This video features a philosophical discussion about animal consciousness and moral consideration, where the host questions whether animals are sentient beings comparable to humans, exploring the ethical implications of how we treat animals versus humans with disabilities, and examining the cognitive dissonance that arises when our stated beliefs conflict with our actions.
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Added:[music] >> Oh my gosh.
Wow.
Okay, here we go. Bottoms up.
>> So, what do you think?
>> Mhm, it's good.
>> Right? And it's And it's so affordable for as much food.
>> I don't know the last time I spent only $12 on a whole meal.
>> I know, I love this place.
>> So, how long have you worked there?
>> Grand Skate? Uh like 2 years.
>> Oh.
Wow, I'm surprised you're not manager.
>> Oh, yeah. Uh they asked me.
>> They asked you?
>> Mhm.
I don't want it.
>> Why?
>> I don't want to do all that. There's so much responsibility.
>> But you make more money.
>> I don't need the money.
I'm trying to focus on photography.
This is just film.
All right, spare time, you know.
>> It's a lot of spare time.
And you could make more money in the time you're already spending here, you know.
>> It's just not I don't I want to clock in and sell something, clock out.
>> I mean, I don't think retail managers like take their work home with them. I was a retail manager for years and I just clocked in and clocked out.
>> The meal tomorrow is what I prefer.
>> So, um photography is going well.
I mean, the doll seems great. Seems really legit.
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah, you shot some big people.
>> Have you ever um like met anyone famous?
>> Uh yeah. Uh I don't really care about that aspect.
[music] You know, for me it's um more about the the >> the lighting?
>> Uh well, that and the the art.
>> Yeah, the art. No, I totally get that.
So so what do you like what do you want to do with photography?
Like where do you want to take it?
>> Uh I don't know. I I've always wanted to get my own studio.
Maybe I'll invent something.
>> Oh.
What what What what do you mean?
>> I don't know. I I've always wanted to create something or design something.
Maybe something the world doesn't have yet.
>> Wow.
I don't even know [clears throat] where I'd start with that.
>> Yeah, that is the problem.
>> These are really good. Do you want to Do you want to switch?
>> Ooh, yes, yes, here.
How do you I have to be >> No. No.
So just to be clear, this is a bit. I'm not really trying to hit on you. I'm not trying to get your number.
>> Wow.
Pretty good with that, huh?
You've been doing this a while.
>> Yeah, I know. I mean, I've been working with them for a while now, but >> Makes sense.
>> You should have seen what it was like before. I I don't think they had microphones. [laughter] Oh, then I went ex got HIVs cuz he was trying to get back with me, so >> Ah, and we're all doing what we have to do, huh?
>> Is that relationship advice?
I've been following you for a while now.
>> Really?
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, that's cool.
So my message resonated?
>> Yeah. No, I mean, yeah, I feel like there's so much of your content where I'm like, "Oh my god, why didn't I think of that?"
>> Yeah, well, men and women are very different. Almost as different as we are the same.
>> Hey guys, let's save it for the podcast.
>> so here's how it's going to work. So, I'm going to have a camera on each of you, so you'll be seen at all times, and then I'm going to roll sound, and then I'll let you know when I'm rolling camera, and just yeah, you know, um do your thing, obviously. Let me know if you need anything, like um water, vodka.
>> Don't tempt me.
>> We have a full bar.
>> Really? You You can go get me a vodka and ice?
>> Vodka and ice.
>> Sure.
>> Oh, maybe you get yourself one.
>> [laughter] >> Okay.
Why not?
I'll have a So, Rainier, like the mountain?
>> Rainier.
>> Like Ryan mixed with the mountain.
>> My mom's from Seattle.
>> It's a good thing her favorite mountain wasn't St. Helen.
>> What is that? You warming up? Getting the flirting going?
>> Don't Don't call me out, man.
>> So, uh what are your favorite mountains?
>> This is going to be great. Welcome to the Dana of the World podcast. Today we are playing the try not to flirt game, except now I have the buzzer. Dana's going to be trying not to flirt, and if she does, she has to drink. And today we have the ultimate guest to test her limits. Please welcome to the show relationship guru, coach, bestselling >> Rainier.
Rainier Gunther.
>> Rainier Gunther.
>> Rainier Gunther.
>> Thanks for having me.
>> So, I saw your post recently. You were grocery shopping.
Is that your usual content?
>> No, but I like to show a nice mix of relationship and lifestyle. People like to see what's on the other side.
>> Of >> of the screen?
>> Right.
>> Right.
>> Yeah. You didn't have a lot of items in the cart, just a few items. Do you Do you normally buy just five five or so things at a time when you grocery shop?
>> Well, I do like to go often to keep everything fresh.
>> Makes sense. And it was all fruit. I think you skipped a few aisles.
>> Well, I'm vegan.
>> Oh.
Oh, that makes sense.
>> You have a problem with veganism?
>> Well, when you say it like that. No, I'm just kidding. Now, I'll take the fruit.
Take it all. I I don't want it.
>> [laughter] >> Actually, I'd love to have this debate with you because I checked out your Instagram profile and at the top it said the way to my heart was through animal videos.
>> Wow.
You really do your research.
>> You sure you want to continue to have this conversation?
Not everyone's ready to have their cognitive dissonance challenged randomly.
Could be a difficult process and painful.
>> it's not very random. This is a podcast.
That's what we do here.
>> I did just ask you the question.
>> Right. So, do you believe that animals are conscious sentient beings like you, me, or your dog?
>> My dog My dog's dead, so no.
>> Okay. Well, when you did have a dog, did you believe he was of the same level of worth as you?
>> Honestly, no.
>> I mean, I think you know, when you talk about killing a dog versus killing a human, it shouldn't be the same penalty.
>> True, and they can't talk. And they're not as intelligent as us.
>> So, then a person with disabilities who doesn't have the ability to talk and might not be of the same intellectual ability that you are, you would put them in that category?
>> Yeah, so I wouldn't compare humans with animals cuz, you know, they're my species, so whatever their abilities, I probably wouldn't want to eat them.
>> I dated a vegan once. She was more of the to each their own type.
>> you were going to say that she didn't wear deodorant and that was a deal breaker.
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah, aluminum thing.
>> I really need the aluminum.
That's how bad it is.
>> Yeah, no, there's actually a lot of studies showing the dangers of aluminum accumulation in the body.
Particularly in breast tissue.
>> I actually heard all that wasn't really true.
>> Well, the right man's going to love your natural scent.
>> Yeah, I mean, I probably didn't like her natural scent, or whatever that organic [ __ ] was she was wearing.
>> And what is that that you're wearing?
>> Oh, me? You can smell that?
>> He's talking to the producer.
>> Smells to me like it's uh a nectarine?
>> Nectarine?
>> Um well, it it it's citrus.
>> Can you smell nectarine?
>> No.
>> [music] >> Yeah.
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