The Power of Pause - Your Best Day Yet Episode 276

Added: 2026-05-19

[00:00:00]We're parenting based on our story, based on our experiences in our life, our generational experiences, generational patterns that we bring from many generations. So, it's really important. Everybody wants to fix their kid. Like, fix my kid. I admit when my child had all that trauma and was going through that, I thought, "Okay, can you fix them? Can you fix them?" What I didn't realize is I had to fix me first.

[00:00:20]And if I if I could go through my inner work and do all that work, then I could connect with my child.

[00:00:38]Hello and welcome back to Center for Victories podcast, your best day yet.

[00:00:41]Here at Center for Victory, we're here to help unlock, reinforce, and enrich relationships through personal and professional development. I am back with you today. I'm Faith Guy, our chief joy officer. Here with me today is a repeat guest. She's one of our favorites. And not that I'm biased again at all. I'm just picking all my favorite guests recently on the podcast. This is our friend, Miss Jodie Slain. And I will give you a brief bio of her, but I'm probably not going to do it justice, so I'll ask her some questions that will today. Jod is a dedicated parenting coach and mother of three boys, including one through adoption. With years of firsthand experience navigating the joys and challenges of raising children, Jod has developed a compassionate, definitely compassionate, practical approach to helping families thrive. As an adoptive parent, Jod brings a unique perspective to her coaching, offering tailored strategies for parents from all walks of life. Her work focuses on building stronger family connections, fostering emotional resilience in children, and empowering parents with tools to navigate their parenting journeys with confidence.

[00:01:46]Clients trust Jod with her insightful guidance, warm demeanor, and unwavering commitment to creating healthier, happier family dynamics. Jod is a graduate of University of Wisconsin with a degree in sociology, a graduate of University of Illinois, Chicago with a master's degree in curriculum. Oh, I have one of those. We can maybe mention that. And a graduate degree or grad no and a graduate of the JI Institute for Parenting. I messed that up last time, so now I'm all nervous about it. But Jody, welcome back to the show. Thanks for coming on today.

[00:02:19]>> Thanks for having me, Faith. I love spending time with you and talking to you.

[00:02:23]>> I'm excited. Yeah, you've been doing a lot of work, so we're going to touch on all of that. I'm super super excited.

[00:02:28]So, I'm going to just jump right into it if that's cool with you.

[00:02:30]>> Sounds great.

[00:02:31]>> All right. The last time you were on our show, we talked about the foundation of your work as a parent coach. What has been on your heart lately when it comes to parents today?

[00:02:40]>> Well, I think one of the most important things I think that parents need to know is that their nervous system is running their whole house. And until I realized that, until I got the right help, um I didn't realize that and my dysregulation was affecting everybody. And my kids were modeling it also. So, we had a lot of chaos in my home. And like I mentioned last time, you know how my family was in chaos. My older son had a lot of trauma from adoption and um we were a mess and I had no idea what regulation was. But when we got the right help and I've even mentioned that in some of my social media posts, when I got the right help and that was with your father actually who helped our family, he's awesome. And um and working through that. So what was really really important was when I did my own inner work. So when I understood, you know, my history, my trauma, my generational patterns, my experiences, because that's what comes out when we parent. And when I understood how to regulate and take care of my nervous system, that was a game changer. That changed everything for my family. Then I was able to show my children how to do that. And that's how we, you know, were able to get more connected and more calm, which made a huge difference.

[00:03:50]>> That's amazing. Yeah. That's like generic guy special, I'm sure. But I mean, just to see you do that is so amazing because now it's been interesting. Like my sister-in-law has a baby now, which is like the coolest thing. And seeing them learn to parent, like it really does challenge your nervous system a lot. And I guess like where do you see parents putting the most pressure on themselves right now?

[00:04:12]And do you think it's like more helpful or like hurting? Like what are your what's your take on that one?

[00:04:18]>> Well, I think I think parents are so busy. They a lot of the parents are both working now. They don't have a lot of time. They're stressed out at work.

[00:04:25]They're stressed out at home. And so that all comes through then in their parenting. And if they can find that release, if they can find that time to take self-care, take care of their nervous system, learn how to regulate, learn how to help their children regulate and process emotions, then I think they will have a much calmer home and less stress. But they bring that stress into the home and then they're hard on themselves, saying they're a terrible parent. They don't know what they're doing. But all they need is really is support. support, how to take care of that nervous system, how to understand, change generational patterns, how to catch that and go forward. So, I think that's the biggest challenge right now.

[00:05:03]>> Yeah. I mean, couldn't have said it better myself, of course. Yeah, that's awesome. And I think like Yeah, our internal world too is so busy all the time. I think like looking at my generation being parents again, like I think it's just sometimes being able to sit in that silence and stop and actually listen to your internal like we're just so crowded with social media.

[00:05:24]And I think a lot of parents feel very overwhelmed like they go on TikTok and it's like you should be doing this and doing that or they're very reactive. And so my question would be like what do you think is maybe one maybe two you you'll know better than me but what's one small shift parents can make today that could create immediate impact?

[00:05:45]>> Well I think the most important thing they can do is pause before they react.

[00:05:48]The pause is so powerful so important.

[00:05:51]Just pause and stop before you say anything you know and before you're reactive. And then you can go through other steps you know and we can talk about that but the pause is so powerful.

[00:06:02]just pause and give yourself a minute.

[00:06:04]Um because right away we want to be reactive and then we say things that we shouldn't say, things we don't want to say. We become the parent we don't want to be. But when we're disregulated, and you've talked about this too other many times on your um you know, podcast and also social media posts about, you know, we become reactive, right? We're acting out of the subconscious part of our brain because we're disregulated and then we're saying things that we don't want to say, don't mean to say. Um and we don't want to operate out of our subconscious. We want to be present. So there's a really good like Dan Seagull has a really great model of the brain and um what he does is like if you use your hand and this is the prefrontal cortex and like when we get disregulated we flip our lid, right? So then and we're working out of the bottom brain.

[00:06:49]We're you know we're on fight or flight our safety part of our brain and in order to get back online we need to regulate. And once we're regulated, then we can think out of the logical part of our brain. We're kindness, logic, and things exist. But that happens, right?

[00:07:03]We flip our lid. We speak out of our, you know, we think we're out of fear and out of safety. We think our brain's telling us we're not okay and our kids triggering us and we say all these things. So, we just need to pause before that happens. You feel it in your body.

[00:07:19]You can feel the tension. You can feel, you know, the heat rising. It's like a thermometer, right? Oh my god.

[00:07:23]>> Right. Just pause. just pause and then there's other steps to go through, but the pause is key.

[00:07:30]>> Yeah. And I don't think I mean I know for me like that is something I've been learning. It's just I think I've rushed getting like sometimes it's just like I want the two to do to be done. Just like the inner work. I'm like well if I work on this and it's done. It's like that's not really how regulation works. It's not like a oneshop like one and done thing. So yeah. And I we were talking the other day about um this acronym you put together that kind of ties into this and I know pause is super important and your acronym park which is P A RC. Don't want to get it twisted with the K at the end. So kind of walk us through that.

[00:08:06]Walk us through your guide. I don't want to get too ahead. I'm excited. But yeah, walk us through park.

[00:08:10]>> Before I walk us through park, I just want to say one more thing. You know, we parent from the inside out. So we're parenting based on our story, based on our experiences in our life, our generational experiences, generational patterns that we bring from many generations. So it's really important.

[00:08:24]Everybody wants to fix their kid. Like fix my kid. I admit when my child had all that trauma and was going through that, I thought, okay, can you fix them?

[00:08:31]Can you fix them? What I didn't realize is I had to fix me first. And if I if I could go through my inner work and do all that work, then I could connect with my child. I could understand why I react the way I do and change that. and have that awareness and that was a game changer and that's that's what I focus with on parents. Let's take a look at ourselves first and go on. So So I put this together the park method. So it's P is for pause most important part and then A is for acknowledge. Acknowledge what's going on in your body. Like I just said before like when you can feel your thermometer rising, you feel your body tense, you feel the pressure, you feel, you know that you were triggered.

[00:09:08]Acknowledge that. What's triggering me?

[00:09:10]Why does that upset me so much? What's going on? Because if you can acknowledge that, you can identify your triggers then eventually hopefully. So you know it's not the same as what happened in the past because you're reacting based on what happened in the a different experience from your past. And then the R is to regulate. Do something to regulate. Do some deep breathing. Um put your hands under cold water. There's so many things you can do to regulate your reset your nervous system, you know, but take the time to do that. And if if you have to walk away and say to your child, "Okay, I need a moment. I'll be right back." go do that, okay? And and just walk away. Do what you need to do. And then see, you're ready for connection.

[00:09:47]You're ready to come back and be in connection with your child. So, you want to connect before you correct. Because once you have connection, you can influence your children more. You can correct them. Saying, "Okay, I'm setting a boundary. When you talk to me that way, it's very disrespectful. I don't like it. I'll sit here right here with you, but but don't talk to me in that tone or don't, you know, if they're hitting somebody, we don't hit. Okay, I'll be right here with you. I'll sit you with you through it. I see you're feeling really frustrated, really upset, but we don't hit. So, you can enforce the boundaries and be calm and connected to do that and they'll listen more. And, you know, children under seven years old, they can't self-regulate. They don't have the development of the nervous system yet to do that. So, it's really important. They need our our nervous system to regulate. So, they're going to borrow our calm. But it's true for anyone in our house, even our teens.

[00:10:38]They need to borrow our calm. If I come into my house and I am not regulated, nobody in the house is regulated.

[00:10:45]>> And if I can't get that calm, how can I expect my children to do that? It's not possible. So, we set the tone and they model our behavior.

[00:10:55]>> I love that we set the tone, too. Yeah.

[00:10:57]I think it's like you can't expect someone to do something that you can't do yourself, too. Like, if we're expecting kids to be very, you know, calm and collected, we're like lids blown panicking. I just don't think that we would get very far. And that's such a a perfect acronym to be able to kind of sum up like here's step one, here's step two, because oftent times it's like we try to kind of pause or we kind of acknowledge and some people just don't know I think the things that actually bother them. So being able to like take a minute and say, "Oh, I I'm realizing this is totally about me. Like this is a trigger that I have is so important." So I think moving with that, you know, how can someone begin to start to recognize or maybe break generational patterns in their parenting?

[00:11:43]>> Well, it's so important to have awareness, to have that awareness. For example, I'll use myself an example. I grew up with a a mom who was a yeller.

[00:11:50]She yelled all the time. So I was a yeller all the time, would yell and you know, my kids even would just tune me out, right? So I needed to change that pattern. I wasn't connecting with them.

[00:12:01]I was yelling. I was impatient and so what I needed is that awareness. Once I had that awareness, I could pause, stop and then change the way I reacted to them, change what I said, um gave myself time. So that's that's huge. So awareness is number one. And then you have to be intentional about it and consistent. So you make the you get have the awareness. So you stop yourself, then you make the change. And after you make the change, you change those neurons in your brain, right? The neur neuroplasticity of the brain. And that's how you change behavior.

[00:12:32]And so and also then I'm you know can relate more to my children then they're not afraid to come to me either you know that's the other thing is um my kids are older now so 28 24 and 18 almost 19 and they tell me everything my youngest son you know and and our relationship had to have a lot of repair because when we were going through a hard time his behavior was really bad because of attention he wanted connection and I was so focused on my other son because of the trauma everything going on that my youngest son really missed out. So anyway, working on that repair, but we're so close now and he tells me things that he doesn't have to tell me.

[00:13:10]And I know he doesn't tell me absolutely everything because I don't need to know everything. No. Right. But when something happens, he's not afraid to tell me. And that's really good. You know, he's not afraid to call me if I have to go pick him up somewhere, you know, from a party or something. He's not afraid to tell me he got a speeding ticket. You know, that just happened recently. So, mom, I need to tell you this. Okay. You know, but he's taking responsibility for those things, but he's not but he doesn't have to tell me.

[00:13:37]You know what I mean? And he does tell me because we have that connection. And that's important because he's not afraid. I will yell at him. And I think that's what I try to impart on parents also. Is that what you want as your kids get older? Do you want them to act out of fear and behave out of fear and you power over them and because they're afraid to be punished, afraid of this?

[00:13:56]That's that's not good. And they're not act they're acting out of fear. or they're not doing it because it's the right thing to do and then they won't tell you things. It's almost like we're pushing them, you know, keep think to lie to us or do we want them to be able to come to us? Yes. Was I disappointed about things? Yes. But then we can talk about it and natural consequences are way worse. Like paying for that ticket is way worse than anything I could do to him, you know, have to, you know, to pay the fine or whatever, right? But um the natural consequences fall into place.

[00:14:23]And we can talk about things. Okay, you have the car. That's a privilege. Now you need to be more careful, right? you need to watch your speed. So, we can have those conversations and even the hard conversations about other things as teens, you know, there's a lot of hard things now that happen. So, being able to have those hard conversations and not worrying, you know, or them having to lie to me or hide things from me or being afraid, most importantly, being afraid to tell me anything. That's that's the key.

[00:14:50]>> That's so good. Yeah. I think it's so interesting too because I obviously, you know, like I tell my parents everything.

[00:14:57]So, it's nice to hear it from a parents perspective of how important that is.

[00:15:01]Like, and I think too, like parents obviously want to connect with their kids. Like, it's not like you don't want to know what's going on in his world and everything that's happening. That's so important to be able to actually have conversations that kind of have a little bit of a learning experience in him. I still think about my first speeding ticket. I have a playlist uh based on Josiah's from his first one. So, you know, that's so good. I think >> this wasn't the first. So, you know, that's >> Oh, no. Hopefully the last. That's what we'll hope for.

[00:15:30]>> Hopefully, you know, he's got to pay. But it's it's good because he's he comes to me and it's not even that he's even afraid at all. He's like, you know, because he knows he knows and we have that relationship. He knows that it was not good. But, you know, >> but I think he knows too that you have and it almost feels more so respectful, I guess, in a way because like I know my parents respect me. I know I was just saying the other day, my dad doesn't know sometimes what I post on social media because I'm I'm doing all our social media. And I think with parenting, not that I do it yet, but I think that's so important to just have respect for your kids and them to have respect for you is just so crucial because I don't think our family meetings as kids would have gone as well if I didn't respect my parents. So he respects you and that's so important.

[00:16:19]>> You want respect from your kids. You need to give them respect because they model what you do. And you can't expect your child to give you respect if you don't give that to them. And so that's so important. And that's why I believe you know empowered parenting. So you're parenting with you discuss things you set the boundaries you explain them. You tell them why and then you first you set values like your values and what you believe in and then you base boundaries off of that. So when you say no to things you know you can say well I understand like example he wants to go to this you know party or somewhere and I'm like I understand you really want to go but it's not a good idea. Not it just it doesn't fit in with our our values.

[00:16:57]too much of this is going on and I don't want you around it. And I think setting that up before he went away to college and having those conversations and things made a big difference. So I know when he's away that he can make decisions on his own because he's learned that and he's learned to make his own decisions. I didn't tell him what to do >> him make decisions with my guidance, you know, in so many words.

[00:17:22]>> Yeah. I think and it's so interesting because I don't know if people oftentimes think of parenting as like teaching and guiding but there I mean it's literally all the time I still ask my mom questions about things that I probably should know already and it's it's amazing that he looks at you and he has that like basis of knowing what to do in situations. So, I guess my next question would be if you could kind of like sit down with every parent for, I don't know, five minutes or something, what would you want them to truly understand?

[00:17:53]>> How to how to get regulated, how to regulate themselves.

[00:17:56]>> Yeah, that's so that's key to everything, I think. And that's one of the things your dad taught us when he came and worked with us is regulation because I had so much fear that I would lose my son, that he would, you know, leave our family, would be, you know, reject us. I think um that fear was taking over that I I couldn't I couldn't be calm, you know, and it was hurting everyone. So, I think regulation is key because and you know what, we can't always be regulated. We're not always going to be calm. You know, I admit I lose it sometimes, but the power of repair when I do and the parents can go back and repair and tell their child, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have yelled at you. I I'm sorry that I was so upset.

[00:18:35]I'm, you know, that's so powerful. Um, and it teaches them also, you know, the power of repair and how to apologize. I think that's really powerful. So, you know, we're not perfect. Nobody's looking for perfect parenting. Not possible. But just to try your best and repair when you make a mistake. And but regulation, that's the number one on the list is how to be calm.

[00:18:56]>> Yeah. I think I love that because uh Mike and I were just talking actually on this past week's episode and it's amazing how kids just kind of look at you and they just expect you to know everything and clearly I do not. And I was telling them the other day like I had a kid ask me something and I was like I don't know. They're like what do you mean you don't know? I was like I I don't know. Should we look up the answer? And then I taught them like how to find the answer on their own because it's so much more important I think to set people up or set your kids up set maybe you're mentoring someone up with the skills instead of just being like this is how it should be done and you need to do it this way or yeah like kind of scolding them. I think that what a great point. That's that's so so so important. Also, when our kids have issues, right, when they have a problem, not fixing it for them, but sitting with them in it, but letting them vent and talk about it and letting them plan how to how to solve the problem. And then if if you want to give advice, asking them, can I you want to know what I think? And and see what if they want the input, but just letting them know, I've got your back. I'm here with you. I'm not going to fix it for you, but you need to fix this. And sitting them, you know, with them through it because that's how they build resiliency. That's how they understand the world's not an easy world, right? And they need to figure out how do I get through things? I'm going to have hard days. How do I get through those hard days? What do I need to do? Because if we're always fixing it for our kids and putting them in a little bubble, that's not helping them, you know, and also how to process their emotions. Because I I got comments I did a post recently on social media about your children will show their worst behavior with who they feel safest with.

[00:20:33]I'm not saying that it's okay to have bad behavior, but there they're it's a nervous system reaction. When you feel safe, you can just let it all go. Just like when we're upset, we come home, we've had a hard day at work, we come home and we want to vent to our our closest person to us, right? We just want to let it out. And that's what kids do, but they don't always know how. And so it's not. And people say, "Oh, that's soft parenting. That's, you know, because they don't have they need more discipline. They need more punishment."

[00:21:00]And that's not the case. They need somebody to support their nervous system. They need someone to show them how to name their emotions and process them. If they're angry, anger is the primal emotion. We need to help them to process it so it doesn't build up. How can they process it? I'm here with you.

[00:21:15]I'll sit with you. I see you're very angry. So, you're upset. Let's talk about it. You know, and then it's not okay to hit me. It's not okay to yell at me, but I'm here with you. Let's let's get through this. And and then name by naming emotions and processing them that increases their emotional intelligence.

[00:21:30]And then it makes them only stronger and more resilient and able to deal with problems. So it's not soft parenting and it's not, you know, giving in. And also I always say to people, discipline is to teach, right? It's not to punish. It's to teach. So do you want to teach them and have them learn from their mistakes and and learn a lesson or do you want them to be afraid and be punished and take so many things away or whatever the punishment is? you know, it's it's it doesn't work because it doesn't apply to the situation.

[00:22:01]>> Yeah, we were just talking about that again the other day, too. Just like even timeout, like being leaving the connection when you have a kid and you're now saying, "Well, because you did this, now you don't get to connect anymore." And you're like setting these conditions instead of saying, "Hey, I unconditionally love you. However, I see this as a way that we can learn." And yeah, reframing it is so important. I think that goes with regulating too. You have to kind of reframe it to be able to even fully regulate. Well, >> when you time out, you right, like you said, you break connection. Especially with a child with trauma, a timeout is the worst thing because you're separating them. What you want is time in. You want to sit with them in it and have time in and talk about it and help them to calm and regulate. And when you send them away, you're saying, "I can't handle your big emotions. You know, I'm not going to deal with you. I don't, you know, it's not okay and it's not teaching them how to deal with it. So, it's just separation and that's not good. That's never helpful.

[00:23:00]>> Yeah. And it's it's like you're can you're making this pattern of behavior, too. You're saying, "Oh, this will happen and then you'll be in timeout.

[00:23:07]This will happen because nothing changes if nothing changes kind of thing, >> right? And they don't learn from it, right? They just they just and then they get disregulated even more when you separate them >> and and it's different if a kid is disregulated and they say, "Okay, I just want to go I want to go pet the dog."

[00:23:23]Like they they remove themselves situation or I want to go be with my stuffed animal or I want or a teen I just want to go outside and get some air. That's fine. You're not telling them get away from me. Time out. You know, they're choosing to take that time and that's that's healthy if they can take that time and you know help their nervous system. So yeah.

[00:23:42]>> Yeah. I was going to say like I think being able to acknowledge a kid saying that they need to step away would be so important and I think telling of being taught because how would they have known they could do that if they didn't have the safety within their family unit.

[00:23:58]Yeah, this is such a this is a fun topic. I love it. And yeah, so I think being able to regulate. So I guess moving forward with that, how can parents then teach and I guess maybe teach or model emotional intelligence in those everyday parenting moments?

[00:24:15]>> Parents can name their emotions. Like if I'm angry, I say I'm angry. I'm really angry about what happened today, talk about it. I'm frustrated. Also to be able to sit with their children and um teach them regulation, you know, let's let's let's take some deep breaths together. Let's go put our hands under cold water. Why don't we go for a walk together? Like teens, you know, um sometimes it's good to just get them up and moving and and out and and be able to talk about things and you know, not just, you know, people get so reactive and I see it all the time, especially like people I work with, they get so reactive like, "Oh, my child talks to me like this. That's not okay." Well, okay, maybe it's not okay, but there's better ways to handle it. Talk to them about it. Explain to them why it's not okay.

[00:24:58]But you got to do those things when they're calm, right? You can't do it when they're when they're disregulated.

[00:25:04]Same thing for young kids. Like you can do so many things to process anger. Like get them to do jumping jacks, get them to like squeeze a towel, pull it apart, right? Because that helps the anger like kind of go through their body. But in the times you need to practice that is when they're calm. Not in the moment.

[00:25:19]It's not going to it's not going to work. But you can have things set up and teach them, okay, when you're angry, you can do this or you can do this, you know, but you have to do it when they're calm because otherwise when the emotions are coming out, not they can't think.

[00:25:33]Like I said, when the brain goes offline, there's no logic. Yeah.

[00:25:38]>> Yeah. Yeah. And I think when they are calm, then it becomes again kind of talking about your youngest being able to have that as a basis instead of, you know, you had that before college. Now, you know, he has that decision-m skill to be able to, you know, kind of adjust or not be in situations he should shouldn't be in, you know, that don't align with the values. And you can't expect kids to know the right or wrong way if they're only getting taught in this like almost irrational way of thinking. So that's so crucial. Oh my goodness.

[00:26:08]>> And I know like with my youngest son, even my middle son, when they're disregulated, they're because their their personality, they just say things like what comes out of their mouth sometimes. And I just know now to just okay, let them let them go and then we'll re them back in. Sometimes they do say things that aren't nice, but they always know. Okay. Okay. When they once they let it all out, then they come back and apologize or, you know, um we talk about it. But yeah, that's just how they are. Um, and so they know and they know to apologize. They know where my oldest son is more internal where he process it inside. The other two process it as they say it >> that they do. Yeah. And I was I was thinking too, I I was very much like that as a kid. So timeout would have never worked. I probably would have just talked to myself in a corner. So it's so important to be able and I think too that goes with you are their safe place.

[00:27:02]So they know they can say those things and apologize and you still love them.

[00:27:07]Like there is a basis of knowing your character, knowing that you love them.

[00:27:11]That's amazing.

[00:27:13]>> There's kids and kids with trauma, you know, and when you give kids with trauma time out and just because, you know, being trauma informed because I have a son who had a lot of trauma. If you separate them, they they can just destroy things and do all kinds of things. And then parents are like, "And then they destroy this and they do this and it's because you separated them because you broke that connection and they felt alone and abandoned." And that's one thing you just never want to do, especially with a ch a trauma child especially. But it's not good for any any child to separate them.

[00:27:40]>> Now, I know I've asked you this before, but has your best day yet changed? Like what would that look like for you these days?

[00:27:49]>> Yeah. Well, my best day. I know. I don't think it's changed because now with my kids being older and grown up and I have a son in the Navy and he's deployed and things like that. When everybody can be together, that's the absolute best day.

[00:28:01]And I can just see the boys laughing together and spending time. That's the absolute best. And because we don't get that many days like that um now, but like we did get them over the holidays this year and it was great. And even my oldest and middle son used to always sleep together and they were laying on the couch together and they were saying, "Oh, this is like the old days." And it was really it was cute and they were laughing and um things like that. That's really special now because it's hard to get everyone, you know, everyone's growing up almost and except my youngest. He's almost there, but he's in college and he's away. He'll be home soon. But yeah, that's the best. That's the absolute best.

[00:28:39]>> Yeah, it's good to like practice what you preach. how much we enjoy time in because that I mean that would also be one of mine too. So what a great Yeah.

[00:28:47]What a great connection of all of it personally and professionally.

[00:28:51]>> Yeah.

[00:28:51]>> So I have to ask I need you to plug your amazing work. How can people continue learning from you with you working with you? What are your socials? Well, my social is always hopemindful growth on my website always hopemindfulgrowth.com.

[00:29:06]And then I have Facebook, Tik Tok, and Instagram. And I also have some free guides that I put together. I put down a calm down guide, you know, um, for younger kids, how to how to calm them down, how to regulate them that people can request and I can email that to them. I also have a deescalation guide and that's more geared toward teens like how do you de deescalate a situation when you're teen and you are arguing how to say certain things and and regulate and regulate them. So I have that and then I put together the part guide you know um how to regulate and pause and acknowledge etc. And so I have that guide that I also have that people can request and then um they can also request to work with me. Um you know I have I'm trauma informed. I have a lot of experience with that. But I work with all families. But but I do help parents really learn about regulation, how to create a calm home. Yeah. So they can find me on all those places.

[00:30:01]>> Yeah. And you guys should. So check Jody out. Jody, thank you for coming on today. This I mean, yeah, I could probably do an episode with you every week. I just enjoy the good conversation.

[00:30:12]Guys, I hope you got a lot out of this.

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[00:30:18]Wherever you're at, whatever you're doing, make this your best day yet. We will see you guys next time.