This video compilation demonstrates various courtroom scenarios where judges navigate complex legal situations, including defendants who challenge evidence, negotiate plea deals, and face consequences for violating court conditions. The content illustrates key legal concepts such as blood alcohol concentration thresholds (0.173 being double Michigan's legal limit), deferred adjudication procedures, probation requirements including substance abuse treatment and community service, and the importance of honesty in court proceedings. The video also covers preliminary hearings, discovery processes, and how courts balance legal requirements with individual circumstances like employment, family responsibilities, and housing situations.
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Defendants Doing the Prosecutor's Job For Them追加:
It is May 21st of 2026 and this is the court gallery.
Today's docket is a wild ride from start to finish. We kick off with a defendant trying to convince a judge that two giant 20 oz canned cocktails are just two drinks after blowing more than double the legal limit. Then halfway through another defendant hearing is completely derailed when her aranged husband sends the court a letter that does her no favors while she's sitting in jail. And we wrap with a defendant on Zoom who decides the best legal strategy is to object to well everything.
including stating his own name, pushing a patient judge to her absolute limit.
You're not going to want to miss a second of today's cases, ladies and gentlemen. And it all starts right now.
Next matter is the state of Michigan versus Alyssa Worm file 26-44288- SD set for sentencing today. Do we have Miss Worm with us?
>> Yes, your honor, I'm here.
>> Could you play turn on your video, please?
Oh gosh, >> I've sent her a prompt to start it.
>> Okay, thank you.
>> All right, I do see Ms. Worm is with us now. This is uh set for sentencing.
I have received a Catholic human services substance use assessment report.
Unfortunately, I've not had a chance to review it yet. Mr. Portier, have you had a chance to review this?
>> Uh, just now, judge. Yes.
>> All right. Give me just a minute.
All right. I've had a chance to review the Catholic human services substance use assessment report, which was submitted by Tracy Wheeler.
Miss Worm, I'm going to give each of the lawyers an opportunity to tell me what they think I should do as a part of the sentencing and then after you've heard what they have to say, I'm going to give you an opportunity to do the same thing.
Mr. Forier, your comments.
Um so judge just noting um that when she met with the evaluator, she indicated that she only had two drinks after work um which were canned cocktail drinks.
Um her blood alcohol in this case was a 173.
Um, and I think the court's very well aware that uh, two drinks, regardless of if they're canned cocktails or beer, uh, or anything like that, is going to be enough to get someone to a.173.
Um, so I think just kind of thinking about her, uh, you know, any sort of potential treatment in the future, she should she should learn to be honest with herself, um, kind of about where she's at. Um, because she, you know, she is indicated in here to have um a mild use disorder.
Um, and I I think that's something that she hopefully should recognize and and think, hey, you know, I'm young enough to to fix this. So, there is a prior, but it's it's old.
Um, you know, we're talking 2001, so 25 years had passed before anything else had happened. I do think the recommendations are appropriate. uh and that being that she remain abstinent from any drugs and alcohol. Uh so I would ask the court order a period of probation, that she remain abstinent, that she attend self-help meetings at least three times a week, um that she attend outpatient substance abuse counseling uh services and follow recommendations of her therapist.
and that she also um complete the Mothers Against Drunk Driving Victim impact panel and the alcohol highway safety class. There is a $345 request for reimbursement to the Gayard City Police Department and I would leave the issue of jail or not jail um work camp versus community service to the court. However, I do think um that something would be appropriate and I would I would suggest somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 to 20 hours um depending on which which one the court's preference is.
>> Thank you, Mr. Forier. Mr. Dick allocation.
>> Uh yes, your honor. So, we miss as Mr. forture said um that she has not had anything happen in 25 years. Um not even a single speeding ticket uh since the incident 25 years ago. Um that being said, uh Miss Worm is a single mother.
She does work two jobs. She has two teenagers. One is in presently in college. Um the recommendations were discussed and she is agreeable to those terms. Um we also anticipate the uh period of probation as is the court's uh usual uh memo. The u that being said, your honor, we would be in agreement with Mr. Forier's recommendations. However, we would ask that the court considers um either it well I guess mainly community service if um if that or work camp and specifically uh an extended period to complete that just because of her work and uh parental commitments. Uh that being said, your honor, we would ask if the court uh considers or would consider possibly reducing fines and costs to allow her to continue to support her family. And that being said, we'll leave that to the court. Thank you, your honor.
>> Thank you, Mr. Dick. Miss Worm, is there anything that you want to tell me?
>> Um and not really. I did have a conversation with Mr. predict this morning. So, we were kind of on the same page that um I would be fine with that.
I accept um the things that I'm going to have to do and will hopefully better myself as well. And I, you know, appreciate still, you know, being able to do what I have to do to support my kids as he says. And I'm totally willing to I've already made the changes. I know I still have to complete the mothers against drunk driving and and know I haven't been to AA yet, but um but I will do all those things if I you know because I have to because I mean I think it would be good as well even though I I mean just to kind of keep in that mindset to continue just not drinking and not making stupid decisions like that and I think that's all.
>> All right, Mr. Chair, >> go ahead.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. I did have um one question when you said mentioned a reimbursement to the Gaylord City Police. I was just curious what that was about.
>> That's the first heard. I think >> the statute allows for the investigating police department to ask for reimbursement for costs incurred in the investigation of the crime. Uh and so the prosecutor asks for restitution, which is what that is. Uh and that's the costs he's indicating that were requested by the city police department uh for their investigation of your case.
>> Okay.
The prosecutor also mentioned uh that the substance abuse assessment puts in quotes that you told them that you had two drinks and canned cocktails. Tell me about those drinks.
>> Um yeah, I did want to mention that, but I didn't want it to sound like I was trying to make excuses for myself. It wasn't per se that I lied to her. Um they're larger there were larger cocktails and like you'd really have to I guess do the math on trying to figure out how many exactly it would equal out to. So that was >> what kind what kind of alcohol is used in the cocktails?
>> Um honestly I'm not sure if it's a it's a if it's a vodka base or what. There's a lot of cocktails that are like that.
They're based with this they say right on them and I don't think it does. I'm not sure but it's >> how how large Smeirnov. Uh oh, sorry. Um like 20 ounce.
>> So you had 40 ounces of a alcoholic beverage. When you say you had two >> Well, yeah, there was part of one still that was why I know that um open and toss got dropped, but I didn't finish it all.
But but yeah, about that. So, I mean, I'm just saying that would explain why it was a little bit of a higher BAC, not because I not because I per se lied, but I do agree that I, you know, to be honest with myself as well.
>> What do you do when you work at uh your employment?
>> Um, mainly serve.
So, you're a not are you a bartender there at Treetops as well?
>> Um, it's it's kind of both, but um I only work daytime, so it's not really like the bar environment, but there is a bar of course, but it's they're mainly serving, you know, serving lunch. And >> do you do the bartending activities or are you just a server?
Um, sometimes I well I do have to do bartending activities.
>> So, do you create mixed drinks or cocktails for the clients for the people at the club?
>> Somewhat, but I I mean I don't really have many people order them during the daytime, mainly beer.
>> In order to be a bartender, you have to understand and know what's in your drinks. So, I I really find it hard to believe that you don't know what was in a canned cocktail, especially if it's called Smeirnoff.
>> Well, like a high noon is mainly vodka based, some are tequila based, and it says it right on the front of the can. I mean, I don't have the can to look at anymore, but um I I would assume it's probably a vodka base. It's like a like a smearing off ice, but it's very similar to that.
So smearing off is vodka. So I'm assuming it's vodka based.
Probably a good assumption.
17 is a high blood alcohol level. In fact, in Michigan, if you're above a 0.17, there's a more serious penalty if you were to be convicted of that. That's how high it is. In fact, it's double the legal limit for drunk driving.
>> Tells you how how intoxicated you were.
>> Why would you who have a prior drinking and driving related offense, why would you continue to drink if you've already had a problem?
to say it was a poor choice. I mean, I I didn't for a very long time.
>> You're right. It was 25 years ago.
>> Yes.
>> But here it is biting you again.
>> Yes.
>> What are you What are you going to do differently this time so that it doesn't come back and bite you again?
>> Well, if I ever have a drink at all when this is over with, I'm never drinking and driving again. Not even a drink or even a sip. And um I'm sure that the the counseling and the and the meetings are going to help probably both in different ways and so that will help with my mindset of it because it's like I've already broken the habit of it. So I just need to keep in that habit and that will help me with that.
Talking to people, being honest, not being ashamed of it, I guess. I mean, it is kind of shameful. I don't want to tell anybody that these things happened.
Miss Worm, here's my concern. It It doesn't sound to me like you have made a decision to say, "I'm not going to drink again."
And you have the right to determine what you want to do with your life. But let me just say this as a judge. One time coming in front of a judge in an entire lifetime should be enough to say that's an issue.
I'm not going to do that anymore. Now, you've done that for 25 years, so I have to give you some credit.
But you're standing in front of me today as a second time convicted person of the same thing and you still have not said to yourself, "This is a problem. I'm not going to do it anymore." You are saying to me, "I'm probably going to drink again in the future, but I'll be careful when I drink."
That's not good enough.
If you are going to be a responsible member of society, especially if you're going to be involved in serving alcohol, you're going to be around it a lot.
That's what you do.
>> And there's nothing wrong with there's there's nothing wrong with that. But you have got to be able to say to yourself, I mean, this is just practical advice.
This is not me telling you have to do this, but you're going to find yourself back here again and it's not going to be 25 years from now and I'm going to have to put you in jail. Do you understand that?
>> I do understand that, but I'm not going to end up back in there again because this is never going to happen again.
>> I'm sure you said that the first time 25 years ago, right?
>> I did say that the first time.
But I've never I didn't have to do any of the other steps, the counseling, any of that. I I was I got an accident, but I didn't have this same. It wasn't It was a different BAC. It was way way lower. It was I don't even think it was So, but I didn't I did not drink and I know I messed up and I don't ever want to end up back in the courtroom. And I think the counseling and the AA will help me. And I don't intend to drink again. I just only meant if I ever happen to have a glass of wine on a special occasion or something like that.
And I'm not saying I will. I was just maybe it'll be a non-alcoholic one because I don't I don't want this to ever happen again. And I didn't. And now I have kids that have to deal with it too and not just me. So it's a lot worse.
Yeah. So, I'm hoping in the future you talk yourself I'm hoping in the future that you can talk yourself into this, but right now you haven't got there yet.
>> And that's disappointing.
You strike me as a an intelligent person. You strike me as someone who's well spoken.
I'm just hopeful that at some point as you think about this, you realize that you're putting yourself and your kids and anybody else that's on the roadway at a high risk simply because you've not made a commitment to say, "I don't need alcohol."
It's shouldn't be that big of a deal.
>> It's alcohol. Good. Then I would hope that you would be able to say, "I'm done. I don't need it anymore. Two times in front of the judge is two times too many."
All right, I'm going to stop preaching.
I just wanted you to be aware of how important I think this issue is and how far from where you need to be. I think you are.
How you deal with it from here forward is up to you. But I'm just giving you fair warning. If you come back in front of me, you are going to jail. And not just for a day or two. So this is this is serious. And I want you to understand the seriousness that you're getting yourself into so that you can take all appropriate measures, which I think should be just saying, "I'm not going to do it anymore." That's entirely up to you. while you're on probation, you can't have it, but you're going to live a whole lot longer while you're off probation than why than while you're on.
So, I wanted you to be aware of how the seriousness of this so that you can make proper choices. All right. Having said all of that, I'm going to put you on probation for six months so that you can have time to make your not drinking a habit again.
There is a $180 probation oversight fee.
There's a $75 crime just justice crime victim assessment. There's a $50 justice assessment. There is a restitution amount of $345 to the Gaylord City Police Department.
There court costs of $300, fine of $150, and local charge of $15.
Let me add all of that up for you.
That's a total of $1,115 that can be paid over the course of probation.
You may perform community service work in le of some of those fines and costs at the discretion of the probation department.
must enroll in and successfully complete treatment and educational programs. The substance abuse assessment recommends outpatient substance abuse treatment and follow all recommendations.
I'm going to also require the prime for life class.
While you're on probation, you will attend self-help meetings with verification of attendance three times a week. You may not consume or possess alcohol or drugs.
You may not enter a business where alcohol is served by the glass except for employment.
That does not mean that you may take home beverages from work.
>> Of course not. I I never have and I don't have a problem seral. I'm at work.
Just I just >> All right. Just wanted to make sure that we were clear.
>> Thank you for not making me quit my job. it it's going to be difficult for you because you're going to be serving alcohol and so you're going to be tempted.
>> So I want that's one of the reasons why I'm going to require you to go to AA three times a week and also take the educational class prime for life uh so that you can keep up uh with your ability to not give into that temptation.
>> All right. I'm also going to require that you perform well what days what's your work schedule I think we may have miss worm what's your work schedule >> can you hear me worm >> okay I lost my I can now. I'm sorry. I'm really sorry. I lost the volume there for a minute.
>> All right. What is your work schedule?
>> Um, generally it is at Treetops 10:30 to 5. Um, Monday through Thursday and then Friday and Saturday I work at Hobby Lobby from 9 to 4 usually.
Well, you're going to have to take some days off because I'm going to impose some work camp days just to make sure that you understand how serious this is.
Work camp is typically 7 to 3 or 7 to 4.
Um, and it's done Monday through Friday.
I'm going to allow you to work that into your schedule. I'm not going to require you to do it in consecutive days, but I am going to give you three days of work camp.
>> Okay? So, three days, but it doesn't have to be in the same week necessarily.
>> Correct. But it will need to be conducted within the next 30 days. So, you've got 30 days to do three days of work camp. I'll let you work with the probation department as to when you're going to do those. Uh, but you will be required to do those. Um, I I want you to think about while you're doing the work camp, I want you to think about how much more serious this could be if you were to ever do this again. So, it's a reminder to you uh about the seriousness of this offense.
All right. Anything else?
>> Um, for me, no.
>> Mr. Dick, >> thank you very much.
>> All right, that's all for today. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> Malcolm Bernell Hope Neil III 26B15069 A B and C.
>> Good morning judge and staff. John to my left. Please identify yourself.
>> How you doing? Yeah, >> not too bad. So, we have a possession of a controlled substance. We have a expired plate and we have a no proof of insurance. First of all, on the misdemeanor charge of possession of a controlled substance, does he stand mute and wave formal reason?
>> Yes, he does charge.
>> And then the other case, so he's going to now plead to that and they are going to uh dismiss the the no proof insurance and expired plate, but he's also going to plead to distracted driving. Correct.
That's correct, judge.
>> And that's going to go on file B. Um, Sie. So, we'll do we'll take the plea of distracted driving on file B. And then I'm going to dismiss files A and didn't say dismiss. I'm going to dismiss file C, no proof of insurance. I'm going to dismiss file B, original charge of expired play. And then I'll take the possession of the controlled substance under 7411. Do you understand what that means, sir?
>> Yes, sir.
>> You be plead guilty under section 7411.
What that means is I'm going to defer the proceeding. I'm going to take your plea. I'm going to place you on probation. And then if the conviction will not enter on your record, but if you violate the terms and conditions of probation, then in that event, the conviction will end up on your jar.
If you comply, the case will be dismissed at the end of the specified tip period of probation that I set. Do you understand that?
>> Yes, sir.
>> And do you understand under local ordinance, this is punishable, but the $500 in fines, 90 days jail costs are all those?
>> Yes, your honor.
>> I did you sign, read, and understand the advice of rights?
>> Yes, I >> if you plead guilty, you will be giving up all those rights and there will not be a hearing or a trial. You understand that?
>> Yes, sir.
>> All right. to the charge possession of a controlled substance. How do you plead?
>> Guilty.
>> On April 30 at 26, were you on telepos in a motor vehicle in Groundstown Township at 9:50 p.m.?
>> Yes.
>> And were you in possession of a controlled substance?
>> Yes.
>> What kind of substance?
>> Okay. And uh to the charge of distracted driving, how do you plead?
>> Ill.
>> Responsible.
>> Responsible.
>> Responsible. Where were the mushrooms at?
>> Uh, in a pouch inside of my car sir.
>> And And it was your vehicle? This 2004 2014 Ford?
>> Yes, sir. Correct.
>> And did you put the mushrooms there?
>> Yes.
>> They were yours?
>> They were mine.
>> Are you Are you on probation parole right now?
>> No, sir.
>> Anybody force you to plead guilty?
>> No, sir.
>> I'm going to accept your plea. I'll take it under section 7411.
I'm also going to accept your plea to distracted driving. I'm going to defer the sentencing on that. I'm going to dismiss file C.
We're going to set this for a sentencing. I'm going to address bond.
>> Do you have any priors?
>> He does not have any priors. Judge just want to indicate if these and then from a two to three weeks normally which we have before sentencing. Mr. for is a wrestler and sometimes he goes out of state.
>> Who do you wrestle for?
>> They get to meet the contract wrestler.
So I wrestle for about three different companies.
>> Okay. What? Tell me. Explain.
>> Uh so uh last week I wrestled for Game Changer Wrestling. Uh they're based out of Deacon Trizy, but they travel all over the world. So I wrestle for them when they whenever they're in the Midwest. So I tend to wrestle for them.
I also support another company called ICW. I've gone into uh England, Japan, Australia.
>> Wow.
>> All type of places doing this.
>> Are they paying you as much as they paid uh superstar baseball players and you making 39 million? 42.
>> Yes. I wish I I get I get paid in pats on the backs and bruise bruise body. That's No alcohol, no marijuana, no illegal controlled substances. You're not >> Well, judge, I just want to let you know he had a medical marijuana.
>> Is that true, sir?
>> That is true.
>> And do you have proof of that now?
>> Uh, yes.
>> It did expire, though. I believe several days ago. Uh, yeah. I'm out of hope.
>> Well, I'm not going to address that.
Then you're going to have to get a new medical marijuana card.
>> Absolutely.
>> But no alcohol then, no marijuana, no illegal drugs. You cannot leave the state without the consent of the court.
Do I need to have a provision here for when's the next time you're supposed to go out of state?
>> Uh, right now all of the dates that I have are >> Are they after June 18th?
>> I don't have anything out of state uh planned until uh July.
>> Okay.
>> We're going to do your sentencing on June the 18th. At what time, Heather?
>> 8 Oh, sorry. 8:30.
>> 8:30 in the morning. Okay. I'm going to order a screening and assessment. Like I said, I'm taking your plea possession with controlled substance. You'll go down the hall. You'll get your notice and then you're going over to probation where you'll fill out a questioner and be interviewed and then you will you'll come back on June the 18th. Okay.
>> Yes, sir. Thank you.
>> Any questions?
>> No. Thank you, Josh.
>> Thanks a lot, Mr. Gaziani. Good luck, sir. Good luck with your wrestling.
That's interesting.
>> Thank you.
Tyler Keith Tillery 26G 306 839 A and B.
>> Hello, Jing on behalf of the defendant silence.
>> All right. So, he's going to plead to operating while visibly impaired on file A. The super drunk will be dismissed on that. And then he's pleading to the only problem is the only problem. Let me see something.
Did you pay the PBT refusal?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah, he paid it.
>> He's already taken care of that.
>> Yeah. So then the the So I don't have to take a plea on that and then I'm just going to go ahead and dismiss the Just confirm that with me, will you, Heather?
He did pay that. I remembered that from last time. Is that right?
>> Yes, he did. So, I'm just going to take your plea operating while impaired, dismiss the super drunk, dismiss the uh violation of restrictions on license, and I don't have to take a plea of PBT refusal since you already paid that money, which there was an admission of responsibility. Operating while impaired is punishable by up to 300 fines, 93 days jail, 360 hours community service court costs are all four points. License suspension or revocation in accordance with your vehicle and your vehicle could be or might have to be immobilized depending upon your record. Do you understand that?
>> Yes.
>> Did you sign the advice of rights and read it and understand it?
>> If you plead guilty, you will be giving up all those rights and we will not have a trial of any kind. Do you understand that?
>> Yes. to the charge operating while visibly impaired. How do you wish to plead? Were you operating a motor vehicle on Monroe near Bay in Gibralar March 3rd at 26 at 10:33 p.m.?
>> Guilty.
>> No. Were Were you operating a motor?
>> Oh, yes.
>> Okay. On that date and at that time and at that location?
>> Yes.
>> And prior to that, did you drink alcohol?
>> Yes.
>> What did you drink and how much? Don't lie to me.
>> Six beers and six shots.
>> Okay. And was your ability to operate that motor vehicle impaired? due to the consumption of the alcohol.
>> In what way?
>> Why were you pulled over by the police?
>> Because I had to stop.
>> You ran through a stop sign.
>> Yeah.
>> You think you did that at least in part because your alcohol consumption and council, was there a blood draw with a result of point 0.216? Yes.
>> And you stipulate that was accurate for purposes of the plea. Y >> are you on probation or parole >> right now?
>> Yeah. Anybody force you to plead guilty?
No. Please accepted the operating while impaired. Again, as I said, the PBT refusal he already paid. Dismissing the super drunk and restricted vi uh license violations on the uh motion of the prosecutor referring you for a screening and assessment. Have you been going a >> Yes.
>> You're on a sober link, right?
>> Uh yes.
>> I told you how concerned I was that you're only 20 years old and you went out and got this, right?
>> Yes.
>> So, you're not doing this anymore, right?
>> And judge, we talk about the Yeah, I'll be glad to take him.
>> He wants to take advantage.
>> Okay. Good, good, good, good. Sriby court. I'll I'll So, we're going to set the the uh sentencing out. So, he's going to go through the bond phase. Okay.
>> Tell me when you can uh give me a date, Heather. I'm thinking, let's see. This is already May 21. July the 15th or there. Uh maybe.
>> Yeah. Around right when I come back from Yeah. around the 12.
You would have sobriety court on the 22nd. Do you want or do you want it on a sobriety court date or just on a Trenton day or I'm sorry, Jialter day?
>> Needed on a sobriety court day. Let's just do it on I don't even need it on a Jialter day.
>> Okay. The 16th would be a Jialter day and that's the week after you come back in July.
>> Then let's do that. The 16th will make it at 8:30. Okay. Mr. Duncan, is that good with you?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. So, young man, I look forward to this. I I you seem like a nice kid.
We're going to help you out here. Don't lie to me, though. We're okay.
>> Thank you, J.
>> All right. Thanks a lot. Have a good day. Good luck. Go over. You're going to get your notice and then you're going over to talk to him about probation.
Thank you very much. Jessica Annayia.
Jessica Wina25R254240.
Thank you.
>> Good morning, judge and staff. Jessica John.
She's my Please for yourself. Just Mike.
>> All right. So, your client is in here on pro probation violation. It is alleged that she failed to attend her scheduled probation visit on May the 11th, failed to pay fines and costs as ordered, failed to acquire all warrants by May the 1st. How was she going to proceed on those?
>> Judge, we he plead guilty, but obviously it was an explosion.
>> Is that what you wanted? Plead guilty, ma'am.
>> Yes, sir.
>> If you plead guilty, that would be three technical violations. I'm just not trying to scare you. You could get 15 days. Do you understand that?
>> Yes, sir.
>> And you understand uh that also your 771 status could be revoked, the conviction entered. And again, you'd be subject to that jail term?
>> Yes, I do.
>> And did you sign, read, and understand the advice of rights, revocation, and probation form here today?
>> I did.
>> If you plead guilty, you'll be giving up all those rights, and we're not going to have a hearing or a trial. Do you understand?
>> Can you call me Meline, please? Count one, failure to attend your scheduled probation visit on May 11. How do you plead?
>> Count two, that you failed to pay your fines and costes ordered. How do you plead?
>> Count three, that you failed to clear all your warrants by May the 1st of 26th. How you plead?
>> Did you report to probation on May 11th?
I did and I um I actually emailed her the next day because I didn't realize it was the day before and she said that she had already sent it over to you as a violation that her hands was tied and there was nothing that she could do right at the moment. Um >> hang on, hang on. Just answer my question. Did you fail to clear all your warrants by May 1?
>> Yes.
>> Anybody force you to plead guilty?
>> No.
>> Let me see.
I'm calling probation in here.
I'll accept your pleases to counts one through three. I sent you on March 19th.
Why haven't she cleared why hasn't she cleared her warrants?
>> Judge, she put it simply, she doesn't she she's really destited. She's if it wasn't for her family and her mother was staying in the courtroom, she'd be homeless. I'm surprised looking at her financial situation that she even made a payment of $100.
>> Does she work?
>> She's not working. Again, >> she has kids though, right?
>> She I believe child.
>> She's got three children. Any again transportation remains an issue for uh many of his families that miss is no exception.
>> Your name?
>> Sh.
No. Thanks. Um, she did Portland program for two days in her native community service. Other than that, >> how you supporting yourself, man?
>> It's been hard.
>> Food stamps judge that she has for herself and her children. And uh, she's not getting any child support at this time. She is living again with her mother who's whom she's on and if it wasn't for her, this person would be homeless. Judge, I'm I'm expecting quite frankly uh even more issues because of the transportation situation.
>> Well, you'll zoom with her on >> Zoom. The class A program is on Zoom.
She can pay online, >> right?
>> The only thing that she would need transportation for, she has several warrants to clear still. Um, I feel terrible to call those courouses and see because every court has a different procedure for cancelling warrants. I don't know if they do it in person. Some offer to pay online and we'll close it.
So, that I don't know, but anything else can be done virtually.
>> When did you last word, ma'am?
>> Um, I did tell her I just got a job, but due to my transportation had just had me tell them to take me off the schedule just simply so I didn't get fired. I'm not a bad worker. told me. Um I do have that job still. However, she's holding it for me until I get a better source of transportation.
>> Where's that shop located?
>> It's um in Monroe. It's a cold restaurant.
>> But you're living in Detroit, right?
>> No.
>> Where do you live?
>> Oh, okay.
Do we have our updated address?
>> Yes, it's dinner.
>> Okay. Okay.
>> Yes.
Well, it's not I thought you were coming from Detroit. It's not.
Look, I'm going to let you get your life in order here for a minute.
I'm going to adjourn the sentencing for a month. I will journ the sentencing.
I'm accepting your ps. We'll set a sentence date. She can try to save some money. She can get to other courts to resolve her warrants. Set sentencing.
Why don't you give me a date in the latter part of June, if you would, Heather, please? June 22nd at 8:30.
>> Okay.
I don't mind if you zoom if you can't get here. But you don't >> I did text her the next day. I text her said I didn't realize it was that.
>> Yeah, I know. But you got to just be a little more responsible.
>> She emailed me about something else, but I let her know. You missed your >> Got to be careful. Okay. We'll see.
We'll see you in a month. They'll give you your notice down the hall. Go get it. I'd like to see you here in person.
If your mom can't take you, I'm not opposed to you being on Zoom. Okay. Good luck, >> D. Thanks for your compassion.
>> Have a good day, young lady.
>> Thanks. Thank you.
>> Thanks.
>> People against Summer Lorie Great House 25F245336.
Your name, ma'am?
>> Summer Great House.
>> Mr. Longton. Your appearance.
>> I need to read you both something that was handed me today.
And I'm not trying to >> create any more problems here for her and her ex-husband or aranged husband, but I need to read this uh to you because I'm not going to conceal anything. Obviously, >> he just says, "Who may concern what who am I hearing right now, Heather? Can you tell me?" I >> I believe it's the jail background noise. Okay, I'll keep my voice up nice and loud. I am writing to you as a sole legal property owner of the residence located at 30,01 Meadows Drive, Rockwood, Michigan 48173.
I'm aware that the defendant Summer Great House is currently serving a jail sentence under your jurisdiction and has an upcoming court hearing. Please be formally advised of the following. One, no consent for tether/ ankle monitor location. I do not consent to my property being used as a designated residence base station location or monitoring site for any court-ordered electronic tether, scram device, GPS tracker, or house arrest equipment. Two, revocation of residency effected immediately. Summer great house desire permission to reside at, enter, or visit my property. Her residency privileges have been fully and permanently revoked.
Formal eviction papers are currently being processed. Safety and security, that's number three. For safety and privacy reasons, she will be barred from the premises immediately upon her release from the Wayne County Jail for clarification of file custody, rebuke of fraudulent claims. I am aware of the defendant's history of perjury and manipulation before this court, specifically during her prior bond violation hearing. I'm advised she may attempt to claim her immediate release as necessary for child care. The children are completely safe, stable, and cared for in my custody. your claims of child care hardship are entirely false because an alternative housing plan will be required for probation or tether compliance. I am notifying the court and the probation department in advance of a hearing so that the defense council Mr. Longton can arrange an alternative location such as a residential facility, shelter, or different address that does not involve my property. Thank you for your immediate attention to this matter and for ensuring this notice is placed directly in in her official case file respectfully submitted. Harrison Steves.
So with that, >> I respond to that.
>> You can respond whatever you want.
>> There's a lot of false in there.
>> Hang on a second. Hang on.
>> You >> I You asked for a hearing. You filed a motion. I don't quite understand this.
Let's go quite forth on it. That the court app on the record that defendant had violated her bond provisions by working in a restaurant that serves alcohol and not informing her probation officer about that employment.
I had to go back and listen to tape. I didn't say one word about that. What I did say is she wasn't truthful with me.
What I did say is that when I asked if there was any material additions, corrections, or deletions, she should have been forthcoming. She should have been forthcoming with her probation officer. That's the only reason I I scheduled this re this emergency motion for reconsideration of sentence because that's just not true. I didn't say anything about bond conditions. I said she'd violated bond conditions in the past. She lied to me under oath in the first time she was drinking. She had 26 late sober link blows.
She was positive for alcohol back in February four or five days in a row. 6 7 8 9 and 10 I think it was or February 8, 9, 10, and 11.
And by the way, just just to pile on here, she had to drive to court because somehow someway a car titled in her >> aunt's name remained in the parking lot for two days after she was sentenced.
And by the way, I haven't checked it, but I believe she was still revoked. And this has been the pattern with your client.
So you can correct whatever you want.
I'm going to listen to you and then we'll go from there. What do you want to correct?
>> She is a lawyer.
>> That's fine. I'm not the the divorce judge.
>> Well, what what he's done custody. He's grabbed the kids. He's changed the locks involved resident of that house. That address is on his driver's license. She gets the license to go there.
Enter that house.
>> I just read you into the record.
>> I just read you into the record. what he said. I didn't say anything was truthful.
>> Yeah, that's correct, John. You did not.
But I I I wanted to make that clarification. I know my client is outlined with me to address what you read in the record of that letter.
>> Okay. Okay. Good enough. What else?
>> So, what's happened is what I feared was going to happen a new attorney custody away from her with the next party because she's in jail. Uh I have no defense to that as long as she's any kind of and she's been the primary care primary of his children since birth biological father.
not been a primary caregiver, not going to call this.
He's seized on this and we have custody.
I I think the children are going to be harmed if people are incarcerated.
I have no doubt.
>> Is that you? Is that you, Mr. Are you Mr. Steves? Are you Mr. Steves?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. He's in the back there. Go ahead.
I have no doubt that his children aren't being harmed by taking >> I'm not but I don't have anything to do with it.
>> But you certainly have jail house taking care of you by her own. That's what I'm having. She has learned her lesson.
There's no doubt in my mind she has learned her lesson about honesty.
>> You can't lie to the court.
Your honor, >> I will not go through a sobriety court with a defendant who's lying to me left and right. And and I got to tell you, I don't know, maybe her aunt drove her here, decided to leave the car here and walk home and leave the car here for two days.
>> I tell her that.
>> And you tell that.
You're honest.
>> It just underscores how >> how she has not taken this seriously.
Listen, >> I wanted to give you this hearing only because I wanted to clear up this record.
>> I did not say anything about bond conditions. That is not a true statement, Mr. Longton.
>> What I did say is she was not honest.
>> I will let you speak for 10 seconds, ma'am, but you've got a lawyer representing you. This is a motion hearing. If you wanted to say something, you can, but go ahead.
>> Your honor, what when you asked me about the employment, I brought it up. I was unsure about bringing it up before that.
I was desperate to just work for my kids. My kids's dad does travel a lot for work. I'm a mom. I wasn't sure what to say. You know, I wanted to bring it up. It wasn't something that was permanent. I'm want to complete this program. I want to be there for my kids.
I enrolled myself in school. I've been going to counseling by myself.
I understand that I made mistakes in the beginning, but I am more than committed and willing to complete this program if you would please just consider it. I'm a mom. I want to be there for my kids. I want to put this all behind me.
>> No, but you you can't just say I can commit all these crimes and then say, I want to put it behind me.
>> This is the thing. This isn't a simple isolated mistake. You've got four. You lied to me under oath about your alcohol use. It's too much. I will not spend the twilight years of my career >> trying to get people who through sobriety court who are not being honest with me. I will not do that. I'm sorry.
The motion for reconsideration of the sentence is denied. I wish you well. I hope everything works out for you and your family. I really do, Miss Great House. But I'm not changing my mind.
Thank you all. Have a good day.
>> Court case people versus Justin.
>> Yeah. Was that Justin Chaps?
>> No.
>> I'm sorry.
>> Really can't hear me.
Canon. You can't. It's you. Good.
>> Great.
>> Thank you. Your name, sir.
>> Um, Justin Heaton.
>> I'm sure you intending on representing yourself.
>> Yes.
>> Pardon?
>> Yes.
>> All right. I do have to advise you that couple of things. First of all, there is some danger in representing yourself.
You'll be held by the same standards as an attorney in courtroom. The court is not here to assist you in that matter. I will presume that you would know the court rules and the manner and procedures. You understand that, sir?
>> Yes, sir.
>> All right. I do also have to advise you that you're here on two counts of assaulting, resisting, or obstructing a first responder or police officer. Do you understand that, sir?
>> Um, yes. Both of those are felonies punishable by up to two years incarceration at $2,000 fine plus court cost. You understand that?
>> Okay. Right. If at any time during this procedure you wish to be represented by an attorney, all you have to do is ask the court and the court will be more than happy to make sure that you are afforded. You understand that?
>> Yes. Do you still wish to proceed on your own? All right. What would you like to do in this?
>> Um, well, I was hoping to see um if you were able to um remove me from the jail today.
You're asking me to reduce your bond?
Um, yes. Well, even before I get there, I have to do something with the case.
What would you like for me to do with the case, sir?
Um well, seeing as I was hoping to be removed from the jail so that I could better prepare for the case, um that was my best wishes.
>> You don't know what procedure comes next in this process, do you?
>> Um I assumed it was on the court. Yes.
>> Pardon?
>> I assumed it was on the court um to decide that. Yes. on the court um to decide the next procedure.
Sir, do you want to be represented by an attorney? It if for no other reason than to assist you in this matter, I have some serious concerns that you're going to that you don't you're not sure what you're doing. And I'm not saying that in a bad way. I just don't think you know what you're doing.
>> Okay. Um Okay. What? Uh, no, thank you.
>> Okay.
>> Um, I thought that I stated my claim fairly standardly. Do you want a preliminary examination in this matter?
>> Um, I was just speaking to um my best wishes.
The next thing that will happen is the preliminary examination when the case is ready to go. Are you ready to have your preliminary examination?
>> Proceed.
>> Pardon?
>> Proceed.
>> Proceed. What's that mean?
>> I'm ready to proceed.
>> You're ready? Have you Have you seen the discovery in the case?
>> Um, the only paperwork I have is right here. It's the uh >> your honor, our office has not really be able to deliver anything as they want to look to make sure Mr. >> Right. I understand that, sir.
You haven't seen the paperwork in the case, right?
I this is the paperwork today. I I did request um proper paperwork before today. Yes.
>> You requested it from whom?
>> Of from the jail upon >> from who? All right. Sir, you haven't seen a police report or anything like that, right?
So, you don't know the particulars of the allegations of the charges here.
That was a question you don't understand that. Correct.
I would just like not like to answer.
>> Would you like a copy of the police report um before we proceed with the case today?
At any point, >> sir, I'm going to ask you again. Do you wish to be represented by an attorney?
>> No.
>> What I'm going to do, however, is I'm going to out of fairness grant the request of the people to adjourn this matter.
How long will it take the people to get paperwork to him so that he can be as prepared as he would like to be to proceed to exam?
>> We will get that over as soon as we can.
I my understanding there are also videos that may take a little bit.
sign.
>> Well, I'll give you two because he's going to have to they're going to have to arrange a way for him to look at it and I don't think >> provoc conference court's going to find good cause to do so. I'm going to adjourn that to June 4th, 2026 9:00 a.m. Bond in this matter will continue. Thank you.
So that we're clear on denying the request to release the defendant at the time.
Court case versus Alan >> Fa J on behalf of approaching podium.
Uh, judge, I was just appointed, but I did meet with Mr. Fclaw yesterday for a good hour and a half. I know what the situation is. I have all discovery. Um, we're want to have it all. Want to set this for exam.
>> All right.
People have their witnesses available to second.
All right. Judge, may I address?
>> Yes. Preliminary examination. This matter will be set for June 2nd, 2026, 9:00 a.m. before Judge >> Judge >> Judge Washington.
>> All right. Go ahead, Bonnie.
>> Just very briefly, u my client was driving. He had just bought this pickup older pickup truck. Did not have a plate, which was the reason for the stop. He does have a valid license. That being said, um he was pulled over. He was cooperative with the police. Um, in in the back of the pickup truck on the bed in the bed, which had a tarp covered, they found a pistol. It did not belong to my client. Um, he did not know it was there. There was also ammunition for a that was not correct for that gun inside the cab, which my client admitted having. Uh that being said, sole caretaker of his mother, actually Trinity Health actually his mother's caretaker. She now lives in an apartment temporarily while the house they did live in caught on fire and is being rebuilt. All that being said, judge, I'm asking if my >> going to be an objection to release them.
>> There would be people are gravely concerned given the allegations. There's a firearm that was found was a printinted gun >> was what?
>> The gun, meaning there's no track. It could be the ability to have some additional firearms in the future. The ammo did not match the gun. That could suggest that there was an additional firearm that was not found. The ammunition that was found were hollow point bullets, meaning that they would cause grave bodily injury if they were shot at a person. Um the defendant >> but not illegal.
Okay, go ahead.
>> Um the defendant was analy 1988.
He has three convictions for homosexual conduct. Second um >> when was his last conviction?
>> 2000 what? 2000.
>> In 2000 he spent 18 years in prison judge. He's been on parole since 2018.
Uh again, uh Judge got off to he was off parole in 2018. I'm sorry. I'm just asking for He did show the officer that the title the guy did sign off on the title. Just hadn't got a plate yet. Uh again, I'm asking more just for leniency because this is so just buy the truck.
Is that the deal?
>> Yes, your honor.
It was a used truck. he had just bought it. Yeah. The the person signed off the title. Um again, because he's a sole caretaker of his mother who's temporarily living in an apartment while their house is being built. He's agreeable to home confinement, tether, anything the court wants to give because he's going to stay there with his mother while he takes care of her.
He's not currently on parole. Correct.
>> When was was his last conviction? 25 years ago >> or longer than that?
>> Yes, your honor.
I have no information.
Well, look at your bond form. Says he's a convicted felon, highly assaulted, dangerous criminal history. But that I So, I'm trying to figure out why the mag had a4 million dollar bond on this case and it seems that that's the basis for it.
But my understanding at least as of now is that that that was over 25 years ago or the conviction actually may have been before that but 25 years ago >> and he has no convictions in those 25 years.
>> I'm being told that the date was 2003 but so it would be >> okay. So 24 years ago or 20 whatever >> judge he was I I to be honest with the court he was in prison for almost 15 years. His he was released. He he got off parole. He was parrolled. He's got off >> When did he get off parole?
>> 2018 >> and hasn't had anything since.
>> No, your honor.
>> Where does he reside in? Um the >> to >> that's temporarily your honor with he and his mother would be staying at I think what's the address? 910 >> 910 >> 910 Maplewood apartment 2 while their home on what street?
>> 78 nothing Calder.
>> Calder is being rebuilt your honor.
Which should be done in the next couple months.
>> What is this temporary address?
>> The temporary address is 910.
>> No. What?
Who there? Just just his mother.
So that's his mother's address. Correct.
And he's a caretaker for being paid by Trinity Health.
I dropped a piece of beep.
>> Anything else?
>> No, we honor.
>> All right. I said it for exam on the second. I'm going to release the defendant on $25,000 personal recognizance bond. However, a condition of that bond is ceased to be placed on a home confinement GPS feather.
Thank you. Thank you. Court case versus behalf of Mr. >> Please state your hand for the record, sir.
>> Stevie Kanger.
>> Kanger. Apologies.
Your honor, I do speak to Mr. Kanga. uh he has asked that we adjourn this matter to review discovery and talk to the about a potential resolution if I don't know if the court was going to do the June 2nd date Mr. For what?
>> For his next step. Judge, >> why would I do? He's not asking for an exam.
>> Okay. Just want to make sure. No, judge.
Not >> why.
>> Why are you Why is he doing this?
>> I'm talking too much. I'm sorry. I know.
>> I'm done talking.
>> My apologies.
>> I'd be done by now. But go ahead, Faster.
>> I have always to say, judge. I apologize.
>> Oh, no. You're not apologize. Don't accept it.
>> Whatever date you want, J.
>> I know. Actually, >> you were stopping me before I even said anything.
>> I shouldn't have >> then gave the wrong date.
>> I did.
>> And then >> we all make mistakes.
>> You see, >> I'm sorry.
>> This is what I was talking about before I came.
>> My greatest apology.
>> Somebody is trying to pressure me to like >> No.
>> No. You were doing that to me.
>> I'm sorry.
>> I didn't mean to.
>> No, I expected it from Chinaza, not you.
>> You're right. She does that all the time.
>> I know. I know. All right.
Whatever piece piece of date you want, judge. I'm sorry.
Hey, no, I'm not talking. Yes. Stop talking, sir.
Will June 11th work for you?
>> Yes. Yes, your honor.
>> All right. Very good.
You got all through that. PCC will be jured June 11, 2026. 98. Thank you, sir.
>> Apologies, Judge. No, you're Why do you apologize when you don't mean it? Calls the case. People versus Stefan Scott. I said behalf your honor.
>> I gold see on behalf of the defendant.
>> There you are.
>> Your name, sir?
>> Stefon Scott.
>> Your honor, at this point, I have received no discovery.
>> I don't think we have entered in our system. outside and told Mr. Bolian to me the appearance and promise you can stay.
>> Well, your honor, that may be true that they may not have a written appearance, but I have spoken to Miss Ten several times and asked her for discovery and I have not received it. Nothing to do with Miss Enda, but >> they well but my understanding is it's sort of an automated process once it's sent in. The discovery is then sent up.
>> Last had it sent I believe was Mr. Kald when he was originally on before Mr. Gold. got back to or >> if Mr. If well Mr. Kilow doesn't have it because I asked him for it.
>> He doesn't have it. No, >> I think I think it's on a USB because there is over 1,600 pages of discovery and each of those is like seven report.
So I think it's on a USB at our audience.
You're right. I don't have a problem with in the German. I We did file I did file a green sheet, but I just want >> No, I know. I just But I also want to make sure I don't get back here and then we don't cuz if Mr. Kilowald didn't have it. If it's on a USB, that may be because he might not have picked it up. But I want to make sure that it's failing.
>> The The problem is this case went from from A to B to C to D. I'm the D. Mr. to kill a wall made it was either the B or the C. It kept switching to different people which is one of the reasons why it took a while to get the to get the uh substitution done because we kept we were always one step behind but >> Got it.
>> So it's not entirely your your office >> because I still have do you I have Mr. Goldstein now in the case.
>> Okay. So is I guess I want to make sure the discovery is going to be available for pickup.
Yes, I need to bring a USB with him and we can have we have a ready to copy over.
>> How big a USB? You know what? I've got I've got an external drive that holds a lot.
>> Okay.
>> Okay, good. We're We got all the technical stuff worked out.
>> Yeah. Now, now comes the fun part, your honor, which is the issue of bond.
>> It might be fun for you. Um, >> if I can.
>> How long in adjourment did you want?
>> Well, you know, I'm going to be gone in the month of June. So, I'm talking about early July.
>> Okay.
And do July 2nd. Is that right?
>> Hang on. Let me check. I think that's good, but let me check.
>> I'll I'll make it work, your honor.
>> All right.
>> Now, on the cost conference will be turned. I'm trying to avoid >> I know. I know you are.
>> You're doing You're doing a good job.
>> I know. I know. All right.
>> All right. I'll try to make this as brief as possible. In 14 months ago, my client was charged with some charges.
Those charges were pending until about a month ago when on the eve of trial, prosecutor's office Nali Prost and then turned around and filed the charges you have in front of you. None of them are new. All these dates go back to early 2025.
So this case, so he basically sat in jail for a year. They then dismissed it and charged him with think they could have charged him over a year ago. Now we come to do the piece, the probable cause conference, and there's no discovery.
Now it's not their fault. I'm on vacation next month, but it's another going to be another four or five, six weeks before we can get back into this court and we can start start moving forward. And none of this was at Mr. Scott's insistence. He was ready to go to trial all the way through and the and the case kept sitting and sitting and and then they walk in and dismiss it.
And I I well I mean I'm not going to argue the issue whether he's entitled to credit because he has that's not for you to decide. But one of the consequences of him sitting for a year was that nothing happened and B he could have he can now lose the credit for that year.
>> Well so that I'm from the people >> so that I'm clear the the original charges that he was sitting did he have an exam on that case?
>> I do I wasn't representing him at the time your honor. So he did. Yes, he did.
So he had an exam was bound over waiting to get to trial and then at the point of trial >> they naly prost >> and some some of those charges that they pro are included in the information I'm sorry the complaint that's in front of you now and then there are additional charges but those additional charges could have been brought a year ago and they chose to wait a year and not charge So at this point, your honor, I think it's only fair that he >> Well, but hold it.
>> You're saying they could have been brought. So they they didn't arise.
>> No.
>> Okay.
>> In fact, Mr. Ifstein is still here. He represented Mr. Scott at the time. They tried they they even argued some of those at the time of the bind over, but they were not added as charges.
None of this is new. It's if you look at the dates in your complaint, >> they were they argued it. They weren't added.
>> They tried to get in some testimony at at the preliminary examination, some of the same information that's in I mean some of the same charges that are contained in the complaint that you have and Judge Bar would not allow it. But they never moved to amend or bring those charges until April of 2026, a year a year later. So the case sat for a year and those charges could have been brought either as an amendment to the information or as a separate case and they didn't do it >> response.
>> I did not handle that exam for the previous case. He was previously charged of bag stalking. And at that exam, the victim did appear to testify. And after that exam, after speaking with her, it's my understanding that our office had detective Pearson or Soving do a supplemental interview with her to go back over the entire history of their relationship and the domestic violence that occurred within that relationship for a potential new case that was submitted. That case was submitted and that report was, I believe, 1,600 or so pages that Miss Tana had to review and go through and speak with the victim about before deciding what charges were going to be issued. And in that report, it does detail the five and a half year relationship and numerous acts of domestic violence, including times that the victim was seriously physically assaulted to the point of having injuries and having being assaulted while holding her child thrown in a closet and choked. the child was seen in the hospital group. There's other assaults that are detailed here that include her suffering extensive bruising, bleeding, difficulty walking, incidents of the defendant being at her house when police arrived and telling her not to contact police and to tell them that everything is fine and have him come out after they leave. Incidents of the defendant contacting her along with that this extensive history points which the defendant was incarcerated on those previous cases that she did not care for because of him intimidating or interfering with these cases. There was thousands of jail calls. I think at the end of that supplement report, what was submitted was a call out that included 1,04 completed calls during the penalty of those previous cases to the victim that were included in that report as well. So, this is an extensive uh review of that entire domestic violence relationship, including potential uh for sex trafficking charges for this victim as well. Uh, I mean, it's just an extensive history of violence and aggression and abuse that this victim face that we needed to sift through with her and the detective to get a full picture of what potential charges could even be coming for this case.
>> Your honor, it's a little unfair for her to give this litany of of of things. For two reasons. One of which, this is neither the prelim nor the nor a trial.
And number two, I can't respond because I have not seen any of that material.
So, I think it's a little unfair for the for that to be brought up. You you can see what the charges are. You've got the complaint in front of you. You can see the dates of the of the of the alleged offenses. And Miss Enda has now indicated, yeah, they've had this information for a year now and did nothing.
And it's just un So, he basically was asked to give a year of his life while they twiddled their thumb.
>> So, because that's not entirely true, Mr. Goldstein. I mean, at least the way that you make it seem because he had a prelim and was bound over on the prelim.
Now, as to what court scheduling or anything else along those lines, I I I can't speak to that. I mean, I get it that he's there, but then they come in and they dismiss the charges, but then they bring these back.
I >> I mean, the only thing I disagree with what you just said, your honor, is they could have brought these charges a year ago, >> and now we're starting all over.
>> I don't I don't I mean, I hear what you're saying, but I don't know that. I don't know how ripe the charges were. I can't say that. Um or whether or not they had all of the information. I I mean, I hear what you're saying and that they requested that some of these be added, but That's as well from my review of our notes. What an extent of what this is was discussed, but it was not the full extent of the sit down. I believe the interview was like four or five hours with this going over it. We did not have that the day of the exam being.
>> I that's that's correct. But when was the interview? It was done within days of the exam.
>> And they certainly knew some of this >> after the exam.
which is means he not right. I mean Okay.
>> Yeah, that's correct. That's correct.
>> Which means they couldn't have just added them because he would have he would have been entitled to an exam on any added charges anyway.
>> Right. Any added charges, there's some information they already had, some information they got later. I can see that.
>> Well, okay. Anything else >> at this point? Um I mean certainly I would hear anything or get this thing set but um the discovery is now ready given the adjourn date at this point.
However, I'm going to deny the motion for uh reduction in bond and bond will continue as is and certainly feel free to address it once you've looked at the discovery on June on July 2nd.
>> All right. Thank you.
Court calls case of the people first is Daniel Healings. is going to give >> Michael Gaddy public defender on behalf of Mr. Keelin. Your honor who's very important to us.
>> Who is that?
>> Who is that?
>> What?
Why?
>> This is Casey McGee, your honor. A legal fellow in our office.
>> This is Mr. Healey, >> a legal fellow.
>> Yes.
>> Grant. Why didn't they didn't introduce me to her?
>> I know she's been here a long time.
She's been She's in my Well, and you didn't introduce me.
>> My My apologies, your honor. I I I assumed you had met her before. This is Miss McGee. Mr. M. McGee, this is Judge Simpson. We'll talk later.
>> Okay.
>> It was nice meeting you.
>> These people are so rude.
>> All right, let's go ahead.
>> Your honor, um, we're here. Um, I think we might have a a resolution that involves a misdemeanor plea in this matter. Um uh we were notified of a bond violation as well.
Has he been testing? Your honor, Mr. um Healin was at um Bear River. He was released from there and now he is with Home and New Vision doing outpatient. Um he has been we did reach out to Home and New Vision for testing. We haven't heard back from Miss Aayoka yet. Um, but uh I was going to ask for to perhaps adjourn this a couple weeks to allow us to get any information for them. On the good side, he does uh have a job. He's working uh full-time at the car wash. He was just approved for his housing voucher which he's been waiting for a long time. Um >> Miss Pantene, I'm sorry. Miss Pantene would like you if you need to confirm it with her.
>> So who Pantene Blade?
She said she uh discussed housing issues with you last week, sir.
>> I believe I believe she works at Pathways or at home or or CH judge. Um but um what's her first name?
>> Blade.
>> Okay.
>> I just got picked, your honor.
>> Pardon?
>> I just got picked. I just got approved for my housing >> for your and that was through her. Got it. Okay.
Unfortunately, it's not unheard of for for someone to be an IOP and continue to use unfortunately and we don't have the results today. I in general don't have an issue with observing it. I wonder if we could do a test today right now and that might give us some guidance into how things are sort of going. I do know that the defendant did quite a bit of time when he was at River. We did some good work up there. So, I'm hopeful that we won't have any issues at the test today.
Your honor, I um uh as I said, he is working with home a new vision. This is a a long process for some folks, but um I'm not going to swing you to get a test today. Okay? And I want the results and then I'll call your case up in the next block. All right?
Which starts at 12:30. Okay?
All right. I'll pass it.
>> Your honor, just for clarification, does your honor want me to get the information you asked for first or do you want to test first or >> I want to test first.
>> All right. Thank you, J.
>> And well, simultaneously, I want to test first, but I need to get that information.
>> Thank you, J.
>> All right. Thank you.
>> Court does call the case people versus Daniel.
>> What was that name?
Michael Gaddy, assistant accept Mr. Healing's making his way to the podium.
Your honor, Mr. Healing did uh uh go to the testing facility. He didn't have the appropriate funds, so he was not able to pass. I did submit some documentation to the court and I believe the court uh has um taken um some steps to verify it.
>> How often are you tested by CH?
>> Um I'm going to be testing weekly, sir.
>> You'll be testing weekly?
>> Yes, sir.
>> All right. What I'd like then what I'm going to do in this case is I realize you had the funds to test today.
Um I don't I'm going to do it in a way so that your housing's not jeopardized. We were able to verify that you were selected.
Congratulations.
>> Thank you.
>> And I know where you'll be.
Um, one of the reasons that I was going to do this is because of where you'll be. There's services that are surrounding you. Um, which can lead to your success in it. And so I'd rather not interfere in all of that and won't.
Okay.
>> Yes, sir.
you need to and work with your attorney.
I need a release from CMA to you did the intake over at community corrections, right? Yes, sir.
>> So, can we let community corrections know that he I'm going to allow him to test through CH because you're not employed at this point, right?
>> Uh I'm supposed to start a job full-time, but I don't know when. I just they're waiting for some It's one of those. Yeah, >> I got you.
>> Okay. So, what I'm going to have you do is we'll sign a release. He'll test through CH at this point.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Um with a release community corrections of the results.
>> Thank you.
>> Okay.
>> And they they also just indicated that he had been chosen off of a list a program that I'm familiar with. So, um it's a great opportunity.
>> Yes, sir. I'm so thankful.
When's the last time you were housed for this?
>> A long time.
>> Yeah.
>> Long time.
>> So, good things are happening. You get bear river, right?
>> Trying. I'm trying.
>> Okay. You just got to keep up the good work, right?
>> Yes, sir.
>> And like I said, there isn't, in my opinion, there isn't a reason for you to fail because you got so much surrounding you now.
>> Yes.
>> Have to work it. Yes, sir.
And Mr. Getty, you needed an adjournment.
>> Yes, Shor, I did prepare um a green sheet >> so we can get a number of tests and I'm going to adjourn this to June 18, 2026, 9:00 a.m. Bond bond will continue.
All right, take care.
case people versus Justin Moer your honor to vote for the people ready judge feaster assistant public defender on behalf of Mr. Moer please station Moser >> thank you judge uh we are uh requesting an adjournment in this matter Mr. Moer has prepared his own mitigation information. I'm going to send it to our social worker to tighten it up for the people there.
>> Got it. June 18th.
>> Thank >> Oh, I just wanted to see testing.
>> Are you testing at community corrections, sir?
>> No, I'm not, sir.
>> I'm not aware. I'm I'm going I'm currently working with the CH. Hang on.
Hang on. Hang on. I don't see a testing run. I think you're requesting that testing be a lane for instance. In the reportedly was indicated was smell of at the time that this happened this happened in his truck in his driveway playing start off likely due to those.
Sorry. Sorry. just ask if consideration.
Your >> honor, I believe this is a mental health situation and not a substance abuse situation. Mr. Mocher is already getting the treatment he needs through CH. He's taken the matter very seriously. He's had no violations of any other type. I'd ask that the B condition stay as is and I think our social workers and CH can uh put together the appropriate mitigation to show the court and people how the situation occurred.
>> Disclosure, if I sent you over for a test today, would you test clean?
>> I'll test clean, sir.
>> You would test clean?
>> Yes, sir.
>> Okay. Why don't they do this? Um other than any medications you may have, you'll test clean. All right. Want him to go over get a test. I'll call him up in the next block. I'll use whatever the results of that in consideration of whether or not there's any alcohol testing or anything like that.
>> Thank you.
>> What was the date of the meeting?
>> The 18th.
>> I was 2 weeks.
>> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> The CH uh said that they were going to maybe have me test there. Would it be possible to test with a CH and then provide those results? That may >> occur later, but I want to test today.
Okay.
>> All right.
>> Thank you, judge.
>> Thank you.
>> Thank you. I'll pass that.
>> Case of the people versus Justin Moser.
>> Afternoon coach for the people.
>> First assistant public defender on behalf of >> I don't >> I don't have my account.
>> Justin Moser.
>> It's probably on the table, Mr. um >> Mr. Mo to go test. I don't know what the results of the tests were, but I guess they weren't positive.
>> Weren't good. Okay. Well, they were positive, >> but Barry, >> yes.
>> Um, what's the deal with opiates in your system?
>> You know, I was prescribed methacarbal uh for extended uh back pain and I I wasn't able to fill that prescription because I was switching from to get Medicaid. Um, and it was the prescription was too costly. So, I had really bad back pain last night and I did take one pill that started with hydro. Um, I'm not sure exactly what it was. Um, I think it was an opiate. I didn't know it was an opiate. Um, it was the only time I took that pill uh for the back pain. So, I'm still waiting for my insurance to be corrected so that I can get the appropriate uh medication um and go from there.
So, your prescription, when was the last time he had that?
>> I am haven't going to the doctor as of rec.
>> The only thing that can make this worse right now is for you to lie to me.
>> Okay?
>> I've been here a long time. I've heard a lot of stuff.
>> It's not my intent.
>> So, no. Right. Listen, >> a lot of people lie to me and don't don't seem to intend it.
>> Right.
>> So, I'm gonna let you take a breath and start your story again.
Why is there opiates in your system?
>> I took a pill last night for back pain uh that said uh hydro on it and I wasn't if I knew it was an opiate, I wouldn't have taken it. I just I didn't know it was an opiate.
>> Okay. What the hell? I'll ask what do you think it was?
>> I I don't know. There's several different uh back pain medications and I I took it for bad back pain that I have um because I couldn't fulfill my uh prescription that was from the doctor.
I'm switching from Medicaid to uh from another insurance company.
>> I heard you.
>> And so I'm sorry. Like I said, I I took a pill that was apparently an opiate.
Um, I'm willing to >> You're not supposed to be taking any illegal drugs.
That drug is illegal for you.
>> I was I was unaware of that. I'm I'm completely sorry.
>> How are you unaware of that?
>> I just I'm not an opiate user. I don't use opiates and I didn't >> Well, you do now, apparently.
>> So, I didn't I'm sorry. you know, I'm willing to uh do testing or follow the court's advice to uh to, you know, >> correct the situation.
>> So, when you said you'd test clean, >> I thought I was going to clean >> test clean, but you knew you took a pill last night.
>> I was unaware that it was an opiate.
That's the biggest thing that I That's why I was so sure of it. I was 100% sure that I was going to test clean.
Um I realize I had given you a date. I'm going to move the um probable cause conference up to June 4th.
>> Thank you, judge.
>> At this point, the defendant's bond is hereby ordered to revoke violation of his conditions defended his remainder.
>> Thank you, judge.
>> We will go on the record in the matter 26 CF43, State of Wisconsin versus Alicia Rosland. This date appears through District Attorney Kevin Schmidt in person. We have Miss Rosland in person with council Eugene Harrington.
We're set today in this matter for preliminary hearing. It will proceed.
Please call your first witness, Mr. Schmidt.
>> I call Andrew Tyler.
>> Officer Tyler, please come forward.
You're going to raise your right hand.
You'll be sworn in. Then come have a seat at the witness stand. Do >> you swear that the testimony you're about to provide today in this matter is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
>> I swear.
All right, you may begin.
>> Can you state your name for the record?
>> Andrew Tyler.
>> What do you do for a living?
>> I'm police officer for the village of Siren.
>> How long have you been so employed?
>> Been employed there since August of 2025.
>> Did you respond to a call of a disturbance on March 21st, 2026 around 2:50 a.m.?
>> Yes. Uh in Maple Lane in the village of Siren?
>> Yes.
>> Did you go out there?
>> Yes.
>> Uh where did you go and what did you see?
>> Went into the house. When I entered the house, I met the victim and she she brought me downstairs. When I went downstairs, met the uh two suspects and two vict well three victims at that time.
>> Before we get into that, the residence you went to, is it in Bernack County?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. So, you made contact with a number of people. What did they say?
>> When I entered, the victim was upstairs.
Uh, initials D O was upstairs. She said they were downstairs. When I went downstairs, uh, I was able to separate the two suspects from the victims and they went upstairs and I spoke with the two victims that were downstairs.
>> Uh, who were they and what did they say?
initials were JT and DO said they were downstairs in the room um when the suspects entered the house went downstairs entered their bedroom and attacked them.
>> You said suspects did did they know who attacked them?
>> Yes, it was uh Alicia and Rehea.
>> They specified it was those two.
>> Yes.
>> You actually saw the Alicia who was there?
>> Yes, she was in the basement when I entered the house. Do >> you see that person in court here today?
Yes, she's seated next to defense council in a black sweatshirt.
>> Let the record reflect that um officer Tyler has identified Alicia Rosland.
>> Did DO or JT describe the circumstances leading up to them being attacked?
>> Yes, they said they were in their >> objective form of the question. We need to know who said what. Whether it was JT or DO, >> which person said what? I I get the whole victim's rights and Marcy's law, but we don't have to use initials. This is a formal hearing. Please use the names. Um, all right. So, that is sustained.
Uh, who did you talk to?
>> We talked to Jack Taylor and Desiree Otto.
>> Did any of them say how the circumstances uh led up to the attack?
>> Yes.
>> Who and what did they say? They both said that >> the form it's it's there has to be a specific identifying who's speaking.
>> That's why I said who and what did they say?
>> And that's a compound question.
>> Compound question sustained.
>> Who did you talk? What did Okay. What did Desiree say?
>> Desire said she was in her bedroom and the two suspects entered the house. Went down to the bedroom, entered the bedroom and attacked her. and Jack.
>> Uh, what did Jack say?
>> He said that he was in the bedroom and they came in and attacked him in the bedroom.
>> Uh, did Desiree give any more details about how the attack went?
>> At that time, she said that later on she did give more details. Do you want me to go into what was said later on?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Yeah. She said that when they entered the room that she was grabbed by her hair, this would have been by Ria. And then shoved to the ground and then kicked on the side and the head approximately 20 times. And when she was grabbed by her hair, it ripped some of her hair out.
>> And did she say where this occurred in the house?
>> Occurred in her bedroom in the basement.
>> Okay.
Uh, same question for Mr. Taylor. Did he give further explanation of the circumstances of him being attacked?
>> He did. He did not know the suspects at the time. Um, he said that one female entered and attacked him. Um, and he said that the other one began attacking Desiree.
>> Okay.
Did were there any recordings of the incident that you reviewed?
>> Yes, there was. Uh Lisa, the homeowner had Desiree had called Lisa and left a voicemail.
And in that voicemail, you could hear female presumed to be Desiree screaming.
And you could hear the uh and you could hear a voice, female voice saying go Ria for your grandpa and saying go multiple times.
>> Was there any explanation given of what the connection of Alicia Rosland and Rya Shabbash was to this residence of the people there?
>> Yes. So Ria was a foster child of the owner of the house. Uh she had been there approxim I believe it was till she was six years old.
>> That was quite a long time ago.
>> Yes.
>> And did the owner of the house indicate whether they had permission to come in?
>> Yes. She said they had no right to be there.
>> Okay.
Uh did you talk at all to either Ria or Alicia?
>> Yes.
>> What did Ria say about the incident?
>> We said that there was a conflict at a bar in town. Um, she said that she had went to the house to confront uh, Desiree. Um, she said that it was Ria said that it was her grandpa's house. So, she went entered the house, went downstairs to the basement. She said that they met her by the bathroom.
Desiree and then she did not know what happened after that. It moved to the bedroom and she did not know. What did Alicia say?
>> Alicia said that it was she said that it was Ria's house. Um and that they had I'd have to reference the report to see exactly what she had said for uh entering the house.
>> To refresh your recollection if you reviewed the criminal complaint.
>> Yeah.
Got it.
So with I want to know what page >> okay >> he reviewed first judge and then not to read the page but what did he review?
>> What pages have you reviewed or did you review the entire criminal complaint?
>> I reviewed uh pages one through four up to uh four of eight to read. Uh >> please put the document down and give it back to Mr. Schmidt. and then you may answer the question.
>> So specifically Alicia when asked uh what had happened she kind of chuckled looked at Ria and said how do I explain this or how do we explain this?
>> Is that all she ever said?
>> She she mentioned that it was uh Ria's house and that's why they went there.
>> Okay. Uh did you ask either Mr. Well, I guess I said the flame. Either Jack or Desiree if the attack caused him injury.
Yes.
>> Or pain.
>> Yes.
>> What' they say?
>> Yes, they both uh confirmed that it did.
Talked to Jack later and he confirmed that it did. Um I reviewed body camera and observed uh Desiree had wincing and pain when her head was touched. And then she said she did uh have EMS. She didn't get looked at by EMS at that time.
>> Were there visible injury to her?
>> Yes, she had a small cut on the back of her head, blood behind her ear, and she said she could taste blood.
>> Did she indicate whether she gave consent to being attacked?
>> She said she did not.
>> How about the same question for Jack?
>> He said he did not.
When Rehea was explaining that she went over there about something at the fezan end, was she saying that happened the same day?
>> Yes. Yeah. She said it was approximately 10 minutes earlier.
>> Okay.
>> I don't recall if I asked this, so if I'm repeating it, just let me know. You you identified who the homeowner was.
>> Yes.
>> Who was that?
>> Lisa. And did she >> And did she say whether Ray and Alicia had permission to enter the residence?
>> Yes, they she said they had no right to be there.
>> Okay.
>> Did she know Elise at all?
She knew Ria through uh being a foster.
I could not tell if she knew Alicia.
>> And just for clarity, when Desiree was explaining who was attacking her, did she say it was only Rehea or only Alicia or something else?
>> She said that they had both entered the room and attacked her. Um later she said that it was Rehea that was the one that had pulled her hair down and she said that Alicia had attacked Jack at that time.
>> Okay. I have no other questions.
>> Mr. Harington.
>> Thank you. Judge, >> did you check the public record to see who actually has title to the real property?
>> I asked uh the check. I did not.
There is nothing in your reports or the criminal complaint that indicates that Alicia pulled Desiree's hair, is there?
>> No. There's nothing in the criminal complaint to suggest that Desiree kicked that Alicia kicked Desiree either, is there?
>> Not in the No.
And the source for uh the information that Alicia attacked Jack comes from Jack, correct?
>> Yes.
>> Alicia told you that Jack struck her first. Did she not?
>> I do not recall her telling me that Jack punched her first.
>> Okay. But you don't recall that? That's not in the complaint either, is it?
>> Mhm. No, it's not in the complaint.
>> Have you talked to U No, I'll withdraw that.
Do you know what the disagreement between Alicia and um strike that? Do you know what the disagreement between Rehea and Desiree was about other than some family thing?
>> I do not know the specifics. I know that uh Ria or Alicia at the time had said that Desire had said something to her at the bar. Call her name.
>> Thanks. I have no further questions.
>> Questions? Redirect.
>> No redirect.
>> You may step down. Thank you, sir.
Move to dismiss, judge. There's no Are you done, Kevin? I'm sorry. I jumped the gun here.
>> Further witnesses?
>> Uh, no other witnesses.
>> I'll move to dismiss. There's no uh evidence that um they entered this premises without the lawful consent of the owner uh because someone else represents that they own the property. Doesn't isn't conclusive as a matter of law as to who actually does. Uh further, there's no evidence that Alicia kicked or stomped or did anything visav Desiree or Jack. Uh Jack uh has an interest in this and he self-reported that uh Alicia punched him and and um there's no other evidence in the preliminary exam to suggest uh that that's an accurate recitation of the facts. Uh state has failed in its burden. Move to dismiss. Mr. Schmidt, >> uh, I think we showed the lawful possession with all reasonable inferences drawn in favor of the state.
Uh, what needs to be shown for burglary is not title ownership. It's lawful possession. And we've definitely shown that here with the statement from the woman that she's been there for over a decade because she represented, she knew Rhea because Rya lived there as her foster child in 2006, I believe, is what the officer testified to. So, she plainly had lawful possession and plainly said these people didn't have consent. In fact, what was described is that a person named Desiree insulted Rya Shabbash and then Rya Shabash and her friend went to the house to seek her out to make a me make uh make good on that on their own. I'd also note everything that attorney Harrington said about who did a battery or not is irrelevant because that's not one of the elements of this offense. The element of burglary with intent to commit battery is whether you have the intent to do it. If you bury if a battery actually happens, that's just an enhancer. So I think all reasonable inferences draw in favor of the state. I think one can conclude that these two people after seeing this insult at a bar went across the street, went to this house for the purpose of settling up and even if Mr. Harrington wants to discount that the officer did testify that Desiree said both of them attacked her, which the court should not. This is party to a crime liability that's shown with like the voicemail showing only other person there who was supportive of Ry attacking this person could have been Alicia Rosland. That's also reasonable inferences. I'd ask the court to bind it over.
>> Judge, one comment. So yes, >> there's no identification that the person overheard on the telephone cheerleading in essence is actually Alicia. Uh >> that's why I said it's a >> secondly, judge, um the defendant is not charged with partying the crime. She's charged with uh actually committing the act.
I'll concede that can be solved quickly with the information >> and it can be and I understand your argument and where you're going Mr. Harrington and this is a preliminary hearing and the court has to determine whether there's probable cause to have a felony charged. Um defenses are not something that the court can take into play in a in a preliminary hearing. I can't make any determination of truthfulness of anyone's statements. I can't go to credibility. I can't view the evidence um like a jury would. Um I have to take the statements in the evidence as presented and it was presented through the testimony of the officer. cases that have conflicting inferences means the state wins and there's enough to at least bind it over where a reasonable officer here in training and uh he reasonably believed that uh a felony was probably committed and therefore was charged in viewing the evidence in the light most favorable to the state bound over >> information Mr. Schmidt, >> I filed the information. It mirrors the criminal complaint.
>> Proceed with an arraignment or set for another date. Mr. Harrington, >> can we set this for another date simply because uh it's a technical defect, but I think it has to be charges as a part of the crime and if Mr. Schmidt is charging these as the information um in the complaint, I want to have an opportunity to look at that before I have my client please.
>> Yes, I understand.
>> Another day, please.
>> Mr. Few things I'd say to that is if you look at the annotated statute for party of crime, it says it does not need to be alleged. Also, by having the prelim, you waved any arguments against structural defect.
>> Here's the thing. I'm This is a discussion that attorneys can have outside of the presence of the courtroom. Therefore, I'm going to set it for another date. You can figure it out. Um, does May 28th at 9:15 work?
>> Judge, I'm >> Oh, you're fishing.
>> I'm fishing in Canada. I'm sorry. How about >> that? Was mine my mistake thinking you're only going for a day.
How about June 9th? Uh July 9th at that 10:30. That'll >> Nope. That's way too far. I can do 61.
June June 1st.
>> I'll be here on another case on June 1st. That'll work.
>> What What time are you here? I didn't look. Um I don't know what time you're here, but we can figure that out.
>> Mr. Harmon's bail hearing. I think that's a I left the notice in the f in the truck.
>> Oh, you are here at 1:30. So June 1st at 1:30 we'll have an arraignment. Um we can preset that other July date for a status if that's what you would like.
>> That makes sense. Judge >> says preset a status for July 9th at 10:30. July 9th at 10:30. Arraignment will be June 1st >> 1:30.
>> We set a status and an arraignment.
>> Yeah. Just to keep them on the same path, the codefendants. All right, Miss Rosen, you can come up here and get your notice and you're free to go. Thank you.
Mr. Ramstrom.
>> Yes.
>> All right. We will go on the record in the matter 26 CM28 26 CM29. State Wisconsin versus Matthew Ramstrom. The state appears through District Attorney Kevin Schmidt in person. Mr. Ramstrom appears by telephone conference with approval of the court. We're set today for a status conference. Mr. Ramstrom uh participated in and completed a domestic violence course um through an online course. The offer was to have him do the Dave Hatch restorative justice course and plead to an ordinance violation. Um Mr. Ramstrom, were were you able to complete that program?
>> I I thought it was like the whatever you sent me on I I Googled it and I did the one Again, we we went over this at the last hearing. We went over this at the last hearing that that was what the court ordered on your bail bond, but that is not the offer from the state.
Um, but I do have >> You want me to meet with a guy with some fella?
>> That's Mr. Schmidt.
>> Okay.
>> No, Mr. Schmidt is looking at the case.
He's the district attorney. He has final say in the cases. This is an actual ADA case, but the ADA is off today >> cuz that course definitely covered a lot of a range of things.
>> It's not for you to negotiate with the court. It's not then negotiate with the court thing. It's a negotiate with the district attorney.
>> I see that my assistant reviewed what he uh did online. He did think it should satisfy it. So my indication here is because he did that the offer would be DC for costs only.
>> So plead to a disorderly conduct.
>> Yes.
>> Not an ordinance. The the misdemeanor.
>> That's what his notes seem to indicate.
>> All right. So he will accept that course that you did and the offer is plead to a disorderly conduct without any domestic abuse attached or costs only. Are you accepting that offer, Mr. Ramstrom.
>> What does that mean? That I still pay a fine?
>> Yeah, it would be a fine, a court fine for the case.
>> Yeah, like we were talking before.
>> Correct.
>> Okay. And and then then this is closed and >> then it's closed and done.
>> Okay. Yeah, cuz this has been exhausting.
>> All right. So, you are appearing by telephone conference. Do you understand you have the right to be here in person?
>> Yes, your honor.
>> And you do you wish to settle this matter and have be take a plea and and and be sentenced by telephone conference?
>> Am I am I looking at like jail time or something?
>> Um the offer is for just the fine.
>> Okay. Like no probation or jail and nothing like that.
>> Well, that's what the offer is from the state. Yes. to plead to a disorderly conduct for a fine only.
>> Okay. What's like a I don't get it. Like you're trying to put me in jail.
>> Mr. Ramstrom, the offer from the state is plead to a disorderly conduct.
They're going to recommend to the court that it's only a fine. Yes, the court could. If I thought that this was serious, if I thought that this was cray cray serious um and that you should be punished more, I could as a judge punish you more and I could as a judge sentence you to 90 days of jail. However, the recommendation from the state because you did that program and it exceeded what they were expecting is for costs of fine only.
>> Okay.
>> So, do you wish to accept that offer?
>> Yes.
>> All right. And you're pleading and being sentenced by telephone. Do you wish to um continue today by telephone or do you want to set it up for an in-person date?
For what?
>> To be no to be here, sir. For court.
>> I I need to know if you want to take care of this today by telephone or if you want to say, "You know what, judge?
I'd rather be there in person and I rather look at you in the face. When I get told what a disorderly conduct is and what all the things mean, I rather be in person. Do you want to be in person or by telephone?"
>> Isn't it just a misdemeanor?
>> Yes, it sure is. is misdemeanor.
>> It is surely duty highly lily a misdemeanor.
>> Whoa.
>> It's the It's what I have to do, sir. I have courts that say that there are certain things that I have to do on my job on the record. That's one of the things I have to ask you. Do you want to do it by telephone or do you want to be here in person?
>> No, your honor. I'm I'm fine doing it by telephone.
>> Excellent. Formal motion to remove domestic abuse enhancer.
>> So made >> granted. So, Mr. Ramstrom, how old are you?
>> 40.
>> Can you read, write, you understand the English language?
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Any drugs, alcohol, medications, or mental illnesses or disorders?
>> No.
>> Um, do you understand you would have the right to go to trial? You would have the right to an attorney. You would have the right to have yourself or an attorney cross-examine the state's witnesses or call witnesses to testify for you. You would have the right to testify on your own behalf or remain silent and not have your silence used against you. You would also have a right to have a jury trial in which 12 of your peers would need to reach a unanimous decision as to a guilty verdict or find you not guilty.
And you would also have the right to have the state prove your guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Do you understand all of that?
>> Yes, your honor.
>> Do you understand that if you're not a citizen of the United States, your plea could result in your deportation?
Yes.
>> You understand the state would have to prove on or around February 7th, 2026 in Bernett County, Wisconsin in a private place you engaged in abusive or otherwise disorderly conduct which tended to provoke a disturbance that is a misdemeanor.
Maximum possible penalty could be a fine of up to $1,000 or 90 days of incarceration or both. Do you understand that charge and what the maximum penalty could be?
>> What it could be, but we've already negotiated what the penalty is, right?
>> Again, I can do what I want. I'm the judge, but that is the recommendation.
>> I'll take this to trial. I don't know why I don't know why you can't, >> sir. I just have to do my job, sir. And the law makes me say all these things on the record, sir.
>> Okay.
Yes, I I understand. All right, that could be that could be a maximum possible penalty. The recommendation again from the state is a fine and cost only. So you understand that if I thought that this was outrageous and very abusive and very violent and very harassing, I could sentence you up to 90 days.
>> I understand, your honor.
>> All right. Okay. Now, are you admitting here today that uh your behavior that day would meet the definition of the disorderly conduct under Wisconsin law?
>> Not at all.
>> You don't think you were disorderly or you provoked a disturbance?
>> Absolutely.
>> Oh my god, you are awful.
>> You're coming here in person and we're going to do this in person. I can't do it because A, you want to talk over me all the time. B, I can't look at your eyes and say, "Shut up. See, you're not understanding anything.
>> No, I I understand for fully like I was out of line.
>> You were out of line. And what I'm asking you >> to have in contact >> the definition I gave you for disorderly conduct. Your conduct that day was otherwise disorderly and it provoked a disturbance. Correct.
>> Correct. So, you're pleading guilty to the disorderly conduct because you're guilty of that conduct. Correct?
>> Correct.
>> All right. Has anyone threatened you or promised you anything for you to plead guilty today?
>> No, ma'am.
>> You're doing so freely and intelligently. That means you are telling the court you fully understand what you're doing.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> And voluntarily.
>> Yep.
>> Do you have any questions for the court or for Mr. Schmidt, the district attorney. Before I proceed, >> no, your honor.
>> As to count two, disorderly conduct without an enhancer, how do you wish to plead?
>> As guilty, I guess.
>> Are are you guessing it or do you know it?
>> Yeah.
>> You're plead pleading guilty.
>> Correct.
>> All right. The court will find uh your plea of guilt is done knowingly, intelligently, and voluntarily. I'm going to find that you understand your constitutional rights and what it means to wave and give up those rights. I'm going to find a factual basis to accept your plea of guilt. Based on that, I will find you guilty of disorderly conduct. The remaining charges in the other case will be dismissed and read in for purposes of sentencing. Judgment of conviction will be entered today.
Argument, Mr. Schmidt. Uh, this is minor behavior around an injunction that has since been dismissed. This is appropriate. I'd ask that you follow.
>> Mr. Ramstrom, what do you want the court to know? Anything? You can make a statement.
>> No, your honor.
>> All right.
>> Like this all to be over with so I can go on with my life.
>> I understand the facts of this case. I understand the the facts of you and your ex or the the mother of your children.
Um, I understand the situation. it is not uh does not rise to a an entirely serious level. You are admitting responsibility and being accountable and pleading guilty to a disorderly conduct.
So, I do think that it's appropriate. Um I don't think you're a risk to the community. Therefore, the court will follow the recommendation. $500 cash.
You have that posted. You are good to go. No further money is owed to the court. Um you have 20 days to appeal.
Should you fail to appeal within 20 days, you do lose that right. I do need to order your DNA. You need to call the sheriff's department and see if they have it. If they do, you're good to go.
If not, they'll just come in and request that you provide a swab of your DNA. But in a case like this, you do have the ability to request it be expuned from the Kotus system through a written letter to the Department of Justice, the Wisconsin Department of Justice, not to the court. All right. Anything else?
>> All right. Not for me.
>> Nope, I understand that >> there's nothing further than we are adjourned.
>> Mr. Lock, is that you on the Samsung?
You are muted. And I hit a button to ask you to unmute and I'm now hit something to ask you to start your video. There you are. How are you doing today?
Are you Mr. Lock?
I don't know what's going I'm I should be in there. Um I will hit a button again un to ask you to unmute >> there.
>> There we go. All right.
>> Are you m Are you Mr. Lock?
>> Uh are you Ryan?
Because I'm going to tell you, I I need to I need to understand who you are because I've s when I saw you at the last hearing, you were in custody and you were really really tiny. So I'm I need to be able to to know so I can put your your picture of your face in my head to associate things. Um so I am speaking with Ryan Lockach.
>> Uh object.
Um >> sir, well if if we're if this is the route it's going to go and I think I've been very super fair to you and um with your bail and with all of those other things, if this is how it's going to go, then I will never allow you to be by Zoom again and we can get a warrant and we can go that route. So if you want to cooperate and you want to participate and be nice to me as I am nice and respectful to you, we can go about it that way. How would you like to go about it?
Um, I am trying to speak and you are >> All right. So, here's the thing.
>> Nope. I'm letting you speak and you want to speak and tell me all about your your contract and how you're going to hold me responsible.
>> I'm not contracting anybody. I'm not saying any of that.
>> I'm just trying to speak my my uh rights. That's it.
>> On your birth certificate, did your parents name you Ryan Lockach?
Yes or no?
And I did grant you leniency, Mr. Lock, to appear by video. I have every right to never allow that to happen ever. You understand that?
>> Yes or no?
>> I am I'm asking you a Can I ask you a question?
>> No. Not unless you answer my question.
Do you understand what I said? Yes or no?
>> I objected. And it sounds like the court is trying to get me into their jurisdiction. We will go on the record in the matter. 26 CF46 26 TR306, State of Wisconsin versus Ryan Lock. The state appears through district attorney Kevin Schmidt in person. We have Emma Hanu appearing in person. Um Ryan Lockach appears uh by video conferencing. He did call and ask permission of the court. He was uh being a cooperating um individual and human being. However, he is failing to cooperate here today. Therefore, the court is stating on the record, "At no time in the future, at any time whatsoever, Mr. Lock, may you appear by video conferencing or telephone, your hearings will always be inperson in-person hearings. With regards to today, the court will quash the warrant.
I don't have to do that, but I'll be nice and I'll quash the warrant. I'm resetting it to another date and time.
Miss Hanu has asked to withdraw. I usually ask for information and go into it. I'm not going to today, Miss Hanu.
You may be withdrawn. The court is going to reset this uh to another date and time. Um, you were legally served. I have all of that information. So, I do know that because you were in my custody, and the court did give you leniency, did modify your bond, was trying to work with you, Mr. Lock.
However, you refuse to work with the court, and the court finds that to be completely disrespectful. Therefore, I am setting this for another date and time. Mr. Schmidt, is this a your case or a file case?
>> It is assistant district attorney, your honor.
>> That's correct.
>> All right. So, what I'm going to do here today is I am resetting it for um May 27th in person at 2:45. May 27th.
2:45.
We shall see you then. I strongly recommend that you uh call the public defenders office and you get another attorney appointed to you. I'm resetting it. Thank you very much. We are a jour.
That just happened.
Oh yes, that just happened. Bye. Can we get a by in chat, ladies and gentlemen?
You know, you know, when I saw that happen and immediately in my head, I was like, that's that's how we're ending it tonight. That Mogan, she every time she does that, she sounds like my c my uh one of my cousins. She does that same type of thing. Bye.
It's so funny. Oh my dear god. Ladies and gentlemen, it got out of control.
I mean, what happened? By the way, Rhonda, thank you for that link. We are redirecting over to Hutch right after this. Very soonly, he's doing a little premiere.
YouTube's been giving him a headache. He finally got a link for me. I got that redirect put in place. Hang out ladies and gentlemen for another sovereign crazy story.
You know where there's one.
I mean, you can't stop crazy.
That's the real lesson with all these sovereign idiots. You just can't stop crazy. Crazy will always be really crazy.
Ladies and gentlemen, I just don't even want to say about all these cases tonight. It was a mess. It was all a mess. And people just kept putting their feet in their mouth. One after the other after the I mean from Hellin all the way through with Judge Chad, Judge Simpson for God's sake had all those. It never stops with these guys, right? And poor Judge Moan. She was not in the mood today. Not in a mood to put up with it at all.
Ain't nobody going to roll over here.
But speaking of rolling, ladies and gentlemen, get those credits rolling, shall we?
Hey, look at all these wonderful people here. Mud right at the very top. Rhonda, Kieran, and Julie Sassy.
Want to thank you all for hanging out tonight. Thank you everybody, especially Hutch out there in the chat.
Sovereign legal encounters I united I I can never remember the right name. Hey, he's Hutch. Divine Mystic Whispers Julie Sassy Kimy M Becky D Ali B from Tennessee Kiranoth Olive Cat. Bye.
Thank you all very much for coming by tonight. We do this every single night of the week. And hey, there's one more night to go. And uh we'll probably have a break of some sort on Monday. I don't know. I'll probably have some stuff I can show. I did not mean to rhyme. That was kind of a weird time. Oh, I can't stop now. Okay. Okay. We're ending this thing. My name is Lone Wolf. I am your host. These here little Gettogethers. I am your curator for this crazy channel.
And I am out.
Bye.
Um, is it Thursday yet? Oh, it is. Get out of here. I don't have anything else. Go away. Bye. Go watch Hutch. Good show.
Great. Thank you for all hanging out.
You all rock. I love you all. Bye.
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