Tai Chi for Bone Health? Here’s What the Research Shows w/ Dr. Pedram Shojai

Ajouté : 2026-05-30

[00:00:00]Bone remodeling is a slow process. You can't just take a pill and things will be all better.

[00:00:04]>> Tai Chi, Chiang. If you do these practices, inflammation in your entire body goes down. Your blood sugar management gets better. Your ability to recover gets better. Your hormonal balance gets better. Your adrenals recover. The people who did those things were the people who got better rapidly.

[00:00:22]And the people who were like, "Nah, what else do you got?" or flop on a table and say, "Fix me." the people that kept doctor shopping and kept looking for solutions outside of themselves and [music] because they can't put in a pill, they're just like, "Oh, would you look at that?" Right? If you haven't done so already, go ahead and click that subscribe button down below. It's a little red button. You punch that [music] and it's going to notify you every time we put out a new episode that can help you improve your bone health.

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[00:01:12]Welcome, welcome to this episode of the Bone Code Show. Joining us today to explore how ancient wisdom in the modern world can help improve your health and vitality is Dr. Pedram Shoouji. Dr. Pedum Shoouji is a man with many titles.

[00:01:25]He is the founder and director of the Urban Monk Academy. He's the New York Times best-selling author of the books Rise and Shine, The Urban Monk, The Art of Stopping Time, Inner Alchemy, Exhausted, Trauma, Focus, and Conscious Parenting. He's the producer of the movies Vitality, Origins, Prosperity, and The Great Heist, and the docue series Interconnected: Gateway to Health, Exhausted, Trauma, Conscious Parenting, Hormones, Health and Harmony, and Gut Check. He's the host of the Urban Monk podcast and is a key influencer in the health and personal development space. He's a prominent physician in the functional medicine space and is known for his ability to bring people together around ideas that matter. Doing all this, he's a chill guy who now lives up in the mountains and values his days of how much time he gets with his family. As a former monk, he strives to bring enlightenment and peace to the world around him. Dr. Pedum, welcome to the show.

[00:02:21]>> Good to be here. Glad to have you.

[00:02:23]>> Good to see you.

[00:02:24]>> Yeah, good to see you again. Let's talk about a little bit about your journey and I mean you you've really been a leader in the health and wellness space for quite some time. You've developed all these documentaries, docuer, books that have helped and changed so many lives. I'd love to hear a little bit about your journey from being a talis monk to a doctor of oriental medicine and then the author and film producer.

[00:02:48]How did you even get on this path in the first place?

[00:02:51]>> Yeah, it sounds like a crazy stumble, doesn't it? You follow the breadcrumbs.

[00:02:55]And when I finished my monastic training, took ordination, I studied with all sorts of interesting characters around the world, took my doctorate in oriental medicine and realized that industry was just nent. There was no industry.

[00:03:11]You know, you're either hanging a shingle or like walking the streets trying to help people. The the doctors aren't referring to you. And so I said, "Well, let me go, you know, Trojan horse my way into the medical model. Started a medical group, multiple offices, doctors, physical therapists, all of it." And, you know, was doing a lot of good, but realized I was on the wrong side of the equation. And, you know, the only way you got paid by insurance companies at the time was if you had a diagnosible illness. And all of my training was to avert that iceberg, right? So waiting for a diagnosible illness takes eight out of 10 of my my tool bag away from me. The whole point was to keep people from getting sick.

[00:03:55]And so I realized in order to fulfill my mission, I needed to swim upstream.

[00:04:00]Started doing corporate wellness for about 1,400 companies. Helped a lot of people there. But then I found myself repeating myself a lot. The lifestyle game for the most part is pretty generalized. and then you could get really personal and individualized. But if you're not doing the general broad strokes first, you're missing 90% of the value. And so started doing a lot of media, started writing a lot. Found that I, you know, enjoyed it. Wrote a book, did well, wrote another book, did well, kept going, and then realized people don't read. So then I started doing film and and video more because you got to meet people where they're at. It's really easy to sit on some pedestal and get cranky about, you know, people not reading anymore. But if you're if your mission is to help said people, then meet them where they're at and help them. And so, you know, I've just kind of taken the next logical step at every point in my career. And here we are.

[00:04:58]Now, as you've written these books and developed these docue series and created these documentaries, you've interviewed a lot of different health experts along the way. And in that process, have you found there to be consistent themes or lessons or what are some of the things that really stood out to you that people listening could take away from this and say, "Okay, I can make these changes and at least move the needle a little bit in my health."

[00:05:25]>> Yeah. I would say that the the first kind of important distinction differentiation is and this is broad strokes obviously we're going to run into kind of two general types of character out there in the health and wellness space. The ones that are saying take my pill, my potion, my lotion, my solution and voila, it's all going to be better selling you know miracles and using marketing to make you believe that their thing is the thing and all that.

[00:05:52]And then there's the people that are like, "Yo, this is going to be a little work, right? This is, you know, this has to do with how you went to the grocery store today. This has to do with the choice you made after dinner. It has to do with the fact that you sat there and watched TV and didn't go for the walk with the dogs." And so lifestyle is tough because lifestyle requires action from the end user. But everyone I know who's worth listening to is being honest, saying there isn't a quick fix and here's what you got to do to fix it.

[00:06:23]But the good news is we are pretty good at understanding why the lifestyle crisis is destroying our health. We're pretty good at understanding why chronic health chronic diseases are now on us.

[00:06:37]And we're pretty good at understanding how to undo it. except we're just going against a ton of media messaging saying, "Nah, just, you know, here's the new mattress that solves all your problems, right?" And so the the sober, intelligent health care practitioners that are out there trying to teach you how to fish are the ones I like to listen to, and those are the ones I interview because they're being honest and they're helping you heal your entire life, not just mask another symptom.

[00:07:07]>> Yeah. and and in your books you talk about or you emphasize the important of integrating ancient wisdom into modern life. Can you talk about what that looks like for people? Yeah. I look I think every time grandpa dies in in any village a library burned down and I think there's a tremendous amount of wisdom in our technological rush to modernity that we've left behind. And you know, there's a reason why folks slowed down to Siesta. There's a reason why you had meals with family. There's a reason why you, you know, visited your parents and had the grandparents babysit. Like all of this kind of interconnected web of thousands of years of our upbringing kind of fell apart in three generations. And I became uniquely interested back at UCLA when I was premed looking at some of the Asian traditions, Tai Chi, Chiang, some of these longevity practices in general. I was like, "Holy crap, every study I read about this is like a slam dunk, but nobody cares because you can't put it in a pill." And so I I became a student of these incredible transformative practices. We now have a lot more understanding of what they do and why they are so supremely helpful. At the time we knew that they worked. We didn't understand how they worked and the industry poo pooed them because there wasn't really a commercial application beyond going to the park and taking care of yourself. And so the more I looked into that, the more I started prescribing that to my patients, I learned very quickly that the people who did those things were the people who got better rapidly. And the people who were like, "Nah, what else do you got?" or flop on a table and say, "Fix me." The people that kept doctor shopping and kept looking for solutions outside of themselves instead of taking on the nexus of control, instead of taking agency and taking control of their lives. And you know, it was it became pretty stark. It was clear as day. You want to get involved in being better, do things that make you better. And I'm not saying it has to be the Chinese stuff.

[00:09:17]You could pray. You could stretch. You could do yoga, but do something that helps you integrate your mind, your body, and your spirit in a way that's meaningful to you. And you will start to see the NFCappa B pathways shift. You will start to see systemic inflammation come down. As a matter of fact, there are numbers numbers of studies showing this. And because they can't put in a pill, they're just like, "Oh, would you look at that?" Right? But if you read the literature on this, it's very clear that if you do these practices, inflammation in your entire body goes down, your blood sugar management gets better, your ability to recover gets better, your hormonal balance gets better, your adrenals recover. I mean, it just the list goes on and on. But, and there's a big butt, you got to do something for 10 minutes a day. Oh, no.

[00:10:09]You know, and that's just not the American way because we're so habituated to buying a solution to our problems.

[00:10:16]>> And the solution is not necessarily us actually doing the work, right?

[00:10:21]>> No, no, no. God forbid. I mean, you've been trained to be lazy because that's how marketing loves to get you, right?

[00:10:27]Is, you know, yes, I know you can increase your bone density by getting on a rebounder or doing a power plate or lifting some weights, but you know, here's the pill, bro. just take it. And and you you know better than any that you know those people wash up on the beach of your your practice saying, "Hey, this crap isn't working. The side effects aren't there." You know, it's just it's not it's not the solution that's promised, but it's so easy that it's very easy to fall for it.

[00:10:57]>> Yeah. So many people are promised a magic bullet, a single solution, a pill, something like that that is this quick fix that's the thing that's going to cure it all. And it doesn't. That's just not how it works. Especially in the world of bones, too. I mean, bone remodeling is a slow process. You can't just take a pill and things will be all better. There's multiple areas that need to be addressed within your health. And that that ranges anywhere from your stress, your sleep, your exercise, your hormones, your diet, nutrition, your absorption, getting rid of toxic relationships, clearing those from your life. One thing that I know you talk about is you talk about true health begins with a still mind and a pure heart. What is that like for the the listener that hears that?

[00:11:39]Could you explain that a little bit?

[00:11:41]>> Yeah, I think we have really lost the script on our ability to shift our reality based on our perception of events instead of the events themselves.

[00:11:56]I mean, I could read the news right now, any time, any day, and get so incredibly pissed off about where the world is at and be in a foul mood and be a bad dad and, you know, not sleep well and just go down, down, down one very particular path. or I can be informed but then move quickly to do the things that I need to do for myself and take positive steps towards saying, "Well, look, the dogs still need to take a walk. The kids need to play soccer. What can I do to help my community and shift my perspective on all of that?" And so, it falls back on me. it falls back on my my nourishment of the different areas of my life that need to be I call them plants in the in your life garden, right? Like if you're not watering those plants, they're starting to wither, right? And so your health and your vitality being one, but what about your relationships? What about your career? What about your passions? What about all of these areas in your life that need to be simultaneously watered on a given week so that you can grow your whole life in a meaningful direction. And so, you know, it used to be that this was the squishy stuff, right? Oh, yeah. You know, love and peace, that's great.

[00:13:14]Right now, we're realizing that having a loving heart and gratitude is one of the most psychologically formidable ways of staying healthy in a way that is that is supportive of not just your health, but your family's health, your long-term health, your ability to drive outcomes in a meaningful way. Right? Gratitude.

[00:13:42]Everyone talks about it now, right?

[00:13:43]because the studies are very clear. But what does that mean? Right? That means blessing things in your heart. That means letting things go. That means forgiving those who slighted you. That means trying to understand where someone is coming from instead of, you know, rushing to judge and hate, right? And so this has become part and parcel of the medicine we need now as a society going into a world where we're just trying to get busier and stay busy and our attention is being sucked into Tik Tok or wherever the hell it's being pilfered and you know if we lose ourselves any further there's nothing left right someone's got to water the garden and if it's not you it's not happening because Tik Tok isn't pulling your attention back into your life's priorities. Tik Tok is selling your attention to the highest bidder, as is Facebook, as is the entire digital space, right? It's a parasitic entity that's sucking your attention away from your life and into a marketplace where your attention has now become commoditized. And so, if you don't take it back, you don't stand a chance. And that's why I've really come back to the monk stuff saying, ' man, this has to be front and center because you're telling me you don't have time to work out. I'm telling you that it's all in your head because your priorities are leaving no room for workouts. Now, you just mentioned you come back to the monk part. Now, you you're a toist monk under the the study of a kung fu master. Now, people might not actually know what a monk is. So could you explain maybe what a monk is and then I would love to hear what is that what was that experience like for you? What was a dayto-day as a monk? What did that look like and what were the the things that you learned from that experience?

[00:15:35]>> I had kind of a non-conventional path with this because I was at UCLA premed decided I didn't want to go the traditional medical route. Found a kung fu master through an interesting you know set of events and he was like hey I've been expecting you. So suddenly I become a disciple of a kung fu master who's the senior student of an abbott of you know the yellow dragon monastery and you know lineage and as I started studying more and more I realized that this is my jam you know and and I really enjoyed it. My body came to life my mind came to life it was very you know I was doing 30 hours a week of all this training and the old man was the old man was away from the temple when the communists showed up burned down the temple and killed everyone he knew. He was at another temple visiting and so they smuggled him on a boat to Chinatown, San Francisco and eventually got to Los Angeles where he taught my teacher and then eventually I studied with the old man for a number of years and he's passed since and he's you know one of the most renowned great grandmasters of our time and they had decided the temple had burned down but he had enough core students to revive the lineage. is like you're going to become a monk of the order. Here are the rules. Four years of monastic program, but and then I had letters of intro to different monasteries around the world to sit with the Daly Lama, the Mapala Lama. I mean, I got to I got to travel the world and sit with some very interesting folks. But that wasn't the most interesting part. The most interesting part was, you know, here's some breath work exercise. Now, go disappear into the woods for 3 weeks and practice this and come back and tell me what you found. And that's where you know you really you really mine for the gold the inner gold right the alchemical process is an internal process. And so for four years I was in that program and then taking off I my deal with them was look I can't leave school. My immigrant parents worked too hard to get me here.

[00:17:32]And so I took my doctorate in oriental medicine while I was doing the program and then went on sbatical multiple times and then took ordination 2001 and then became an abbot of the lineage I think 2011 or 12 and so there's very you know there's a few few of the old-timers left. I'm the youngest of that lineage at this point and so it's I have to train others in the practices, you know, but I, you know, like I've I've got a very kind of syncratistic vision of it all, you know, I I I think Christ is great, right? I studied Judeo-Christian traditions for years. I studied Cabala for years. I studied Sufism. Because I was a Dowist student doesn't mean I'm a Dowist. It means that I have a dowist tendencies, but I have very I have interests along multiple channels, right? I think there's a lot of really interesting gospel out there. I think there's a lot of really interesting conversations happening around around a lot of things. And I think it's it's time, right, for these conversations to kind of come up more given, you know, the way folks are so supremely distracted now in the world that we live in.

[00:18:39]>> And you mentioned breath work as a key part of that training. And some people may just be entering into that realm today where they hear it. They hear this this tool this that they can access now and maybe it's on an app that they've heard of or maybe they heard it on a summit and they're just now exploring this world of breath work. Can you talk about what that is and how it can help people improve their health? And maybe if you have one of your favorite techniques that you want to share with people as well. Hey, it's bone coach Kevin Ellis. I want to take one more minute to talk about if you are somebody who was newly diagnosed with osteopenia or osteoporosis [music] and you're at a point where you're stressed, you're worried, you're overwhelmed, you have no idea where to start or how to get started getting confident in your plan.

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[00:20:13]>> Sure.

[00:20:14]>> Yeah. Breath work is really our nexus of control to our inner world. It's one of the easiest places to anchor your consciousness to retroflect your attention. What does that mean? It means turn your attention inwards on your inner state. And that in and of itself has amazing consequences for your psychology, for your agency, for your ability to be present and make better decisions for yourself in in in a room to say no to the cheesecake. There's a lot of really compelling evidence to suggest that that is the medicine, right? And breath work is really one of the easiest and most powerful ways to go there quickly because you're not going to be able to not focus on your breath for very long, right? So, holding your breath 5 minutes, I think the world records 24 minutes, right? Most of our listeners are not even close. So being able to observe the breath and observe how the breath gently comes in and out of the body. And there's all sorts of different techniques, you know, watching it go into your abdomen, feeling it on your upper lip. There's a lot there's a lot of techniques that been taught over thousands of traditions. But the idea of turning your attention on something that is so natural and innately tied to your survival and innately tied to your kind of corporeal existence anchors your awareness back on what is real and what is here now versus what Susie said, what you know, Bob did at the office and all the things that we run in abstraction all the time in our minds. And so breath work becomes the quickest path to coming home. And you know here we could just do a very simple practice right now. This is a Buddhist practice called 4 count breathing where all you need to do is straighten your spine, close your eyes and inhale for the count of four. One 2 3 4. Hold for the count of two. 1 2 and then exhale to the count of four.

[00:22:33]1 2 3 4 and then hold for the count of two. 1 2 We're back to the inhale. 1 2 3 4 Hold. One 2 Exhale. 1 2 3 4 hold one 2 Now you keep going with this if you like but what I would say to this is that the space between the inb breath and the outreath becomes supremely interesting in the observation of the shift between inhale and exhale and a lot of students immediately get mad at themselves because they botch it or they forget or they you know what what was I doing breathing in and that is an absolutely 100% natural thing that happens when you're meditating the mind wanders it's what it does and so the practice becomes coming back coming back without judging yourself just coming back to breathing and counting counting and breathing and in that you learn to soften your judgment of yourself In that you learn to find an anchor of awareness to bring you back to the present moment. And in that you can be standing in line at the bank, you could be in traffic, you could be doing whatever. Just keep your eyes open and do this kind of breathing and consistently work on watering that field, allowing that part of your consciousness to kind of turn back inward. Check in with yourself. Right now, on a macro level, that is, hey, do I go out for drinks with the guys or do I go to the gym tonight? Do I really need a piece of cheesecake or can I have some peppermint tea and call it a night?

[00:24:36]You know, and it starts to roll into all of the micro decisions that add up and become kind of a summation of what our state of health is. And so, you know, I've gone, you know, I did the monk thing, I did the functional medicine thing. I've, you know, swung the pendulum over the last 30 years and I've really landed on this place where, man, if you don't have mindfulness, it's very hard to have fitness. If you don't have mindfulness, it's very hard to stick with a diet. It's very hard to be consistent with anything because you're if your mind wanders, your life wanders.

[00:25:11]>> That was a powerful practice. I went along with you for that one and it was great. you can you can feel the shift in your physiology as you do that. And I I know for from being this person, but also from having conversations with a lot of people, a lot of people will say, "Oh, well, I just can't get my mind quiet enough," or, "I can't do that, or that's just not me." And I think that mentality for a lot of people is the block that keeps them from accessing all this potential. And what do you say to that person? Because once you get in there and you do it and you feel the effects of it, you'll get the momentum and you'll continue on with it. But the person is usually stuck at that beginning point and they they don't push it just far enough to get over that hurdle. It's a tough one because, you know, and I've come in martial artist, right? Like you're a marine, right? Like I've come in very kind of like heavy-handed and been like just do it, right? And and some people just can't, right? They're they don't have that wiring. they didn't have the parents I had. You know, it's what for whatever reason they they can't turn that corner the way I was able to turn that corner.

[00:26:22]And so the compassionate teacher then learns that, okay, so where are they stuck? And so a lot of times I started being like, well man, I mean, if I ate that cheese burrito for lunch, I wouldn't be able to focus on meditation two hours later either. And then we go into the inflammatory cascades that happen around quesomorphine and you know all the SIGA and their gut and all of the issues that have now created almost like a systemic inflammatory response that's setting off alarm signals in their body. How the hell am I supposed to sit here with my eyes closed and meditate when I have signals going crazy saying it's not safe? Now, that could be a guy breaking into your house, but that could also be trillions of lipopolysaccharides from gram negative bacteria that are coming through a leaky gut. How does your body speak to you? Right? It'll say, "I'm anxious." It'll say, "I'm I'm I'm distracted." And so, I've really been kind of trying to meet people in the middle of physiology meets psychology and mental practices to say, "Look, all of it brings you to the middle. So let's cool the fire. Let's bring your lifestyle back into a place where things are starting to work right and meditation will become easier. And one of the things that really worked for me was I, you know, was a bit of a monkey, right? Like I I had a very active mind. I, you know, I preferred the martial arts than sitting down, right? And moving meditation became my my jam. Tai Chi, Chiang, where you're, you know, you're watching your hands, you're you're doing something still, but you're calming down while you're doing it. I found that that has been an incredible practice for the western mind because we can't do not doing, but we try to do it, right? So, if you still need to do something, then do this practice. And I will saddle your monkey mind with so many things to stay focused on while doing this practice that it'll take your mind off of your worries and your challenges and allow you to kind of enter one of those zen spaces even for a glimpse and then when you sit on the cushion now you have a frame of reference you have something to anchor to so I found that moving meditation taichi those types of practices you know ayenar yoga in particular really are helpful in getting people in their bodies and using their bodies to drive their awareness inwards.

[00:29:00]>> I've noticed a growing interest in the aging population specifically in Taiishi and Chiong. Can you talk about Chiong a little bit because our audience, I know they they've probably heard about this for bone health and maybe they're curious about exploring if it's the right fit for them. Can you talk about what Chiong is? Hey, it's bone coach Kevin Ellis. Thanks so much for tuning in to this episode of the Bone Coach Show. If you're finding it helpful, please leave a positive rating and review. Hit that like button, subscribe to the podcast or the channel. That lets us help more people and reach and serve more people. And it also lets us know that this is helpful to you on your journey to better health and stronger bones. And then also right down in the show notes, you can actually find a link to my free bone healthy recipes guide.

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[00:30:12]So add your name and email right down there in the show notes. Get access to that free Stronger Bones master class and let's get you confident in your Stronger Bones plan today. Yeah. So Tai Chi is a form of martial art that is predicated on Chiong principles, the grand ultimate fist. And so for those of you that are watching, not listening, you know these beautiful kind of flowery moves where it's like it looks so wonderful. This is the guy's chin and this is the back of his head and this is a snap, right? And so it's it's this beautiful flowery stuff, but it's a martial art. Chiang is energy work and chiong is very specifically there's health chiong, there's medical chiong, there's, you know, fighting chiong and then there's kind of monastic, you know, some of the stuff that I did on the dowist side, which is chiong that drives you to meditate deeper. And so there's all sorts of very interesting practices that happen with it. Some of its eyes open, some of its eyes closed. But the basic kind of overarching principle is the coordination of eyes, mind, body, and breath. So I'm breathing consciously with my body movements. My eyes are tracking where I'm telling them to track and I'm moving in a way that's synced up harmoniously with all of that. And so there's a lot of practices where it's like you're looking at your hands, now you're looking at your periphery. And so there's a lot of kind of ancient EMDR, if you will, really powerful eye movement practices built in. And I look, I've had all walks in my workshops and seminars, neurosurgeons, you know, physicists, everything. And you know, everyone's like, "What's this and what's that?" And I'm like, "Look, talk is cheap. Let's just do the practices."

[00:32:00]Couple days into doing the practices, people are like, "Whoa, hell was that?"

[00:32:05]Right? And I'm like, I'm telling you, like it it it shifts your state of being, your consciousness. You go inward and suddenly this sense of peace and ease that exudes from a human, a consciousness that is now back inside the, you know, the framework of its own skull and is looking out through these eyes. It's something to marvel at. It's really powerful stuff. That's what hooked me, right? I was premed at UCLA and, you know, I was like, "Look, I'll give this stuff a chance." And never looked back. It's really amazing stuff.

[00:32:40]>> What are you working on now that you're really passionate about? I I know you've got you've done so many amazing documentaries and films and all this stuff. What's on the horizon?

[00:32:51]So, one of the things that really bothered me as a doctor was people who didn't get better, right? I just, you know, maybe maybe it's my ego, but it was just like I hate not getting results, especially if I am like, look, here's the problem. So, obviously, I hadn't identified the full scope of the problem with a certain subset of patients. And the more I started kind of following that in the questions really became, you know, started to kind of bubble up around saying, "Well, okay, so wait a minute. So you're telling me that these symptoms are worse when you're home, but if you're on vacation, it's better." So then I'm like, "Oh, well, you know, you have a stressful life. You know, when you're on vacation, you're gone." It's like, "Well, I was on a work trip. I was here." Oh, you're you're better when you're not in your house. So what the heck is wrong with your house?

[00:33:39]And so I started really looking at toxic homes and what it was that we were allowing to come into our homes that was damaging my patients health. Whether it was the Italian cologne, whether it was mold behind a wall, whether it was some fancy new, you know, furniture that you got that is outgassing from some nasty factory in China. And you know, the list went on and on. And it became such a big topic that I ended up doing a six-part series on it. that's just coming out now called Homesick Home. All about the the nasty gremlins that we invite into our homes. And if you think about your body, you have your skin, but really your your home is your second skin. And your bedroom in particular is where you need to feel safe so that you can close your eyes and recover at night. So if you have some sheets that are outgassing flame retardant chemicals or some volatile organic compounds and you're huffing paint and your body is saying I don't feel safe but you can't understand that language because we don't speak brain so it forms as anxiety insomnia right I don't know why I couldn't sleep right and so you know I started kind of following all of these things in realizing that if you clean up someone's bedroom in particular their health starts to come back. You clean up their home, their health starts to come back. You clean up the supply chain of the, you know, the fabrics that they're wearing, right? These things leech into your skin. And so, it's hard because we live in an increasingly toxic world, but you could either, you know, say, well, you know, blame blame the bad guys for doing it, and there's a lot of that to be had, but that's not helping you right here, right now. So, what's going to help you right here, right now, is to put the oxygen mask on first, then help the world, right? And so, the series really became about how to empower my patients around looking around the corners, looking in where the the the biggest problem areas would be in one's home and getting that crap out of there. Lo and behold, people start feeling better.

[00:35:54]>> And so, this is this is out now. So, but maybe we can link >> now. You can go to my website, go to homesickhome.com or just signpost it through the urban monk.com. We've been adamant about making these media pieces which costs millions of dollars. And you know, part of my mission as a monk is to keep it all for free. So I've actually just started an all access media pass for all of my media that I've done in the last dozen years and just made it free to the public because that's my mission is to help people. Obviously, you know, the business needs to keep lights on and all that. So we do master classes and places where we support people. But really if I can empower people to make better choices and get healthy, then they start being better neighbors and better citizens and the world gets better, right? And so the faster we can get there, the better for all of us.

[00:36:45]>> I love that. So we'll link to all these resources in the show notes if you want to list them off one more time. We'll make sure everybody knows exactly how to get to those resources.

[00:36:53]>> Sure. Yeah. You can go to the urban monk.com which will signpost you to everything and the series that we just mentioned is called homesickome homesickome.com.

[00:37:02]>> And just a note from me to you or at least for our audience too as I've gotten to known Dr. Pedram he is just a true fantastic health practitioner that genuinely wants to see people improve their health. He's a great family man father and he he genuinely cares about people. So check out the resources that he's listed there. We'll leave them in the show notes below. And he's a great resource to have. So make sure and you've got an Instagram and a couple other things too. Maybe we can point people to to follow, right?

[00:37:32]>> Yeah. Dr. Pedrami Ped RM si with the links. I dabble in the socials. I don't love the attention economy, but it's also where people are lost and looking for help. So >> I get where we got to be. Well, any any last words of wisdom you'd like to share with our audience before we sign off and close this one out?

[00:37:51]>> Yeah, I mean, look, this is health care right here, right? What you're doing is listening to folks talking about how you can keep yourself healthy, right? What someone confers upon you, what someone gives you, whether it's a shot or a needle or a procedure, that's really far downstream healthcare, but that's become the healthcare model. It's why everyone's sick. So, learn how to take care of yourself and you will be truly well.

[00:38:16]>> I love that. Well, for everybody listening, thank you again so much for your time. Again, we're going to link to all the resources in the show notes and we'll see you in the next episode. Hey, it's Bone Coach Kevin Ellis. Hope you found that episode helpful and that you enjoyed it. Just one last reminder, if you haven't done so already, head over to bonecoach.com. Sign up for your free 7-day osteoporosis kickstart. It's going to tell you everything you need to do to start getting on the path to improvement. Hope you found this helpful. I'm your bone coach, Kevin Ellis. I'll see you soon.