BREAKING: Detective Superintendent Mohamed Y.S. Mansaray, Head of the Family Support Unit of the SLP

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[00:00:00]We'll be there this morning and talk to her. Um during that morning we call police morning brief and we say this even forget one big alled talk about something's mouth and so for welcome to this program and we hope say we learn something because the purpose for me One for inform, two for educate and the third one for entertainment listen more small the entertainment aspect if they shortlived and then Saturday if you want for more but the songs and how they perform and how they do and then entertainment industry the part play you go tune on Saturday and then you get that one day.

[00:01:00]So today this evening time we get somebody we can join me in the studio anytime shortly I will give an opportunity for introduce [snorts] but me way they bring the program where the presenter or the anchor of this program meant commissioner of police esqu the med wing of the salon police call me for short med one and so there with me colleague when I colleague because all they do the same you know I call him brother you know introduce that they talk to >> yeah good evening me superintendent Muhammad s Mans the head of family support unit of the sum police >> from the hi's mouth man superintendent of police And now in the head the family support unit very important unit and the salon police and so there unit being the head look for the unit responsibility you tell me you descripture as an individual.

[00:02:20]So wait, family support unit. Family support unit. Okay.

[00:02:38]Thank you very much. um council um my boss of course as the uh economy imply FSU family support unit and then this unit we the idea become just after um we we reel war then people in say okay because of the too much of we have woman in kingdom they exposed to all different type of abuse.

[00:03:11]>> So they say okay there should be a special unit in the sum police where for they look into issues pertaining the protection of women and children. So and after that idea come up uh 2001 now they say okay we don't come up from the domestic violence unit because during the pilot stage domestic violence unit because they use most of the woman picking them after the war so they say okay because of the violence too much on them set of population the pilot So at that time it was domestic violence unit. So just after that then see and say the mandate get for be broaden. So then decide for at least for widen the broad the mandate so that at least you could cover some aspect or areas in the country. So they move from domestic violence and say okay at that time we be under C. C will be just a syndicate under violent crime.

[00:04:20]>> Okay.

[00:04:20]>> Yes. and it will be the just a syndicate at that time I was um part of the C so we are incorporated to that domestic violence unit so because of the significance of the unit and the kind goals them way we be achieved during that period they say okay we're not for just limit if be all over the country so the the transformation they look at and say you know what not just serve as a syndicate right within in the C system they said let it be let it serve as a director it at that time then they call director to it so from there the transition take place from after 1999 to 2001 now they will get the family support unit so the family support units now at that time we like women director they call me okay >> so they say okay let them get a unit which specialize specifically in dealing with sexual gender based violence but During that period of day as I tell you um we be get plenty plenty offenses we investigate but we are less empowered because there was not that much legislations when we talk about laws we at least for protect women and children we for aid the work of families supporting at that particular time so we together with we don't know partners the um administration at that time try for see how best can lobby be around fixed laws them way at least we will aid the work of family support units with regards protecting women and children and other persons in so laws can get forced the domestic violence act and say the the foret >> of gender laws >> where you get the the domestic violence act the devolution of estate act the uh the early marriage and divorce acts And um you get also sorry not marriage and divorce act you get the customary you understand customary marriage and divorce act they get the devolution of estate act so that law they come and help so much that at least we start for doing work effectively because of how effective we work they look like they say okay well now this time around people will start to fight over the FSU who will at least absorb the FSU with regards to director and come now being director. So we go we come up from now um um C we go under gender gender protocols and hospitality. So we did it for a while then after then pull me back for counter crime services we do so now.

[00:07:07]So briefly to your question I just give that background for people understand how we move to with >> so now if you look some of the laws they look at when they look at look at sexual gender based violence you get different different aspect you get the physical aspect you get the economical aspect you get the psychosocial and emotional aspect then you have the sexual aspect and other form of child offenses. So this case we look into based on what the law provide. So when you look at for instance physical violence under the domestic violence now we are in fet >> and when we look at domestic violence we have to also look at domestic setting because we FSU that now we mandate one Mr. and Mrs. two are these people we are in domestic relationship and when you look at the domestic violence the domestic setting is so burdening to an extent that I can recall at one time the the the director at that time size mana he say if we say we go according to the law f will just grab all the cases because domestic relationship not only limited to marriage >> to family to cousins to even you got what you call um cenancy even with we are in a domestic setting because the head of this place is the director or the head of media so the law give that kind guidance so because of that kind way how the law maker will be so powerful that we are overwhelmed with cases so we come and sit down and say okay now let's some aspect of the matters there let's see I did a lady with her Y.

[00:09:02]So for such we mandate now for look into all cases we fall within we reach whether it is physical, economical, sexual, emotional or psychological then we investigate involve picking >> regardless of the offense.

[00:09:23]>> Any kind of offense while speaking involve FSU they deal with her. So if you ask for short for I explain to famble them waiting and we mandate now this I get for now because of time.

[00:09:37]Yeah, I think you do well. Um especially we we take away through the stage where everything start and how we transition from domestic violence unit to the family support unit to the term where they become they begin the laws in 2007.

[00:09:58]you know 207 the last last >> left power we talk about the domestic violence act and devolution of estate act and customary married and so on and so forth. So and um you also in particular the categorization when it comes to looking at foulness whether it is physical whether it's psych psychosocial psychological emotional and sexual all very good for the audience people they listen to me and if they view online good for them so that now say the family support unit they do so you being there as the head scripture Of course. Now for le I give um a [snorts] direct supervision for all the things that will happen within the unit and um also for ensure that me personnel and whosoever is part of the unit must adhere to the standard operating procedure in handling sexual gender based violence because there's a whole standard operating procedure we guide with action.

[00:11:12]Yes.

[00:11:16]>> Most of matter directly pass through.

[00:11:20]>> Yes. Of course. So you you you get we mean one of the own responsibilities for ensure them personnel them glue to that one and then also for at least try for ensure that there is a direct collaboration with the other partners because what we are doing is joint investigation specifically like um you get the ministry of social welfare and gender and children's affairs these are key partners and that is why we also have their their personnel in most of our stations where we refer to as social work workers there. So now for ensure that everything with regards to standard operating procedure must be adhered to and also for ensure that um everything will be geared towards the protection of women and children. We for ensure that we do in a well comport manner and in a professional way. So that's my own oversight that I'm really giving. Okay, that's a good one. Um so let me say every side even get a kind of structure start with foundation they say window height they reach to blah blah blah and also expect every unit must get a kind of structure they make you function you be one man shoe say the head now you no more you kill yourself because work plenty so I don't say the law you always provide for delegation of authority of power provide for decentralization.

[00:12:55]So in the event so which means you investigate from come back you know how they how we are structured and >> thank you so much of course the unit you know is so unique to an extent that we are well prepared to respond to incidences of sexual gender based violence. Okay.

[00:13:18]>> Like for instance, you have the head of family supporting it and I have my deputy >> at the at the directorate level. Then um also I have my operation officer.

[00:13:30]>> Right. So this then three people there including the ops minor.

[00:13:36]>> Okay.

[00:13:36]>> We all get we own rules and responsibility in responding to those incidences. Yeah. And when you come, we say okay everything about investigating issues or handling cases of sexual gender based violence there are two things involved. You must one be accountable of those cases and also be transparent and within the princip of us being responsible and giving account of those cases that we are investigating.

[00:14:08]We ensure that there are structures. We get what we call the national database.

[00:14:13]>> The the national database get a national data manager. We in the coordinate all the other data officers then countywide.

[00:14:26]>> Then when you commodate we say okay we have six police regions.

[00:14:31]>> We say okay for us to be represented in those regions we have what we refers to as now. Before it was FS coordinators but when I assume office the FS coordinator's office because I was once an office FS coordinator I see I say when I say FS coordinator you feel say you are just there to coordinate the personnel. So what I did is like we say okay we add one other key thing way for ensure that you not you not only for coordinate personnel but for ensure that you monitor and try for ensure that everything regarding cases of SGPV you get for ensure them try for arriving to a logical conclusion. So we we are design with team we okay now it is regional crime coordinators FSU regional crime coordinators. So it's FSUC now. So it's not RC regional coordinator. So we have them in all the six police regions >> and each of them one we also not just send them then get the rules and responsibility or mandates >> region one for coordinate crime. For instance, if you did the south something happen the far far part of the south you ensure that you able to respond. If you're not able to respond before monitor that matter to in final conclusion. So that's also we don't add that aspect and um equally so we look at and say okay the responsibility is not for also limited from giving account of what we are investigating where we have the data manager and also the regional coordinators are there to represent the directorate right so that at least the personnel they specific regions in there know exactly what they do and try for do in a perfect way >> upon the supervision of the coordinators. We also try and see how we need to also trace and give account of cases sent to court. So what we did is like we we we see how we post all that the courts the way they deal with SGB we get what we call court monitors.

[00:16:49]>> Okay. And then court monitors and they spread all over the country and they roll back. We design a rule and mandate where they know exactly what for ensure that for know the status of that case and how that case don't wait what they happen during the process >> the problem that the police the problem the witness the problem the survivor waiting then they tell me exactly if the survivor need a protection. Say for instance the way we look at this case we need to protect the victim.

[00:17:21]>> If we not protect the victim at the end of the day then we tamper with whatever evidence we don't care another court. So upon that information we work with other partners for ensure that we protect the victim >> and um after all that then can tell we now those cases that we've sent to court >> why the the status for instance if they don't then the conviction or if then throw the case out of court the reason make them you understand so then they help with know the convictions that we don't and how the case at the court so for short these are some of structures we have at the family support unit for we ensure that we effectively handle issues pertaining um women and children with regard sexual gender. Okay. So that appears to be um very good one. So at divisional level also get structure to say this sport get your name maybe kind of [snorts] division level. Well, the FSU um different small from the C because for us we have general line managers whe post whe stations. So all of them manager SGBV >> you the accountable officer for give account of whatever case when they report to you. If anything go wrong now you directly hold responsible even though we have the divisional line manager to that extent that make posting at every division there must be a senior.

[00:19:02]>> Okay.

[00:19:02]>> Now the divisional headquarter when I rank different from the one them stations. So that they tell you and we also they select that person when I well grounded somebody right with regards handling SGB cases.

[00:19:19]So in something like a consultant they want ask so like let go through come up from then go to the coordinator. So like you can post or station you ask the division line manager if you get problem the division line manager in return if for support he can support. So now they work within the pre of boot game quote unquote for ensure that at least we continue protection of women and children. Okay. So um you know motor man um over if you know they refresh a lot of things school learn college even within the police at professional level get the tendency forget and people in the transfer transfer people. So which means at some point people exit one day and with time some knowledge experience because the more you do the more expect but things happen. Imagine issues in the car within the same family support unit or they call sexual gender based violence. So how we the initute of capacity?

[00:20:39][snorts] >> Well um since the inception of this um unit uh capacity strengthening is the oxygen that holds everything about FS.

[00:20:53]>> Okay. and um capacity strengthening in the form of training >> and that's one aspect in terms of um human capital wherein you look at the human resource based and see how we can get a a successful success system.

[00:21:14]>> Yeah. If like we think about brain drain say okay um Muhammed today I don't pass through all the stages now this unit >> now don't reach where we can refer to as he don't jump scale >> mhm >> right at any time from now I have to go elsewhere >> so now what make me a leader we highly productive is wherein you have to train others >> so like you will get a positive su successions to it. So how we can do like based on new approach within the team it's like we we get what we call the instrument who they use the key performance indicators. We know you we know which you good at we know you your plus and minus. So we can set them already. So like if you see me now you have some coordinators at any time some of them get for them they get for retire.

[00:22:15]already set somebody to the line managers. And now if you look at the units presently, I believe say boldly enough and with confidence I can tell you say FSU is the only unit in the CRM police that uphold gender inequality. and make him boast for tell you say if you look at the disparity between man and woman then the unit >> if you go for 100% I will tell you say the man them the man then gets 60%. the woman they get 40% representation. So you see now if you go more side you see more line managers. So as I'm speaking now one of the things I had discussion with the inspector general of police is wearing because who attended meeting them and they tell we say we go upline we need to see frontline managers who are women and you know transfer when it comes to for people the bulk of the the source for them send them so all it's really with a management in a professional for that but there must be representation of female line managers there. So as they speak so we don't begin send them strategic position because we need the female representation because the donor partners that we are working with that's their baby. So everything about the FSU it's well said the system is working and we are ensuring that it continue to work.

[00:23:52]>> Okay. So that's a good one. Um okay you at some point you tell me say um work with so which means get that kind of inter agency collaboration.

[00:24:06]So how for say example I get social welfare like we say I get UNF and and a host of others how they help each other you know how rely on the police and how the police rely on them they call symbiotic relationship you know how it happen of course we get a a well sustained relationship with our partners Because everything about our actions driven by the support of our partners.

[00:24:42]>> If you look at joint investigation, we are not only handling issues of SGB alone.

[00:24:46]>> Mhm.

[00:24:47]>> Because we therefore involve other partners then for help us during the course. So that the end of the day when the case go court then see the high level of professionalism and proficiency in handling that matter. I mean most times with convictions be very accurate.

[00:25:03]Yeah. And um when we look at for instance if we identify say there is a gap that needs to be addressed when it comes to investigative skills in different different cases. We need a specialized training on sexual offenses.

[00:25:21]We need a specialized training on child trafficking. We need a specialized training on children in contact with the law. We identify those partners and when we go we tell the partners them and tell them this is our problem. They they will look at our annual work plan and see how they can fit in. And when they support we towards that goal then they really come with us with a day in the meeting then identify the problem together with us. Like for instance, UNICEF.

[00:25:53]UNICEF when we write we proposal we sit on we tell them say that this we lack then UNICEF will look at our proposal and try for fa to them and then they will get us we have that consultative meeting and see how they can help. Like when I took over um office, one of the thing I identify is like ever since the establishment of family supporting need there was no survey which we as a baseline survey >> for trifor know the the what FSU need some of the things. So we sit down and see in a in a different platform and try for we identify one of key partner. So one of initiative initiative look at say okay we go under the spotlight initiative project say okay we go able do this baseline survey and when we conducted that survey plenty evolution come out and that's surveyor we use now for at least engage with other partners then for see how can assist the FSU because the issue about um combating SGB cases it is not only the SLP you know it has to be multis sectoral >> so that at least we try for beat that many of this country >> so we always bring them on board and then when we do the baseline we don't popularize the baseline we use part of the baseline survey and interestingly it was the inspector general of police that launches that baseline survey yeah so with the user now for popularize and then both partners then they identify different different areas As I'm speaking recently, we just conclude a training >> you know sponsored by UNICEF in three regions B mintown for 100 personnel and that one was also a specialized training. So soon we will also commence another training that will be supported by UNDP.

[00:27:57]>> Okay.

[00:27:57]>> Right. So you see everything like we have a very cordial relationship with our partners and they are there to support us.

[00:28:05]>> Okay. Um if you look at the job one they do you talk about they deal with picking them women as well and um domestic issues and sometimes when somebody can't make statements they put out a lot of information personal information toner and even the the kind of violence [clears throat] will be not sexual violence just for spill the beans because evidence understand what happen and then at the end of the day make okay and we convict this person but is of confidentiality given the fact that a lot of information come notice law investigations. I want to download those ones. That one is very key. And um for you to be a trained FSU personel investigator >> that issue of confidentiality secrecy.

[00:29:21]>> Mhm.

[00:29:22]>> Confidentiality and secrecy. M >> then one thing we even doing we training that one we continue for heavily because if for instance somebody don't confide in you >> he don't tell you say some people say um Mr. Camar you know more are comfortable for talk to >> Mhm.

[00:29:46]>> and it go explain everything about you.

[00:29:49]This is about the individual dignity.

[00:29:51]>> Yeah.

[00:29:52]>> It expose everything to you.

[00:29:54]>> And I hope say nobody not this. Yeah.

[00:29:58]When the issue when it comes to professionalism we uphold to that highest.

[00:30:04]>> Okay. Because even >> the other officer if me don't say you when a survival come with facility >> Mhm. We know they say they deal with the case after the counseling psychosocial support don't give you we allow you for make a choice whether you want for deal with your case and that's where we start to restore and uphold the the the dignity of the survival he tell you say come watch everybody say Mr. this man case.

[00:30:47]>> Okay.

[00:30:48]>> And I comfortable with NC outline that quality you talk to and everything about that lawyers call.

[00:31:02]>> Okay.

[00:31:03]That one is part of the confidentiality and secrecy. When she get everything about whatever information documented in that case and inquiry now this woman the accessor even the other person not the accessor involve other person like for instance the social worker involve like any other investigator as the co we get for consult you so this process so we work And the reason why we want involve the social worker the social worker there >> involve the co-investigator sometime take record.

[00:31:52]>> Okay.

[00:31:53]>> For help me like for instance we man >> life if anything wrong with me this man testify but no more if I die then the case done. So with that kind thing the person they understand the reason why you need them people around and everything about what is discussed there it is secret. So issue of confidentiality personnel bridge we ask out of the unit because you start for le or spoil the m or make the people look at fs say we are not competent enough to handle issues of secrecy. Okay, we don't go out. We don't see a lot of things about structure, um, capacity, inter agency, collaboration.

[00:32:43]Uh but sometimes when you go find cancer. Yeah. Everything happen say police traffic police man.

[00:33:11]So police self get specific specializes.

[00:33:28]So now let me say within the police yes you don't collaborate very well with the outside but within the police now how you collaborate with t collaborate with traffic collaborate with community how how they move around seamlessly nobody feel pain pain in a sense the same ask for information especially information where he supposed to get and the one and make confidentiality and secret that's fine I talk about but you know that kind small small get for assist each other for work we done faster police station you make this case man they play midfield plays protect understand some protect so I for get along >> when it comes to collaboration that now one key tool we use in joint investigation okay now and Um even me colleague them heads within a different different units at the police >> will attest to this fact and um if for instance there is a robbery case or a lassin case where you speak >> okay h we already don't from them can get training >> then they invite Okay.

[00:35:22]>> We go tell them the role of C >> in handling child related >> cases.

[00:35:31]>> Mhm.

[00:35:32]>> So now the law don't tell we say all issues pertaining picking >> so one thing we can tell them during or for them to adhere to the referral pathway.

[00:35:47]>> Mhm. Now one way for say involve picking you contact the FSU.

[00:35:53]Okay. FSU we are well trained. We get everything with we for ensure that we talk to that pin like a pin.

[00:36:04]>> Okay.

[00:36:04]>> And for lady picking able communicate to we like a pin and we able to talk to the pin like a pin.

[00:36:11]>> Okay.

[00:36:12]>> And we get plenty succession story on that one. So that is one aspect and um we they collaborate with different unit because one when you look at sexual offenses case >> uh sometimes we visit crime scene and we are not crime scene officers we go we go try for inform if possible head of C or the head of scientific support to ensure that at least they're able with um suku officers.

[00:36:47]>> Mhm.

[00:36:47]>> So we they go together with the so officers and the crime scene then.

[00:36:52]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:36:53]>> Then know in different different offense when you go if sexual crime scene you know what you are looking for.

[00:36:59]>> Yeah.

[00:37:00]>> If in other form of domestic violence we get what we can call. Okay. When it comes to in the aspect of um digital gender based violence. Mhm.

[00:37:16]>> We not to the expert in looking into that phone, try to analyze that phone.

[00:37:21]We also collaborate with the cyber unit >> and um all that collaboration with formality wherein we write and inform your unit specifically on what we need from you and with that expert opinion, it aid our investigation for us to have a good case. So it cut across all the units and that's how we continue to work and that's how we will be working.

[00:37:49][snorts] Yeah. This okay this time for general knowledge for the people out there.

[00:37:55]you get SP matters especially when SP 18 years you know I get one say most pay attention to one pay attention to the the medical reports understand they pay attention to the I call this birth certificate they also they pay attention to the scene of crime I need photos and all the rest of it for collaborate within the the victim be telling her about this set up and down and so on and so forth.

[00:38:31]Understand? But um sometimes the parent or whatever find difficult for for I think they know the importance of you know even report card the things you need report card or other stuff instead of buy certificate or as I just for for the for enlightening the public on this area. So kind look for they look for them because part of the evidence they need for succeed for proow as the case may be in certificate. So I use this opportunity for Nick.

[00:39:23]>> Thank you so much. That's one very important and I will take my time for I do the analysis and [snorts] uh when it come to age assessment >> it's so key to that extent that now you get the sentencing guideline >> we the court they use now >> for tell you how important age assessment is and if you miss the age assessment from that point you've already conclude in that investigation where at the end of the day a bad case you will Yeah.

[00:39:54]>> So now we have two different fold >> you get the informal and the formal way in assessing age. But one thing where I want everybody understand here is like the the the physical appearance of the individual has nothing to do with the assumption of is age.

[00:40:14]>> Okay.

[00:40:15]>> You get some people they young but they don't pass it.

[00:40:18]>> Yes.

[00:40:19]>> You get some people you see they also 14 years. Yeah.

[00:40:22]>> So that comes that they bring FSU technicality >> now only telling say officer I don't say this speaking they don't pass it don't pass 14 years and we have to prove that one during the formal interrogation we ask you series of question if you remember they tell you speak but if they school I think without answer alone school don't give you one action okay then assume in a situation where you not go school can say you get that you be born anything happen we to call historical event oh yeah the time be born now that same way where there be kill them police so automatically say that people come up and kill them police so you know straight is August 10ugust >> so that's aspect so we start to develop our case from there >> okay for court are very short with all them facts they cannot get we clear all those ambiguities we go clear clear all but the last result the last and medical.

[00:41:51]We can issue medical [snorts] to the far whoever come for then police escort them to the medical doctor >> for tell me the age of this picking.

[00:42:09]Then from there the medical can return and it they give an assumption of the picking age. So now upon that we can use and see how we can know if they speak and it also can help the court for know during the sentencing guideline for know how will he some heavy penalty against the defendant. Mhm.

[00:42:34]>> So age assessment is part of our tool that we are using and it's so important to an extent that that if you joke with her you don't spoil the case.

[00:42:48]>> So make every training that one is part of the schedule for we know how people identify the one. So for instance already out there >> if you police they ask you too much of question why you ask me question I don't tell you >> because if you not give them information they ask you when that case they get the blame blame >> so make we personel them even that we train them how they can handle those situation because therefore also know one thing again this only speaking foolish you know how disturbed that entire thing. So we can look at them people and they say for now the kind stress and that kind person. So as us we a professional >> we just need for ensure we continue for counelor hope for understand and know the process and believe in the process. So we continue for handle and then cooperate the beginning but we can frown at any other official.

[00:44:11]Yeah, >> because you are well trained to manage them kinds for ensure that you see how you can draatize the individual so that you can make a case.

[00:44:23]>> Okay. [snorts] Um maybe not too far we kind of police station and then this case we don't go to DPP now law or is it part of the MOU that any of which do and we make always say hey the file to people to man I think I think you identify the bottleneck and I like that because now they get problem with the public >> and I make this very clear to everybody you know how it happen for send all case to the DPP >> we can go way back way back years yes >> we go the charge direct because if the police miss >> the DPP police office they correct the mistake and say do they send the file back so that we will at least the correct charges them against the individual so all the matters that they go to the DPB but because of they are close partners then get different offices and the different cases holding the if for instance sexual offenses then get a designated desk and personnel them ready for that >> and get a desk off >> yes so then they look into all case and peruse and look cut them back because they are also crime oriented personally.

[00:45:56]So then they look at her then they see if there is a good case then they adise >> okay >> then say okay in fact they give the advice for sexual offenses is direct indictment this one indictment people gets great missual case to the chief justice. They give justice back from there. They now they do the indictment.

[00:46:34]Then the indictment now you know who they serve.

[00:46:37]>> Mhm.

[00:46:37]>> We they serve you the accused at that time.

[00:46:42]So when we serve you now then we take you now to a judge because they don't assign you already to a judge.

[00:46:49]When it come to other forms of domestic violence then they give advice. Even now physical abuse most often then say um considering the relationship between X and Y they say we advise for lad this matter then we don't tell if say there is sufficient evidence >> against this person but considering the relationship that exists between XY we advise for solve this matter amicably say if settlement fail fail then you charge the person to court. So always there is room for ADI. If the area fail then the FSU has no alternative but to charge the person to court and that's where the FSU is most often say we are family scatter unit and interestingly let me tell you one thing >> I think the last time at conference I I said this and I will say this again >> me one they say FSU family scatter unit you know what >> we we what they talk about SGB is not only for women and children yeah even we demand that we are also incorpor created in that >> but the most vulnerable population where if you look to statistics almost 70% of our population in this country woman so if you go you say becausera always for the show sol you know what you are doing to that population so me as far as I'm concerned with my team is to ensure that if that domestic violence is aggravated there is no alternate You know why?

[00:48:38]You find out say the domestic violence all cow.

[00:48:42]>> Mhm.

[00:48:42]>> Because of the actions they take >> more people report to the FSU. Mhm.

[00:48:57]report to FSU report for local court.

[00:49:02]It's because we really want to stop this kind thing and if we really want to develop we must protect those population we refers to as vulnerable women and children. So that's for people understand most times the bureaucracy we involve in our investigation. So if you ask me I think I >> Yes people from the FSU head salon salon police and this interest because now now more police officers department as well for now and so for ask question so that people understand they talk about the DPP the director of public prostitution. that one day the constitution 1991 constitution power you know under section um 66 then establish the that office the office of the DPP and power one power for institute criminal actions you know and one power we call you know let me start the case he going to court say this case this she get a lot of power and that's how we call official department and so then for look into all support to the the AG the attorney general the attorney general the constitutional section 64 and creates that office [snorts] you know then 66 creates the uh um the DPP then 65 creates the solicitor general you know so now very important people so government work for work in the interest of the state so look and then if there understand but how this country say this person do something especially on this criminal law for so the fact the Police don't get and tell you say oh this person case you look at the fact look at what the law say and we believe in charitate maybe get one or two things for you say police go back and go do one or two things back again finally say this matter but how we say talk about AD alternative dispute resolution sometimes we Informal resolution. This one way you do outside the court formal take indict indictment business domestic domestic violence unit come all day. I feel we we we need for understand and we for understand now except otherwise and so we get again the cast and the final question we pay attention to the camera so they talk to >> okay then goodbye message of course um you see I just want everybody understand the work of the family support unit and let everybody believe the family support unit We continue for execute, we mandate and for ensure that uh every right pertaining all persons especially women and children will be uphold to the highest degree and I also they encourage whosoever they listen me for ensure that um this is not time for blaming the family support unit. Come sit with us identify us problems and come and see how will we help for improve the face of the families opportunity because issues surrounding sexual gender based violence is a complex something which needs multis sectoral approach. So we really need everybody just that population where you mention let everybody come and assist the FSU and I can assure with short assistance before we get the FSU will respond accordingly to the expectation of republic and at the end of the day those vulnerable group where we say their rights are not respected protected and promoted will be something like a theme of the past because we have All it takes now for respond timely and what they talk about respond it encompasses but not limited to many many logistics vehicle >> um stationary training other equipment with regards data collection when I come and see we pisp because at the end of the day whatever thing you do with regards the protection of women and children if there is no conviction then at the end of the day this f you know make sense so help us and see what the FSC will do. I thank you all for listening. May God bless us all. Thank you um our Al today and we gladly for what you can do because we take your time for explain the things that we can come to now as usual we get our producer ASP and of course we get visual man inspector We get one with our sister and we get today get um how you call Jal you know Jalo we the assistant constable and then we get the station we get Val as well another Jalo and they get Papa Mike you know Mike Tango as we call her inspector Ku they All this program you know and me present this program ACP coming with the one and so today we get the head of family support unit talk to me and [clears throat] we want to say um head of FSU >> we are happy that you came and we hope say anything we need you we come back and support the salon police online television no problem because this one for even if on on FS business we call you come explain to the people can talk to the people so that get confidence in salon no problem at any time thank you so much God bless Okay.