This production masterfully bridges the gap between harrowing personal testimony and clinical reality, reframing addiction as a biological crisis rather than a moral failing. It is a necessary, unsentimental look at the arduous process of reclaiming one's agency from the grip of neurochemical hijacking.
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All these scars when you see now side effects of the drugs they inject myself with my body start to decay. I struggle with addiction for like I think 7 8 years. There was a time e >> Jesus >> this my hand my bones were showing. So literally you can see say no no no flesh no day here all this place flesh no just the bone. So my my my hand actually decent my bones were showing even at that it was killing me but I not stop when I don't consider to inject for hand again I go leg >> Jesus >> same with this other one and I was kidding see I didn't know what it meant to feel normal without the drug for years to be honest with you as I'm talking to you now I'm partially disabled >> but my body that I love so much they destroy the decay that I was a living zombie if not before not able to leave the same room with me cuz I was smelling like a cops like a decaying cops.
I wake up every morning and the first companion I have are maggots coming out of my own body.
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So, welcome back guys. Um, I'll let my guest introduce himself and going to the topic. So, welcome, welcome, Ross.
Welcome to Talk Point Studios.
>> It's nice to be here.
>> Yeah. Thank you so much. So, you said we are going to talk about drug addiction.
We have Let's hear what you have to say.
>> Okay. Uh, my name is Ibraham Okoduha.
I'm a graduate of geology from University Pot.
>> Okay.
>> Um, I grew up in Potacot literally, but I'm from Edo state. I actually first experimented with drugs when I was in university and um you know usual cuz I had a traumatic childhood growing up.
>> You understand? So growing up I was more like a god-fearing kind of person. I was a child evangelist and or but I had a traumatic experience that made me to doubt if God existed. You get? So uh at that point in time I left all the doctrines I knew. I was still going to church but it was more like you know me say pastor any pastor preach you as you already know >> so I was just going to church for officiality but >> um when I gained admission I was in pursuit of sense of belonging >> understand >> I needed cuz growing up I was more of within the religious circle but now that was almost all I knew >> but now that's that was something different and university is a different environment where people get to explore without supervision That's supervision and because of the insecurity we carry from our individual environments into the higher institution in when you did secondary school now from secondary school teachers classmates to the house understand. So your environment is controlled. That's what you're exposed to in life. And you believe maybe as you grow up they make you think saying you are the most intelligent person in the world. But when you enter university it's a different ball game because you get to meet people with different sense of confidence, different background. If you say smart you see like 10 times then all of a sudden your confidence become inferiority. You get so that was actually what transpired with me. I lost my sense of focus. So I rode with some group of guys who experimented with normal codin renol weed and all that.
But I didn't really get addicted to those ones.
>> Okay.
>> Um I I think the reason why I didn't get addicted to those ones was because it was not because of something I willingly enjoyed. It was more because one thing people don't understand is it's not all highness you enjoy.
>> Okay.
Because different drugs give different kind of feeling.
>> Different kind of feeling.
>> There are some drugs you take it makes you hyperactive.
There are some drugs you take it slows you down. There are some drugs you take it makes you excited.
>> So the the chemistry of each drug determine the part of the brain >> understand that it reacts and responds to.
>> Yeah. That's why some people will take you see sluggish. Why some people we take I'll not mention the name of the drug. Some people take some certain kind of drug. I see them they everywhere they hyper they can work for like >> sorry there's one that's very rampant now I want they'll be blowing balloon I don't know which one >> laughing so what's the reaction of that one is it >> no that one that one is still excitement >> okay >> understand it's still excitement >> that raises like dopamine >> yes where you're getting you just get excited overnight you're just laughing and laughing everything is funny and all so that's that word that's the effect of that word so you makes people unnecessarily excited. They find everything humorous and funny. On a normal day, your brain will not interpret that to be funny.
>> But because that chemical is not tampering with that side of your brain, every image, every information is being interpreted as funny.
>> You get as funny. So that is where it lies. And the danger most times of those things is as interfering with your brain is also interfering the structure of your imagination.
>> What that means is sometimes say they make person see things you go to hallucinate >> hallucinate. Okay >> understand they see things no there >> why your mind don't create your own picture.
>> So if for example the normal day I don't consider you like someone that pick their nose I don't consider it funny. I have created that in my mind. My nervous system have accepted it. So whenever I see guy come hand for close to your nose now I thought I like you carry your own.
You get that kind of a thing. But >> when you take that substance what happens as he's doing it sometime supposed to irritate you. You find it funny.
>> It shows something is wrong somewhere.
>> And if your brain begins you you begin to feed your brain with that same information. It begins to counter the previous information. previous use computer word the previous coding on your brain already get >> now make say some people don't say ah this something they irritate this person >> you get because what you find irritating is what someone else find convenience >> find convenience yeah >> you might be a very neat person where you can't stand who stand being in your room understand meanwhile another person or more when you see cro push for this thing kill roommates understand >> that's because what we are both human beings but what we have fed our minds is different so when you take those laughing and all that that's now >> so apparently h taking drug is like you are trying to put yourself in another person's reality like I don't know >> no I won't really I won't really say that >> so you are trying to make your And like you're trying to create an imagination of someone's reality.
>> You're not the one creating it.
>> No, most people that take substances don't take it with the aim to create.
Funny enough, nobody in short most people don't become an addict with hope of becoming an addict. Talk true. How many people when you know when say don't come say I be a junk you reason. I don't know say I be a drug addict too.
>> I saw I saw a post today on it's one of my friend like that we are business partner. He posted something on on his WhatsApp stat story. He said if they if they tell me say I will later they smoke I for not believe. So he just tweeted that and so you know so most times most times addiction is not something people plan.
>> It's a trap people fall into.
M >> it all starts with make a one step make a triumph for example my own case now one >> and I enjoyed the feeling so sometimes it's curiosity >> curiosity >> understand how does it feel I see this guy just there on cruise I know how this feels >> and you and funny enough they be like guy people they take that get that No wor they discipline the mind they not making me I know myself not if he hook me if I say I want stop him now I go stop him but the interesting truth about addiction is you never know that you have gotten addicted until you try to stop >> while you take him as now you control this >> now until when you try to stop now you go know you never imagine why young guys early m five six they see them with their saggy Trust that they don't go look for dealer.
>> Yeah.
>> Never wake up. They don't go wait for dealer. Any mama, >> they don't go wait for dealer. That's not something a normal person would do.
>> Actually understand to a drug addict. A dealer. A dealer is more important than God.
>> On a normal day person see you for supposed to call you brother. Brer understand they see you even like now you go caller. Russell that's what I did cuz nobody plans on being an addict start from one one to two 2 to 3 to 4 before you know morning afternoon evening you wake up in the morning the first thing you think come up now to restore that euphoria for those of us that don't understand what euphoria actually means euphoria is the feeling that highness you get when you take substance when you take drugs that's what called euphoria so most times when and also because these are the two words I might be using quite often Okay, understand craving.
Craving is that hunger you get that um when you want to take it like the hungry.
>> That was what I was about to say. So I was about to say is it just um is it just that I want to be in that mood or it's just like you hungry like maybe >> no craving craving you know just craving they get level yes you know craving no drop because it taste the first time the craving come.
No craving a constant or in a product of constant use and your mind being dependent on the substance >> your prefrontal cortex um that's the front side of your brain understand now they in charge of memory and decision making you get meaning before that time >> your body they release dopamine based as a reward system >> okay >> in case those of you don't know what dopamine Dopamine are like um now reward system of the brain whereby if you achieve something that yeah that your I say the happy peel >> of the brain understand if maybe you meet one your crush finally tell you yes that that's excitement you get when you achieve something you get so release that dopamine want to give you that excitement now when you take these opioids or these drugs understand in they trigger your dopamine that production Your brain will come flooded be that highness when you talk your brain say your brain your natural dopamine production for your brain your senses they only accept most say 1%.
>> Okay >> you come go take substance that substance now will come boost that 1% to like 75%.
Your brain not used to 75%.
Your brain they used to 1%. So that first time when you take you feel that 75%. It's a feeling your brain is not used to.
That is where you get that drowsiness and then make some say on the first and they run mad >> happened yet they stressed their brain >> brain beyond normal capacity to so the brain is now responding everything is just clashing into each other then be that response when you get when they say your brain no stronger >> so so the the normally the drugs the drug addict now it means they don't stress they stress their brain to to a point say they can now um will I say they are now comfortable their brain is now used to stretching to that limit.
Let me put it that way.
>> Um make I make I actually analyze the science behind addiction.
>> Okay.
>> Not be everybody when they use drug be addict.
>> Understand?
>> Not be everybody when they use drug be addict. Now see the process of grow into addiction. You see you get first time users either out of peer pressure, curiosity understand depression. The funny thing say addiction get so many road >> but now one destination >> understand so be like your excuse for starting be heartbreak that's how you break fast and you just want jaw understand you couldn't just stand that pain understand good if it be curiosity just want test they feel >> if it be appear influence guy you know be man you be small test understand based on feel like >> you know Nigeria be say if you need to watch football you don't be man if you need a drink alcohol as a guy you don't be man as if society don't place waiting be the yat stick and the standard to to actually qualify your masculinity >> you get when we be small back then I know say my generation your generation different when we small back then person when they smoke I just say plant they smoke I they see very irresponsible way, good for nothing, society outcasted person.
>> Understand?
>> The person they become like society outcast. But it's so funny how the society outcast now becomes the trend.
>> How how you migrate from that to this >> and and I don't feel it's getting worse.
Now see where see where the issue Dave on my own personal opinion on that is that um the person that was the society outcast owned up to what he was doing and actually walked with confidence to what he was doing before you know you when claim say you know be society outcast when normal lack confidence in what you think you know >> understand about him most times A parent will raise their child where to be responsible to be god-fearing and the child believes okay to be honest most of the damage that happens to a child in university usually happen within semester 1 2 >> of year one then year two now like semester one >> okay >> understand so that means your first three semester is what determine the amount of damage you receive if you're able to escape this first three phase in the easier for you to keep yourself.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> So how many children when you know when come up for their papa house enter university when come out from university the same way? Very few.
What happened in that in between that three process you came like what I tell you for the beginning when you come out from an a controlled environment from secondary school you enter university competitions day and all that. Now you see some people come they flaunt big man. me why for us there no be anything.
Why they try to create an image to feel superior.
>> Now you coming from a well brought up background they tell you say you have to keep most use girls for example now say you have to keep yourself don't allow man touch you focus on your studies concentrate on God to fellowship and all. Now what they tell you now and the reason then the excuse when they give you I know say reason the excuse when they giving I be say that's how your life will be good and you become successful and you now believe that the only way to be successful I understand and prosper now for you to be good >> you come you come university come say in level of being responsible not reach 0.00% 00%.
Understand? No rich minus one.
>> Okay.
>> But yet the person successful >> in the quote successful in the understand you they form virgin they form responsible serious student.
Meanwhile the be >> understand meanwhile your roommates or person with you don't go visit him boyfriend come back with provision come back with new phone.
And meanwhile your phone touch light when they use rubber band >> and your parents they tell you contentment contentment even if you want contentment there's a way that society pressures you before you know that your roommate don't they look you less even though you smart person >> intelligent person >> understand at first things have the world things of the world but over time the pressure will get worse >> so leave that side apart I just they give you instances how these things work. Now for addiction area start in the function no matter the angle no matter how you start the journey understand that one be the beginning which is experimentation curiosity first start first time user now think that they call for drug word first time user understand now see the analysis I go use they don't drink alcohol before when I drank alcohol I think I was like I was like eight small stouts that you know that almost. So just my dad was always taking so just like put no forget to papa fa start. So, so that although my dad later stopped taking so that was the first and it was bitter you know like children so I never understand that highness part of it then the other alcohol like took was >> he brought away with palen fermented palen I took that one at around 8 10 years so I never really even be understand what is behind >> I will come back to these things so you know why I come back to these things because a time say a gas explain to you >> how the role of environment understand and parents in they play a role into addiction.
>> Okay.
>> So imagine say that start when you take understand now we your father be the smoke.
>> M yeah. So imagine at young age don't you go don't already be exposed >> exposed but the thing is most of these people they take most of these parents when they take drugs like they smoke they always used to telling their children not take not try >> I be no when you grow let us be honest honest when you grow which one enter your head the most your pap show you no what he do >> which is the show you >> understand so people See children learn see forget about this tactics of don't do what I do do what I say >> it's actually yeah >> children actually do what you do know what you say >> action over what >> they because now you be their first god now be their first mentor be their first role model and not forget say the eyes get more power than the ear >> you can easily forget what you hear but you can hardly forget what you see >> sh I can still remember some pictures from my childhood I don't know if you remember the words of that scenario I remember how it played out why a picture have been captured even the thing where you they hear your mind they create a picture to interpret them >> for example if I mention elephant now what you first do >> the picture of elephant don't >> now if I mention elephant and you don't know anything like elephant ever exist your picture your mind will try to interpret de from the point now see the thing um from that testing your body your mind don't be exposed to a substance say before you know exposed to and don't forget naturally the brain is always after pleasure >> now make if your body start to if there's any defection for your body system what do you feel discomfort and pain >> and at that point in time you won't do everything to stop that discomfort why because your brain they used to comfort and pleasure Draw understand they used to comfort why they say sleep they sweet >> bro they don't wake up when sleep before this >> understand so when they talk say you they sleep what they actually happen your brain >> you get me so your brain does not like discomfort that's why anything that will stress you don't grow muscles by being comfortable what happens when you're working out in fitness they will tell you that um mind over matter.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Meaning that it is not your body that is weak, it's your mind. So your mind is used to you being relaxed, being comfortable. Right? Now you need to stretch your mind to be uncomfortable until it become uncomfortable.
>> That's why they say no pain, no gain, >> no gain.
>> So gain comes with pain.
>> But funny enough, the same I use when I inject myself with drugs without >> But still now outside after after you don't take and finish your brain exposed to RA. Oh say oh something like this let be that elephant know before now you don't know >> oh this thing sweet make we assume say heartbreak make you take your first substance make assume say now depression but funny enough in this life you always get disappointed your hearts always get broken >> understand so because before that time you were coping with disappointment without any substance and your brain was still okay but now you don't go introduce Use another expo give your brain say this kind.
So the next time when be say you get depressed what you say your brain go wonder suggest >> suggest >> understand suggest say ah guy mo again that felt good again that felt good remind >> so what ask now say I don't ask the question before but you not get now so your brain don't suggest okay let's go we go again we go try so that is one thing that make push people to go and do drugs how about if if I appe I get happy moment. For example, if you see most of this young boys, he collect smoke because you happy. Do you understand? So what what cop the difference or where the balance there between that your brain interpreting say let's be comfortable and the hunger which is more like you hungry for food now you hungry for food they come there okay >> I was actually getting there explain the process more small and also for a yahoo guy to pick feel excited come feel say waiting actually want smoke for because in brain don't interpret the smoking as pleasure Why no reason say oh I don't pick I don't pick make I use needle they choke myself because in brain no interpret that as pleasure that's on another uh topic entirely you understand but you guys understand same now what you interpret give your brain now your brain go pick >> you get me >> you like this person day more guy I be pass me one blunt I beg I just relax now just chill Why now just take something I chill?
Why? You already convince your mind say that thing make you chill.
You get now all those ones know me say addiction yet. All those ones not usage.
Now you say okay >> understand your reason they justifiable >> your reason okay >> but after before you know >> you don't think I'm constant and the more you take constant the more your brain chemistry they change now your dopamine sensors now come day weak no forget dopamine be the reward system >> so meaning before if what you take saying this one that one cup not going to give you that feeling again >> you know why your brain naturally they expand the elastic so now in that area just to accommodate that amount so meaning now you're not going to feel that highness again because it's no longer unusual to the brain >> the brain now don't master to accommodate >> the new initial so that first original dopamine now that when he push now be the normal the reason why he feel that highness that first time now because no be the normal normal >> but now the brain now don't accommodate don't strong himself to accommodate them as normal >> so what they try talk now be say there is nobody that will take drug and be like okay I just take one [ __ ] or one what they call back whatever and remain taking that one back you must always increase >> okay I don't know about that but one thing I know for sure will be same know When you continue to take that particular dosage >> consistently for a period of time when you say you get the exact feeling.
>> So it all depends whether you want yourself control.
>> Exactly. But since you make you take that thing in the first place that feeling be >> good. So if that particular see because now the trap the day if that particular dosage they take before to give you that feeling no come give you that feeling again what you want you go control that same feeling and what you do now to increase the dosage >> most people start to drink alcohol make ask you that time if you don't drink alcohol before most people start to drink alcohol start with one bottle >> the man today when they brag say oh I feel down two crates I feel down three crates and oh shake >> understand you know start with one crate You know you understand start with three crates possibly now just start >> from one cup in body used to accommodating the one cup increase to one bottle from one bottle to two bottle two bottle to three bottle. So if you instead of it to brag say if you finish three crates oh b if you finish three crate nothing they do you you are gone.
No the simple truth it means you have overstressed your brain to accommodate such level of alcohol. So not be something to brag about.
>> It's not strength.
>> Strength. It's actually that person when test more alcohol into the Jones and you that person they more okay they more normal than you when they grew up everything and >> let's say more stronger because I relate this thing to like mileage for cars. You understand? A car of zero mileage is more stronger than a car of let's say 120,000 mileage. So person mileage >> mileage is like the kilometer where the car don't run >> that's mileage. So you just just like how old okay make I use human being picking of 12 years >> will naturally strongass man of 80 years. So that's the idea behind me take >> more functional >> it's actually more weaker than person never take any way they take >> understand so most times but the boat start from there >> you get now as don't take take before they pursue that highness I guess the the best phrase to use will be in pursuit of happiness your mind is always in short think about it. Almost everything you do in this life is in pursuit of happiness.
>> Pursuit of happiness.
You get waiting that fulfillment wants to give you be happiness.
>> UNDERSTAND? SO AND DRUGS like actually provide like alternative route >> to be better.
>> Yes. To to a temporary feeling or glimpse of happiness.
And most when people taste that glimpse of happiness, they want to hold on to it. And that is the trap.
>> But it's a mirage.
>> Exactly. So when you don't take and take and take and that that do not agree again before you know you go increase meaning if before just one drag you be they take to feel that high before now before you know you don't take half blunt >> before you know that half blunt nobody reach you again take full blunt before you know you don't wrap your blunt to be jumbo size >> understand no because think about before now one drag give you that highness but jumbo size you need to finish one. So meaning something changed in between and what happened is your brain your brain now don't adjust to accommodate before you know now maybe now normal weed now you start with >> that weed now not going to hide you again weed now come like cigar for your mouth they tell you ask people when they smoke they will tell you >> most people when they take very hard drugs today they know how serious hard drugs make for drugs they call gateway drugs like cigarettes, alcohol, all those gateway drugs.
>> Okay. Not be all those are not be really hard drugs.
>> No, they see they are alcohol drugs you don't know any substance you take that interrupt your brain.
Now drugs.
>> So what's the difference between drugs and hard drugs?
>> Okay. Now mostly the effects hard drugs which if you also call them street drugs those ones the effects stay much stronger.
Understand they are not controlled like for example now if you they buy most say trad or retinal you know what you know how many milligram you know how many dosage so they controlled but if you buy ice you don't know you don't know the understand you don't know the chemical components >> it's actually without restriction without restriction >> yes you get so those hard drugs now and not forget if you get some why do we call this one hard drug it's more had psychoactive drugs in some drugs when we say they're not as psychoactive as the rest.
So in like you know compare weed with cocaine.
>> Understand? Although weed is still considered hard drug you get me but you not go compare them with cocaine. You know why the effects be they different?
It just like comparing cigarettes with weed you get. So now make you see say all that is a different drugs different effects. So what they call hard drugs now mostly those psychoactive drugs get hard and instant effects on you.
>> Mhm.
>> Understand be hard drugs. Why soft drugs? Most times you want some psychoactive be gateway drugs.
Cigarettes, alcohol, understand gateway drugs, but they not be hard drugs.
>> Hard drugs. Okay. Okay.
>> Those ones are soft drugs. But then you still get psychoactive tendencies and you can still get addicted.
>> So apparently gateway drugs they are in proportions. You have like one cigarette now. They know the amount of I don't know what you say makes cigarette tobacco or whatever. You know the amount of maybe 20% of tobacco inside this but for example we now is just like the natural resources now you know whe big or you small so there's no proportion they just taking it from the direct source there's no >> there's no control >> and which most times make say most times all these hard drugs they need to overdose >> understand put this way if you never see person take drugs they vomit before >> you don't see I'm >> good >> anyway see I don't want go into that details because we don't get time >> we don't get time >> see now basically from after taking that dependency go enter whereby you don't see person tell you say if I wake up for morning if I don't smoke like this I [ __ ] oh you never my guy >> so get to that point >> that is not the worst point Okay.
>> In that one, that one is dependency >> dependency stage.
>> Dependency stage.
>> Okay.
>> Where you where your body not depend on this substance to function.
>> I feel sleep if I don't smoke.
>> If you don't smoke, >> you don't feel eat >> especially for those medical students when they use them as excuse.
>> The intention is they want to pass their exams comes with good grades and the drugs helps them concentrate. That is the excuse.
Good. It sounds very reasonable. It sounds very legit. You get until you fall into the trap where now your brain now depends on external substance for you to be able to concentrate.
Meaning your concentration factor now don't reduce. It now depends. You are now becoming a slave to something you a master to.
Cuz when God created man, he gave the earth to man to be a master overall.
>> So for you now to fall victim into a creation means like you come become a bond like under a bondage of what you're supposed to be a master to.
>> See one thing people understand submitting to being in bondage to substance they just affect your mind. It affects everything about you. Your willpower, your your zeal to pursue goals. You know why?
You don't watch all these slavery movies.
Imagine a child that was born a slave and you're telling the child, you know, one day you're going to have a car, you're going to have a house and have a wife and children of your own and they going to have a good life. That is not part it's doesn't function because slavery have made them not believe that that is not a possibility they can't think of your master still owns you and the funny thing is the power your master have over you is the power you gave to your master what happened when slaves decides to revolt so the power was never in the master's hand it was India's but the master understood how to manipulate them to actually follow his orders. And that is why some you hear some people tell you say Christianity now white man religion all those kind all those kind things and all that and all that say they use Christianity to control us and all that is because they understood the power of religion in controlling the mind of a man.
M m >> so religion was an excuse to come in was a tool because they didn't most of them came as missionaries and people that came to do business you get so they understood what it means because they knew that they you will not submit to them >> but you will submit to a higher authority above them so they pretend to be the the intermediate you understand like people when they stand so if you want to get to the person you have to go through me making me your god H and I make during that time most times you see say the slave masters most time they always use Bible they tell you say slaves the Bible says that you should obey your masters.
>> So you see where they using the god factor to manipulate the mind. So automatically you gave them the power.
So that drug not get power over you give them the power and that is why you can it is possible to get your power back. Although it might not be easy. M so we we go into that but before then we we did this dependency stage so what's the next stage >> now after dependency stage in which your body no function now you know eat without go toilet without in some some guys you know most some ladies you know have sex without drugs so you now depend on that substance to function that dependency stage now after that period now where we now go into addiction mm M so addiction is the last stage.
Okay.
>> Understand? So dependency is not the same thing with addiction.
>> Understand? Dependency is not the same with addiction. Addiction is that drugs have actually hijacked people when they into computer you know when you be say person hack your system or hack your network you get or your server.
>> The your brain now have been hijacked have been hacked >> by that substance. That is where most times that craving plays a role. You now become you see during my time when I was when I was struggling with addiction. Um I struggled with addiction for like um I think 8 years 7 8 years.
>> Yeah. Yes. No worry. That's that that side they come the story side they call.
Okay. So now the funny thing about all through that period was the battle was difficult coming out you know why my brain have been hijacked I wake up in the morning the first thing I'm thinking about is how to get it so when the craving come your ability to resist or make a decision to say no is no longer there >> in dependency you still have a chance to say no but In addiction, you you don't become a vessel. You no longer live for yourself.
You live for the euphoria the drug gives to you.
At that point, you can no longer function without I lived in a euphoric life for years.
Meaning I didn't know what it meant to feel normal without the drug for years.
For years. As the one when you take the fade back up the inside bag, you feed a wa dude. Sometimes I work like this. The craving go hook me. I go look for one restaurant toilet go inject myself.
>> You you are completely a slave to it by them.
>> My brother slave is an understatement.
>> It's an understatement >> because slaves still have the power to revote.
Okay, >> understand slave at least a slave you get purpose.
>> Okay, >> in addiction there is no purpose but just it's a serpent eating his own tail.
Okay, I'm sassy because when I do that research about why a sapper should eat his own sometime abnormality why sometimes based on hunger so if he mistake entail to be a prey >> that's out of that hunger starts to swallow itself and as they swallow in the day full understand in the few same day full and the more they swallow the more they consume itself so you are trying to you are trying to quench a hunger by consuming your own self until you're gone.
So now addiction be you they kill yourself you can't help it bro wait I just draw your curiosity soon there was a time e >> Jesus >> this my hand my bones were showing all these scars when you see now side effects of the drugs they inject myself with my body start to the decay >> Jesus So literally can say no no no flesh no day here all this place flesh no just the bone. So my my my hand actually decayed to the extent my bones were showing even at that it was killing me but I not stop when I not see to injure for hand again I go leg now you get same with this other one and of open this one because of this one they more more devastating >> to be honest with you as I'm talking to you now I'm temporary temporarily disabled. I will not say temporarily. I will say partially disabled.
Why I will not say temporary is because it's not a temporary condition cuz most of the muscles and the veins here are gone. So unlike this toe that I can fully move to and fro this one I don't feel move the same. Now even now I can't do cardio they do physiootherapy to try help the leg as a result of drugs. So guy like this now you see you think I fresh like this I be I look good bro compared to that time say before I like shorts I they like wear short sleeve because I I get this very fine fine body yes I get very fine body so when I come out even I like my I like brunts my body but my body that I love so much they destroy they decay imagine you Watch zombie movies.
>> Yes, >> you they see how people unlike other zombie they want their body some >> dude that I was a living zombie if not before if not able to the same room with me cuz I was smelling like a corpse like a decaying corpse.
I wake up every morning and the first companion I have are maggots coming out of my own body. Till today it's difficult for me to eat white rice just like that. You give me white rice, you see I will turn them to jelloof >> cuz why the trauma of having to always clean maggots out of my body. So when my when I see those rice my mind inter >> that's how traumatizing the experience was.
But yet I know stop that's to show you how bad addiction can be.
I wake bro you know I attempted suicide three times do you know how many times I promised myself that guy I will I don't go too far back to addiction matter back addiction matter >> this is actually very serious >> now um so at that point for addiction you don't get control again >> there's no control >> you get like you live for it >> no essence >> the money you work out goes for Good point.
>> If you don't have money, you start selling your properties. I used to be a power biker.
I bought my first power bike when I was in university.
Power bike. What if I once said that power bike fairly used that time around that 3 something million back then I sold it for 35,000 NRA Jesus.
You shock your And with the 35,000 NRA, I was still telling the person, "Thank you. God bless you." The person did me a life because when the craving come or when it say it say this your phone they use you so your car not even useful you're struggling they tell you say oh my dealer oh my dealer I had someone I think I at last year there's one of my guy told me that the business is does he does is looking for people that smokes colossus. He say people smoke property say he have a very big land I think look he said close to the road he say he bought that land for less than 5 million that means the person the person addition he bought it like he said never said but that land is valued for around 45 million the person millions that never cook her.
>> So that be business they buy property from people they smoke.
>> Say most of all these most of all these dealers most times they don't show you their wealth where they sell most they show their wealth but they have places where they get one dealer one for bene here understand they catch one of him boy when they sell. So yeah as a car and all that. So when I come for road I say the boss to your side they say yes so then carry my boy I don't go I go I bring 1 something million to bill the money they my back cash I be carry and go give them but they talk say they do meeting so make come the next day and all that >> so easy >> so when they tell me complain that boy that boy heard no grand instead of to do this up how much I pay him every I go talk how much in the PM because some people go as vacancy to go do for job as to the >> I have because I have someone there was a lady that was reaching out to me one time like that I think about last around last year because I sell cars that's my that's business so the girl say you want buy car the the month you want not be you know normal girl we want buy car now you say maybe like 10 million the car big I don't want to measure the big so I actually save that contact. So I was seeing status all the things they say. I was like so funny.
>> No, no, no, no. See my bro, my bro, one thing that scares me, I know this thing is going out to the public. But why I'm saying this boldly is because I know it's something that if something is not done urgently, it to become inevitable. M I radio the day at least now kidnapping now before they worry about >> why boys enter kidnapping. No before yah cism robberies and all that and all that. Now most most of those people they do robberies now they make money in reduced and all those kind why they see as of income and all that good now Yahoo now don't they cast you get so now Yahoo plus enter >> you get me now not everybody get mind to come they go use their mama or their papa people they know use money ritual you get so now before you know now another lucrative business start during militancy See you kidnap white man you get millions like that. So instead of you to carry gun go house they tell what do you have they come bring 100,000 they bring 200,000 why not just carry the gun you carry the people keep relatives bring millions come they see where the business ideology they come now >> now it don't become an industry you just keep before now white men before rich men now anybody >> you get you don't you don't carry them don't become industry why pursuit of money I am it's coming to a stage where if something is not done, you see the way we get cartel wars for abroad, drug wars, cartel war, where this cartel going to fight this cartel very soon that's what we have because it's a lucrative industry. See bro the drug cartels and industry huh their own their own pass oil money pass oil money you know the good you know the funny thing about them they don't pay tax at least if you have oil oil well and all you pay government they don't pay tax like that >> and you know the very thing is As long as they are users and junkies, they will always have a market person when buy market of 1 million now mostly just normal smoke before you know finish.
So now make in my campaign against drug abuse I stop bothering about the dealers and start focusing on the market >> on the market >> cuz if there are no consumers >> there are no buyers there will be no >> there will be no demand. simple economics and the reason why it's increasing in Nigeria now is because the demand is increasing.
Drugs before used to be something that is was hard to get undercover something like coded coded thing to do and it was expensive to get big money expensive get money do drug normal local guy that time >> but now now that do you know that this color was not about three I believe four years ago Colorado was inverted into the market.
It was never there before they call those one synthetic drugs.
Listen weed when they use chemical spray put sometimes said we carry grass normal grass spray the chemical put for the grass. So you go they smoke the grass but now that chemical they make you high. So they call them synthetic. What are they trying to do? They trying to imitate the power of weed but in a higher higher for so now people they enter lab they cook these things they call them science students and then they enter lab people enter lab to cook these drugs so it's an industry I see the dealers you see for streets now be the main people those want buy motor that one himself the real people the baronss you don't even know their names you don't even know all those all those dealers get all those on errand boys >> cuz he gets from baron to distributor distributor before you know come down come down to the dealers so the dealer is more like the like the retail store >> those they stay inside where they mostly they stay all this old place backyard I don't know >> that was before no be now again >> and I I blame the society for that because we know these dealers then they save our environment then they set our backyard they safe our frontage we know their hangouts and we allow them because why we believe say e leave them all those useless people but last last not forget see as they say for that your environment your children when they that environment are still getting exposed to it.
>> You get so back to the matter of addiction. When addiction not set in now guy, you don't have choices anymore.
You don't have choices anymore. You begin to do once the craving come. E bro, I could remember one time I don't ever forget that thing. I pray like God free me from this God I will never do this again if I do this again Lord kill me I was sincere guy don't be laugh m the funny thing they funny now because you don't pass understand but then it was not funny was not funny I they cry like small they come out I was like oh god your mercy oh god have mercy we never do this again. If I do it, end my life. Kill me. I will never I promise. I guy as I talk aim craving sit down one side cross leg they look me they do like this when look talk it finish never finish cuz immediately I talk. Amen.
Eh the say finish. Oh guy my g we are back. We are back to aa I'm hungry.
So but but I mean for someone like you that has because first of all the foundation you get background at least Christian background and all of that you could struggle with it to this extent.
So imagine person say maybe pap there was no let's say no religious background not be Christian not be Muslim not be they all day that kind of person so be for this set of people espec as as we speak now because you know they still get most of them still get money they never reach that stage where they said they because they pick so I'm just wondering I'm just someone like you See see one thing understand you know say for your whole business not be every time person they pick make they get new pickers and old pickers >> understand olders new picker and the rest and all the pickers and takers now they take a while before those guys they pick sometimes where they pick they pick mega understand now before they pick again what if the resources when they get finish before they pick again. be noises you know you never hear say go pick I went pick before go pick again so what happen in between that period before you pick again if you addicted make you see boy say okay now buy tele everything but when that craving don't come and you never pick by then before you know they selling things car sell everything and most time see where they deceit they always most times they believe say ah after when I pick again I'll buy them I am back. So that's why I'm saying if someone like you say you get some home training at least before you enter school, you could still struggle with it to this extent. So what's the hope of the normal person growth >> then cause maybe see brush they smoke and see this one then enter like that.
So what what what hope would we have for these people to come out from?
>> Okay, see addiction >> my brothers this is what I can say about that.
No child chooses where they come into life. No child chooses their background cuz if every child they should choose their background maybe for choose mosque younger sorry elder brother for Nigeria you kind for heaven. So where would you like to be born?
You use pride tell me give you bar you know that heavenly bar where they get golden pen and feather now you use right hand with boldness America citizen but none of us get to do that we don't choose that. So your background is not your fault. Your background is a product of the choices your parents made.
>> So you can't blame yourself for your background but you can blame yourself for your future.
You don't get to choose how you enter life, but you get to choose how you live life.
You blame your parents for your background, but you can't blame your parents for your future.
And God is not unfair.
You reason now. God, you believe say God be.
>> Yeah, sure.
>> Good. Because I strongly the time be pass no >> I swear something I KNOW of actually pass through that phase I was actually I passed through that pain I struggled a bit with it God exist but that's a story for another day but not know personal experience actually >> now talk about >> you talk about say you No like we not we we are we determine how we live this world you understand but our parents determine how we come so you cannot determine your background and all of that so you be good student at the end of this broadcast I will write exam given >> okay now back to what I was saying >> so you you >> we actually go unfair >> God is not wicked >> and we you also believe say God make mistake Yeah, >> bro. If God made you make mistake, reason out of all the planets on planet, sorry, out of all the planets in the universe, you choose planet earth.
Out of all the continents on planet earth, >> Africa, >> you choose Africa. Out of all the countries in Africa, you choose Nigeria.
Which state you from?
>> Edo states. Out of all the states in Nigeria, you choose Edu state. Out of all the local government, choose the local government where one you from. And out of all the village and communities, you choose the one you from. And out of all the families, you choose your mama and your papa. At that point in time for you to be born, >> doesn't that tell you that's the most perfect place for you to come into existence?
>> And that is why there will never be another you.
>> Another you.
>> You know why? assume your papas, >> your mama name, there will never be another osas and e >> that became a couple at that time.
>> Yes, >> understand. And had a child. Sorry.
Write me your name.
>> No sir.
>> And had a child called Noa that was born the day you were born, the time you were born in the same hospital too. And I had the same siblings you had, went to the same school you went to, had the same teacher, the same friends. No, there will never be. That's why two twins are not the same.
>> Not the same.
>> Cuz their exposures are different.
There will never be another you. That's how unique you are. And before God send you come, he know how you structure you and you look everywhere else and decide that is the best place for you to come out from. So you not be the best. But the wisdom of God, they different.
And bro, I don't know if you love yourself, but how how possible is it for you to love yourself without loving where you're from?
>> But that's your origin.
Let you notice most people when they fail and they give excuse for their failures saying my papa not do this, my mama not do this, my background, if only I had a better background. You notice most of those people are giving excuses why they didn't make it instead of giving reasons why they should make it.
I don't know if I matter because self-esteem plays a role with with drugs.
Most of the people they try drugs now out of low self-esteem because they see another person dam so peer pressure influence them to do cuz they don't make you believe say for you to be a man enough for you to be good enough to be accepted by them means that you have to do that and because you you are not you are not okay with who you are you now choose to change who you are to adapt to who they are for you to be accepted.
So before you start thinking of someone else loving you see when we grow up there so many things they didn't teach us as they grow now once you practice they think of girlfriend and someone to love you but funny enough why would you be wicked enough to be looking for someone to love you when you can't love yourself that's a double burden you're putting that's why most times people when when the person break up with you you feel like your life have ended because you place your life at the mercy of someone else you now feel that without the presence of that person you can't exist exist. Yeah.
>> And the funny thing is, why would you be that needy enough that you have to place your existence at the mercy of someone else?
Because nobody can ever love you better than you can love yourself except God.
>> So, you're looking for what you ought to be giving yourself at from another person.
I I don't know if you're really getting you're looking for it elsewhere. So most times we always pursuing the right things at the wrong places which also includes drug. We're in pursuit of happiness understand and we now find it in drugs.
But at what cost?
>> At what cost?
>> At the expense of what? But happiness funny enough is cheap because why? Happiness is a choice.
There will always be reason to be sad.
There will always be reason to be depressed. There will always be reason to be frustrated. But there's also every reason for you to be happy.
And the funny thing about the mind is your mind will always show you, your eyes will always show you what you want to see.
For example, mot like this. Imagine say you don't know me before. Eh, and somebody come meet you. Ah, you see that guy Abraham that guy ah very terrible, very wicked guy. That guy here if he now say terrible things to you >> about me.
>> Sorry. Now at the end of everything when you now you see me on the road what is the first thing that happens?
I see you.
with that picture >> fear >> and only few people as are actually matured enough to filter that opinion but no matter how much you filter that opinion that picture will still be there at the back of your mind you get so when you see me because you don't already get the picture say I be bad person. What happens next? Almost everything one do that time will not be interpreted to be bad.
No matter the amount of good one they do now only the faults you going to see.
>> You see >> because why? That is what you choose to see. But on the contrary that's the opposite of love. Love is also a choice >> because love is choosing to ignore the imperfection and accepting the perfection.
>> Be positive. Yeah. Because everybody get good, everybody get bad. Understand? You finding emphasizing on the on the bad.
Love is it's not like you erase the bad.
Understand? But you focus on the good while you work on the bad.
>> See your you get baby.
No worry. All of when he get crush on understand it doesn't stop it. Okay.
Tell me for my worry. Make shift mic talk after.
>> No, no, no. Make talk like this. I'm not married. I'm not married.
>> You're not married. Catch yourself. No worry.
>> Okay. Now you notice one thing.
Anytime you for your babe, you angry at them. At that point, you see you notice any small irritate you.
If you cough, even the cough irritate you. I mean this this can be you not we don't actually need to get this is normal things with relation maybe with your siblings even parents you understand friends close friends >> why use why I use um relationship because it's not intimidating it's not because that's someone you claim to love so much but yet you attributes that >> you choose to love that person >> understand but because the person portray triggered an energy a negative energy within you almost everything that you remember Say she knows how be cook but you try her food since >> understand she knows how be do this she knows how be do that but before that time she was the love of your life the perfect woman what then happened what you interpreted your brain so the thing is most of us we see ourself how the society sees us not how we see ourselves people don't treat you based on who you are they treat you based on who they If you're cruel to me, it doesn't mean I deserve to be cruel to. It simply means that is who you are.
>> If you're bad to me, doesn't mean I deserve to be to receive bad.
Understand? Cuz if that was the case, Jesus himself would not have loved us.
>> Yeah.
>> You get? But it's because that is who you are. Cuz if you're a good person, you portray good attributes to me. So for the reason that you're portraying bad attributes to me means you are bad not me.
And most times we define ourselves based on how people treat us.
But the question is how often do we focus on how we treat ourselves?
We are so we are so in a hurry to validate ourselves to others that we forget to validate ourselves to ourselves. M >> how many times you don't make promise to yourself and you keep that promise >> keep that promise yeah >> but the one you make to your babe you walk scatter to meet them up the one you make to your friends you try meet up guy show I go show and you inconvenience yourself to meet up but how many promises have you made to yourself that you kept >> so self love is something that we are not being taught because if you know that there's danger in this >> Mhm. M why are you curious to try it out? So self love and drug abuse there is a correlation >> there is.
>> So >> and funny enough that is what addiction does. Addiction destroys your ability to love yourself.
That's what addiction does. It destroys your ability to choose yourself over anything else.
So before you were hustling to have a future. Now you're hustling to be able to afford to buy the drugs.
Now make you see a babe when me say YOU SEE THE GIRL THIS ONE PARTY slay more fine understand her skin they glitter back before you know you don't get exposed to drugs they take drugs this same girl when a normal day e if you see for road fe excuse me cuz you looking at self you don't get inferiority complex now This same girl e go ready. If you offer that guy that time say let me give you 100k for a night e you go receive the insult of your life because to her she's way more valuable than that she's not that you think I'm that cheap come hear English but if that same girl get exposed to drugs come get addicted that girl go they give quickie for completed building for 500 sorry I say 500,000 for who give you 500,000 for 500 naira go they give quickly for completed building for 500 NRA only because he won't be able to afford to buy that drugs without protection for that matter.
You see the thing is I've never actually felt this way before but from see I feel so cold just enter my body from and I'm not seeing this from a point of pity because I'm see because normally I say warrior this one to get money I make buy this thing so but with this interview from what I'm seeing from a point of these people are enslaved like I mean they have because the face point it is the only where to have control is before the addiction stage. Will I even say before even trying it?
>> Exactly.
>> So I I actually pity for these people now with this story. Co just sent my >> no to be honest. See one thing that is why actually I'm here because I think this is high time the society change their narrative.
Addiction is a mental disease.
Now sickness at that point not be matter of decision or motivation alone. How many times you don't see person when say they do drugs or they addicted when say your advice family go sit them down advice as as they talk to them tears they come out they cry understand he feeling bad and all that and to be honest he is honest he's sincere he really wants to stop he hates what he's doing to himself he wants to stop as he advised Sam he's honest with his response yes ma'am I will never do oh my I'm sorry Good. The moment income come off for that place and the environ the next environment enter environment when they encourage such in they call trigger for drugs understand triggers like friends memories um situations emotions this can be triggers >> like me now cut I start from but in order for me to recover when I come bi here my doctors advised me don't go back to potter remain in bin because I want change environment I want us to make this thing you don't go my next question. So let's make it a bit more practical. All right. What are the ways because is there because I asked question hope day for them hope day for people but seeing you it be like hope day you understand with the level like not be like hope day you understand seeing you and the level from what you have said hope day.
>> I want you to let's make it a bit practical.
What ways can we advise or what procedures should we give to these people on how to get out of drugs people with and the willing ones because most of them are not willing but let's say the ones that are willing what ways would you advice let's give them the steps they can get out of from where they are and the second one is let's how what advice do you have for the younger ones Like the people is it gener people not old again. Jenz is from 1999 2000.
>> Yes. So Jafa now people born for 2005 206. These people do drugs some of them they want enter. So what do we >> So after Jenza we have Jen Alpha we have Jita and Gamma. Who who they give the body name call us millennial as we of this >> millennial. So the one before millennia is gen.
So what advice first of all the what advice will how what are the procedures that they can use to get out of drugs drug addiction to liberate themsel? The second is what advice would you give to people that are thinking of moving out with friends? Should I try this thing out? So, let's let's make it a bit more practical.
>> Okay. Um, now the thing is this is um I'm not a professional medical or practitioner. Neither am I um a psychiatrist.
>> But in my own experience, because everybody's recovery journey is different.
>> Different. Okay. understand is different depending what's your motivation what's but in my own case I had I kept a picture of who I was and it became a pursuit for me even in the midst of the addiction I tried not to lose my sense of identity how most times thank god for Facebook when say my old pictures stay there so sometimes I would just screw so sometime they see myself good glass if I see a far stranger I no longer looking that way. So I had like I want to be like this again.
>> Now the first step of what I did was I had to open up to somebody because addiction and drug use flourishes in secrecy.
>> Not just secrecy isolation.
>> That's in isolation.
So now I had to open break first of all break that barrier. I had to like talk to somebody. Luckily for me I was blessed with someone that um I could talk to without fear of judgment.
But even when I opened up to her it was too heavy for her.
For the first time since I knew that lady, that lady cried like you see where adults they cry as even lost pe because I don't really go think too much this about myself hopefully maybe another episode. Now the thing is when I opened myself to her made her understand it there was this I felt lighter but after the pain and all the complaint and everything she she put in her effort to help me fight it. So I was no longer fighting alone. She now helped me to register into rehab.
So it's good that you seek for professional help. Addiction is very difficult to stop addiction on your own >> except maybe divine intervention. You see that talk of I just decide say I stop I stop me. If you been know me before me when say me say I think most times when those people are saying those things they're talking from a point of dependency not addiction >> addiction >> now point of dependency the day they stop be addiction cuz at the point of addiction see like well you fall enter well let be that addiction and for you to come out for the grace doesn't take the thing far.
You go try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try climb climb you fall I be the motivation now I not go again okay this morning I not go take this money I not take this money I not take this money boo you don't fall >> understand now meaning your willpower can no longer help you >> help you your will alone >> understand your motivation and willpower is no longer enough cuz it have already been hijacked since >> so now what rehabilitation does for you It's like a rope. Understand?
>> Assistance.
>> Yes. Assistance. It's like a rope when come down. And not forget. See one thing about addiction. Addiction is like digging a well while you are still inside.
>> And the more you deep they go, the more difficult it is for you to come out.
clam >> and DON'T FORGET THE DEEPER IT goes e the sound when you dig you're not going to see you have to tri again >> so as you dig you they cover yourself as they dig you they cover yourself so automatically you're burying yourself that's addiction for you so you go try climb climb climb maybe sometime you manage one day two day you not take three day you not take one week you not take before you know you just lose guard you fall back again but that is where Being accountable to someone helps. Having someone you respect, someone you you see with a high esteem. Understand? Being answerable to that person plays a vital role because even if you can't do it for yourself, understand knowing that you answer to this person, we help you.
We help you. So when they throw that rope, that is where family support come in.
And don't forget I mention say addiction and mental disease that is where treatment comes in.
treatment also. Okay.
treatment >> now but only be say addiction treatment they work like the way normal sickness they work on say you just sw and don't forget addiction is a chronic disease there is no cure >> you can only manage it as I did like this now I think this year will make it 4 years I've been clean okay >> and yet every day I tiptoe around myself so I no lose guard relapse Yes. And the bad thing about relapsing is that like when you fall enter that pit now understand you don't you don't stop you don't like when you fall not be where you start to climb now you stop >> where you start you go beneath so meaning any check anybody anybody want stop for some time relapse they was passed the way in day before yes so recovery is not a journey that is Easy bro.
See that 7 years I be addicted. I just enjoy being an addict. I was fighting to come out.
So night they always tell people bro instead of not know they think of recovery think of not getting involved at all. It's a journey you don't even want to start. It feels good yes but when it's not a journey you want guy.
Especially this Yahoo boy come say I'm doing this for mama to give mama a good life if drug hook you mama see they run around for rehabilitation center to help you so the same mama want help now run for hospital for rehab because he became want help and turn to drug addict all in the name of if I take this I help me walk help me keep my eye open most boys that's what they get addicted to ice what is their excuse because you understand they don't want sleep. They don't want slack. Active active active active so your destruction go active too. I swear >> you get so most times recovery now I say recovery different from different different people but one the most common part I know is number one talk to somebody if you don't get person if you talk to we have there's an NDLA free to call number that make you get Google search for that in that call is free it's a tofree number where you can call and talk to professionals and tell them that I'm having an addiction. This is what I'm struggling with. And they will guide you.
So you being able even my own time when I called that number two, they told me to talk to some who did I talk to my pastor cuz after guy I enter rehab up to like five times before I come before I was finally clean.
My rehabilitation started from port couple of hospitals before you know I come bini. The reason why company of sedu psychiatric hospital >> yes because they actually um they I when I did my research now one of the best rehabilitation government rehabilitation centers in the south south be that >> because they are being sponsored by who >> understand so they get track record so now make come in order to like through a foundation help me do donation bring me company to come there but because of the injuries I get for my body I told you my body was decaying because of the injury I get for my body able to attempt. They said they didn't have that facility. So they had to push me to up to push me to UP. Now so after all this period I had someone that I was accountable to because when I didn't have someone I was accountable all this time go listen because I had to go on social media to beg for help.
>> I had to go on social media do post people reposted. They did donations public funding for me to raise money but the money was going into my accounts and I was not answerable to anybody understand my family literally was more who do you send you no go do yourself you see that stigma understand so nobody was willing to help me fight all I was getting was blames and the worst part was the religious bodies churches that when I realized that the most one of the most judgmental people in existence are religious All I got, you know, I told you as a church boy. All I got was blames of understand upon the upon the word you have been listening to upon the anointing upon this commission you see.
So I all I got was judgment and condemnation and all. So I had to fight the battle on my own and funny enough in the line all those period them be saying the money they enter the account people they donate now my accounting they enter and I was not answerable to anybody nobody was guiding me so from that same morning my recovery I still spend on the drugs I'll enter rehab because I'll enter rehab I'll come out okay you understand so there was nobody to so the last rehab I went to that actually helped me understand I was accountable to my pastor >> cuz now pay N helped pay for the for that last one. You get so and also I also when I meet my pastor I that time because me go that church self now based on car go my church now based on I that they my phone so no way for me to raise anything >> and I look for where who I give lumber for to give me money the normal lumber now sometimes I carry inhaler for pocket okay >> that's I stroll for streets go me so imagine me that used to be very comfortable cuz I'm also a hair stylist.
I make hairs and all that. I started I opened my first shop when I was in school too.
>> So imagine me that was doing so well like I was doing so well in school that Yahoo boys thought I was a Yahoo boy.
>> That's how well I was doing. Now call this enter my eye because >> so funny enough this same dude is the one roaming the street begging strangers for money. That is what addiction can do to you. H guy you just imagine me I I was using [ __ ] stick like this and the money they go beg for road one they go beg for streets now so that I visibly able to buy that same drugs when they kill me that carry go meet person for sir I'm based on say I speak good English understand my tunation is very flex you can tell that I'm not a tight person understand I'll come keep one very innocent face I'll be Sir, I'm actually very sick and b see my condition say you know they happen I'm very sick my healer just got finished I need help NY love don't worry but the thing is that um >> this the last rehab I did and funny enough it was on UPTH PABC I was answerable to my pastor and they followed everything bumper to bombber They come the money for my hand and inside rehab they allow you money.
>> But as I enter this last one I still hide my phone understand they try.
>> No they give this phone you can keep in case person go discourage them you get. So but the thing is I had lots of encouragement.
The church was helping me out and my family now got involved.
So I was no longer fighting alone.
Understand? I had professionals and that's what rehabs does. Why they give you medications to help >> understand repair your brain to bring your brain back to normal. And guy have it in mind that it takes 2 years for your brain to fully heal from drug use.
>> Two years.
So why they they give you medication to detoxify your brain to sorry to detoxify your system to heal your brain so your brain will come he >> sorry and that process is a is a slow process >> slow process cuz it's trying to go back to its original state >> state and that is where rehab helps because in rehab they restrict you from having access to the drug. If you say you want alone understand the euphoria feel overwhelm you when we say you go outside >> but when you come inside rehab then you know how now when come out supervised and also when the craving because we call withdraw syndromes >> that's when say if you don't take that drug you sweat you sweat you vomit understand you feel uncomfort your body inch all those things are withdrawal syndromes that that's what it is >> it's normal to feel that way.
>> I won't say it's normal, but is your body reacting to not having that substance in your system?
>> Yeah, that's why I say it's normal to feel that. Your body's reacting to it's not like you want to die.
>> Good. Understand? But at that point when they get the withdrawal syndrome, it go as if you want die.
>> You'll be so uncomfortable. Have you ever seen a junkie that is craving?
Everything go irritate him. But the moment just take that and they smile.
is the truth you get. So at that point rehabilitation restricts you from it because know how when your brain go heal you they take the drugs your brain will feel heal if you still they feed down with that substance. So they will first of all try to stop the flow of you having access to the substance so that your brain can have a chance to heal.
Then gradually that is where your motivation and your ego now comes sorry I say your ego your motivation and your zeal now understand now comes into play cuz gradually now your prefrontal crosses have been to heal gradually your willpower is coming up gradually that is where you now begin to push the fight >> I've got this I can do this >> I can do this but this also comes up to now they see my my counselor and my psychiatrist I still go as outpatient sometime up I still get cravings is and and another thing is avoid being idle.
>> Always do something, >> not just anything. Do something you like.
>> Okay.
>> When I came out of re rehab, funny enough, imagine coming out of rehab. And in short, homelessness was a normal thing for me cuz couple of times I was homeless.
When I first come this, I was homeless.
Nobody wanted to give me an accommodation due to my condition in my state and I could not afford it afford it better sick accommodation they talk about but still when I came out of rehab I remember getting to the apartment the room the one room I rented that time only now only ra for grand like that for grand like that only for me to reach they find out my landlord don't throw everything out burn everything like cuz they were hoping or they expected or assumed that I was dead.
So imagine leaving rehab after months hoping say you want go your house go rest hoping for a fresh start I don't feel a plan how you want paint your room how you want make your leave not funny enough I left re I left rehab on the 24th of December of that year so imagine say you want sleep you want go sleep for your house to to enter Christmas to find out say you're about to enter new year a homeless person but I I understood tood that thanks to the counseling I had and I had people to talk to understand when I called and say this is what's happening this is how happening they understood that Satan was trying to play a smart one because it's difficult to fight when your mind is destabilized >> stabilized demotivated >> yeah understand so that was more like a loophole Satan wanted to take advantage of but one where my psychiatrist actually taught me understand my therapist sorry actually taught me he was like Abraham before you used to spend money on drugs to feel good. What kind of food do you like? I told her I like jello fries. Yes, I like jello fries. I like jello fries. Maybe Ghana jello food.
So that time we waiting like okay since you like whenever you have the craving that money you want to use in buying the drugs use it to go and buy the food you like.
>> So you replace something else you like.
>> Exactly. Because there's no vacuum. M >> understand so that's why most people come out of re rehab and they relapse cuz when they came out there was already a vacuum in your life and you're not feeling it with anything >> to fill it with something.
>> Yes. Because your brain is already used to a pleasure and now you stopped that pleasure. What are you replacing that pleasure with? Sometimes it can be work.
You can be receiving excitement knowing that you're productive now. You're making money now.
>> You get? But at the same time, be careful of the excitement because when you're emotional, that is the one of the times you're vulnerable.
>> When you're angry, when you're overly excited, when you're sad or depressed, you become very vulnerable. So be careful of those periods. And also you have to cut off from influences.
>> If maybe you get guys group say normal day, you get notice say normally on a normal day, they know they smoke. But if they go club smoke, >> smoke. Yeah.
Because why? The setting of that environment encourages that that habits.
>> So avoid places that will trigger such things.
>> Avoid friends. Yes, they want tell you things. They want mock you. Yes, we the way we are raised, we raised to consider other people's feelings over our own.
But this time around, choose to be selfish.
>> Be selfish. Okay.
>> Ah guy mo if possible block all of them.
Like me I relocate. Bong gone.
>> I relocate guy.
Run for YOUR LIFE.
>> Run for your life. No vessel. I don't mean to undermine Benin. Understand? But at least we all know that compared to Pot and Benin, Pakot seems to be a bit more comfortable to live in than Benin.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Understand? It's considered to be more comfortable than Benin. But for me to leave, my papa get house for there. So if I go back supposed to leave I not supposed the parents >> understand but I they here the parents it's because why I don't want to take that risk when I remember how I was rejected how the society treated me the stigma the abu bro imagine where you enter bus the bus driver could stop say me you come down see they go again it's not it's funny right now but it's not funny men you go and buy food they will pursue you come out you hold your money they pursue you come out because they can't stand stand your existence that's what led me to that's what pushed me into suicide now I could no longer live with myself and I could and oh before I forget please very important forgive yourself >> that is the first step >> very important forgive yourself you don't [ __ ] up you don't [ __ ] up Yes. Own it. As I like this now, you can't mock me for being an addict.
>> Why? I owned it. Not be med camera they talk about.
>> You can't mock me about it. I owned it.
Yes, I've messed up.
I paid the price. And today, imagine guy most of my mates don't marry born children. Now they start life a fresh.
A fresh. Me when be say before I be get two two two two two big shops for say to the wrong they run my hair salon understand now now me now they run around they peer up understand they peer up for shops they give me space for me to at least start from there so you can imagine how you can imagine the shift >> so every day is enough you get to wake up you're broke understand you you go you go shop where say they pair with person small people insult You go on Facebook, you see your mates UK now don't post and all that you see people intelligent people help people look up to you before don't go far ahead in life and you you are right now you don't even know what to do with yourself because at this point you're more like bro the last time I remembered being normal before this whole addiction thing I think well that was when I was 25 or so so I could I can't I don't know what it feels like to live a normal life in your late 20s or in your in your early 30s cuz that all through that period I was in bondage I was trapped in a reality that was not reality why real reality was moving on >> moving on >> so now I'm competing in a market filled with jenz's understand that that have technological knowledge the last one I remember now WhatsApp >> and Facebook >> and Facebook you So it's more like I just woke up into the future and found out that life have moved far ahead of me and now I'm struggling like triple triple effort to meet up to meet up.
>> According to my therapist single talk say life after recovery is like pushing a a big boulder understand up a hill.
>> Okay.
>> You know how difficult in day >> exactly?
So I get to deal with the stigma. You see that guy sir if you been know before that's also one of the reason why I don't want to go back at for been here nobody know me.
>> So here I get a fresh start if I don't tell you you don't know >> understand but I was very popular I used to be a dancer >> all those break dancing and all I used to be a dancer and all that.
>> So so so you adise people that maybe they have similar experience just like you they should even relocate.
you advise that right because what you are saying keeping of friends that's the best thing to me from what you so would you adise people to relocate because from your story I feel like it is difficult if you are around that same place because if we are talking about spring from addiction you want to start your life again what's starting life again with the old environment >> okay now the thing is if even if you relocate without proper structure >> it won't still Of course that's in place. I I'm saying that what >> relocation yes um relocation really helps a lot because it gives you a chance to breathe fresh air and start a fresh >> because I'm see because that's what it doesn't have to be state. It doesn't have to be country.
>> Yeah. But the environment environment >> yeah it helps.
>> It helps it helps. Then the same time create a vision for yourself. Earlier before this what I what I was now using to replace was then every Sunday I created a tradition where I go to chicken republic and buy rice rice that I ref rice and chicken these are things that before it's not that I couldn't afford it show interest I loved it so I was now trying to use it to bring back my enjoyment so I'll buy it I'll take the pack home I will spread that time I never get mattress >> okay >> I was still sleeping on on be rapper then I would for grand I'll spread enjoy me in my mind just be playing it that look at I'm about to enjoy this chicken >> that if I go to chicken because they usually know me there so they'll be like I'll tell them the tie the tie part like so when I go sit down so I'll not start convincing my mind that this is enjoyment better than this other one >> so it's actually a deliberate action >> you have to be very very intentional >> intentional about it >> very intentional and not just intentional You have to be aggressively intentional. You have to be selfishly aggressively intentional.
>> So, so let's round up. But I would like you to >> as from the advice you asked for, >> this is what I can tell whosoever is struggling with drugs right now cuz one of the things that most addicts battle with is believing that coming out is possible. And that's why most of them end up committing suicide and killing themselves cuz they hate the state they are in. It is very possible to become free.
It's very very possible. So in case you're hearing me out there, know that that addiction struggles you have is very possible to be free. If I can be free ah I don't see anybody come out. M >> it's very very possible because I was like close this close to death.
So it's very possible. It's going to be difficult. Yes. But your life is worth that difficult challenge. So it's very possible.
>> It's very possible.
>> So so we've we've heard from him there are more things to say. All right. So but because of the duration of the video it's cross over an hour and 30 minutes plus. So because of the duration of the video, we try to just end it here. But if you are seeing this and you have someone that is battling with what's it called drug addiction, for this video to the person, share it to your friends, let them see it and hear firstand experience because me so cold don't enter my body because I have not tal about drug addiction because by the grace of God I'm not addicted to anything okay unless social media like Instagram. So apart from that I don't think I'm addicted to any physical thing you get. So if you have if you have anybody for this video, share it across our platform and if you are someone that is trying to be clean or free and you want to come and share your story or you just need a motivation, you can reach out to us on our email address. we can either give you his what's it called his contact or if he I will ask him after this time if he's going to agree to that or if you want to even come to the studio and come and get advice some tips so that like he said you need sometimes you need positive mind you need a mentor you can be accountable to you cannot do it in isolation you cannot be free in isolation so reach out to us on our official email address [email protected] let's pick it up from there so This was an amazing session, guys. So, we'll see you on the next one. Let's tell our viewers by >> Bye.
>> And don't forget, say no to drugs and yes to life.
>> All right.
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