Debate With British Lady Gets HEATED FAST!

Added: 2026-05-26

[00:00:04]Rachie, you made it up here, didn't you?

[00:00:08]>> I did. Yes.

[00:00:10]>> What' you say?

[00:00:13]>> Can you hear me?

[00:00:14]>> I can hear you.

[00:00:16]>> Yeah, I said I made it up here. Um, >> all right.

[00:00:18]>> I a side note. Can men and women be friends?

[00:00:23]>> Um, >> that's a man and a woman. Uh, you want to know, can men and women be friends?

[00:00:31]I I think I think there has to be um something preventing them from being from having sex with each other in order for that to happen, you know?

[00:00:43]Not not not that they can't be friends, but like like if you're married to my brother, then we can be friends, right?

[00:00:49]Cuz I'm not going to cross that line.

[00:00:51]So, in that case, yes. But if if I if there's like a random woman on the street that ain't related to me in no type of way, you're not related to me in no type of way. You're not dealing with anybody that I know. If we find each other attractive, we're not going to be able to spend an enormous amount of time with each other without giving in to our lust. I haven't I have not experienced that in life. And and I will say that I've tested that out many times. You know, I mean, like there there have been women even especially when I was in college, there were women that, you know, we didn't even have a relationship like that. We weren't friends or nothing. But I was like, "All right, I'm going to be cool with this person." Like I said, no no attraction there or nothing. We're just cool. IF WE'RE HANGING OUT LATE, THEN IT'S THAT'S JUST GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU GONNA WANT ME TO WAX and I'm not going to turn it down, you know? So, I done been through that situation a lot, but you know, I don't I'm not going to make a blanket statement, though. What do you think?

[00:01:46]>> I think that a lot of women think that men and women can be friends, but a lot of men think that now something else will happen along the way.

[00:01:55]>> Yeah. I think I think a lot of men are hoping that something happens along the way for the most part. and and the women, again, I don't know this for sure cuz I'm I'm not a woman, but I think that women get to a point where they, you know, uh uh where where they're open to that, you know. I think that men men right away, they're like, "Oh, yeah, we're going to we're going to hang out and eventually I'm going to I'm going to wax." And I think that women are genuinely like, "No, I'm not attracted to him. I'm not, you know, going to go there." But if you hang around somebody long enough, you're going to find one or two things that you like. you know, he's funny here, he's funny. And then it becomes a comfortability thing. Uh w with most women is what I think that I think men and women can be friends, but I think men most of the time get it in their head that they can be more than friends.

[00:02:47]>> Yeah, I can't deny that. Like I said, I'm I'm guilty of it. I know myself, you know, and so that's why I'm like, I'm not going to uh uh I'm not going to let a woman pretend like listen, my intentions with you are just completely honest and I promise if you threw sex on me, I would never turn it down because I'm such a nice guy. Absolutely not. I know myself. So, it's like if I'm going to be friends with a woman, I'm going to let her know like, listen, if it's not going there, it's not going there. But, you know, don't don't mess with me like that because I'mma take I'mma I'mma I'MMA RECEIVE IT IF YOU THROW IT. You know, I'm like, that's where I'm at with it, you know.

[00:03:26]>> See, I think men, but some people don't.

[00:03:29]So, >> yeah. I mean, I think I think it's it surely is beneficial for for men and women to be friends and not have, you know, uh sexual tension there, but, you know, it's just it gets it's very difficult. It's very difficult. Is that is that the only question you had or or or you were just wondering?

[00:03:48]>> Because you was on about like men and women being friends. So, I kind of got sidetracked by that.

[00:03:53]>> Oh, no. It's all right. Yeah. Like I said, not not that if you know uh if a woman is trying to be friends with me, I'm going to force like no nothing like that. I just think that it is very difficult for people, especially when they're, you know, attracted to each other in any way, to spend an enormous amount of time around each other and that not develop into more, you know, >> like nine years of friendship.

[00:04:21]>> You said what?

[00:04:23]>> Even after like nine years of friendship.

[00:04:26]>> Yeah. I I I mean again I think that if if I could be wrong but I think from a woman's standpoint unless a dude has you know se like severely put himself in the friend zone I think that the longer a woman knows excuse me the longer a woman knows a dude the more comfortable she gets with the idea of you know maybe allowing herself to cross that line again as long as he hasn't put himself in the friend zone you know like me personally I'm not a I'm not a friend zone type of dude, you know, like that. Like like I said, even if I'm not going to be sexual with a woman, I let her know upfront. Like we we're not, you know, there's no intention for me to be sexual. That don't mean that it can't get there, though. All right? So don't, you know, so I think that when men establish themselves, like listen, I'm I'm a man just like anybody else. I find you attractive. If the relationship goes there, it does. If it don't, then that's fine. I think a lot of women are attracted to that. And and the more the more I hold out on that, the more they usually are like, you know, they're the more they're usually comfortable with it, you know, like just speaking from a per from personal experience.

[00:05:33]>> A fiance or a husband?

[00:05:36]>> Huh?

[00:05:37]>> Even if they have like a fiance or a husband, you'd still be willing to try.

[00:05:42]>> No. No. Not me. Yeah. Not me. Now, the average guy obviously probably doesn't care about that. Me personally, no. I don't I don't I don't deal with women that are in relationship with other people. Yes. So, like I said, that would be that would be the um that would be the the clearest cut way that I would that I could be friends with somebody. I could be friends with with my brother's uh wife or whatever. You know what I mean? Because I can't look at her in that way. You know what I mean? Because I'm I'm that's just the way that I look at [ __ ] Now, I got friends that are not like that. I got friends that will that will have sex with my wife in 10 seconds. For sure. For sure. You know what I mean? So, I'm just saying I'm just like that. The average man though, yeah. No, they don't give a damn who you married to. If that if it's getting thrown, they catching it.

[00:06:26]And a lot of women don't care.

[00:06:29]>> What was that?

[00:06:30]>> Yeah. Well, because obviously you was on about like men and women being friends and whether they could or not. But, uh, back to the flat earth.

[00:06:38]>> All right.

[00:06:41]>> Yeah. So when you say the horizon and like the geometric horizon >> like no one actually says that we see the geometric horizon because we live in an atmosphere so we can't see the geometric horizon. We can only see the apparent horizon.

[00:06:58]>> Yeah. But it's implied when people say stuff like boats go over the horizon, right? Because if because we're talking about whether or not the earth is curved. So if you say the boat is going over the horizon, it's implied you are discussing the curve of the earth. So that would also imply that you think the horizon is where the curve of the earth happens. So yeah, people don't say that explicitly.

[00:07:20]>> I disagree with that.

[00:07:22]>> Would you disagree with >> what I'd say is Yeah. What I'd say is that we say that it's going over the horizon, the apparent horizon that we can see. It's going over the apparent horizon, not the geometric horizon. And that's why you know like do you know quantum ariser?

[00:07:37]>> Okay. But but but this is my only thing that I'm not understanding. If you are admitting that it's not going over the geometric horizon why bring it up to prove the shape of the earth >> because if it was flat >> if it was flat >> come on.

[00:07:56]>> Yeah. If we assumed if we assumed so like like how quantum array QE likes to use if P then Q. So if the Earth was flat, then we would expect to see that it wouldn't go over the horizon. It would just shrink.

[00:08:11]>> Raie, Rachie, what you're saying is is incorrect. But I I want to be clear that this is what you're saying. You're saying that, and again, this is not evidence either way.

[00:08:21]If I start a sentence by saying if this then that, that's just an if then statement. It's not evidence. But let's explore this. You're saying >> let's explore this. Let's explore this.

[00:08:32]>> Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Are you saying that if the Earth was not was not curved, there would be no horizon?

[00:08:43]>> I'm saying that if the Earth was flat, >> would there be a horizon?

[00:08:46]>> Would the horizon There would be a horizon.

[00:08:51]All right.

[00:08:51]>> Would be like a a It wouldn't be like a >> You're making that up.

[00:08:55]>> Gracie, that's conjecture. That's conjecture now. You wouldn't know that.

[00:08:59]>> You wouldn't know that.

[00:09:02]But we we can mathematically prove them.

[00:09:04]>> Yeah.

[00:09:04]>> No, you cannot mathematically prove anything, Rachie. You prove things using scientific experiments. Okay. Listen listen.

[00:09:12]>> Science doesn't prove anything. It falsifies things.

[00:09:15]>> All right. All right. But let's let's be clear. You admit that there would be a horizon if the earth was flat or curved.

[00:09:22]So when you see ships going over the horizon, that is not that is not exclusive to a curve. Now you are saying that the horizon would be different if the earth was flat. I need evidence of that because that's conjecture.

[00:09:39]>> Yeah. But what is exclusively to a curve would that if a ship was going over the horizon and it was curved that it would disappear bottom up >> and it would and it would do the same thing. It would do the same thing no matter what the geographic shape of the earth is. Okay? That's what I'm declaring. And not only that, listen.

[00:09:58]Listen. And not only that, not only that, if the ship is going over the horizon, it's not going over the geometric curve. So, this is not a conversation about the curve at all. I can't believe you don't understand that, Ra.

[00:10:13]>> Hold on a second. Do we live in an atmosphere?

[00:10:16]>> I I assume so. Yeah, I assume so.

[00:10:18]>> Like, do we have a medium? Do we have a Yeah, but I think I think the medium is fluid though. I think the medium is is water.

[00:10:29]>> What? No, we're not breathing water out.

[00:10:31]>> How do you know?

[00:10:34]>> Well, you can go in water and try and breathe. That's not going to work out.

[00:10:38]>> So, what So, what is condensation then?

[00:10:42]>> There's water in the air. That's humidity.

[00:10:45]>> So, SO WE ARE BREATHING WATER. SO, WE'RE BREATHING WATER. RAIE, >> AIR. It's a mixture of it.

[00:10:53]>> Okay.

[00:10:53]>> You're also breathing.

[00:10:55]What? Hey. All right. My point is that do you think that the fish think that they're swimming in water or or or are they just breathing air? Probably. What are the fish doing? What do you think, Raie? You think they're like, "Oh, I'm in water." No. The fish don't know they're in water.

[00:11:12]>> Likewise, you don't know you're in water.

[00:11:14]>> We're different to fish. We can test. We can experiment. A fish doesn't.

[00:11:19]>> Listen. Listen.

[00:11:20]>> I mean, we can we know we can we can test the air and what it's made out of.

[00:11:24]We can see that it's so much oxygen, so much nitrogen, so much hydrogen. You know what I mean? A fish a fish can't do that.

[00:11:31]>> Can't determine what >> their medium is made out of.

[00:11:36]>> Yeah. Yeah. So fish aren't smart enough to make themselves ignorant to what's really going on around them. You know what I mean? If like we our entire >> the of the water, >> our our entire universe, I'm pretty sure, is water. Absolutely everything is water. You cannot escape it. Even though there are different consistencies of it, even though you guys choose to call oxygen oxygen, a classification doesn't change physical reality. There is 100% water in the atmosphere. The atmosphere is 100% pretty much just water. Now, it could be different forms of water. It is different forms of water with different consistencies, different molecules, etc. But it's water nonetheless.

[00:12:15]>> There's water in it, but it's not just water. If it was just water, you'd drown, wouldn't you? If you If you tried to hold That's conjecture. That's conjecture.

[00:12:22]>> You're going to >> That's conjecture.

[00:12:24]>> If you went in the ocean or a pool and you went straight underneath and you tried to breathe, can you breathe?

[00:12:28]>> I'm I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying it's the same water that's in the ocean. I'm saying it's water vapor.

[00:12:36]Is water vapor not water atmosphere? Yes. But >> water vapor is water. Okay. So, listen.

[00:12:45]It's a different medium what fish is in.

[00:12:47]>> If I was I never said it was the same medium as fish. It is different than the medium that fish is in. But if I if I am in a medium of water vapor that's still water, I would not drown. So that's ignorant for you to say that if if the atmosphere was water, we would drown.

[00:13:02]That's not true. The atmosphere is water and we are not drowning.

[00:13:06]>> But what I'm saying is we live in a medium. Therefore, we can't see the geometric curve because we live in a medium that is refraction. We can't ignore refraction like QE tries to do.

[00:13:16]>> Uh uh you we can ignore everything that has not been proven scientifically.

[00:13:20]Raie, just because you say we can't ignore something, that don't make it true at all.

[00:13:26]Okay.

[00:13:27]>> You don't believe in refraction.

[00:13:29]>> I said you have to prove that something is taking an effect in order for me not to be able to ignore it. You can't prove that refraction is the reason why we can't see the curve. Because you know what the other option is? There is no curve. If we don't see it, those are your two options.

[00:13:44]>> Is refraction proven?

[00:13:46]>> In this case, no.

[00:13:49]>> No. In any case, is refraction proven?

[00:13:52]Do does ex does refraction exist?

[00:13:55]>> I I I it depends on what what you're specifically referring to. What what what do you define as refraction?

[00:14:00]>> I'm just asking if refraction as a thing, does refraction regardless of where we are, under the ocean, where the ocean, whatever.

[00:14:08]>> Are you saying does light bend at all?

[00:14:11]You're asking does light bend at all?

[00:14:13]Does light bend at all? That's what you're asking.

[00:14:15]>> I'm not saying if perfection exists yet at all in any listen I don't know if light is a physical substance to be bending in the first place. So if light if light is like you know uh some of our genius inventors of our electrical theory claimed if light is just a pertabbation of the medium then no light actually doesn't bend no refraction doesn't happen different parts of the medium get pertabbated based on certain energetic frequency changes. So that is a more accurate description of light.

[00:14:50]>> Isn't actually the bending of light, don't you?

[00:14:52]>> That's a more accurate description of light than it being particles that are bending. There's no evidence that that occurs actually.

[00:15:00]>> Isn't actually the bending of light. You do know that, don't you?

[00:15:02]>> Say it again.

[00:15:04]>> Refraction isn't actually the bending of light.

[00:15:07]>> I asked you what it was and you didn't answer and so I just went with bending of light. What is it?

[00:15:11]>> What's refraction?

[00:15:12]>> No, it's it's a change of wave speed. So we know that light is a wave, right?

[00:15:18]No, we don't know that.

[00:15:20]>> You don't know that light's a wave.

[00:15:21]Okay.

[00:15:21]>> No, we know. We know. We know that light apparently travels in a wave. Light is not a wave. Actually, >> in a wave, but it's not a wave.

[00:15:35]>> Correct. Water travels in a wave. Is water a wave? No. Water is not a wave.

[00:15:41]Even though water sometimes travels in waves. You see?

[00:15:47]>> But have you looked at it on the quantum level?

[00:15:51]>> Have I looked at the quantum level?

[00:15:54]>> YEAH.

[00:15:54]>> NOBODY'S LOOKED AT THE QUANTUM LEVEL.

[00:15:56]>> NOBODY'S LOOKED AT THE QUANTUM LEVEL UNLESS THEY'RE IN CERN.

[00:16:00]>> This ain't CERN.

[00:16:03]>> I know. I haven't looked at the determining quantum level.

[00:16:08]>> Okay, let me let me stop being facitious. All right. At the quantum level, it gets even more confusing about what is really going on and not going on in our reality. All right? Things like locality and even gravity as it exists on Earth do not even exist at the quantum level. So our entire understanding of the world really goes out the window when we start looking at quantum mechanics.

[00:16:34]But my main point that you're missing is that when you say geometric curve, there's no person that would say it's going over a geometric curve that you see actually going over a geometric curve. It's going over a current curve because the atmosphere, we don't ignore the atmosphere.

[00:16:52]>> Now people like QE do ignore the atmosphere. That's why they say if P then Q. So if it has a radius of 39 59 then we expect such and such but they know the atmosphere knowing that it causes refraction and we know that there is refraction as like when I says about the boats floating in the air when you see what appears to be a boat floating in the air. Do you think that boat's actually floating in the air?

[00:17:17]>> I think the boat is floating on in water like it always was. Now listen, Rachie, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you why this your response sounds a bit ignorant to me. And you've been watching me for a while, so I know you're not taking this personally, but when you say when you say that people are not suggesting that boats are going over the geometric curve, but they're going over the apparent curve. To me, that sounds stupid because they're trying to prove that there is a geometric curve. Just follow me for a second. really take in what I'm saying. If we're talking about the shape of the earth, all right, another way to say that is you're trying to prove the geometric curve. That's what you're trying to do. Prove the geometric curve. So, when you bring up ships going over the horizon and you admit that the horizon is not a geometric curve, you are either implying that you think even though it's not going over the geometric curve, we still see the geometric curve even though it's not going over it. IT'S IT'S IT'S IT'S IT'S FLEETING BACK INTO THE ATMOSPHERE, not the geometric curve, but somehow THAT IS EVIDENCE OF THE GEOMETRIC CURVE.

[00:18:28]THIS IS THE DUMBEST THING EVER.

[00:18:31]>> ALL RIGHT, I see where you're coming from. I see where you're coming from. But what do they say when they say it's going over whether whether it's whether you want to say geometric or apparent, what do they they specify when it's going over the curve?

[00:18:45]>> They say it proves A GLOBE. IT DOES NOT.

[00:18:48]>> NOW, BUT WHAT so say we say a ship we see a ship on the horizon and it's going over the horizon. What do they specify about that ship? What specifically happens to that ship?

[00:19:00]>> They're saying that the ship is disappearing from the bottom up because of the curve of the earth.

[00:19:07]That's not true.

[00:19:08]>> Would it disappear?

[00:19:10]>> Yeah, but does it disappear bottom up?

[00:19:12]>> I don't I don't actually know. Okay. I'm just dealing with the parameters that people are giving. All right. If they say that it disappears from the bottom up, I will believe it. If you guys say it disappears from the bottom up, I will believe it. But if you're going to say it's happening because of the curve of the earth, you got TO PROVE THAT THAT'S WHERE THE CURVE OF THE EARTH IS. IT'S NOT disappearing because of the curve of the earth.

[00:19:30]>> That's that's the point. That's that's that's the point right there. So if it's disappearing bottom up, why would it do that on a flat earth? If we say the earth is flat, why would it magically disappear from the bottom? Why not the sides in or the the top down? Why the bottom disappears? Why?

[00:19:48]>> I will answer that question. If you admit that this doesn't prove that the earth is curved >> even >> because it disappears button.

[00:19:56]>> No, no, no. I want you I want you to admit when you ask me the question.

[00:19:59]Okay, explain it on the flat earth.

[00:20:02]Whether I explain it on the flat earth correct or I don't, that doesn't prove anything, does it, Raie?

[00:20:08]>> But it does because the flat earth can't explain why it disappears >> in incredul. Raie, Rachie, incredul is proof now.

[00:20:16]>> No, no. What I'm saying?

[00:20:18]>> No, no, that is what you're saying.

[00:20:20]>> One second. One second. The globe can explain why it disappears bottom up. Can the flat earth >> having an explanation for something is not scientific evidence. Raie, can you agree on that or no?

[00:20:34]>> What I'm saying is if something can explain something, but something >> I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. Are you hearing what I'm saying? Remember I've got I've got loads of point. This is just one point. So one model can explain this phenomenon.

[00:20:47]>> I ra this is this isn't point number one.

[00:20:52]>> Okay. Okay. Okay. But I'm destroying point number one by establishing the fact that this is not EVIDENCE EITHER WAY. IT DON'T MATTER WHAT EXPLANATION you think you have. That don't mean nothing. If I write a paper and I SAY HERE'S MY EXPLANATION, WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN TO ANYBODY? It don't mean nothing. I don't give a damn how many times it was peer reviewed. That doesn't change real. Raie, let me finish. That does not change reality. You admitted earlier that we are not seeing boats go over the physical horizon. So you cannot insert boats going over the horizon as physical evidence of anything. All right. Point that that we No, we don't. No, we don't. We don't know nothing. Rachie, you're making all this up. No, we don't live in air. We don't live in air.

[00:21:39]>> You don't No, we live in water. Nope. We live in water now.

[00:21:43]>> So, we don't breathe air.

[00:21:44]>> We breathe water.

[00:21:46]>> So, we don't breathe air. There's no oxygen in there. There's no oxygen in the air.

[00:21:50]>> Do you know what condensation is?

[00:21:53]>> Yes, I do know. So, does that mean no air? Does that mean That's what I'm saying. So, it's watery. It can be oxygen. Can be hydrogen. Can be all different.

[00:22:02]>> Raie, this is how you know you're getting beside yourself. All right, Raie. This how you know. Cuz I said there's water in the air and you said so there's no oxygen in the air.

[00:22:12]>> Doesn't mean that though, does it?

[00:22:14]>> THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID, RAIE. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE BESIDE YOURSELF RIGHT NOW.

[00:22:17]>> YOU'RE BESIDE YOURSELF.

[00:22:18]>> I'M ASKING YOU. I'M ASKING YOU. Just because there's water in the air, does that mean that the that the air is only made of water? No, it doesn't mean that the air is only MADE OF WATER.

[00:22:28]>> OXYGEN IS A COMPONENT OF WATER. IF THERE'S WATER, THAT MEANS THERE'S OXYGEN. RAY, I EXPECTED A lot more from you today. I'm not gonna lie. I expected more from you.

[00:22:38]>> You can't have pure oxygen, >> huh?

[00:22:41]>> So, you don't think you can have pure oxygen?

[00:22:44]>> I WOULD HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING THAT. I WOULD HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING THAT. I would have no way of knowing that for sure. All right. I've never done that experiment in a lab. I don't know the answer to that. But I know for a fact that the evidence that we are breathing water vapor and not oxygen is the fact that condensation exists. I can get a sheet and put it outside like nothing. No nothing. JUST LITERALLY OUTSIDE, RIGHT? AS THE OXYGEN GETS COLDER, IT COOLS to water. THAT'S WHAT WATER VAPOR DOES. WHEN WATER VAPOR gets when water gets uh uh at a higher temperature, it turns to vapor. That's when we're breathing. WHEN IT GETS COLDER, IT TURNS TO WATER. THAT'S WHAT CONDENSATION IS. Condensation turns the oxygen OR THE WATER VAPOR BACK TO WATER >> EVERY DAY. But no, >> but my main point is we can demonstrate that a curve can make things disappear bottom one.

[00:23:37]>> Okay, Raie, Raie, Raie, Raie, stop right there. No, no, stop right there. No, hold up. Stop right there.

[00:23:43]>> Finish because you know I'm right. We can control at the bottom.

[00:23:47]>> I want I'm trying to agree with you.

[00:23:49]Reggie, I'm trying to agree with you, but I don't want your points to get lost when you go on to 10 11 other things.

[00:23:54]All right. So, you said bottom line is this what you said. Bottom line is a globe can explain why ships WOULD APPEAR. RACHIE, ARE YOU LISTENING? I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS TO YOU. All right, please listen. Okay, please.

[00:24:11]>> You said demonstrate.

[00:24:12]>> All right, I'm I'm going to turn you down, Rachie. I cannot hear you at all.

[00:24:15]All right. So, you said that a globe can explain why things might disappear from the bottom up. Raie, you're correct about that. A globe can explain why things might disappear, but that doesn't mean [ __ ] Does not mean [ __ ] All right. It's not about what might could happen. IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT MAYBE could have happened. What actually did happen?

[00:24:50]WHAT DID HAPPEN? AND CAN YOU PROVE THAT that is what actually happened? Well, I know that that's what happened because it's possible, Rachie. Things being possible do not make them true.

[00:25:06]And I can't believe you don't get that.

[00:25:08]Yeah, it's possible that it's a globe.

[00:25:09]Sure, everything is possible, but unless you prove it for sure, it's not evidence. It's not true AT ALL. I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH THAT.

[00:25:18]SO, YOU WANT TO ARGUE ABOUT THAT? OH, YOU'RE CUTTING ME OFF CUZ YOU DON'T WANT ME TO BE RIGHT. RACHIE, I'm not cutting you off cuz I don't want you to be right. I'm cutting you off because you're right, but it's meaningless.

[00:25:27]You're right. Yeah, sure. It would be explained by a globe. Is it explained by a globe OR NO? NO, IT'S NOT.

[00:25:37]>> All right. Go ahead, Richie. You're off mute now.

[00:25:42]>> Well, your last sentence was it can be explained by globe. Is it explained by globe or not? No. So, that kind of contradicted itself. But >> how was that a contradiction? No. How was that a contradiction? You don't get to do that. You don't get to do that.

[00:25:55]How is that a contradiction?

[00:25:56]>> That's what you just said.

[00:25:57]>> Yeah. How is that a contradiction?

[00:26:00]>> That's what you just said. Anybody can sleep there and >> Okay. All right. Fine. All right. Fine.

[00:26:03]All right. All right. Fine. Let me explain to you how it's not then since since All right. I got to do this to you, Ra. You know, I got to be fair. All right. Okay. So, if I if I have a bottle listen, if I have a bottle in my room, right? I have a bottle in my room. I leave and I come back and the bottle is on the ground broken. Now, a possible explanation for that is a ghost movie.

[00:26:22]Is that possible? Sure, it's possible.

[00:26:25]Yeah, it's possible. People see paranormal [ __ ] ALL THE TIME. WHAT IF I HAVE A CAT IN my room, right? Is it possible THAT THE CAT KNOCKED over the ball over the bottle? IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE CAT KNOCKED OVER THE BOTTLE.

[00:26:37]DOES THAT mean that the cat knocked it over? No. So, that's why I said even though it's possible that the cat knocking it over can't explain it, does that NECESSARILY EXPLAIN IT? NO. AND YOU THOUGHT THAT WAS A CONTRADICTION, RACHIE?

[00:26:50]>> NO. NO. OH, >> what I'm trying to say. But no, wait there. Not letting me finish. I I did say explain.

[00:26:57]>> I'll admit for a good reason.

[00:26:58]>> Right there.

[00:27:00]>> Right there. I admit I said explain at first. I did. Right. We both agree. I said explain the glo explain FL. We both agree with that. I said that right.

[00:27:08]>> I don't agree with the second part. I agree with the first part.

[00:27:13]>> Well, that's what I said. I'm saying that we we agree that I said the globe can explain it, but the flat earth can't.

[00:27:18]>> Okay. Yeah, we agree that that's what you said. Yes. Yes. Yes, we agree that that's what you said. Yes.

[00:27:23]>> So, what I meant to say or what I can add to that is the globe, a curved surface can demonstrate that, but a flat surface can't demonstrate.

[00:27:34]>> What's your evidence of that?

[00:27:37]>> Show me a flat earth, a flat surface demonstrating.

[00:27:40]>> That's not evidence.

[00:27:41]>> You telling me to show you something isn't you providing evidence. You know that, right?

[00:27:47]I can show you evidence that a curved surface can show. No, >> I didn't I didn't disagree with that. I disagree with the part that you said a flat surface cannot reproduce said effect. What is your evidence that this cannot be reproduced on a flat surface?

[00:28:03]>> But you disagree with that. Just show me that it can produce that effect.

[00:28:06]>> So, so, so just say you don't know, Rachie. I don't have a problem with that. I don't have a problem with that.

[00:28:11]You have to admit that you don't know first though. We're not going to dissolve you. completed. I was a flat earth or I tested it.

[00:28:18]>> Okay. So then tell us how you tested it and how do you know that it's impossible to get that same effect on a quote unquote flat earth. How do you know that?

[00:28:28]>> Is it on a flat surface unless the camera angle that that camera lens is below the actual thing? Then you won't never get it to disappear. Bottom up.

[00:28:38]>> You wouldn't accept that as an answer if I gave it to you Raie. You would not accept that as an answer >> in my video. If you if you can show me, it's good. I I I challenge you to show me a video. You have a flat surface and show me an object disappearing bottom.

[00:28:53]>> Raie, Rachie, Rachie, it's it's really this simple. So many people have done this so many times. The fact of the matter is, and I and I know you already know what I'm about to say, but the like again like I'm I'm questioning your critical thinking a little bit after this conversation, Rachie. All right.

[00:29:09]The fact of the matter is that if you think that the the ship is disappearing from the bottom up because of the horizon, that would only be true if the ship would never come back into view no matter how much you zoom in. There have been infinitum infinitum observations. I can't hear you. infinitum observations and uh experiments using lasers that have pushed past this three mile alleged curve. We talking about 10 miles, 100 miles. Somebody came up earlier and they were talking about an observation from a mountain where you could SEE LIKE OVER 5600 MILES. That defies what you're saying right now about ships going over the horizon. And guess what? Even though that surface is flat, it still looks like ships are going over the over the horizon. That is your evidence. Your evidence is what you see in real life.

[00:30:07]In real life, you can see a ship that looks like it's going over horizon. And then when you zoom in, oh, the ship didn't go over the horizon. It's still there. So that evidence exists everywhere. And I know you've seen it.

[00:30:18]So that's why I either question your critical thinking, Rachie, or maybe I have to uh uh uh come to terms with the fact that you're actually being dishonest.

[00:30:27]will admit I have seen that video where where the ship disappears and they bring it back in but that ship doesn't disappear bottom up and that's angular resolution. So basically >> I think you're being dishonest. I think you're being dishonest about that.

[00:30:42]>> Finish.

[00:30:43]>> I think you're being dishonest about that.

[00:30:46]>> Is too small to see. So, so basically if you look at that video where it appears that a ship disappears, but then they bring it back into view by zooming in, you can actually see that ship never disappears bottom. And when you actually zoom it back in, it hasn't gone over the >> That sounds like a lie. I'm pretty sure that's a lie. Every single ship that has ever disappeared bottom up for the most part has been brought back into view with a higher zoom camera. All right.

[00:31:10]You are just lying.

[00:31:13]>> Prove that to you and then I'll challenge the Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, send it to me, >> Raie. Raie, send it to me in the DM.

[00:31:22]I'll look at it and then we'll discuss it when I come back after after I'm done with my family. All right, >> move on.

[00:31:30]>> Shout out Rie. Oh, my bad. Did you have something else, Raie? Did you have something else? Cuz Yeah, we're we're we're done with that one. All right, we're going back and forth on the same thing again. I don't I don't believe you're being honest at all.

[00:31:45]Guys, do me a favor. Like the video. All right. Like the video and sub if you like the content. I said I was going to be up here until 5. I'm I may stay like an extra 30 minutes. All right. 30 more minutes if you guys want to come up and discuss something. All right. Rachie, I I I I I put you down, just so you know.

[00:31:59]So, you're not up here anymore.

[00:32:02]You got to you got to accept the request.

[00:32:07]Star said the boat goes out of sight the same way a balloon goes out of sight when it floats far away.

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