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Added: Is the sequel to the infamous rise of red actually good? Well… Is the sequel to the infamous rise of red actually good? Well… Wicked Wonderland is the 5th film in the overall descendants franchise and the second film of Wicked Wonderland is the 5th film in the overall descendants franchise and the second film of generation 2 of descendants. I already discussed the previous movies in this franchise so i generation 2 of descendants. I already discussed the previous movies in this franchise so i obviously have to talk about this, especially since i had to watch it 3 times due to some obviously have to talk about this, especially since i had to watch it 3 times due to some technical difficulties, so today i wanted to talk about Descendants Wicked Wonderland and discuss technical difficulties, so today i wanted to talk about Descendants Wicked Wonderland and discuss the plot, songs and the film’s overall quality. So let's dive in! the plot, songs and the film’s overall quality. So let's dive in! Red and Chloe discover that changing the past has created a new threat… Red and Chloe discover that changing the past has created a new threat… Maddox Hatter, leading them to join forces with new allies to rescue the Maddox Hatter, leading them to join forces with new allies to rescue the Queen of Hearts and save Wonderland. This was actually not that bad. Queen of Hearts and save Wonderland. This was actually not that bad. Wicked wonderland definitely wasn't perfect but it was definitely better than the rise of Wicked wonderland definitely wasn't perfect but it was definitely better than the rise of red. At least this movie actually feels like a fully completed movie this time, red. At least this movie actually feels like a fully completed movie this time, which was my biggest issue with the rise of red previously. I also really liked the concept of which was my biggest issue with the rise of red previously. I also really liked the concept of maddox hatter being the villain and I think it makes a lot of sense with the story. But maddox hatter being the villain and I think it makes a lot of sense with the story. But the existence of max makes me really confused on a lot of things. Max says in the film that the existence of max makes me really confused on a lot of things. Max says in the film that maddox was in highschool when he saw red and chloe time travel in rise of red, but he wasn't? He was maddox was in highschool when he saw red and chloe time travel in rise of red, but he wasn't? He was the queen’s advisor and was an adult I'm pretty sure? I initially thought the existence of Max was the queen’s advisor and was an adult I'm pretty sure? I initially thought the existence of Max was just a consequence of Red and Chloe changing the past, but even when Max sees the truth, just a consequence of Red and Chloe changing the past, but even when Max sees the truth, it shows that he EXISTED in that reality? Which makes no sense because how was red not aware of it shows that he EXISTED in that reality? Which makes no sense because how was red not aware of max like at all? That's the son of her BESTIE. Also they’re around the same age or close enough max like at all? That's the son of her BESTIE. Also they’re around the same age or close enough in age to be in the same school together, so that's confusing. Also they saw that the queen in age to be in the same school together, so that's confusing. Also they saw that the queen of hearts banished Maddox to the isle of the lost, however if you watch the 3rd descendants of hearts banished Maddox to the isle of the lost, however if you watch the 3rd descendants movie in the original trilogy, it's clear that the barrier was TAKEN DOWN. That's literally the movie in the original trilogy, it's clear that the barrier was TAKEN DOWN. That's literally the purpose of the song “Break this down”. So in this reality does this mean the barrier of the purpose of the song “Break this down”. So in this reality does this mean the barrier of the isle is back up? If so, why are vk’s here? If not, then what was the point in sending isle is back up? If so, why are vk’s here? If not, then what was the point in sending maddox to the isle? She could have just sent him to like a dungeon or something. maddox to the isle? She could have just sent him to like a dungeon or something. I really loved pink as a character but I'm biased because pink is my favorite color, I really loved pink as a character but I'm biased because pink is my favorite color, so I really loved her personality and outfits, but I have to be honest, so I really loved her personality and outfits, but I have to be honest, her character wasn’t really well written. I feel like I might get hated on for this her character wasn’t really well written. I feel like I might get hated on for this but I really think her relationship with red was rushed and made no sense. And I but I really think her relationship with red was rushed and made no sense. And I think it takes screen time away from the more important relationship, red and chloe. Pink think it takes screen time away from the more important relationship, red and chloe. Pink starts off super happy and then randomly when Chloe is feeling betrayed starts expressing starts off super happy and then randomly when Chloe is feeling betrayed starts expressing her sadness with just being known for being sweet? Then confronts red for ignoring her, her sadness with just being known for being sweet? Then confronts red for ignoring her, but we literally never see pink get visibly upset that red isn't connecting with her. I think pink but we literally never see pink get visibly upset that red isn't connecting with her. I think pink feeling neglected by red makes actually a lot of sense because red doesn't know pink, feeling neglected by red makes actually a lot of sense because red doesn't know pink, she didn't grow up with her at all. But at no point is Red… like rude to Pink? Maybe I'm missing she didn't grow up with her at all. But at no point is Red… like rude to Pink? Maybe I'm missing something? But i literally watched this movie 3 times so i doubt it. But because her anger at something? But i literally watched this movie 3 times so i doubt it. But because her anger at Red just comes out of nowhere with no build up, when Red finds their childhood time capsule and Red just comes out of nowhere with no build up, when Red finds their childhood time capsule and suddenly gains all these memories and is super happy to have Pink as her sister it just feels suddenly gains all these memories and is super happy to have Pink as her sister it just feels jarring and lazy. Why does she suddenly remember Pink as her sister? It just feels rushed. And I jarring and lazy. Why does she suddenly remember Pink as her sister? It just feels rushed. And I wasn't convinced of their sisterhood. I feel like it should’ve been built up more, or they should’ve wasn't convinced of their sisterhood. I feel like it should’ve been built up more, or they should’ve never given their relationship any friction at all and have her as a comic relief. But never given their relationship any friction at all and have her as a comic relief. But because of this I feel like it took time away from Chloe and Red’s relationship. As we were watching, because of this I feel like it took time away from Chloe and Red’s relationship. As we were watching, I remember my sister telling me that Chloe seemed way too upset at Red, and I do kind of agree. I I remember my sister telling me that Chloe seemed way too upset at Red, and I do kind of agree. I think because Red had literally no character development in rise of red that it makes sense think because Red had literally no character development in rise of red that it makes sense that she would still be rude and inconsiderate to people, even people she cares about. I think that she would still be rude and inconsiderate to people, even people she cares about. I think if there were multiple moments in the movie where Red unintentionally disrespect Chloe, I feel like if there were multiple moments in the movie where Red unintentionally disrespect Chloe, I feel like Chloe's rage would've been more justified. Like i said i watched the movie 3 times and i seriously Chloe's rage would've been more justified. Like i said i watched the movie 3 times and i seriously tried to figure out how many times red betrayed chloe, but i can only think of 2 notable events, tried to figure out how many times red betrayed chloe, but i can only think of 2 notable events, when she didn't listen to Chloe's idea to rewire the Dodo bird and the IRL chess game when she when she didn't listen to Chloe's idea to rewire the Dodo bird and the IRL chess game when she didn't listen to her idea to play regular chess and used her as bait for the flower. I feel like didn't listen to her idea to play regular chess and used her as bait for the flower. I feel like there should've been more upsetting moments to be honest. I really like the idea of Chloe becoming there should've been more upsetting moments to be honest. I really like the idea of Chloe becoming evil, but it felt a bit underwhelming, I think they could have done better to be honest. I also evil, but it felt a bit underwhelming, I think they could have done better to be honest. I also feel like red should've been more cruel, similar to how she was in rise of red as it would've made feel like red should've been more cruel, similar to how she was in rise of red as it would've made her character growth stronger. I feel like because she was too kind, everyone's reactions to her felt her character growth stronger. I feel like because she was too kind, everyone's reactions to her felt a bit much to be honest. And this is coming from someone who is not really a fan of red. I also a bit much to be honest. And this is coming from someone who is not really a fan of red. I also didn't care too much about the romance of red and luis as i don't think it really changed any didn't care too much about the romance of red and luis as i don't think it really changed any of their characters. It's kinda just there to be honest. I think romance lovers will eat it of their characters. It's kinda just there to be honest. I think romance lovers will eat it up because it's typical cheesy romance, but if you aren't a fan of romance their relationship up because it's typical cheesy romance, but if you aren't a fan of romance their relationship honestly feels like a bit of a waste of time as it really doesn't progress any plot, and honestly feels like a bit of a waste of time as it really doesn't progress any plot, and considering the okay quality of the movie, i think it would've been increased if they focus more on considering the okay quality of the movie, i think it would've been increased if they focus more on red’s character and her relationship with chloe and i guess pink as well. I even think more scenes red’s character and her relationship with chloe and i guess pink as well. I even think more scenes with max would've been great too as he apparently was always there regardless of timeline. with max would've been great too as he apparently was always there regardless of timeline. Also slightly off topic but did the chess game remind any ever after high fans of spring unsprung Also slightly off topic but did the chess game remind any ever after high fans of spring unsprung and way too wonderland? That's instantly what I thought of the moment that scene came up. and way too wonderland? That's instantly what I thought of the moment that scene came up. The songs in this movie were: "Perfect Princess", “Mad”, "Did The songs in this movie were: "Perfect Princess", “Mad”, "Did You Hear About Them", “Dancing With The Enemy", “For Once in My Life", “The Girl I Used to Be", You Hear About Them", “Dancing With The Enemy", “For Once in My Life", “The Girl I Used to Be", “Heartless", “Who I Am", and “Go Live It". I honestly really enjoyed most of the songs, “Heartless", “Who I Am", and “Go Live It". I honestly really enjoyed most of the songs, but my sister didn't seem to like them much at all. I remember her saying that these but my sister didn't seem to like them much at all. I remember her saying that these songs sounded like movie songs and the songs in the original trilogy sounded like real songs, songs sounded like movie songs and the songs in the original trilogy sounded like real songs, and i honestly disagree, while i do think the songs in the original trilogy were really good and i honestly disagree, while i do think the songs in the original trilogy were really good and some of them sounded like real songs, i think a lot of them have this musical or broadway vibe, and some of them sounded like real songs, i think a lot of them have this musical or broadway vibe, and that the songs in this current descendants trilogy sounded more overproduced if anything. and that the songs in this current descendants trilogy sounded more overproduced if anything. But I still liked a lot of them. I will say that “The Girl I Used to Be” really reminded me of But I still liked a lot of them. I will say that “The Girl I Used to Be” really reminded me of “Space Between” from descendants 2, and i think we really need a Space Between-esq song during “Space Between” from descendants 2, and i think we really need a Space Between-esq song during that moment when chloe turns evil, because the song they sang, i'm not sure what it was called, that moment when chloe turns evil, because the song they sang, i'm not sure what it was called, i think “figure it out”, but that song was not only not good, but just very much out of place, i think “figure it out”, but that song was not only not good, but just very much out of place, i feel like that moment would've been perfect for a call back moment, either at some point in the i feel like that moment would've been perfect for a call back moment, either at some point in the movie there should've been a song between chloe and red celebrating their friendship, so that when movie there should've been a song between chloe and red celebrating their friendship, so that when this moment comes, they could have done a reprise so that Chloe's detransformation makes a lot more this moment comes, they could have done a reprise so that Chloe's detransformation makes a lot more sense and we can actually feel their bond. Because truth be told Chloe and red’s sense and we can actually feel their bond. Because truth be told Chloe and red’s relationship feels much weaker than mal and evie’s when it could have been extremely strong. relationship feels much weaker than mal and evie’s when it could have been extremely strong. Honestly I do believe that it's better than rise of red, but not better than descendants 1??? Honestly I do believe that it's better than rise of red, but not better than descendants 1??? I'm sorry but seeing that letterboxd rating was a jumpscare, I genuinely don't think this movie is I'm sorry but seeing that letterboxd rating was a jumpscare, I genuinely don't think this movie is that good, if good at all. I think it's honestly okay, it's similar in quality to descendants 3, that good, if good at all. I think it's honestly okay, it's similar in quality to descendants 3, but even then I personally think it's weaker. At least descendants 3 had a stronger emotional but even then I personally think it's weaker. At least descendants 3 had a stronger emotional arc and audery was a much stronger and much more interesting villain than Chloe and Max, arc and audery was a much stronger and much more interesting villain than Chloe and Max, which isn't exactly a high bar to reach. It's still a mess for sure but a mess that I think which isn't exactly a high bar to reach. It's still a mess for sure but a mess that I think people can still tolerate. It's entertaining but the plot is all over the place and there's people can still tolerate. It's entertaining but the plot is all over the place and there's way too many characters, a ton of underdeveloped storylines and a ton of important characters with way too many characters, a ton of underdeveloped storylines and a ton of important characters with a lot of potential but very weak character arcs. It's very much Messy-tainment, but I do think the a lot of potential but very weak character arcs. It's very much Messy-tainment, but I do think the movie is in the middle, perfectly in the middle. I wouldn't say it's a bad movie like Rise of Red, movie is in the middle, perfectly in the middle. I wouldn't say it's a bad movie like Rise of Red, but i wouldnt say it's a good movie like Descendants 1. This honestly does give me a lot of but i wouldnt say it's a good movie like Descendants 1. This honestly does give me a lot of hope for future films as it's clear that they can improve and get better and I hope this next movie, hope for future films as it's clear that they can improve and get better and I hope this next movie, which will probably be out in 2028, is better than this film. I'm not sure what they will which will probably be out in 2028, is better than this film. I'm not sure what they will try to do for the future films, but i hope we can see an evil red at some point, but honestly try to do for the future films, but i hope we can see an evil red at some point, but honestly i wished they undid everything and tried to talk to the moms, i know thats extreme but i'm curious i wished they undid everything and tried to talk to the moms, i know thats extreme but i'm curious to see how that would play out, i feel like i desperately need a big battle moment, because to see how that would play out, i feel like i desperately need a big battle moment, because we haven't really gotten anything like that yet, and we had a moment like that in descendants one, we haven't really gotten anything like that yet, and we had a moment like that in descendants one, two and three, but this new generation doesn't seem to really have moments like that at all. two and three, but this new generation doesn't seem to really have moments like that at all. But I'm curious what do you wish for in future films for this new generation of descendants? But I'm curious what do you wish for in future films for this new generation of descendants? I hope you enjoyed that, please let me know what other aspects of Girly media that you I hope you enjoyed that, please let me know what other aspects of Girly media that you want to talk about next. Um, also, if you'd like to support the physical production of So Diva, want to talk about next. Um, also, if you'd like to support the physical production of So Diva, please visit our Kofi link in the description. And if you'd like to support me individually, please visit our Kofi link in the description. And if you'd like to support me individually, you can become a channel member. Honestly, my favorite Rise of Red character I would say is you can become a channel member. Honestly, my favorite Rise of Red character I would say is um Pink so far. Um maybe Chloe. I don't really think I have a favorite to be honest because um Pink so far. Um maybe Chloe. I don't really think I have a favorite to be honest because none of the characters in my opinion are particularly well written enough none of the characters in my opinion are particularly well written enough for me to actually latch on to anybody. Um they're all they're all written very poorly, for me to actually latch on to anybody. Um they're all they're all written very poorly, but they have a lot of potential at the same time. It's very weird. but they have a lot of potential at the same time. It's very weird.
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