BLACK CONVERSATIONS | WHITE CATHOLIC COUNTRIES APOLOGIZING With TEARS To BLACK PEOPLE

Added: 2026-05-31

[00:00:00]The plagues of Egypt have begun.

[00:00:04]>> We failed you by not raising our voice to speak out against the many atrocities that you suffered.

[00:00:25]No, it is about time that we understand that most of US ARE CHRISTIAN BECAUSE THE SLAVE MASTER was a Christian.

[00:00:36]>> Don't confuse religion with God. That's a big mistake people make. Religion is an institution [music] created by man to serve the needs of men. With the recent news of Pope Leo issuing a historic apology for Catholic Church's role in slavery, you will hear from other Catholics giving emotional apologizes to black people for legalizing slavery around the world.

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[00:01:01]>> My name is Chris McCenenel Mrosen >> from Scotland, United Kingdom.

[00:01:13]I am a Roman Catholic >> Catholic >> and I'm here to confess the sins of Catholic against Africa.

[00:01:33]As a Roman Catholic Catholica, >> I identify with the sins of my forefathers as sons and daughters of the church.

[00:01:50]>> In particular, our sins of a mission against the Congalles people, against you, the people of Africa.

[00:02:07]For our failures, we failed to uphold the gospel message to defend the weak and oppressed.

[00:02:24]>> We failed to defend your worth as children of God.

[00:02:38]We failed you by not raising our voice to speak out against the many atrocities that you suffered.

[00:03:22]Dion. Oh, your excellencies, honorable dignitaries and all people of Africa, >> we as the nation of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

[00:03:59]Confess and repent of the sins we have committed [music] against Africa and Africans from many nations and against the living God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

[00:04:25]We repent with a [music] deep sense of guilt and shame of the following.

[00:04:43]and Africad bill.

[00:05:15]competition [music] with our fellow European nations for imperial domination in the world that contributed to the scramble for Africa.

[00:05:34]the imposition of the empire spirit upon Africa, robbing Africans of their identity and destiny through an ideology of superiority.

[00:06:06]God bless Africa.

[00:06:12]>> I wonder how the racist feel when they die and they realize that Jesus is a black man.

[00:06:20]Like you spend your whole life hating, murdering, oppressing black people only to take your last breath in the very man deciding your eternity looks like the same exact people that you despise.

[00:06:39]Imagine thinking your whiteness made you superior only to stand face to face with a savior who's darker than the people that you mocked.

[00:06:54]Oh, the irony. You can deny history.

[00:06:58]You can rewrite books. Hell, you can even lie to your children. But when that day comes, you can't lie to him. And what excuse can you give the black messiah when he looks you in your eyes and he asks you why you hated his people? That's the part these racists never want to talk about.

[00:07:22]You hate blackness so much, but you might just spend eternity bowing down to it. Now let that sink in.

[00:07:33]>> The plagues of Egypt have begun. It's not just here. Look at Amsterdam.

[00:07:39]Them Dutch cats that did some of the almost atrocious stuff in Africa. Them Dutch cats did some wicked stuff. But all over these European nations, these plagues are hitting their nations.

[00:07:49]Because this, some of y'all don't understand that we do serve a God of love.

[00:07:55]>> And our job is to love.

[00:07:57]>> Amen.

[00:07:58]>> Cuz we're not God. We're not the judges.

[00:08:00]And we can't we can't we can't meet out just judgment.

[00:08:05]But vengeance is his.

[00:08:07]>> He will repay.

[00:08:09]So when the Most High repays, then that's the most high business.

[00:08:16]>> I'm in agreement with the Most High.

[00:08:19]He repaying it. And see, because your esquetology is so messed up, some of y'all going to be shocked when the day of the Lord come and you see judgment.

[00:08:29]Did you not hear in Revelation, the Bible says when the day of the Lord come, the blood is going to be up to the horse's bridal.

[00:08:36]>> That's a lot of killing.

[00:08:38]>> Going to be up to the horse's bridal.

[00:08:40]Blood mighty funny. It's in the valley where it pulls up. Blood going to be up to the horse's bridal. That's the day of the Lord.

[00:08:49]Dear Lord, when the the the Christ ain't going to come back as no lion dying for nobody. You going to come with that arcept of just evaporating cats and just it's going to be terrible. It's going to be terrible.

[00:09:02]It's going to be terrible.

[00:09:04]But we got that picture of the [laughter] And it's just going to be like and we just gonna turn white and just we go, >> man. And he going to the Bible says with a shout like a trump with the voice of AN ARCHANGEL SHOUT [screaming] BOOM. He going to come like that.

[00:09:35]>> It's going to be so violent his enemies is going to say oh my god THEY GOING TO RUN TO THE MOUNTAIN AND SAY MOUNTAINS FALL ON US. HIDE US. Hide us from this guy right here. They would rather be crushed than than to deal with this guy.

[00:09:51]That must be a terrible how terrible our God is.

[00:09:55]>> And so you have to change. Say change.

[00:09:58]>> Change >> your esquetology.

[00:10:00]>> Estoy.

[00:10:01]>> He came as a lamb to die. The beautiful loving Christ, but he coming back as a lion to judge.

[00:10:07]>> Don't confuse religion with God. That's a big mistake people make. Religion is an institution created by man to serve the needs of men. When the Arabs invaded North Africa [music] and conquered our northern territory, they had no mandate from God [music] to do that. When the Europeans took Christianity and used it to justify [music] the transatlantic slave trade, they had no mandate from God to do that.

[00:10:32]So, we have to recognize religion is an institution [music] that is separate from the almighty creator. Religion purports [music] to be about helping you build a relationship with the almighty creator. But there's no greater mistake you can ever make than to confuse [music] a man-made institution with the almighty God.

[00:10:52]>> Religion [music] is religion.

[00:10:53]>> Yes, >> God is God.

[00:10:55]>> White woman stepped out of the crowd and said, "Well, Africans obviously believe in Jesus because of the colonization of Africa by white people." Suddenly, a very black gentleman stepped out of the crowd and said, "Excuse me, ma'am. I am from Nigeria. I am a follower of Christ and my church is far older than any white European or American church. I trace my faith back to Philillip leading the Ethiopian unic to Christ. The Coptic Church is one of the oldest churches in the world. So please don't tell me that I'm a follower of Jesus Christ because of colonization, because of white supremacy, or any of that garbage.

[00:11:33]>> You can look at the black church and tell we used to be slaves. And I cannot unsee it. Let's take a look at these lines by Frederick Douglas. Who gave you a master and a mistress? God gave them to me. Who says that you must obey them?

[00:11:49]God says that I must. What book tells you these things? The Bible. Now, have a look at these. How do you know it's right to fogg slaves? Because God sent Hagar back. How do you know it's impossible to make anyone slaves but negroes? because it's impossible to make anyone else slaves but negroes. While the latter is satire, they're what typical Christian catechisms or call and response frameworks would have looked like in the antibbellum south. One set was given to white church members while another was given to African-American members. The catechisms were used to indoctrinate enslaved people and teach them to see obedience, subordination, and suffering as commands from God. In Got Tell It on the Mountain, James Baldwin confronts the violent legacy of Christianity and how it was used to subjugate black Americans. But to understand all of this, we have to understand the historical context.

[00:12:42]During slavery, religious instruction was used to systemically dehumanize black people. Today, we can see that catechisms are distortions and just outright lies of Christian theology. But this is how Christianity was perverted to enshrine black suffering as divine and permanent. In Baldwin's Harlem, the black people are not slaves in the legal sense, but they are shackled by a religious ideology that equates pain with virtue and freedom with sin. That being said, Baldwin still respects the deep and complicated reality of the black faith. The book is simply an honest depiction of how Christianity has been distorted into a tool of control over the bodies and minds of black folk.

[00:13:20]>> I'm talking about the religion of whiteness, also known as white Christian nationalism. Now, white nationalism is the belief that white people are inherently superior to all other races and their Christian cultural identities deserve a segregated geographical area.

[00:13:36]Its practitioners are known as white nationalists, a group of militant white people who espouse white supremacy. And white supremacy is the belief that white people are inherently superior to all other races, especially the black race, and should therefore dominate society.

[00:13:49]It's also the social, economic, and political systems that collectively enable white people to maintain power over people of other races. And these white nationalists have already used their religious beliefs to bully and discriminate against doctors and nurses to claim exemption from a wide array of services. They've discriminated against and bullied institutions who don't follow their brand of Christianity. And as a political movement, white Christian nationalism got its start as the white citizens councils. It got its start in 1954 and it was also influenced by the ideas of George Lincoln Rockwell, the founder of the American Nazi party. And for years, the group attracted highlevel politicians to speak at their meetings, which were similar to Rotary Club events, but it was decorated with Confederate flags and marked by racist speeches. Senate Majority Leader Trent Lot of Mississippi spoke to the group several times, once telling its members that they stand for the right principles and the right philosophy. Now, the religion of whiteness, also known as white nationalism, is a term that originated among white supremacists as a euphemism for white supremacy. And eventually some white supremacists tried to distinguish it further by using it to refer to a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country or region by white racial identity. And it also seeks to promote the interest of whites exclusively, typically at the expense of people of other backgrounds. They teach that whiteness is a normative hierarchy with whiteness at the top and everyone else below them. They demand policies ranging from stricter controls on immigration to wholesale ethnic cleansing and even genocide. All of this is often tied to the fear of white genocide or white replacement theory, the notion that the white race is being squeezed out of existence through its own low birth rate, mixed race marriages, and a more prolific reproduction by non-white people. It's also defined as a type of pan nationalism which exposes the belief that white people are a race and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity. They want to ensure that the white race survives as well as the culture of historically white states. They also want to make sure that people in majority white countries maintain their political and economic dominance and that their cultures, their white culture should be first and foremost. We see that today in Florida with Ron DeSantis passing laws against teaching AP African-American history. Some people like to say that the color of Jesus doesn't matter. If that statement is true, why was the true color of Jesus changed to a white man with blonde hair when in the Bible Daniel 7:9 and Revelation 1:14:16 says what he looks like. Now that the truth is coming out more and more, now people want to say it doesn't matter. We have to seriously look at the impact of these thought processes. Throughout history, the portrayal of Jesus as white has been deeply ingrained in western culture, perpetuated through art, literature, and religious iconography.

[00:17:01]This image, however, carries profound implications, particularly for black people and communities. The pervasive representation of a white Jesus has not only shaped perceptions of divinity, but has also [music] contributed to the systemic marginalization and psychological harm experienced by black people. The historical context of depicting Jesus as white traces back to European colonialism and imperialism, where the dominant powers sought to reinforce their cultural and racial superiority.

[00:17:31]Through artistic depictions [music] and religious teachings, the image of a white Jesus was weaponized to justify the subjugation and exploitation of Africans and black Americans. This portrayal served to reinforce the notion of white supremacy and validate the oppressive structures that upheld it.

[00:17:48]For black individuals, the omnipresence of a white Jesus [music] has had profound psychological consequences.

[00:17:55]From a young age, many are indoctrinated into a worldview where divinity is exclusively associated with whiteness.

[00:18:02]This erasure of blackness from the divine not only perpetuates feelings of inferiority, but also reinforces the notion of white as the standard of beauty, virtue, and worthiness. As a result, black individuals may internalize these damaging beliefs, leading to feelings of inadequacy, self-doubt, and alienation from their own cultural and spiritual heritage.

[00:18:23]Also, the portrayal of Jesus as white has played a significant role in the erasure of black history and spirituality. By centering whiteness in religious narratives, the contributions and experiences of black figures within Christianity are often overlooked. This perpetuates a cycle of cultural amnesia where black people are systematically disconnected from their ancestral roots and denied access to a complete understanding of their identity and faith.

[00:18:48]The impact of white Jesus imagery extends beyond individual psychology, influencing broader social dynamics and power structures. The worship of a white divine figure reinforces racial hierarchies and justifies the continued oppression of black communities. It perpetuates a narrative where whiteness is synonymous with righteousness and blackness is equated with inferiority and sinfulness.

[00:19:12]Despite centuries of conditioning, thankfully, there is a growing movement within black communities to reclaim and recontextualize the image of Jesus. From the afroentric interpretations of Christ to the celebration of black liberation theology, there is a recognition of the need to decolonize spirituality and embrace a more empowering representation of divinity. By challenging white Jesus imagery, black individuals and communities are reclaiming agency over their spirituality and asserting their inherent worth and dignity.

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