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Okay. Yeah, we are we should be live.
Are we live on YouTube? That's really the question. I should have already introduced the show. I should have said this is the Oscar Quinton debate live if I'm live. But I can't at this moment actually tell if I am live on YouTube.
Uh it says that I'm live. Hopefully I'm live. Hopefully I'm live on both platforms. That would be really exciting if somebody on YouTube could let me know. Oh, Diavas here on YouTube. Is it working? Is is everything is everything is is the frame rate good? That's the big emergency with uh well not emergency that's that's what I've been dealing with in terms of getting the show functioning both on YouTube and on TikTok is that every time I tried to do it I ended up with like a really laggy delayed stream. So if I think today everybody just needs to let me know if everything is working properly.
Um volume is low but frame rate is good.
Okay. Can I turn the global volume up on YouTube? My microphone is maxed out. H, that might be that might that might require some solving. Uh, let's see.
Properties.
Uh-oh.
I don't know. H, we'll have to see how how bad it is when a call gets started. Uh, good morning everybody. Uh yeah, I I started a few minutes early today because I expected there uh I expected there to be some technical difficulties. So I am dealing with some volume issues on YouTube right now. Hopefully by the time the show is officially started at 10:00, which is 4 minutes from now, uh we'll have that type of stuff sorted out. We shall see.
Um but good morning, Cara. Good to see you here. Um and hello be kinder who uh who sent a rose. Thank you. Do I look kind of like Parker? I'll take that as a compliment. People think he's pretty handsome, right? Um, yeah. I wish I wish I had better volume control. I'm using the same audio device for both and if I turn it up, it'll be too loud on TikTok.
H. So, I don't know. We'll uh we'll have to we'll have to check that as we get going. Sorry, this is a boring beginning to a stream. If you're listening to this after the fact, it's like super duper boring. I think I am just going to wait for a call to see if that uh to see if that volume issue gets leveled out by YouTube. But for anybody watching this live on YouTube, do do hang tight. Uh the the the stream on there might be technical difficulties city today. And if that's the case, the episode is still being recorded in the normal way. So it's possible that I will just scrap the YouTube stream and then um upload the episode as normal. But ideally, the live stream will just get saved as a live VOD on YouTube and I won't have to edit it anymore. And that will actually save me work. Um, oh wow, the chat just lit up on TikTok. Holy goodness. Um, holy goodness. Holy moly.
Oh my goodness. And my neighbor who I told the other day not to disturb me between 10 and 12 is disturbing me at 9:58 a.m. I am going to hang up on him.
I literally ran into that neighbor the other day and said, "Hey, I do this show between 10:00 and 12:00 now. FYI, don't disturb. Why is he calling me at exactly the time I told him the show starts?"
Good morning, everybody. Good morning, Mama Avery. Good morning, Deborah. Good morning, Christian. uh f Donald Trump in the chat. Love to see it. Got the guest request open. We got 140 people watching. So, the show should be cruising and uh hopefully hopefully people will be able to hear me well on YouTube. It'd be really disappointing if the live stream I I it's very very difficult dealing with these volume issues when I have two controllers that handle the audio differently and they kind of clash with each other, but we will we'll we'll see if it works out.
Can I Wait, I want to select the stream.
There we go. Can I see how many people are watching on YouTube? Awesome. Five people. Hello people on YouTube. I don't know how many viewers I'm going to get.
Um I didn't do a good job announcing that the stream was going to start that this way. And now I'm seeing lag. Are people seeing lag? People let me know.
Um Elvis Trump is here at the beginning of the stream. Good to see. Captain Krypto thinks that Democrats are hypocrites.
Um you know, he can get in the Oh, we actually have somebody in the request queue. Sorry for all the rambling.
Technical difficulties. Now it's time to start the show. We're going to talk to Carter, California, and we're going to check as we always do. How old are you?
>> I'm 50.
>> You are 50. Okay. You support Trump?
>> Uh, sure. I voted for him.
>> Okay. U do you still support him? Do you think he should stay president or do you think he should be impeached?
I don't watch the day-to-day news. So, I wouldn't know the latest thing that the the media and the journalists, the chief editors of places, you know, there's a hierarchy that maintains an order over society. And that that kind of makes me lose faith in our our journalists and whatnot. Capitalism is being phased out.
And I think that's kind of why Donald Trump was pushed in here the way he was.
cuz I've been a liberal Democrat my whole life and somehow find myself voting for Donald Trump desperate for change. And I think it was just too too obvious because like I said, it was kind of a plant I think he would put in to accelerate uh further division in the efforts for control and sustainability for this planet. It's about human sustainability. It's not about a certain quality of life or or a certain amount of equality. It's just to keep on keeping on. And I think that's why we have Donald Trump.
You think that Donald Trump, the billionaire convicted fraudster, was made president of the United States to defeat capitalism, >> right? To to to help accelerate um the the vanquish of our United States Constitution as we know it and capitalism.
>> Okay. So, you're an accelerationist. You just want the system to collapse in some dramatic terrible way so we get a new system.
Well, I compare it to to to riding the on the freeway the wrong direction. I'm willing to jump out of the car with Donald Trump and roll and hope to survive to start walking the other way because we're going the wrong direction.
>> Do you have any prescription medications that you need to take to stay alive?
>> No.
>> I do.
>> All right.
>> Yeah. That's why I don't want society to collapse cuz I'll die of an asthma attack. Do you think that's a reasonable position for me to have?
>> Well, it's going to come sometime. I mean, we're all going to die, but I would prefer to not die because I can't get my asthma inhaler prescription refilled.
>> I think I think humanity is is resilient and we look after each other. I don't think you know the people that that force our division.
Uh I mean, there will be there will be a what's what's that what's that called when there's people that are damaged that aren't incidental incidental? Uh >> casualties.
>> Casualties of Yeah, casualties is not the right word. So, you want you want to accelerate the collapse of the United States so that we can get to some better system. You don't care if I die of an asthma attack while I wait for the new government to get set up. And you think you're going to be okay. Who's going to grow your food?
>> I've been, you know, we all we all have our own unique unique experiences and whatnot. And >> that doesn't answer my question. Do you do like are you off-rid? Are you able to live without engaging with society?
>> Oh, yeah. When I voted for Donald Trump, I knew that was a dangerous vote. I'd be willing to have gasoline, uh, no gasoline. No gasoline for a year. I'd be willing to have no no grocery stores for a year. So, I understand the detriment that would bring to society, but going the wrong way, >> do you you have a way to get food for a year?
>> I'd find a way.
>> Um, >> yeah. I mean, >> you say that you find a way, but if society collapses, most people won't be able to find a way. The math doesn't work out. the economy.
>> I'm not even worried about my family. I mean, I'm I'm expendable. I'm expendable. I'm looking for the next 500 or thousand years going into the future.
That's what I'm looking at.
>> And you think you think we need some sort of catastrophic like reboot of society to make that happen?
>> Well, I think it it just is. It's not it's not my personal thing. It just is what's happening. You know, I'm just narrating this. I I don't I don't think that's a I agree that there's a potential for societal collapse in the United States in the coming years given what's going on with the government. I just think that's a bad thing.
>> I think that'd be real bad. I don't I don't want that.
>> There definitely be bad to it for sure.
With good there's bad, bad, there's good.
Yin yin depends on yang.
>> I I don't know. Do do you do do you think that more or fewer people will suffer and die if we progressively fix the current system or if we like burn it down and start a new one and go through some period where there isn't food stability or prescription medications or all the other nicities of a 21st century society?
>> Uh I'm not sure how you frame that. I do I do agree that things would be more tranquil and there'd probably be less less hardships with Miss Harris.
>> What exactly what type of hardships do you think Americans would be facing under Harris?
No, I'm saying there would be less.
There would be less. She's more obedient.
>> She see uh Yeah, she's >> You mean like obedient of like what it says in the constitution?
>> No. To the hierarchy, the the the corporate controllers of this of this country and this world.
This the whole globe.
>> We're on a globe. You know, >> since the internet came out, we started playing Monopoly worldwide.
>> Yeah. I I I don't know if I should be taking this call all that seriously.
Like, forgive my apathy, but I I don't think you started the call by saying that you don't even follow current events and that you're an accelerationist. So, like, I could just list terrible things that are happening in the country, but you don't care. You want them to happen. If I If you disagree with it, you're going to disagree with it. If you agree that it is happening, you're going to say it's okay cuz you're an accelerationist.
What's the point of talking to you? You don't care that I'm going to die of an asthma attack if society breaks down.
>> I do care. I do care. And I think humanity cares more importantly than myself, you know? And that's that's what's going to be your salv salvation.
Why don't you care? Like if you think it's a good thing that society cares, doesn't that mean that you like recognize that it would be a good thing to care? Isn't that not consistent with the fact that you don't care? That's cognitive dissonance in a nutshell.
>> I just feel our our our nation has been used as a vessel to garner a more complete control and absolute order of our globe, you know, under the guise of liberty and freedom and justice for all, you and some of the people >> I I can get I can get behind that sort of conspiracy theorizing about what's happening in America right now. But the idea that that Harris is an obedient puppet of that system is nonsense.
>> Mind you, I've known her since 1995. I'm from Oakland, California and been civically active since the early ' 80s.
She came into my political circle.
>> Okay.
>> And so she's a unscrupulous puppet. You know, I'd vote for Donald Duck over her if you want to get into this.
>> Yeah. Okay. So you keep making that claim that she's some sort of puppet.
She's an unscrupulous puppet. Like like what is your ev why do you think that about her?
>> Do you care to substantiate >> capitalism? I mean capitalism capitalism capitalism.
>> Both teams both teams in America both both current winning teams in America are capitalist teams. The Democrats and the Republicans both believe in like the basic tenants of capitalism.
>> Yep. I agree. And so that's why we're redefining what it means to be an American beyond a citizenship. It's a culture. You're calling her a You're calling her a capitalist and she was running against Donald Trump, >> right? It's it's odd. Things are sometimes not what they seem.
>> Donald Trump. It's It's all What are Donald Trump's intentions?
>> All right. It's early in the show, but I'm I'm going to ask now both chats, kick or keep, because this doesn't feel like a productive call for the show.
>> I'm about I'm about done anyway. I ran my course.
>> Yeah. I mean, you've got your talking points, but there's nothing for me to argue. Like, they're just entirely based in your opinion. chat wants you gone.
And now the live stream includes the Tik Tok chat on the screen so people can see how many people want you kicked. I get accused all the time of lying about the kick and keep uh chat. Um oh my goodness did uh did somebody on YouTube just sent me a $10 super chat and said, "Is this all working? Is it safe to super chat?"
I would say so. Thank you so much for the super chat uh Dark Tier. I appreciate you so much. It's working.
It's working. Uh we and we do have somebody else in the queue. We're going to talk to Randy Landstrom on Tik Tok Live. And if you're watching on YouTube, that's how you get on the show is you got to hop over to Tik Tok. Supports it directly. Um, but I forgive those who don't want to download Tik Tok. How you doing, Randy? How old are you?
>> Uh, I I accidentally hit the uh join button. I I wasn't >> Okay, no worries. No worries. No, no worries. No worries. Friendlyies hop in sometimes by accident because there's a little button on the screen that gets them in the call. But we don't have anybody in the chat. So, I will take a moment to say today is the first day that we're live streaming on both platforms. So, thank you to the people who are watching on YouTube. Thank you to the people on TikTok who are being very patient with a slightly disorganized beginning of the show. Um cuz uh normally I really try to hit the ground running, especially now that we're posting the show as VODs on YouTube because it it like matters for the engagement and performance on YouTube that the first few minutes of the show are good. Uh but I also do just time stamp when the first call starts and the analytics show that people do tend to just click that and go to when the first call starts. Oh my goodness.
Uh Tavi uh uh I don't know how to pronounce the username. Is it Is it Tavi Bader? Tavy bad R? I don't know.
Longtime viewer on YouTube just sent me a $20 super chat over there and says, "Holy crap, the GOAT is live on YouTube." I can't condone that message.
I don't think I'm the goat. I think I'm just doing I'm trying to be the best me that I can be, not the best debate host.
And I I think variety is important. But I will have to urge everybody over on Tik Tok live to get double tapping away on the screen because we've got 15,000 likes, which is plenty for 15 minutes into the show. But it is Saturday and we don't have a collar. And that is unusual because people aren't at work as much.
People aren't at school as much. Uh we should be able to get some we should be able to get some people to talk to.
Usually we have to sift through a a bunch of underage trolls uh this time of the week, but uh I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe the weather's too nice and everybody's outside. I wish I was outside. It's beautiful outside. Uh Louis baby says, "Love you, Oscar. Keep up the good work." Trying trying. Um it's uh it's because of all the people, you know, sending super chats and donations and things like that that I get to like really dive in and give this attention. And it was a little bit of it's like a little bit of workload increase to now be streaming on both platforms and I have no idea what I'm doing. So, uh I'm hoping everything's working out all right and the show will be recorded nicely. Uh Austin says, "They're all scared of you, Oscar." As you know, it's like cheeky and douchy or whatever to like taunt them in that way.
But I do think there's an there's a degree to which that the calls tend to dry up for qualified debate hosts because you've got a lot of uneducated callers who just don't are just super duper brainwashed by Fox News. And those people will kind of just keep calling forever, which is why I have a lot of repeat callers where the conversations aren't that productive because they're just a brick wall. But then you have these evil callers who really do know what's going on and they're just trying to push their talking points. They're trying to get their their whole, you know, outlook on the world pushed out.
And those callers tend not to waste a lot of their time talking to people like me who actually know how to handle whatever particular dis uh disingenuous debate tactic they're using. Gish galloping, like just dumping a bunch of false claims on you, like faster than you can refute them to make it look like you're overwhelmed by how many truth bombs they're dropping.
Just like nasty tactics like that tend not to work on me because I I stop them in their tracks and I call them out right away and saym like no I see what you're doing. I see that this is your strategy. It's not going to work on me.
I'm putting a stop to it right now.
These are the four claims you just listed. Which of them would you like for me to talk about? and and and that aggressive like put your feet to the fire strategy tends to scare away a lot of like in my experience like the people who spend a lot of time hopping around the lives and and talking to the you know everybody who does this tend to avoid people like like me that like just you know can handle it. So there's my little commercial to myself. I scare the bad guys away but it's kind of bad for the show. Maybe I should play dumb sometimes. Let them get them back in. Um uh let's see. Nobody in the queue.
That's bizarre. Oh, here we go. We got a default username, so it's probably going to be a kid screaming the N-word. Let's Let's hover over the disconnect button to make sure. How old are you?
>> Hello, buddy. You remember me? How you doing?
>> I don't remember you. I talked to lots and lots of people. I kind of recognize your voice.
>> Oh man, you're pathetic. You're so You know, you know, you lost that first time.
>> I'm 52. I'm 52. What did we talk about last time? I don't remember you.
>> You don't remember what we talked about?
Oh, you got obliterated. Oh my god. You got obliterated. I destroyed you.
>> Okay, what did we talk about?
>> I can't. Are you telling me you can't remember?
>> I do this 2 hours a day, dude. Please remind me. It's like like it it loses the viewership. People don't like the part of the show where the guest egocentrically thinks that I have to remember them when I don't. And you're refusing to help me remember cuz I do remember your voice. I recognize you.
But what did we talk about? I don't remember the call.
>> We were talking about the presidents and how Trump and Biden and uh >> Oh, yeah. you, the guy I talk to about Trump and Biden. Of course. Um, yeah, I obviously >> that's basically what it was. I mean, >> I This is a show where I talk about Trump and people insist instead that I talk about Biden even though he's retired. So, that's every [ __ ] conversation. What's >> he on TV the other night?
>> Oh my god, dude. What What did we talk about? Please remind me who you are.
>> If you can't remember, dude, then obviously you got a horrible memory.
>> Yeah, I don't have a great memory for like trivial information like that. I have ADHD. I really struggle with it. I I'm good at like understanding things and I'm good at like history and trivia stuff that's like built into my memory from a long time ago. But like no, I really do struggle to remember the day-to-day. I have a very hard time remembering usernames and faces and who's who. But like so we can just sit here and you can just like lap up the fact that you know something that Oscar Quinton the debate host is, which is who you are. Sorry you didn't like make the cut for me remembering you. What is this? What are we talking about?
>> I'm offended. I'm highly offended. You know that I'm highly offended.
>> Are we going to talk about politics or not? Dude, pick something like Did you see where uh Biden's wife came out and and total distraught and talking about how how horrible her husband did in the 2024 election where he could where he lost his train of thought and she thought he was going to he was having a stroke right there on the live stage. I thought that was it's about time that >> I'm not interested, dude. I don't care.
I've said so many times on this on the show that Biden was too.
>> Oh, you don't want to talk about that? I got you. I got you. Wait. He was too old. He shouldn't have ran again.
>> Now you admit it. Now you >> I admit it all the time.
>> Good job. Good job, buddy. Good job.
>> I think you're mixing me up with other debate hosts.
>> No. No. This is what we talked about last time and you tried to deny it and now all of a sudden you're admitting I've never denied it.
>> Good job. Good job, buddy. Good job, >> dude. Pick a topic. Come on.
>> Ah, that was a topic, but you don't want to talk about it, >> dude. The the Tik Tok chat really wants you gone. Um, Jam, they don't like me.
Excuse me. They don't like that you haven't you haven't presented a topic.
I'm going to present a topic. Will you think of a topic? Will you think of a topic that has to do with Trump or any other >> I agree with your perspective on Biden about that? Why do we need to talk about it, dude? Like, what is this?
>> Excuse me. Please shut up for just a moment. I'm going to take a moment to thank Tool Jam on YouTube for sending me a $10 super chat. He said, "Just wanted to support your new full-time debate gig. Best of luck to you in your efforts to persuade people away from MAGA."
Thank you so much, Tool Jam. I really appreciate it. No, seriously, dude. I I'm really mad that Biden ran again.
I've talked about it for like collectively hours on this show how I think it's like the greatest like recent blunder in his political career that he decided to run again when he was obviously unfit to >> consider this. I've never defended him on that. You can ask me whatever you want, but I'm probably going to kick you if you don't give me a topic that's relevant to what we do.
>> Okay, let me let me ask you this. Let me ask you this then. Okay, then then you can kick me if you want to. Do you think Joe Biden calls Camela Harris to election?
Yeah, >> absolutely agree. Totally agree. Now you can kick me if you want to. I don't care.
>> Can we talk about Trump?
>> I mean, yeah. If you want to talk about Trump, let's go ahead.
>> I still don't even know what we talked about last time cuz you refused to remind me.
>> I mean, since TDS is really really kicking in on you. I mean, yeah, we can talk about there's a topic. Let's talk about TDS. Tell me what TDS is.
>> Trump derangement syndrome.
>> Okay. Tell me what that is.
>> A syndrome where you can't get the president off your mind. You can't you can't stop talking about him means you can't let your day can't go by without talking about Trump cuz it's for some reason in this Tik Tok thing which Tik Tok is mainly liberal everybody's got to talk about Trump because that's the only thing they have to talk about they can't talk about anything else because it's Trump derangement it's a >> what are the symptoms of Trump derangement syndrome >> talk about him every day 7 days a week 365 days a year >> does Caroline Levit have Trump derangement syndrome then >> oh absolutely Absolutely.
>> Oh, absolutely.
>> Okay. Okay. So, I'm glad you're at least consistent because >> Do you know who Caroline Levit is?
>> No, I don't care.
>> She's his press secretary. She talks about >> Well, man, I'm sure that's her probably her job to talk about him.
>> It is her job to talk about him every day.
>> Also, well, okay. So, here here's my question. Do you think that she has TDS just cuz it's her job to talk about him every day?
>> Yes, I still think she has TDS.
Absolutely. Even though she's very much proTrump.
>> Absolutely.
>> Okay. So, it really just has to do with whether or not you talk about him every day.
>> Absolutely.
>> Okay. So, it is also my job to talk about Trump every single day. You were >> It's not your job. It's something you choose to do. That's not your job.
>> It's what I do for It's what I do for my income. It's my job.
>> Oh, you do this full time.
>> Mhm.
>> Oh, I didn't know that. I thought you just some goop that just did this for the hell of it.
>> That was the case about a month ago.
It's It's growing fast now. What's my full-time job?
>> Oh. Oh, nice. Okay. So, how long do you sit on here?
>> 2 hours >> a day.
>> 10 to 12 Central Standard Time every single day.
>> May I ask how much you make a week? You You don't have to give me a Zach number.
>> I'm not going to tell you. It's it's it's changing rapidly. It's more each week, but but it's it's enough that I don't really need to work my other jobs anymore. So, no, you don't need to pocket. But my point is that it is my job to talk about Trump every single day. It's Caroline Levit's job to talk about Trump every day. both of us meet the requirements for TDS. Let me ask you this. So, so if if I want to have a serious conversation with you about what TDS, TDS is, >> let me finish what I'm saying, which is that it sounds to me like TDS isn't that important a label if it applies to both me, a commentator that talks about Trump who doesn't like him and his own press secretary who for some reason you don't care who that is. But like what's so so what if if people who have TDS, if they talk about him every day, what difference does it make? I don't think a doctor would tell you that that you have TDS because I think that TDS is made up.
I don't think doctors recognize it as a real syndrome.
>> Well, I mean, I think if you talk about anything every single day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, it's not necessarily a TDS. Let's just say you talk about animals all day every day, obviously you're an animal lover. If you talk about sex every single day, obviously that's all you care about sex.
You're a sex addict. I mean, you know, it's just in what you talk about every single day, 7 365 days a year. Uh yeah, they come off a come off kind of weird.
>> Well, okay. I mean, so what there's like you can pick any person who talks about any particular thing and say that they're like mentally disabled. Do they have some kind of syndrome? Like is it is an ESPN announcer? Like does they do they have like basketball derangement syndrome? If they're commentating on basketball every day like like what you you hurled TDS at me like it was some kind of insult. Like explain yourself.
What is this?
>> I'm trying to hurl at you like it was some kind of insult. I mean, some people take it as an insult. But I mean, if you talk about MAGA every day and how bad MAGA is and how horrible Trump is and Trump did this and Trump did that, yeah, it's more likely TDS.
>> Okay. But when you say it's more than likely TDS, that that makes it sound as though TDS is this other thing that you can actually like catch or like have instead of TDS just being a label. It's just a syndrome.
>> Chicken or the egg, buddy? Do you call it TDS when somebody talks about him every day? Or is TDS a disorder that you can have that makes you talk about him every day?
Do what? I didn't hear you. He broke out.
>> Chicken or the egg? Is TDS some sort of syndrome that you have where once you have it, it causes you to talk about him every day or is it just a label that you use for any person who talks about him every day?
>> Your first one.
>> Okay. So, like how do you catch it? Is it genetic? What is it?
>> It's just a hatred. It's a hatred for somebody so badly that that's the only thing you can talk about.
>> Wait, wait. No, we're going against the previous definitions because you said that Caroline Levit also has it and she doesn't hate Trump. She works for him.
>> Well, no, she doesn't hate Trump. She loves Trump. But for for the people that hate Trump, it's uh it's >> So, does she So, does she have TDS or not?
>> In a way, it does, but in a good way.
>> I don't think that there's any actual consistency with what you think TDS is.
I think it's just a label that you use when you feel like it. Because I'm trying to understand this and you have no consistency. Uh, >> well, you don't have to have consistency with it. I mean, it's it's just my opinion.
>> I don't value your opinion.
>> Oh, I don't value your opinion either, but we can go.
>> All right. I don't think this is constructive. You want to pick another topic or am I going to move on to somebody else?
>> I mean, you can pick another topic if you want to. Go ahead.
>> I think that we should impeach Trump because he doesn't follow the Constitution.
>> In what way?
>> Numerous ways. I'll give you one example, which is that he's filed executive orders that change the like interpretation of the Constitution according to him, which the president's not allowed to do.
I mean he can't change the constitution without a substantial agreement through Congress.
>> Yep. Congress is the one that can amend the constitution and and the Supreme Court is the body that can change come together and you got to have some so when the president files an executive order that changes the rules for example for mailin voting and then threatens states that don't obey his completely baseless lacking authority executive order on mail and voting. He threatens those states by withholding federal funding. Like that's very illegal and unconstitutional.
>> I mean, he's the president. He can hold federal puny. Show me a constitutional state. You can't hold federal puny. Tell some of that.
>> Ah, dude. You're going to play that game of like if he invents a thing that the founding fathers didn't think of as a loophole for abusing his power just cuz it's not stated.
>> You're saying it's against the Constitution. Where is it? Where does it say in the Constitution that says that?
>> It's so so the states have the rights to establish how they run their own elections. The president has no authority over it because it's it's a conflict. Where in my constitution does it say that?
>> It's I I was I was I was telling you what the Constitution says about elections and you interrupted me because you want me to have memorized an article number or something and I don't off the top of my head. Does that mean I lose the debate?
>> Do you not believe me when I tell you that the Constitution's clear about who can change election rules in this country?
>> Show me where Show me where Show me what a constitution he tried to change.
>> Dude, go read the Constitution. I'm not going to do it.
>> Show me where Show me where it says he he can't hold federal funding. Tell me.
>> Wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay, you just you you said show me in the Constitution where it says and we can actually just look at, for example, if you want to look it up yourself, you can look at executive order 14160 where he quotes the 14th Amendment and offers his own interpretation that goes directly against the interpretation that has been offered by Supreme Court cases where they are supposed to >> he can hold federal funding if he wants to. He's the president of the United States. He can do that legally.
>> Article 10. Thank you, chat. It's article 10 that he's defying by doing that.
>> Okay, but he can still hold federal funding. I mean that's holding federal fund is not in the constitution.
>> You do like the idea of a president threatening another body in the government using funding as like the weapon. It you do you not recognize that that's author authoritarian?
>> He does the same thing with tariffs. He does the same thing with tariffs.
>> That's bad. That's also bad. When he does that he's called neglia. He's called using as >> I don't even need to let I don't even need to give you my opinion. The Supreme Court has ruled that it was bad for him to do the tariffs. They decided against him >> on some tariffs. Yes. on some terror with them, but not all of them. They still uses tariffs.
>> I don't think that there's anything I could say to you where you wouldn't just ask an additional layer of question like what exactly is the language, what's the article number, who wrote it, what date was that ratified, what was the name of the judge, what like you're just you're just going to ask another piece of information. Like there's no convincing you of anything. You have you have started this call by saying, "No matter what Oscar says, I'm going to believe the answer that makes Trump look good, and none of this matters." That's really that's why that's why the chat is demanding that I kick you. There is somebody else in the queue.
>> I mean, if you want to kick me, kick me.
I don't care. I mean, I'm >> I'm just gonna ask the chat again. Keep or kick. Um because it just isn't like isn't worth talking to you. Nothing I say to you group. Absolutely. Only Democrats are a hate group. Absolutely.
>> All right. The chat wants you gone. So, I am going to kill you.
>> That's fine. That's fine. Keep me going.
>> I just bring me a [ __ ] topic next time where that you're willing to engage with. Will sent me five bucks on Venmo, he said, for your TDS and sitting on TikTok like a goofball. Yeah, I know.
Oh, me with my I'm so riddled with TDS that I have to sit here 2 hours a day and talk about him. You know, like I want the reason I sp waste so much time talking to guests like that is cuz like I really do want to understand that person. But like people say I talk to brick walls all the time. And like sorry guys, I know I pissed you off in the chat when I spend too long talking to somebody, but like there's 5 minutes of you hating me talking to them and we're going to get to this delicious 5 minutes. And it doesn't always work out.
It doesn't always work out that five or 10 minutes of wasting of seemingly wasting time leads to a very interesting place with the caller. And with that guest, it didn't work out. He actually was a brick wall. There's nothing to say to him. Nothing I could show him. I literally quoted the Constitution and then named the executive order number and he just ignored it. He didn't even acknowledge that I had said those words.
He just moved on to something else. If that's the way the guest is, then like that eventually gets you a kick because there's just no point. He's just going to chuckle and laugh and say, "You have TDS." Um, we're going to talk to Cadelyn. Caitlyn.
Caitlyn. I don't know. Maybe they can clarify that after they tell us how old they are. Will they connect?
Hello. How old are you?
>> A little pack of money.
>> All right. I'm going to kick them and we're going to talk to old White Lighty who one of the mods connect connected.
Old Whitey, how old are you?
>> 70.
>> 70. You support Trump? Yes, I do.
>> Why?
>> Because he's doing everything I voted for him to do. Taking getting tax cuts.
Uh I like those terrorists. Whatever we have left for terrorists. I like what he did in Venezuela. Like what he's doing in Iran. Uh Iran.
Love it, man. I love it. Life is great.
>> Okay. Um do you believe in the Constitution?
>> Uh yes, I do.
>> You think that the president should follow the Constitution no matter what?
He does no matter what he does.
>> That's false. He often violates the Constitution. He does it about once a week. Well, >> in a pretty serious way.
>> No. Uh, you see, everybody interprets it different. Like Democrats interpret it.
>> Whose job Whose job is it to interpret the Constitution?
>> Everybody. Everybody.
>> No. There's a very No, there's a very specific body whose job it is as final say in this country on interpretation of the Constitution. Are you aware of who that is?
>> The president still has to interpret.
>> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. Hold on. Wait. Stop. Sorry. I I just need to address this very basic question just cuz it seems >> I understand you have I understand the Supreme Court interprets the Constitution.
>> Okay. Okay. So that's that's so excuse me. You're talking over me.
I'm trying to run the show. I have this magical words. I have this magical superpower where I have like hundreds of hours of experience doing this where Excuse me. You're still talking over me.
I have hundreds of hours of experience running this show. And one of the things I need to do is make sure that the conversation can be followed by the audience. That's something that I have to pay attention to in addition to just the conversation that we're having. So if you talk over me every time I open my mouth to do any attempt at directing the conversation in a way that people can follow and you know get use from the the show is just terrible. So just like frankly sir I know you've got some ears on me but I need you to behave yourself better on my show. Can you exercise better manners if you're going to be on my show?
>> Sure. We both need to. Okay, then I'll ask you to hang out for just a moment so I can thank Vic for sending me seven bucks Canadian on YouTube super chat and saying you're live on YouTube. I can finally listen at work. Yes, this is awesome. Hope your day is going well.
Give Noodle a treat for me. I will give Noodle a treat for you, but not right now cuz I don't think I have any within arms reach. Um anyway, uh yeah, thank thank you so much everybody over on YouTube super chat supporting the stream over there. Okay. So, Whitey, I actually want to bring up the thing I was just talking to the previous guest about because you you said that you do understand it's the Supreme Court's job to to interpret the Constitution. So, do you think it would be appropriate for the US president to file an executive order that defies an interpretation of the Constitution that the Supreme Court made?
>> Well, I mean like when Democrats do it, nobody g No, I don't think it would be right for them to do it. No.
>> Okay. What do you think that we should do if the president does that?
>> Well, we got rid of him. Joe Biden's gone. So, they they tried to put Kamala Harris in there.
>> Well, his term ended the right thing with that.
>> We His term ended and he ended up not running again. He tried to, which I think was very silly. But again, that doesn't actually answer my question. Any president should do.
>> Well, okay, but Biden stayed president until the end of his term. We should just wait for them to stop being president. Is that what we should do? Is that what you're suggesting? Y well y'all could have done it earlier.
>> Okay. The question is if the president files an executive order that goes directly against an interpretation of the Constitution that has been offered by the Supreme Court, what should we do?
Is your answer that we should simply wait for their term to end?
>> Well, we can do like y'all did. Yeah, we can wait. If if Trump were to do that, not that he would, but if he were to do that, yes, let's just wait to the end to do something about it cuz you guys did it with Biden.
>> Okay. So I I disagree about what we should do about that. I I also disagree that Biden did that. And I would like to inform you that Trump did do that. The executive order was executive order 14160. He altered the interpretation of the 14th Amendment. That has been backed up by Supreme Court cases. Uh as I mentioned, >> okay, well in the past it did the same thing as Trump. The same thing happened in the past. I don't know of a time. Why do you want to change it for Trump?
>> I don't know of a president who's done that.
>> Yeah. Didn't they stop immigration and stuff like that from the 1920s to the 1960s or 70s? Didn't Didn't they do Didn't Eisenhower kick a bunch of people out? Didn't Barack Obama kick a bunch of people out? Y'all say >> I'm not talking about deportations. I'm just I'm just saying that no, I don't know of a time. What I'm talking about is the president using the executive order to change the constitution or to change the interpretation of the constitution, change how the constitution is enforced. Doesn't matter particularly what we're talking about.
It does happen to be immigration to is what he was talking about with the the 14th amendment. He was taking away birthright citizenship from the children of undocumented immigrants. But again, it doesn't actually matter what the thing is. The thing I'm most concerned about is we can't have the president changing the constitution with executive order. Like that's >> See, he did a good job with that. That was we the people agreed that he did a good job. No, we don't. We don't. We the people. We the people. We the people elect a president who's supposed to take an oath of office and defend and uphold the Constitution minority though. See, >> you're Are you aware of the polling data on Trump? You are the minority, sir. Sir sir, he is losing favor by the day. It's about a third of Americans.
>> He's gaining people by the day, too.
>> He's gaining a lot of people.
>> He's he's he's he's losing a lot more than he's gaining. No, you see there's a lot of Democrats not getting jobs because all these illegals coming in.
>> I need I need to I need to assess the fact that the conversation is bifurcating. There's two topics here.
One, you're [ __ ] wrong about his approval rating. Like, he's losing favor. I We can look at polling data if you want to, but the fact of the matter is that public opinion does not change the fact that the president cannot offer his opinion on the Constitution. It's not how it's supposed to work.
>> Well, everybody does. Everybody offers their opinion on the Constitution. Yes.
They come up on television. They give their opinion.
>> They can say what they're Yeah. Yeah.
But the executive order is supposed to be enforced. It's supposed to mean that something happens. He's threatening states with withholding federal funding if they don't obey his illegal executive order. Whereas for a president to say, "Hey, we should do this. We should have an amendment or we should we should have the Supreme I hope the Supreme Court rules this way." That is a president just offering their opinion. They're not actually using their authority to do anything. The president can't just throw around executive orders because they don't like parts of the Constitution.
Well, you see, we the people think that the 14th Amendment was for black folks that were freed.
>> The people who wrote the 14th Amendment potentially considered the fact that even though it was just black Americans who were being, you know, hated by racist bigots at the time. Maybe we should say anything about Excuse me. I wasn't done talking. Sir, >> you're lying. You're lying. Nobody said hey hate. Nobody said hey. Hey, I said maybe. I'm proposing a possibility and you're interrupting me. I need you to let me finish.
>> No possibility. There's no hate. No possibility. No.
>> Okay. Even if you feel that way, the Supreme Court feels differently and has ruled against exactly what you're saying. The Supreme Court has ruled that the 14th Amendment does in fact apply to undocumented immigrants. The president doesn't have the authority to >> I didn't see that undocumented immigrants didn't see that. All I saw was the people that live here already that were here that were slaves. That what they were talking about at the time.
>> 14th Amendment doesn't mention slaves.
>> Freed slaves. free. I know it delta, but it's free slave that they would >> not. It's any person in the jurisdiction of the United States.
>> But if we had to guess, that would be the guess.
>> No, that's not the guess. And the Supreme Court.
>> But you would put your life on it.
>> Yeah, cuz the Supreme Court disagrees with you.
>> No, this one does. The the the three to six people, not the current Supreme Court, but they weren't living back then.
>> No, this was backed up in the 1800s, dude. Like, you're disagreeing with the Supreme Court uh opinion.
I don't ever remember them letting in a bunch of immigrants a long time ago that were criminals alive in America.
>> Do you consider yourself a patriot?
>> Yes, I am.
>> No, you're not. You don't believe in the Constitution. You don't believe in the rule of law. You don't believe >> Consider yourself a patriot. Do you >> I'm the only patriot in this call. I believe in the Constitution. I believe in the rule of law.
>> Why do you let illegal invaders in here?
Why do you let illegal invaders?
>> I don't do that.
>> But you're s you take up for them. you take up with these immigrants, these illegal immigrants.
>> I'm asking you to defend the fact that you don't believe in the basic rules of governance in this country. You don't believe >> I believe in the basic rules of keeping the people safe. And that's what Donald Trump is doing. Keeping us safe from illegal immigrants who cause crime and unaling Americans, but you don't do against him. You you but you you think that your opinion as as frankly a person who's clearly uneducated about all this stuff is more important than what it literally says in the constitution.
>> I'm witnessing all this. But I witness all that that's going on. I witness it.
You don't evidently. I witness people. I see people being interviewed crying cuz their loved ones was lost because of an illegal immigrant that you want to let in the country.
>> I cried when my neighbors were murdered by federal agents here in Minneapolis.
What's the point?
>> Okay. But were the agents illegally?
Were they illegal?
Like I'm going to force you to stay on one topic. I know you want to just keep bringing up other things that you're upset about, but we can't have a meeting.
>> We can't. No, I'm staying on the fact that the president is violating the Constitution. I've been insistent on staying on that topic and you keep bringing up but he is. It says in the 14th amendment exactly. I'm just going to mute you old.
>> Agrees with the people. The majority of the people I know many Democrats that agree with me.
>> Stop. You are wrong about two things here. one, it isn't the majority.
Trump's approval rating is in the [ __ ] You would need to provide a source. You were just making that up.
Also, even if you were right, even if he had the the majority of we the people at his back, that is simply not how government in this country works. You can't just change the constitution with a majority opinion from the people, which by the way, you are just assuming is the case. I am I'm guessing based on your Facebook feed or something, when in reality, it's like a third of people in this country support what he's doing.
>> Okay. Yeah. I I give an example, okay, of the majority. Um, I don't know any Republican that wants these illegals coming in. I don't know any Republican that disagrees with Donald Trump with his immigration policy about these illegals. But I know many Democrats who are >> It simply doesn't matter.
>> I know many Democrats.
>> The question is, stop yelling about what your opinions are. It's simply >> It's more than 50%.
>> It's more than 50%. That's not You're not providing evidence of that. You're just saying >> against illegals.
>> I think that almost everybody is upset about the illegal immigration issue in this country, but you are ignoring my main point, which is that the president cannot change the constitution.
>> He didn't change it. If you read the Constitution, it still says exactly what you're saying. He He quoted the Constitution and he quoted the Constitution and went directly against the Supreme Court ruling on the matter.
>> But that was for ch for slave people being freed. That's what it was for.
>> That's not what it says and that's not what the Supreme Court says. You don't believe in You don't believe in the Constitution. You're not a patriot.
>> Yes, I do.
>> You're not a No, you're not a patriot.
I'm going to give you every opportunity that you can to demonstrate to me that you are. No. No. It is not patriotic to use your feelings to decide what it says in the Constitution.
>> Is it patriotic to want illegals come in and unlive Americans?
>> Have you read the plaque on the Statue of Liberty? Yes. It's [ __ ] patriotic to want people to come into this country and enjoy the American dream. Who >> wrote that?
>> I don't know. I don't remember. I don't care.
>> Did the French uh France Didn't the Statue of Liberty come from France in the 1880s?
>> Why was America founded? Why why did America get started up?
because we were getting away from uh from socialism and stuff like with you people like you people that get got away from people wait you're suggesting that Europe was socialist in the 1700s >> well it was something like a monarchy and stuff like that but it was >> cuz a monarchy and socialism are pretty [ __ ] far apart which was it let's see if you know your >> converted to socialism they converted to socialism >> you think you think that the founding fathers started America to save themselves from European socialism >> from the monarchy and and stuff like that. Yes.
>> How? Well, okay. Is it monarchy or socialism? Cuz they're very different things.
>> Did they have a fight? Did they have a revolution to get away from them?
>> Just quick question.
>> Didn't those patriots Didn't those patriots have >> Was it was it monarchy or socialism? Cuz they're pretty far apart. They don't they're not really compatible systems.
Monarchy and socialism.
>> What do they have in England right now?
Don't England have a monarchy and they also have these people being voted in but they're a bunch of socialists.
>> They have I mean I'm not talking about now. I'm talking about the values for which the country was founded. I'm talking about the 1700s cuz you're not a [ __ ] patriot. So I'm trying to understand how what you actually think about.
>> We were that's why they wrote the constitution for all of our freedoms to get away from government control.
>> Right. And and you are defending the president who is overturning the [ __ ] constitution. But he's doing what I want him to do.
>> That's the problem is that you are going to judge whether or not it's okay for the president to change the constitution based on whether or not you like I want.
I can interpret the constitution like I want a patriot. That makes you make laws. That makes you >> a [ __ ] traitor to your country.
>> It makes me It makes me saving American lives. You US citizen lives unlike yourself.
>> I What am I doing, dude? I'm defending the [ __ ] Constitution. I'm the patriot.
>> You know, you're defending illegal immigrants coming in that aren't a lot of Americans.
>> I dude I you're kind of like the first caller where like I have to limit my arguments to things that fit in your 3-se secondond attention span cuz you're not capable of actually listening to an argument and responding.
>> That's because I don't like you I don't like you lying. And >> I know you don't like having to use your brain for a conversation. I know that's new for you. You can try if you want >> than you are. I'm doing better than you are. You're a patriot who wants to unlive Americans. I'm a patriot that wants to save the Americans.
>> Okay.
>> I'm I'm a patriot who wants the Constitution to be followed, buddy.
>> Uh even though even though it only a bunch of Americans, you interpret the Constitution to let these illegal invaders in. You letting these in illegal invaders come.
>> All right. All right. All right. All right. Here, I'm going to I'm going to give you one more chance and I'm just going to I'm going to give up on trying to get you to stay on the fact that the president isn't following the Constitution because you've already admitted >> Listen, dude. Manners, I'm talking. I'm the host of the show. You need to you need to chill if you want to stay on the show. You've already admitted that you don't care what it says in the Constitution because if you >> Well, you said that if it's in your opinion good to disobey it, then that's fine. So, yes, you did say that. You said that about 90 seconds ago. We can roll it back.
>> What?
>> Free slaves.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You just keep ad liming nonsense about that. That isn't even true cuz it doesn't mention slavery in the 14th Amendment. So, we're just going to we're going to put that to rest. And now we're going to talk about illegal immigrants. I'm going to ask you some basic questions. Do illegal immigrants commit violent crimes at a greater or lesser rate compared to everybody else in the country?
>> I would uh my the way I see it uh is per capita. Yes, there are a lot more. Yes, >> that's false. That's completely wrong.
Who told you that? Who told you that?
>> Who told you that?
>> Well, the only group that would go be more than them would be Democrats.
>> Democrats?
>> Who told you? No. Stop moving on to other stuff. Who told you?
>> I watch the news. I watch the news.
>> No, we're still We're going to stay on the claim. You think illegal immigrants commit more violent crimes? I think they commit less.
>> Because >> now you're talking about the Democrats?
What the [ __ ] dude? Pay attention. Are you capable of paying attention?
>> Yeah. Evidently, neither one of us are.
>> No, I'm I remember what the question was. The question is, do illegal immigrants commit more >> question right now.
>> Try again.
>> I'm answer I'm going answer it right now. Okay. Every time I watch the news, a lot of times it's illegal immigrants that who are unaliving people unaling or are physically >> so many cases on the news that you think you have a statistically reasonable assessment of the millions of people that we're talking about.
>> All right. Now, also on the news, I hear about people that do the same thing, but they come from the Democrat.
>> I'm going to keep interrupting you if you don't answer my questions. My question, my question, my question is, how many cases of violent crimes did you see from illegal immigrants? What's the number?
>> Uh, it's hard to keep up. I lost count.
>> Oh, you haven't kept track of it?
>> No, I lost count.
>> Oh, yeah. So, there are people who do keep track of it and they say that you're [ __ ] wrong, dude.
>> But they're wrong. You see how >> they But they but they're keeping track.
They write it down. They do the numbers.
>> But but they they commit more crime than people like me. You're just asserting that. You're just asserting that. But your perspective is small.
>> There are 12 million There are 12 million illegal immigrants. There are 350 million residents of America. And the question is which of them perform which of them commits more violent crimes at a per capita rate for their group.
>> You're just asserting that because the news has shown you some scary stories.
But you would have to see thousands and thousands and thousands of individual cases for it to amount to a number of cases that makes >> I see thousands.
>> No, you don't, dude. How many a day? How many a day? When you watch a news, when you watch the news on a given day, how many days?
>> How many individual cases where they say this illegal immigrant did this bad thing to a person?
>> Okay, just the last two nights in a row I saw the same thing. The other night it was illegal to that line five people.
>> That's one case. And if you saw it, that's one case. And if you saw it on two days, that means that you're averaging half a case per day.
>> Two.
>> Two cases.
>> Two cases.
>> Oh my god. So one per day.
>> The person un alive five US citizens.
Then the next night they un alive one US citizen. Is that not enough for you?
>> Yeah. Okay. Wait, really quick. I'm just going to Google something. Are you Can you pay attention to a quick Google?
>> Go ahead.
>> Are you ready?
>> Go ahead. I'm going to Google how many people are murdered every day in the US. I'm just going to Google.
>> They might not have called this murder though. They might not have said murdered.
>> I'm actually just going to trust the AI [ __ ] blurb at the top just cuz I think it probably got this one right. It says an average of about 55 people are murdered in the United States every day.
Can you read that on your screen? Do I need to make it a little bigger for you?
>> No, I believe you. I believe you.
>> That sounds about right. Okay. So I think the important question is how many of those people were killed by an illegal immigrant?
>> It was six of them.
>> You think it was six of them? Oh, on that particular case.
>> So what does that leave by? 12%.
>> What? What is this? If it's six of them, that's uh yeah, about 12%.
>> Okay. Well, that's too many. So we got to get all those illegals out of here.
>> Okay. Okay. If we're going by that sample size, I I think so. But do you think that that there's an incident where an illegal immigrant kills five people every single day?
>> Probably not. I hope not. I I hope it's not.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Well, if I don't care if it was one a day, it's too many. Get them out.
>> Well, if it's one a day, that would demonstrate that illegal immigrants kill far fewer people per capita than >> Okay, that's still too many. Don't you agree that's too many?
>> Well, I just think I just think that if you're concerned with crime, you should be concerned with all of the illegals.
Why does it matter who did the murdering? It's not important to me.
>> We're talking about illegals. We're talking about illegals.
>> No, but the but the specific question is who commits more crimes per capita. And if there are 55 people murdered a day in America, what you need to demonstrate to me is that greater than expect like what percentage of of residents are illegal immigrants? It's something like 3% I think cuz it's 350 million people.
>> 3% too many. That's too many.
>> Okay. Right. So what you need to show me is that more than 3% of of the people who are killed every day in America are killed by illegal immigrants. And you're just not demonstrating that to me at all.
>> You said that >> it could be like 0.0001% is still too many.
>> If it was No, but if it was 0001% and your concern is protecting people from being murdered, then it doesn't make any sense to go after the illegal immigrants them first.
>> Why do you care if it's an illegal immigrant committing a murder? Don't you value human life?
>> Going first.
>> So you don't care about the people who get murdered?
>> Yeah, we're going to get them second.
We're going to get the illegals first.
We're going to get to Americans second.
>> What do you say to the mothers of the people who die when their murderer is not an illegal immigrant?
>> Okay. I would say to them that these Democratic politicians don't care about THEIR DAUGHTERS GETTING MURDERED.
>> I'M A DEMOCRATIC political commentator and I'm sitting here caring about their kids and you're the one who's not.
You're saying we shouldn't murders loose. Why do y'all let criminals loose?
>> You're letting criminals loose. You said we should deal with the illegal immigrants first, even if they're not the ones committing the murders.
>> Yeah. Yeah, the ones that were in jail already, you're letting them loose.
>> Why do you move on to other stuff? Like, >> why are you defending criminals?
>> That's right. Why are you defending criminals? Do you agree?
>> You're defending criminals, Whitey.
Pete, stay out of it. You're not in the call yet.
>> Stay in jail.
>> They are.
>> Pete, you're muted. It's not your time yet. You don't have the floor.
>> Stay in jail.
>> You're not the moment they step on US soil.
>> Pete, you're kicked cuz you're not you're not following the rules of the show. Goodbye. You can get back in the queue if you want. Whitey, why do you not care if somebody is murdered if their murderer is not an illegal immigrant?
>> Because I want them to stay in jail. A lot of people are murdered because they were let out of jail. So, I want them to stay in jail.
>> THE [ __ ] IS THIS? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? LIKE, what do you mean? If a person gets murdered and their murderer isn't an illegal immigrant, do you think that should be a priority for law enforcement as compared to maybe catching an illegal immigrant who didn't murder anybody?
>> Well, right now we have Tom Holman looking for those people.
>> [ __ ] QUESTION, GUY. COME ON.
>> And I want and I want them arrested. Tom Holman is taking care of that. Y'all slowing.
>> WHY THE [ __ ] ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TOM HOLMAN? I asked you a specific question >> because he goes against illegals.
>> Specific question. I'd like for you to answer my specific question. Can you pay attention? Go ahead.
>> Okay. If a person gets murdered and their murderer isn't an illegal immigrant, would do you think that that is a bigger priority for law enforcement than catching an illegal immigrant who didn't murder anybody?
>> Well, no. I want regular policemen to go get him. That's that's the regular policeman's job to go get him.
>> Okay. But given that there are so many more murders who are that are committed by res legal residents than by illegal immigrants, why are you so focused on the illegal immigrants when it sounds to me like you want to really bolster our homicide detectives?
>> Well, we have two organizations. We have one organization that take care of Americans who murder and we have an organization that takes care >> I'm asking about I'm asking about your priorities. Most of the death that happens unnecessarily in this country is not caused by illegal immigrants. If you're concerned with violent crime and death and suffering and making America safe, why are you focusing on this small group of people who commit disproportionately fewer crimes?
>> Yeah. I want both of them taken care of at one time. I want everything done at one time. You're trying to stop the illegals from getting from being >> The thing is though that if we if we if we give if we help the systems that catch murderers, there's this amazing thing that will happen, which is they will also catch the murderers that are illegal immigrants and then we can deport those cuz I'm totally for deporting illegal immigrants that commit violent crimes. So my solution would get everybody. Yours focuses disproportionately on the illegal immigrants. You're getting all huffy puffy worked up about >> That's cuz we were talking about illegals. That's cuz the subject was illegals, >> right? But my but my position on the subject is that it is silly for you to give illegal immigrants so much attention when they disproportionately cause so little crime in this country.
>> Okay. Well, all right. I have two explanations for that. First, I give them more attention because that's what you were talking about, illegals. The second reason I give them so much attention because there's so many Democrats in the streets marking marching against ICE who's trying to get these illegals before they commit crimes. They want to get the ones who did commit and they also get you said something very interesting. If you think we should catch them before we they commit the crimes and we have established that legal residents of the country are literally more dangerous than the illegal immigrants. Should we then also just make sure that we catch all of the other potential murderers?
Cuz it is white dudes who commit most of them of most of the like mass shootings and mur rapes and terrible crimes like that. Should we just arrest all of them in case they're going to become murderers or rapists?
Okay. If you want to talk about the white uh the whites, uh I know a lot of >> I asked a very specific question.
>> Okay. So, >> I asked a very specific question. What was the question I asked?
>> I want to get I want to check going to check your listening ability and you're going to tell me what the question.
>> Get them all at the same time. All at the same time. Every one of them at the same time.
>> You just keep falling back to talking points, but like you're not having a conversation with me. I keep saying a thing and then you just bring up other details. You bring up some other point like this.
>> Well, you're the one bringing up all this stuff.
>> I am saying on one thing >> I am Yes. I'm pointing out that if you are concerned with murderers, illegal immigrants doesn't make sense as the group to go after. Why aren't you in you said that we should catch the ones before they commit the murders before they've even committed the crime? I'm saying that if we want to catch all the potential murderers, it's white dudes we need to go after.
>> Okay.
>> So, should we just arrest random white people? We can't tell when a person is born if they're going to be a murderer.
>> Okay, with that said, illegals, illegal immigrants already doing something illegal. Get them now. They already doing something illegal. Now, the other ones we're talking about, the white dudes or black, it don't matter. You don't know if they're going to murder until the time comes. They're not doing anything illegal until the time comes.
>> Everybody does illegal things, though.
Are you going to tell me that you've never sped on the highway?
That's a That's a misdemeanor.
>> I spit on side the highway. I spit on side the highway.
>> Okay. That's a misdemeanor. You commit a misdemeanor?
>> No, I did. Not over here. Maybe in New York or something. It is, but not over here. I can spit anywhere I want except where people walk on the sidewalks and stuff, but I can never My point is you've never jaywalked. You've never done anything even mildly illegal.
Uh >> uh we don't really have jaywalking out here.
Have you ever have Have Have you ever consumed the green plant that people like burning and inhaling? Can't say the name of it. Don't say the name or I have to kick you for TikTok to TOS. But have you ever done that?
>> That was a long a long a long time ago.
>> Long time ago. That suggests to me that it was probably illegal when you did it, right?
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, so I'm going to ball you in with these already criminal.
>> That's been past. That's been past seven years. Five years has been way more than that. But you but it was a crime when you did it.
>> You're a criminal.
>> You didn't catch. Too bad you didn't catch me.
>> Oh, so if you don't get caught for a crime, that's okay. So if we don't catch the illegal immigrants, it's okay that they committed a crime.
>> Oh, no. We got to get them now.
>> Well, but what if we don't? Then they get away with it.
>> No, not not long. Seven year five or seven years don't pass, we kicking them out.
>> My point is you're mad at them for committing a misdemeanor and you just admitted to me that you have committed.
Oh, I'm mad if they aren't alive and Americans are taking jobs, >> but they're not. Most of them are not.
>> Yes, they are.
>> And they and they have a positive benefit on the economy, but there's no showing you data. I know you're not going to listen to any actual proof I give you. Like, you're not going to interpret the KO Institute study, which is a right-leaning organization that did a study that backs up my opinions on legal immigrants.
>> Is it is it legal to hire an illegal alien? Is that legal to hire illegal aliens? I'm not interested in your question because you haven't addressed the fact that you yourself committed a misdemeanor and you're mad at these people for having committed a misdemeanor and you said that that's why we should think that they're going to become murderers. That doesn't Are you going to become a murderer? You committed a misdemeanor.
>> We were talking about We were talking about unliveing Americans and stuff, not misdemeanors.
>> Well, but most of the illegal immigrants haven't done anything worse than just the misdemeanor of illegally entering.
>> Yeah, but they're taking jobs though.
>> But they're improving the economy overall. No, but the Americans would have improved it too if they would have gotten the jobs.
>> No, but the fact of the matter is that the economy is better with them in it.
If we were if we deported them all tomorrow, it would be very bad for the economy. You understand that, right?
>> Well, there's a lot of people getting freebies right now that we cut those freebies off. They >> they don't have accessibility to the freebies. People like you do though.
They can they can't get Medicaid. They can't get food stamps. They can't get social security. You're wrong. No, they don't get the freebies. The freebies are for the freebies are for the people who have their paperwork in order. They get free healthcare. They get all that.
>> They don't They get They get emergency room visits, but but that's it.
>> They're still healthare.
>> We don't have free healthare. We citizens don't get free healthare. What the [ __ ] are you talking about?
>> They can go in emergency room, complain about a cold, and get medicine for their cold, >> but they pay taxes into the system, and they don't get as many benefits as the rest of us.
>> Now, now, okay. Now, is it legal to hire illegal aliens?
>> I'm not interested in your question.
You're not responding to anything that I say. I don't know why I should respond to anything that you say. You haven't responded to a single point.
>> Everything you said. I responded to everything you said.
>> You You opened your mouth and let words fall out of it every time I was done talking. That doesn't mean you answered what I said.
>> You're breaking up. I can forgive you for breaking up. I'll take a moment to thank Nicholas. What did Hold on. Hold on a second. Stop. I need to thank the people for paying my bills for me.
Nicholas sent me $17. He said, "Proud of you for being brave, consistent, and what else does this the message is cut off. Brave, consistent, and something else. I don't know what."
>> Thank you.
>> And Aaliyah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank him for me. Aaliyah also sent me five bucks and said, "Thank you for being an amazing voice for the political left. I get migraines for you having to debate with brain dead grandpas and insults. Thank you for staying educated. We haven't assessed if the caller is an insult, but he certainly is a brain dead grandpa. I agree. Thank you so much, Aaliyah. I appreciate you." What the [ __ ] are we talking about? You pick a new topic, dude. I'm done trying on immigration.
>> Okay. Okay. Well, okay. How could How could they add to the economy or add to the tax basin if it's illegal to hire these people?
>> No. No. You're not engaging with the conversation about immigrants in a way that's sensible. We need a new topic.
>> Why are you dodging Why are you dodging the conversation?
>> Because you have dodged every point I've brought you about it. So, there just isn't a point in >> You said that they add to the economy.
You said they add to the economy. That has to include taxes. That has to include taxes. They pay taxes and they don't get they don't get as many benefits for paying their taxes as we do. They get to use the roads. They get to use the fire department. They get to use the police department because the police will come help them if somebody's attacking.
>> That's use tax money. But anyway, but they disproportionately pay no. If you're going to insist on staying on the immigration topic, you have to listen to what I just said. Do you recognize that a person who pays taxes on their income but doesn't have access to Medicare, doesn't have access to food stamps, doesn't have access to social security, is somebody who compared to everybody else is going to end up paying more into the system relative to what they can use from it. Do you recognize that as true?
>> Yeah, I recognize that. But how can they pay taxes if it's illegal to hire them?
>> Because the IRS so cares about collecting taxes that they literally just let illegal immigrants pay them.
They can do it with a tax ID number which they can get for free from the IRS because they don't have social security numbers. The IRS just lets them pay taxes.
>> So these people that hire illegals, you don't think that they're harboring that they like they would tell the illegal just as taxes. You don't think that they pocket that money? You don't think those people that hire them are pocketing that money? You don't think they're doing that?
>> The IRS would collect more tax money if we gave rights to illegal immigrants. If we gave them some kind of amnesty, yes, that would improve the program because not everybody does it. There's plenty of under the table work that happens with illegal immigrants. I think that's bad.
I think that if we had an amnesty program and we let them get their paperwork in order, that problem would go away and they'd be able to be full productive members of society, which is what I want for them personally. But that doesn't answer my like point, which is like you just asserted to me that they can't pay taxes. Can you just like tell just I just want you to do the exercise of telling my audience, showing my audience that you're the, you know, the man I expect you to claim that you are. Can you just admit you were wrong about illegal immigrants paying taxes?
Because they do.
>> I'm I'm totally right. If it's illegal to hire them, how can they be paying taxes? All that money is being hired.
>> So, you did ignore it when I explained to you that the IRS literally just cares more about paying taxes than than catching illegal immigrants. So, they let illegal immigrants pay tax.
>> So, that may be so, but the majority of the money is being harbored by these people who hire illegals and they're taking that supposed to be tax money and using it on their own benefits.
But but can you just admit that you were wrong when you said that they're not paying taxes?
>> Because you never admit you're wrong.
You don't admit you're wrong.
>> I haven't been wrong so far.
>> Yes, you are wrong. You're wrong for not for not being a patriot and want to save us lives. You >> Michael sent me $2 on Cash App and he said for doing a great job. This guy is trash. Michael thinks you're trash, dude, cuz you're the one who's who's not willing to admit you're wrong and you haven't demonstrated that I'm wrong about anything.
>> Michael Michael probably is a Democrat.
What does it matter? Um, like again again, dude, like how do you think this conversation can be even remotely functional if you just move on to something new every time I say anything to you?
>> Because it leads to new things.
>> Yeah, but people have a hard time following it, man. It makes a bad radio show.
>> No, well, I mean, everybody's commenting like everybody's enjoying the conversation, except that they all learn it from me. They're all learning that all these illegals are on the live and people get >> Please give me your honest opinion. Do are you learning anything valuable from today's guest? Just levy your opinions in the chat. People watching on YouTube, you can do the same and you can see the Tik Tok chat on the screen. I've got it superimposed.
Okay. So, almighty take a look at the chat. You have lost the audience. If you think that you are educating my audience, please teach us something with your infinite wisdom about American democracy. educate us.
>> Yeah, >> give me a hot take.
>> I saw a bunch of yeses that they learned. I saw a bunch. You're not looking down when the yeses pass.
>> Dude, it the chat is getting recorded.
It's on the screen. Like, if you're lying, which I mean, I don't know.
There's probably a couple yeses in there. There's always a couple of people who are going to go against whatever I say. Let's see. Can I actually find a yes? Okay. Wait, wait. We got We got a We got a yes from Septic Salad.
Everybody that's a regular caller.
People know who that is. Not surprised that we we got a yes from Septic Salad.
Um, who else? Anybody?
No. Wait. Oh, we got another yes from Septic Salad. He's voting more than once. Septic Salad is committing voter fraud in the chat by voting yes more than once. How do you feel about that, old Whitey?
>> Well, the thing is is that what I'm saying what I'm saying is how do you feel about the fact that Septic Salad is committing voter fraud in my chat by voting yes more than once?
>> I feel great. You think it's good that he's committing voter fraud to make your side look good?
>> Yes.
>> You think voter fraud is good if it gets you what you want?
>> No, just for me. Just for me. Just is good just for me.
>> Why are you special?
>> I don't know. Just God made me special, I guess. I don't know.
>> I mean, God might have made you special, but I don't think we mean the same things when we say that, buddy.
>> God doesn't make anything bad. So, yeah, it has to be good. It's got to be good.
>> God doesn't make anything bad. But did God make everything?
>> Yeah, but thing uh things like let's say Democrats.
>> Yeah, I was gonna say, did did God make Joe Biden?
>> Democrat, but they turn bad. See what happens there? They turn bad.
>> Okay. Okay. So, it was a real platitude when you said that God doesn't make anything bad because things can still just be corrupted by external forces.
Does God want that to happen? Does God allow things to become bad?
>> No. God didn't No, doesn't want that to happen.
>> Wait, how did something that God didn't want to happen happen? I thought he was in control.
>> Choice. He gave us choice.
>> Oh, okay. All right. I guess that I guess that's consistent. Thank you so much, Vic, for the $7 Canadian on YouTube super chat. Vic says, "My aunt illegally immigrated from Canada and lived in the States for 17 years. She paid taxes and got places to live. Like, it's not difficult to get." Yeah. Yeah.
Vic is just offering some personal experience with the fact that Yeah, legal immigrants do get to pay taxes.
Um, all right. I I don't remember what we're talking about. It really doesn't matter with you. What? Give me something new.
Another hot take from Old Whitey.
>> Well, um, you know, I I like the idea of having those tariffs. I like that idea.
>> Who pays the tariffs? Just so we understand how they work.
>> Everybody. Everybody pays.
>> No, but like specifically like if let's say I want to buy some lumber.
>> Whoever orders from overseas, whoever orders from overseas, whenever they pick it up, let's say from the dock, they pay the cherish right then and there.
>> That's actually correct. You get one point for being right about something.
Why is that good?
>> Okay. Now, this is the good part, okay?
When when we all order something, let's say we buy something from overseas, like what the tariffs do. If everybody pays the tariffs, we're all paying our fair share, right? For whatever you bought, you're paying your fair share.
Am I correct about that?
>> I No, you're just labeling that tax as a fair share. And I don't know why you're doing that.
>> I said everybody who orders from overseas pays that tariff because we have tariffs. Am I right about that?
Everybody who orders overseas products are paying the tariffs, right? I >> I mean I mean they're fair in the sense that anybody who wants to import those sorts of goods does have to pay the same tariff on them. Yeah.
>> Okay. So So that means everybody everybody pays their share of those tariffs. Now let's talk about >> But that doesn't make it a fair thing to do to the American people.
>> Oh, wait a minute. Well, I'm I'm leading to something now. Does everybody pay their share their fair share for income tax for federal income taxes? Does everybody pay their share fair share like Elon Musk or yourself? Do you think everybody pays a fair share?
>> No. The rich people are getting away with paying almost no taxes.
>> Okay. So, when a rich person buys something from overseas, he's paying that tariff whether he likes it or not, right?
>> Uh-huh.
>> Okay. That answers your question.
Everybody pays their fair share with tariffs, but everybody does not pay their fair share with income taxes cuz they can hide their money or they can claim all kind of deductions and stuff.
>> So, the reason you like the tariffs is because you think that they're a good solution to tax fraud.
>> Oh, yeah. You can say it like that.
Yeah.
>> Okay. You know what my problem with that solution for tax fraud is?
>> What?
>> One, I think we should just enforce tax fraud better. Uh part of the problem there is that the rich people >> it's not going to happen. You know it's not going to happen.
>> How convenient. Uh we could talk about that as a separate topic. But I think the bigger problem with using tariffs to fix uh rich people not paying their taxes is is twofold. One is that because the tariffs are so bad for the economy.
It's just not really a net win. You know, like tanking the economy tax cuts for me. It's like I got an income tax already.
>> You got to let me finish, dude. Like slow down. Like come on. You're jumping down my throat. I I hardly got it out.
What I'm saying is is that like why you know there's this cost to the economy when we have these tariffs because it makes goods more expensive and you're just assuming that the cost to the economy is worth getting the taxes that we get from the tariffs which just doesn't really make sense to sense to me especially when the problem with a sales tax or a tariff or something like that is that it doesn't change based on who's doing the buying. So if you have a rich person buy something they pay the same sales tax or they pay the same tariff as a poor person buying that thing. So the so there's no progressive tax rate. Like the reason we want to fix the tax system and get rich people to pay their appropriate taxes because we tax them at a higher rate because money is less valuable to rich people than it is to poor people which makes it fair to tax them more because the a bigger amount of money being taxed from a rich person might hurt the same as a small amount of money being taxed from a poor person. So we we're trying to do it a fair way.
You're admitting that the rich people are cheating the fair system. For some reason, you think it's fair to [ __ ] up the economy and charge everybody who wants to import anything, especially when in order to have an economic effect with tariffs. Like, it's really precise what you have to do to get the tariffs right. And Trump unilaterally made tariffs that just had to do with what our trade deficit with the with the target country was, which makes no [ __ ] sense at all. I don't think you understand economics, dude.
>> Okay. Now, here's the second part of my statement that you didn't want to hear.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. Now, Trump was deducting income taxes from people. People don't have to pay taxes on tips and stuff like on overtime. He was gradually taking income taxes away from people like us, like myself. I don't have to pay social security anymore. That was a swap off for me. I don't pay social security taxes anymore. But he implemented tariffs. Okay? But I pay less tariffs than I do income tax when I was paying with social security. That was a great swap for me. I love the idea of swapping my federal income taxes, get rid of that and paying tariffs because I pay less tariffs. So Donald Trump, if I put a if I put a dog turd on a silver platter, would you eat it?
>> So Donald Trump was >> If I put a dog turd on a silver platter, would you eat the dog turd?
your teacup. You got to come back to the Tik Tok app if you want to if you want to keep talking. I want to get this analogy out. We're going to see if you can do an analogy. I'll take a moment to thank Gen X for the two bucks on Cash App. Gen X says Old Whitey doesn't know about his Acadian Acadian descent. No, I don't think he's introspective like that at all.
>> So, my wife called.
>> Okay. So, I don't know if you were talking the whole time, but we cannot hear you when you're not in the app.
>> The reason why my wife My wife called up I >> That's fair. Fine. Fine. But but um >> Okay. But anyway, so Donald Trump is in the middle of swapping out income taxes for tariffs. And I think we come out ahead with swapping the income tax because everyone that's a terrible idea.
That's an awful idea for literally all the reasons that I said before you started talking. I know you weren't listening and you probably couldn't comprehend what I was saying, but I literally was explaining that >> idea for me.
>> I because it [ __ ] up the economy, dude.
What the [ __ ] >> No, it didn't. No, it didn't.
>> Yes, it happened.
>> People like you. Okay. Well, hang on.
>> Do you understand increase taxes on on corporations? Do you want to increase taxes on US corporations? Do you want to?
>> Sure do.
>> Okay. Isn't that going to raise prices?
Won't that raise prices?
>> It will raise prices. There are ways to do it.
>> Raise prices.
>> Okay. Prices go up continuously. There's a target rate for inflation of about 2%.
These are things that we consider when we make economic policy. You have to make these decisions very very very carefully. And Trump is not doing that.
He is just making big across the board tariffs that are really damaging to the economy. Are you aware of how many manufacturing bankruptcies we had in America in 2025?
>> That's cuz they keep increasing taxes on them.
>> That's because we keep increasing tariffs on them.
>> The tariffs would be No, we pay the tariffs. Like you said, >> those companies that went bankrupt went bankrupt because they couldn't afford the tariffs on the materials for the that they used in the They were buying foreign material. They were buying foreign material. Now they're going to Now we have companies buying Americanmade products.
>> No, but they couldn't afford it. No, but No, but they're not buying American products. They just went bankrupt.
They're they're no longer in business.
>> Well, they shouldn't have depended on foreignade objects. That's all.
>> Do you think that we shouldn't use any foreign goods?
>> We should use a lot less.
>> Well, okay. Here, I'll give you a very specific example. You know what lithium batteries are, right?
Yeah, >> they're like the type of battery that gets used in like a smartphone or a car, like all this important new technology.
>> I'm just giving some background for the audience maybe who doesn't know. So, there are there are some precious metals that are in lithium batteries, not just the lithium themselves, but there's also things like cobalt and stuff like that.
These like more exotic materials that are really difficult to find in America.
We don't really have mines for cobalt here. Are are you see why I'm bringing this up?
>> Yeah. Because Democrats don't want to dig it up. They made it illegal to dig up.
>> No, no, it's not. I'm talking about an example where we just literally don't even have the resource that we need in on American soil. We just don't have >> the stuff is there. It's just illegal to dig it up.
>> Nope. Nope. Nope. I will also I will also point out that Biden expanded drilling to help the American economy.
So, you're just wrong about Democrats not wanting that. But >> I didn't say drilling. I say you want a >> I just brought that up as an aside, which I shouldn't have done because your attention span is too fragile for that.
But I I'll get back to my main point, which is that we literally literally we literally do not have enough cobalt here to make the batteries. We just don't have >> Okay.
>> I don't think you knew what cobalt was before this call. I think you're just making that up.
>> Don't Don't Ukraine have those some of those materials? Don't Ukraine have them?
>> Other places do. I don't know about Ukraine off the top of my head.
>> They sure do. Why just get it from China?
>> We could. But my point is because we don't have it here, we have to get it from someone. We have to get it from some other place.
>> Oh, I understand that. I understand that.
>> Okay. So, should we tariff that country because because people are buying foreign goods or should we make those goods cheap so we can have better lithium batteries for our fancy electric cars that Elon Musk is making?
>> We should tariff them with they tariff us.
>> That doesn't answer my question.
>> We should tariff them because they tariff us.
>> That in my example, I didn't mention any existing tariffs. You're just adding details and saying like how you would feel about your madeup details. I'm just asking >> move we should tariff you as we should.
>> I asked you if we should tear Okay. What I asked you is should we tariff cobalt even though we need it to make lithium batteries.
>> Well that would have to we could but you could probably make something special where you don't but I don't but still in all. So you recognize that in the case of Cobalt because of all the totality of circumstances, it would be sensible to not tariff the [ __ ] out of the people with that. No doubt.
>> Okay. All I'm arguing is that we should do that type of analysis for every good instead of just blanket tariffing countries, which is bad for the economy.
>> Donald Trump might have throwing a blanket, but he was gradually moving these tariffs around.
>> You're making that up. No, he was using them as a negotiation tactic to get things he wanted from those countries.
But this careful work of determining how valuable the good is to the American economy and tariffing it in a way that promotes the American economy.
>> He's not doing that. The economist >> adjusting the tariffs. Yes, he was >> as a negotiation tactic to get other things that he wanted from those countries. But he's not helping the American economy by doing that.
>> He was adjusting the tariffs. He was doing that. He was doing that in order to strongarm those countries into doing what he wants at the at the expense of the quality of life of Americans because he's hurting the economy by doing it that way.
>> Well, he was doing good. He was doing good.
>> You need evidence though. I've explained very clearly why I think it is the way that I think it is.
>> Economy doing great. Are our economy doing great right now? Aren't we exporting more energy now than ever before?
>> The numbers the numbers get bigger generally because the world is growing and there's more people. It's like how there's more people employed under Donald Trump than anybody in history.
And that's literally just because there are more Americans than there used to be. The >> unemployment rate is actually suffering under him. So, no, dude. Like, you're just >> What's unemployment rate?
>> I don't know off the top of my head right now, but 4.2%. That's been low my whole life. That's been a low unemployment.
>> Yeah, it is not terrible at the moment.
That that's that's true. But, um, that that's not always the best indicator anyway because people are pretty [ __ ] desperate for jobs right now because of the insane cost of living. Uh, cuz wages aren't keeping up with inflation. But my >> well it was kind of hard Joe Biden's inflation what did it >> he had a couple years of 9%.
>> Well he had exactly one month of 9% not a couple years and that one month was a result of things that were and Biden did because of co >> Yeah. See Biden's years averaged six. So that means he had above six there. There was a pandemic that really [ __ ] up some of the numbers during Biden's term.
You recognize that if there's a global pandemic >> Thank you Dr. about you.
>> Excuse me. Okay. You do understand that if there's a giant global emergency, it is going to affect the numbers for the person who's president during and after that global emergency.
>> Yeah. Like when Donald Trump was president, right? Yeah. I mean, thanks to Dhi, your buddy Fouch.
>> So So, so, so let let's just let's just flip it on its head. Is Trump responsible for the 14% unemployment during his first term?
>> No, he didn't shut No. The Democrats are shutting off worst unemployment since we started tracking unemployment that happened during his term. Is he responsible? New York and California.
New York and California was shutting their docks down. It's all blue areas shutting down the country with their docks, keeping things from coming in and out. So, they shut the economy down.
>> So, it's just somebody else's fault even though it happened during his term, but it's Biden's fault even though >> that did it because they're the ones that did it.
>> All right. I'm going to I'm going to like if you're just going to say it's the Democrat's fault if it's bad and it's the Republicans's fault if it's good. There's no argument here. I am just going to ask the chat keeper kick because there's no point in talking to you. You're not listening.
>> Okay.
>> It's been fun. I've gotten some good Instagram clips, but this wasn't a [ __ ] conversation.
>> Didn't they shove their dogs down?
Didn't New York shut shove their dogs down? California.
>> No, you're not. If you're not willing to recognize that you're just that you're just Yeah. The chat say >> But I'm telling the truth. I'm telling the truth.
>> Yeah. Just there's just no point. He's just the Democrats. BE PREPARED.
DEMOCRATS. That's his answer. Trust me, bro. It's the Democrats who did it. Um Jesse sent me 10 books on Venmo and said, "Immigrants pay 100 to 200 billion in taxes, though." Yeah, Jesse knows how to Google. Look at that. Um, thank you so much. I really do appreciate it. Um, seriously guys, uh, link tree in my bio to support me for free by following me on the other platforms. And you can also send me money or like be a member or like send me gifts or get a shout out.
Oh my god, Vic sent me three bucks on YouTube super chat and said kick, please, for God's sake. Um, so yeah, don't I think I'd already kicked him by the time that that happened. Um, but yeah, uh, supporting the show directly, I mean, means that I get to do this cuz this is my full-time job now. I I'm waiting. I'm going to have a big chat about quitting my job after I have my last day, but I have quit my job. My last day is next week or the week after next week. Uh this coming week, th Wednesday and Thursday, the shows are going to be in the afternoon instead of the morning. I'll keep that updated in the Tik Tok bio. Uh so keep an eye out for that. I'll be pushing posts on YouTube to remind you guys as well because I'm live on YouTube now. Hello everybody over on YouTube on the right side of my screen. Hi everyone. Um, yeah. Anyway, it's uh the the the donations and stuff make it so that I get to like do this full-time, which is crazy cuz I started in February. Crazy.
I have 61,000 Instagram followers. I had 500 in January and it was from like being a musician. Like it wasn't even I didn't even start making content until like January. Anyway, um, thanks everybody. We're going to talk to Hira Meat.
H I R A Meat. Meat. How old are you?
Uh, I have a I have two questions and one correction from your previous argument.
>> Really quick, I am under 18 though, so sorry. No, he could have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for him being a meddling kid. No. Um, can't be on the show unless you're 18. That's Tik Tok to I got to be mega strict about that. We're going to talk to Average Guy, who I would say is not an average guy. He's not my average caller. He's he's a special kind of special. Average guy, how old are you? Thank you. Hey, good morning or good afternoon now.
>> Morning in my time zone. Uh but yeah, afternoon. Good. Good afternoon if it's afternoon in your time zone. How old are you?
>> Uh 26.
>> 26. You're a Trump supporter?
>> Yeah.
>> Why on earth?
Well, I was catching the butt end of that last conversation. And I I think what Americans were pissed off about was that not blaming the entire uh pandemic on Biden, it was blaming his his handling where he did have a little bit of discretion. Like for example, the out of control spending or also uh the lack of control at the southern border ended up being one of his biggest issues running for reelection. to not acknowledge that is I think why >> well let's talk let's talk about the first thing I'm I'm going to acknowledge it let's let's have a conversation where we acknowledge that one of the important roles of the executive branch you understand the three branches right you sound like a more educated caller right you know the three branches >> you want me to say them >> I'd love for you to say them it gives you credibility with my audience if you say them >> judicial executive and legislative >> yeah yeah okay so so one of the things that is the role of any executive branch like if I is designing a company or something, you know, you might have a chief executive officer. One of the things that's important about the executive branch is that it works very quickly. Um, Congress is real real slow.
We're learning right now that Supreme Court cases are real real slow. So, when you have a [ __ ] emergency and people are dying, >> sorry, I got to I got to dip. I thought I had more time than this.
>> Okay. Well, I'll answer your question so you can watch it later. Uh, or you I'll answer your your topic. I kicked him.
Um, I'll I'll really quick thank Michael who sent me $25 on Cash App and said for cooking them. Thank you so much, Michael. I really do appreciate it. I will buy groceries with that money cuz uh groceries and rent, groceries, rent, and doing the show. That's my life right now. Uh it's awesome. Anyway, um yeah.
So, so one of the one of the powers, one of the reasons we give executive power to the president is so that they can handle emergencies. If there's a war or a hurricane or like something crazy like that, like Congress is too [ __ ] slow.
Supreme Court's too [ __ ] slow. So you need to be able to just work quickly to get a solution pushed and we have to elect somebody who's going to do that responsibly. And the president not following the constitution is bad. So Trump and Biden both did very expensive things that we knew were going to cause inflation. They both sent out stimulus and stimulus causes rampant inflation, but stimulus was better during COVID. It was worth it for the inflation that came because it stopped people from getting evicted. It stopped kids from being hungry. It stopped people from having to like skip work cuz they couldn't get childare. Like it helped people when everybody was struggling. And we knew the whole time like, "All right, guys, pucker your buttholes for the inflation that's coming cuz it's going to be bad."
And then Biden spent his entire presidency doing seriously good economic policy with Congress and with Kla Harris casting tide breaking votes in Congress because she cast more than anybody to get [ __ ] done. The infrastructure bill, the inflation reduction act was successful. So Biden inherited this crazy problem that was created by the sensible way that we handled CO. If you look at the countries the world over that did similar things to us, they fared better. We could have done even better if we listened to more of the guidance from Fouch Fouchi is what the math tells us. So, you know, I know he's not here. I know he's not listening, but that's my position on it. And I'm probably going to tank the rest of the show by talking to Elcho Cheek Elche edu cuz there's nobody else in the queue.
And I don't know, man. Lately, I have not felt it productive to talk to Elchico Tech edu cuz the conversations have not been going anywhere. He's like caught in a very specific loop. But he's 40 years old and he's a regular caller.
How are you?
>> Hey, what's up, man? Hey, can I ask you a question? What should what should happen to a man who essays a 14-year-old boy?
>> Uh, a man that essays a 14-year-old boy.
I Yeah, go to prison for that.
>> For how long? How long should they go for prison?
>> Ooh, long time. I think the recidivism rate for people who commit those sorts of crimes is real bad. So, it should be a super long time, like 10 or 20 years or something.
>> So, why did in New York Nicole Alexander Contras, a transgender woman, Colombia National get 6 months in jail for that?
>> I don't know. I'm unfamiliar with the case.
>> Well, I mean, I just told you he got 6 months in jail for essay, a 14-year-old boy. Why do illegal immigrants get special treatment?
>> I'm sorry. Uh, you brought me a case that is an illegal trans immigrant that what what is it?
>> I'll give you another one. One illegal immigrant convicting of an another illegal immigrant convicted of our are a a 14-year-old only served 18 months.
In where is this? Maryland. That's a blue state.
>> Let me let me ask you this.
>> Well, no, no. In Virginia first.
>> No, no, no, no. If we're just going to start listing cases. No, no. It's my turn. Hello. My turn.
>> Illegal immigrant.
>> Nope. My turn. I'm I'm the host of the show. You've listed some examples. I have some It's my turn.
>> It's my turn.
>> Hello.
>> Essay on a minor.
>> Excuse me.
>> Essay on a minor.
>> Hello.
>> Only got 90 days.
>> Dude, shut up. It's my turn. I'm going to have to mute you and I don't use the mute button very often on my show. Are you capable of listening?
>> Yeah. Go ahead.
>> Okay. Go ahead and give me your your >> Okay. Here's a counter example. I'm going to I'm going to get I'm going to describe a group of people and I want you to tell me what you think the average number of years they got in prison was for their crimes. Are you ready to do this with me?
>> Okay. But we're talking about illegal immigrants who essay.
>> No, I'm I'm talking about I am talking about people who >> Now you're pivoting. You're pivoting on someone else.
>> I'm talking about people who essay children. And you're going to listen cuz it's my show and I insist and I am just going to kick you if you refuse. Are you ready?
>> Are these American citizens?
>> Yeah.
>> Who are authorized to live in the United States?
>> Most of them. Yeah.
>> Okay. I'm talking about illegal immigrants who are committing crimes.
>> Okay. And again, I am just exercising the authority of the seat of the executive branch of the Oscar Quinton debate live show. And I'm saying that you're going to listen to what I have to say and tell me what you think about it.
Are you ready or are we going to waste more time talking about it? I don't like this meta discourse. It's bad for the listening. Okay, go ahead and Yeah, you can call it a pivot. Here's the group of people. The group of people are individuals who are implicated of committing sexual assault against women and children or boys for that matter in the Epstein files excluding Gileain Maxwell who is in prison and Jeffrey Epste who is dead. Ex excluding those two people. The group of people that I'm talking about is everybody else who committed any kind of sex crime involving Jeffrey Epste or Gelain Maxwell. Do you understand the group I'm talking about?
>> No, I don't know who you're talking about. Do you think that Jeffrey Epste and Gla Maxwell are the only guilty parties in the Epstein files?
>> No. Some of those women who were standing in front of Congress crying about releasing the names, they're probably also criminals, >> but because they probably also grew.
>> Okay, what I was going to say is that there's clearly >> they also they got to pass as well.
>> No, dude. It's such a Just listen. It's such a [ __ ] up direction that you took. I'm going to finish what I was saying, which is that >> is [ __ ] up. You haven't looked at the Epstein files, dude. There's so many.
Yeah, I've looked at a lot of the Epstein files. There are so many. You will see some of those women who are up there. They're grooming women, little girls.
>> Yes, that is a problem. You're right.
There are there are women who are who are in this group that I'm talking about that you're correct about. Jelane Maxwell would be one of those women if I didn't exclude her. My point is, >> you know, there's other women besides Jane Maxwell. You know, >> you know, there were other men though too, right? Why are you focusing on the women?
>> Because we know about the men. We all talk about the men, but we have to talk about the women.
>> I'm We're talking about all of them. You brought up the women. I I was all of them. All of them. Men and women. Both of them. Men and women. Doesn't matter.
>> So, the women besides >> You're the one who decided to talk about gender. I just said any adults in the in the Epstein files who committed crimes against children or women or anybody really. I'm just saying there's a large group of people who are guilty of sex crimes in the Epstein files. And the question I have for you is how much time did they get? How many years?
>> Who the individuals? I don't know >> the like other than Julain Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein, what is the average sentence for everybody else involved in in that in that uh in that sex ring?
>> I didn't know. I don't know. I didn't >> literally it's it's literally zero because nobody else has been caught.
>> So when did when did the investigation into the Epstein uh ring start?
>> No. address what I just said. You recognize there there are other guilt guilty parties, right?
>> I mean, I don't know if they're really guilty just because they're mentioned in the Epstein files or just because they're they have pictures of that doesn't >> there's a there's a photo there's a photo of multiple adult men. G A N G R A P I N G. A young girl, an adolescent girl.
>> Okay. So, who's that individual?
>> We would love to know who those people are. Obviously, the photograph itself is not available to the public, but a court description that some poor [ __ ] had to write is available to the public. These men's faces are shown in the photograph, as is determined by the fact that the description includes descriptions of their facial hair and things like that.
Those people have not been incarcerated.
We know that to be the case because the only people incarcerated in the in the American Epstein files investigations, Arane Maxwell and Jeffrey Epste. So, what I'm saying is that there is a lot of justice that hasn't been seen for criminals in the Epstein files.
>> So, you should do you believe Reed Hoffman should be prosecuted?
>> I don't know who that is. Reed Hoffman.
>> Reed Hoffman?
>> Yeah, Reed Hoffman. He He was in the Epstein files. He's actually He had pictures of him and Epste in the island.
>> I I mean, just be associating with Jeffrey Epste doesn't necessarily make you a sex criminal. It's definitely suspicious, but if Trump would [ __ ] release the Epstein files, then we'd be able to tell.
But he's he's the only president that's released most of the Epstein files, has he not?
>> Oh my god, dude. You fell for it. It's such a dumb thing you fell for. Can I explain what you've fallen for? It's so dumb.
>> Falling for what? What are you talking about?
>> He's the only president that >> No, he didn't. He worked really, really hard to stop the Epstein files from being released. He literally met with the three Congress persons who had flipped on him, the three Republicans who were going to vote with the Democrats and release the Epstein files, and he begged them to try to get them to stop. This is Marjorie Taylor Green, Lauren Boowart, and Thomas Massie. Those three people all tell on him and said, "Yep, Trump's trying to get us to stop releasing the Epstein files." Literally the night before the vote because his hand was forced. He had had his meetings with them and they weren't going to listen to him. He went on Truth Social and he said, "All right, everybody, let's release the Epstein files. Let's vote for this thing tomorrow." He literally did that so that you can sit here and tell me that he released them, even though what he actually did was try really hard not to release them. And now that the law is passed, cuz he couldn't stop that from happening, so he had to pretend that he was okay with it happening, he still hasn't released them because half of them aren't released and the half that are released are redacted to [ __ ] And both of those facts are things that go directly against the language of that law that he tried to stop from passing. So, no, just because the Epstein files were sealed because of Gain Maxwell's appeals during most of Biden's term and were unsealed right at the end of Biden's term and we didn't get to it like in the last couple months of his term. We the people were really trying to get the Epstein files released. It was such an important issue of public opinion that people wanted the Epstein files released. We passed a [ __ ] law about it that the president tried to stop from passing and that law is still not being followed. It is horseshit. It is disingenuous, uneducated nonsense to tell me that Trump, yes, is the president of releasing the Epstein files. Disinguous [ __ ] You do not care about the victims of sexual assault if you continue reiterating that after what I just explained to you. Because the next thing you should go do if you still disagree with me is check if what I said is true. Check if Thomas Massie, Lauren Boowbert, and Marjorie Taylor Green all met with Trump when he tried to get them to stop the Epstein files from releasing. Go check that if you care about the victims of sex crimes. So releasing these files and then attempting to go go after these individuals, doesn't it hinder investigation now that this information is publicly open?
>> The reason the public demanded he did that thing, that is a non-answer to everything I just said, by the way. The reason >> I mean it's not a non-answer because it it will hinder a prosecution if you release certain files cuz now you you take the jury.
>> How convenient. Who's being prosecuted?
>> That's the point. If you want to seek prosecution of an being prosecuted. The investigations are not happening. It's been Epste has been dead for like seven years. What are you talking about? What do you mean investigating it?
>> Okay. And then how long has Epste been doing this for?
>> Like decades. Yeah.
>> Why was it only there's a massive cover up? If we if we look Do you know who was attorney Trump is part of the So Trump was involved in covering up the Epstein file Epstein case since the beginning?
I I mean I don't know since the beginning. I don't know exactly when the beginning was, but I just explained to you very clearly that he's involved in covering up the Epstein files >> cuz I'm pretty sure he was the only one that was able to speak in regards to Epson being a criminal when he went to an AG and said, "Hey, yeah, you know what? That >> I'm not going to let it slide past. I described to you."
>> No, no, no.
>> We're going to go Yeah. You're asking me these questions as though I didn't just give you a comprehensive explanation as to how he's hiding the Epstein files.
Did you not listen to it? Do you not care about women and children who are victims of sex crimes?
>> But how are you going to go after these perbs if you just release all this evidence? And then how are you going to >> the people of this country so recognized that our government has failed to convict these people, failed to investigate these very important and serious crimes that happened.
>> And whose fault is that?
>> We the Whose fault is that? Is it Donald Trump's fault for It's literally Donald Trump's fault for going against the will. He was president when the we the people got our elected officials in Congress to pass a law that forced the Epstein files released. He is the president that is not following that law. He's not firing people at the DOJ for disobeying it.
>> You didn't care about Epstein until you thought Trump was in the file.
>> That's horshit. I [ __ ] the truth.
No, listen to me. I have been following the Epstein case closely since before he died. You don't know.
>> Oh, yeah. When? Yes. When when was the first time Epstein got convicted for essay?
>> Something like 2006 or 2008.
>> Okay. So, how come they didn't investigate him then and prosecute those per >> the type of because the type of corruption that I'm talking about is widespread throughout the system and he should have gone to jail forever in 2008. It's very bad that he did.
>> So, how's that Trump's fault in 2006?
>> You brought up another thing and said that it wasn't which it wasn't Trump's fault back then because he wasn't a politician. He didn't have control over.
It's Trump's fault now is what I'm talking about. Why do you not care about that?
>> So, it's Trump's fault because previous administrations never did anything.
>> The things that Trump did that I just described to you are Trump's fault. Can you recognize that the things that he did are his fault? You are just handwaving it away and saying there are other people who did bad things.
Correct. There's loads of people involved in this thing. The US president is involved in it. That's who the show is about. That's who we're talking about. You [ __ ] know that. Stop being disingenuous because you call in a lot and I kind of like you El Chico techu.
You are such a dunce that I kind of don't even dislike you for most of your distasteful positions that you have. But this one is really making me lose favor with you. You so don't care about the victims of sexual assault that you're willing to sit here and disingenuously cover your eyes and say, "Nope, I can't hear you. I'm going to point in all these other directions, say there's all these other people who did bad things."
When yes, that's literally what I'm saying. And we're talking about the kingpin being the president himself who's orchestrating a DOJ cover up of all this nonsense. [ __ ] answer to what I've said in this call if you [ __ ] care about the victims of sexual assault uh crimes. Come on, dude.
>> But you know, he's the only person who's actually acted on Epstein.
>> Epstein is [ __ ] dead and we are talking about hiding the evidence of the other people involved in his crime in general. Just Epste in general.
>> Horseshit, dude. That's hor [ __ ] >> Don't Don't you think it's kind of interesting that EJ Harold received?
>> No, dude. I'm not. No, I'm not going to let you bring up these.
>> We don't talk about it cuz now you're No, we don't. It's my show and you are ignoring the fact that I just demonstrated to my audience that you don't give half a [ __ ] about the victims of these crimes because if you did, you'd want the Epstein files released.
But you're just pretending they are released and pretending that Trump didn't do anything any wrong when you know in your heart because I know exactly how stupid you are. El coach, I have spoken to you for [ __ ] hours. I know exactly the ways in which your brain is broken and I know your brain is not broken in this way. I know you get it. You just don't care. And that's [ __ ] >> What other files be besides the >> What about this? What about that? What about this? You need to [ __ ] answer to what I'm saying.
>> Well, I'm asking you. What other files do do you want? Like what else do you want? You you keep people keep on saying I want the law to be followed.
>> So you want him to release like the actual videos, the actual pictures. No, the law the law is pretty careful to make sure that the victims get protected and that we don't release a bunch of seam into the general public. But for here, I'll give you a very specific example. There's an email in the Epstein files where it is an email to Jeffrey Epstein from somebody thanking Jeffrey Epstein for the torture video. The details of this email make it clear that a number of crimes have been committed.
Obviously, some horrible crime took place in the first place when the video was created. It was also a crime for that material to be disseminated. So the fact that Jeffrey Epstein sent that crime to this person or sent this sent this footage to this person was itself a crime and then that person for not immediately telling on him and like giving that to the FBI so they can investigate that is yet a further crime.
Why is the identity of the person who received a torture video from Epstein who thenked him for it in an email? Why is his identity protected in the Epstein file redactions?
>> I don't know what email are you talking about. You have it on like we could see it together if you want to. We could break it down.
>> Go Google yourself, dude. No, there's so many. You think I'm making it up?
>> No. I'm just telling you. Let's see it.
>> I mean, no. No. Before we do that, before we waste time with you just like getting me to click around in a bunch of Epstein files if that email exists, do you recognize that that is ironclad evidence of a unjust cover up happening because there's no defensible reason for that person's name to be protected?
>> You can't say it's ironclad because you don't even know the full context.
>> You don't, dude. Go look at the Epstein files.
>> I did. I just told you there were some of the victims.
>> You looked at all three million of them.
>> I don't even claim to have looked at all three million of them, but you're just saying that you you don't like that.
You're just hand waving it away.
>> Some of the victims who who you paraded also groomed little girls and that's sick.
>> They go Yeah. And if they if they did that, they should go to [ __ ] prison for it.
>> No, they they got they got deals and that's why they're out there cheering. I can I can have some forgiveness for people who were involved in a sex ring when they themselves were minors, if that's what you're talking about. But but again, why are you so concerned with the women who maybe did something wrong instead of the enormous number of men who definitely were running the whole thing?
>> Well, I'm more concerned about illegal immigrants doing these things, which there shouldn't even be in the country in the first place.
Sunlit Angel has sent me $2 on Cash App just to get me to bring up something that I was actually going to bring up a second ago, but it got cut off, which is that Pam Bondi was the [ __ ] AG of Florida, the state Trump was doing uh the state that Mara Lago is in when a lot of these crimes were happening. So, it's like deeply corrupt and suspicious that she's the [ __ ] AG now, or she's not anymore cuz she got fired. But, um anyway, V sent me 25 bucks. Oh, for a kick. Goodbye, you monster. Oh my goodness. Thank you, V. Um, yeah. I've I've I've never been this mad at Eltoico Tech Edu. I I knew he was a problematic person. I just didn't know he was that bad a person. Um, Katherine sent me um who's Milky Kate in the chat sent me 15 uh for the oncoming headache. Yeah, thank you so much for that. I I I know.
I I I appreciate that that people really go out of their way to make me feel better when the caller doesn't care about women or children. One more caller today. We're going to talk to David. Uh we got we got time. We got got 23 minutes. We'll see. We'll see how long we talk to David. We're going to first check how old David is. How old are you?
>> 59.
>> You support Trump?
>> Yeah. Um how old?
>> Okay. Uh because he's a better >> Okay. You What was your question for me?
>> No, you can talk over me. Go ahead.
>> I'm sorry. I spoke over you. You had a question. What was it?
>> You as Okay. Yeah, I did have a question. Is that the new Minnesota flag behind you?
>> Uh the somebody else drew the [ __ ] Ice part on there, but that is the new Minnesota state flag. Yeah.
>> What does it I mean, I'm kind of confused. I mean, how does it show Minnesota?
>> Uh this is, you know, we had three flag designs and that we voted on and this one wasn't my favorite. I like had really strong opinions about the one that I liked. Uh the star is a symbol from our state capital that has to do with our history. It's a eight-ointed star. I forget exactly what it is. And the the colors were to match our lakes and I don't know. He left. We're going to talk to Splinter.
>> So many questions about the flag.
>> How old are you?
>> What's up, man? 41.
>> 41. Are you a Trump supporter?
>> Yeah.
>> Why?
>> Well, how much time do you have, buddy?
I mean, I like lower taxes. Don't you?
See, you don't pay taxes, bro, because you don't have a real [ __ ] job. So, you don't report anything. You take your little TikTok $500 a week and you just don't report that. But that's how you're living your life right now, dude.
>> You live at home.
>> I started streaming in February, so I haven't like had a tax season yet to report income from this on.
>> Yeah, but even Dude, you wouldn't report it, though. That's what I'm trying to tell you. You're not reporting $500 a week to the government.
>> I mean, I I will. They're going to send me a 1099.
>> No, the [ __ ] you're not, buddy.
>> So, I mean, you're just accusing me of a random crime. Like, I can just No, you're going to make You're going to make over You're going to make under $24,000 a year. You're not going to pay Jack's [ __ ] bud.
>> Okay.
>> You're going to get money back, probably.
>> Mhm. Okay.
I don't think so, dude. The way this is going, I'm probably going to have a pretty [ __ ] serious tax bill come next April. You're not making no [ __ ] money. Don't lie to these people, bro.
You're not making nothing, dude.
>> All right.
>> How much How much do you make a month?
I'm just curious.
>> I mean, it's changing a lot right now.
The channel's growing real fast, but I don't really share those like precise details with people. Thanks for everybody for the donations, though. It is working. It's paying my bills. My bills are pretty cheap. My cost of living is very low.
>> Yeah. Mo most of these people in here are bought accounts, dude. Stop lying to everybody.
>> I mean, if they're bought accounts, then, you know, that's bad.
>> And that's the thing, bro. Here's my question, though. Since you claim you're going to be making a bunch of money, don't you want lower taxes? Don't you not want to give your money to the government, you dingling?
>> No. I I hope to pay like I hope to make enough money that I have to pay an enormous tax burden. That'd be great.
I'd be very proud of that.
>> For what? For what?
>> You know, roads and schools and stuff, healthcare, >> roads and schools. You They already make the state already makes money off of sales tax, off of property tax. What are you talking about, you dumbass?
>> Yeah, dude. You're going to get a harassment bullying flag. You got to go back to dingling. Dingling doesn't flag the T.
>> But bro, you're not making any sense though. You You understand what you're saying?
>> Mhm.
>> Like for example, let me give you an example. I live in Florida, bro. The best state in America. We don't pay any state tax.
>> Okay. All right. Funny. All right. Sure.
Tell me about Florida.
>> Wait, bro. Hold on. Why are you laughing, dude?
>> He just said something very funny as all.
>> Okay. So, yeah, we don't have any state tax. Ronestant test is about to get rid of property tax for everyone.
>> One of my bot accounts, Jen over on YouTube, donated five bucks. Thanks, bot, for the [ __ ] >> Are you going to let me finish and shut your [ __ ] mouth?
>> Yeah, go ahead.
>> And and stop laughing, bro, because your [ __ ] snaggletoothoth is diabolical.
>> I'll laugh if I want to. It's my show.
>> Yeah, Invisalign [ __ ] sponsor this guy, bro. Stop. No one wants to see your >> Invisalign in Invisalign. Uh, >> look at your [ __ ] teeth, bro.
>> That'd be a sick sponsor. Yeah, I chipped it. It's broken. It's not >> Look at your [ __ ] snaggle tooth, my guy. Don't [ __ ] be laughing like that, bro. So, let me explain, dude. We make about $150 million off of tourists every year, dude.
>> Okay.
>> Alone.
>> Mhm.
>> And then we all pay sales tax, all that dumb [ __ ] We're Florida's like the richest state in America.
>> Okay.
>> We're trying to give money back to the government. Back to the federal government, dude.
>> Okay. So again, you're not going to you don't pay [ __ ] bro. You don't pay into the system at all, dude. How are you going to have social security when you get older, bro?
>> I'm pretty worried about the health of the social security problem. That's one of the like political issues I talk about sometimes.
>> Well, I mean, don't they say don't they say we only have like 10 years left of funds for social security recipients >> at current rates? But it's difficult to make longitudinal predictions about those sort of complicated systems. We should just be concerned about it.
That's a that's a pretty short fuse on making sure that the program stays funded. I think we should try to get that out to 20 or 30 years using some federal policy.
>> Thank you uh Melanie for for the for the five bucks. Appreciate you so much.
What's the message? Hold on. Let me read this message from Melanie because it's way more interesting to me than anything you have to say.
>> Uh oh, she's calling you a crybaby. Um so yeah.
>> Okay. Congratul Yeah. How about if we got rid of all the fraud, we could fund all the social security recipients and pay them even more money.
>> Yeah. I'm glad that the government here in Minnesota is like working on catching some of those fraudsters cuz that will alleviate the tax burden. So, you're correct. Good job, Walls.
>> No, no.
Hey, do you remember what did they did they raid the um Learing Center like 3 weeks ago in Minnesota?
>> I don't know if the learning center that had the typo on their sign.
>> Can you Can you just You're on your computer right now, right? Can you type in FBI raid learing center? Can you do that for everybody? I'll finish my sentence, which is that I don't >> You don't want to do it. You don't want to do it.
>> I'll finish my sentence, which is that I don't know off the top of my head if that particular daycare center was >> Yeah, they did get raided.
>> I'll believe you. I I mean, they raided 15 daycarees, so sure if that was one of them.
>> What's your point?
>> Well, what's my point is you guys said the [ __ ] fraud was fake and it was made up and we were just making [ __ ] up and it's not made up, bud.
>> Yeah, you do. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. I have clips of you saying that, dude. I've recorded it many times.
>> I I mean, every every second of his shows on YouTube, so people can go fight it themselves. Um I I think that Nick Shirley did some bad journalism. I've said that, but I I've never said that the fraud problem is >> bad journalism, dude. He went to he went to California. Did you watch the one when he went to California with that lady? She had documents and everything.
These these people were already convicted of fraud and still receiving the money, dude.
>> She literally had documentation.
talking about are we talking about Minnesota or we talking about California? I'm not familiar with anything he did in California. Dawson sent me two bucks and said, "Explain to this guy that he doesn't have anything this guy's doing. If you hate him so much, you dingling."
>> Wait, hold on. We got to thank the donors. Dawson said, "Explain to this guy that he doesn't know about your $3."
>> I'm going to keep saying it again until you don't interrupt. He said, "Explain to this guy that he doesn't have to pay taxes either since he makes under 40k a year." Nice burn, Dawson. Thank you for the two bucks. I appreciate you.
Congratulations, bro. You probably have a great tax accountant, man. We We none of us should be paying taxes.
>> I might need to get an accountant for next season. It's going to be >> taxation is taxation is >> a dozen different revenue streams.
There's going to be like a bunch of >> 109 over six figures, dude. And I don't pay a lot of taxes cuz I have a good accountant, man.
>> Oh, okay. Alyssa sent me five bucks for my tax evasion fund. Thank you, Alyssa.
Um, >> yeah, we we all know all your donations are fake, but stop trying to be a >> de This one's going to be very real because V sent me $25 to kick you for bullying. So, goodbye.
>> Yeah, there you go. I won the debate.
You >> talk I'll talk to that dingling another time, I'm sure. I know. I know. It makes him real happy to call me a dingling.
We're going to talk to Detroit's finest 2.0. Um, we're going to see if this is like a real time. What do we got? 15 minutes left. We'll see if we get a debate in here. How old are you?
>> I'm 31, man. new Trump supporter.
>> Used to be.
>> Okay. I mean, it's kind it's kind of friendly hour. Do you I mean, do you think that he should be impeached?
>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, 100%. Oh.
>> Okay. When When did he lose you? What What made it happen?
>> Uh well, I try to give him a benefit of the doubt. And I I still went with uh I still went with him all over this last vote, but I try to give him the benefit of the doubt even when he got voted in this election and say maybe he will run on the morals that he spoke about even though we didn't see it in his first term. Even though we can see by the blatant whining and stuff he does online and try to generate an audience of hate.
>> Um that I didn't feel it was going to go that way. So I couldn't vote for him again. Um, but he he really lost me pretty much within the first the first year. Uh, all of the promises to reduce the energy cost by more than anyone's ever done, the gas, groceries, um, that that was square one. But now even more so with this whole situation in Iran. I don't know how many more ceasefires and negotiations we're going to have. But >> I think we've made peace with Iran.
>> I think we know a lot of those negotiations are going to happen on Friday right after market close. Right.
>> Oh yeah. Uh and that's another thing. I mean uh the inside trading which is illegal for the president to do by the way. There was just a whole thing where he put like 5 mil in a Dell and then um I guess they moved a big chunk of it over to China. And I'm like, "Yeah, it's so funny for a guy who wants to bring American jobs back. He's certainly doing a terrible job at it."
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, that that all sounds very sensible cuz I one of the one of the big things I push on this show is that we can disagree in the way that maybe Republicans and Democrats used to disagree. We might disagree about tax policy. We might disagree about what to spend uh federal money on. We can disagree about how broken the education system is. We might disagree about some LGBTQ rights. These are all things I care dearly about and I really can get into a pretty heated debate about those individual topics. But if the president's not following the [ __ ] rules, the guys like none of that [ __ ] matters if the president isn't following the constitution. We can really get to work on those things once we have a law-abiding president. So I don't know how you feel about any of those issues.
And like right now I don't really care.
I'm just happy that you're on team. The president needs to follow the [ __ ] rules. Well, I'll tell you, I've always focused myself on whether what somebody identifies as, uh, who they decide they want to, uh, be in bed with, all of those things. That is so superficial to me because it's not impacting my life. I don't care what you do. Make yourself happy as long as you're not a criminal or being some, uh, terrible human being.
Um, and it kind of baffles me that that um, we have a country in a tremendous amount of debt for the first time since World War II where our economy isn't even worth the national debt. And we continue with these smear campaigns about uh liberalism and people wanting to be who they are and being proud of who they are. And I'm like, don't you think you have more important matters to attend to as the president of the United States? Um specifically the war in Iran, specifically the affordability acts that you promised to give everybody. Um he he's just a terrible vile human being.
>> Terrible vile human being.
>> You're you're articulate, dude. You should host debate lives.
>> I do. Uh I just started on page.
>> Yeah. My original page was all sports.
Um and then I made this one as a political side because the more that >> you've earned my follow. I'll give you Oh yeah. Yeah. I I'll give you a follow for sure.
>> Well, I want to say in regards to a couple of people that I've heard cuz I've been listening in for a while. It's it's ironic to me to hear people talk about draining the swamp and the fraud in all these other states, especially the last caller when the president just endorsed Ken Paxton.
>> Well, yeah. I mean, if if we're going to talk about waste, fraud, and abuse, like it's one of those things where it's like >> we have hundreds examples of examples of Trump doing waste, fraud, and abuse.
number of them. This is one that I just I cannot believe how this doesn't land harder is that those 34 felony counts were for crimes that I just, you know, using my noodle, I look at what the crimes were. I go, that's fraud, right?
Falsifying business documents for financial gain. Like that's fraud.
Convicted fraud.
>> Every American Every American has to go through the IRS to have their taxes done and everything else. And every American faces an audit potentially. Potentially.
The only way that you would try to make it to where you can't face an audit is probably if you were embezzling some kind of money, committing fraud, or doing something. So, the fact that he put a the fact that he put a ban on the IRS from auditing him or his family.
That's kind of a telltale sign, guys.
That's that's that's legitimately the biggest telltale sign. He's probably doing something illegal.
and and not to mention the fact that it was illegal in the first place to create this sort of deal.
>> Um, but hey, listen, I don't want to take up all your time cuz I'm kind of on your side in this. So, I'm going to I'll jump back in the comments and uh go be a bot again because >> Yeah, go go go be one of those crazy bots. Everybody go follow this guy cuz I think you should go watch his lives. I I'll I've got you a follow now. So, your red ring will show up for me. I'll check out one of your lives.
>> I appreciate it, man. I'm going to bolt out of here and let you get someone else up here, man. Have a good afternoon.
>> Have a good one. Uh Jay, I see you in the in the queue and I know you're friendly. So, I'll give it a moment to see if we can get one more call in for today. I don't have a strict schedule today. The day is open for me. So, if we get a good caller, I will let the show run long. But, I'm going to take a moment to thank Joseph for sending me $25. He says, "For noodle and guitar strings. Noodle is my dog for those who don't know." Uh, and I do spend a lot of money on guitar strings these days cuz it's like the sort of thing where like being a working musician is like picks and strings and just like every now and then you need a new cable or something like gaff tape. There's just all this nonsense that's very expensive being a musician. It really really eats up the really eats up a bunch of the profit.
Um, so thank you. I'll be thinking of you the next time I'm at Twin Town, my favorite music store here in Minneapolis. And by the way, apologies to everybody in the YouTube chat. I'm not used to having another thing to look at. I have not been paying nearly enough attention to the YouTube chat. So, I will I will try to be better about that in the future. I know you guys are just kind of shouting over there. Um, ooh, Prime FV700. I know who this is. This is Kimacazi who I think going forward I'm not going to spend too much time engaging with on the show. We've got eight minutes for the scheduled show. So maybe we'll just talk to him briefly.
But maybe maybe the conversation with Kim. This is Kimazi, right?
>> Yes, it is.
>> All right. You're an 18-year-old caller.
And the reason I'm saying what I'm saying is cuz I you know like I have had you on a lot lately and I don't know if it's worth talking to you. I don't think like I I I like talking to 18-year-olds. I like trying to get you guys to see reason, but I kind of feel like I've run my course on demonstrating to my audience that you're hopeless, which I hate to say about a young person.
>> I'm not hopeless. I've learned a thing or two from you. Just not everything.
>> I am actually very glad to hear that. Do you know of an example of something you've learned from me?
>> Um, I forgot what it was the other day we were talking about and you and you and you kind of won. I forgot what it was though. But it was definitely something politically politically.
>> I don't know. It was something between Kla and Trump. I don't even remember cuz we've talked about so many things.
>> I was going to say that sounds like us.
But I mean, if you're saying I won, I would argue that could be any of the conversations I've had with you. But with a car like you, I I don't I guess I could sit here and make funny clips by asking you questions you don't know the answer to. You know, like it's an infinite content glitch to ask you a math problem, Kimazi. Sorry, but like that's part of what I'm doing here.
>> I have to be entertaining and it's entertaining to people that you think you're good at math when you're definitely not. But like I I also don't want to just like keep, you know, clowning on you for just for the clicks or whatever because I've I've demonstrated the fact that the fact that you support Trump is based in nonsense.
You you don't think we went to the moon.
Like you you've got some really nonsensical beliefs about how to tell what's true.
>> I mean, it's fake, bro. Look at Look at what we went to the moon, dude. Just look at it, bro. It's obvious.
>> Yeah, just, you know, trust me, bro.
It's all fake. I know. So, I just I just don't really know what the value, bro.
It's obvious. You can't go past a certain point, bro. Should know that.
>> Yeah. I I Vic just sent me three bucks on on YouTube super chat and said, "Can't carry the one." Said he's good at math. Because that's what we discovered about you is that you can't carry the one when you're adding two-digit numbers.
>> Yeah. which indicates that you're not very good at math. But I I mean I I don't know if you if you have a problem give me give me a problem. I'll carry the one.
>> What's 88 + 37?
>> 88 + 37 is 132.
>> No, it's 125. So just to be you had to carry them the one the one twice to do that. I actually did it a more clever way. I didn't I didn't carry the one. I subtracted 12 from 37 because 88 is 12 away from 100. So I know that the answer is going to be more than 100 by 12 less than 37 which is 25. So the answer is 125. I have a bunch of shortcuts like that like built into my brain because I'm good at math because I've done a lot of math in my life. Um so I actually managed to get away with not really carrying the one on that one. Um, but again, you got it wrong. And that's like, you know, generally I'm not actually going to clown on somebody for just like making a math error in their head. It's always embarrassing if I do a test like that. And I sometimes get it wrong on the show cuz I just like miss carrying a one or something. But you shouldn't assert that you're good at math if you struggle with that type of problem.
>> I mean, I'm more of like a crazy math problem type of guy that I use paper. I don't I don't do that in my head stuff.
I use paper like in school. That's >> I'll do like problems like anything anything.
>> If the answer if the answer to the question was 37 plus 88 if it was important if it really mattered what the answer was. If I was building something and I needed to cut something that that was that length. Yeah, I'd probably also do it on I might use my iPhone calculator just to be extra sure cuz like I said, we have a brain fart every now and then. But I think the the important thing that maybe you don't understand is that because a per because math is about intuition and about understanding the relationships between numbers. When a person can't do those sorts of problems in their head, even if they can accomplish it on paper or with a calculator, even if they understand the math, but they're just not quick about it, it means that when you're dealing with a bigger problem, it's not as obvious how all the pieces fit together. you're more likely to let a mistake slip through the cracks if you're not going to catch it because it's not obvious to you that it's wrong.
So, I just wouldn't assert that you're good at math. And I wouldn't assert that you're very good at knowing what true, you know, identifying what a true thing in the world is. And that's kind of all I'm interested in talking to you about because I can't show you evidence. You just say that it's fake. Whatever I show you, you just say, "Look at it, bro.
It's fake." Obviously, it's clearly delusional. It's crazy.
>> What are you talking about?
>> Like, there's plenty of evidence that the Aremis mission went to the moon. And you just look at all of it and say plenty >> of evidence in it though, >> right? You just say something like that.
You say that the footage looks obviously fake, clearly AI generated, which >> And it's also Dude, it's just a simil simulation. Dude, what are you talking about?
>> Assimilation?
>> A simulation? Yes.
>> Oh, you're saying it's a simulation?
Yeah. I just I just don't I just don't think you have good claims for that. You just assert it. So like there's no point in us talking about it when you don't look at any >> [ __ ] out there, bro. showing. I mean, they do they've done it every time, bro.
>> One of the times we talked about this, I mentioned that there's a resource.
Somebody made a website where they took every single live stream, every single photograph, every single mission control communication that was released to the public. And they put it all into a single timeline. So, you can literally scroll from the beginning of the mission to the end and like watch the facial hair of the astronauts grow over the course of a week. And like, you ignored that. You said you wouldn't even be interested in looking at it.
>> Dude, did you ever see the Aremis 2 mission? Like, did you ask >> you just did it again? I just brought that whole thing up and then you just and then you just asked me a different question instead of addressing what I said. It's just not >> There's no point in talking about details with you. The only important topic is how you look at details.
>> Obviously, their beards grow. That's what happens. You can still fake it.
>> Really not too hard.
>> Think about it.
>> I just think it is hard. I know a lot about video production. I know a lot about AI, video technology. I know a lot about space travel. I've I've been like a NASA dork my whole life. I really care about the technology they're using. It's something that I follow.
>> NASA is a lie, bro. NASA's a lie, dude.
>> Right. And what's your your argument for that is just trust me, bro. And and and no matter what evidence I show you, you say trust me, bro. It's [ __ ] So, >> I'm going to show you clips.
>> Yeah. I mean, honest dude, if you want to take some time off air and send me all the evidence you have for the fact that the artist magician was was fake or whatever, please [ __ ] do that. I would love to look at what you're looking at. I would love to see >> You're not going to believe it.
I will assess it honestly.
>> You're going to take the time to watch every single thing I send you.
>> Vic sent me another three bucks on YouTube super chat and said this guest probably asks Grock what the weather is.
Do you do you check the weather on AI?
>> Yeah. Whoever is sending you money is an idiot.
>> Okay.
I don't use >> You don't use AI?
>> It's called a weather app.
>> Yeah. Well, I mean, of course, that that was the joke is that we you were making fun of you.
>> Yeah, I know. It's a joke, but it wasn't very funny. It was just like gay.
>> The fact I mean, I would argue that the fact that you like felt the need to say it's called a weather app demonstrates that like you felt you were clever for getting the joke. And I just I don't know, dude. You're a kid. I don't I don't want to be mean to you. You're 18.
You have voting rights. And I really wish that you're >> I was happy for you, bro. You don't you you're not being mean. I promise you, bro.
>> I appreciate you think that. I think I have been mean to you on the show before. I think I I mean, you've been very very mean to in particular uh some of my co-hosts.
>> Mhm.
>> You really mean my least favorite person you've ever brought up here.
>> Yeah, I was about to say you're really really mean to Raven. Why don't you like Raven?
>> He's just annoying.
>> I don't think it's annoying. I'd rather talk to you for 10 hours than talk to her for five. She's so annoying.
>> Okay. I just I mean I I I I think you know what I'm getting at about why you probably don't like Raven.
>> And she's lesbian. That's a good part, too.
>> Yeah. Yeah. That's >> That doesn't help.
>> No.
>> But she also just her personality is very annoying. How she talks is annoying.
>> Yeah. Caller's not even aware of the thing he probably hates Raven for the most. But I don't know if he's going to find out. I kicked him. I don't think it's worth my time to talk to Kimakazi anymore. I think I've, you know, like the show goes through phases. There's like chat in the YouTube comments. Hello everybody on YouTube. Uh about like how I've been like really angry this week, which I have. I think I think it's just been a string of episodes that have like tested my patience in a way where like I feel okay kind of hamming up the like performative like Oscars best part of the show cuz yeah, it's fun when I get to like really furiously yapping quickly. It's a good bit, but it is a bit at the end of the day. Um, I go through these phases with how I handle the show and like over the last couple weeks, I have gone through a phase of like engaging with people like Kimakazi a lot to try to understand them, but I I just I think I've hit the brick wall. I don't think there's anything more to be learned from talking to that guy.
And I just, you know, I don't know. The the audience can decide. I do still read all the comments. I don't have time to reply to all of them because guys, I can't keep up with my fan mail.
Like, message me on Instagram. That's like a quick way to just like actually like I I see all of those like usually within an hour or so of them being sent cuz that's like my main social media message box. But like I feel so bad I can't like everybody writes me these nice messages and I can't like take it in and like write a little paragraph back. I've been trying but I I just I know you know I just know I got to respect my own time at the end of the day. It's a good problem to not be able to keep up with your fan mail. But I just have so many of you to thank for it. You know there's 61,000 of you on Instagram. There's 23,000 of you on Facebook. There's the 9,000 of you on Tik Tok and only 2,000 of you on YouTube. But you guys are super dedicated. My views over there are incredible, which is why all the platforms are monetized. It's why I got to quit my jobs to run the show. So, if you want to support that endeavor, you can follow me on the other platforms by going to the link tree in my bio. Those are the four platforms I'm on that I just mentioned. And you can send money to my Venmo, Cash App, Buy Me a Coffee, or Patreon. And it just means I get to keep doing this. It's like a very very big deal that I just I got to just I was living a pretty difficult, you know, hustling life of trying to work a bunch of jobs to like pay for my cheap cost of living and I just don't have to do that anymore. All I have to do is this show.
One of my jobs I'm keeping cuz I love it. I'm still a musician. I still have a bunch of like gigs and production work I do in the comedy scene here in Minneapolis and that's exciting. But like I've kind of got my free time back.
I'm practicing I'm practicing music a lot more cuz you know I I ran this show full-time while working for like a month and a half and that was really grueling.
Um cuz the math said that if I did that I'd be able to do it full-time when I was done and that was a success. So I have all of you to thank for the fact that I get to just sit here and do this every day. So I'm going to hit the end stream button which means the real part of my workday begins. It's time to edit all those clips for the socials. So, I'll see you guys tomorrow at 10 to 12 central Standard Time. Keep an eye on the bio for updated times for the live stream, which is now on both Tik Tok and YouTube. How's it going over on YouTube?
Um, it's good, right? The video quality good. Like everything's everything's working. Seems to be working. Hello everybody. I'll try to pay better attention to the YouTube chat going forward. I've got both open now and I kind of forgot to pay it attention, but the workload has increased. It'll decrease. Uh, at least it'll feel like a decrease once I get better at managing both. Um, oh yeah, the the YouTube chat is happy. It's been good. Hopefully the VOD is good and now I don't have to edit the VOD. Wouldn't that be sick? We'll see. I'll see you guys tomorrow, 10 a.m.
Central Standard Time, right here on Tik Tok and YouTube Live. Have a good day everyone.
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