Part 1: Makumba's First interview since Simba Arati gave him a job

Added: 2026-05-26

[00:00:12]Thank you.

[00:00:15]Joseph Muchaga Thank you.

[00:00:31]>> [laughter] >> I'm happy to be here. I'm also patient.

[00:00:34]You have noticed that. I I think I think you are. Thank you so much.

[00:00:38]Now, first of all, I want to congratulate you on the congratulations for the new role quite winning in Kisii County. Yes, I appreciate and I I believe this is for the youth.

[00:00:49]Whatever I will do That's all I'm able to do. You know, for me, I feel you're among the most qualified people now in Simbarashe's government. Oh, really? Yes. The reason being You you are someone who has been appointed to where you belong.

[00:01:05]Yeah, I think so. I think also governor had considered you know, many options, but when he looked at me, he thought that this would work better.

[00:01:15]Yes. Now, how did it happen in Kenya in Kanyora?

[00:01:19]You see, you know, what I'm saying is that I'm not I'm not the best. You know, I think there are even more qualified than me.

[00:01:27]But consistency As I said, I'm going to wait to answer all of your questions. For the longest time is the reason why governor believes that I I then have something that I can represent the youth with.

[00:01:41]Yes.

[00:01:48]Well, you see, I can't say it's a surprise.

[00:01:52]But I can say that Uh, it humbled me. It humbled Because it's not easy to see a governor say all that he said.

[00:02:00]>> With that passion.

[00:02:01]passionately Yes, and it's amazing.

[00:02:04]>> It's amazing.

[00:02:04]>> Yeah. Now, Tunadak, well, you know, sometimes back you went and visited Matiang'i.

[00:02:17]No, no, no, Matiang'i is a is our brother. He's he's a political beginner.

[00:02:21]Of course, he's been a CS for 10 years.

[00:02:23]And um uh the community Yes.

[00:02:38]Fred Tangus Iret Uh, for Fred Ndaterenga Nafiletina in leadership Bili Bili Abili Ledi from another perspective. More than Because he vijana won aiga.

[00:02:59]Nane Nduragakula abanga what impact.

[00:03:02]Young and energetic, you cannot do anything when as a youth. Yeah.

[00:03:09]Uh, today I'm with Fred. Tomorrow and now Simbarati. These are right now and to understand thing about Bakora going out to be antagonists to some extent. I can to join the camp. What transpired?

[00:03:19]You know, as a as a as a young man and a leader a community community get a key >> to me.

[00:03:26]Unity, I believe that anything we can do as a community unity is a commodity.

[00:03:31]Uh, think on your think on your be happy.

[00:03:34]Because history of Simbarati history very exciting to me as a as as a person who has ambitions.

[00:03:42]I feel that is not right.

[00:03:45]And I've uh my my political journey has got more uh hoof and strength. I can only see Simbarati.

[00:03:52]And like I've said before So even as we moved forward with Fred, I felt that Simba needs to be a part of it. Even if he's not a part of it, his contribution is key. Very key. Yeah.

[00:04:08]I'm always dreaming and praying those two people work together. We need because of his political ability. Leave alone development ways but again we can say political ability.

[00:04:18]You know, let me tell you.

[00:04:27]You know, governor is he's he's not experienced.

[00:04:32]>> [snorts] >> So that You cannot tell you cannot join us. If you want to join, you'll join. And even if he doesn't join, he's still you know he'll remain the governor.

[00:04:54]One has a job already.

[00:05:00]So he I think Fred would need Simba more.

[00:05:12]You cannot ignore 207,000.

[00:05:19]He's still You need him.

[00:05:22]So you want Okay, first of all, driving the next point I I think strongly now where you're trying to sing a Simba party Simba party and Fred Matiang'i They are not enemies. And I'm telling you because I'm closer to these people.

[00:05:40]a phone call call log, you realize they talk.

[00:05:45]>> [laughter] >> We will create an imaginary enmity between the two of them.

[00:05:50]is no animosity.

[00:05:52]A symbol delivered from his mouth. Then I go near Matyang'i Now he can do anything whatever he wants for Matyang'i. Onyiego Kakamega flag bearer flag bearer that is the third force. We call him flag bearer because the third force means which means then Simba to govern the government above again Ruto now Fred have a third force.

[00:06:32]Runoff. A runoff when they want the government wins Okay. He will go on three corners and then bargaining without Simba right. He is in a good If if if you do not Simba right trust you me Ruto will have votes in Kisii.

[00:06:57]Again or Simba right he didn't support that Ruto.

[00:07:05]>> [laughter] >> That is the truth.

[00:07:07]I just want to use your conversation you have an idea of what you see guy normally according to you.

[00:07:13]Well I leave that as a matter of Simba corner.

[00:07:17]Um Observation The seat was vacant.

[00:07:33]You know that time Fred was an interior CS.

[00:07:35]Powerful. In fact he was the deputy president. I think Fred I'm not I'm not contesting anything. I'm not It doesn't bother me.

[00:07:47]I don't I don't care about that. The only thing I know that that seat has been vacant for a long time now before anybody else. So they have the decision to make.

[00:08:07]Yes.

[00:08:16]You know you see let me tell you.

[00:08:30]There's no competition.

[00:08:32]There is no competition. Never natural circumstances.

[00:08:37]In fact Yeah, my job is good.

[00:08:47]I received it going to 80 years.

[00:08:50]There's nothing left for him. There's nothing he's going to change.

[00:09:01]Okay. Because my job failed us. So I don't like talking about him.

[00:09:17]I think is good nationally. I love the space he has created for himself national at the national table.

[00:09:30]The discussions are going to begin.

[00:09:33]You see how it picked the whole country.

[00:09:35]I believe that Ounga have to limit his talent of speaking, being you know, knowing how to articulate issues merely limited to becoming a governor. I think a governor is is more of what Simba that is doing at the moment.

[00:09:47]>> Okay. He's more of the performer he is.

[00:09:51]So for Ounga Yes.

[00:09:58]Now, let me dump everything in very simple terms.

[00:10:01]A few things like five good projects Simba that you are going to do. Yes, indeed he deserves to turn. Leave alone now just projects. Yes.

[00:10:10]The first thing into the industrial park in fact I want to take this wastage of money.

[00:10:28]Simba went to Dubai. He found a very serious investor.

[00:10:34]We have a go down there and actually we are beginning.

[00:10:39]Tongari is a massive project. Of course I know the national government is a part of it but the injection of the county You can take it away.

[00:10:52]Kiri family People feeling uh naturally We are building a processing plant here. Yes, it's going to work actually.

[00:11:06]Two days ago I will ATC. Yes.

[00:11:13]And in the two add value We want to mommy and my brother. The county government add the value.

[00:11:30]I mean that is really about what I mean to tell you, you know, value for for money. That's true.

[00:11:34]>> [snorts] >> Number two. Number three.

[00:11:39]He has proved that he's able to collect tax beyond what the former governor was doing. Why? Because make sure that the corruption I I had people saying I don't know they're unhappy, very demoralized. Simba made sure that you can buy every month.

[00:12:04]And your salary is coming. Why are you demoralized?

[00:12:08]So, the taxes they improve you.

[00:12:10]Say tomato game I sent to you.

[00:12:14]And I'm a leader from my church.

[00:12:16]O game before the first time.

[00:12:19]Cables game without a town in the missing I think I would not keep 10 years from where because the cables government have a great town in the town.

[00:12:33]And he's going to do it more. Actually, I'm going to tell him I'll say Wimbe is a He's very busy. Very busy.

[00:12:44]I would have my right to cables Wimbe that class everywhere. O game where I miss it in a big time you get your game.

[00:12:51]And you want to take it to the game to go to area and you go to the world.

[00:12:54]I think it's going to be a big level six guy. I think it's going to be a big game. O game right now. Cables in the Safari Park They're building a very big hospital.

[00:13:04]He has equipped to your account government.

[00:13:10]My government is tall.

[00:13:12]It has to be a correct actually.

[00:13:14]We are We are working on our website. I think it would be a practical. We're working on our website. I'm going to run speed open your watch on video. I think it's going to be a lot of stuff because my music is not everywhere. Recently, we had a meeting of content creators here.

[00:13:28]I don't know.

[00:13:30]>> [laughter] >> We had a meeting of content creators.

[00:13:34]And young people I was inviting there.

[00:13:39]You can tell him it's even hard unless you show them practically. And because you're digital, we're going to make sure our screens everywhere in the county.

[00:13:59]Yes. I want to encourage from the issue of development. Right now I need to talk about the challenges because already officially I hope so.

[00:14:11]All of these because we have sewages, so I tell you a lot of leaking around in the in the town. And then there were these roads that are not done. There are some other complaints across we share.

[00:14:22]But for now I just wanted you to talk about the development based on your observation, which is okay.

[00:14:28]Well, now as a content creator >> [laughter] >> Yeah, yeah, I got to take them.

[00:14:39]There is an enmity I have created in politics.

[00:14:44]One time or you know two times.

[00:14:47]When we were inviting content creators, I reached out to many people including some of the content creators you see.

[00:14:55]And what they did is to laugh back at me.

[00:14:58]Whatever I'm doing is that makes sense.

[00:15:00]But we had creators there in their numbers and the work they will do will be seen practically. So I know you're a content creator. I'll make sure everything is very soon you see the governor. I I need to be invited.

[00:15:10]Governor not your platform and I want to get an interview so that our common money I'll make sure you get Let me tell you what's happening. There is something we calling a hope.

[00:15:23]And then tomorrow we see We can be able to have a conversation.

[00:15:31]You tell the people what's happening.

[00:15:32]Yes. Yeah, that's okay.