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I'm here with the infamous flat earth Dave. So, thanks you for coming.
>> Thanks for having me. Looking forward to this conversation.
>> Yeah. So, right now we're doing a podcast later, but right now we're going to watch this video that you made. Says Artemis balloon rocket. So, should we go ahead and just start it or >> Yeah, real quick. Uh there's um a lot of ways they fake rocketry and some of the big rockets that take off are literally blimps that are being put up in the air.
NASA controls 95 or 99% of the world's helium and there's a reason for that and uh we're just going to look at some of the evidence and you can make up your own mind.
>> Yeah, this is something I've never seen.
I've never heard this theory even. This is completely brand new to me. So go ahead and play it.
>> I'll let you know if you convince me at all.
>> So we're really supposed to believe this thing. Turn.
>> This flying scrapyard weighs millions of pounds and is heading off into space.
Take a good look. You've got what look like PVC pipes.
>> All right. So, this is a closeup of the Artemis rocket. Look at these right angles here. That that pipe goes up the whole side of the rocket. You got those square things that are sticking out.
Now, this thing is going to go Mach 33.
That's what they which is crazy. The SR >> That's really fast.
>> Yeah. The SR71 Blackbird, which is right here.
>> Yeah. Look how smooth it is. Like I'm not an expert on this technology, but I know like you said, you look at that and you look at that. That's not what they do.
>> It's a razor blade. It doesn't have any paint on it because it would burn off cuz it gets so hot from the friction.
But this thing this thing is going to go 10 times faster than it. So it's it's No, it's absolutely insane.
>> I said I not it's not my field, but I know aerodynamics, they make them just like you said, the black plane. They wouldn't put that on there.
>> You see the block down the side there?
Imagine putting that block on the wing of the It would rip the wing right off when that thing's going full speed. the the SR71, >> but that thing doesn't look >> right. It it can't turn left, right, up, or down. That's a problem, too, for the curvature of the Earth. But it can't turn because it'll break apart. But look at the bottom of here. What What is that? What's their argument for why it's not aerodynamic? When people ask that question of why it's not designed like like the rocket, some of them are designed like all sleek.
>> They don't they won't they just don't even answer it.
>> Don't even answer. Yeah. And and look at this. It's saying that is that aerodynamic? No. Is that like what is that?
>> Well, I said I would love for someone to explain this to me because this again I'm an expert on this but I can look at this and see this is not how they design things. Anything else that I've seen this year if I was doing something aerodynamic it would not be this. It >> it's absolutely in and they only showed this for maybe one one and a half two two and a half seconds maybe.
>> So you basically kept it on here.
>> Yeah. So I downloaded it right away um as it was going. So again think about that. Hold that piece of fabric outside your car at 55 miles an hour.
>> It's going to rip. It's going to shred.
This thing's going 25,000 miles an hour.
>> What would it even do? What would be the purpose of having that?
>> I don't know. I don't know. So, this one, if you hear the audio, this is back in the space shuttle days. We're good.
Um the and they're they're saying the astronaut on the shuttle is filming the um the external tank falling back to Earth. Now, that external tank is made of steel, empty. It weighs like 20,000 lbs. So that thing is free falling back to Earth. That's problem number one.
>> 20,000 lbs allegedly as free falling >> and it's free falling. But the problem is that's not coming from a stationary camera. That camera is on the shuttle which is going 25,000 miles an hour in the other direction. You can't compute how fast something would just disappear.
>> No, I mean, >> yeah, >> it looks slow. It's the first time seeing this, but it looks odd that it's just kind of floating.
>> So, and people like, well, NASA how they deceive us. Look, I could see the curve of the Earth. So, uh, another flatearther made this, and I use this in an interview with these NASA fanboys, and they swore they saw curvature, but I just showed them this is our front yard with a solar panel.
>> So, it it's so easy to um make people believe things because we want to just believe.
>> Well, you're also trust the experts.
Yeah, >> you're always told to trust the experts.
That is How big is that tank supposedly?
Cuz >> that tank is gigantic. It's like 10 stories tall or even bigger. I forget the But look at the pipe going up the moving.
>> Yeah. And it's the same on the It looks just like the Artemis. Now, is that 20,000 lbs falling back to Earth?
>> It looks like it's going sideways to me.
>> It looks like a Macy's Day Parade balloon to me.
>> Yeah, it kind of does.
>> It's just floating. And I'm going to in a little farther in here, we're going to compare it to um some blimps. But here's Felix Bombgardner from the Red Bull Jump.
>> Look how fast he disappears. And now that camera isn't going 25,000 mph in the other direction. Now, now this is larger, but that's still the difference is still >> I think it would fall faster. Yeah, it would fall faster. Well, I'm saying you could see it more because it's larger, but it would still I would agree that it would still disappear. I agree that's not how it should look.
>> So, this was from NASA um NASA's live stream and watch on the right hand side.
The arrow is going to show it.
>> We saw something go by and we we we captured the video and we slowed it down and here it goes. What >> what was that? So, I'm going to slow it down. So, to me >> Oh, that's weird looking.
>> It looks like a some sort of quad copter. like some sort of, you know, like a like a drone style aircraft, >> like a drone spaceship type.
>> Yeah. Well, this is in the atmosphere.
This is just above the clouds, as you can see, or possibly even below the clouds, depending on how they're filming it. And so, I'm going to turn it sideways. I'm going to change the contrast and we're going to take a closer look at it. Now, we put this out to NASA. We put it out to everybody, you know, like tell us what we're seeing.
What is this? Again, silence is the only thing.
>> You can't get a response from them.
>> No, absolutely not.
>> Yeah. So, I like to always see both sides of every argument. So afterwards, I'll try to look up the counter arguments, but they they don't really give a counter argument to this.
>> Well, now they'll just say, "Oh, it's AI. You did that." You know, it's not on our website anymore. Therefore, you >> brilliant part about AI.
>> They'll tag videos like I had a video that was 100% sure files and they they did it started saying it was AI eventually got taken back after I showed it the files.
>> Yeah. So, what is this? So, the my it's that's bizarre.
>> My guess is that it's some sort of blimp recovery because the thing isn't going to just fall back to Earth. They just got their filming done and now they're cleaning up the set.
>> This is an older video, correct? This is back. So, this isn't like when they had AI and stuff. This is like >> Well, that's We didn't know about AI back then. They they had AI.
>> That's true. But but we didn't. Like you you didn't.
>> Yeah.
>> So, I don't know anything about blimp coverage. Those things come in and basically >> I don't know either. I'm just like that's the only thing I can guess that it is. Or maybe it was towing it or something. So, this is um this is uh just another one of Musk's um Elon Musk's rockets. It exploded. Like, what's in there? Now, this is the space shuttle. Um the external tank for the space shuttle. That's the space shuttle right there. So, you see the shuttle on the back. You got the external tank. I contend that that is a lighter than the air vehicle with some fireworks on the bottom.
>> So, you think it's like a blimp that pulls it up super high at it. It gives it lift. It has a little bit of thrust.
It goes over. It goes down range and it disappears into the Bermuda Triangle.
>> Interesting. I've never heard this theory.
>> Yeah. So, it um there's uh I I have tons of videos on it. I have an app which uh gives you all this information, but I have a section called balloon rockets and uh you know, it's some people like, well, I've seen it launch. Well, how close were you when you saw it launch and what did you see? And they they sometimes use holograms, sometimes they use miniatures. What we see on TV is different than what you see in purpose in person. Um yeah. So the way do they have it designed is it supposedly like that's the tank and then the rocket shoots up from there.
>> Well the way it's supposed to work >> how they claim it works.
>> So the the the engines are below the shuttle and that's just feeding fuel into them and when that's extend when that's um spent it ejects it.
>> So that supposedly fuels it up. Fuels it up and pushes it >> and then it dumps the tank. So remember these guys are filming this >> and it's it looks like it's floating >> as they're going in the opposite direction at an incomprehensible speed, >> right? Imagine trying to film a car on the other side of the highway while you're going 70 miles an hour in the other direction.
>> You're going like instantly.
>> But that's just 70 miles an hour.
>> Yeah. It's 29 tons of steel free falling. 29 tons. Another weight you can't even imagine.
>> And and I I'll give you this. It looks like it's floating. I don't make my mind up. I take my time uh making opinions on things, but this is this looks like a blimp. It looks like it's floating, but one thing we can rule out is it's not 29 tons of steel falling.
>> It doesn't look like it.
>> Certainly not. I would I would love to talk to one of the NASA guys and hear what he has to say.
>> Can you go Can you go back 20 10 seconds? You have that if you hit the little back button, you know the you hit the L.
>> So NASA guys won't even like talk to you about >> on the there. Yeah. Yeah. You can just jump back. Jump. Jump.
>> No. No. Back. The the one to the left at back. Okay. So now I want you to watch on the left hand side right there. You see that paper that went by? It was like a piece of paper.
>> Yeah, I saw something clearly fall.
>> Yeah, it was a piece. There it goes.
>> What the hell?
>> So, that just shows you how fast this is going. I think it people say, "What is it?" It's a napkin that fell out of the helicopter. The guys that were eating drop.
>> Yeah. So, this thing is not falling and about to burn up. The story is this thing deatomizes before it hits the ground.
>> Wait, so it doesn't even hit the ground?
>> It burns up.
>> And it's a giant metal tankle allegedly.
It's supposed to just burn up before it hits the ground. It doesn't look like it's burn. It's not even smoking yet.
Look how close to the clouds it is.
>> It doesn't seem like something that metal and big would just burn up.
>> That's That was the official story back then. And so I'm just comparing it to some blimps here. Now, are we looking down at this or are we looking up at it?
>> I don't know.
>> We don't know.
>> To me, it looks like it's coasting sideways.
>> Yeah. Well, it's going with the air current >> or could be up like you said. Looking from >> I'm showing a blimp upside down. I'm just filming. I'm filming upside down because you you don't know what direction unless you have ground to look at.
>> Interesting.
>> And uh it looks very very similar.
>> I mean almost identical.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, it's not 29,000 lbs of steel free falling. So here it is putting it in its hanger. That looks like a familiar hanger. These are oldworld blimp hangers. Airship hangers.
>> Looks very similar. So you don't believe we go into space at all?
>> I don't believe we just met. So yeah, I don't you don't think space exists?
>> I don't think space exists.
>> Wow. Crazy guy I'm next to right here.
>> Well Well, you know, we're going to do a podcast and we're going to talk about why um space can't exist.
>> Space doesn't exist. This is going to be fun.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. And so I'm just comparing real video of a blimp compared to, you know, the storing of the um the the shuttle external tank. This is NASA um blowing up one of their balloons, which is the same shape as >> it looks just like a balloon. Yeah. You do lots of videos of this type of thing where you show like weird uh >> things that don't quite match.
>> And here's the thing I tell people this is the NASA blimps. It looks just like like that. It does look just like the bloom.
>> It It is exactly that. So, here's the thing I tell people. If this is new to you, don't believe anything I'm telling you. Don't That's how we got into this problem in the first place.
>> Yeah. You always do lots of research on anything.
>> Tons of research. So, here's the problem is it's just like Google. Like if you Google, hey, are um the COVID shots good for you? Are they going to get all sorts of bad information? So, my website flatearthdave.com, just go there. I have the crash course.
Watch those videos. Google will never serve you those videos and then make up your own mind.
>> Well, yeah, you have to ask the questions, right? I don't want to get into this too much from doing the podcast, but just real quick, I was watching a video you sent me and it was showing how they use cameras that add a curve. And I asked, "Do they do that?"
And he goes, "No, they don't." And then I go in a separate one. I ask, "Hey, I was watching these videos in space and that's the same lens I use that adds the curves." And he goes, "Yes, you're correct. Good, good, good eyes. This is the so- and so that adds the curve."
>> Yeah.
>> So, it's like you have to ask the questions even right if if you ask it for flat earth, they'll just lie to you.
But then it just started going off how it adds the curve. 20 seconds at the beginning of that that launch. So whenever we watch NASA shows us something, they never show us. Go back to the beginning. Just the right there.
Yeah. Right there. So this is 4 million pounds. Now watch. It goes up and then it goes down again. 4 million pounds.
Doesn't go up and down. If you get it moving, it's going to keep on moving.
>> Yeah, that wouldn't make sense.
>> Edit. That's the third edit, right? And then it's like a movie. Fourth edit. Why don't they show us one video? One, five edits. It's barely moving.
>> They do different edits.
>> This is NASA. Every every space launch, you'll see four, five, six edits before it's far past the tower.
>> And then who's getting this side shot?
This thing is accelerating.
>> Yeah, that's at the same same height at that. It doesn't make any sense.
>> Who's getting that side shot? Well, like how are they keeping that side shot?
That thing is is um >> a drone wouldn't be going at the same speed.
>> It's accelerating over 200 miles an hour, increase in speed every 5 seconds.
>> So, yeah, a drone couldn't keep up, right? These are all interesting questions you're uh bringing up.
>> And then um you can turn the turn the sound up on this one. So this thing this this thing is going to u little turn it down for a second. Turn it down.
>> Um so this is going to show you >> the rocket going downream. Now what what did they teach you in school about sound versus light? One's slower than >> light. lights faster than >> Right. Right. So, you can tell how far a storm is by the lightning and then the sound comes and I think it's 5 seconds a mile or something like that.
>> I forget the number is a lot faster.
>> So, so we see the we see the bounce here, but we're going to show um we're going to show you this thing going downwind. So, let's give it a second down range.
We could uh >> What's it doing? It's just like warming up. It just I'm just showing you that it's going up and down kind of like >> that that kind of weight shouldn't drop.
>> You shouldn't be able to move four and a half million pounds >> moving. It should keep moving, >> right? Like if you're lifting if you're deadlifting, you lift up, you're not going to go down and up again.
>> The lift's over at that point. You lift your weights. If you do that, the lift's over, >> right?
>> You're not going to be able to re it.
>> So So edit, edit, edit. And then this is going to go downwind. Now, I'm going to show you this is um if you Google um space shuttle launch um you're going to find the video that I'm about to show you here in a in a moment. Let's just let it get to it. And um there's something very interesting that happens.
So, you have the the the orange tank and you have the solid rocket boosters, which are those two thin bottle rockets on the side. And those they say once those light, they can't turn them off. They have to go until they burn out and then they eject them before it gets rid of the external tank.
>> So those go before the giant one.
>> And so when it goes there's explosive bolts. So let me just see if this is it.
There's explosive there's explosive bolts that blow it off and then this thing at that point is going over 17,000 miles an hour.
>> Wow. So it's going really fast >> again. 17,000 mph. You can't fathom that speed.
>> Yeah. Was planes go like 500 something.
Plane planes 5006 700. The SR71 goes 2300 miles an hour.
>> Wow. That's like the fastest one.
>> That's the fastest one that you can even fathom. So, um, give this a second. I'm showing the balance again here. It's a little bit longer of a video.
>> So, >> 4.5 million pounds.
>> Yes. At launch with fuel. That's for So, here it is. Now, look, they're zooming out. It's making it look like it's going farther than it's going to >> look how how like how look at the smoke and look at the rock where the rocket is. It's not leaving it in the dust. It looks like it's going 30 mph maybe.
>> Yeah.
>> So, turn up the sound. Turn up sound.
>> Go jump back.
>> Going 17,000 mph.
>> What exactly?
It should take 90 seconds minimum.
>> And how are those things going sideways?
They would they are two that still burning the button out through the airing the shuttle for main cut off >> or a hologram. yet. So, this is my I haven't really hit.
So, you are raising X.
>> Jake, here's the thing. A lot of people, well, then how do they do that? How do they do that? Here's the thing. We can falsify something.
>> Yeah, obviously.
>> And falsification is independent of replacement. So, it does like somebody stole the last banana off my counter this morning when I was heading to the airport. I think it was you. Well, wait a minute. You're in Vegas. I'm in Connecticut.
>> How would that falsify? So no one can say, "Well, you have to um prove who did it before I can rule Jake out." So falsification is independent of replacement. So we can falsify the information they give us about rockets, about space, about the globe.
>> I watched them do it during co because yeah, that that's the first time I started like actually looking into this stuff and I'm like, I don't believe that I'm I could see that it wasn't a very serious thing. I don't believe I'm smarter than these experts. I figured they had to be lying to me.
>> You know, a lot of them are fooled. You know, there there's people, you know, some they just believe what they're told from the higher ups. They don't believe the higher. Now, that's what I realized.
The regular doctors, they don't actually process this stuff. They just believe what the experts above them say, but I don't believe the experts at the very top are smarter than me.
>> No, absolutely not.
>> And I don't believe I'm smarter than them. I mean, here's the thing. I think they're lying to me here.
Here's the thing. God gave us common sense. And our common sense is a very, very powerful thing. But people go, "Well, where are your credentials? Where did you get your degree?"
>> They were telling me, "You're not a doctor."
>> Yeah. Well, here's the thing. Where did you get your degree? That how do you get a degree? You memorize and regurgitate exactly what the Rockefellers put in the textbooks >> and then you get your degree. If you don't want a degree, you can question it and say, "No, I have a better idea. I have a better idea." And then you won't get your degree.
>> Well, during co I learned doctors are told just to take take advice from whoever's above them. Like I I lost I had three doctor friends. Two of them stopped being my friends. One actually apologized after CO and said I was right because I was arguing with more of these studies. He's like, "Man, you were really right seeing that stuff."
>> You know, the doctor said, "Well, there's thousands of studies." And uh um I forget who who was a friend of mine.
He said, "Uh, can you show me the studies before you give me this vaccination?" And then he came back and the doctor was like, I couldn't find one study.
>> No, it's rare the doctors would look like I said I had one friend that did look at the stuff. It was way later on.
He was vaccinated first, but came back, man, you were really right about all this stuff.
>> But it's rare. The other two guys stopped being my friends.
>> So, >> well, you know, the the the world has um there's there's people that that are here to wake up. There's people that are here just to be NPCs, if you will.
>> And um you know, you I I spend my energy on the people that are willing to listen and think for themselves. I don't want people to believe me cuz belief is the enemy of >> No. Yeah. I tell people too, don't believe me. Look up everything I'm saying.
>> Yeah.
>> And and I'm learning, you know, I get most things right. Every now and again I might get something wrong. I'm always very careful. Uh where can people find you?
>> Flatearthdave.com. You can find all my stuff there. Follow me on X. Flatthed X.
Most of my like Instagram, Tik Tok, FlatarDave.
Um but everything is linked at flatearthdave.com. You can get my app there. Um if you want if you if you want to just like hold on, I need to see more. Go to my website, flattheave.com.
Scroll down and you'll see a big banner.
It says crash course. Click that. It's just a playlist on YouTube of videos that YouTube will never show you. Watch the first five and YouTube can be rejected by friends and family also because you'll be a flat- earther. And we're we're doing a flat earth podcast.
I hope you all turn me into one of these people.
>> Well, you're you're already one whether you know it or not.
>> Well, because is there so much stigma behind being a flat earther? I had to be like, do I even want to interview a flat-earther? So, so let me let me tell you in 2014 when you say flatearther um nobody everyone be like oh my god you know just make fun I made fun of people just be before that but now it's becoming so common there's so many people um there's millions there's tens of millions of people in America >> there's tens of you >> there's tens of millions you bravo >> yeah well but now now you know the the flat earth is the truth and uh people were it's coming out faster and faster now that you know Artemis took off and uh gave us all so much more um content showing how space is fake. U it's Artemis. I got want to thank you to NASA because they gave us Artemis and it is waking up so many people to um flat earth the old world which we've been talking about.
>> Yeah, that's I've been looking into that stuff. By the way, if anyone's watching this, you're like a NASA scientist or know it and want to come and talk about the opposite perspective, I welcome that as well. I try to always look at both sides of every issue. So, thanks a lot, Dave.
>> All right, man. Thanks. Cool. See you.
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