Content theft in modding communities involves creators copying or adapting others' work without permission or credit, which undermines the trust and collaborative spirit that enables community growth and sustainability. When creators invest hundreds of hours developing content, they deserve recognition and fair compensation, and the community must actively call out such theft to maintain ethical standards and protect the ecosystem that allows modders to share their work freely.
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Someone is stealing content and it is time for a rant!Added:
I don't like to hang in the negative, right?
Um, but you've all seen, at least if you're on YouTube, uh, you've seen the title of the stream. Uh, on Twitch, it's a bit more ambiguous. Hey, Thiago, thank you for joining. Um, on Twitch, it's a bit more ambiguous, but today, uh, Miguel FM adboards, it it kind of transpired that, um, they have been stealing loosely adapting plugins from Declan and from Setham. So if you don't know, Setham is a person who had a breakthrough with the scoreboards.
So what he actually did was create a plugin for Bean X where he could uh inject scoreboards and he is the person who kind of you know got that going.
So, we discovered that a lot of the fonts that were in Miguel's uh what's it called? Miguel's Patreon packs actually just were a onetoone copy of of Sethum's fonts and some graphics even with the same bugs and with the same errors that Seth pointed out himself, which is obviously not chill, especially not given Setham does it. He has a he has a free version of it and Miguel only has paid versions of it.
I mean when when system contacted me I was kind of angry already but obviously you you don't have that much evidence. So at that point it was a very heavy uh suspicion maybe. Hey, Leo.
Quickly, we kind of started speculating that perhaps a Declan's crowd chance mod could also be subject to the same kind of thing.
So, I reached out to Declan as did Setham and we just straight up asked, "Yo, do you guys do you know anything?" Um, so he started investigating and he found out that the bases of of Miguel's uh chant and and like crowd audio plugins, they all had the same base, which was Declan's crowd mod, right?
He's crowd chants.
So, it's two cases. And in this case, it's two cases of blatant theft. No credit was given.
No permission was asked to to use any of this.
None of it at that point.
That's when I posted my tweet, my post, my ex, whatever the [ __ ] it's called. I just don't sit well with that kind of stuff.
And it's it's more than just, oh, both Zam and Declan are having their income be. No, it's way [ __ ] deeper than that. It's about the fundamental trust.
We'll get into the remorse soon, Tiny, because that also is a a really big thing. Now, I want to say one thing first. This is not a letter to go and attack or harass or do anything else to me. Well, you are free to make your own choice. Good evening, Andy. You are free to make your own choices, your own decisions. I assume most of you are adults and I assume most of you are capable of thinking for yourself. I'm not going to tell you what what to do.
That is up to you.
Fully up to you. But this is where my where my border is my boundary is overstepped significantly.
I don't like this.
I get angry again when I when I put the story out there again. I get angry because I know for a fact that Setham has put tens he's he he maybe even maybe he even surpassed 200 hours. He put so much [ __ ] time into that [ __ ] as did Declan.
And I'm not saying Miguel didn't add new stuff because he did. But his foundation is based on something that isn't his.
And that's the bit that gets me so upset. If he would have just gone in and asked those guys straight away, is it okay if I use these plugins? Is it okay if I They are reasonable people, right? So, he gets called out and there is zero remorse. In fact, he kind of doubles down.
He doubles down.
He goes, "Yeah, well, come on, dude. You're being called out.
You could have apologized."
Instead, he goes, "Yeah, but I built so much more on top of it." Yeah, we know.
But that's not the [ __ ] point.
The point is you've won taken stuff.
You've taken away income from those from those people that would have gone to their Patreon instead. You've given 0.0 credit. This is a foundation of trust. I cannot go into this community anymore and and and collaborate and share stuff because ultimately it it affects my bottom line as well.
It is it's something that's so fragile you it's hard to explain it if if you're not in this scene. And to some people it's gonna sound like I'm playing the the the world's smallest [ __ ] violin, which fair enough if you think that that's okay.
Feel free to do so. But this is a foundational basis of trust and the the the fact that there is no remorse tops it off. I am super happy and and grateful for all the for the hundreds of kind messages that I see every week. I am because you guys are keeping me going at this moment.
I have no I have no respect or sympathy for this.
In fact, I've not felt this disheartened in in years.
And trust is on a knife knife edge as it is. That's true.
No, no, no. Leo, it's not asking for a refund. It is the fact that Miguel FM Adwords is has blatantly stolen stuff.
I'm seriously considering going Patreon only after 2 after 3.0.
I'm seriously considering that. Not because I want to enrich myself, but because when I go on Twitter and I see three or four posts a day of people begging and twerking for a free version where I go, I really came into this scene with the idea I'm going to be this guy and I I really hope that I can make the difference and show show that it it can be done that it that that you can come in here you can put out a free pack from which you you you can sustain yourself on the side but that it would not be necessary to pay wallet.
I think it is uh Diego because I have no dropped frames.
Thank you Osgun and I know so many people here are supporting me.
Now, I know I know you're kidding, Dylan, because the fact is, right, that's why I share my stuff with you is you've shown the ability to get that into the game in the first place, which means you've put significant hours into it. This is not something you do in four to five hours.
You've probably spent two to three days working on that, frustrating yourself, trying to get [ __ ] working.
You've put effort into it.
It is the fact that that that hundreds of hours are being dismissed.
Thank you, King. Thank you, King Snake.
It It's that fundamental bit. And I'm going to sound very mooney. I know. And this is the whole point of the [ __ ] stream is to be a mooney [ __ ] Okay? If you don't like that, dislike the [ __ ] stream and go do something else because that's probably better that's a better time investment than this. But I am tired of seeing people begging and twerking for a free version.
I I don't like to ventilate. I don't like negativity.
I don't like doing this, but I feel it's necessary.
I feel like it's been happening for for a bit too long. I feel like people are insulting creators like Tiny, insulting myself, insulting people like Satam.
Insulting people like Declan for putting it on Patreon. Yeah. And calling us [ __ ] [ __ ] pocket fillers.
Calling us greedy. When when all when in the end hundreds and hundreds of hours go into this, would you go and work for your boss and and go without a pay?
Thanks, David. It's it's more than the stadiums.
It's the it's the time to research.
I am going to create volutric clouds.
I'm in the process of doing that now.
And that basically means that clouds will form. Clouds will get thicker. Uh rain, snow, you know, you'll have cloud fronts forming. This is costing me [ __ ] I'm I'm 80 hours into that plugin already. That is two full working weeks.
Thank you, Darius. And and I look, you guys make my day. You guys are the reason why I keep going because if it wasn't for you guys, if it wasn't for my Patreon supporters, I would have I would have quit after 3 weeks. Yeah, there is there is drama. Richard, it's basically theft. Miguel has been stealing stuff from both Setham and from Declan and God knows who whoever else. I've not got that far into the into the research yet.
It's it's the it's the research time. My PC is on 16 hours a day because I am working. I'm researching. I'm communicating. And God forbid you don't react within three and a half hours because Whoa. Then we're going to call you a greedy bastard.
Yeah, Kevin. So that I'm trying to use my platform now to bring awareness to these kinds of problems. I know society 2026 and I wish it wasn't.
I wish it wasn't.
25. That's that's that's little because 40% of my of the of the day is my is for me having to explain for the 1200 time that doesn't work on MacBooks and I do that with a lot of like I don't it doesn't drain that much energy because I see all the all of the comments and I see all of the people who are sharing their screenshots and are sharing their joy with the game. that makes up more than it.
But this is not okay. This is a boundary that's clearly been overstepped and it's got me really angry.
And I'm not going to tell everyone what to do. You're you're adults. You're free to make your own choice.
It it just this this isn't okay. It is a superiority of people. Uh Luffy Deluxe uh blatant case of content theft uh which is then put behind a payw wall.
If I go to the store and I and I and I buy food. Yeah. No, don't even I I go there, I take food with me and I come back the day after with a big [ __ ] [ __ ] in my hand. That's not okay.
Because yeah, sure, the store is getting their food back, but it's in a form of [ __ ] It's not in food.
You can iterate on it. You can build on it, but in the end of the day, if you're not getting if you're not giving credit for something that is clearly stolen, it's not even for me. Luffy Deluxe. It is it is for it is for other people.
But as the biggest voice in this scene at the moment, I need to take responsibility and act on this.
I know Kevin, I know. And that's why this frustrates me. But I am also a person for myself and I am able to ventilate my frustration as well.
This is my frustration. You don't need to watch. Please, if you're spend your time better, go somewhere else. Go watch another person. Go go go go go do something else. Go do something with your family or your kids. It is a better time investment than this stream.
I'm going to be the first person to say that. But I also need to ventilate and I also need to get some stuff off my chest.
But for every [ __ ] comment that goes in there saying this is too dark, this is too [ __ ] this is not this is not okay, well then get off your [ __ ] ass and do it yourself because honestly I am I am done with that.
I have no formal qualifications. I'm a hobbyist who just so happens to have a large audience now. But let me use my [ __ ] audience to make a difference.
I reply to almost everybody with respect, with dignity, even if those comments are really disrespectful.
But at a certain point, my bucket is full.
And that point is now.
And again, I don't want to re want to payw wall my my my mega pack because I don't think it should. But if that means that I can get rid of of 70% of all of the nastiness, I'll do it in a heartbeat. Even though it goes so far against my principles.
I don't know what to do with this.
I really hope that this community, yeah, is strong enough to keep pointing these things out and bringing it to our attention because it is crucial.
FM26 is in a position in a position where the mods that we created were necessary.
And that is not to to to shag myself.
That is not to put a dick in my own ass.
It is a fact. Without us, the mod creators, this game would be in a far worse condition than it is. I am aware enough that.
Yet, we keep doing it for free.
That is the fact of the situation. And I like Football Manager. I love Football Manager.
I don't want this. I want me to go and be able to collaborate with Hey Dean, nice that you're showing up because I want myself to go and collaborate with you. I want to share my code with you. I want to stay up till 3:00 a.m. to [ __ ] help you on a voice call.
Uh Diego, you you're you're free to to think and feel that way, man. I don't think of you guys less because I otherwise why would I respond to you guys on Twitter?
It's it that that comment doesn't really make sense to me.
stuff like this. It It's It's It's everywhere.
Yeah, AJ, I don't want to I don't want to make that generalization because I don't think that's fair.
Um, no, no, uh, B3, because I don't I don't ignore Mac requests. The simple fact is there is a hardware issue with MacBooks and with Pepin X. So look, if I could get this get this [ __ ] pack out on Mac, I would have done so 6 months ago. I can I cannot. The only way is through crossover, which simil which is like a a Windows emulator in a way. But it is fundamentally I cannot make I cannot change this. I cannot get it to work on MacBook.
I know, Diego, and I know that bit really well because I am reminded of it constantly when I post a Brazilian or an Argentinian stadium. I am aware of the of the world situations. I am aware that people in Indonesia aren't able to afford the the €10 or the €1250 that you have to pay. I know that I am so painfully aware of it, which is why I'm making it free because I want people from all over the [ __ ] world to enjoy it because I was in a position a few years ago where I could not afford this.
and I came home and I wanted to play football manager and I wanted to enjoy the game. That is why my my mods are free. That's why I always maintain that position and that stance.
I hope I hope uh B3 that that it will someday be available on Mac 2 because yeah I it it's it's that way.
Oh no, Lolero that there is a Patreon and and people are free to join that one. People are free to join that one.
And the reason why why my my last few versions have not been shared publicly is because I want to get focused feedback. I want to focus on specific things and then get 3.0 out in the world for free for people to enjoy.
It is totally up to you if you want to support me. Whether that is through through a donation, whether it's through Patreon, whether it's through super chat, channel memberships, all of them.
It is up to you.
But I cannot in good faith sit here and say I am happy with what is happening right now.
Uh, Darius, I actually think I have an answer, but I'm not allowed to share it because of an NDA.
I I I it is Luffy. It is so easy to say that. And the fact is I really try to, which is why I think I've been able to keep keep myself sane for so long.
Um, but even if you're looking for the constructive criticism, you see all of the the negativity as well and and like the the useless the the what is the word? What is the word to to explain that you see the negativity even if you're trying not to.
Thank you, Helmsley. That is that is a nice comment to get. Thank you so much.
No, it it's uh uh Rogerio. I mean, people are free to to criticize and to comment, right? They are free to provide. I love feedback because if it wasn't for Jean, and we often we often clown him, but if it wasn't for Jean, the pitches would still look like they were from 2002. So, like feedback is is necessary.
And I've always said that be respectful.
just just you know I I'm not an unreasonable person. You can make me one. Hey Dark Side, welcome.
Um what happened to Baka is one I need to ventilate and two Miguel FMboards he has stolen a significant portion of both Declan and Seth to this day known work without providing any feedback or asking for permission. So, I just wanted to get out here and discuss this sort of stuff because it's been brewing with me for a little while and I needed to just ventilate. There are millions of ways of of better time spending. Go and spend time with your family or with your with your kids or with another game or just Yeah, I just needed to ventilate. Um, if it wasn't for you modders, I'd be nowhere in this game. Mr. Tiny Skone has allowed me to enjoy the game. Yeah.
At least as I love.
Yeah, that's true.
I don't know, Chebacca. You tell me.
Look, someone someone asked me uh it was actually the 31st of January of of of December, the last evening of 2025.
They basically told uh said, "Well, I don't you can give credit all you want, but if you have never asked permission."
So, I showed up with receipts, right?
Because to me, it's so important to give credit and to ask for permission. So, I went to the Virtual Red Stadium Mega Pack because everyone who is associated with that pack, all of the stadium creators are linked on that page. So, I reached out to them. Yo, I want to use your guys' pack because it has a load of them that I can convert. Is that okay?
And in which way in which direction do you want me to give you guys the credit?
It's important.
I got a reply saying that was totally fine. Thank you, Squis.
Uh that was totally okay. I even went back and said like, "Oh, this is how I want to credit you guys. Is that okay?
All good."
Then when I had to go for specific models from PEZ or updated models, I became a patron member myself because I think if you're creating stadiums and I am adapting them, it's my responsibility to also contribute. So I went in there, I subbed to all of the all of the patrons that I could find. Asked first if it's okay.
Most of them are given credit is provided, which you know is normal.
Yeah.
Yeah. Declan, it it's it's so disappointing, man.
I wish I could do more than this. I wish I could do more than this.
So, it's, you know, it's not hard. It's not hard. And the people who ask, yo, can you give me a tag on on on Twitter when you do a photo? Abso [ __ ] lutely. You are the one who made the stadium. I only adapted it. I maybe updated some textures or did some of this this this.
you made the model or you did the you did the full texture update or you because in my opinion we're we're just we're one community. We're one huge community and all of the stuff that I'm going to update and all of the texture changes that I'm going to do. I wish the pest community just would would use them because that is what this community should be like.
I might just be shouting into the void but it's at least going to get going get the [ __ ] frustration out of my body.
It's this bit that Declan is telling me in chat right now. He is going to continue on making the mods.
He's going to continue not providing credits. He's going to continue with everything as if Yeah, it is this Leo. And uh this stream was originally going to be me building stadiums, which I I'm I can't lie, the last couple weeks have been tough because I spend way too much time on it. And that's my own issue. That's my own problem. I need to sort it out myself. But I've been spending 12 hours at least every day when I when I wasn't working and then still eight hours a day uh on this That is my own problem. That is my own mistake.
I need to get that sorted out.
So, the stadium making, but that was what this stream was going to be because of what people did. This stream is turning into something different because I saw another few comments basically twerking to release some of my my my Patreon stuff for free, right?
That's why I'm making this stream. It's it's here. It's it's full.
Hey, the stick. Yeah, sorry. Sorry to be a downer for once. I I don't like this, but it's it's necessary. Windsor Park is, let me quickly Google. I I've heard the name before.
This is, by the way, probably the longest that I've ever been on one on one single scene. It's Belfast. Belfast.
Okay. Uh, I cannot promise anything just yet, of course.
But may maybe soon, Lynfield.
Yeah, it clears the mind. I have people in my network where I can do this, but they never understand fully because of either age difference or because of um not really knowing how it works online.
They just go to me and say, "Oh, you should ignore them." Yeah, kind of diff kind of difficult.
Uh, so yeah, I can keep repeating myself now now, which is fine, but content theft and no accountability, no responsibility, none of that. And ultimately disappointment in a modder that put out some great stuff, but the foundations weren't his, which, yeah, what more do I say? Hey Medali, I'm ser I'm contemplating. Do I just put boot up and we play on the Vasco save or do we just I don't I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do for the Patreon either. I don't want to pay wallet. But at the same time, I kind of feel like I need to or might need to.
It's I don't know.
I feel empty.
I think that's the best way to describe it. I don't feel anything.
right now. I just don't know.
I will think on it, Phil. Um, hey, SF Logos. It's a It's a It's the beta on the 9th of May. That is a great birthday gift, my dude. Happy birthday in advance.
So, yeah, now that I've got 50 people here on YouTube and a few more on Twitch, uh, the 9th of May is the beta.
For Game Changer on Patreon, you can get it on the 9th of May. The public release is on the 16th of May. So, the week after, we're going to do a big ass [ __ ] stream. Gonna make a whole event out of it. Gonna make a tutorial video explaining all of the stuff. Hey, Stuart.
I could I I've I've been better, my my man.
Yeah, it's it's that dilemma that I really have.
It's that it's that dilemma right there.
But yeah, so much for that for that. Eh, so much for that.
The minority gets on your skin over time. And that is that is the best way to put it. Uh, dark side.
Oh, I've called them out. It's Miguel Fmboards. You had to learn the hard way.
Yeah. So, the thing is, right, most of you modders have been around for at least a year or two um or longer.
This is my first share with the community, so I I really hoped things could be different. Um I don't know.
Yeah. I don't know.
Yeah, we'll we'll boot up FM. We'll just go for a little bit or something. I don't know. I just really want to make it discussible.
That's ultimately I'm in a position now where I have a platform and I believe that if you have a platform like and I'm I I don't have the biggest one, right? I don't have a big platform. It's just I have a a okay platform.
I just want to use it for for change. I just want to use it for good.
There is about 400 different streams you can go and watch right now which are going to be providing you with more quality and more value for for your time.
So yeah, go do that if you want to. No hard feelings at all. It's just I needed to get this off my chest.
Holy can't trust people. I wish I could.
I wish I could.
So, I'm probably going to go in and uh really look at Miguel's code, compare it to to mine, see if there is any similarities.
Thank you so much for the follow, Chapton.
But yeah, the the the the primary feeling that I'm blessed with today is emptiness.
Just Yeah.
I wish it was different.
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