The Full Pressure Story. Every side, Every lie.

Added: 2026-05-05

[00:00:00]Like, dude, this is literally why I'm trying to tell you. This is just a huge [ __ ] [ __ ] show. Like, it's it's genuinely pissing me off because literally what this is saying is that because they didn't want to be in a relationship with someone, now we're here.

[00:00:24]My name is Gamer Chicken. I run a pressure channel. I covered it obsessively. cinematic runs, challenge videos, update breakdowns. I spent seven months building my own fan game inspired by it because I genuinely loved what the team made. I have made four videos about what happened when it all fell apart.

[00:00:39]Those four videos combined hit over 400,000 views, proving exactly what I wanted it to do, and that spread the right image. I've been called a rapist defender, a coward, and in one particularly weird moment, been put on a spike, stabbed, hung, and put on a cross. This is not a fifth video, and it's very different from all the others.

[00:00:58]Every previous video I made was a reaction. Something happened, I responded. Something new dropped, I addressed it. This one is not a reaction. This video starts from scratch. You don't need to have watched anything I've made before. You don't need any context going into this. You're going to get the full story. Both sides, everything I have, and you can make up your own mind. This is going to be long, and I'm not apologizing for that. Let's start from the beginning. For anyone who surprisingly doesn't know what Pressure is watching this, it is a Roblox horror survival game. It's pretty much just Doors. It is inspired by Doors, SCP, and Ultrakill mainly. What made Pressure stand out wasn't just the gameplay and it was how it was actually made. The soundtrack, the art, the models, everything was AAA quality. Truly something unseen as Roblox and stated by other people, the new age of Roblox horror. And it meant a lot to me because it was also one of my main inspirations.

[00:01:47]That matters because when this all collapsed, it wasn't just a game dying.

[00:01:51]It was roughly 50 people's work in main developers, 450s in total. And also a lot of them were getting harassed for no reason. Artists, builders, programmers, animators, composers, voice actors, all of them were all just getting harassed for truly no reason. But we'll get into that later. Let's start with the story.

[00:02:07]Ren, no longer null, is a composer. The person behind a huge chunk of pressure's most loved music. They are 22 years old.

[00:02:14]They are gender fluid, usually referenced as she her in private talks with Zeal based off of her own permission. Has border nine personality disorder and most of the time will be referred to in this video as they them.

[00:02:23]Zeal, your friend is Zeal, the project lead, modeler, builder, and creator of the game. 6 years of work, autistic. He discloses this himself in his counter document and says it makes reading social skills difficult, which is definitely true. There is also Zerum, the writer and lore contributor, and Cat, also another writer and lore contributor. There is also Giani Matagrano, a voice actor for Sebastian, the main human character, also known as the main face as pressure, as it is a very notable figure. These are not going to be who this conversation is limited to. However, they will be our main people. The relationship before RDC. Ren and Zeal had known each other for quite some time before any of this happened.

[00:03:00]She had worked as a composer on his team. Professional relationship this that both accounts became something more personal over time or as a normal person would say just love. They knew each other for quite some time now. Here's where I need to flag something important. There's been a lot of back and forth online about when Ren left the team and why. And here's what I can actually confirm from the documents.

[00:03:18]From Zeal's counter document, he states Ren left in May 2025. He says it happened in a group chat and came across berating the team and wanting to be let go rather than just resigning. He says he no longer has access to that chat. He also notes that at the time Ren posted a tweet on her own account saying she had just left on her own accord. Well, Ren's document says about the departure is more about what happened after the team blocking her from servers treating her as done. The exact reasons she chose to leave aren't fully detailed and publicly available at this time. What they both agree on though is that she left and she was no longer a formal employee after May of 2025. One important detail that Zil covers in his counter document even after she left. He kept her on the group payout percentage. His reasons she wanted her to be properly paid for the music coming on the upcoming update. He says she was informed that she would be removed from the payout when the update released. He also kept a door open in case she changed her mind because he cared about her having stable income.

[00:04:11]This matters later because when the timing of the update dropping lights up with the situation exploding, some people accused Zeal of rushing the update as a cash grab before everything collapsed. After Ren had left, contact between them continued and something shifted. Zeal developed a crush on her.

[00:04:25]He says this in both of his video and his written document. She was someone he had been fond of for years and after she left the team, things started getting more personal. The animal videos.

[00:04:35]This is one of the first points where the two accounts split hard. Both the sides agree Zeal was sending Ren videos of animals in the leadup to RDC. Zal describes them as cute videos, poor flirting from someone who didn't know how to flirt in the later part. Pretty innocent. Ren's document describes a different pattern. She says the video started innocent but escalated over time into explicitly sexual content. She frames this as deliberate grooming progression, even though we will be able to prove later it is not. Zeal asked about Ren's height before RDC of 2025.

[00:05:01]He's clear in his document. He asked for her height, not rate. Pushing back on how it was characterized, he says it was because he works out and his pride is of his physical strength and he wanted to know if he could lift her. He says in hindsight that he should have done a handshake instead and it would have been more appropriate, but he just had an ego and he wanted to prove it. Ren's reading of this, even though it was quite literally approved, which we will get into later again, is that she was being measured like data collection before something for some reason. Before the conference, Zeal sent messages that referenced wanting to pick Ren up. He frames this as playful, prideful flirting. She had told him he was allowed to lift her and he later did exactly that when they met. She seemed fine with it in that moment, not making any form of saying she wasn't fine with it. Ren's document includes these messages as part of the broader pattern she describes leading up to RDC. And a quick break for anyone here that does not know what RDC is. RDC stands for Roblox Developer Conference. Most of you most likely know this, but as a quick brief summary, it is an annual event hosted by Roblox in San Jose, California. The top Roblox developers, creators, and voice actors, and everyone all meet up in one place for the newest updates and all that fun stuff. However, this is important. Any alleged crimes committed at RDC fall under California law. We will get into that later.

[00:06:10]However, due to his location, that is true. Both accounts describe September 2nd as the first full day. They met Zeal, lifted her, she said she could.

[00:06:18]They spent time shopping, hanging out in a hotel suite with her friends. Ren's document says that this day is part of the timeline leading into what happens next. The sweet moment where Zeal having her head on his lap area while she was emotional is described as one of the first times he put her head there. She describes it as noticing a pattern across two days of these physical positioning moments. However, in reality, taking Zil's document at face value, it was blatantly wrong and rewarded to make it sound worse. Zeal wasn't aggressively playing with her hair. Matter of fact, it didn't happen at all. Ren's head being laid on his chest and not his lap. Just something to simply comfort her at the current time.

[00:06:55]September 3rd.

[00:06:57]Content warning.

[00:07:00]This is the center of everything. What both accounts agree on. Ren was in a severe mental health crisis. She was on new medication. She messaged Jal that she was feeling down. He offered to come over. She agreed. He had came to her hotel room. He held her while she cried for a long time. She calmed down at some point. And then sexual contact occurred.

[00:07:19]That's where both agreed on. Then we get to all the contradictions. After she had calmed down from crying, Zeal says she told him to get more comfortable. Then she asked, "Can I kiss you?" He kissed her. They made out. She says she was smiling, laughing, giggling between kisses. Literally no sign of any form of rejection to such vulgar language warning. He says he did not finger her aggressively. He says he did it slowly, and when she expressed discomfort, he stopped and asked if it was okay. He asked if he could try again and she said yes and he states she was literally guiding him again. Zero form of any boundary crossed. He said he did not force his finger down her throat. In general, there was not even anything else. He does say that his long hair fell into her mouth accidentally. And this is another account of her rephrasing things to make it sound worse and in favor of her document. He says the no moment happened in what he read as a laughly embarrassed tone. Nowhere near the screaming out in pain horrid tone that Ren had manipulated it in text to sound like. He covered up immediately. He says she followed up by implying more foreplay was needed first.

[00:08:23]Not that she wanted to stop entirely and in the end never even hardly said no, just simply started laughing and giggling as something like it was embarrassing. He says he did not say well this is my penis. Yes, I have to say this with a straight face. He disputes that specific line. He says that can't wait for the Google Docs in 5 years. comment was self-depreciating joke about his own poor performance, not a pre-planned dismissal. He was embarrassed and made a bad joke about it, in which, must I say, I was correct in one of my previous videos about that prediction. He says he showered before coming over because it was warm in America. He had been sweating. He hadn't planned to visit her that night. She messaged him unexpectedly. Here is the final table, clearing up everything that was just said.

[00:09:07]The marks are the most important row on that table. Both accounts agree that marks existed. Ren posted photos taken same day as if showing them off. As they were healing after concealer was applied, Zeal did not deny the marks existed. He said they happened because she asked him to kiss and lick her neck on the second night and he didn't know what a hickey was. Fair point. I actually found out a lot of people in my Discord didn't know what that was. So apparently I'm just different. There is documented evidence showing Ren describing the marks to a friend in the morning after his hickeys, calling them a freak and saying he left marks everywhere in what reads as casual, almost amused tone, more as so as a joke. She asked her friend for concealer to cover it up and then after such smeared it off and seemed to be showing it off publicly the same day. Zeal's counter document references all of this along with this video. Ren also left this out as it again can go against her side. Even though you might think someone is perfect, they're obviously not going to remember everything.

[00:10:01]However, the issue is is what seems to have been quote forgotten. All seems to cater to Zil's side. The morning after, after night one, Zil left. He described being embarrassed. His first sexual experience with anyone, and he felt he hadn't performed well, which was reasonable. So, he went back to his hotel. What happened immediately after is one of the biggest points of debate in this entire situation. Ren sent messages after he left. Both sides acknowledged this. What they mean is the question. There was a voice message Rent shortly after Zil left. In it, she sounds relaxed and happy, saying, "It's okay. I don't want you to feel bad about it. You genuinely made my day." In a very comforting voice, she sounds calm, normal, not like someone who just experienced something oh so traumatic and horrible like she just described.

[00:10:41]Zil's counter document uses messages like this as evidence that the encounter was consensual and mutually positive.

[00:10:47]Also, must I note, Zeal's document consisted a lot of Twitter messages in which Ren's document seems to lack. a lot of whether that is because she forgot of such etc is not to be determined but considering there was 6 months in creation that is debatable.

[00:11:05]Bren's explanation for these messages and for the explicit messages that followed over the next week is a fawn response and a postto hypersexuality.

[00:11:13]Fawn response is real. It is one of the four documented trauma responses. Fight, flight, freeze, and fawn. It is when someone who experienced something threatening immediately starts trying to please the person who threatened them to make them feel good to make sure it doesn't happen again to hold on to the relationship. The difference is is when you're doing this that is your mental capability you need to control. If you are failing to give these signs back to the person that is doing such it is no longer their fault.

[00:11:41]Bosole hypersexuality is also a documented phenomenon after a soul particularly when the person didn't process it as an assault at the time.

[00:11:47]Some survivors go through a period of seeking out sexual content or conversation in a way of trying to feel control over something that was done without their full consent. Ren's therapist explained this to her months later. However, again, this still is something that Ren needs to be responsible to control. Both of these are real. They also cannot be proven in this specific case. What I can tell you is that Ren explicitly says she did not process what happened as an assault until 6 months later in therapy. She thought they had something. That's her account. Zeal was running errands with his mom, getting an RDC ticket, having breakfast, and low battery on his phone.

[00:12:20]He was with his mom and didn't want to buy lube in front of her. Very reasonable. It's embarrassing. He suggested Ren to buy it. She was with a friend. He ended up getting condoms himself when he had a moment alone. He already left the store by the time she asked for lube, and all nearby stores would be closed by the time his schedule was done. He was a very busy person, and he chalks this up for shorter messages.

[00:12:39]He includes a message saying lazy ass for not buying it herself as a half-hearted joke and not serious though still something to mention. There was also a key detail Zel raises in his counter document. Red told him that night that she had talked about it with two friends about their encounter and that one of those friends was the one who recommended the lube, not Ren, discovering she needed it on her own.

[00:13:00]Ren's document presented it as her own research. Zeal says this wasn't true and says he knows because she told them in bed. Both accounts described this as more deliberate. Condoms and lube arranged both of them aware of what was likely going to happen and it was still consensual all the way up to this point so far. Zeal describes this night as fully consensual throughout. Taking it at her pace, kissing, taking off clothes, talking. She asked him to kiss and lick her neck. Literally again, the opposite of not being consensual, which resulted in hickeys he didn't intend to leave because he didn't know what a hickey was. Nothing of the other type happened, must I say no more. She asked to um bring him to completion manually and he let her. Man, this is so [ __ ] hard to read all this crap. Jesus Christ. They cleaned up, took a shower, and he asked him to spend the night, which he did. In the end, on Zil's account and this entire story, even with a few missing details in which I just simply will let you to fill in as they're pretty obvious, it is entirely consensual. He says it was that night she told him she'd talked down to two friends about their first encounter.

[00:14:01]That's how the lube suggestion had come up. He says he was sad about it but decided to look past it. Ren's count describes the second night as a second assault and during contact she didn't want very contradicting with what you just said. The marks left on her neck.

[00:14:16]She describes the morning after as seal joking about the hickeys with the line devs get no [ __ ] They won't know what this is. While she was humiliated in which in Ren's document the context was put at an entirely different time making it sound worse. Even though it's a very crude and more vulgar joke, it is infinitely better than what it was made out to be. The evidence document also includes messages from Ren to a friend in the morning after. She refers to the marks as hickeys, calling him a freak in what seems to be a playful tone. As for concealer and at one point appears to be wearing them out in public rather than hiding them. This is documented. It is one of the things left out of friends document. Again, both sides of this are the material. The marks are real. How they got there and what they meant is different. And along with even including how they got there is different. The Roblox Innovation Award wards September 6th. Z was there with the pressure team.

[00:15:03]He and his teammates for the most of the night on his phone. During this period, he got word from a mutual friend that Ren had told six people about their encounters. Even after he had specifically asked her not to, which he already had before. He was angry and disappointed. He messaged her telling her to stop talking to him. She started calling. He didn't answer because he was busy. He put his phone down and turned it off. He did not know what happened on her end. Ren attempted to take her own life at the Roblox invasion wards that night. She survived. Police were called by a friend who was scared for her. Zil says she did not find out until after he returned home to his country. The evidence document includes messages from that night. Ren threatening to find and punch someone, escalating into explicit suicidal attempt. Friends desperately trying to reach her. And really, it all just makes no sense as of right now.

[00:15:47]It's all just clutter and noise from everyone's perspective. When Zeal found out, he reached back out to her. He says he still had feelings for her and wanted to be there for her along with even more catering messages and explanation to that it didn't seem like it was supposed to be. He had simply gotten mad. After RDC, they moved to private Twitter accounts to communicate. This is where Zal's counter document is the most detailed and honestly the most impactful. He has a full transcript of their Twitter conversation from this period. He concludes it with an 18 plus warning. The messages from Ren in this period are explicitly affectionate and sexual referencing their time at RDC's in way. on the surface make it very much look like she enjoyed it. She describes specific things. She says things like she liked his tongue in her mouth and couldn't forget how it tasted. She sends audio messages and she asks explicit questions leading into this insanely hard. Zeal's argument is simple. Someone who was assaulted would not be sending these messages a weeks later. Very reasonable for someone to think. Ren's explanation. She didn't know she was assaulted yet. She explains this clearly. She didn't process what happened as an assault until 6 months of therapy. She thought what they had was real. The hypersexuality she experienced in this period is something her therapist later identified as a trial response. During this time period, Zeal was learning more about how Ren had apparently behaved with his team members at RDC, harassing them in person, following their group around, tearing up a sticker she had asked for and then gloating about it. He says he was also told that she had been horrible to his friends in DMs before RDC. he describes deciding to slowly distance himself using what he calls the gray rock method he was recommended becoming less responsive less warm so the relationship fades rather than getting cut off abruptly he says he was afraid an abrupt rejection would cause her to hurt herself again proving he cares the document or the present April 8th 2026 Ren published her document 6 months in therapy before she published it 6 months of processing understanding and building out of that timeline she also says that she reached out to others who had experienced similar things with zeal before publishing. Nearly 300 pages, 235 screenshots, a full timeline, physical photo evidence of the mark. And importantly, her own worst messages included and explained. Every message that looks bad for her, she includes herself and gave the context.

[00:18:01]Or so were led to believe. Because if someone shows a few messages of their bad side, it would sound more believable than none, which also means there can be way more. But this isn't something someone building a fake story does.

[00:18:16]Someone building a fake story removes the evidence that complicates it. The document spread everywhere within hours.

[00:18:21]The community response. 12 hours. That's how long it took for the verdict to be in. Guilty. Burn it down. No counter statement. No waiting. Just immediately everything on fire. Developers who had nothing to do with any of this. Artists, programmers, builders getting harassed.

[00:18:34]Slurs, death threats. People who spent years on this project getting attacked by the exact community they built it for. Giani, Sebastian's voice actor, publicly quit in support of friend.

[00:18:42]Ellie, one of the programmers, posted what she turned out to be her first and last update. Cubism, said they regretted ever working alongside Zil. Artists revoked their designs. People left, and while all that was happening, someone leaked the entire pressure acid library.

[00:18:54]Every model, every texture, every piece of work from roughly 50 people and 450 plus in total, dumped publicly online.

[00:19:01]And the replies were jackpot and holy gem. Wow. Let me be clear about what that is legally. Distributing a multi-million dollar game's assets without permission is copyright infringement, especially with something of this size. Damages under US copyright law can hit up to $150,000 per work infringed. A game with hundreds of assets, do the math. The person who uploaded that is looking at potential financial destruction. And I'm pretty confident it's not going to be potential. They did it to punish one person by stealing from 450 in 12 hours with no other side. also doing exactly what Ren didn't want doing, and that is bringing the game into this, which for some reason was the only thing people could think about. While Zeal was trying to write his counter document, which he had only 24 hours to do, and Red had 6 months, people put laughing tracks over his footage, broke and handled the pressure. He is with Tong Tong now.

[00:19:53]Zil's POV, a hospital bed. We got Zeal going down before GTA 6. A real person reading these in real time while his friends were leaving him is not a very good environment to be needing to vouch for yourself in when everything is against you. Nobody waited. Nobody asked for another side and nobody paused for even a second. I have killed myself. On April 9th, Zil posted a video. The title was I have killed myself. An hour and 30 minutes long. I watched every second of it. I need to be clear about what you're looking at. It's not some crazy response with a lawyer or a script. It is literally him like he usually does alone on camera recording his desktop with a notepad in what we can only assume is Subia's bedroom or whatever office he is in >> and I will then be going upstairs taking a kitchen knife and slashing my wrists.

[00:20:42]Completely falling apart in real time.

[00:20:44]His mother is in a few rooms over in the same building. He had to lie to her to keep recording.

[00:21:16]He opens by saying he had been writing a counter document, going through Ren's document line by line, and then while he was writing, his friends started leaving. His teammates started leaving.

[00:21:24]People he'd worked for with years started sending him messages telling him he was disgusting. his friend of eight years, someone he had literally talked to that morning about getting a YouTube play button, called him disgusting, told him to kill himself, and blocked him.

[00:21:35]And you might be wondering, well, if he did this, isn't this reasonable? Well, even if it is an extent, you're not entirely wrong. But the difference is, is this still entirely one-sided? No one knows the other side, and they have all acted. He goes through his account of what happened. He addresses the kiss, she asked him. He addresses the wet hair. He just showered. He addresses the blocking. He was still in love with her and couldn't bring himself to do it. He addresses the Google Docs comment self-depreciating joke about his own terrible performance. Not a plan. He then runs the rest of the video, nearly an hour, apologizing people by name and his mother in Danish.

[00:22:10]>> All of my fans and my and my employees and my friends and my voice actors for helping me get this far. To the voice actors, to Giani, sorry for dragging him and ruining his association with the character, to Fitzy, to Arty, to the artists, to the builders, to the skin modelers working on the next update, to everyone. He apologizes for going over budget and says he had money coming from the Sebastian plushy revenue that he was going to pay the newer programmers. He says he won't be around when it arrives and that he's sorry >> to keep going because I know what's going to happen when I stop recording.

[00:22:50]He apologizes to his mom who is right outside that door who he had to lie to just keep recording. I really hope I don't [ __ ] it up because if I do, I'm going to have to wake up and see everyone's reactions and I don't want to see that. That's what he wants.

[00:23:13]And then the video ended. We were left in limbo. No update, no confirmation, just an hour and 30 minutes of someone saying goodbye to every single person he had ever worked with and then nothing.

[00:23:23]It just kept going and the harassments just got worse. The his comments on this exactly were disgusting. Literally no one at this time knew he was alive. He's alive, hospitalized, receiving care, and his mother confirmed it. And while he was in that hospital, this is what was happening online. It's okay, guys. He's with Tong Tong now. Precious music playing in the background as a joke on a hospital bed. Bro couldn't handle the pressure. When you low-key want to hate and all the comments are hating, too.

[00:23:55]Laughing emojis. A laughing track inserted into clips of a man saying goodbye to his mother. Very much knowing what came next. Quite literally, not even able to say it with his own words and needing to write it on a notepad.

[00:24:08]>> I had to lie and say that. We got Zeal going down before GTA 6 like it's any form of joke.

[00:24:19]I hope he's with one of the tree people from the Banlands referencing a pressure entity because that's funny apparently.

[00:24:26]And then this one. I'm not going to read it exactly as it was written. Zeal uploaded an hourong video just to record himself into a microphone and making no moves to even defend himself.

[00:24:39]He defended himself for an hour and 30 minutes alone on camera while his friends were abandoning him in real time and random people were telling him to die. That's not making no moves. That is literally him giving up on his entire life. A real person in a real hospital after a real suicide attempt and you made it a meme. Another person says, "A man standing alone, even against everyone, will still try to defend themselves. Not only is that not true, but what does Zeal have left, as stated by him, to defend for?" That's why the document never came to be. Every single person who posted those memes were participating in the suicide attempt.

[00:25:23]Not in a metaphorical way, literally. He was watching those responses come in. He said in the video, "He was scared of waking up and seeing everyone's reactions. He watched them in real time." and then he tried to end his life. You didn't do anything directly, but you handed someone a reason. And most of you hadn't even finished watching the video before you started.

[00:25:40]My community's response. Before I get into Zil's written counter document, I want to address some of what's been said about my own videos on the topic because it perfectly demonstrates exactly what I'm talking about. The following you are about to see is going to be responses to the two previous videos on the still one-sided situation directed at me. Oh man, what could I use to clean my window? Insert video of Zil crying. My friend told me I was in a video without my username censored and I have had a severe uptick in harassment on my account because of it. # very odd. That dude's an [ __ ] >> Holy [ __ ] >> What? He's an elite rage baiter.

[00:26:25]Community does not equal developer. you uh yeah, not pointing at any one of you, specifically at this YouTuber. Um, so you didn't watch the video either.

[00:26:36]>> Yeah, they might be a rapist, but you were leaking the asset studio of them and the dev who was also conflict by keeping their mouth quiet through bribe.

[00:26:45]>> And that's worse. All right. Well, must I say, not only is that entire bottom section entirely wrong, because again, the situation isn't even resolved, but also the video quite literally never said that. It was supposed to be about the community. Look, he's going to talk about how much the game meant to him, completely ignore Ren, and then lecture the community on how they ruined Pleasure. Did we Did we all just miss the point where this is supposed to be about the game, not the situation, cuz I didn't want to talk about it. And I also quitely put a summary on the screen. Did Did we forget about this? You may have assaulted someone, but you're mean, and that's worse. You literally wanted someone to You just You just straight up gave death threats to someone on a situation that wasn't even fully resolved. I hate to inform you. To both of these people, we then again apparently entirely miss the section where the community did its part in this. And this person is not exempt from this group. Yeah, I told you I wasn't [ __ ] joking about the two-minute people. I swear to God. Oh, hey, look, it's you again. I'm just not even going to make a comment on this one. Yet another person missing the entire point where, you know, we decide to go into game files and ruin the entire game and its playability, by the way. Now, I'd like to know I did not ignore them at all, by the way. We just made him into the next Charlie Kirk, guys. This is such a better take of perspective. Yeah.

[00:27:53]Um, okay. Never said he was innocent. Can we get everyone to just like go cheer this person on? I really like this person.

[00:28:00]Could have sworn there was some other issue involving the community, but I just can't quite put my finger on it, you know. Glad to see you're very supportive of um the developers as you act you are. Yes, I love listening to Zeal in Danish apologizing to his mom for slashing himself apart and killing himself.

[00:28:18]Cool kid remix. This is a view of only the third video of the series. There is a lot more on this which I honestly find way better and way more stupid. So, if you really want to go see those stupid people, go click the little card on your top right of the screen and you can go watch that because um they're pretty stupid. But when's the fourth video?

[00:28:35]Well, a lot of idiots on the community got mad I didn't censor their names when they sent me death threats and harassed me even though it's all public. So, let's see what these sperm cell brains have to say about that because you never change. Oh. Oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, God, that's a lot. Oh, oh, it doesn't stop. Oh, oh, how can this many be this stupid? If you want to read all of these, check the fourth video.

[00:29:07]I'm not joking.

[00:29:09]And before we get into that, let me clear something up. I don't delete comments. Jingle, jingle. No, no, no.

[00:29:16]This is for the people that don't watch my videos. Jingle jingle. Stay here.

[00:29:19]Apparently, that's a thing now of me deleting comments. People think I'm sitting here deleting thousands of comments supporting Ren. I can barely keep up with responding to them. And by barely, I mean I respond to under 5% of them. You really think I'm going to go through over 10,000 comments just deleting them one by one? I have a life.

[00:29:40]Please. So, I actually looked into it.

[00:29:44]Turns out that YouTube moderation was filtering comments automatically. The ones people claimed were being quote deleted most likely never existed and were getting caught for a reason. And once people realized they couldn't actually prove anything against me, they just made it up saying that I deleted comments because it's the best thing they could come up with and people believed it instantly. That's whatever.

[00:30:04]It's Twitter. Did we really expect much better? What actually bothered me was me seeing someone I looked up to zero believe it too. Even mocking my name over something that just isn't true.

[00:30:15]That one sucked, not going to lie. But I'll still mention them here. Maybe they see this, maybe they don't. It is what it is, but I know which answer I'm hoping for. Now, let's get into what you're all here for. The comets, the people, and of course, our guest star, Brand. At this point, Brand is basically a reoccurring character on this channel for all the wrong reasons, of course, with their third appearance. Quite impressive.

[00:30:43]I'm high on autism.

[00:30:51]Such a [ __ ] show.

[00:31:02]So [ __ ] bad, dude. Holy [ __ ] I I wanna I wanna I'm so tempted to put a message that says my balls are now deep fried.

[00:31:17]Yeah, he's got to spend time making another [ __ ] video. Have to revive his server after it being blown to bits.

[00:31:25]Oh, hey chicken. How you doing? No, I'm not. This is absolutely a [ __ ] show.

[00:31:30]Pedophile. One year age gap. How does that make sense? Where the [ __ ] did they get that from? From their ass. They pulled it out of their ass. If they even have one. Who led this attack? Cuz they This is quite possibly the worst attack I have ever seen.

[00:31:51]I ate a habanero chicken. Chicken chick.

[00:31:55][ __ ] OH, I'm shivering in my boots.

[00:32:04]Hm.

[00:32:05]>> It's just entirely wrong. What this person say specifically? Ah, yes.

[00:32:08]Pedophile, biased [ __ ] Delete comments. So, everything's wrong here.

[00:32:14]Clearly siding with wrong. And make sure not to include your Discord next time. I will. And then this person very much responds with this image, which [ __ ] perfectly represents it. And this person says, "By the way, they're banning and joking with anybody who disagrees with them supporting Zeal and the Discord made a burner just to get in." Oh, lovely. You should probably document this. All right, I'll go document all the gore and death threats and assassination attempts you have sent me.

[00:32:41]H also said that cat needs to be forgiven. Wrong. That didn't happen.

[00:32:48]Come on, guys. A sexual predator to die rather than a sexual predator. What?

[00:32:54]Also, the [ __ ] you mean genuinely? These people can't be real. What do you mean predator? I think they put their full dedication into defending rapists. Okay.

[00:33:02]So, we're we're just we're just doomed as a society.

[00:33:08]Oh, hey, that's me.

[00:33:11]He also, yeah, I got one of your tweets in there, Mr. You're You're the one I said whatever gets you into [ __ ] heaven. The grace John Grace praying.

[00:33:21]This This one was [ __ ] hilarious.

[00:33:23]He's either going to delete it like the rest. Yeah, I'm going to delete your comment like the rest, dude. Totally not cuz my YouTube auto moderation didn't like you guys slurring at everyone. And yes, so others see and call me the worst things ever. You said it [ __ ] I'm going to labbotomize myself in both eyes. How? Why? It's not even that funny. Apparently, we have undercover zeal agencies and their replies and um gay people. I'm gay society. Okay, that one developer who plays the victim all the time. I played work at a pizza place when I was 12.

[00:34:01]Do you genuinely just like say [ __ ] that you just think of? What is that? Sorry for being inactive today. The seal glazers got my ass. Not kidding.

[00:34:22]You know, something gives me a feeling that this is why your comments were deleted.

[00:34:35]Hey, um I don't know if you've seen this, but Rand just reposted this.

[00:34:42]Got tired of swinging this to me, so I decided to crucify him.

[00:34:47]Yes. In the wise words of Rand, doing Lord's work.

[00:35:01]Zeal should kill himself. Get so hard that I pass out. And then Rand also says, "I saw someone in my reply saying that sexual assault is rape and I got really irritated even though just a few seconds ago they just would not shut up about it being rape." Huh. and also randomly decides to correct themselves.

[00:35:22]I would genuinely love to fullheartedly show all the idiots in here because this is literally just the tip of the iceberg. I showed you maybe around 30 in total out of I could only guess 300 plus of these I responded to. So, um, if you want to check those out, watch the third and fourth videos because that is where it's at. All these people were not only wrong, and if you'd like to see how horribly wrong, you can go check out those videos, but it also directs all the harassment, exactly what Ren didn't want, at me when this entire time I was neutral. And a lot of the time people were just saying [ __ ] Those are all the ones that are in the previous videos, however. But don't forget, there's always new ones, even on the two videos I made addressing them, because they just never stop.

[00:36:22]Honestly, Zeal's cash cow going to [ __ ] is the best possible scenario. Now his legacy is ruined forever.

[00:36:32]Oh. Oh, but this was never about zeal, huh? Oh, don't think I didn't notice.

[00:36:38]You were just mad that your golden egg supply got cut off. And no matter what you do, it's never coming back. You don't care about Rem. You do not care about Zeal. All you care about is uploading another playing with the developers video.

[00:36:53]I find it quite flattering that we've gone to extensive making videos on me, but I hate to inform you that a Roblox pressure themed channel is going to upload Roblox pressure themed things.

[00:37:07]Like what you're kind of saying here is just imagine if Sketch, the guy that makes all those Roblox videos, just randomly decides to like, I don't know, upload a historical video. That's kind of like what you're trying to tell me to do. And >> yes, chicken harassment is bad. I agree fullheartedly with that and yes I do agree with people leaving the team in support of REM is a good thing but your videos are supposedly about how the community judges way too quickly but by the looks of things not only have you not bothered to consider that like yes a [ __ ] course people would be sympathetic nor willing to hear a rapist you made an effort to not censor out people's names it takes more effort to censor them by the way >> people who disagree with you specifically basically encouraging your audience to of let's be [ __ ] for real, mostly pre-teens, to go on to Twitter to harass a bunch of people who they don't even know. You could say, "Oh, don't harass them all you want, but you made a conscious effort to not censor them for a reason. You are snooping down, if not lower than the pressure community, and honestly, that is a disgusting, vile thing to do. You are as bad as them."

[00:38:12]All right. Well, this is a big part to cover. Um, must I say, I'm not talking about the people saying it's piss.

[00:38:19]They're just straight up harassing me. I get the chess master joke, but I'm not trying to be that. And um me just being pity, which you'll see on the next frame here. We'll continue with. So, it's reasonable for me to call out people which are big creators harassing someone. Except for some reason when someone with only 200 followers decides to try to smear my image over a lie.

[00:38:44]I'm being pity.

[00:38:48]No. Then someone in popular terms of 60,000 subscribers decided to just repost a tweet I already saw to their thing and say the most stupid [ __ ] ever.

[00:38:59]Here it is. For clarification, keep that word in mind. He made a few reasonable points in his first video. But needlessly is going back and forth with randoms on the internet to farm views off the situation. Feels weird to me.

[00:39:10]You could have just left it at two videos, man. If you want to wait till far further evidence or conviction, go ahead. Just don't make a bunch of videos off it with clear bias.

[00:39:20]Hold on. Let me just Can't believe I'm about to waste my time trying to explain this to someone. But they not only stated saying needlessly going back and forth with Randons the internet, even though they quite literally posted thousands of tweets within the past month at this point, it literally took me so long to find his original tweet again. He also just says, "The situation feels off to me." Wow.

[00:39:41]Very reliable source. Says it is to farm views. play the sound and also says with clear bias, "Sweet mother of [ __ ] Pearl, do I have to say no more?" I responded to a few people in my free time just simply protecting my image because this is just insanely wrong. But then I was going to just spare this person as it was a side thing until I got notified of this post.

[00:40:05]Oh my god, do I even have to say anything anymore? Look at what they're trying to say. And you might be wondering, well, what were these responses? Well, actually, it was quite professional, but given the response, I will no longer be keeping you out of this sharky Leo YT.

[00:40:34]This person kind of has like a good and bad response. I don't really know.

[00:40:38]proceeds to say, "Motherfuckers doing anything for content." I reply and their response of Atheostan 46 was, "Son, who the [ __ ] are you?"

[00:40:53]Do you see why I make these videos?

[00:40:55]These people can't be real. Oh, well, isn't that splendid?

[00:41:04]Wow, guys. Look how supporting of Ren you all are.

[00:41:12]Slop tuber. I I was going to like let it slide, but dude, [ __ ] you.

[00:41:20]You're [ __ ] stupid. ignored the videos and then just proceeded to whine about it online.

[00:41:27]Dude, please.

[00:41:34]While in the hospital with help from his parents to structure the writing which he discloses, Zil published a formal written encounter document. The actions between me and Ren were fully consensual. The messages from Ren were encouraging in nature both before, during, and after RDC and did in no way indicate any form of displeasure. Ren retroactively decided that our encounter constituted an assault. Once I declined to continue our relationship weeks after RDC, he discloses his autism. My autism causes me to have poorly developed social antennas that it makes me hard for me to read several social signs. I do however understand the concept of importance and consent. People then decided to after this document was posed harass him saying the autism wasn't an excuse. Even though quite literally Ren was leading into everything and even if there was the smallest little speck of something that needed a bit more emotional comprehension power, he could have missed it. And a lot of people say that he's just trying to take advantage of this. Quite literally, while Ren uses the borderline personality disorder as the biggest crutch of all time. I'm not a perfect person. All right. Well, that's true. But in seemingly every part in which where Ren made a snap-second decision, albeit it is true, she instantly points the pin at borderline personality disorder. No, I'm not going to say that's not the reason. It's the fact that the community's response decided to say that he couldn't have something, but she could. He doesn't frame it as an excuse, but in his context, someone with genuine difficulty reading social signals in their first ever experience in a forging country with someone which was insanely misleading, if all of what they are saying and claiming is true, the gap between what he understood and what happening and what Ren experienced becomes huge, but also more explainable.

[00:43:13]Not okay or excusable, but explainable and understandable. On the kiss constant across both this video and the document, she calmed down. She said, "You should get more comfortable." Then she asked, "Can I kiss you?" He kissed her. They made out. She was smiling, laughing, giggling, obviously consensual. On it hurts. He says he stopped when when she expressed discomfort and asked if she was okay. He asked if he could try again, and she said yes and described zero discomfort beyond that. She even guided him. Here's the thing, though. He doesn't directly address the quote as Ren transcribed it. He addresses it in general terms. It hurts. It hurts, said multiple times. According to Ren, it's the most specific but most leveraged concrete quote in her entire document.

[00:43:53]And in his response, considering he only had access to said document, he covers it broadly, but doesn't go quote by quote. Now, even though it is quoted, the first part could mean two things.

[00:44:03]Either Zeal is simply just cutting a corner here for simplicity, or that second part just didn't exist at all. On the post RDC Twitter messages, he shows pretty much everything and how no one was assaulted would be sending these messages weeks later. Even though you could chalk that up to borderline personality disorder and a trauma response, that is Ren's mental responsibility that they need to take care for the update timing. Ren starts to make more spatout responses just before deals document was released, seeming as if they were trying to grasp more people, etc. Even though people can make slip-ups considering the professionalism of the situation and how they acted in the document, it really should be handled more professionally. One thing that was stated is the update timing, saying that it was most likely dropped because he knew the document was coming, even though how would he know the document was coming. Why would anyone warn them? And after confirming with other developers, turns out it was scheduled and just poor timing. His final position is that consent given cannot be retracted 6 months later. This is the most debatable claim. Legally, consent can be withdrawn at any moment during an encounter. What he's most likely trying to say is that she entirely agreed in the moment. If she randomly decides 6 months later, nah, [ __ ] you. I don't want that anymore. You can't just act as if all of it wasn't consensual. That's not how communication works. What wasn't in Ren's document.

[00:45:30]This is one of the most important sections in the video. Shortly after Zeal left on the first night, Ren sent him a voice message. In it, she sounds relaxed and happy. She says she doesn't want him to feel bad and that he genuinely made her day. This doesn't sound like someone who just experienced something traumatic. As we said before, this is something that Seal refers to in his counter document as something that could have been excluded. The morning after the second night, messages between Ren and her friend include Ren referring to the marks as hickeys. In what reads as a casual tone, she calls CL a freak in what seems to be in affectionate teasing or maybe something she was attracted to, even though she quite literally asked for such indirectly. She asked for concealer because she can't go home or go to RDC's showing them. There was also references to her showing them off publicly rather than hiding them the same day and rubbing it off after doesn't seem very I don't want to show it off either. Messages from that night over attempt happened to show her threatening to physically harm the person she believed had told Zeal she had been talking about in their encounter. She says, "I'm going to kill him." She threatens to punch him. She says she doesn't care if she gets deported or arrested. But considering her state was already extreme that night, it can be brushed off. But I'm not going to act like it wasn't included. None of these things we've gone over just now doesn't disprove that something happened in the hotel room.

[00:46:43]The marks are still real that it hurts quote is still unressed by Zeal, the account still has physical evidence attached to it. And given both documents are taken at face value, just like all of you decided to take Ren's, we can come to that conclusion. What it does mean though is that Ren's document is presenting one side and the things left out changed the texture of the story, not the core. But it's a very big difference when amplified. The thing is is if she had come in to the core along with these other details, it would make it seem more like a misunderstanding even before Zeal's response. However, she removed this countering, strictly removing all other parts that slightly plead in Zeal's direction, making it seem like every single interaction he made was wrongful. Here is our final.

[00:47:26]And the thing about Discord messages too, and I want to be very cure on this, is that they're way easier to alter than Twitter messages. Screenshots can be staged. That doesn't mean rens were there are 235 of them forming a consistent timeline. But it's worth knowing that that can happen. Also, considering there was a lot of deleted messages in those for whatever uninterrupted reason. Twitter messages at the volume of what Zeal shares are significantly harder to fabricate. He would have in the time he was in the hospital needed to get online or edit such in which he had no permission to do so. The only resources he had to go with was that message history, Ren's document, and a document editing software. He literally could touch nothing else. After Zeal's counter document, Ren responded publicly in her Discord. On the post RDC messages, she confirms they exist. She's not ashamed of them or specifically the porn or whatever the [ __ ] she said. She explains it as hypersexuality and notes that Zil got her account suspended and had access to those messages while she did not.

[00:48:24]However, there is no actual evidence of that. So, we can't take that as hard as everything else. We can take both documents at face value because they do line up in some parts. However, again, she is chalking this up to something that is her responsibility to control.

[00:48:38]On the document being taken down, she did not take it down. It was mass reported for quote bullying and removed.

[00:48:44]She is revising it, removing material that caused confusion. Her statement on Seal's video. I watched the video he released and I found it utterly disturbing. Hearing him claim to love me or express a desire to me to hold his hand after the violation he put me through is a profound manipulation of the facts. He still refuses to see me as a human being with boundaries. And must I say, she just [ __ ] a bunch of [ __ ] Everything taken at face value here contradicts every single part of this sentence. And I'm not even going to act like that's not happening. Like are we serious? Claim to express her love and have a desire even though she he explains to her of such and really wants to and multiple times. You also wanting such and having a severe connection really and then proceeds to go off her still poorly supported at the time without Zil's counter document and this was simply after the video saying he refuses to see me as a human being with boundaries even though he very much did asking questions etc and making sure she was okay during the process. She also recently stated that she wouldn't be watching the video for her mental state.

[00:49:44]Now, however, considering it had been around 3 days between these incidents, she could have changed her mind or done it advised. However, that does slightly contradict. She says she can't go to court. She said this in her discord directly. She said three countries involved, her country, the US, and Zeal's country estimated legal clause between half a million and a million dollars. She's 22. She can't access the people involved and she is not in a position to file a local report at the time because she was not processing an assault yet. The absence of a police report does not disprove assault. The majority of sexual assaults worldwide actually are not quite frankly reported to the police and that is a documented statistical fact. However, must I say this still could have been handled a way better. If you were so confident you were going to win, you still could have done more on this situation. RDC was in San Jose, California. California penalt code 261 covers sexual penetration without consent. This includes situations of coercion where physical pressure forces compliance while Ren describes if proven fits the definition.

[00:50:45]Potential penalties are 3 to 8 years in state prison. Mandatory lifetime sex offender registration and civil liability on top. But why no charges?

[00:50:53]Three countries intentional sexual assault cases are massively expensive and complex. Ren estimates a million dollars in legal costs. She wasn't processing an assault at the time. So, she didn't file locally. None of this means the allegations are false.

[00:51:05]However, she still could have filed it.

[00:51:07]Now, Zal's mother's legal quote threats.

[00:51:11]She announced legal action against Ren after his hospitalization. Zal's mother made an update taking down the video that Zil posted saying that he was alive in the hospital, etc. Now, a lot of people say that for some reason the Sil's mother message is fake, even though it's very much not. They are a prominent figure that come up a lot of the time. And must I say, as of right now, some absolute [ __ ] idiots decided to mass report and take down Zil's mother's Twitter account, which she used to spread Ezil's response document. Real mature of you guys.

[00:51:36]Silencing the response. Exactly what you claim Zeal to be doing to her. Zil's mother just simply states in which that they're going to take legal action in a profound way, calm over text, that they are simply just going to continue in a more professional way, kind of announcing such. However, Ren just straight up considers it a threat, saying, "Dear Zil's mother, your threats do not intimidate me. Your intimidation tactics do not work." What the [ __ ] The issue is is you can feel, especially with borderline personality disorder, things in the moment, but having to have typed something out is still possible and not wanting to, but also way harder thing to do. But what happened here is she took it straight up as a threat, reacting very spontaneously and barking back almost instantly. She says she would be willing to go to court, but she couldn't find out ways to do so herself, even though she could have done more research. You're not alone on this, right? And then there's the asset leak where civil copyright infringement up to $150,000 per work infringed. Hundreds of assets. Whoever uploaded that is probably going to absolutely destroy Bloodline. Good luck, Jigglypuff, and all the other people I still know. And they stole from 450 innocent people to do it. Giani statement. Giani Mrano quit pressure publicly in support of Ren on April 8th. the same day. He later released a full YouTube video. Brenn described it as feeling like a hug. In a situation full of people making memes and stupid things for likes, Giani just did the right thing. He quit when it mattered. He said something thoughtful when he didn't have to. He didn't have to make it about himself. He handled this better than almost everyone else involved. But you might be wondering, "But wait, didn't you ate it when people acted with no response? Especially considering it's same day." The issue is is Giani was already fed up with Roblox.

[00:53:14]He knows these stupid idiotic smoothrained people exist on the internet. He has a huge reputation to uphold. He can't necessarily risk something. He himself most likely already wanted to stop working with people on Roblox, but also simply had a reputation to upkeep. He most likely was going to wait, or at least I would hope so, in his morals. However, he simply just had to bite the bullet and dip then, or else he was going to get harassed just like everyone else. Giani later took this back and apologized.

[00:53:41]Where do things stand now? As of this video, Brenn is alive, obviously, processing, working on a revised document. and she has a discord community and people around here. Zeal legal proceedings have been announced by his mother and we don't really know where that's going. The original document was taken down by a alleged mass reporting. It is being revised though original is still available through reuploads. Pressure is still up on Roblox functionally dead as a development project. Most of the team is gone. The community is still going and still bickering and still proving my point every single time they say some dumb [ __ ] But one thing I want to say, Ren has been radio silent for over 80 hours after Zeal's response. She was very prominent with her response, but then it just went straight to well, silence. But what does that mean? This is not confirmed. However, me and a lot of other people have theorized that she might be realizing that some holes, if she is in the wrong here and is doing something stupid, might be showing up, etc. However, she states she's making a new revised document, which now that Z's response is out, we think is just going to lead into this fuss more rather than actually taking it professionally by clearing things up on the document you had 6 months to make. Really, we all think it's in reality just going to be damage control, just a bunch more [ __ ] made up to defend her name. But well, we'll have to wait and find out.

[00:55:02]I'm going to be straight with you, not declare a verdict. I'm just going to tell you what I actually think after going through this. Something happened in that hotel room that caused Ren quote lasting harm. The marks were real, the suicide attempt, the awards happening.

[00:55:17]For [ __ ] sake, everything's real from the document specifically. Zeal by every available piece of evidence did not understand what he was doing was an assault. Nor was it actually in the end.

[00:55:27]But here's the thing. Not all of these can be trusted. of taking these documents and everything that has been said at face value must I say not taking a verdict as goes against my own morals and I'm still just waiting if the situation were to end now for say just cut off for no reason I'm not going to act like it's not happening and it's that Ren's story is crumbling sun and moon swings etc constantly crutching odd certain things even though they had 6 months to do such advance all of this isn't professional zeal was in hospital while writing this and there's obviously the advantage of friends writing Ren is able to go through here and everything with Axis and Sil's just here doing his best. I'm not going to pick a side here.

[00:56:04]Obviously, not like I haven't said it already. But if the story were to cut off here, there was something way bigger going on that we don't know about most indefinitely. In the end, I loved this game. I really did. I built a fan game inspired by it. I covered every update.

[00:56:19]It meant something to me. And I watched it fall apart like this because of what happened in which no one had any other side on. It's all gone. And that's not to be said ignoring the situation.

[00:56:30]Obviously, it's the fact that you all acted on something Ren didn't even want to. You all aren't even Ren's supporters. You're simply just people that said, "Let's go. I get to go do [ __ ] on the internet because I can say, "Oh, but it's in defense of someone that got sexually assaulted." It's really just [ __ ] stupid. I have now made five videos about it. I didn't want to cover it. And a lot of stupid people on Twitter say, "Oh, well, why cover it?" Well, you're not going to believe this, but this isn't milking. I make no content or revenue. A lot of stupid idiotic people said I'm apparently going back to my quote golden egg of my game when in [ __ ] reality it's called a niche. What do you want me to do for say Markiplier for some reason has insane allegations against his wife or some [ __ ] and then he randomly decides, "Oh yeah, I'm just going to upload uh an entirely irrelevant video from gaming about um I don't know, some bombing that happened in the 1800s. Uh, I'll [ __ ] know. Yeah, that's what you're really saying. You would never believe that a pressure themed channel would cover pressure. I know. Truly insane. And just to make this clear to the idiots on all platforms, it's that I still take no sides. I'm allowed to say my current opinion and the current verdict. This is a story I'm telling. Grow up, please.

[00:57:47]Not like most of you will see this anyways cuz none of you watch my videos.

[00:57:50]It's both run and zeal. I am not directly as of right now, especially not because of my morals. just attacking anyone. Whatever it turns out to be, I hope you both get help. And more specifically to every developer, artist, animator, composer, programmer who had literally nothing to do with this.

[00:58:06]Anyways, I'm sorry. And yes, I have to say this and not the hundreds of thousands of people that actually did such. And to everyone else that actually, you know, was reasonable, you actually thought you could have disagreed with my videos for whatever reason. But to the people that, you know, were grown adults and didn't put me on a cross, you know, thank you for at least being mature. And this is all I really have to say because it's the truth.

[00:58:47]Heat.

[00:58:59]Heat.