Synthetic opioid analogs like MGM15 are emerging as dangerous alternatives to banned opioids such as OxyContin (oxycodone), with these new substances often being more potent and potentially causing severe respiratory depression; the ongoing challenge in the opioid crisis is that as one substance is banned, another synthetic variant quickly emerges to fill the void, creating a continuous cycle of new dangers that requires constant vigilance and education.
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AMA 10 Years Sober with Prison ExperienceAdded:
What up? What up? What up?
Let's get some goals here.
Background. I don't know if it's coming through your pod mic talking. Test test test.
>> Yeah.
>> Sounds like it's coming through the audio from the laptop >> because you can hear me really clearly.
>> You can hear me really.
>> Uh, hold on.
I don't think I can.
>> What up? What up? What's up, Angela?
>> What's good everybody? What's good, Tik Tok?
Can you change?
>> I know. I'm trying to figure out how to change the the audio, but >> first join.
>> I know. That's what I'm afraid of.
>> Did you try that?
>> Yep.
>> Doesn't What the [ __ ] does it give you there?
>> Maybe you have to restart the stream.
20 people. What's up? What up, Alvin? Oh [ __ ] Bruno. Yeah, that's right. That's right, Jess. Bruno's here. Waiting on a pod. We just released one yesterday.
Check that one out.
>> [ __ ] Come on, man. You got to give us time.
How do I sound, by the way? Is my uh audio sound okay? YouTube, Tik Tok.
>> And if you click on the mic, that's not doing anything.
>> Just mutes it.
>> Yeah, you might. I bet you have to re What about edit?
>> Same deal. Nothing.
>> Same [ __ ] >> Dude, that's bizarre. Glad you liked it, Angelo. Thank you.
>> I mean, I just I don't think it's coming through your mic, but it's your pod mic, but it doesn't really matter.
>> Payment Amazon. What the [ __ ] Hi from UK. What's up, Emma?
Glad to hear that, Alvin.
>> Emma might have emailed us.
That's familiar.
>> Emma, did you email us?
Hey, do you know the shave? I I can't say that word.
What's the closest I've been? Uh, >> not real close. I can't think of a situation where I was like really in danger.
Huge fan. Thank you for everything you do from North Carolina.
My B plug got declined. Yeah, sure.
Shovel these. Yeah, shovel these nuts in your [ __ ] mouth, Brent.
Is that like brand? Yeah, some >> we got 50 people on [ __ ] Tik Tok.
>> Yeah, that's pretty good.
>> Thank you. Thank you, Emma. Appreciate it.
>> Whose birthday is it? Hold on.
>> Saw six on >> Happy birthday to Ela Vinel. Vinel. I don't know how to pronounce that.
Try.
Good try.
>> Got six on eight on YouTube. All right, back up YouTube. Show them the love.
>> YouTube's tough. Thanks for the rose.
Appreciate it.
>> It's probably a weird time to go live for YouTube. Middle of the afternoon.
>> Yeah, I know.
>> Hit that like button. Y'all gave me my favorite podcast. Love to hear that.
Thank you.
>> Don't shoot audio. I should try the live Q&A.
Oh, that's the AI summary.
>> Yeah, I listen every day at work and at home. Thanks, Jenna. Appreciate that.
We do our best.
Smash that like button. Let's get some people in here. Let's get some questions.
Y'all do a phenomenal world. And by world, I know you mean work.
>> Angela's our number one fan, bro.
>> Angela is hanging tough. Thanks, Angela.
Share the live if you can.
What kind of watch I have on? It's really not anything special.
I promise. It's nice. Looks clean. It's not special. It's not expensive.
>> Tik Tok's [ __ ] flying. Currently binge watching the pot on YouTube.
>> That's pretty good.
favorite a meetings in Columbus. There's so many. Thank you for the uh heart me.
Appreciate you.
Everyone likes and subscribed. Angela is hanging tough over here with me. Hey Lou, I love what you guys are doing. I watch every day. Thank you so much.
Appreciate it. Trap God just joined.
The trap god himself. Where's your buddy Aaron? He is He's in here. I think you guys talk about some things. I've never heard of. That's the whole point.
That is why we do this because we talk about things that people don't want to talk about.
>> That is the entire point.
>> Thank you for the heart, me. Appreciate it.
Much appreciated. Haircut looks nice.
Thank you. Thanks, Jess. I can always count on you for compliments.
Maybe I'll come out to Seattle again sometime. We'll see.
>> Wait, is that >> Yeah, Seattle. That's Washington. That's my best BFF from Seattle.
>> Her name is Lindsay.
>> No, >> no, >> no, there's not. It's not like there's a list of, you know, >> besties. Yeah, that's right. Besties.
Washington is great. Have you been to Toronto? No, I can't go to Canada.
I want my brother to come on the pod. so bad.
Kylie, thank you for the rose.
>> Monterey, California.
>> Monterey, California in the house on YouTube.
>> Let's go.
>> Love to see that. I got my dad watching you guys. He's 25. So, we're from Cleveland originally. We're in SoCal now.
>> Nice.
>> Right on.
>> Come back to Cleveland and visit us in Columbus.
>> Yeah. Come see us. Come on the show.
Alaska. Hey from Ohio.
Have you interviewed Have you guys interviewed someone that was still using? Uh, yes. We've done street interviews. So, we've interviewed the homeless people who are still on drugs.
And then as far as people that come into the studio, that's not for us to decide.
We can't say one way or another if the person's still using or not using.
That's that's on them.
Love from New Jersey.
Congrats, Emma. I'm glad your daughter got clean.
San Diego's in the house. Angela's from San Diego.
Pueblo, wait.
>> Oh, Pueblo, Colorado.
Have you ever cut Hold on. Thank you.
Appreciate that, champ. Have you ever cut some had to cut some from an episode because you knew someone was capping? We don't care if people lie.
>> No, we never that. We never done that.
We we don't edit anything out. Uh whatever they say is what goes.
>> And Bruno can attest to that. He does the editing.
>> We usually don't accuse people of lying either. We just let it float on the internet.
>> Yeah. I mean, that's for you guys to determine. If if you want to accuse them of lying, then that's on you. But that's that's not our job. Our job is to let them tell their story as best they can.
>> Wanted to let you know there's something called MGM15. It's a full agonist opioid that's going to explode. Feels exactly like Oxy.
>> If you use it enough, respiratory depression can cure >> depression.
>> I don't know what that means.
>> Where is that at?
>> I It's probably taking over for 70 since they banned 70.
>> I wonder where they're at.
>> I bet it's [ __ ] smoke shop [ __ ] >> Probably.
>> Thank you for the gifts on TikTok. Have you ever had someone come on lying about being sober? Probably.
It's hard to say, you know.
>> People lie about it all the time.
>> Yeah. People People love to lie. And I You know what? I shouldn't say that.
People love to embellish. They want their stories to sound better than they are or more exciting than they are.
>> Make themselves look better on the internet.
>> Yep.
>> Uh 75 to 85 on YouTube or Tik Tok's pretty good.
10. What? [ __ ] 10 people.
Nine people.
>> That's not bad. I mean, we were at like >> MGM15 is stronger than 70.
>> It's synthetic fentinol.
>> I find that hard to believe, but >> I haven't heard anything about that.
>> I don't. Synthetic fentanyl is That's a bold claim, my man. It >> is. That's pretty wild.
>> That is a bold claim.
I should have set my [ __ ] goal for gifts on this.
>> Can you still do it?
>> Can't hear Bruno.
>> Really?
>> Maybe the mic is hooked up >> on when I was watching the >> Yeah. What's up? How you doing?
>> Synthetic heroin. I mean, I I I would venture to guess that anything in these smoke shops are similar to oxies or percoetses or vicodins. I don't think you're going to get anything in a smoke smoke shop that's anything like fentanyl or heroin.
>> Fentanyl is synthetic already.
>> That's correct, Angela. You are right about that.
>> Y >> can you do more 70 if we had people who wanted to come on and talk about it?
Yeah, we'd love to do that. seems to be a hot topic.
>> 70 analog. Okay, we got YouTube jumping over here a little bit now.
>> Yes, MGM15 is a 70 analog. That is my assumption that since they ban 70 in the country, MGM15 is taking its place.
That is my guess.
>> This lighting looks like [ __ ] in here.
>> I know. Well, the Tik Tok looks fine.
>> Yeah, it does. The YouTube. It's just this webcam on here. Yeah.
>> Turn this [ __ ] Where's the >> focus? Turn that [ __ ] on.
>> Oh yeah, >> it just looks a little flooded out. But >> there we go.
>> Turn it down.
>> What is 70 UK? Haven't heard of it.
That's good, Emma. You don't want to hear of it. Apparently, it's terrible. I can't go to Canada because I've got a record. I've got a DUI that they don't want want me there.
>> Wait, really? You can't?
>> Yeah, I'm pretty sure I can't. I know with felonies, you definitely can't. I'm pretty sure with a DUI you can't either.
>> The [ __ ] You have to get that expuned.
>> You can't get it expuned. I'm just stuck with it. It's the only thing left on my record.
>> Damn.
>> Emma, don't worry. I haven't either. I'm in the US.
Yeah. Don't go out seeking 70 because everything I've heard about it is not good.
Literally watch yours and Rise Above every day. Garcia, who's your favorite, us or Rise Above?
>> Yeah, let's hear it.
>> Let's hear the truth. You like us better or Kevin?
>> Just kidding. Shout out to Kevin.
>> Shout out Kevin. He's the best.
>> He's a G.
>> He's the best in the game. Let me tell you yours. Y'all the truth. Yep.
>> Appreciate that.
>> Same. And y'all for sure. You're the best. Thank you. Appreciate you.
>> It's not bad.
>> Considering we haven't gone live in [ __ ] >> six months.
>> Do this every day. Yeah.
Probably be like 100 plus >> level two fan club champ >> people.
>> Thanks for the rose.
>> Liking the live. Nice.
>> Appreciate the rose.
>> Let's go.
>> I'm looking so so well. Thank you, Emma.
I appreciate that. Took a while to get back to this point. Everyone wanted to throw shade at your boy, but he's still here.
>> Still kicking.
>> Still [ __ ] kicking, baby.
>> Thriving.
>> Still kicking.
>> It's only up from here.
>> The haters honestly just helped.
I mean, >> just engagement.
>> I'll get you through it, you know.
>> Let me come work for y'all.
>> Yeah. What are you going to do?
>> Yeah. What are your skill set? What's your skill sets?
>> You got a flash goal. Yes. Yes.
>> No. No. We're not on Instagram live.
Just Tik Tok and YouTube.
>> Just Tik Tok and YouTube. Yeah.
I uh I've never gone live on Instagram.
I should do that. It's been a minute.
Let's try and hit this ice cream cone [ __ ] uh goal here. I know you guys got some ice cream cones in you. You got the camera, too. Street Knowledge. Oh, there's one cone. Eric coming through.
>> Let's go. Eric.
>> Eric Jones.
Morgan's in the house. Morgan, appreciate you, Jay Rut.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Champ coming through with the ice cream cone.
good looking out.
>> He's at home. He's not here.
>> Where is the other guy that's on the show? Yeah, he's not here. He's He's at his house.
>> He's taking care of his kid.
>> Can't you go to Canada ever? I have a DUI, so DUIs can't be expuned. And I'm I'm not 100% on this, but I'm pretty sure that they don't want me in Canada with a DUI.
>> You got to be able to go at some point, though. That seems crazy.
>> I'm pretty sure. I could be wrong.
But I'm pretty sure you can't go to Canada with a DUI.
>> Do a poll.
>> Alanon Bubs. Wow, look at you knowing about Alanon and [ __ ] That's crazy.
Would have never guessed.
>> What's an ice cream cone?
It's on Tik Tok. You got to go to Tik Tok live.
>> Oh yeah, it's on our Tik Tok. Sorry.
That's our Tik Tok goal. We have uh we have a goal here but for 10 yellow super chats but it's just not coming through.
>> Top fans. Okay.
>> Dang. Angela's been she's been here since day one. Day one.
>> Champ four ice cream cones. He's gonna [ __ ] carry me to the goal alone.
Where we at? Six.
Why does it say two?
Invite Chris to co-host. Oh, is he like requesting or something? Who is Chris?
>> I don't know, but I'm not bringing him on.
>> No, sorry, Chris.
>> Sorry, Chris. Love you, Chris.
>> We haven't streamed with anybody else.
>> DUIs can be sealed. I didn't know that.
>> Oh, okay. You got to talk to uh talk to the boy.
>> I have an attorney who did everything and he told me that that's not the case, but maybe it is.
>> Miss Independent with the $5. Thank you so much for the donation.
>> Very generous. Much appreciated.
Got yours sealed in Arizona. Who is your favorite guest? My favorite guest was Lorray from Zanesville.
>> It was pretty cool.
>> Hands down my favorite guest. That woman could tell a story like I have never heard in my life and I was on the edge of my seat the whole time.
>> Yeah, it was nuts.
>> It's a Zanesville murder ring. It was wild.
>> Zainesville is only like an hour away from us, too.
>> Yeah, it's about an hour from Columbus.
Not even really. half hour maybe.
>> Yeah, actually maybe like 45 minutes.
>> My fave podcast at the moment. Love y'all. Thank you so much.
Much appreciated.
The parole officer lady.
Parole officer lady.
>> Is that Bethany?
>> Maybe.
>> Bethany was pretty cool.
>> Yeah, she was cool.
>> 10 more ice cream cones from the champ himself. Dude, he's [ __ ] piling these [ __ ] on.
>> How much does it cost for an ice cream cone?
>> I don't know.
>> Is it like a dollar or like >> Probably not even. It's probably like a quarter.
>> That'd be crazy.
>> Roses are a penny.
Who is your favorite guest in story?
It's Laray Zanesville.
Watching during active use and few relapses now four months clean. Watching from Michigan. Congratulations.
Just come down.
>> Yeah, if you're in Michigan, come down.
Come on the show.
>> Been watching for eight months now. Wow.
>> Hey Lou, love the podcast. Been watching for eight months. Thank you. Appreciate that.
Love the work, bro. I know quite a few people you've interviewed. Yeah, it's a small world.
It is a small world.
>> I don't want to end it.
Hey, thank you so much, Angela.
>> Thank you.
>> Appreciate it. Thank you for the donation.
>> It's very, very generous.
>> You didn't have to do that, but I do appreciate it very much.
13 years sober from alcohol and opiates.
Life of Jay, that leads me to believe that there may be something left that you're still doing, such as marijuana.
Am I right?
I'm taking a wild guess that you smoke weed still being homeless.
>> Absolutely. Yep.
>> Yep.
>> God, I'm good.
>> Yep.
>> I am good.
>> Through the screen and everything, >> didn't even have to see your face.
>> I just know when people call out their specifics of I've been clean from this specific thing for this specific amount of time that they're still letting something slide.
>> Yep.
Send flow state for 200 jewels.
>> It'll grip rocks.
>> What's this?
>> Flow state. Send a flow state.
>> I don't know what that is.
>> 200 jewels.
>> Oh, is it like uh on Twitch when you send like those little >> like subs?
>> No, it's not subs. I think they're like Kids of addicted parents. Oh, that's interesting.
>> How old are you?
>> Have you seen the episode that we did with uh who what was that girl's name?
We had someone come on who had addicted parents that we did an episode with.
>> Believe it or not, I didn't smart start smoking until after I got sober. It keeps me off the mental health meds.
>> Did that.
>> Hey, whatever works, buddy. Struggling coming off methadone. I feel like I'm right back at day one. Any advice, buddy? You're just going to have to bite the bullet. Methadone [ __ ] sucks and it is going to be one of the most brutal withdrawals that probably you've ever experienced. The title of Ray's episode, I don't even know off the top of my head.
>> I'll look it up.
I'll look it up for you.
>> But it is it's got like 70,000 views.
Bruno's looking right now. Where are my questions in my Q&A here, guys? You guys are [ __ ] >> go back to the chat cuz I want to see what >> I'm 49.
>> Okay.
>> What's the title?
>> Kids of addicted parents. Yeah. Miss Independent. Have you seen the episode that we've had? We had a girl who came on who had addicted parents, too. It's kind of an interesting episode.
>> Here. I invited Nicole Labor. Let's see if she'll join.
>> Let's see.
>> See if we can get the doc on with us.
Hey, there she is.
There she is.
>> Oh, you can hear her on through your headset.
>> Yeah, I'm on YouTube and Tik Tok. We're We're just kind of getting the live going. Figured you might be a good person to bring on. Are you at work right now?
How's work?
I love that about you. I remember you saying, "I want to retire as soon as possible. [ __ ] that. I want to make as much money as I can and be done."
>> Okay, I see. Miss Independent. Yeah, >> me too. As do I. If you guys don't know who this is, she came on our show. She's our highest grossing viewed episode to date. Uh Dr. Nicole Labor, she's awesome. She I'm not going to pump her tires too hard because she doesn't need it, but she knows her [ __ ] And that is uh that is for sure.
Um, Miss Labor, do you know anything about this MGM15?
>> Is it a step up or is it just like not a lateral move?
>> Oh, you got to go to Tik Tok.
>> It's more potent.
>> We know you got to go to Tik Tok.
>> Yeah, if you want to see her, >> if you guys want to see her, she's on Tik Tok.
>> So, it's more potent.
That's what we're explaining to our YouTubers. So, when did the MGM come onto the scene and what what's it looking like? What have you seen 70? Yeah.
tastes clean. Thank you for >> Do you think this is just going to continue? They're just going to ban one and another one's going to pop up and another one's going to pop up and another one's going to pop up.
Great. It's great. I can't imagine being in high school and walking into a smoke shop and buying basically Oxycottton over the counter.
It's remarkable. It's absolutely remarkable.
>> But YouTube can't hear. I know.
>> Thanks, Guido. Good luck at work.
>> Yeah, absolutely. No, I agree. I agree 100%. Um, it's just I mean, we talked about this. The streets just aren't the streets anymore. You can't get you can't even get drugs.
don't don't know what the [ __ ] you're getting.
Yeah, I agree 100%. And I've watched some of your videos and because I mean I'm just because I've got [ __ ] almost 10 years doesn't mean [ __ ] I still got work to do and uh I I don't know. I appreciate everything you've done. and I appreciate you coming on, sharing.
Aaron loves you, by the way. He's obsessed with you.
He's actually secretly in love with you, I think.
>> Yeah, it's possible.
>> It's definitely a strong possibility.
Well, he like didn't tell us [ __ ] He was just like, "Oh, we got this sweet guest." And I was like, "I don't know."
And then you came and I was like, "Oh, she's got all these letters."
She's got [ __ ] 15 letters.
Lewis, you're my crush. That's really sweet. Itch on Skid Row for eight years. It's mega scary out there. Yeah, I bet. Dang, >> Skid Row.
Thanks, Eko. Appreciate you.
Oh, we got a secret lover crush on Aaron over here.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> We got a lot.
>> Why people were like telling you saying you were lying that they didn't exist, that they weren't the size you said they were? All it was like everything they disputed.
>> I'm going to tell him that, Angela. I'm going to tell him your secret.
I know people lost their [ __ ] Well, there was that point. There was that point and then everyone was like, "Oh, they want to get high so [ __ ] bad."
And it's like, and I mean it's like to be fair, if you drop an OC160 in my lap right now today, I'm gonna have to sit there and I'm gonna have to do a lot of thinking probably and to get myself out of that situation. But I mean those things were mythical, legendary. Nobody has [ __ ] seen them. I didn't see them. So it was interesting to hear from somebody who had I know people are silly.
All right, I'm hopping off here. You do your thing. Thanks for coming on.
You're the best. We'll uh Hey, if you ever need somebody to speak at an event anywhere, call me, text me, whatever.
>> We'll record it.
>> Yeah, we'll film we'll film it. Cool.
Um, but yeah, I mean, we've I've It's my thing. It's what I do. So, I'd love to to do that for you and return the favor.
Cool. Sounds good. Hey, did you do an event with Kyle Overmire yet? You're going to do an event with him?
You don't know.
I saw a [ __ ] like a big thing that said you were doing an event with him.
I'm not I'm not a huge fan of the guy personally, so I didn't know if you had met him before.
He was a sheriff that got addicted to opiates and started stealing out of the takeback boxes and then got caught and went to prison.
So yeah, you're doing an event with him. I've saw I saw it. I saw the post. I'm pretty sure it was on someone sent it to me because they know I'm not a big Kyle fan and they were like, "Why? Nicole's [ __ ] doing this with Kyle. What the fuck?"
Uh, he just blatantly disrespect me, blew me off, won't give me the time a day, refuses to speak to me.
Just recovery. He just thinks he's the bees. It's all it is. Just an ego thing.
Keep an eye out for it. You'll see it.
You'll see it. Just soak it in.
I'm not I'm not Listen, I can't read people [ __ ] to a tea, but I got a decent read on this guy. So, I'm curious to see what you [ __ ] experience.
Okay, I'm hopping off. Enjoy your night.
Yeah, let me know.
Thank you. Later everybody.
>> 10 [ __ ] cents.
>> 30 minutes.
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