Tracking hantavirus to a specialized quarantine center in Nebraska | Katie Pavlich Tonight Full Show

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[00:00:02]Hello and welcome to Katy Pavlish.

[00:00:04]Tonight, the ceasefire with Iran is on life support and President Trump says his patience with the regime is running thin. So, what's next? We're digging into that and responding to the critics who claim the US is doing Israel's bidding. Plus, remember the savage trend aragu gang? Well, they flooded into our country during the Biden administration and took over entire apartment complexes like this one in Colorado. Tonight, we have a major nationwide crackdown to tell you about. and the mayor of a California city just admitting to acting as a foreign agent for America's biggest adversary. More on the serious charges she's facing tonight. But first, it's a cruise no one would ever want to be on. A drift in the Atlantic when a passenger dies after picking up a very rare virus that most people aren't familiar with. Then his wife falls ill and dies from the same virus. The scenes of people in head-to-head protective gear and questions about passengers aboard the ship potentially spreading the disease brought back terrible memories of early 2020 as CO 19 began to spread. Tonight, the 18 Americans who were aboard the Envy Hondas have returned stateside via State Department airlift. Two are now receiving care at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta.

[00:01:20]The others were transported to the Nebraska Bioontainment Unit and National Quarantine Unit near Omaha. In addition, the Maryland Department of Health is now monitoring two residents out of an abundance of caution after they were on a flight with one of the cruise ship passengers infected with HANA virus.

[00:01:37]After everything we were put through during the pandemic, it's important we and our leaders don't make the same panic-driven mistakes and bad decisions which had severe and long-lasting consequences. Let's not make the so-called cure worse than the disease.

[00:01:51]The good news is scientists have been studying haunt virus for decades and it's not easily transmitted between humans as President Trump reiterated today.

[00:02:01]Now the one thing with this one is that it's much harder to catch and we've had it for a long we've it's been around for a long time. People are very familiar with it. So uh you know I hope it's fine. All I can do is everything that a president can do.

[00:02:18]>> The risk to Americans from pontirus remains extremely low according to CDC officials and common sense. But these facts haven't stopped fears from spreading, especially on social media with each new development. To set the record straight, let's bring in the senior scholar at John Hopkins Center for Health Security, Dr. Amish Aala, along with psychotherapist and author of Therapy Nation, Jonathan Albert. Great to see all of you. Dr. Let's start with you. Um, can you please just explain to us how the haunt virus is spread? Can you break down how it's transmitted in this case between humans and whether people should be nervous about this in their everyday lives as we're hearing these reports from this cruise line?

[00:02:59]>> Hont virus is usually a rodent to human and then it's a dead end. It doesn't usually go human to human. There is one version of haunt virus the Andes VI virus which is dominant in Argentina that is responsible for this cruise ship outbreak and that has the ability to go personto person in certain circumstances. There have been outbreaks that have occurred. Oftent times people have close contact with each other.

[00:03:22]Looking at the the outbreak reports there there's some questions about how people actually get infected but usually it's close contact sharing utensils sharing a bed and that's what's happened. But that is something that is a constrained ability to transmit. It's not something that transmits like influenza or COVID or or certainly not measles. So for the general public, they don't need to change their everyday life because of this. Yes, it's a public health emergency, but it's not an epidemic or pandemic threat.

[00:03:50]>> Uh so just to follow up on that, you say close quarters transmission. I I think people are worried about this being somewhat of a cough. When you say in circum circumstances, can you give examples? you gave the one about the utensils. Um, but if you're sharing a room with someone, for example, on a cruise ship, um, would there have to be some kind of saliva exchange or something else for this to transmit?

[00:04:13]When we say not easily, what exactly does that mean?

[00:04:16]>> So, when you're very close to somebody, you might be talking, you might be eating, little particles of of spit of saliva can go from one person to another. If you're in close quarters sharing the same space, there there's some transmission that occurs. It doesn't seem to spread in the manner that measles does where if somebody is in an elevator, they get off an hour later, someone gets in, they get infected. It doesn't seem to do that.

[00:04:39]There are some questions and we'll need to know exactly what happened on that ship. But at least the initial eight infections seem to all have had close contact with that index patient, that first patient. Whether all of those all had that same level of contact, I think remains to be seen. But in general, this isn't something that you catch easily.

[00:04:58]And we've seen these outbreaks kind of end when you kind of put measures in place to separate some of the people that were were infected. And we've had imported cases in the past in the United States with no secondary transmission.

[00:05:11]>> Right. Well, and the initial reporting is that the couple that died on the ship went on a bird watching excursion to a dump outside of a city that was avoided by locals and there were lots of rats at this dump because they were looking for certain kinds of birds and then they went and got back on the ship. So, I'm sure we'll learn more about that. But Jonathan, we all went through the CO 19 uh pandemic. Lots of people got sick, many people died, but there was a mental health aspect of that as well. Mental health worsened. there was a terrible loneliness crisis. Substance abuse became a huge problem. So what about this aspect of the lockdowns that people saw that they're seeing now with these reports about haunt virus and they're saying I don't want to go back to that.

[00:05:54]I remember what that was like. Uh how should they be feeling right now when they're having a sense of fear not about even just the virus but about the the reaction to the pandemic?

[00:06:04]>> Yeah, and Katie, thanks for having me.

[00:06:06]Uh I think it's important to uh first of all listen to what the doctor just said.

[00:06:10]it's not easily spread and this certainly is not covid and I think what's happening now with some people is uh they are thinking about covid and that's the most recent uh pandemic that we went through so naturally our brains will go back to that and that's the way anxiety works our brain tends to go back to the worst most recent worst case situation that we suffered or went through uh and that's what we know and that's what we're going back to but it's really important to make a distinction between fact and fiction. And fiction is really what drives anxiety. So whether it's someone who's afraid of flying because they're afraid the plane may crash or a medical situation like we're we find ourselves in now. Uh it's really important to stick with the facts of the situation.

[00:06:56]>> So doctor, the the Americans who were on board that cruise, they've returned from the ship. They've been safely transported to a number of facilities across the country, Nebraska, Georgia for quarantining and treatment. Um, do we know how long they'll be kept there and what the process is like for someone who has this disease? How long does it take them to get over it? What's the survival rate?

[00:07:17]>> So, the survival rate is about 70 70% or so. It has a case fatality ratio of about 30 35%. The treatment, there's not a specific treatment. It's supportive care, often ICU level care, supplemental oxygen, maybe a mechanical ventilator.

[00:07:31]That's that's likely what will happen if someone gets severe illness. We don't have any severe illness yet in the United States, but we have to anticipate that might occur in some of those individuals. The incubation period is about 42 days. So that means people have to watch themselves for 42 days to make sure they're not developing any signs or symptoms that could be consistent with haunt virus. That doesn't all mean that they have to be at that quarantine place the entire 42 days. I think after about 3 days, they're going to start to let people do home monitoring with local public health, checking in on them to make sure that nothing is going the the wrong way. And and that's probably what will happen for a lot of those patients once we get through this initial screening at Nebraska at >> Emory.

[00:08:14]So Jonathan, you know, of course we have we're live in an age of social media, which is a good thing on many many levels, but also certain things can feel like they are major events when they are are relatively minor. Of course, honor is not minor, but when it comes to hearing about this case and then hearing about another case and having someone else who's infected, it seems like people catch on to the social contagion and it can feel like it's a bigger issue than it may be, at least at this point.

[00:08:41]Can you talk about the social side of this? Yeah, and social media can be a really useful tool in many ways, but it can also be really harmful and unhealthy. And it's one thing to consume information and get the facts and go to a good source like like the CDC. Uh but if you're, you know, turning to your favorite uh wellness influencer online, that might be problematic. And that's part of what I talk about in my forthcoming book, Therapy Nation, how misinformation can spread. we have our influencers online and they're just giving out bad information and that can make us actually more anxious and more depressed and certainly we saw that during COVID where people were just spreading information around that wasn't true. Uh so >> including the CDC by the way >> correct and we have to be uh really careful about the information that we consume and I do suggest people go to a reputable source and stick with that.

[00:09:36]>> All right well we will continue to watch it. Dr. Amish Adalia and Jonathan Alpert. Thank you so much for sharing your expertise and also Jonathan's book Therapy Nation comes out on May 19th.

[00:09:46]Thank you so much for joining me.

[00:09:50]>> All right. Well, what remains of the regime in Iran continues to make demands despite holding very few if any cards.

[00:09:56]Its latest response to the US arrived over the weekend and President Trump called it quote totally unacceptable and said the already fragile ceasefire was on life support. The sticking point yet again, Iran's nuclear ambitions preventing the regime from gaining nuclear capabilities is a main goal of Operation Epic Fury. As the president emphasized again today, >> I have the best plan ever. I mean, Iran has been defeated militarily totally. Uh they have a little left. They probably built up during this period of time.

[00:10:26]We'll knock that out in about a day. But I have a plan. You know, it is a very simple plan. I don't know why you don't say it like it is. Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.

[00:10:37]>> And while the US blockade continues to choke Iran's economy, President Trump's attention turns to China where where he will travel later this week. Joining me now to discuss, Megan Mobs, director of the Center for American Safety and Security at the Independent Women's Forum. Brett Breuan, global situation room president, and James Robbins, dean of the Institute of World Politics.

[00:10:56]Thank you all for being here. So, Megan, uh, let's start with you. Again, the U US has waited for this proposal response from Iran's regime. It's refused to accept our terms. It's lost its military. They're being crushed economically. They get most of their uh goods and services through the ports, which have been completely blockaded.

[00:11:14]We're also hearing tonight that the United Arab Emirates has secretly carried out strikes against Iranian targets, including some of their oil facilities. So, um where are we uh in this situation? And are we really in a ceasefire given Iran is shooting at folks and there are other people in the region shooting back?

[00:11:32]>> Well Katie, the president said it himself. We are clearly this ceasefire is on life support. And so I think what we're seeing right now, I think we're going to see some concentrated effort on that diplomatic track. I think you're going to see the president really aggressively pushing Xi on the economic front in order to potentially push Iran to the table. But at the end of the day, the president has been very clear. He will do whatever it takes in order to ensure that Iran doesn't go nuclear, and that means all options are on the table.

[00:12:00]So, at this point, I'm just going to say that and let the president's actions speak for themselves.

[00:12:04]>> So, tonight, our owner, Kelly Meyer, spoke with the president and he said, quote, "I'm not going to talk to you about that." Referring to plans uh for responding to Iran before he leaves for China uh at the end of the week. But James, you know, here at home, of course, there's been some pressure. The main effect of the war has been the price of oil and gas. The president said today that he's looking at suspending the federal gas tax for a period of time. This would require Congress to get involved, but is that something that could be temporarily helpful and give him some more time for strategic patience as they figure out what to do next?

[00:12:40]>> Uh, yeah, I think it'd be fantastic. You know, as a longtime driver, I've never liked paying a gas tax. And anything that can bring prices down, I think, is a positive thing. Uh the best way to bring prices down, of course, is to get back to having the straight hormuz open and getting oil prices back down to where they were. And that may be the object of whatever potential new military strike is, that it would be concentrated in the Hormuz area uh in order to take out Iran's naval capabilities there. whatever weapons they have stockpiled uh the things that they're using to enforce this blockade uh from their side. So that could be uh that would be a more durable way of bringing gas prices down. But if they want to get rid of the gas tax, I think it's fantastic.

[00:13:27]>> Yeah, I I think Americans would appreciate that as well. Um Brett, of course, the Israeli military, specifically the Air Force, as the Secretary of War has said, have been an amazing capable partner throughout Operation Epic Fury. Um, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had this to say on 60 Minutes about US aid to Israel. Take a listen. We get far more in return for the quote aid that we give to Israel. We don't have time to get into all of that, but what's your response to hearing the prime minister say, "Yeah, we're we're happy to be on our own and without US military aid."

[00:13:58]>> Desperation, Katie. Um, he has backed Israel into a very unpopular corner here in Washington. And this is his way of trying to get out of it, saying you don't have to um subsidize our military anymore because both on the Democratic side as well as on the Republican side that wouldn't get a whole lot of support these days. And can I just add Katie, where is Trump's plan? We've been sitting around now waiting as he said this was a short excursion. He said it was going to take 6 to 8 weeks. As we now look at month three and he's not got any plan that he's presented to Congress, the American people. He's, you know, suggested that legally he's not required even though the law is pretty specific about 60 days. So, I think it's darn time that Trump comes to the people and says, "Here's my plan to get your gas prices down, to get the Straight of Hormuz open, and oh, by the way, the nuclear threat, you know, there is no evidence he's presented to the American people about what that imminent threat was."

[00:14:58]>> That's well, that's actually not true.

[00:15:00]But, uh, Megan, the president the president the president's domest they've clearly lined out in their objectives that the nuclear program was being protected by this massive ballistic missile. Yeah, but there wasn't a nuclear program, Katie. That's the point.

[00:15:14]>> But there's there's still So, you're admitting that they annihilated it. The point was they were building a ballistic missile program that would protect them and allow them to continue developing their nuclear program despite the attacks on their nuclear facilities. Um, but Megan, do you just want to respond to that? I mean, the president has had a domestic uh energy agenda that has allowed us to blunt a lot of the blow when it comes to the prices here. Uh, the Iranian economy is crumbling. It's a matter of waiting it out. But also unlike previous presidents, this president isn't going to give the enemy a timeline as we've seen in failed wars in Afghanistan, for example.

[00:15:47]>> Well, it just seems like what you want is the past failures of previous administrations which had no plan just emboldened the regime and got us to where we are now. And the reality is we had to do something. Doing nothing for 47 years, sending money to the regime, expecting them to change predicated on the ideology was foolish. And as a result, we had to take aggressive action in order to do just that. And what we're seeing is China, Russia, all acting in concert with Iran against our interests.

[00:16:17]So the reality is something had to be done. I would much prefer an offensive action rather than waiting for them to do something to us even though they've already been doing stuff to us for 47 years. And just to answer that point, Katie, about what Net and Yahoo said, I think yes, that is strategic and the return on an investment is substantial.

[00:16:37]It is.1% of our federal budget, we get far more out of it in terms of projecting power and cooperation with Israel, who we've seen is a capable military ally that we need in the Middle East. And any critic that doesn't agree with that, I would argue tends towards the anti-semitic and not the actual realist they claim to be.

[00:16:56]>> Yeah. the proterrorism wing of the Democratic party has been quite strong.

[00:17:00]Uh but James, let's get to China because the president is headed there after delaying the trip. He's going to meet with Xi Jinping. Of course, we just found out today that the mayor of Arcadia, California, admitting to ACT as the legal foreign agent for China. Uh we also saw there was an indictment in Las Vegas for of a Chinese national trying to sell pills to Americans, which would eventually kill many of them. Um, so in terms of what they're doing to us domestically and what the president's goals are, he's also traveling with a number of business leaders, Elon Musk, for example. What are you looking for uh to get out of this trip with China?

[00:17:35]>> Uh, well, yes, the US is rife with Chinese espionage and uh we need to really beef up our counter intelligence to take care of that. But with respect to this trip, I think the president is going to lead with economic issues. He's looking for that trillion dollar deal where China will come over here and invest money, build some factories over here. Factories which could also be used for spying, I might point out. But uh but nevertheless, I think that's what he's going to lead with. Uh maybe also talk about Taiwan and of course uh the Iran issue. You know, it's interesting that coming out of Iran's meeting in Beijing uh with the Chinese, China's message after that was that the straight of Hormuz has to be open. It was aimed at Iran. the Iranians omitted that from their statement. So I think there's a little tension between Iran and China with respect to Hormuz and the Chinese know that it's Iran that has caused this issue and it's creating problems for China. So perhaps the United States and China uh can find some common ground there in order to pressure Iran to stop doing what they're doing.

[00:18:38]>> And maybe he'll bring home Jimmy Lie.

[00:18:40]Wouldn't that be an amazing thing? Megan Mob, Megan Mobs, Brett Breuan, and James Robbins. Great to see you both. All of you, thank you so much for being here.

[00:18:47]Appreciate it.

[00:18:47]>> Thanks, Katie.

[00:18:48]>> Thanks.

[00:18:50]Well, have you been watching Nancy Pelosy's portfolio this month? Because it looks like she just made three million bucks in one week. The man who created the Pelosi stock Tracker is here to talk about that and some other suspicious trades linked to the war with Iran. Plus, the California establishment is getting nervous about Spencer Pratt and their new attack ad just backfired.

[00:19:12]Pratt thinks LA needs thousands more police officers rather than more social workers.

[00:19:27]Welcome back. Amid all the uncertainty on oil prices during the Iran war, a number of suspicious trades have reportedly made billions for some investors betting on the market. Now, the Justice Department is stepping in to investigate whether these incredibly well-timed trades were made with insider information. The first one was spotted in late March, just minutes before Trump announced he would be delaying attacks on Iran Iranian power infrastructure, causing oil prices to plunge. That same pattern occurred again before Trump announced his initial ceasefire with Iran. Then again before it came out that Trump and Iranian officials were discussing reopening the Strait of Hormuz. and then a fourth time when Trump extended the ceasefire with Iran.

[00:20:08]Each of those moves had a major impact on oil prices. Joining us now is someone who tracks suspicious trades for a living. Chris Josephs is a creator of the viral Nancy Pelosi stock Tracker.

[00:20:18]He's also the creator of an investment platform named Autopilot. Great to see you, Chris. So, what do you make of all of this? Are people just buying the dip, as they say, or do they have insider information?

[00:20:29]>> I mean, I don't know if it's buying the dip. I don't know if it's buying the bottom perfectly, selling the top perfectly. I think if you do it four times in a row, it becomes a little bit suspicious where it's like, okay, fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, shame on you. Uh, as you said, four times. And I think every single time it also kind of goes with the flow of it.

[00:20:49]When the straight of horm is about to open, they kind of they place their trade to benefit from that. When the straight is about to close, they take the opposite trade and then they benefit from that. And on the fourth time, I think it's good that the Department of Justice gets involved and actually starts investigating it. I don't know what will happen, but uh four times in a row, you got to say something is going on here.

[00:21:11]>> Yeah. So, as you said, DOJ is looking into it. You never want the federal government on your tail, but do you think it's difficult to track down who may have been making these trades or do you think it'll be easy given they did it four times?

[00:21:23]>> Yeah, I I think it'll be hard. So these sorts of trades, they aren't as public as the stuff that we see from the politicians. So these ones we would be able to see if it was a politician making these trades, but I don't think it is. We haven't seen any since March 23rd. These might be uh people, you know, private institutions, hedge funds, u people in that nature that I think would be making these trades, but I don't know where they would get the information. I don't know how they necessarily would do it. the politicians, they're still making shady trades on kind of like specific stocks, but with this sort of thing, it's a much harder to uh pinpoint who exactly is doing it because all of this is private.

[00:22:02]>> Well, last time you were on the show, we discussed a US soldier who was arrested and charged for betting on the Maduro raid because he was on the raid. He bet on it before it happened. Um, do examples like this and that investigation show that the Trump administration is cracking down on insider trading or is this just scratching the surface?

[00:22:20]>> I I believe the Trump administration is cracking down on it. Um, the DOJ going after it. They're looking into it. They went after the polyarket trader. You know, whether you agree or disagree with it, it was still insidered trading. So, I think the direction is correct. Uh but again I I don't know necessarily how these sorts of large block trades specifically around oil can be investigated by the DOJ because it's all just done on kind of like a private black market for lack of a better way to describe it. It's not like they're going and buying you know Exxon stock which they have but uh buying the individual stocks is an easier way to track it. And I do hope though that the Trump administration does find out what is going on with it just more so for the transparency. Like if they're going to come after the poly market US veteran for trading 30 grand, maybe we should go after the $960 million trade uh just to make it fair.

[00:23:12]>> Yeah. And they clearly have enough money now to pay for a lawyer to defend themselves against the Department of Justice. Um but you mentioned the the shady trades that are still ongoing with members of Congress. Those shady trades though are still legal. Uh, you've reported Nancy Pelosy's portfolio has gone up 10% just in the last month.

[00:23:31]There was another report that showed she made roughly $3 million in just one week this month. That's 18 times her yearly salary in Congress.

[00:23:40]I mean, she keeps doing this. We could all see it as you know best. And yet, it continues. It's crazy.

[00:23:47]>> I I I don't know how to explain it. She started the year off not as well as some of the other politicians, but she's finishing or she's halfway through the year, as high as she's ever been since we've been tracking her. She's up around 228%. She's back to all-time highs. All of the stocks that she owns are also hitting all-time highs. So, the $3 million she made from um last week, mostly came from Nvidia hitting an all-time high, Google hitting an all-time high, and Broadcom hitting an all-time high. And those three companies are uh you know not only major major players in the uh in the chips and the AI race but they also are major beneficiaries of acts that previously they passed. If you remember the chips act back in I believe >> those grants are going out now. Um that's when these grants are kind of like being awarded and Nancy Pelosi owns multiple stocks of >> perfect time to buy the stock. Right.

[00:24:38]Exactly. Yeah. I mean, if you're a regular person, you're lucky to make 10% on the market. Uh, so th those numbers are astonishing. Chris Joseph, thank you for helping us understand all of that and hope to have you back soon. Thank you.

[00:24:49]>> Thank you.

[00:24:53]>> Well, today marks 100 days since Nancy Guthri's disappearance, and Sheriff Nano says he's scaling back resources. Is the PE County Sheriff letting the case go cold?

[00:25:12]The investigation into Nancy Guthri's disappearance has hit a somber milestone. Today marks 100 days since she vanished from her Arizona home. Now investigators are pulling resources and have moved into recovery mode. This grim realization is contradictory to what Puma County Sheriff Nano said over the weekend, claiming that his team was close to solving the case. With less media coverage and less tips coming in, it's easy to lose hope. But Savannah Guthrie reminded us all on Mother's Day that there will never they will never give up looking for their mother.

[00:25:45]Plus, shocking video out of Cambridge, Massachusetts, where a heavily armed gunman went on an afternoon rampage, firing off 50 to 60 rounds in the middle of a busy street near Harvard University. Two people were seriously hurt, and local media outlets identified the shooter as 46-year-old Tyler Brown of Boston. He is now in custody. And remember the violent trend aragua gang members flooded into our country during the OB or the Biden administration. The DOJ just announced charges against more than 25 suspected members of the foreign terrorist organization is part of a nationwide crackdown. More than 80 guns and roughly 18 kilos of drugs, including fentinel, cocaine, and meth are now off the streets.

[00:26:29]Establishment politicians are getting so nervous in California that an ad made to target Spencer Pratt almost produced an endorsement of his proposed policies.

[00:26:38]Take a look.

[00:26:40]>> Republican Spencer Pratt is the last thing Los Angeles needs for mayor. Pratt opposes using taxpayer money to build brand new houses for our unhoused neighbors, saying it's time for the homeless to get help or get out. Pratt thinks LA needs thousands more police officers rather than more social workers.

[00:27:00]>> Believe it or not, that was actually supposed to be attacking Spencer Pratt, not supporting his common sense ideas.

[00:27:07]And speaking of those common sense positions, Pratt released a new ad highlighting how LA's homeless crisis is impacting everyday Angelinos. It shows empty streets with kids locked in their homes because their parents are too nervous to let them out to play. Joining us now, Chris Han, NewsNation political contributor and host of the Aggressive Progressive podcast, and Jason Rance, Seattle radio host. Gentlemen, thank you so much for being here. So, Chris, why are these common sense policies a controversial and b so hard for Democrats to understand in LA?

[00:27:39]>> Well, first, let me compliment him on the uh music he chose, Black Hole Sun.

[00:27:44]One of my favorite songs of the '90s. Uh I don't know if you guys remember it, but I remember it very fondly. Uh look, uh nobody's against the common sense policies of trying to uh allow children to be out in the streets and not be, you know, and to be safe when they do so.

[00:28:00]But I don't think LA is going to elect a reality star to be its mayor when they are so concerned about the reality star that is president of the United States right now destroying the economy of the United States of America. Yes, of course it is. Every election, it's not about it's about Donald Trump. Jason, >> every election's about Trump right now.

[00:28:20]>> We know. We're aware the TDS is strong.

[00:28:23]It's okay. We understand. Um Jason, your truth.

[00:28:27]>> Okay. Yeah, we know. Um Jason, what's your response to this ad?

[00:28:32]>> Clearly making Spencer Pratt's point for him. I mean, they're trying to attack him for saying that they want more police officers when they're criminals roaming the streets. I mean, god forbid that happened.

[00:28:43]>> Yeah. If I'm Spencer Pratt, I hope they pour money into this particular ad campaign. And I hope they post it everywhere and play it all day every day. It highlights precisely the common sense positions that he holds. And it reminds people where the Democrats in Los Angeles and in large part nationwide stand. They want to spend a whole lot of money building brand new apartments for folks who permanently subsidize their housing without getting them any of the treatment. And people in Los Angeles understand that there's a problem with that. And that's why the homelessness crisis has gotten worse, not better.

[00:29:13]There's also clearly a reminder here that it's the Democratic party that forced individual departments to fire cops to cut their funding, creating the very crisis that now Spencer Pratt and so many other Los Angeles are paying attention to. I if the election were held today, he would not win. However, he's going to force Karen Bass into taking other more reasonable positions that should she win re-election, she's going to be held accountable to. And I do think that the problem for the Democrats right now with Spencer Pratt is he's going to bring out voters who might not traditionally vote. And that's the same thing with Donald Trump who was able to reach a bunch of folks who generally you don't reach. And if they weren't so scared of him, they wouldn't be treating him the way that they're treating him right now.

[00:29:55]>> Crime has been a huge problem. Um Chris, you know, Spencer has this uh plan for the homeless uh either, you know, get treatment or get out. Let's take a listen to his position. So Chris, I think that people are tired of the unlimited chances that folks get uh on their dime, but also on the dime of the safety of the city. Um what do you think about that plan just given that Gavin Newsome's approach and the mayor's approach to the homelessness industrial complex in California, but also in other cities and states is failing.

[00:30:30]>> So most homelessness is caused by mental health problems. And I don't know how you're going to cure a mental health problem in three weeks. I do think that getting them help is very important. I haven't seen his plan to fund that and how he would actually get thousands of people this help. And I hope somebody comes up with a plan with that. I think right now the efforts to attack homelessness in uh California, particularly around Los Angeles, have not gone well, to say the least. And I think there needs to be a better effort at that. But Chris, you say that there's the the Spencer Pratt doesn't have a plan to fund this program to help the homeless. Hasn't there been billions of dollars allocated to California from taxpayers to solve this problem? And it's only gotten exponentially worse. So throwing money at it.

[00:31:16]>> I don't think I don't think I don't think they've spent that money wisely.

[00:31:20]Uh I will agree with you on that.

[00:31:22]>> But I have not seen anything from Spencer Platt Pratt that shows that he has any ability to manage a program like that. All it is is tough talk. And when you're not gonna be mayor of Los Angeles, let let's be clear. Let's let's be clear. He's not going to be mayor. He could say whatever he wants because he's never going to have to do it. And the doing it is the hard part when it comes to governing and attacking complex problems like homelessness in California. Democrats have been in charge for a long time in LA and California, and it's been a disaster.

[00:31:51]But Jason, I want to get to another story about crime. Before we play this next video, it is very difficult to watch. Um, a former Broadway dancer who had numerous arrests in the last several months pushed a retired teacher to his death down a flight of stairs in a subway station. The suspect had a psych evaluation at a hospital and was released hours before the murder. Um, so how are we going to be able to fix a system where we let people out who clearly are dangerous to society and then they go on and murder others? I mean, we continue to see this in New York and Seattle and California. uh just over and over again innocent people being attacked uh in preventable scenarios.

[00:32:34]>> That last point is key. This is also very preventable that when you've got bad guys who are either need of mental health assistance or need to stay in prison. You have to do one or the other.

[00:32:45]You can't just simply release them. And we've seen this over and over and over again. These are preventable deaths. The reality in New York, unfortunately, it's the same in Seattle and it's frankly the same in Los Angeles. There's no fix right now because the people in charge don't see this as a significant problem.

[00:32:59]They they'll put out some press release and maybe they'll make some comments after something so egregious like this, but they'll never step back and say, "I'm sorry for implementing policies that have allowed this." Nor will they follow up by saying, "Here's what we're actually going to do next." They keep talking tough about, "Oh, we're going to spend more money on treatment. We're going to do this and that." But then they don't actually do it. they still go back to the same policies over and over and over again that create these victims >> because they're benefiting somehow by not solving the problem. And as we've seen in Washington DC and other states that are in cities that are cooperating with the Trump administration, the murder rates are at the lowest as they've been in in decades, century maybe. Um it can be done and none unclear why Democrats continue to put people in these positions. Chris Han, Jason Rance, great to see you. Thank you for joining me. See you soon.

[00:33:44]>> Good to see you.

[00:33:45]>> Great to have it.

[00:33:48]We talk a lot about honoring service members and the military on this show.

[00:33:51]So, our next guest is making sure no veteran is left behind. He's made it his mission to end veteran homelessness across the country. That's next.

[00:34:08]Tunnel to Towers is an organization formed by the family of 911 hero Steven Siller. He was an FDNY firefighter who died in the September 11th terror attacks. The goal of the organization is to to support every family who lost a service member or first responder in the line of duty, as well as catastrophically injured veterans who returned home from the battlefield. Now, the foundation is taking on veteran homelessness by building dedicated veteran villages nationwide. I spoke with Steven Siller Jr., the son of Steven Siller, about the impact of Tunnel to Towers. Take a look.

[00:34:43]Thanks so much for being with us tonight.

[00:34:47]>> Thank you for having me.

[00:34:48]>> Great to see you. So, you've taken on the admirable task of trying to end homelessness for veterans. There's been, of course, a homeless veteran crisis in this country. You've been rehabbing old hotels into veteran villages where you supply, you know, supportive care to get them back on their feet. What makes these villages different from the typical shelter environment that we've seen in cities across the country?

[00:35:11]Well, what makes these different is the comprehensive amount of work that's gone into them from the base layer of giving these guys the mental health care they need, helping them with addictions, kind of tackling the things that made them homeless in the first place, and then giving them an established place to live to get back on their feet. In Long Island, the Veterans Village we're opening up on Monday, it has been a decrepit building that has been a blight on the community. There's been tons of bad stuff going on there and now it's going to be all about great stuff. So, it's been an incredible journey over there specifically and throughout the country with these veterans villages we've built.

[00:35:49]>> We're coming up in the 25th anniversary of 9/11 and one of the ways your foundation is commemorating that day is with the steel cross, the steel cross America tour with actual steel from the World Trade Center that was gifted to the foundation. Why did you think this would be a tour that was necessary as we approach the 25th anniversary?

[00:36:08]I was nine months old when my father lost his life on 911. So people that were younger than me and didn't live in New York, they don't truly understand what happened that day. And I don't only mean the tragedy, I mean the amount of outpour of beautiful acts, whether it was military service members, first responders who were there on the scene or the way the country responded in the wake of September 11th, supporting one another, upholding one another. And that's really what we want to touch on.

[00:36:38]You know, our mission begins with never forget, but it also means we're never going to forget the uh the actions of all the first responders and military service members on a daily basis.

[00:36:48]>> Absolutely. I was living in Arizona and I was wearing a FDNY sweatshirt after 911 and of course was impacted in lots of different ways as well. So, it's a beautiful thing to remind people of what happened, but the good things that happened as a result of that even though it was such a horrific day. Um, you mentioned that your dad, Stephen, was killed uh on 911. That's why the foundation was was founded. Can can you talk about what you and your uncle Frank have created with Tunnel to Towers for those who maybe aren't familiar and how his legacy has shaped your own life despite him dying when you were so young?

[00:37:21]>> His legacy has had an incredible impact on my own life and through this organization, the lives of thousands, I can't even begin to fathom. Hundreds of thousands of people. You know, there are so many families like me that lost a parent in the line of duty, you know, due to service with the military or as a first responder, and we got to play a role in making sure those kids' lives got a little bit easier. So, it's the greatest gift on earth. We really hit the lottery in terms of things we could do with our time here.

[00:37:51]>> Well, one of the things that you do with your time, one of your signature events is the tower climb where participants climb up 102 floors of the World Trade One World Trade Center to honor first responders like your dad who ran into the towers that day. So, I've been signed up to go to the climb. Uh, do you have any advice for me uh beforehand besides just trucking through it?

[00:38:11]>> I've done it a few times. Uh, I will be doing it this year, so I'll see you there.

[00:38:16]>> Okay, you can help me out.

[00:38:19]It's a little bit of suffering, self-induced, but that suffering is important because it brings you closer, just like that steel does, to what happened that day to those brave men and women who suffered for us, who suffered for people so that they could live, who gave up everything for others. And it's just giving up a little bit. You know, it's a little bit of work to get to the top, but you understand why you're doing it by the time you get up there.

[00:38:42]>> Yeah. It's a very minor thing, little suffering to honor people like your father who ran into those towers that day to save others, putting his life on the line and ultimately making that sacrifice for everybody else. Uh Steven Stiller Jr., thank you for joining us and we'll see you at the climb.

[00:38:57]>> Thank you for having me.

[00:38:59]>> Thank you.

[00:39:01]After the break, experience the Aremis mission from the eyes of the astronauts themselves. We've got incredible new video.

[00:39:19]As good as it gets. Artemis command commander Reed Wiseman sharing never before seen footage on X of the precise moment. Recovery forces open the hatch following their successful mission. The video shows the crew smiling, waving, and overjoyed to see the four astronauts safely inside the capsule after splashdown. What a great day that was.

[00:39:39]Jesse Weber joins me now. Such a fun night of coverage. And I'm sure they were very happy to see them when they got that hatch open. It took a little while, but >> it took a little bit. It was such great footage to get the perspective. Never before seen. Speaking of which, by the way, there's something that never got a lot of attention. There was another uh photo that I don't think a lot of people are talking about. And we're seeing it for the first time. If we have it, we can put it up.

[00:40:02]>> Yeah. It's, you know, nobody talks about that. Nobody talks about Beo the monkey there. And I know you wouldn't want to be in that capsule with him, but >> he doesn't get the credit that he deserves, as you can see.

[00:40:14]>> Well, I just hope he had Nutella as big as your bottle you had. I see. Because then it could keep him happy.

[00:40:21]>> We can only hope. We can only hope.

[00:40:23]>> Exactly. Have a great show. Good to see you.

[00:40:25]>> Good seeing you.