.

[00:37:58]That was a cool movie actually.

[00:37:59]>> There was a house floating in space and everything.

[00:38:02]>> Yeah, I know. I know. I know. The whole storyline of the sister falling in love with his >> Yeah, but she wouldn't know, right? She know what he would look like when he's older.

[00:38:13]I >> mean, she it was Christine Stewart who actually played the sister.

[00:38:21]But man, everyone's a [ __ ] new type.

[00:38:23]Really?

[00:38:30]That was the name I was going for.

[00:38:48]>> Honestly, it's mostly on Hoover.

[00:38:50]>> Feel like you should have a little bit more concerned about the fact that your cockpit's opening up without you.

[00:39:04]And the way everyone else is freaking out, you'd think there was like this whole EFF plan, but they're like, "Oh no, all of our cockpits are opening up.

[00:39:23]You remember how we tried to capture a GM in Reququum?

[00:39:27]Yeah, >> they could just capture his core fighter and get all the information off of it because he flew the core fighter over here to Hoover.

[00:39:36]Conceivably, they know where Hoover was located.

[00:39:43]also of memory serves. Requave was made before this.

[00:39:53]>> Yeah.

[00:39:54]>> Wait, no, no, no. I'm wrong.

[00:39:56]>> No, after after.

[00:39:56]>> Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking 2015 and this was 2017, but I think I'm thinking of a different conversation you and I had.

[00:40:04]Also, where's the core fighter? We just saw a zoom out.

[00:40:09]Also, how did Hoover not recognize the core fighter coming?

[00:40:14]He's literally scanning the entire space in front of him for all the GMs that he's shooting at. And this thing literally flew right from in front of him.

[00:40:25]>> I think it went the the whole way around.

[00:40:27]>> No, I said it came from in front of him.

[00:40:29]>> Yeah, >> cuz the thing got shot in front of him.

[00:40:32]So, the core fighter would have flown from all those things he was looking at.

[00:40:41]>> Leon You mean that porn mag?

[00:40:50]>> See that porn? By the way, I don't know if that's actually a porn mag or not.

[00:40:54]That is also like what a cover of a Rolling Stones magazine would look like.

[00:40:58]>> Yeah.

[00:40:59]>> And being like music related conversation, it could be.

[00:41:10]Oh, I don't remember that being said, but that works into the everyone hates Claudia thing.

[00:41:24]Reload.

[00:41:36]Ech.

[00:41:53]Nobody's just standing there. He's just sitting there. I mean, how else were you going to transport him?

[00:42:00]>> You had to secure him. Yeah, but it just feels Maybe you need to tell me what the name of your squadron is before you get all mouthy.

[00:42:20]>> Yeah.

[00:42:27][Music] >> Yeah. the man she was in love with and then apparently that was two episodes and that's it. We're done with him.

[00:42:42]>> I mean, maybe her falling Daryl is like an element of her regression as well.

[00:42:47]Forget about the past and then really forget about the past.

[00:43:06]Just want one of these characters be like, "Why do you always say such like vague [ __ ] You mean the Gundam the Gundam? Don't call the item. Who the hell knows what you're talking about?

[00:43:19]Talking about my drugs. My drugs on that ship.

[00:43:28]Like I said, this thing has been foreshadowed from the beginning. Dude did not like her. Yeah.

[00:43:34]>> Also, I think that's the end of episode one, isn't it?

[00:43:44]Some money. They're paying for the whole thing.

[00:43:58]be dramatic.

[00:44:04]>> Also, I don't think a slap is going to do much in this low gravity.

[00:44:08]>> You'd propel yourself away from the thing that you hit.

[00:44:32]See they said nobody disagrees with him.

[00:44:56]The thing is that they don't really explain how or the elite failed. They just say that they did.

[00:45:03]>> Well, I mean, the war is evidence of how the elite failed.

[00:45:07]>> Yeah, but in this particular colony I'm talking about.

[00:45:10]>> What did they do? Did they not heed warnings of the attack or >> are these just more of the same?

[00:45:17]But what exactly is more of the same in this situation other than the the father shot himself?

[00:45:23]>> The father shot himself because of the failures.

[00:45:26]>> Yeah, but we never told what those failures are.

[00:45:28]>> Just general failures, man. I mean, I feel like what you were asking for is what happened to this uh >> to this colony. Yeah. Colony um side.

[00:45:37]>> Yeah, that's different from what what are the failures? I think the failures are just generic general failures of the elite not paying attention to warnings in front of them >> versus what actually happened. Did they get nuked? Did they Zeon pull a new weapon out? Did they get gassed? Those are specific questions that you're asking.

[00:45:56]>> Yeah, I'm talking about specific questions by why this particular elite of the >> what Zeon did and what uh the Mor Brotherhood failed to do are two different aspects. I feel like >> the elite not paying attention because they think that they're too high and mighty or whatever or the whatever the general consensus is between the halves and have nots is a different argument to what did Zeon do to this colony >> sign I'm not talking about Banshee anyway uh I'm not talking about >> well it's the entire collection of bans or aside it's the whole side they got whatever >> four side four but I'm talking about why they have because if they're resenting the Every apparently have specific resentment toward her and Io because of who they are, right?

[00:46:43]>> Yeah. Because they're rich and apparent what their parents >> Yeah. But what did they do other than Oh, we're rich.

[00:46:48]>> They failed them.

[00:46:50]>> How? I don't [ __ ] care.

[00:46:54]>> Clearly the signs are all [ __ ] up and they didn't protect them. So clearly they failed. Like I don't understand.

[00:47:01]You're asking like for specifics and I don't think the specifics matter.

[00:47:05]>> One thing you don't live there. It's not your thing.

[00:47:09]>> I think they would know what would why.

[00:47:11]>> Yeah, I'm sure that they actually do know.

[00:47:14]>> But you know, you don't talk about the very specifics of every particular thing that's wrong with your daily life with the people who are also experiencing it all the time.

[00:47:22]>> God, you remember how Yeah, man. It happened like last week.

[00:47:28]Stop telling me about it. I don't want to [ __ ] hear it.

[00:47:35]Ah, yeah. This was either the end of one episode or the start of the other episode.

[00:47:43]>> Lost the other arm, other leg.

[00:47:55]And now the the rest of you I mean, it started below the head because you saw it go down and then it trails up to the camera.

[00:48:20]Captain Hook.

[00:48:22]I think >> he's like Bosch him or something like that.

[00:48:29]>> I appreciate they say this is the thing we're least equipped to do anything against.

[00:48:35]>> Yeah, I'm sure the most powerful weapon is always the least the one at least equipped to deal with.

[00:48:42]It's like you're tracking through your your kitchen with a butter knife and someone pulls out a gun. [ __ ] The thing I was least equipped to deal with.

[00:48:50]>> Yeah. I left my body armor in my bedroom. [ __ ] >> Bullets. My one weakness.

[00:48:56]>> Yeah.

[00:49:10]>> It's not like the colony was ever going to be rebuilt like that. So, >> I mean, the plants are still green.

[00:49:18]Like >> I don't know if that implies that there's still like >> small amounts of atmosphere still in there.

[00:49:24]>> There was that one scene. I don't remember it's happened yet, but I pointed it out >> where they were are doing this fight in the middle of the colonies like fire, right? Atmosphere.

[00:49:33]>> But um the the suction >> Well, that could be even worse from the past. Yeah.

[00:49:39]>> No, no. I just wanted to see it real quick. Um that that purple that pink stuff rather that we saw like in OG Gundam that seals up the holes >> that was still floating around in the colony.

[00:49:50]>> Yeah. But still the colony has huge holes in it. So you know >> Yeah. I mean it doesn't automatically mean that it's all been stocked up.

[00:49:56]There might be um what would you call not firewalls?

[00:50:00]>> There might be sections of colonies designed to hold in atmosphere in case of like an emergency massive emergency situation.

[00:50:09]Cuz again, not for nothing, fires imply that there's oxygen or at least some form of burnable material.

[00:50:26]Thank we all plucked our eyes out.

[00:50:30]Perfect situation to become background actors.

[00:50:36]Someone's probably made an anime or a cartoon about that.

[00:50:40]>> Yeah.

[00:50:41]>> People in the background who are lacking physical features having their own show.

[00:50:49]>> I don't know, man. I take my hat off and it's all Shadow. I got nothing.

[00:50:56]>> I mean, Dora had an aspect of that. You know, all the people in Shadow that were not part of the main gangs, right?

[00:51:02]>> Yeah. But they actually become people.

[00:51:05]>> Yeah, some of them.

[00:51:11]>> Hell, apparently some of them are main characters from another show, Bakano.

[00:51:22]>> Both of these people became cultists.

[00:51:26]>> Oh, Carlo didn't become a cultist.

[00:51:29]>> Sorry. One of these guys became a cultist. Yeah, >> my previous note was still throwing me off. The thing about um where I wrote down Carla and it was Claudia.

[00:51:40]>> Not for nothing. Those are two relatively similar type names. No, fair enough. Yeah, >> I remember I also tried pausing on that screen to see what the experiment monitor said. It said nothing, by the It [Music] >> is a shame though cuz Daryl is really a sympathetic character. I find >> I say it's a shame because he so has no resolution.

[00:52:21]Like I said, IO is the villainous hero.

[00:52:24]Daryl is the hero that's a villain.

[00:52:31]>> See, two pips, one line.

[00:52:37][Music] I've slowly mastered the art of defining Zeon rank through appearance just at the end of what I know will be valuable.

[00:52:55]feel like being able to study the silhouettes of uh World War II aircraft and then waking up in the modern day.

[00:53:15]Also, does that imply that he could have been better?

[00:53:20]I mean, not really. Not in the Saku though, but in outside of the Saku, I suppose.

[00:53:26]>> Well, you mean outside of the psycho.

[00:53:28]Saku.

[00:53:29]>> Yeah, >> cuz there's really no indication of what is going on there. They just look like pegs to us, but apparently they transmit nerve information.

[00:53:45]>> Yeah, that's us.

[00:53:47]>> Earth Federation Space Forces.

[00:54:08]Don't expect a lot of noise in space.

[00:54:12]Well, we got a pirate radio station. I can remember this whole place is an FCC nightmare.

[00:54:27]Oh man, that's my bike.

[00:54:36]Yeah, that would be my job. I would I would come out here after the war was over and just collect stuff for resale.

[00:54:48]>> I know somebody did. people out there are like, you mean you're robbing a graveyard? I'm like, well, just floating out there. Who's, you know, >> I guess salvage is a thing like a ship thinks and you salvage.

[00:55:04]>> Okay. My probably laws and regulations against like civilian population centers. Like >> if someone like activated a a dirty bomb in New York, you're not allowed to just go in and start looting. It's >> Oh, true.

[00:55:23]>> And we have to think this happened within a year.

[00:55:27]>> Mhm.

[00:55:28]>> Like you say, I think the responsible thing to do would probably be sort of set up some claims system.

[00:55:36]>> Yeah.

[00:55:36]>> Prove it's yours. I'll give it back to you. Otherwise, it's for sale.

[00:55:40][Applause] Bunch of slippery snakes.

[00:55:57]>> Let's be honest. If the Federation had this position and they could do this, they would have They're cowardly snakes.

[00:56:05]>> What?

[00:56:07]He's like, "Oh, they're cowardly snakes.

[00:56:09]We're hiding. your hidey-ho >> from and they would have done the same.

[00:56:14]>> Half of that had no mic behind it. So I don't >> I [ __ ] hell.

[00:56:20][Music] >> Yeah, I mean that's the whole thing, right? Dehumanizing your enemy.

[00:56:31]>> Yeah.

[00:56:36]>> And here comes the lightning bolt.

[00:56:44]So far, we haven't seen anything extra in this in this uh >> it could be like couple seconds of extra step all across the hour, >> in which case you wouldn't notice.

[00:57:02]So, you said the snake thing. I had another thought in my head, which is the holler. It's hard to cheer. against the underdog.

[00:57:10]>> Yeah.

[00:57:11]>> Which is the whole Zeon motif. Zeon's the underdog of the war. And then they do, you know, ear stuff you can't forgive.

[00:57:20]>> But if you're only starting with this show, it's literally a bunch of people with missing limbs and whatnot fighting against >> the guy in a super suit basically >> who shouts leg. You know, >> it's hard to root for that guy.

[00:57:49][Music] Also, I think that's a [ __ ] way to drive.

[00:57:55]>> He's going to like that, right?

[00:57:59]>> It seems like a way not getting shot.

[00:58:01]>> Yeah. Yeah. But I the the micro spit like going his way and then hard this way and then hard this way is going to give you a lot of stopping points as you change momentum and angle it literally in a uh almost 180 to what you're already doing. I think it would be easier to conserve your momentum and then just make it a giant turn. Yeah, >> a lot of giant turns.

[00:58:30]See what's >> Jag.

[00:58:40][Music] And I get it would be near impossible to guess where he's making those random, you know, what do you call them? Crazy Ivans. All those crazy Ivans he's making. But um new types. Anyone can guess it would be them.

[00:59:15][Music] Get a lot of this on the Zeon side. Just get us out of firing range.

[00:59:43]Oh, you remember Igloo had it, too.

[00:59:52]A lesson they well need to learn in space battleship. Get motto.

[01:00:02][Music] >> Oh, that's Bubé. Yeah, that's the song.

[01:00:19][Music] Ironic considering Carla.

[01:00:26]>> Yeah.

[01:00:27][Music] MSLD mobile suit living dead battalion not division or squad.

[01:00:53][Music] >> Probably the worst thing for him to do right there was that >> why >> he's panicking. His heart rate's accelerating. is pushing out all the um the pain relief stuff that he's been put into him. So that scream is going to turn from panic into actual [ __ ] pain.

[01:01:21]>> That's why he was like, "Fuck it. Let's start chopping off arms and legs >> for real this time."

[01:01:27]>> I mean, we're at the end of the war, man. It's everything. throw everything at the fan.

[01:01:34]>> Yeah, but he's doing it because he wants to survive basically, not because he cares about >> You're throwing that out as though it's a some sort of negative reason to do something.

[01:01:46]The number one motivation you need to give all of your NPCs in an RPG, survive.

[01:01:54]Unless you're a [ __ ] fanatic, nobody wants to die.

[01:01:58]Also shitty design.

[01:02:12]Why did we specifically design it on a a problem that nobody has on this ship?

[01:02:23]It isn't. Also feels like he should have done the thing from um uh what's that Kaiju movie Pacific Rim.

[01:02:37]>> Oh the the synchronization thing.

[01:02:39]>> Yeah, we've specifically seen that there's plenty of these guys are missing both of the legs and there's a bunch of them. They're missing both of their arms. Two pilots. Boom. What is it?

[01:02:47]>> I guess there's no enough space inside the machine.

[01:02:52]>> Sit in each other's lap.

[01:02:55]Yeah, that wouldn't be very effective. I was say comfortable. They're comfortable coming out of your mouth versus what?

[01:03:02]Getting another limb cut off while we're comfortable that solution.

[01:03:10][Music] All I'm saying is that if you're designing your mobile suit that only RoboCop can pilot it, well, maybe you need to design your mobile suit to be more pilotable.

[01:03:30][Music] >> And then in UC 150, somebody cloned Daryl off of his arm that we kept freeze tried.

[01:03:42]You might need that one there one day, I guess.

[01:03:46]So, like a finger or something you can reattach, I guess.

[01:03:50]I don't know. I'm assume not considering what's required for the prosthetic technology they seem to have.

[01:03:59][Music] Must be a pain in the ass having to deal with all those floating uh blood uh clots and and tears all over the place, >> especially if you ever have to yawn.

[01:04:14]>> Yeah.

[01:04:33]So, something that doesn't make a lot of sense to me now I'm thinking about it. I get that like having your nerve connected to the machine gives you like better reaction response time.

[01:04:42]>> Mhm.

[01:04:43]>> But this thing has like four arms technically, like not actual arms. You got the back arms that it uses and everything.

[01:04:49]>> Yeah.

[01:04:49]>> How does you know you go to like a future cyberpunk setting or something like that, I want four arms. just like, "Okay, well, your mind isn't set up for four arms. You've been doing two arms your whole life."

[01:05:08]Here comes the kids.

[01:05:13]Yeah. 12 balls.

[01:05:16]Got to make him an even number.

[01:05:39]Then you know they got to be high-end drugs.

[01:05:57]The thing is, we know that she survives.

[01:06:02]>> He doesn't, >> right? Who's he?

[01:06:05]>> So, uh, the second in command, um, >> right?

[01:06:11]So that has to be that guy's gota well he's he's dead so he doesn't care but you know >> well I mean he does in case you believe in the afterlife and we have a whole cult as a second half of this thing so >> the idea that he said he couldn't see his family knowing that she got away see his family in the afterlife yeah well she got away so She hasn't [ __ ] herself yet, so I guess she's not dead.

[01:06:55]>> The airplane way of dealing with women.

[01:06:58]>> Well, I mean, keeping her conscious, I think, is the goal.

[01:07:01]>> Yeah, >> cuz otherwise I don't know what you do about somebody who's overdosed on a injection style drug.

[01:07:08]In fact, I don't now think about it. I don't know what to do about any sort of drug. Somebody's overdosed on cocaine and I don't know how you do anything for them.

[01:07:17]>> Millions. Wow.

[01:07:20]>> Well, yeah.

[01:07:20]>> Yeah. Tens of millions per banshee.

[01:07:23]Yeah. Whole side.

[01:07:36]She she joins a a suicidal cult.

[01:07:43]>> Oh, two ranked promotions, of course.

[01:07:48][Music] Oh, >> I mean to be fair, he has another hand.

[01:08:05]Yeah, >> he only just lost the other hand. I don't feel like I can blame uh Fischer here for like I thought you were going to reach with your good hand.

[01:08:17]>> In fact, don't to make um Fisher not feel so bad. I think I would feel worse about Daryl being not able to catch the bottle cuz it implies if he's this bad at remembering he's got hands, >> what's that going to do for us when he's in the Gundam or sorry, the Saiku Zaku all joined together.

[01:08:42]It's a bit awkward when you've only got three people in your life.

[01:08:47]>> All the pictures are essentially of just them three together. They have no other friends.

[01:09:00]Apparently, no one else on the team either.

[01:09:03]>> Like, where were the mechanics?

[01:09:05]>> Yeah, the ground crew.

[01:09:10]I mean, even if it were a reproduction of a P-51, that took quite a bit of people to maintain that, the maintainers, you know, probably three to five people. But they're the elites, so just them.

[01:09:21][Music] >> Did you know that all he listens to is jazz?

[01:09:33]>> Good God. We got to give him some help.

[01:09:44]I hate to say it, but I think it would have been a very interesting story if they all died essentially in this final battle. Everybody dies.

[01:09:52]>> I don't think it would be as uh shocking for Gundam, though.

[01:09:56]>> No, but it would >> I think it's more interesting when people survive because not in general.

[01:10:05]In general, I think it's more interesting when people die because most shows aren't set up for the people to die. But Gundam is just like sad sack the anime. So, it's more interesting when people survive trauma and then have to live with that trauma.

[01:10:29]>> My father's name was Brushnikov.

[01:10:40]She does. Technically, she fulfilled the mission. Understood the assignment, Carla.

[01:10:46]>> Yeah.

[01:10:50]In a very weird way. But hey, whatever works.

[01:10:57]>> It's a miracle to survive this war.

[01:11:01]any war really.

[01:11:03]>> Well, I mean, a lot of wars aren't as wide scope and, you know, all-encompassing as this one.

[01:11:08]>> I would argue, you know, if you aren't in uh throat, if you're not in uh Korea, then the Korean War is very easily survivable.

[01:11:23]Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This is everything everywhere.

[01:11:28]I think we had this conversation talking about the people on side six or war in the pocket maybe where I was like where would you go to get away from this war >> and that's when he poked his eye out.

[01:11:51]>> I made that joke during the episode.

[01:11:53]>> Yeah. Like, >> oh, there goes my eyeball. And then I instantly thought better of it because I felt like I was making a ableism joke >> cuz like that's what I keep coming back to is that everything seems funny in the moment and then you think about it and it's like oh >> true true but when you make literally your captain a captain >> nobody know what to tell you.

[01:12:14]>> Nobody in the show calls him that.

[01:12:21]>> Why are you taking pictures in front of the GMs?

[01:12:24]assuming that you flew in on the GMs.

[01:12:27]>> No, they flew in a shuttle. No, no, these guys flew in on the GMs.

[01:12:33]It's like posing in front of your fighter plane before you go to.

[01:12:51]Yeah, maybe that toilet thing should have some suction behind it cuz you're like Yeah. getting swamped in your own spew. Oh man.

[01:13:06]He was getting comfortable in the seat when he's like, "Get off my seat, bitch."

[01:13:11]>> Uh, no. The way she's holding her hands there, it doesn't feel like she's saying, "Bitch, she's saying, "Sorry, I'm back."

[01:13:22]Like, you keep trying to make her like stronger than she is. She is the person who just tried to kill herself.

[01:13:29]That doesn't make you a bad person necessarily. She was just overwhelmed.

[01:13:33]>> One thing less I said stronger than she is.

[01:13:37]>> She was giving up. She because of IO.

[01:13:42]>> Oh, you sometimes need help. You sometimes you can't do it alone.

[01:13:48]>> I'm on the uh fence here.

[01:13:53]>> Obviously, if you need help, find help.

[01:13:55]I'm not like playing that card, but at the same time, killing yourself is a reprehensible action. So, I'm not going to like sugarcoat it.

[01:14:06]>> I'm don't believe it's a reprehensible action. I I wish people didn't do it cuz I >> I could hold up scars, but I they're not they're old enough that they can't be visible here. So, as somebody who's been there tried that, >> it is a reprehensible action in my eyes as a member of the club.

[01:14:28]Then again, I literally one that morning I woke up to see my neighbor trying to uh hang himself on the tree in the backyard with a chain. So yeah, >> that's pretty hardcore.

[01:14:39]>> He survived.

[01:14:41]>> Well, yeah, he was doing it in public.

[01:14:42]That's pretty much a cry for help. No, he was doing in his own backyard because my backyard was psychon fence his backyard and the tree was in his yard and I could see it from my you know you know the two houses were parents found them.

[01:14:56]>> Well yeah I mean like I said before mental health message obviously if you need help find help.

[01:15:03]>> Yes, >> but also don't [ __ ] do it.

[01:15:12]You might think your position is as worse as it can possibly get, but no position is the worst position of all.

[01:15:29]Anyway, the point of what I was getting at was more so the fact that you're giving her a position of strength when clearly she's not in one.

[01:15:37]Also, he's just constantly attacking the second in command of the ship for no good reasons.

[01:15:43]>> Is she? You are. I said you are.

[01:15:47]>> You hated him before he even did anything.

[01:15:51]>> And he proved me right. I don't think he did.

[01:15:54]>> Yeah, he did. These elite people are [ __ ] [ __ ] >> Yeah. It doesn't mean that you get to just shoot the the woman that ordered the evacuation of the same people that you are complaining. I'm supposed to be uh defending like these are my crew. I want to defend them. I want them to get out of the ship. But >> she kind of abandoned them already when she tried to kill them herself when she was in charge of them without warning.

[01:16:18]She was going to leave them without a command structure.

[01:16:22]>> She already did worse than he did in my eyes.

[01:16:25]>> And then like I said, I understood where he was coming from.

[01:16:32]All I'm saying, man, is if you're in charge of the nursery, don't shoot yourself in the bathroom.

[01:16:38]>> Those kids are depending on you. Those people that she was ordering to evacuate, she wouldn't have been there to do that if I hadn't found her.

[01:16:48][Applause] Sorry. Half an hour of just non-stop jokes and then 10 minutes solid of serious topics handled inappropriately.

[01:17:06]>> Probably should be the tagline of our channel.

[01:17:09]>> Yeah.

[01:17:09]>> 30 minutes of jokes and 10 minutes of serious stuff handled inappropriately.

[01:17:19]All the energy of golden eye.

[01:17:22]I am invincible destroyed.

[01:17:33][Music] Also, I could see this uh being a lot better with a rock and roll soundtrack.

[01:17:53]>> AC/DC in there.

[01:17:56]>> Maybe some Hell's Bells. Those about to rock.

[01:18:04]Who made who?

[01:18:07]>> No, my immigrant song is not AC/DC, is it?

[01:18:10]>> No, that is um >> No, it's a one.

[01:18:16]>> Yeah, >> sometimes I get that mixed up with Barracuda.

[01:18:50]all the energy of, "Hey, look over there."

[01:18:53]Yeah, >> like I said, I watched that the launch thing and him shooting so many times to figure out that he survived.

[01:19:01]>> Well, I even said I gave him 50/50 odds because he was either in the faroff pod or the one that got blown up.

[01:19:10]Oh, and she even tries to save him.

[01:19:12]Yeah, I know.

[01:19:14]Not giving new information here.

[01:19:22]her trying to save him doesn't absolve her in his mind of all of her previous failures.

[01:19:30]>> And her previous failures exist back to the failures of the elites who failed the colonies. I keep calling them colonies. Maybe I'm thinking like Gundam Wing too much. Um the sides plus her failure of command here.

[01:19:47]>> Oh, really? I mean, what's a failure of command here? She was >> once again, she keeps retreating back to her command room to either have sex with her boyfriend, according to them, or kill herself.

[01:19:59]If you think that um our current situation is a product of her negligence of command, that has to be contributing factors in your mind.

[01:20:20]Okay, she flew it away in space. We never see how she survived though.

[01:20:26]>> I mean at the moment there this is just compilation.

[01:20:29]Yeah.

[01:20:38]>> So you start playing who for those about to rock right now.

[01:20:58][Applause] I use so many voice removers. It just occurred to me I could probably do that, but for what reason?

[01:21:08]Screen.

[01:21:12]I mean, I wouldn't be able to show it to anybody, right? This is all copyright stuff.

[01:21:23]Also, there's a lot of uh resources by Zeon being wasted on this pointless battle. Again, they win here.

[01:21:32]And they win what?

[01:21:38][Music] If the added scenes are all extra to the fight scenes, then I will never notice.

[01:22:06]So, I'm like I don't remember seeing this before.

[01:22:11]>> It kind of looks like that's what it is so far.

[01:22:20]Eat it out of some kind of epilog. Maybe goddamn shirt.

[01:22:29][Music] You know how they uh saying that his name is low in this uh translation?

[01:22:41]>> Yeah.

[01:22:41]>> Me and um Ray are watching regular Lotus War. There's a character called Sheerus in that one and her name is recently been translated out of shirts.

[01:22:52]Thought about that with a shirt floating in the face.

[01:22:59]Also, I think it's a bad idea just to have your like tape deck taped to the top of your cockpit or your console rather.

[01:23:08]Shakes too much and now you have this thing bashing you in the face constantly.

[01:23:26]How do you know signatures? Probably >> I would think that the ship would be putting off a lot of heat.

[01:23:38]>> No, but the people inside would No, >> no, I'm saying though that the ship would probably be putting off a lot of heat, so it would make it hard to tell individual life science by heat signature.

[01:23:59]You going to be like trying to find a ball that you dropped in the snow with a thermal camera.

[01:24:05]It would be the same heat signature all across.

[01:24:26]This is just the ghamu fight from Macros Plus with >> Yeah, except >> more background.

[01:24:37]>> True. And not the as personal connection between the characters.

[01:25:03]be a great time to start the first Universal Century Gundam zombie movie.

[01:25:09]Also, these weapons in Sierra G should be sending >> backwards, but apparently they have some way of canceling.

[01:25:16]>> Could be.

[01:25:18]>> I know that such a thing exists. I don't know anything about it though. One of my favorite hard sci-fi novels, Eon, has a lot of Soviets training on the moon with uh just regular firearms.

[01:25:31]>> Yeah, regular firearms specifically hand for zerg space environments.

[01:25:39][Music] this singing and that's what I would include Bon Joy's living on a prayer.

[01:26:01][Music] Again, it's all win-win for them, though. They're already planning to kill themselves. You rushing into the room threatening to kill you, doesn't really make a lot of difference anymore.

[01:26:18][Music] See, like I said, she had no faith in him.

[01:26:40]>> She has no idea what's coming outside.

[01:26:43]She assumed from the moment she left him behind, he was going to die out there.

[01:26:52]Also, I guess if you're just waiting to stop when somebody shouts something, >> you were always waiting for somebody to stop you.

[01:27:12]I suspect forever.

[01:27:17]>> Not for nothing, but the timeline of shows that we have to watch goes up well past 100.

[01:27:36]cuz you're afraid that you're going to get tortured the way you're going to torture someone else later on.

[01:27:47]Again, everyone in Zeon knows what they've done by this time in the war.

[01:27:52]Seems like a pretty smart move to kill yourself considering what's going to happen to you.

[01:28:02]That guy's nose is just an arrow pointing up.

[01:28:17]I said the exact width of a beam saber beam.

[01:28:23][Music] Also, that's on you for not hearing that guy's footsteps on the ceiling.

[01:28:35]And that was the last moment she was ever saying.

[01:28:39][Applause] You think maybe she's just agrophobic?

[01:28:53]Agorophobic.

[01:28:55]>> Maybe didn't seem to be that way before.

[01:29:01]>> She's hit a lot of breaking points along the way. It's hard to tell what suddenly caused this reaction.

[01:29:07]>> Yeah.

[01:29:09]It's that's why they call him the last strong >> by itself is nothing but it's [Music] Oops.

[01:29:37]Come on.

[01:29:40][Music] I think this is extra. I don't remember us getting a second shot of her before.

[01:29:59]>> So, yeah, they're like a couple of seconds extra shots all scattered throughout.

[01:30:15]And again, she had no faith in him because she just assumed that he was already died versus he was planning to come back.

[01:30:24]>> He had faith that she'd survive.

[01:30:29]>> Yeah, that's telling me I'm going to hell then.

[01:30:37][Music] I guess they are dick- sized.

[01:30:44]>> Thought she's putting a condom on.

[01:30:48]>> God damn it.

[01:30:54]>> Yeah. What saved him earlier now save doomed him this time around.

[01:30:59][Music] Well, I mean, it implies whatever the hell is happening here.

[01:31:06]>> Like, what's the lightning doing to >> I think activating. I think he lost power and that's what it's actually doing.

[01:31:12]>> The lights never went out.

[01:31:15][Music] [Music] >> Nothing. Nothing. Cuz you're an [ __ ] [Music] Sorry seeing that reminds me of the opening for everything that we watch where it's like the one Gundam and it's just Gundam. It's like >> imagine if it was just that like a Halloween episode where it's just the decapitated Gundam Funie.

[01:32:25]Didn't you bring your gun?

[01:32:30]>> Well, do we know that by this shot there's a bunch of other Zakus and dos floating around them?

[01:32:37][Music] >> There would legitimately be like shooting a prisoner for when they're surrendering.

[01:32:54][Music] I feel so lonely.

[01:33:09]>> There's got to be a scene of Claudia somewhere in this.

[01:33:13]>> Yeah.

[01:33:15]>> If you were going to add anything, you've got to add that bit.

[01:33:19][Music] more debris for the debris field.

[01:33:27]>> Course that this didn't happen.

[01:33:34]>> Or did it? I guess it did, but she's out of it.

[01:33:37]>> The first time you see, you think that she know that happened last time.

[01:34:10]Wait a second.

[01:34:12]He left one fight. Are they implying that he flew all the way back to the moon?

[01:34:18]>> No. No. He went to the ships. Remember there was a scene where he gets stopped by other sakus and he's like, "Oh, the reinforcement sent." So, he flew to the other.

[01:34:26]>> But they were already on their way then.

[01:34:28]>> Yeah.

[01:34:28]>> So, he didn't send them. I don't I remember him leaving the fight.

[01:34:34]>> And that's the last time we see him.

[01:34:36]>> No, we see him when they get recover.

[01:34:45]They said they're the same guy. They're the same guy. Just one guy is white and the other guy's black.

[01:34:54]>> I guess they recorded also evidence of the torture.

[01:34:57]>> No, no. He was telling turning a blind eye. They weren't showing recording that one. They had a whole note section about it.

[01:35:11]One of many.

[01:35:13]There's so many Gundam pilots. You would be surprised.

[01:35:24]>> See, this is why you get beaten. I don't mean like why you lost the war. I mean like physically. This is how you get beaten.

[01:35:38][Music] or conversely, I was just better than you.

[01:36:06]He did. Well, he would >> pan outside of the war ending.

[01:36:24]Got to make sure that voice actor for Bianca gets credit for the movie.

[01:36:35]Yeah, there's no way the cord wouldn't have gotten shot though.

[01:36:44][Music] [Music] Also a horrible way cuz when that thing blew up, you'd think the hand would have blown up with it.

[01:36:58]>> Yeah.

[01:37:00]Yeah, they're just speeding through this part of the the show.

[01:37:11]>> See, that's Yeah, the door gets open to uh eat.

[01:37:15]>> We literally spent half an hour lessons.

[01:37:17]We don't have to do this on the movie.

[01:37:21]If you wanted to do it, you should have done the other thing that you were trying to pull out during that, but it didn't let you.

[01:37:31][Music] Music at this point is not that great.

[01:37:37][Music] I don't know what they were going with.

[01:37:39]>> Said Theta about every other part.

[01:37:43]>> I mean, I'm not hating it. It's just kind of weird choice. That's all. said Theta about the entirety of Thunderbolt.

[01:37:57]I mean, good job on them for making a whole Gundam series for people without any musical taste.

[01:38:05]>> Oh, come on.

[01:38:07]>> No, legitimately, this is like right down there like blueg grass gospel freestyle jazz. That's like the worst.

[01:38:16]So, I'm not going to hold back. If you like freestyle jazz, then you are objectively wrong.

[01:38:22]>> Oh, of course. Objectively. So, >> objectively.

[01:38:27]>> Sure.

[01:38:29]>> Mhm.

[01:38:29]>> You're right up there with everybody who says, "My dad never took a lesson in his life."

[01:38:38]>> God damn it. That's just too much.

[01:38:43]>> It's just horrible.

[01:38:45]Like I would sooner like listen to the Macros Plus soundtrack on loop for like a week straight.

[01:38:55]>> I like that too. So >> I know I will at least throw everyone a bone and say, "Hey, Macros Plus soundtrack.

[01:39:03]That's that's just taste, right?

[01:39:05]Everyone's tastes are different." This is not a matter of taste. Freestyle jazz is not music. I don't care how much you say, "Oh, musical experts, how much I have their study about." I don't care a [ __ ] I can drop a bunch of marbles down board and make something closer to music than this.

[01:39:22]Stomp is more music than this.

[01:39:26]>> Stomp is fine, but she has a street performance.

[01:39:28]>> Yeah, cuz you know what? Stomp has harmony, rhythm.

[01:39:34]I literally went over a whole I gave freestyle jazz a chance like looked it up, listened to a bunch of stuff, told you exactly what makes it not music in my eyes. I went out I put I put myself out there >> and I tried. It is not music.

[01:39:52]If there is a common definition of what music is, this should not fall into it.

[01:39:59]This should fall into the definition of cacophony.

[01:40:03]Like I said, we all have our bottom.

[01:40:05]This is the bottom for me. This and bluegrass Gospel. I would assume I would actually say Bluegrass Posible is the worst kind of music.

[01:40:13]>> Ronald Reagan. Other side. I Yeah.

[01:40:15]>> Well, you know, the other Ronald Reagan from the other side.

[01:40:20]>> Yeah.

[01:40:21]>> Now that we know what Other Side is.

[01:40:23]Yeah.

[01:40:24]>> From the Kira Kira >> or one of the multiple other universes.

[01:40:27]That Ronald Reagan.

[01:40:28]>> Yeah. I'm going to have to tell you I don't trust the Soviets very well.

[01:40:33]>> It's the Ronald Reagan that existed from the Watchmen universe.

[01:40:36]>> Ah.

[01:40:45]Ah. This is going to be a really weird edit.

[01:40:53]>> But you have nothing left.

[01:40:55]No, I'm just listening to the music because somebody remember we have to talk over the music. So you literally have to >> True.

[01:41:01]>> Also, what music?

[01:41:03]>> The music I'm hearing right now. Just because you can't hear >> Do you see Are the people talking to you as well? Can you see them? Can you point them out to me?

[01:41:13]>> What?

[01:41:14]>> Well, you're making stuff up. There's no music being played. This is Wait.

[01:41:21]>> No, this is scene. We saw >> Yeah. I was hoping there would be something new at the very end.

[01:41:29]>> Cool. We captured that. Let's go see Monica.

[01:41:33]>> Mhm.

[01:41:33]>> And then let's turn around and look at like a medical bay. And Claudia is going to be in it.

[01:41:38]>> O2.

[01:41:40]>> I assume Char must have had the 01 or something.

[01:41:44]>> Mhm.

[01:41:46]>> The incomplete one.

[01:41:47]>> Oh, that doesn't make any sense.

[01:41:49]In the previous fight over Abaquo, in this there is a Zeong just flying around doing stuff.

[01:41:56]>> So that would imply Char had the zero or some number down the line.

[01:42:02]>> Mhm.

[01:42:03]>> I don't know.

[01:42:05]Yeah. Well, that was that was uh uh Fle not Fleming the other um the one that had the the the psycho uh system. No, >> we disagreed on that. Yeah, I still disagree.

[01:42:16]>> It's him always with him. Like the picture that you have is him in the hel big helmet with the psychonal system around him.

[01:42:24]>> Still disagree. We saw in an outside shot of what he was in when um I can't remember the the the the big afro giant handlebar mustache black guy who's also on the Xeon side name I can't remember. Um is talking to him like don't be afraid Daryl or whatever the Daryl Billy whatever he says.

[01:42:46]>> Yeah. We see an outside shot and he's not in one of those. So, >> so just disagree.

[01:42:52]>> So, I mean, as a better product, it was just a compilation movie. Didn't really give us any new information. It was off.

[01:43:02]So, yeah, this one didn't do it unless the other one is like half and half. I mean, they compress the whole battle of a as well.

[01:43:14]The episodes that come after this one in the show were the 24 to 28 minute episodes.

[01:43:21]>> Yeah.

[01:43:22]>> So, if this is four or five episodes and we have three other episodes, those three episodes are almost twice the length of the episodes that these were made off of. So, it could still be the same length and still use the same amount of episodes, not the same episodes.

[01:43:35]>> Yeah. And still have the same ending, >> which would be >> bad, >> I think. Yeah. Like, I don't know. the movies are better. Okay. Well, >> well, the problem I have is that we walk into these things essentially. Oh, how long until you guys get to Thunderbolt?

[01:43:51]We're all waiting for Thunderbolt. Oh, man. Thunderbolts really must be good.

[01:43:55]And then we get to it and it's like, well, we've been pretty good about Thunderbolt the entire way. We liked it.

[01:44:00]And then the ending [ __ ] sucked. And it's like >> those people that were excited for Thunderbolt know how Thunderbolt ends.

[01:44:08]So >> us like bitching about it isn't going to be a good outcome on their side. So it's just like I don't know what to do with this. We're going to come out villains no matter what we do.

[01:44:20]>> Well, we're just saying it like we see it.

[01:44:23]>> The only way to win here is going to be uh is going to be Oh god, guys. I'm so sorry. The uh the video corrupted. Also, we are retiring.

[01:44:33]>> We ain't doing this no more. Just assume assume the reaction that you wanted is the reaction you got and we are done.

[01:44:40]>> Yeah, >> hats. Take my hat. I'm going out.

[01:44:44]>> Got to go. Bye.

[01:44:48]>> Yeah. I mean really it's the ending that I kind of hate because and the whole I keep going back to the whole two stories thing because this part if this if this had just been uh without the extra scene if this had been the whole of Thunder was like yeah this is fine this is good you know like the characters even the characters you're supposed to like and the characters you're supposed to hate I still hate love to hate them they're still all good characters except the exo which I never liked But that's that's okay. Still well written overall.

[01:45:22]>> Well, I think that's probably why they did it this way >> cuz this is the first movie.

[01:45:26]>> You can just watch this by itself and that's fine, right? And then you get to the second one and the >> maybe they add an ending. Like I imagine people are out there like, "No, that's how it ends. It's just the ending." It's like, >> they might as well just put a to be continued on at the end of it then because that's what it feels like. I I'm I am Sans's words.

[01:45:50]>> All right. Well, I mean, I guess if that's everything cuz I am also without because we've said this at the end of the the show and it feels like all we're doing is building ourselves up for disappointment when it comes to the second movie. But we have to watch it because if we don't, we won't know if what our uh what we're saying is true or not. And it could surprise us. I doubt it.

[01:46:13]>> You're hoping.

[01:46:15]Pacifism, optimism.

[01:46:17]All right. Well, that being said, then once again, I have been Theta. This has been Lessons. We've been Stoneface Reactions, and we will catch you next time. Bye-bye.

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