"Getting Inspiration to Go On Practicing" Dhammatalk by Ajahn Martin (14/06/26)

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[00:07:05]Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh, so difficult. What is difficult? Huh? Who tells us it's difficult?

[00:07:17]Who is us?

[00:07:33]That was nice.

[00:07:35][laughter] I wonder when the electricity is gone.

[00:07:43][clears throat] Sometimes we just despair. Yeah.

[00:07:55]And think it's worthless. It's useless.

[00:07:58]Yeah. Oh, it's so difficult. But we never ask, you know, who tells us it's so difficult.

[00:08:07]And we never Yeah. I mean, we hardly ever think about Yeah. I mean, if we don't if we stop now Yeah. and go back into lay life. Yeah. or go back into the world, the next life we have to start all over again. And the longer we wait, the more we forget.

[00:08:27]We know we tend to forget. Yeah.

[00:08:31]So if we practice until the end of our life, uh, and if we cannot reach, you know, one of the stages of enlightenment, I mean, the next life, you know, I mean, we we just start like like it was yesterday. Yeah. But if you stop now, you know, ah it's all it's all so difficult, you know. No way, you know. There's no Yeah. Not going. Yeah.

[00:08:56]Not going anywhere.

[00:08:59]I mean the next life will be more will be as difficult or more difficult. Yeah.

[00:09:07]So I mean use it. Yeah. I mean use the opportunity. I mean all of you have the opportunity to stay here in the monastery and [snorts] practice. Yeah.

[00:09:16]And practice as much as you can. Yeah.

[00:09:20]And if you have noticed there's hardly any any time where we have to work.

[00:09:25]Yeah. I mean we have to you know we have to work. Yeah. I mean we have to take care of the salah. We have to take care of the monastery. But that is very little little amount of time. We get the meal you know every morning. Yeah.

[00:09:40]>> [clears throat] >> So we get everything that we need. Yeah.

[00:09:44]So we have the most amount of time you know for our practice. Yeah. To see you know to to fight the klesas who who tell us it's me it's mine it's myself.

[00:10:00]But just like I said, just like I sit in tight, I mean who knows who knows that there is a feeling.

[00:10:09]Yeah.

[00:10:11]We we even say this is this kind of feeling this is that kind of feeling.

[00:10:17]But have you ever asked the feeling if it knows are you feeling? Are you know you're this kind of feeling or that kind of feeling? No. It is a knowing. It is a chitta. Yeah. that you know labels it this is a good feeling this is a bad feeling this I want this I don't want this is yeah this is the chitta that labels the things that it sees yeah but because the things are so close to us we think it's me or mine or myself yeah that's what the kissas like to to think of us yeah so when you think you are I oh I'm so depressed yeah there's nothing you can Oh, but if you say okay there is depression, there's one who knows we we you know we separate that out then we can look at depression and the moment we look yeah at depression or other things it becomes very clear very obvious it comes and then it goes and then we see what feeds in. Yeah. And then we can you know stop what feeds in. It's our thoughts. It's our memories. Oh yeah, yesterday I was like this, you know. Ah yeah. Oh, you know this is so terrible. You know this these are the things that feed the fire of the depression or feed the fire of anything.

[00:11:41]So if we stop putting wood into the fire, the fire has to go out.

[00:11:47]But we have we can only see that if we distance ourselves from what we experience. Yeah. The experience is the experience and the one who knows the experience is the one who knows. So we have to separate out the one who knows and the experience itself.

[00:12:08]So the one who knows that there's a thought coming, he sees the thought coming and he sees thoughts going. He sees the memory coming and he sees the memory going away.

[00:12:20]It has nothing to do. We didn't bring up the memory. We can, you know, if we want to, we can bring up the memories. But most of the memories we we don't bring up. Yeah. I would say 99% of the memories or thoughts we don't bring up.

[00:12:34]They just come by themselves.

[00:12:38]Amazing. Just like the clouds in the sky, they come by themselves. We don't ask them to come.

[00:12:45]They come and then they go. They come and go. Feelings come and go. Thoughts come and go. They all on each other.

[00:12:55]And the body. Yeah. I mean it takes a bit longer. Yeah. The body also comes and goes.

[00:13:01]Yeah. But who is the owner of the body?

[00:13:07]The chitta.

[00:13:08]The chitta. Yeah. That's the owner of the body. Yeah. And it uses the body just like you know the driver. You know just like we used to drive a car. A car.

[00:13:22]Yeah, we go in and then we drive it because we love it. Makes us comfortable. Just like a house, you know, makes us things comfortable. But we know we are not the car.

[00:13:34]We get in the car, we drive the car, and then we get out of the car. We know we are not the car. Just the same with the house. We are not the house. Yeah. So, we are not the body. Yeah. We get into the body, you know, when it is born, we get into the body or a little bit before birth. Yeah. And then you know when it dies you now ah sorry cannot use it anymore just like a car we put it to the scrapyard. Yeah. What do we do with the body? We either we either burn it. Yeah.

[00:14:04]Or when we are Christians you know we put it down in the earth and then we look for the next body and there's no end to it until we stop it.

[00:14:17]And that is the important thing. That is why we practice. We want to stop it.

[00:14:21]Yeah, we stop this constant birth and death and birth and death. Yeah. But we only can stop it when we when we when we put back. Yeah. Or when we investigate our attachment. Yeah. Our attachment to these five condas. And the five condas are the body, you know, our feelings.

[00:14:43]Yeah. Memories, [clears throat] association, thoughts. Yeah. Short form of thoughts, you know, and consciousness. We attached to this. We want to see. We want to hear. We want to feel. Yeah.

[00:14:57]Just like the driver of a car wants to drive. And the faster he can drive, the more, you know, the the more fun he has.

[00:15:04]Yeah. And that's the same thing with the body. We can do a lot of things. Yeah.

[00:15:09]Look at the world, you know, what we are all created, you know. It's so fun, you know. The artist [clears throat] creates art, you know, and the engineers create, you know, engineering stuff. Yeah. And so on. The architect create houses and so on.

[00:15:26]I mean, you look at it. Wow. You say, Yeah.

[00:15:30]But then you look at it, you know, for a long time, you know, and the car, you know, I mean, the car that we built or many people built. Yeah. I mean, goes to the scrapyard. the house you know that we build you know I mean gets demolished all these things you know I mean don't have don't last forever and we are attached to these things you know because we want them to last forever just like we want some of the feelings to last forever they don't last they have their nature and that's why you know we cannot we cannot change when we have a bad feeling we cannot change it in a good feeling So, how can you say it's your feeling?

[00:16:16]Huh?

[00:16:18]Interesting question, huh?

[00:16:27]If I Yeah. If I don't like my body, Yeah. I cannot change it. You know, only when I die, I can change it. Yeah. I cannot just get out of the body and know and get into I like this body and now get into another body. Yeah.

[00:16:45]It's just that you know it's a vehicle the body. Yeah. [cough] I [clears throat] call it I mean it's a it's a biological robot just like the robots we build in the world. Yeah. I mean you see you know once in a while you see the robots you know I mean they're getting cleverer and cleverer and clever. Yeah. I mean I remember you know 40 years ago I mean we we I used to train or program robots very simple robots. Yeah. And now they get you know with all this AI they get so Yeah. Yeah.

[00:17:20]And in in 10 20 years you know I mean they do amazing things just like our body. Yeah.

[00:17:28]But it's not us. It's not me. We created this. Yeah. So we have to separate it out. We have to see feeling is feeling, body is body, thoughts are thoughts, memories are memories. They don't belong to us.

[00:17:45]And we have to understand one thing you know the first thing you know we we we have to do you know is really get the mind calm to see this knowingness to feed you know I mean to develop this knowingness that knows you know okay the Buddha starts the Buddha ends you know the Buddha is fast the Buddha is slow the Buddha is detailed or you know it is [clears throat] it is rough yeah it's not detailed just like with the breath the Same thing we have to know all the time when we do the meditation that is so important to develop the sati to develop this knowingness or develop this awareness.

[00:18:25]Yeah. That is the thing. Yeah. If we are not aware yeah of what is going on in our heart. I mean we will never be able to cut it off.

[00:18:38]So I mean remember that when you when you do when you do your sitting meditation or walking meditation know yeah how how is the object that I'm observing at every moment at every second every millisecond how is it now how is it now is it deep is it shallow you know is it is fast is it slow yeah is the in breath longer than the outpress or outpress longer than the in breath yeah or is it short and is rough It doesn't matter how it is.

[00:19:10]We always try to manipulate it. No, whatever we observe, we try to manipulate and that's where where it all goes wrong. No, we just want to know how it is. Yeah. And through our observation, Yeah. and through the calmness of the chitta that it doesn't go out in thoughts and memories. I mean, the breath becomes very very slow. Yeah.

[00:19:32]And very detailed. Yeah. [clears throat] Just like the Buddha. Yeah. But if we try to make it, yes, we can make it, you know, going slowly. But, you know, then then we burst out, you know. I mean, this is not the real thing. Yeah. The observing of the object. Yeah.

[00:19:51]Be the Buddha, be the breath for the summertime meditation, that is the thing that is important. Yeah. Just like you know when when we do investigation of the body to observe. Yeah. So I mean when when we when we put out all the parts of the body in front of us to observe them. Yeah. And then for investigation we ask question but we don't expect the questions to come from the killes or from our thinking. We want to we want to have the answers coming from the heart.

[00:20:24]And the the the answers that come from the heart is in form of knowingness.

[00:20:30]Yeah. And the form of knowingness is very subtle. But we know things we know.

[00:20:36]Yeah. And things that we know, nobody can take us away.

[00:20:43]The things that we assume everybody can dispute it. Yeah. So if you say I have this experience, yeah. And you you really had this experience. Nobody can take this away. But when you assume, oh, I had this experience or that experience, everybody can take it. Ah, now that that doesn't sound good, that doesn't sound good. That that certainly wasn't the case. So this can be taken away. Whatever comes in in form of thoughts or memories is not the real thing. The real thing is come in in forms of of knowingness.

[00:21:20]Yeah. So you have to remember that.

[00:21:22]Yeah.

[00:21:23]And sometimes you when the when the when the practice is difficult just rem remind yourself. Yeah. I mean do I want to get out of the cycle? Do do I want to be born again and again and again or do I want to stop it? Yeah. And if the answer is I want to stop it. Yeah. So so what what prevents you? Yeah.

[00:21:48]Oh it's so difficult. What is so difficult in having one breath?

[00:21:55]That's not difficult. Just one. We don't think about 10 hours or one hour or half an hour. Just one breath or one Buddha.

[00:22:06]That cannot be difficult.

[00:22:10]And who tells us it's difficult? The kalisa. Yeah.

[00:22:14]We need sometimes we need some something you know that encourage us to practice.

[00:22:20]Yeah. And and whatever find something you know that encourage you to practice.

[00:22:25]Yeah. I mean if it is you know think about your life you know. Do I want to go through this kind of life again and again and again? Was it so much fun?

[00:22:36]I I'm sure it wasn't. Yeah. It was very tough. Yeah. So why why should the next life be better?

[00:22:51]Unless unless we we created, you know, we create the kind of kama that makes it a little bit better. Yeah.

[00:23:00]But we have also the opportunity to get out of the samsara. Yeah. At least, you know, to open the first door.

[00:23:08]But that that that might not be you know that might not be easy [clears throat] but we can at least you know when we practice till the end of our life we can come close to the gate. We we might not reach it. Yeah. We might reach it or we might not reach it. Yeah. But then you know in the next life we can just you know we just can follow up. Huh? But if you stop now and said, "Ah, it's all worthless, you know." Then the next life we forgot everything that we did right now. Yeah. And we have to relearn it again.

[00:23:43]Huh?

[00:23:46]So we go, you know, just like just like learning a language, you know, you haven't practiced it for 10, 15 years. I mean, you have to pretty much relearn it. Yeah. It becomes easier. Yeah. But, you know, you still have to relearn it.

[00:24:00]And it's the same with meditation practice. We still have to relearn it.

[00:24:04]Yeah.

[00:24:06]Even though I practiced many many lifetimes before. Yeah. I mean in this lifetime it took me two and a half years I until I got back. Yeah. And without effort you know without effort and determination I wouldn't have gotten back. Yeah. But I always had you know I always had this question. You want do you want to stop now? Then then everything is lost. Yeah. Huh.

[00:24:30]>> [clears throat] >> Or yeah, do you want to be born again?

[00:24:33]Yeah. If you don't want to be born again, you better practice now. You continue your practice. Yeah. So, we have to have something. Yeah. I don't know what works for you, but you have to find something that works for you. Yeah.

[00:24:45]To give you incentive, huh, to practice to go on. Yeah. Because sometimes, you know, sometimes [clears throat] what we discover what we discover in our heart Yeah. is all the things that we have pushed down. Yeah. Things that we didn't want to know, things that we didn't want to deal with and so on and so on. It just just like in our house, we have an attic or a cellar and all the things we don't want, we just put it in.

[00:25:15]Yeah.

[00:25:17]And now through our practice, we open the door, boom, and all everything, you know, jumps out again. Yeah.

[00:25:24]It's not because we practice. It's because we look at the right thing.

[00:25:28]Yeah. We want to clean up the cellar.

[00:25:31]Yeah. Or we want to clean up the the attic. And the attic or the cellar is our heart. Yeah. And there's so much things in our heart, you know, that we have to remove. Yeah. First the cost things, then the fine thing, then the dust, and then that, you know, then the little spots, you know, that you know that are on the window, you know, so the light cannot shine in. Yeah.

[00:25:55]So each time each time in our practice we go a little bit deeper little bit deeper and the things come up. So we look at them deal with them and then they're gone. Yeah. It's just like we go into attic we take out you know some some of the stuff. Yeah. And then it's gone. The next thing out gone next thing out until it becomes you know becomes more and more clearer. Yeah. It's the same with practice. Yeah. Don't think you know because you practice these things appear. Yeah, they have been in the heart all the time and yeah, not only that they have been in the heart all the time but they also determine our reactions. Yeah, it determines our thoughts. It determines our our memories. Yeah.

[00:26:39]But we don't know because it is hidden from us. Yeah. And meditation, you know, makes it obvious. Yeah. Ah, okay.

[00:26:49]And once the things are gone, you know, these kind of memories, these kind of thoughts never come up again.

[00:26:56]That's a path of practice. Yeah.

[00:27:00]Okay. Understood?

[00:27:07]What else?

[00:27:10]This is the grand grand opportunity.

[00:27:13]It's the best opportunity for us to go at least, you know, as as far as possible. Yeah. [clears throat] So, uh, questions.

[00:27:27]>> It's not a question. It's more about a request I have. Have you ever heard about the loneliness epidemic?

[00:27:35]>> What?

[00:27:36]>> Loneliness epidemic?

[00:27:38]>> Yeah, of course.

[00:27:40]>> Yeah. I don't I haven't heard about it but I know what loneliness is and of course you know I mean I would think so because of all this technology that people become more and more and more lonely >> that's unbelievable that is exactly this is the most connected era in human history nevertheless we have the >> we don't we don't know yeah >> that that is a paradox and that's a >> I mean it is yeah I mean it's not that you know it is yeah I mean there have been there have been civilizations before us they probably also had some sort of loneliness loneliness you know I mean we can fight very easy we go inside the heart and then we are connected to everything >> except and and actually I am building a solution for it a technology >> yeah yeah yeah that is in the mind we don't we don't build solutions we don't build >> mind it is also because technology allow me allow Tell me just one minute.

[00:28:40]Technology can be used also with the purpose of connect people that that was but real connected real help people to connect real people say okay you're going to be this >> type of a person and you like this other type of person.

[00:28:57]>> Yeah. But that is that is the idea that was born in the 80s and was called Facebook.

[00:29:02]>> Yeah. Yeah. But do you think if technology is used that that's what you as an engineer >> as a person who knows about technology do you think if we use it in the right way if we put really in the right they can be a tool to help people >> no >> to to at least social type of loneliness this you know to find the ideal partner >> because you can add anything in in a in a through the phone you can find it. So I >> this is this is so superficial.

[00:29:40]>> Superficial.

[00:29:41]>> Yeah. Because the loneliness starts in the heart of course >> and that's where we have to remedy it in the heart.

[00:29:49]>> Exactly. That's what we have twofold.

[00:29:51]First is the inner gate >> and then after you >> and then you don't need the outer gate.

[00:29:58][laughter] >> I mean if you open the inner gate. Yeah.

[00:30:02]That's totally true. You might don't need it. But >> no, I'm 100% sure you don't need it.

[00:30:09]>> You see, that's my >> because that is my experience.

[00:30:13]>> Exactly.

[00:30:14]>> Because you're connected already.

[00:30:16]>> Exactly.

[00:30:17]>> You're not lonely.

[00:30:18]>> Yes. That's totally true. Like in my case, I'm >> And you don't even need people. You can con Yeah. You can communicate with people. You can be around people but you don't need them because you don't feel lonely. Yeah.

[00:30:33]>> Exactly. You see that's that's powerful.

[00:30:35]That's what I want to hear.

[00:30:36]>> Yes. Okay. Finished.

[00:30:38]>> Finish. [laughter] >> Thank you. Thank you for the answer. But >> yeah, get the questions.

[00:30:46]>> Yeah. Go ahead.

[00:30:51]>> Yeah. Yeah. People Yeah. This is not the way. Yeah. There is I think that we could share it.

[00:30:59]>> We always look for an easy way out but actually this this easy way out makes things much more difficult >> and that's the result. That's actually true. That is what is happening. That is exactly that.

[00:31:12]>> Look at the phones. It makes people more lonely than ever because they think they connect. They see their face but they cannot actually connect to that person.

[00:31:24]They can talk to the person but they don't they don't connect in the way that we do connect.

[00:31:31]>> That's very interesting. You see tell that to the new generation. That's so typical.

[00:31:37]>> Yeah. I I don't want to tell anything to anybody unless they come here then I tell them.

[00:31:46]>> I might be able to tell. Thank you.

[00:31:49]When I contemplate on a nature, I started with outer things, proceeded to inner feelings, emotions and thoughts.

[00:31:57]And after long contemplation on the nature of each of them, I could realize that they are impermanent.

[00:32:05]And then I could rest in the state where all of these ceased. The question is how to proceed.

[00:32:14]>> [clears throat] >> You can see them as impermanent but you still you know I mean if you rest Yeah.

[00:32:20]then you should rest with the Buddha or with the breath to get into deeper samati. Yeah.

[00:32:27][clears throat] The question is you know I mean if he sees things as impermanent Yeah. And if he's drawn into it or Yeah. or he either likes it or dislikes it then he should question then he should investigate.

[00:32:42]Yeah.

[00:32:44]the things that are impermanent. Why am I still attached to it? Why am I still attached to this body? Why I'm attached to this feeling? Why I'm attached to this thought? Why I'm attached to this memory?

[00:32:57]Because without attachment, these thoughts don't come up. These feelings don't come up.

[00:33:08]When I am in a difficult situation, I can often see that wanting it to be different is what creates suffering.

[00:33:16]>> I can observe the situation, stop judging it, and allow it to be as it is.

[00:33:20]However, even when I do this, there's still a feeling deep down that I would rather the situation were different.

[00:33:26][clears throat] The suffering may be less, but the preference remains. Yeah.

[00:33:30]>> From a Buddhist perspective, how should I understand this? Is it still attachment and craving or is it simply a natural preference?

[00:33:38]>> No, no, no. It's it's still attachment and craving. Yeah. We don't want the situation. So, we cannot accept the situation. Then he has to understand, you know, why what kind of view brings brings him, you know, to to to not liking the situation. Yeah. Because it's always a view, it's a thought, it's a memory that he doesn't like the situation.

[00:34:02]And [clears throat] then he has to eradicate this view from his mind you know and then the situation is just a situation. I mean any kind of situation I mean there's there's nothing when whenever I look at a situation there's a situation but there's neither liking nor disliking.

[00:34:23]So that is that is the Buddhist way. So as long as and and he noticed it. Yeah.

[00:34:29]He he did notice you know that deep down there is still this you know wanting to change the situation that doesn't that means he does does not fully accept the situation and that is what we learn you know when we do investigation of painful feelings. We have to learn to completely accept the painful feeling before we can start to investigate the painful feeling. Because if we investigate painful feeling with a hope that the painful feelings go away then the investigation will not take fruit and so is it with him. Yeah. If he does not completely accept the situation I mean it won't go away. Yeah.

[00:35:13]So what he's asking is the difference between attachment and craving and a natural preference.

[00:35:25]>> I mean natural preference are characteristic tendencies. Yeah. They are long for habits of craving and attachment.

[00:35:35]>> So they basically the same.

[00:35:37]>> Yeah. It's Yeah. It's all Yeah. I mean if you have a new attachment you know it is easy to get rid of it. If you have an attachment that is has been formed over o over hundreds of lifetimes you know I mean it's difficult to get rid of it.

[00:35:52]Yeah. But it's still craving and still attachment. It's a memory for these it's a memory for these feelings or for these things you know that that we crave for.

[00:36:03]Yeah. And this this is born from our memories. Yeah. Or from our past experience. So I think he's kind of suggesting that he thinks some preference is is normal.

[00:36:15]>> No, there's no normal preference. Yeah.

[00:36:18]It's all created, you know. I mean, even the arand has preferences, but they were created. Yeah. But it doesn't gray for it.

[00:36:27]So for the arand, you can talk about natural Yeah. natural preferences because for him it doesn't matter, you know, if he has it or if he doesn't have it.

[00:36:39]Yeah. Doesn't matter to him.

[00:36:42]But you know, if he has a choice, he naturally prefers whatever he has preferred over the last 100 lifetimes.

[00:36:49]Yeah.

[00:36:50][clears throat] Unless he has investigated that is not good for him. Yeah.

[00:36:58]>> Okay.

[00:37:00]>> The last [snorts] >> I smoke daily and sometimes watch porn.

[00:37:05]I meditate daily.

[00:37:06]>> Yeah. Um I it says I am breaking precepts. So I don't know if it means am I breaking precepts?

[00:37:14]>> No.

[00:37:15]>> And then how to let go of these attachments.

[00:37:17]>> Oh that's difficult. You know he has to investigate the body for Yeah.

[00:37:22][clears throat] >> And and the other one what was it?

[00:37:26]>> Smoking. I mean the Lord Buddha never said anything against smoking. Yeah. I mean uh if you watch his pawn Yeah. I mean the the best thing is I mean there's there's a there's this website where you can see all these super images >> what is it called >> there are it's some have been shut down and >> oh some of it yeah so I mean watch porn and then watch this website you know I mean to get you know get [clears throat] get a remedy yeah to see you know I mean to see you know a a body you know that was torn apart, you know, by a by a car or by a train. Yeah.

[00:38:11]And then compare it to what you see, you know, in porn, you know, I mean, it will remedy a little bit. Yeah.

[00:38:19]That what what what L advice, you know, if you watch something beautiful, you know, always have something next to it that is ugly and disgusting to see. Yeah. Yeah. to see also your preferences to see what is it you know what is your attachment it's the same thing yeah one things we like and the other things we dislike okay so good fighting yeah and remember yeah [clears throat] the next life you know the next life comes you know unless you know unless It cut it off.

[00:39:07]>> Going back to the technology.

[00:39:11]>> I mean I know what technology does. I'm an engineer. So I mean I used to be an engineer. Yeah. I even used to work in AI. Yeah. So this does not solve any problem. Yeah.

[00:39:26]And when you look you know when you look at you know especially for engineers you know I mean they become if they are completely obsessed they become nerds they cannot communicate with anybody.

[00:39:37]Yeah the phones and all their computers and they can't the reality is >> I mean yes I mean you can say the same thing about a car.

[00:39:49]>> Yeah.

[00:39:50]>> You can say the same thing about an airplane.

[00:39:52]Or you can use it to transport food or transport.

[00:39:58]>> Yes. For the world. Perfect. For us, it's poison.

[00:40:04]>> For the world, you see.

[00:40:06]>> For the world. Yeah. For the world outside, you know. I mean, they can play with it, you know. I mean, yeah. They look for comfort. Yeah. I mean, that is what human beings for the last 7,000 years, you know. Look for comfort. make it a little bit more comfortable. You know, in [clears throat] the beginning they were lay laying on, you know, on stones, you know, on on on mats of straw and now they have all these, you know, mattresses, you know, I mean, whatever they try to make it more and more comfortable, but the more and more comfortable is the kila.

[00:40:40]So they feed the killers. They become stronger and stronger and stronger and [cough] until they can't, you know, >> but but the technology could be used to to raise awareness.

[00:40:53]>> No to to be able >> No, not at all. I mean it diminish awareness. The technology >> if you use it correctly, there are some AI that can help you to learn more about this, more about Buddhism, learn more about yourself. I mean where the Lord Buddha did not need AI to learn about you know the worlds.

[00:41:16]He just looked into his heart. I mean that is our task. We look into our heart into the knowingness and we know future and we know past.

[00:41:27]So what do we need AI for?

[00:41:31]>> That's a point. Yeah. You have a point.

[00:41:33]You have a totally >> that that is a problem. I always have a point. [laughter] No, but that's too >> because I've gone this path, you know.

[00:41:46]I've seen and I've seen the danger of it. Yeah. And I still see the danger of it because sometimes, you know, you go to a school and teach a kid. They don't have an they have an attention span of two or three seconds >> because of this technology.

[00:42:05]>> Golden fish. That's as average as five and a half seconds. Yeah, that's the human beings.

[00:42:10]>> And that is a pity when you look at when you were young, you know, I mean, your attention span was much longer because you didn't had this technology that distract us.

[00:42:23]We went out in the woods, you know, and we we invented our own games, you know, we used our own computer, our own technology. Yeah.

[00:42:35]And we were interested in what we were doing. Yeah. But nowadays, you know, people just scroll through. Scroll through. Scroll through. Yeah.

[00:42:44]>> Like Yeah. Like nothing. Like not even paying attention to anything.

[00:42:49]>> That is >> okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

[00:42:53]>> You can just go. [laughter] But what can you do with the little kids when you think that they are born with technology? How come being a good parent? I mean take take away you know allow them for 1 hour a day you know >> yes >> just like you know just like the parents in the 50s and 60s allow allowed the kids you know just to watch TV for for 40 minutes or an hour >> that's just >> it's distraction and the kasas are the master of distraction so we feed them and they will love it. I mean they love any kind of things you know that distracts people. Yeah.

[00:43:37]Because if we distract it we don't know the truth.

[00:43:43]>> Okay.

[00:43:45]Finished.

[00:43:50]>> Yes. me.

[00:44:14]Oh my god.

[00:44:27]Oh, heat.