Tony Blair’s 'Right-wing' Immigration U-Turn EXPOSES Lie About The Far Right | Ralph Schoellhammer

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[00:00:00]Let's talk now though to Ralph Schulhammer uh to find out what's going on this part of the world uh and in Western Europe in general. Um Ralph Rick, good morning to you, sir.

[00:00:10]>> Hey Mike, good to see you. How you doing?

[00:00:12]>> I'm very well. Very well. How are things in your part of the world?

[00:00:15]>> Well, pretty good. As you can see, I ran into a tree just recently, but otherwise things are fine.

[00:00:21]>> Was it Was it Was it disguised as something else? You didn't see it?

[00:00:25]>> No, I'll be completely honest. I don't remember. But that's No, that's the story. That's that's the story for behind the payw wall.

[00:00:31]>> Oh, okay. All right. Well, we will have to get that story off you at some point.

[00:00:35]Um, we have got um I suppose uh I don't know how I would describe it for you. Um a sort of international crisis going on.

[00:00:44]Nobody seems to know where the world is at the moment. Everybody I speak to says we're not really sure what's happening.

[00:00:50]You know, we don't know whether there's going to be peace in the Middle East. We don't really know whether Trump is going to bomb Iran. We don't really know whether or not Israel is going to um you know indict Netanyahu. We don't really know who's going to be running France or Germany or Spain, you know, where there seems to be a bit of an uprising at the moment against the current government.

[00:01:09]It's all a bit weird, isn't it?

[00:01:12]>> Well, be before we start, I'm sure you have. Have you already talked about Tony Blair and the piece that that the Tony Blair Institute published a couple of days ago?

[00:01:19]>> We have, but we can continue to talk about it. Yeah. because you know it's a return of Tony Blair like the the ghost of Christmas past.

[00:01:27]>> Yeah. I mean, as I said, I'm not the biggest fan of Tony Blair, but one cannot deny that at his time, he was a shrewd uh, you know, political operative. And when I read this piece and he says, and he writes to me, these are his words, but everybody can find it that we need uh, cheap, not clean energy, that everything, but I have to quote directly here, that >> whatever it takes has to be done to solve the illegal immigration issue. I mean, look at that. I mean he basically sounds like the AFD or no le Pen or you know you or restore or reform. I mean he right he's he's kind of circumventing it a little bit and says oh only illegal migr but that you see that direction of the journey that there are apparently now people in the the mainstream if you want that say you know what maybe those supposedly farright guys were actually right you I think it was Margaret Thatcher who said what was it you you you kind of you create the conditions where the wrong people are forced to do the right thing I think it was Milton Friedman actually not not Margaret Thatcher and I believe this is a little bit slowly and hopefully not too slow.

[00:02:32]That's happening that people who have told us for years that the right has no solutions, the right got everything wrong. They don't know what they're talking about. And now you have the Tony Blair Institute come out and basically publish a piece that that sounds like the party program of, as I said, whether it's restore, reform the AF, the Freedom Party, you name it.

[00:02:50]>> So I think we are slowly but and look at the success of your show, Mike. I think we are slowly but surely taking over the mainstream. Now this is going to be a tough fight and you can already sense uh keyword Germany where they say maybe we should give people who live for 5 years in Germany the right to vote in federal elections. So, so there is there is a counter push as well. But as I always say, I think it is 5 minutes to 12, but it's not 5 minutes past 12. And you can see all over the continent and uh in the UK, I think there is a counter movement growing now. Hopefully, we'll grow quick enough and get into power, not just into office quickly enough, but but maybe there is some, as you said, we live in interesting times. things are changing very quickly and maybe for once they will change into a direction that is a good one.

[00:03:37]>> Well, we would like to say that but unfortunately Britain is kind of dragging its heels, you know, where if it's 5 to 12 in Europe in in in the UK it's sort of quarter to 12 because they're 10 minutes behind because we seem to have been infested uh if you like with this Labour Party um you know mantra. We got Andy Burnham for example writing in response to Tony Blair today in the Times. He's written a uh not quite as long an essay but something like an eight 1500 word essay for the times in which he says um in in in sort of support of what you've just mentioned there um that basically 40 years of neol liberalism has ruined Britain and you go well that's fine Andy but for 35 of those 40 years you were actually in government or in senior positions in the shadow government and so you know if if if neoliberalism has has has ruined Britain you've been responsible for it.

[00:04:31]>> Yeah. And it's an empty term. I mean this is I don't know Andy Bernham but that's a moronic argument. We have the same in Austria and Germany. But I mean look for example at the direction of government debt. Look at the direction of government involvement in the economy. I mean what exactly was was neoliberal about this. And again I'm the last one to defend neoliberalism. Don't get me wrong. I think there is a role for the government and for the state to be played in infrastructure in industrial policy. But the idea that like there was this kind of new form of Manchester capitalism burning through the UK over the last 40 years is completely absurd. I mean the big problem in the UK is not that there was for example when you look at building things whether it's a power plant whether it's a bridge or something that this happened too fast it happened too slowly or not at all. I mean trying to build a railway in the UK or in continental Europe is basically impossible these days. I mean, if you would, you know, if you could get all these these old guys out of their grave, you know, kind of the the Palmerstones, the the Great Britain in the 19th century, and you would tell them it takes, I don't know, 2 million pounds to build some stairs up to a subway station, they would think you're completely insane.

[00:05:39]>> Yeah. Ex absolutely right. And yet, you know, on a on a on a much more basic level, and we we spoke about this story very much today. I don't know whether you've seen it about the guy who was murdered by a seek um uh who the police decided that when he was stabbed they should actually because he was white put handcuffs on him uh and make sure that he didn't do any harm to anyone even though he was actually the victim of the terrible crime. Um uh the guy who has been convicted of his of his killing Henry Noak is his name. Um he was stabbed five times with a ceremonial seek knife by this guy Vikram Diguar.

[00:06:17]But because Vikram Diguar told the police that he had been uh racially abused, they took his side even as this guy was dying um and drowning in his own blood, you know. And that tells you more about Britain, I think, than anything that Andy Bernham says or anything that Tony Blair says. No, I think it tells you that again, not just in the UK, there is a problem with structural racism in in at least in parts of the police, but it's not going the direction that we have been told by the media that it is going. I mean, I know we talked about this on your show many times, but there is obvious and we had similar cases in continental Europe as well. If there is a crime that involves, you know, somebody with a migrant background or, you know, think about the grooming gangs and something, there is a tendency to cover these things up. What happened to Henry Novak was in a sense kind of know the worst of all these these instances. So this idea that you know you better be better let somebody die than appear racist of course turned into a form of racism in itself. I mean I think this is very very hard to deny at this point but it's very odd. I mean that you weaponize institutions against the native population of a country in a sense I'm slightly exaggerating here but you know what I mean. It's a very odd thing and I want to add some other anecdote to this. This is so absurd.

[00:07:30]There was this this recent I forgot was it in the times or in some newspaper that uh a story about the last indigenous people of Europe and this was about some I don't know you know some some in Finland some you know nomadic tribe doesn't matter but the point is apparently the English are not uh are not native to England and the Germans are not native to Germany. And you know why I find this so absurd? If you look at they say the Mori in New Zealand, the the Mori came to New Zealand you know in the 12th 13th century. So Germany has been German and I would argue that you know the Britain has been British for longer than the Mayoris have been in New Zealand. But some are they are indigenous people but the English and the Scots and the Austrians and the Germans are not. So they don't or the the let's say the opinion makers they don't even grant us the right to our own land. A lot of the things that are being said on the right that maybe they are sometimes said in a somewhat you know provocative way but I would argue that in essence they are correct. There is this idea that everybody in this world has a home country has a native soil except Europeans. Yes. Except Europeans.

[00:08:37]We're the only ones who don't have this.

[00:08:38]This is absurd and I'm glad there's movement against it. Well, I'm glad there is as well, but I'm not sure it's it's it's not too late and too little as well because I mean I was just saying in the last um segment talking to William Kston, 40% of people born in Britain now have got a foreign parent. 40%. That's a big number.

[00:08:56]>> That is a big number, right? And something needs to happen. I think you know the the concept of remigration will also gain traction in the UK. The one thing and I want to end on a somewhat more optimistic note is there are also I mean I don't live in Britain but I would count myself among them. There are people who came to the UK who genuinely love the UK. Right? Of course they're they're not ethnically English but I think they want to be right. So there's there's a strong desire for them to integrate. Not every single one who was born to a migrant parent automatically is you know hostile towards British culture. So I think that's a very very important thing to keep in mind. So not everything is law. let us not become too, you know, doomer in in the outlook.

[00:09:35]I think there are still people I mean, you have me on your show. I'm not English. I'm not British, but obviously I have strong affection to you, your country, and your culture, and I want to see it continue.

[00:09:44]>> Exactly. But that's that has always been my argument, Ralph. You know, I've I've spoken many times about growing up in London, uh, which was very much a city full of people from other places, which was brilliant, you know, and I loved it.

[00:09:57]And I lived in New York when I lived also amongst loads and loads of people from different countries and it was fantastic. But it's different now. This is not the, you know, this is not the London that I grew up in where you would have Italian restaurants and, you know, cool, you know, Greek people that you would meet and and interesting people from from all all sorts of corners of the earth, right? Australians, you know, incore and all of that. But now it's not like that. Now it's it's siloed. Now it's kind of, you know, ghettoized. And now you find yourself in places where uh only certain types of people live and it's not like that.

[00:10:32]>> It's been too much.

[00:10:33]>> No, you're right. It's been too much.

[00:10:34]And I think this should be the argument.

[00:10:35]This is my main criticism when it comes to Tony Blair, right? When he takes the the somewhat cop out of talking about illegal immigration, illegal migration has been too much. There needs to be a moratorium, right, for all of Europe, at least for some migration. Again, I think if somebody from Ireland moves to England, that's not really a problem.

[00:10:52]And I I would assume I hope your English viewers you know are not going to be mad at me for saying this but I think migration from Afghanistan, from Pakistan, from Somalia, from I guess partially also from India, this is something that has to be reduced because the point is not just economics. I know I know that that you know particular Indian migrants are economically very successful and good for them but the English want England to be English and not Indian even if the GDP is slightly higher.

[00:11:17]>> Yeah. But also the Indian immigration that we used to get like for example the East African Asians who came from Uganda uh during id's time they were all business people they came and they started running post officesarmacies you know they were they were salt of the earth and they were actually conservatives as well which was interesting whereas now when you when you wander around London and see the kind of people who have come here from India they're not those people anymore they're the people from the streets of Delhi that I've seen when I was in Delhi you know and they're not coming here with qualifications They're not coming here with with great ideas of how they could run business. They're coming here to work in low paid very lowskilled jobs and that's a very different picture altogether.

[00:11:57]>> No, that's exactly and I think that's a bit the mistake and it's the same in the United States. I understand I don't approve of it but I could understand for a while the temptation to more or less import a new class of servants uh has been very tempting but I think the time for that is over. Uh I mean like I said this this is we know now we know since 1968 you know my cut off point is always an pal because he was like the first one with great approval also by the British people at least what we know from reactions at the time who said okay this is not going to end well this was 60 years ago >> 57 years ago but he was he was in essence he was right and now we have to reverse it I think we have also to speak openly about it that not I hate this oh it's about illegal migration it's the economy no the point is we want England to remain English, we want Ireland to remain Irish, we want Germany to remain Germany. This is to be very clear, this is not hatred against anybody else. If you love your own country does not mean you hate anybody else's. So listen, I want Indians to prosper in India. I want Pakistanis to prosper in Pakistan. I want Afghans to pro to prosper in Afghanistan. I wish them all the best from the bottom of my heart. But I also wish the same to the English in England.

[00:13:05]And there's nothing wrong with that.

[00:13:07]>> No, exactly right. Completely right.

[00:13:09]Great to see you, Ralph, as ever. Thank you very much indeed. And of course, we can only we can only promise that you will be back, right?

[00:13:16]>> I will be back next Friday and I might be in London very soon. So I hope I can join you. I hope >> Yeah, you must you must come and see the studio. You must come and see the studio. Yeah, absolutely. We'd love to have you. Brilliant. Great to see you, Ralph. Thank you very much indeed. Ralph Sham, thank you. Thank you so much. He will be back, of