Jacinta Ngobese Match & Match leader Drop Bombshell Warns SANDF on unleashing military on protester

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[00:00:00]I think that would be the first. I'd be shocked that our government continues to want to go against the people. But on top of that, um, as we had promised, we seeing a lot of people talk about the 30th of June as though they're waiting for some holocaust to happen.

[00:00:15]>> Um, and is even blatant about the SDF, >> um, and the role that they're going to play. But for us, it's it's not going to go in the direction that they think. Um because we know how much they've been craving to to use us as posters for for violence and xenophobia. Even when there's no violence, they created in their heads.

[00:00:41]>> Um I mean, it was even so bad that even the minister of police was claiming that the people of Ghana experienced some violence. And when we sent a message to him, we didn't get a response of who are these people from Ghana? an entire Minister of Police issued a a statement saying that. So, what we're dealing with here is a government that is itching for violence.

[00:01:03]>> Um, I think for them it's it's an opportunity to to test their powers because if they wanted to to deal with crime and deal with violence and deal with all the problems that we have in the country, all that excitement that they have, they could have used it.

[00:01:19]Right now, we've dealing with a lot of crimes and criminals and organized crimes, but I've never seen them so excited to unleash the military.

[00:01:28]>> So, if our demands are not met, we'll see.

[00:01:35]>> Thank you. Thank you.

[00:01:40]>> Thank you so much.

[00:01:42]Um so today's meeting was a fruitless exercise um because we've got a government that has mastered the art of pretending as if they're doing something even if they're not doing anything. Um today's meeting was mainly just governments doing a tickbox exercise to say that oh we met with them we tried to to to tell them this is what we are doing so that they can stop the nonsense that they're doing and we then um warned them that should they try anything we would be ready. That was the whole point of today's meeting. Um and our government has made it a habit man to try and and intimidate its own citizens. We've seen this in numerous times where um they keep telling us about the police and how we've we've told the police that they must deal with them. We've told the police and this is exactly what I was saying in the statement that you've never seen them with this much excitement to deal with illegal immigrants, foreigners, and the the corruption. I mean, Nigerians are on television every single Sunday. Repeat offenders over and over again on the streets. They've taken over buildings.

[00:02:50]They've taken over the streets. They've taken over places but government doesn't do anything right now. There's they're killing each other there. Those Somalians for tuck shops and this is something that government knows. They're even killing South Africans for tak when Mazi was kidnapped. Not a single government person came out and said, "Oh, we're going to find those Somalians that kidnapped." They don't they don't have that energy. They don't have that vigor when it comes to fixing um foreign nationals and putting them in their place. So South Africans have assumed a posture of being the ones that are going to be dealing with illegal immigrants and their behavior in this country because the the the immigrants that we have in this country, they are twofold.

[00:03:32]There are those who are here as professionals and they know what they hear in the country and you'll hardly ever hear those getting themselves in involved in nonsense. But the ones that know that they are criminals, they are they are illegal are the ones who are always intimidating us on social media, they always the ones sending threats.

[00:03:51]They are always the ones that are the loudest. And I'm going to ask even members of the media. The same way you are following these immigrants on Mo Road every single day, follow up pa on who was burning our houses. Follow up on who's sending us threats. follow up on the cases that we've opened in our government doesn't do anything about the people who threaten our lives because it it's very being a foreigner in South Africa. I think sometimes I wish I was a foreigner because foreigners are extended with so much grace. I mean they stand in front of the TV, they cry for 2 minutes, everyone is already saying, "Oh, they're so poor. Oh, they are so sad. Oh my goodness, these people deserve."

[00:04:34]And you know for the first time I must say I must give credit to to SABC for their journalist who asked the correct questions to an immigrant. I think I've never in my life seen a journalist ask questions to an immigrant. What are you doing in the country? How did you get here? Why are you still here? Are you breaking the laws of the country? No. The questions you guys like asking them. Have you eaten? How much food have you had today?

[00:05:04]Oh, are your children going to school?

[00:05:07]Oh my gosh, what did much do to you? Oh, that is so sad. Guys, there's laws in this country. This thing of running a country on Ubuntu is exactly what got us here. All those countries in their sad poverty stories there. If you were to go use PA to that country, nobody's going to ask you if you've eaten. Nobody cares if you've eaten. Why are we running a country on Ubuntu?

[00:05:31]How much ubundu can you extend to the whole continent and the whole world? We have laws in this country and those laws must be respected. Whether you are sad whether you're a refugee cuz this other one is saying he came here as a refugee cuz he had a fight with his family. Like imagine you're a refugee because you had a fight with the family and we must you decide to go to a whole other country.

[00:05:50]Hi we've got serious problems in this country. So today's meeting was just that it was just a government being government. H they not they don't have a if what I can tell you they don't have a plan one they don't know how they're going to fix the immigration crisis except to intimidate us to submission to keep quiet they don't know who's going to to help them to solve the problem and more than anything they are very terrified of those African countries if there's one thing I must tell you they never call them out on the human rights violations they are committing on their own people but they know how to tell much and much not to violate those people their own governments violated them first. Why are you not attending to the initial problem the root cause of the problem? And that's why we are here today. And then on the immigrants and more road. Oh Jesus.

[00:06:48]I think South Africans also need to wake up. I mean there's a pattern to this.

[00:06:52]It's not the first time they're doing this. They've done it in Cape Town.

[00:06:56]They've done it in Johannesburg. Now they're doing it in Durban. And you fall exactly for that trap. You go and you stand there with cameras. Then they start crying.

[00:07:05]I'm sad. I'm broke. I'm poor. I'm this.

[00:07:08]I'm that.

[00:07:12]Firstly, how we deal with that is remove those cameras from those people. There's nothing newsworthy about those people.

[00:07:19]Absolutely nothing. The crowd is getting lesser and lesser. And anyone who fears for the life won't go and sleep outside home affairs if you are scared for your life. Like any scared person you you scared will you go and sleep there when you are scared cuz you will go and find a place where you're not going to be exposed.

[00:07:37]Why would a scared person go and sit where they are going to be even more exposed? Because if M and M was trying to hurt them, do you think we wouldn't have hurt them by now? All those days they're sleeping outside there. If we wanted to hurt them by now, they would have been hurt very easily, very simple.

[00:07:55]But those same people who say they're running away from M and M, they don't want to open cases. The other one came to a news journalist and said that they were hit by someone of M and M. The journalist said, "Did you open a case?"

[00:08:08]And then they're asking me about it. I said to the journalist, "Why do you entertain people who haven't opened a case?" Cuz that's hearsay. You know, I wouldn't go to the media and say, uh, oh gosh, there's a foreigner who stabbed me, unless I say, I have gone to the police station, I've opened the case, this and this happened, etc. So, now you you you're busy giving these people exactly what they want, and that's sympathy. Now, they're demanding their own town. Like, they want their own town from our government. They ran away from their government. Now, they're saying they're not safe. Why are they not running away now? Like, what is stopping them from running away? because I guess their job is to run away from being scared. Us as South Africans, we don't run when we scared, we fight and that's the difference between them and us and if they were not running away from their government and they are fighting it.

[00:08:55]Trust me, African leaders would be much better leaders today and that is our concern is that they sit there in Facebook every day swearing at us and m and m and this and that. The energy that they have is the same energy all Africans need to have for their government so that we don't have these corrupt leaders stealing money from people stealing resources getting rich and their children are on social media living a life buying LVs and Gucci's while you are living in abstract poverty that is not a South African problem and you can't blame South Africans for for protecting their country. And the last one of borders. Um, do we want borders to have a border fence?

[00:09:36]I think South Africa is currently facing a huge security threat more than a lot of us realize. South Africa has NPOS's and NOS's that are foreign funded and have millions of rents. That money goes to buying arms. And I'm saying this having received this information in confidence. And I'm saying it because I want anyone who says that I'm lying to go and research what I'm saying and tell me that I'm wrong. These foreign funded NOS's, some of them are used to buy arms. So there's a lot of guns that are hidden by these so-called refugees that they have to protect themselves. So they say, but it's not about protection. You must ask yourself which country in the world discovers military training grounds that you didn't know. The the the government of Lutu said that young people in Lut are coming here to be trained for the military. This is what the lutu government said. South African government doesn't even see a problem.

[00:10:38]Sham they think everything is nice. I think mamuji is too focused on much and much to focus on that state security.

[00:10:47]The biggest problem we made was putting that under the president of the country.

[00:10:51]I don't even understand how that happened. Why would you put something so critical under the hand of the very same president who is more interested in foreign affairs than internal affairs and protecting this country. So we have lots and lots I'm sure you as news people you know there's bombs being found at the border for for heists and all these things. And right now we just saw even the Krueger National Park um the two the couple that passed away they apparently the the people who committed the crime ran to Mozambique. There's other criminals like um the the Moyo guy who shot two police ran to to Zimbabwe.

[00:11:32]It's a common thing. So, we need a a serious serious border in this country because those vehicles, I don't know if you saw those vehicles that were there by that were paraded by the home affairs department that they go into the river blah blah blah. Those rivers don't even belong to BMA. They were just a demonstration.

[00:11:53]They've gone back to the owners because the government says they can't afford it.

[00:11:58]>> They We don't have enough drones. The drones that they say they have are not enough. Shm the situation at the border is BMA is suffering a lot. They're only operating at 25% capacity. That means 75% of the country is exposed to any threat from any international um even military agencies or agents and and we're sitting on a a ticking time bomb. And I'm really hoping South Africans will stand up and defend their country because I mean seemingly the president doesn't fund the Navy, doesn't fund the SNDF, doesn't fund the police.

[00:12:37]Every single state entity that's meant to protect the country and its citizen citizens is defunded.

[00:12:45]Which leaves you with the question, which president in the world would want to leave their country that vulnerable?

[00:13:00]Um guys talking me complimenting might offend some of you know it's just I needed to compliment her because I really was was was taken aback by by her interview skills. Um but I take nothing away from you members of the media. uh if we did you wouldn't be here today. Um but the 13th of June 2026 maybe I should just give a brief background of how it came about. So there's much and much and then there's people who are joining much and match. There are members of March and M.

[00:13:37]Then there are people who are just ordinary people or organizations doing the same work that we're doing. And that is the likes of they're not much and much. They are our support. We're a team. We support each other in that same ideology.

[00:13:55]And we as March and March did not issue the date of the 30th of June. It was issued by which is and when he mentioned that he did say that they would deal with it in a way that they see as fit.

[00:14:15]So um for us we have encouraged all other movements that are dealing with illegal immigration to to really hop on the band bandwagon in the sense that this is a date from my understanding that is issued in order to encourage illegal immigrants themselves to deport themselves without us having to intensify our struggle or fight to the government. Because really it means that as South Africans we are giving government until the 30th of June to give us a map of how they are going to deal with the issue of illegal immigration. I don't think any of us are stupid to think that all of them will be gone. Of course not. But we are encouraging them to go before the 30th of June because what we know is that the kind of illegal immigrants that we have here think they are more South African than South Africans. Um, if you tell them about their home countries, they get very angry. If you remind them that they're not, they get very furious. They can even kill you if you remind them, hey, when are you Nigerian or when you're a Zimbabwe, then they they call you selfhate, you are xenophobic, you're Afro, all of this, right? So, there's two types of of of immigrants that we we are dealing with. There's those that we know will selfport. We know those ones.

[00:15:37]They're most most of the time just innocent people who are just coming here to just make a living etc etc and those will go. They're not going to give much of a problem. But the ones that will stay are the ones that are the biggest problem. Those are the ones that require the intensity of the government that require the intensity of South Africans.

[00:16:01]And that's why we're going to intensify our our push back to government, our pressure to the government. And all those who always say you're always fighting immigrants and immigrants are innocent. There's not a single innocent person who comes into the country illegally. There's nothing innocent about that. So they they are just as much to blame as our government for coming into our country legally. And we are we are we are really urging government to go to these embassies and and start those conversations.

[00:16:32]Start telling those embassies to collect their illegal immigrants and and yeah and and ask them to leave the country.

[00:16:41]Uh are you satisfied?

[00:16:43]Okay. And then the issue of the SNDF.

[00:16:47]I think it would be a very sad day if the government were to resort to unleashing the soldiers or the military on its own people. I think it would be a very very sad day. We already know that they've done it in the sense that they say they are combating crime that they have failed to to control. And I feel like um with that being done, they can use those very same soldiers that they've deployed to fight crime to remove illegal immigrants. But so far, I haven't seen illegal immigrants being removed by the SNDF, which once again proves that our government is fighting its own people.

[00:17:27]They're not fighting crime. Because if they were fighting crime, there would be SNDF members there at Point Road. Where there are women and girls that are trafficked, where there are 13 year olds that we found breastfeeding a child of a Nigerian there in that room, where there are drugs and the police there at Point Road are part of the criminal network.

[00:17:50]If the government was really sending out the SADF members to fight um the crime that we have in this country, they would have started at those places. But they're not interested in that because they know exactly why they've been sent out. And maybe we'll hear from mom a what exactly is her p plan because you can't kill every single South African because majority of us are tired of illegal immigrants. If they want to kill all of us, then they they must go ahead and kill us. But we'll we'll die fighting for the future of this country because I cannot imagine any of our children having to confront Nigerians and and being bossed around by Somalian children. We already have to put up with so much of that. Currently, we're sitting with so many cases of young girls that have been raped and molested by these Somalians and Ethiopians. And they claim it's because they helped us with our date. We've paid our dues. Now it's time that everyone goes home and the national imbe well we're currently still in in talks with some uh government entities because obviously we don't have money to to to pull together something of that magnitude but we're trying our best to do so. If the government doesn't pull together for that, we are definitely going to try and and and get sponsorship from people who are ordinary South Africans to to fund the national ino where all of us um get a say in the issue of illegal immigrants because I think we've seen even on social media, you know, it's no longer a conversation for people who are who are um not educated as some like to say, you know, even the most educated of people are joining the conversation to say South Africa is currently not facing xenophobia. That is not the real diagnosis of the problem. South Africa is currently facing an issue of limited resources being given to people who are not South Africans and South Africans fighting for the survival of themselves because the government has uh neglected them and the government is busy with corruption. All they care about is who's going to be the next millionaire through corruption. They don't care about South Africans. They don't fight there in those meetings cuz they're fighting to better the lives of South Africans.

[00:20:09]They're fighting for who's going to be the next thief that they're going to elevate, who's going to steal for them and bring their money to their political parties, etc. So that is the problem that we're facing. We're facing politicians who want to use politics as a career instead of using it as an opportunity to change the lives of South Africans and deliver services to South Africans. Most of them are criminals disguised as as politicians. Some of them are sitting there in in high fences and high walls, busy doing interviews, drunk, calling us names as much and much whereas they are the ones guilty of crimes. Imagine having to be called by someone who's found guilty by the court of law as a vigilante, an extortionist, whereas they are still running away from going to jail. It must be a very beautiful country that we live in. Even criminals have the audacity to call us names when all we're trying to do is do what the government failed to do. We're not trying to get political uh party votes here like them. We're doing this because we are South Africans who are fed up.

[00:21:19]>> Thank you.

[00:21:19]>> In terms of Africa Day, um denouncing that we would be af we are African would be absolutely ridiculous.

[00:21:27]We are South African but we're also African. What we stand for does not remove that we are African. It just says that for a good relationship to prosper between South Africa and all other African countries, we all need to be able to hold each other accountable as leaders. First of all, we also need to be able to treat our people in the way that South Africa is expected to treat them. cuz you can't be making demands about your people and their treatment here when when they come into the country start hitting them and beating them and abusing them. Currently, Nigeria has a crisis where babies are being kidnapped. Babies, they went into a a home um that is a orphanage where children live and they stole those babies and kidnapped them. And it's absolutely disgusting that African leaders are not calling out Nigeria for the atrocities that they are committing with the same vigor that they have for for for this apparent xenophobia that they creating in their heads. If African leaders genuinely want to make Africa great and they want Africa to unite, they can't be neglecting things that are that important. Those poor children deserve a life. They didn't do anything to anyone. All they did was come into this world. But the the Nigerian government gets to be excused from all this behavior because African leaders do not have the guts to call each other out. They're busy protecting their individual interests. I mean, Tinugu doesn't even live in Nigeria for crying out loud. What kind of government is is a president is being a president of people and not even living in that country? Yet our president will go and meet him and they'll clap hands and they'll smile and they laugh at each other. Why would the presidents of South Africa not find it problematic that the people of of Nigeria are having babies kidnapped, babies, people who are voiceless and this is exactly why I have a problem with these NOS's and NPOS's that are flooded here in this country.

[00:23:25]They want to have free will to get away with all kinds of nonsense, but they never ever take that energy and go and save those Nigerian babies. We saw them running and going to save other countries there. Why are they not going to Nigeria, investing the money that they putting into keeping immigrants here to go and save those babies in Nigeria? So, right now, I'm calling for all African governments to stand up for those babies that are kidnapped in Nigeria, for those girls and those women who are being um abused and kidnapped and killed by those um groups and those um Muslim groups, associated groups that they said are there. They can't keep quiet at a time like this. They can't be focusing on the so-called xenophobia where nobody's died and they keep claiming that people have died. When there's actual people dying in that country, we have a crisis with African leaders who don't have a backbone to stand up for what is right. They must stand up for those children and stop talking about xenophobia here.

[00:24:23]I'm sorry. Just it makes me angry.

[00:24:26]>> Yeah. So I think there's one question left >> mayor >> about the mayor incoming >> you guys really want me to as I said that that mayor position I'm sitting with numerous offers numerous can't even count them but I've expressed over and over again I'm not doing this because I want a position if anything I am studying right now and I'm hoping that the degree I get will shape the next move in my life which is what I'm hoping to achieve. Um I do believe that um as a leader I know leaders should be jealous of me because I I know for a fact that I understand people's concerns better than most leaders. So I understand why they want me to be a leader in it etc. But it's not where I am right now. I can help consult here and there. I I don't mind doing that.

[00:25:31]But currently I that's not where I am.

[00:25:33]And and I and I feel pity for the people of of it because I know I would have been a great mayor for them. But unfortunately that's not where I am. Um because currently Shem um we really like leaders in the country. It's actually sad but scary unfortunately.

[00:25:51]>> Yeah. S from Kevin Network. H you've been quoted a lot saying we are led by criminals also saying most of them are owning certain businesses in Africa like your mining for instance and stuff you know.

[00:26:12]Do you really think is it because I mean they are the beneficiaries?

[00:26:24]Uh that's my first question. My second question uh as we are towards our elections November if you were to adise It is serving the purpose. Thank you.

[00:26:50]Um I think in terms of politicians, I've been very clear about politicians. I think South Africa is falling into the typical African trap of having poor leaders lead people who are just there to loot corrupt you know unfortunately you know you know when when you hear I think the the most disappointing thing is that you don't want this to happen because it feeds into a certain narrative especially about black leaders and you you really you hate that you hate that our leaders are feeding into that narrative.

[00:27:26]But then you look at them and you just see that these people, man, they don't have an idea of what they're doing.

[00:27:31]Mostly because it's not part of their plan. You see a government that thinks about its people doesn't need to plan for something like this because they wouldn't have been in a situation like this in the first place. Because which government would allow the economy that was an economy owned by black people?

[00:27:48]probably the only economy that black people owned fully and you've taken that and you've given it to foreigners and then you disguise that as African unity whereas your people sit at home lamenting about poverty and all kinds of things that speaks of a government that has no clue about leadership but I also blame South Africans and I'm going to go back to what you were saying about South Africans like voting for characters right they like voting for characters someone comes and then says the right things or does the right things but you you when it comes to leadership you can tell men when you ask them pro them they have nothing there but one thing I'm proud about when it comes to Karen is that Kesan has shown that they don't play with their votes you know if someone is not serving you move to the next person and I would suggest that would make for a better country it's not about you hating certain leaders but it's about delivering services we can't have people making politics a career.

[00:28:49]That's not what it's supposed to be about. It's supposed to be about service delivery to the people.

[00:28:57]Very passionate. I was so impressed because went to tell was it come and tell the people about the problem of water cuz I'm tired of explaining. You see that person is not trying to to remove himself from the people. He's saying I don't have the means but let me take you to where you can get answers.

[00:29:16]That's leadership. You know what I mean?

[00:29:18]And it starts with with local government leadership. Those are the people that are supposed to know your problems ins and outs. Where can supposed to know when where they supposed to know when the electricity is going out, where they're supposed to know if she has arthritis and needs a wheelchair or whatever. That's what local government leadership is about. So with asking if if their beneficiaries, definitely they are. Are they thinking about the next paycheck and not about the people?

[00:29:48]That's the kind of of politicians that we have. That's why right now they're fighting so hard against this issue of illegal immigrants because they're protecting their minds in in other African countries. But the reason why we are here uh today is because South Africans themselves are not taking themselves with seriously with their votes. They need to you need to get away from this thing of voting for people because you like them or because um you are loyal to a political party. There must be no loyalty to a political party now. You must be loyal to what you can be given to you. What services can be delivered to you. That is what we are promoting. Be loyal to what you be selfish about your vote. Your vote must work for you. It mustn't work for items just about yourself, but about the future of your children and their future. Spring and