In criminal trials, when a judge improperly denies a legally sufficient motion to disqualify themselves due to bias, the burden shifts to the state to prove that the error was harmless beyond a reasonable doubt; if the state fails to address the controlling legal standards or provide meaningful legal analysis, the court should grant a new trial. The cumulative effect of multiple trial errors—including improper jury instructions, exclusion of defense witnesses, and biased jurors—can overwhelm the fairness of the trial and warrant a new trial.
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So, would I be foolish to come in here and tell y'all she I think she may have a chance to walk.
Y'all like, "Sweet be na, if you don't go and go have several seats in a corner coming in here with that bull with that bull."
I know. I know. I know. Y'all know I'm off the wall. So, in round, we are now in round three. And this is important round three because just to start off, y'all know we got something big coming tomorrow.
We thought something big did not something We thought nothing happened when they cancelled the live stream of the hearing. We didn't get to see it, but that don't mean things didn't happen.
So, we got a hearing that's going to be scheduled for on tomorrow, the 22nd. And from all the counts from everything that I see because I they text me at 9:30.
Let me see. Every night at 9:30 they let me know. I done signed up for some reminders. And one time when the first reminder came through my phone, I was like court. I I ain't got no damn court.
Somebody using my name. But nobody used my name. It was just I signed up a text alerts for that trial. So, her hearing is supposed to be at 8:30 in the morning.
Okay. So, for all that counts, and from what I heard, um, it will be streamed live. So, I don't have any doubt that it won't be streamed live because I heard why they didn't stream the last one live. But anyhoo, you say they better not keep us waiting.
I hope not. So, what we going to talk about is that the state, we know that they had their response. And if you guys have not um watched our round two with all the documents how we reviewed them, please, please, please um look in the description box. We have um round one and two in the description box. Um let me make sure they are in there. So today we're going to be going over round three and what we should probably expect tomorrow in the hearing for the new update. Even if they don't I guess if they don't let us in. I can't imagine that they're not going to let us in considering all the everything that surrounds this case. Um but who knows? We never know. So right here we have um this is the defense's motion. Now they like, "Okay, like I told y'all, this is the battle of the motions.
So we fighting in motions legally. I promise you there's no whopper with a chopper. There is no beads. There is none of that up in this motion. Nothing like that will happen. Nobody will lose their life." Uh, I guess maybe I don't know. Maybe somebody might lose their life. They might be in behind bars, but it's gonna be behind bars kind of like.
So, nothing nothing more, nothing less there. Okay, so let's get into this. What we have here, and just so everybody sees it, um, her new judge is Kimberly Fernandez.
That's just an update. Um, this motion was filed on April the 10th, 2026, guys.
So, a little bit over a month ago.
Remember, her hearing was supposed to be last week. I think they did do something. We just didn't get to see it.
So, here we go. We have um defendants reply to state's response to motion to reconsider previous pre-trial and trial rulings and second amendment amended motion for judgment of a quiddle notwithstanding the verdict and slashmotion for a new trial. So this is the response that the defense gave to the state.
Okay, listen.
This this this response from from what I've heard, I have not read it. Y'all know I don't read nothing.
I read it with y'all. [ __ ] That that's enough. So, but I heard through the great vine through waves that this was the bomb.
So it says the state's response reads like less like a legal brief and more like a closing argument to the jury that already deliberated. Whoa.
Talk about a shot fired. They like [ __ ] this [ __ ] don't this ain't even a legal brief. This like a closing argument.
We're not doing closings against state.
We need you to stay on top of and we need you to address this. What are you talking about?
Hm.
They saying they they recited everything verbatim from the trial testimony, pre-trial rulings, and transfer excerpts that filled 22 pages. You know, they start with 22 22 pages.
And with all those 22 pages, the state avoided all the legal questions that were actually before the court. Like they wrote 22 pages of nothing. All they did was recite stuff from the court.
What happened in the pre-trial hearings?
That ain't what nobody asked you, state of Florida.
We asked you to address the real issues that were at hand.
Starting off, the bias judge, what do you mean? Y'all didn't address none of this stuff. 22 pages of nothing. All right. Gotcha.
So, it offers no meaningful shot fired.
I need a I need a shots fired on my thing.
YouTube probably like, uh-uh. No, boo.
You You can't do that much. But in I got it says look it offers no meaningful legal analysis of why those rulings survive the scrutiny under the governing standards. Now that the a disqualified judge rulings are subject to reconsideration under Florida rule of general practice and judicial administration.
And it never once mentions they dcastro so they mention in the um thing the controlling case that governs the court's analysis on the motion for the new trial. So they like y'all didn't address anything. All y'all did was reiterate [ __ ] we already knew. Don't nobody need that.
Go stay.
This a go state. You don't even know what you talking about. Address what we trying to get you to address.
So that the admissions is not an oversight. It's a concessions. Okay. So this is they and they saying the Castro um holds that when an appellet court finds a disqualification motion legally sufficient at the second district court of appeal did in this case. Remember the judge didn't take herself off the case. She was like, "No, I'm not biased. I ain't thinking about none of that stuff. Y'all don't know what y'all doing and I'm not here to teach you how to be a lawyer."
So, with that being said, this is how it's going to go down because the judge was something else.
Like, she was the judge, the jury, the prosecutor, and the defense. As far as I was concerned, she didn't stand a chance either way, at least in that court room, in my opinion, the judge Cisco wasn't happy. But with that being said, so they saying this this is erroneous um denial of that motion, right? She shouldn't even denied it. She should have looked at it and seen, well, maybe I could have made some different maybe I am invested in this. Maybe I am a little too biased. Maybe she ain't like one of the attorneys. Y'all remember when she checked, "Oh, girl, she was like, you've been have been making faces throughout this entire trial." And yes, I'm going to report it. Y'all remember that, you know, with Alicia Andrews. I want to call her the look alike, the lookalike attorney.
So, we had that issue.
So, we got that going on.
And so and the burden falls on the state because remember the burden shifts to the state and they have to prove why there was no harmless error. Okay?
And the state never attempts to carry that burden. It cannot. Judge Cisco made multiple multiple we seen them rulings that shape the outcome of the trial.
Remember the way a trial um is handled is based off of what comes in, what stays out. Remember, we just watch the trial. What comes in, what goes out, it makes the you know the legal findings and rulings and the motion and lemonies, all those things make the case. It makes or breaks your case. Okay.
So judge and it's just saying that she made multiple rulings that shape the outcome of this trial and not one of them can be insulated from this from the recons consideration by the volume of the transcript the state pa paste into his response. So they stay with the stuff that they just pasted into the I mean it's no comparison. Okay.
It says this court should grant Miss Andrews a new trial. The second district district's recent decision in penny versus state confirms that the mere presence principle drawn from state statin wait statin versus state I don't know is is an active and inforeseeable limitation on the principal liability in the district one that a standard jury instruction does not stand it alone adequately adequately convey to the jury. I don't know. I don't know if I want to. Okay.
Convey to the jury. Then they reference this the um the um what is this? Let me put this in front of me. I can't read it right there. I'm I'm reaching over to read.
Okay. I should have been had it on my my big screen. Okay. Here we go. Um so this penny versus um state it that's what they represent. Um and it's saying reversing the conviction on a principal liability where evidence showed defendant was present at the scene but state failed to prove conscience intent that a crime be committed that a crime be committed. Reaffirming a mere presence, including driving the perpetrator, to and from the scene, is insignificant to establish principal liability. So, basically, it's saying with this penny versus state, this is a new, this is a recent decision, and they're basically saying in this that the evidence showed the defendant was present at the scene. So, Alicia Andrew, she was present at the scene, I guess, quote unquote, right? But the the state failed to prove her intent. And that's the same thing that happened with Alicia. Like they they can't prove that she wanted she knew that they were going to unalio. They can't prove that she knew the intent of the other being there with her in the car. They can't prove these things, right? And they said and and reaffirming that the mere presence.
So even if you reaffirming all of this, even if she drove them to the scene and to and from the scene, it was insignificant to establish the principal liability. Guys, they didn't prove that. They can't prove that on her. They I They can't prove that because remember, she kept saying she didn't know.
So, they can't really prove that, can they? Or am I missing something?
I could be missing some things.
You have to tell me.
So what they what they what they're trying to say um when we talk about this first part of this legal argument is that the appeals court had already ruled that the disqualifiation motion against Judge Cisco was legally sufficient right and they saying that you know of course it's back in the state's hands. So, just recapping this page of what we're doing. And it's the state is not attempting to do that, y'all, at all in any way. So, I want to know from you guys, should a new judge reconsider all the rulings? Should Judge Kimberly Hernandez reconsider all these rulings? Put a one in the chat if you think she should, cuz I don't know what she's going to be doing tomorrow. Now, little birdie told me we got sentencing tomorrow. So, I don't know.
So, put a one in the chat. Should a new judge reconsider all the rulings?
I'm curious to know what you guys think.
CCGTV said, "Yep, she surely should."
Susie said, "Look, I'm lurking." Hi, everybody. I can't put a one in the chat, but I'mma type all this [ __ ] in here about I'm lurking.
What's up, Susie Q?
She say I'm lurking.
You say you would? Yeah, I think that she should. So, so the culpable negligence manslaughter instruction, remember this is another issue because they gave this instruction and I really think the jur the jury was like, "Look, we don't think she guilty of premeditated murder." Like, she didn't go down there and redrum them.
No, she didn't do that. That's not what she was doing. She was not going to do a 187.
She was with her boo. She was not part of the crew, y'all. Y'all better remember the rhymes. You remember the rhymes, you can make the right decision.
The jury just split the baby in my opinion and was like, "Okay, we going to do this."
So now giving over defense objection with zero evidentiary support handed a the jury a vehicle it should never have had the exclusion of defense witness Jordan and Robinson. Remember those were the two people that were going to testify in regards to the DB. Boom boom boom that part. Um who had personal knowledge of the abuse that they witnessed. They were denied that opportunity.
Miss Andrews relevant evidence on the central factual dispute. And let's not even talk about and juror number six, a state legislator whose professional career was dedicated to enhance criminal sentencing. So he like, she got to get something. He was back here in the jury room like something got to happen.
I don't know. Did he make I don't know if he made it on the jury. I can't remember. I think he didn't.
Um he openly stated in that he could not set aside the legislative experience, right? He was like, "Shit, that's my life. I've been doing that. If I take that away, then I have nothing.
Nothing.
So cannot be rehabilitated by reciting the words I can be fair. So he says he cannot set aside his legislative experience. But then he says you know but I can be fair. Ah no I'm cool. And responds to the court's questioner. So you know they ask him about can you be fair impartial? can you listen to the can you listen to the court's instruction? And everybody like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." And they get back there and they can't. So there we go.
So that's that.
So let's see here.
Leading questions by trial court and jurors eventually eventual agreement that he could be fair and insufficient to erase the reasonable doubt created by earlier expressions of bias.
The state's response to each of these issues follows the same pattern. Recite what happened. Assert the ruling was correct when we feel that it was wrong because remember we got a biased judge.
Um that it is not harmless error analysis and of course the state doing everything they can do because they don't want to try this trial over, right? This is not engagement with the legal standards and this court should treat it accordingly. Okay. Okay. All right. Okay.
Argument. So the state never addresses the controlling harmless error framework and has therefore conceded the central legal question.
So they saying they just going around the bush. They they they they ain't doing nothing. They just over there chatting and copying and pasting a whole bunch of stuff that we already know.
That's not the issue here. how we fix it. How we fix it. Don't keep telling me that this was harmless error when I'm clearly blatantly telling you that it is. So that's what the defense is saying. Like don't keep telling us that it's harmless error. I mean to be fair, like how could it not be? If they wouldn't have got the verdict that they wanted, I'm I'm almost sure I think the state could have could appeal.
I think they probably would have appealed.
Yeah.
So, the second district court of appeal did not merely agree that Miss Andrews had a billing about Judge Cisco. It found her motion to disqualify legally sufficient.
A determination that the facts allege would cause a reasonable, prudent person, right? A well-rounded person. Remember, they put all the Court TV, they put uh Instagram, they put anything that they can put in there about not just Alicia Andrews feeling that way, not just Alicia Andrews defense team feeling that way, not her family just feeling that way. We It was nationwide, right? This was televised nationwide and everybody had something to say about Judge Cisco in this case.
So, the state can't relitigate it here by arguing again that every ruling that Judge Cisco made was correct and appropriate.
Uh, no. We don't accept that. What the state can argue, but let me tell you what they can argue. Oh, I like that.
They said what they can argue. We gonna tell you how to argue this [ __ ] state is that the erroneous erroneous denial of the legal sufficient disqualification motion was harmless. And then that's where they're talking about this Dcastro versus fate. Must be a good case that came up, huh? Cuz they doing all their work with regards to that. The appellet court found that reversible error where the trial judge like a judge Cisco erroneously denied a legal legally sufficient disqualification motion and subsequently made consequential I can't talk today rulings that could have altered the outcome of the trial.
ID It says the court could the court found the state could not overcome harmless error analysis and order a new trial.
Okay. So that's that's in a dcastro one, right? Hm.
The state the state's response does not site the diccastro.
It does not even attempt a harmless error analysis. It does not even explain how any single ruling much less all of them cumulatively right all together was harmless beyond a reasonable doubt.
Hm. The state's silence on the controlling case is not a gap to be filled at an oral argument. It is forefeenture.
This court should treat it as such and proceed to the merits of Miss Andrew's entitlement to relieve. Go ahead and walk out of there, Alicia.
Maybe she'll walk tomorrow. Can she walk tomorrow?
Maybe she'll walk tomorrow. Maybe she can Maybe she can walk it on out. Walk it out. She might walk it out.
So they said, you know, Alicia was convicted simply for being in the car, being around the other defendants, and allegedly act acting as a lookout.
But you know, I mean, we know it's no proof that she fired a weapon.
And the defense is saying that the jury should have been told that that being a present alone is not enough for guilt.
And remember, they were denied that.
That's a big appeal issue.
Like I feel like if the jury was instructed wrong, that's that's bad. So it's more about presence versus intent intentional participation. And that's huge.
So in the states theory, they just saying, hey, the definition of mere presence, look, the standard instruction tells the jury what a principal is, not what a principal is not. And I think that you need to have both sides of the coin. And so I think that when we look at this, and I know we talk about legally and what came into court, guys.
But walk here with me. If she really didn't know what they were doing, does being present make someone actually guilty when you don't don't know what happened? Remember, remember from her testimony, you can put a one in the chat if you think so.
If she was just down there and she she didn't hear over here no conversations with Isaiah Chance. Um she didn't hear any of those things. She he was using her phone. She didn't know it. Cuz remember I told you either Alicia Andrews has to be awfully stupid.
Right.
To not know these things or Yeah. Or Yeah. She got to be still stupid. Like she still got to be that way. H Yeah, I think so. Because I don't think it's no way. Well, yeah. She got to really like like know not like trust him or she got to really have BB issues or something where she's afraid where she doesn't ask him any questions about anything because I mean it could be very well possible and I know nobody wants to see a innocent person go to jail. We can all agree upon that, right?
So, if she truly was just down there with Chance and Chance was really aggressive with her and she really wanted to spend time with him for whatever of her reasons were, she really wanted to spend time with him, right?
And she didn't know he was on this 187.
She never had to get out the car. She might have thought they was looking for a party or whatever they were looking for when they was riding in the hotel parking lot.
She didn't she may have not knew and they were she just said that, you know, she just heard she heard shots fired, right? But she didn't she was unaware that it was anybody from her camp or anybody that she was with that did it. I mean, the guy that she came down there with, Isaiah Chance, he right there next to her. to her boo right there. So, I mean, why would she think that anybody else was out there redruming somebody?
T says, "Shit, I believe she knew what was going down.
I got you." So, I think it was I think it I think it was a compromise verdict argument and the defense, you know, they did argue this, right? Um, the manslaughter instruction never should have been given to the gone to the jury, right? I don't know if they should have I don't know how they even agreed on manslaughter because it don't even seem like it makes the whole thing, but it it is what it is. So, let's see here.
So, the denial of the special jury instructions requires a new trial right there. Like if the jury is instructed wrong, how do we know we got the correct verdict? Maybe they how do we know that? I think that just if the jury instructions are wrong and if another court finds that these juries jury instructions wrong, then I think that I mean garbage in, garbage out, right? Y'all know that term, garbage in, garbage out.
So the state's entire response to the special jury instruction issue is this.
the standard principle instruction which was adequate. So then they they cite Peters versus state said so in a similar case that is the whole of it. So, it's the entirety. The state does not apply the threepart test from Stevens versus State. Another case that they're citing, at least they citing these cases. They giving you the cases, baby, where they getting this stuff like the state just just reciting [ __ ] from the damn trial that we already know that we feel it was incorrect.
Don't be telling me stuff that we already know when I already told you that I got a problem with everything that happened. That don't make good sense.
So, It does not address the penny versus state now a case from this very district. So it happened right there where all this stuff is going on. Now this was decided weeks before the trial that validates the precise language in mi Miss Andrew's request.
So, they just had a new case that was in the, you know, case law that just happened and it had the exact terminology that Judge Cisco should have used in Alicia Andrews case that she did not. And it does not explain how the standard instructions adequately covered a defense theory that the state spent two weeks attacking in trial.
So the Stevens test requires that a special instruction be granted when one the instruction is supported by the evidence. Two, the standard instruction does not adequately cover the theory of the defense. And three, the instruction is correct is is a correct statement of law. Stevens. Now that's the threep prrong.
Oh, all three prongs are satisfied here.
So, that's a issue, right?
First, the evidence supported the instruction. The state's own witnesses established that Miss Andrews was present in the vehicle. Okay, they talking about, you know, from all the data and the camera, them driving through the McDonald's, you know, all that stuff.
was not identified as firing a any weapon and did not communicate with the codefendants who were not her boyfriend.
So she don't know nothing about what Sean did. She don't know nothing about what thing one did. She don't know what thing two did. She don't know them.
She know Sean, you know, from every once in a while, you know, going around the house, but she don't know them other guys. She don't know what they was up to and what they was doing.
So the state theory of the case is that Miss Andrews was a lookout and a spotter. She was the back door queen is the definition of mere presence.
Right? Do y'all agree with that? when we read the definition of what they had in that that portion of it cuz they saying that she was just a lookout in the spotter and is that that's the definition of that mere presence. The instruction was not a legal abstraction. It was a direct response to the state's evidence.
Second, the standard principal instruction does not cover this theory. It tells the jury what a principle is. It does not tell the jury what a principal is not.
Without the requested language, the jury had no instruction explaining that being in the car, driving to the location, or learning about a crime after the fact does not standing alone establish criminal intent.
So then they site the fourth district, Perkins versus State, the failure to give requested instruction on a key defense theory where the evidence supports it is reversible error. So I mean it just seemed like she you I mean it is what it is now. If they didn't do it right, then they ain't do it right.
So, and remember the manslaughter instructions never should have been gone to the jury is what their defense is arguing here.
And so they saying with with both of them, they knew that the jury was like, "Well, [ __ ] she did something.
We don't believe she's stupid.
We don't think she did premeditated murder. She didn't go down there to do a 187.
She went down there to be with her boo.
So they compromised and that's why they came back with manslaughter.
Okay.
Third, the instructions were correct.
The instructions were correct statement of the law. They were drawn verbatim from binding case law. The state does not argue otherwise. So I mean the defense was bringing in some stuff that was already written up, ready to go, locked and loaded. like it was no [ __ ] that they just went back there and made up.
The state citation to Peters is not responsive. Okay, so they must have had Peters and everything. I can't remember everything that they had in there, but they must have cited that.
Address a proposed instruction that added nothing. D.
The defense is cold blooded.
They like even when you tried to site some [ __ ] it didn't even mean nothing.
It didn't add no value to none of this stuff in here to the standard charge in that case.
Here the requested language addressed a gap. The standard instruction does not fill the distinction between the presence of and participation and that gap was the central battleground of the trial.
Of course, Judge Cisco denied the instruction without providing any legal basis. She remarked that if there were a conviction, the second district would tell her otherwise. That is not a ruling. Okay. She like, "Well, if I ain't putting it in there, but if she convicted and [ __ ] the the I mean, look, the court of appeals just going to have to let me know that I did something wrong." that is not a legal ruling like she's supposed to say this case right here um that we have you know in our law books or whatever the case may be this is what we have to show this is how we supposed to handle this she like look we going to do what we do right here right now in the moment I'm sending this to the jury with what we got and if hey if the court of appeals in the second district decide that it was wrong then let them handle it and they can tell me then all right that's no legal basis. Just don't say nothing.
That is crazy. The second district should and likely will tell her otherwise. And this court should not wait for that result when it can grant the appropriate relief now. So yeah, basically what I just said, she was like, uh-uh, I'm not waiting.
So, the defense is openly arguing that the verdict itself makes no logical sense.
And this goes back to the same thing that the jury just used it to compromise. I I I believe that.
Okay.
So here the state argues that culpable negligence is a standard category one lesser included offense of firstdegree murder and therefore its inclusion was appropriate.
That is true as a matter of taxomy.
It is irrelevant as a matter of evidence. A lesser included offense instruction is only appropriate when there is evidence to support it. State versus Wimmbley Wimberly.
There was none here. So they didn't have any evidence of um the lesser included that they included. The state's theory from the indictment to the closer argument was that Miss Andrews intentionally intentionally conspired in a premeditated murder.
There was no theory of an accident, no theory of recklessness, no evidence of being negligent that caused the death of Mr. Charles Jones, Julio Julio.
The state put on six days of text testimony to prove that Miss Andrews knew what was going to going to happen and chose.
You see how they I see they they they when they want to express like deep words like new right here. Y'all see how that is?
Chose. These are key words in this to participate.
And that's what they did for six days basically, right? That they they act like she was with the crew. Well, she was with the setup crew. Put a one in the chat. Y'all think she was with the crew? Y'all can't think she was with the crew. Y'all don't think she was with the crew.
Talk to me. Please tell me. Y'all don't think she was with the crew, do y'all?
Oh yeah, Rockstar all the way down with Hey Rockstar. He all the way down with Alicia.
I don't think she was with the crew.
I don't think she was with the crew. I think she was with her boo.
I do think that she knew some things afterwards.
I do think those things That's what I can tell you.
This is um this the defense motion. Um Rockstar and hello to anybody else that I haven't said. I can't I can see the comments but I can't see them unless I stop reading and then I can see them kind of sorter. I can't escar.
Hold on. One was being with the crew.
Yeah, I think one is she Okay. One is she was with the crew.
Let's start it over. One, you thought she was with the crew because I don't I really don't think she was with the crew.
I think she was with her boo. And I think that stuff went down and she was down for her boo and she was like, "Look, I got you.
Stand by your man."
She was just standing by her man like she wasn't going to be no snitch for her boo. CCGTV. I don't know what the hell three mean. What three mean? You tell me the meaning of three.
The boo was with the crew that But that don't mean she was with the crew. I don't think she was with the crew.
I think I think she knew some stuff afterwards, but by that time it was done and over with. I don't know what you do with that.
And remember the state's entire case was they were saying Alicia was plotting and scheming and that's why they brought in those text messages from four years ago saying Julio must die.
What the what?
When they seen that text message, they probably thought they was cooking with hot damn fish grease. They was like, "Oh, she is done. She is cooked."
And they got that to come in, but it shouldn't probably came in, right? And that was just trying to show like she has some reason to unalive fool y'all.
But it just sound like girls chitchatting and talking or you know, just chatting.
So, the jury's verdict reflects exactly what happens when a court gives an instruction that has no evidentiary foundation. The jury uses it to reach a compromise. The jury acquitted Miss Andrews of the first degree murder, seconddegree murder, and conspiracy finding in effect that the state failed to prove she acted with criminal intent.
Having made that finding, the jury should have acquitted entirely. They should have threw that out out the window and let her walk. How about that?
H.
So, I say up under Florida's rule of criminal procedure three, the court acts as a safety vow. It may grant a new trial where the evidence is technically sufficient, but the weight of the evidence does not support the verdict.
And then they fight some more cases here.
The standard is met here. The weight of the evidence, including the jury's own acquitt on the ev every intentional offense, demonstrates that manslaughter conviction, premise on culpable negligence cannot stand.
That's basically what they saying.
Wow.
So, now let's get to our witnesses that we did try to provide that she decided that she didn't want to let in.
The state spends considerable space. Y'all see how they word that? The state spends considerable space out of their 22 pages addressing [ __ ] that addressing stuff that they don't need to be addressing. Defending Judge Cisco's repeated explan explanations of why duress is not a defense to homicide in Florida. The argument misses the whole entire point deliberately.
It appears like they didn't even want to address it. Jeremy or whoever wrote this up said, "Look, they didn't even want to address it, but they spent all this time on it, but they didn't address what the what the actual problem was."
The defense like, "We don't know how many times that we got to tell you this."
The defense never saw a duress instruction. That's not what we asked for.
Defense council stated this explicitly on the record multiple times and I know we got it live one time when he did.
I never asked for a duress jury instruction. I do not intend to ask for a duress jury instruction.
They say, "Look, look at the trial transcript. 2482 to 2,483."
Dang, that's a lot of a lot of pages.
Good grief.
The state's persistent framing of domestic violence evidence as a duress defense was a straw man.
Y'all know what a straw man is, right?
They arguing. They arguing stuff that you ain't even argue. They they doing extra stuff and it remains here. Like they still arguing that the defense is asking for the rest. And they like, "How many times we got to tell you? You done did all this stuff in this 22page document arguing. We ain't even argue.
We didn't ask for that. So why are you denying it based upon some stuff that we didn't ask?" Whoa.
Jewel Juel Jordan and Jayla Robinson were not offered to testify about Miss Andrew's state of mind. They were offered to testify about what they have personally witnessed.
So in regards to the acts of physical violence between her and Isaiah Chance, Miss Andrews, you know that is a fact testimony. It is admissible. It is relevant to the nature of the relationship. The state placed at the center of this case, right? Because remember the state said, "Look, she was so cuckoo for cocoa cuffs about Isaiah Ch. She would do any and everything for her man. She was out here on a for my man mission and she was trying to be a TV1 SPECIAL." OH, Y'ALL Y'ALL THINK TV1 GONNA MAKE A SPECIAL out of this?
Probably not.
Probably not. Dang. TV1, let me know if you going to do a special. I would like to know.
So they saying that this is why you know they based it off of their relationship, right?
So they saying having argued that Miss Andrew's particip participation participation I can't talk in the murder plot was born entirely of her devotion to chance. I knew it. Her devotion to chance. Jordan and Robertson's testimony would have rebutted that Rosie relationship. Okay. So, they wanted to bring them in to show the DB and show that they had issues and like their relationship was not that perfect. Okay.
And she was just not walking in his footsteps and he didn't walk on water.
Okay.
So, Judge Cisco collapsed the distin distinction between what a witness can establish that the abuse occurred. That the abuse occurred, okay, and what only Miss Andrews could establish, right? Her subjective state of mind on the given day. That is not a law. A witness may testify to facts within her personal knowledge and then they cite something site some Florida code, right? statute.
Um the question of what interference the jury draws from those facts is for the jury. Okay? Because they the factf finders by excluding these witnesses entirely. The court denied the defense for okay. So they wanted to corroborate this evidence on a factual dispute that the state created. So the the state had was trying to present it like she did this for my man. And so the defense wanted to present their witnesses not so much in regards to her state of mind on that day, but that just to kind of show that they had a rocky relationship and kind of where Miss Andrews might have been. So that's that.
And so and then they talk about the the denial for cause for um challenge against juror number six. And y'all know that the defense focuses on the erroneous erroneous denial of the cause challenge, right? For juror number six, this is the, you know, he's the one that was out here and he has been an advocate for giving harsher sentences.
He is the advocate for crime, right?
So the state's response to the juror number six argument is that he said that he could be fair and the state relies on the same case mentioned by judge Cisco Fleming versus state arguing that a juror's formation of opinion does not automatically disqualify him. That is an incomplete statement of law and it ignores the prejudice prong entirely.
Okay? Okay. And we went through that prong earlier um in our when we were discussing. Let me see here.
Wow. Oh, we do. You think that the jury should have heard about the about the abuse testimony?
>> I'm just curious. Really? I worried about this um what's her name?
Do y'all think that Do y'all think that the def You think they should have heard about that her abuse testimony?
Because I mean they did try to paint it like it was some something really special going on between her and Isaiah Chance and like she was out here like boooo the fool. But that could explain her mindset and what she thought about things, right?
I think so. I think that's fair.
They saying juror number six was a former state legislator who personally sponsored and campaign and championed sentencing enhancement. Dang. Built 40,000 more prison beds. Gee we do not want this person on your doggo jury.
Oh no.
He sponsored a amendment to bring back chain gangs.
He acknowledged his passion for making criminals serve their time. He say if you do the crime, you gonna do the time.
Gosh, he is responsible for making 40,000 more beds. He say we gonna get that sweat equity.
He said they going to get all that sweat equity. Let me get 40 morek of these beds. Put them all in here. Slam the door.
Wow.
A juror whose professional life was dedicated to putting people in prison longer in a case where a life sentence was a genuine possibility presents more than a reasonable doubt to impart impartiality.
Oh wow. The standard instruction that he recites the words I can be fair does not erase that record.
I would not want nobody on my jury pool like that. Like, oh my god. I don't know what kind of trials he can do. He probably shouldn't ever sit on the jury.
I don't think he should ever be able to sit on the jury.
Wow.
So, Miss Andrews was forced to use one of her pre prempatory challenges. Oh, so she had to strike this juror number six and they saying that the judge should have did this herself. Like there's no reason why. And was compelled to accept juror number 62, a juror who affirmatively stated during the Vardier process that he could not understand rap. So they said they had to use one of their strikes to uh strike uh juror number six and they they had to use a juror who said that they don't even understand rap lyrics. Like they had to settle for somebody that don't even understand rap lyrics just to get rid of this guy that say he building jails and beds so y'all can try them if you want to. And they saying the judge should have did that then that way they could have got rid of this person that don't know nothing about no rap lyrics.
A juror who self-identifies as unable to process the meaning of that evidence is not a juror Miss Andrews should have had been forced to accept.
Wow.
The state repeatedly complains that the defense failed to support its factual assertions with record evidence.
However, the state fails to acknowledge that when the defense filed its timely motion for reconsideration due 30 days after the order granting the defense writ of prohibition, the trials transcripts had not been yet transcribed.
The receipts have since come in and under sign council did in fact identify additional cause challenges that were denied resulting in the waste wasted use of Miss Andrews strikes. Right, Miss Mr. Mcccleman, we've asked for other cause challenges that were denied. Had we not been denied those other cause challenges, we would have had some pre-exemporatory strikes to strike Mr. I don't know. I'm going to take his I ain't going to say his name for example.
Okay, for number six and that I mean Okay, so this is the transcript.
So the motion to reconsider pre-trial rulings is proper before this court to the extent those rulings affected the fairness of the trial. Now, although Miss Andrews believes Judge Cisco by she by by allowing the jury to hear and see evidence of uncharged crimes, the Jacksonville gang wars, the music videos, etc. That is far from the core of Miss Andrew's request here. Miss Andrew's brief includes two sentences about the irrelevant and pre prejuditial evidence that Judge Cisco allowed into the trial. However, the state goes to considerable lengths through multiple pages. Boy, they definitely talk about these pages and all this extra stuff that the state is doing to argue that this court should not reconsider Judge Cisco's pre-trial rulings issued on December the 19th, 2024. To be clear, Miss Andrews request for the court to reconsider these pre-trial rulings pertains to the rulings that were also revisited during the trial, such as the rulings ruling to exclude witness testimony. Yeah, we watched this hearing on December the 19th.
No, we didn't. Did we watch that? I don't think we watched that. I know they had a hearing December the 19th.
Maybe we did see that hearing. I can't remember we seen that hearing or not.
Hey, real happy. How are you?
So then they go into conclusion. Okay.
So we can wrap it up. The state file a 22page response which largely avoids the permanent permanent questions before this court. The main issue here is that the second district court of appeals found that disqualification motion legally suspicion, right? And then he quotes the Dcastro makes it clear that a new trial is required unless the state can demonstrate harmless error. The state never tried. Judge Cisco improperly denied the defense request for special jury instructions.
The couple ne negligence charge had no evidence foundation and should not even been given to the jury. Defense witness with personal relevant knowledge were excluded.
The biased juror sat on the panel.
These are not close calls dressed up as judgment calls. There are errors individually, reversible, cumulatively overwhelming.
So I guess because it's not just one, it's multiple ones that makes it more, you know, like damaging in regards to this. So, um, so the the the I mean I guess I you know I guess when you put everything I don't know how you get a fair trial with um multiple things happening. Now, maybe if it was just one thing, you know, maybe the juror strikes, maybe if it was just that, then okay, we can we can talk about it. But when you you talk about action upon action upon action, it's like all these egregious things that's happening like, well, no, no, no, we need to do something different.
So, what I found, guys, is that on the day that we were supposed to have the hearing, let me show y'all this. I won't I'm not going through this entire document. That's what I can tell you.
I will not. And she'll not I I wouldn't even be able to read it all. I wouldn't be able to read this mess at all. I I I would Yeah, it wouldn't happen. It's 37 pages and and it is really probably no reason to read it anyways because it's just a whole bunch of um you can see the cases.
So on May the 8th, 2026 um the defense did a motion um to take judicial judicial notice. Okay, guys.
So, what this means, what this means for us, and this is why I said, "Damn, is she going to be able to walk tomorrow?"
So, the the the court, the defense is saying, "Hey, even before we go to our hearing on May the 22nd, we want you to be on notice. We going to send this. We filed this May 8th, um, 2026. So, when whenever the hearing happens on the 22nd, we we want to put this so you can start reading it. Go ahead and start reading this. Um, Judge Fernandez, honorable Judge Fernandez.
So, they cited all the prior appealant rulings, um, prior trial rulings and the procedural history without needing to reprove them all over again. Right? So, they're basically building the foundation to argue this entire trial was affected the defense is trying to connect all the rulings together instead of treating them like isolated mistakes. So that's why when you see on this forum they got about eight cases that they they site.
So it's the cumulative effect of all these judge Cisco rulings.
It permits a successor judge to reconsider prior rulings.
So they filed no this notice um which has the rulings and stuff in there and what they did on this case. And the defense is just basically So they saying in this judicial notice they telling Judge Hernandez that look hey other people have been charged with serious homicide crimes in Florida and got better outcomes than Alicia Andrews.
Um, that's the entire point of this notice. They are showing that because, you know, I think that was another reason why they didn't want this to go to just Cisco because she already appeared to be biased and they're like, "Okay, if it go to her, she probably going to give her 30 years when it should only be 10." You know, like give her the max of the max.
So, they're showing in this motion right here all the old cases, um, manslaughter plea deals, probation outcomes, and reduced charges to argue that Alicia may be getting treated harsher than others.
So, this does not mean like this is new evidence or anything. It just means that the defense wants the judge to officially recognize these old court cases as real legal records. So when Judge Hernandez is looking at this, kind of like giving her a basis of a guideline um in regards to how to kind of if if you going to sentence her, if we not going to get a new trial, if you are going to sentence her, let's make sure we do it accordingly. She doesn't have any priors. She has a baby. She a young girl, let's make sure we do this accordly, right? So that's why I was like, hm, she may be able to walk. They may be able to just tell her, hey, you got probation. You know, she got a lot of mitigating factors. She I don't I don't see any she not in the game. So they don't have no aggravating factors.
She been in jail since 2024. H could she be walking y'all?
Can she walk soon? She may not walk out the door tomorrow, but could she just do a walk?
So basically, they want the judge to look at other Florida cases and how they were handled. That's it.
And the reason why they filed this is um you know to show inconsistency um argue fairness, show that other defendants got deals, possibly influence sentencing.
Um so they're just basically saying that these people get manslaughter deals, but Alicia Andrews gets hammered. Don't you do that, Judge Fernandez, if you have to do it. So, and that's what all that's what they're citing in all of these cases, guys, that they sent to her. Like I said, it's like 37 pages long.
It has the criminal affidavit reports of these people. It has what happened in the incident, right?
It has all this information in there in regards to these cases and they just like look giving you all this information before the sentencing. So it can be like a sentencing guideline for you. Just in case you didn't know, judge, like if you got to sentence her, if you're not going to give us a new trial, you don't feel like we met the burden of proof or you feel like the state has proven that there was no harm in this era. If we gonna go down this road, judge, look, don't be trying to give her 10 years.
Don't be trying to make up for what the state couldn't prove. That's what it sounds like to me. Like don't be trying to make up what the state couldn't prove. Cuz I I honestly like I believe that if she if Judge Cisco was doing her sentencing, I think Judge Cisco might have given her max, right? I think like she would have gave her the max. And I I guess it's good that a new judge has it, right?
you know, and they able to present this stuff because I don't think Judge Cisco would think would consider any of this [ __ ] like uh no, I'm giving her the max and y'all can figure it out like because I don't like none of you and I definitely don't like you lady because you got them facial expressions and all the marks over there with with everything that you feel. So yeah, I definitely don't want to be bothered with you. You know, you know how they, you know, that's why the attorneys be like, well, you know, when they be presenting stuff to the um jury for their closing arguments, they like, if I did anything to offend you, please don't take that out on your client, on my client. But we all know like we probably um taking that out on our client.
Yeah, I can paste it over there in Discord. I'll place it up under I think do we got a tab for her?
Um, no. We No, I don't think we do. We must not been doing We must not been over here on Discord at that point in time.
Let me make a tab. Yeah, I'll put it over here for you.
I think I'm put it over there. You kind of wait.
Yeah. Once it downloads, I'll put it over there for you. That way you can look at it. Yeah, I'm like I ain't reading I don't want to go. It's just the rest and what these people did and how much they got sentenced to and murder in the second degree, first degree and I don't know.
So, I just wanted to kind of like give everybody an update in regards to I don't know if she walks tomorrow. Maybe she'll get probation and she'll be able to leave.
Who knows?
I don't know. We going to have to see.
So, we going to wait and see what happens.
Let me see it. It I don't know what it's doing.
It's reloading. Don't worry about that.
Let me see. I'm trying to save it.
That's what I'm trying to do.
So, just so everybody's aware, we do have um I don't know what time the hearing is going to start. They say at 8:30, so I will set up us a stream um for 8:30 in the morning. So in case it does start, we can be right in the place and see what they got for Alicia Andrews. Um if if she's going to be sentenced or is she, you know, does her sentencing is it going to allow her to walk? Like I don't know. They telling the judge, look, some people just get off with probation. Like you do not have to give her anything.
You can say, "Look, she been in jail long enough.
We'll find out tomorrow."
Yep. We'll find out tomorrow. Thank goodness.
We'll find out tomorrow.
If she'll get out or not, I don't know where she'll be sentenced, but I mean I or I don't know if she going to get a new trial. I don't know. I you know I don't know. I think that I don't know. It's like a It's like a pickle this one cuz I just really don't know.
Like do you I think that their whole thing is that they want to go for the best, right? So if if if if if if they have the opportunity of um you know maybe getting her to walk and just time serve, maybe they go with that and then she can go through I don't know if you can get a first offender program or something like that where they wipe stuff away. I don't know.
I guess we'll see.
But yeah, they should be streaming it tomorrow. will be in court tomorrow and we shall see the live action tomorrow.
We also have our jury instructions and we will be in verdict watch for Jordan Allen. Um I do plan on tomorrow starting in the morning.
um the case with the um in Atlanta where the boyfriend um allegedly unalive his girlfriend who was um a media influencer.
So we're going to do that tomorrow.
So we'll start that tomorrow.
Oh, y'all talking about the um the the Zack Adams. Zachary Adams. Oh, yeah. That's a whole hot mess. Like everybody get a new trial. I mean like everybody I mean everybody and I mean everybody real quick. I ain't seen nobody like like Daisy Link, she got a new trial like a month later.
Like it's so weird.
It's, you know, I guess different districts move different ways, but it's so crazy because, you know, if you ask me, I say the busiest uh court system to me, it seem like it be it um it's Florida. Florida got all types of cases. I'm telling you, any case that you need, Florida got it, baby. If you think you going to be off court for a week, Florida said, "Ah, we cringing down here. It's hot and sunny and we like alligators. We cringing."
They thought they cringing down there.
They going to make it do it.
Yeah. No verdy for that one yet, but awesome. Awesome. Awesome.
All right, guys. Um, uh, Judge Hammer, I I tried to post it. It's telling me it's too big.
I don't know. I don't know if it's because of the pages, but it's telling me it's too big.
When I try to drop it over there, it say file exceeds the size limit.
Upgrade. Oh, they talk about I got to upgrade to get I got to get nitro.
I have to see how much nitro is. I don't know. Let's see.
I don't know what the heck they want. I guess that in order to for um documents to be a certain size.
Bummer. Bummer. Bummer. Bummer. I I probably can load the other document.
Gosh, I never knew that they had like a um a size limit on it.
Yeah. So, here's our hearing notice.
So, we know it's supposed to go down tomorrow.
So, that's that. We got that there.
So yeah, cuz she had been she was supposed to get sentenced all the way back in um was that December?
I think she was supposed to get back in December. It's been almost she was con she was um she was found guilty October 31st. I don't even know it because it was Halloween.
But yeah, good grief.
It's been a while.
So, yeah. I guess let's get this over with. Shake, rattle, and roll.
All right, guys. Well, I'm not going to keep you too much longer. We'll be in court tomorrow. Everybody make sure that they have a a wonderful evening.
Get some rest. We gonna be up in here tomorrow. We got things to do. Got people to see, places to do, things to do, all that stuff.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do my podcast.
You say, "Don't podcast just sitting up here talking, putting people to sleep."
They probably like, "What the hell is she talking about?"
She start sipping, she be saying all anything out of her mouth.
All right, guys. I'mma put on an outro song and we will be back up in this joint tomorrow. Y'all have a great evening. Oh, I should put the Discord.
Let me put the Discord in here for anybody that wants to go over. I know they probably gonna be hanging out because it's early for the West Coast people and they do not know what to do.
Here's the link if you want to join the Discord. It's free. It's fun. It's the afterparty. After the party is where we put documents if we can load documents, you know, like today it don't want me to load it. Um, it's where fun things happen. And it has been recently named Crime Club. And you know, Crime Club is just like fight club. What happens in Crime Club stays over there in Crime Club, right? All right, y'all. Remember, no filters, no flip, just facts, so you can be the judge. You You say you gifted me nitro. Oh, really?
Oh, I got to see how that work. Let me see. Oh, thank you so much, Dr. Let me see.
Maybe we get your document in there.
Let's see. I don't even Okay, open gift.
I don't even know you can gift nothing on Discord.
Open. Let's see what the heck it do.
Oh, you can give gifts out on here like regular like up on um YouTube.
Oh, wow.
I accepted my gift. Thank you so much.
It say, "Wait, are you human?" Uh, yeah.
Okay. Let's see. Now, if it don't do what it's supposed to do, I want you I want us to get a refund. If it don't do what it's supposed to do, we getting a refund. If it don't let me drop this document, let me see.
Boo y'all. It let us drop it. Okay, so it do what it do.
Thank you so much. Oh, yay.
We in there like swimwear. Unless you can't fit your swimwear, then you may not be in your swimwear. But we in there like swimwear because the document is locked and loaded.
Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Thank you so very much. I appreciate you.
So, is there just Shamrock?
That's good. I don't I even know I I even know you can get stuff on there. I wonder what else it do.
Do any Do anybody else know what it do over there?
I have to look it up and see.
All right, guys. Here we go.
This is how we do it.
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>> Yeah, just for anybody that didn't um just for anybody that didn't see my message, I did redirect our stream over to um Katnai Williams. It looks like she is covering um Dr. Parker um how Virginia law applies to what happened in the case today. So maybe a good listen for us. Um although we did hear the press the the gentleman on the news report kind of explain to us, you know, about a double jeopardy and things like that. Um yeah, if you just want something in your ear like I sometimes like in my ear, um it's gonna drop us off there. If not, y'all know about Discord. All right, guys.
See you in a minute.
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