Five Pillars of Success । CH18 । EP 2 । Krishna Bhatta । Amitava Ghosh । धृति-उत्साह-समन्वितः

Added: 2026-05-19

[00:00:07][music] >> Om shanam bhavatu shanam bhunaktu saha viryam karavavahai tejasvinavadhitamastu ma vidvishavahai Om shanti shanti shanti shanti Let us sit down and study together through discussion we sharpen each other's intellect. May we not bear any ill will towards each other.

[00:00:41]Peace peace peace let peace prevail. As you said you know this is the summer summary of the Gita basically 18th chapter but we talked about sannyasa and tyaga last time.

[00:00:56]Uh but this time it is more practical.

[00:00:59]But it starts with you know it's the pancha etani mahabaho karanani nibodha me sankhye krtante proktani siddhaye sarva karmanam So I like the word sarva karmanam so it's not like a it's anything exclusive it's all inclusive.

[00:01:21]For all the karma in the world these are the five causes or five pillars or five uh things that determine uh it's very very emphatic. Yeah it is and it says basically based on Shankara these are uh Shankara within parenthesis Vedanta parenthesis closed uh how all actions have these five factors.

[00:01:47]Yeah.

[00:01:48]Right. When the when it says sankhye I mean does it say according to some logic logical or just you know Yes it rather than Sankhya yoga or something.

[00:02:01]Actually, Sankhya the word means knowledge. Yeah, that's what >> Rather spiritual knowledge. Yeah.

[00:02:10]Okay, Sankhya is basically it's a type of philosophical knowledge.

[00:02:14]Spiritual knowledge, philosophical knowledge. Right.

[00:02:18]Okay. So, if that's the sense here, I think you know, according to you know, it's like when we say according to literature.

[00:02:25]Yes. This is what we know, but this is um I like the word sarva karma as sarva karmanam.

[00:02:34]Uh because in in you know, in some other places sarva kaleshu, like this applies to Oh, that's all the time. All the time and all the >> Spanning all the time, this is spanning all the actions. Yeah. Adhisthanam tatha karta karanam cha prithag vidham.

[00:02:52]And then it says vividhas cha prithak chesta daivam chaivanya panchamam.

[00:03:00]So, the fifth factor is daiva, but the other factors uh Basically, if you look at karma the chapter on karma yoga Yeah.

[00:03:11]>> chapter two Yeah. verses 26 to 33 Yeah.

[00:03:15]Initially, Krishna says all the karmas are result of the gunas or the traits, okay? But then he goes on to different components of that actions, how the sense object, how how we get the information from that, how the our ego and desire complex, how our chitta where the which is the storehouse of information Okay? And how mind works with the traits, and how buddhi discriminates, and how through the organs of action the ultimate action happens. And that's the cycle, but then he talks about different components in little more detail and the functioning right here.

[00:04:05]Right. So, 247, the famous shloka. And that I tried to connect 247 with this one in some form. But before we do that, some people do um adhisthanam, they think it's the body. The seat of action.

[00:04:24]And this adhisthanam means the body. And karta is is the doer, which is, you know, me.

[00:04:32]Karanam cha prithagvidham, they talk about karanam as a sense, you know, sensory organs, senses, mind, or tools.

[00:04:42]Um and then prithak chesta. And they're talking about kind of getting spiritual attainment. That has been the classic interpretation. Um I have made an interpretation which I think is more practical, which I think is closer to what Krishna meant. But uh yeah, I'll let the public decide who listen to it and then Yeah. For me, that is the um that's a interpretation that I think, you know, So, why why don't you go ahead and elaborate on the practical part? And >> [clears throat] >> I will try to get onto the spiritual part. Perfect. So, uh the practical side, adhisthanam, is is the platform. So, the whole idea of connecting the 247 to this verse is that 247 says karmanevadhikaras te maphaleshu kadachana.

[00:05:35]So, the interpretation which I take away from that is that you do the karma, for in the result is not totally in your hand. Or the result is not totally of how you do the karma. There is more factors. And those more factors, I think, these five factors are the more factors that you can take care of. And even after that, the result is unpredictable.

[00:06:03]It's not in your hand. But what are the things you can take care of?

[00:06:08]Adhishthanam. So, um and there is nothing wrong or right in this uh interpretation. Adhishthanam is a platform. So, for a doctor, you know, what I can do at a bigger hospital is different than what I can do in a district hospital.

[00:06:28]It's not nothing wrong with that. At a district hospital, you can do a marvelous job, take care of people, but at a bigger institution, you can do research, you can, you know, spread the knowledge, teach people.

[00:06:44]So, you can do more things and uh uh in a company, you can do so much as in if you are a manager, but you can do more uh if you are the CEO. And the same in a country, you know, you can do somewhat as a governor of a state, but you can do more from president.

[00:07:06]So, this is Adhishthanam. Then Karta.

[00:07:09]Karta is you, doer. As a doer, it's not doership. As a doer, you should be trained. Like Arjun is a warrior. He's trained to do well. The same way, as a surgeon, you go and get training for the latest robotic surgery or or remote tele surgery, whatever there is.

[00:07:30]If you are do there, then you are more efficient if you have the training, proper training. So, that's the Karta part. Karanam.

[00:07:39]The tools. I mean, you go you know how to do robotic surgery, but if you don't have the robot, you will have to do open surgery. So, the tools or in a weapon in like Arjun's case and Karan's case and and the whole in their weapon superiority also meant a lot.

[00:07:58]Uh or the proper training of the weapons or the tools of the trade at let's say.

[00:08:03]And then uh we would pratyaksha.

[00:08:08]So, yeah, you may have to do sam, dam, dand, you know, it's like you may have to say, you know, like political uh game or strategy.

[00:08:19]And uh if that doesn't work, then you may have to have the war. I mean, if nothing works, that may be the solution.

[00:08:27]Uh and if it comes there, then Krishna is not going to walk away from it. He tries to avoid the war, but if it happens, he's there.

[00:08:37]Um and then the last one which um daivam. And daivam, you know, some people will say luck, some people will say, but you know, what is that luck favors the brave or fortune favors the brave?

[00:08:53]So, you have to be able to go there at it. And also, if you are more aligned with the universe, the universe is likely to kind of support you.

[00:09:06]So, yes, you can do something about it.

[00:09:08]I mean, daivam is not something that you can simply say, "Oh, it's it's not in my control."

[00:09:14]I think daivam also if you align with dharma or align with the universe, align with the kind of, you know, what is good for the society or the country. I mean, in Mahabharat times, we have these stories that um this arrow is coming to Arjun and Krishna presses the, you know, the chariot and the the arrow avoids it.

[00:09:41]In our life as well, we do get minor miracles. And I have had so many minor miracles in my life, which seem like a very small thing, but but, you know, propelled me to a different level.

[00:09:54]So, minor miracles happen. We don't know what, you know, whether it was uh just luck or whether it was by design because we had been, you know, either intensely desiring from inside or intensity of my thoughts or wishes or, you know, sankalp or or some alignment um that hump uh happens. So, this is my kind of, you know, short interpretation of this.

[00:10:25]Uh so, yeah, go ahead and tell the, you know, the spiritual side of the interpretation.

[00:10:31]Okay. So, basically, the cha- in chapter two, from 20 to 20 six, uh he talks about how actions are generated. We cannot do without action as long as we are living. Yeah. That he mentioned. And then different kinds of thing. And he mentions that it is because of the gunas, which is in when we are embodied, we are bound by gunas.

[00:11:01]Yeah. Because because the body is made of prakriti or the natural element.

[00:11:07]Okay. And natural element when it is embodied, it it is guided by gunas. That is the inherent property of the of the natural element. So, then he talks about the effect of sense object, which is sense how we sense.

[00:11:27]And how our ego, by by ego, is the doership what I I'm the doer type of thing. Okay, and the body is the field of action which is so Krishna mentions in chapter 13.

[00:11:45]It is the field of action. So, how the field of action gets arranged by various factors.

[00:11:52]Okay. And there how our traits also affect our thought processes our conditioning affect our thought process.

[00:12:03]Okay.

[00:12:04]However, our spiritual knowledge which is from the Sham Yoga or Brahma Gyan that modify or Buddhi that modifies this functioning.

[00:12:16]So, from sense object to sensations or attachment to it, different factors work there as ego desire complex and our conditioning which is there as a memory in Chitta and then there is Gunas at the the prevalent trait at that particular point. And then the filtration by the spiritual knowledge and the final action. Now, it all depends upon what is the degree of spiritual knowledge we have.

[00:12:51]Okay, and how much filtering we can do.

[00:12:55]So, so that is the knowledge from that is that's why in my mind that is the reference from Sham or the Brahma Gyan.

[00:13:02]Okay. Or Vedanta. Mhm. That's that's my point. Thank you.

[00:13:06]So, that spiritual knowledge knower is the Atman and the field of knowledge is our body that is made of natural elements.

[00:13:16]Okay. Now, from there coming back to this particular verse that you have interpreted the pragmatic part of it.

[00:13:24]Yeah. The spiritual part of it is that where cut Adhishthanam is the entire embodied self.

[00:13:34]Okay. Embodied physical body.

[00:13:36]Body physical body. Okay. Karta is my ego desire complex which is makes us think we are the doer. Okay. Karanam are the tools. What are the tools?

[00:13:48]Gyanendriyam, that's sense organs and the organs of action. Karmendriyas. Then comes the endeavor.

[00:13:57]Okay.

[00:13:59]Different kind of endeavors.

[00:14:01]And different kind of different methodology. Yeah. This is where the judgement comes on how we modify our thought process.

[00:14:11]Yeah. Our Siddhi or Sadhana, you can do that.

[00:14:13]>> Yes.

[00:14:14]Yes. Mhm. Okay.

[00:14:16]So So that it is. And then at the end, there is also external factor which to some extent we can control. Yeah. But we cannot control all all the time.

[00:14:29]>> Sure. Yeah. Okay. So this is how the whole cycle of sense object to action happens within ourselves. Yeah. Okay.

[00:14:42]>> No, I I I think you know, you are giving that interpretation and that's the classic interpretation even Shankaracharyas brought Advaita in this >> That's why I mentioned it's the spiritual part of it. Yeah. And here is the pragmatic part how we apply in the life. Yeah. Yeah. I mean that's that's how I see it, but you know, I'm not saying that the other interpretation because some great great knowers and you know, saints have given that interpretation.

[00:15:12]Um But coming to the next one which I love.

[00:15:18]Um Cuz Krishna is doesn't leave anything kind of, you know, hanging, you know, so he says sharir wang mano bhir yat karma prarabdha te nara You know, the body, the speech, and the mind, these are the three things they nyayam va viparitam va panchayte tasya hetavah nyayam va viparitam va, you know, it's like for lack of any other way to say whether it is Yudhisthira who is on the nyaya side or whether it is Duryodhana viparīt it applies to both.

[00:16:05]The same thing applies to both.

[00:16:08]So, even in a spiritual sense or in my pragmatic sense actually Duryodhana has an edge because he has the platform.

[00:16:19]He has kartha, means, you know, warriors like himself and you know, many others.

[00:16:27]Karanam, I mean, the Karna had superior tools.

[00:16:32]You know, Krishna's strategy worked, but he had some superior tools.

[00:16:38]And then prithak vidham, I mean, Shakuni was a great strategist.

[00:16:44]I suppose if there was something he was weak on is daivam, I mean, the he was not aligned to dharma, he was not aligned to the universe. He was more of a ego thing that you were talking about, and there is more of that coming up. It's a beautiful section we are doing today.

[00:17:04]Krishna, can I Five factors applies to both of them.

[00:17:09]Yes, and there the word nyaya is very important because the action that nyaya Yeah.

[00:17:17]>> or the being just Yeah. Okay. Being just, that is a function of our conscience or buddhi or vivek or whatever you want to call. Okay. And that is the discrimination. So Duryodhana has all the five things but he lacks what is in called nae. Yeah. That's he's on the vipreet opposite opposite of nae. I don't know. Yes.

[00:17:44]Yes. People who think I am the doer.

[00:17:47]That's what you were saying.

[00:17:49]People who think I'm the doer don't know, you know, the truth.

[00:17:55]Or don't get very far basically. That's, you know, We we see that again and again in previous chapters. He has talked about Yeah. that it is the ahankara or that ego Mhm. which clouds our knowledge.

[00:18:10]Yeah.

[00:18:11]He previously he called it like a dust on the mirror.

[00:18:14]Yeah. Okay. And and and then this ahankara or that doership he also in the previous chapter mentioned how to get rid of that to get to the real knowledge which is understanding our inner nature is divine. Our atman is not affected.

[00:18:35]Okay. And in in true sense we are atman.

[00:18:38]So the source of our conscience or vivek or buddhi is basically atman.

[00:18:46]Yeah.

[00:18:47]That is definitely true. But those who think I'm the doer, they don't know what, you know, real >> Exactly. yatharth. They don't know the real truth.

[00:18:57]Once people think that Yeah.

[00:18:59]When people think doer, that's the that's where the break in the system happens. Yeah.

[00:19:05]Yasyaham na hankrito bhavo Yeah.

[00:19:10]buddhir yasya na lipyate Yes. So those who don't have that ego that I'm the doer and whose booty is not attached to the outcome.

[00:19:29]So these people, even if they are killing, they are neither the killer nor they have got any binding.

[00:19:40]And he tells that to Arjun because Arjun is guilt when it started, the Arjun moment, it was because [clears throat] he thought he was the killer and he then will have a binding of you know, what will be the fall from killing, you know, he will be suffering those.

[00:20:01]And here comes Krishna and says not hunting not nibat yet.

[00:20:07]It does important. It's something like this thing just came this thing really just came in my mind. It's like a CEO firing a worker, okay?

[00:20:21]>> Yeah.

[00:20:21]The CEO has got to look at the bigger picture, how the company is functioning and all that. Yeah. He may have the feeling for the worker, okay? Yeah. At human level, he tries to compensate as much as possible. Yeah.

[00:20:36]>> But on the other hand, he cannot keep that employee in the system because they will make a mess and that's what >> [laughter] >> that's what Duryodhana is making a mess.

[00:20:48]So he has to be >> Yeah, I think you gave a very good example because I was reading today one of the big company corporate is saying, you know, CFO that there will be layoffs.

[00:21:00]But the layoff they are saying that they will have severance package. They will try to be, you know, nice about it, but the company cannot survive. So, they have to do that and um that's you know, that firing is not going to be nahanti nanu bandate. So, they should not be a you know, fall back for that, you know.

[00:21:25]Yeah. It There is There's no guilt to this action by the CEO because he is doing he's trying to maintain an order. It is not his personal vendetta.

[00:21:39]Right. Yes. So, there is no Yeah, that's a uh >> So, he's not tied >> na lipyate. So, they are not firing just because they hate you.

[00:21:49]That's right. Yeah. No. No, that's a very good point here.

[00:21:54]This one I I is It took me some time to understand.

[00:22:00]Gyanam geyam parigyatha trividha karma chodana.

[00:22:05]You know, it's like gyanam is knowledge, geya is worth knowing, right?

[00:22:12]And parigyatha, the knower.

[00:22:14]So, he talks about you you talk about gyan, you know, gyan yog is like you know, higher in Gita in general.

[00:22:22]But he says that these are the you know, cognitive triad, you know, why action begins.

[00:22:29]Because of these you know, you should have the knowledge and geyam and gyatha.

[00:22:35]And then karanam karma kartenti.

[00:22:38]Uh so, these are the three uh karma sangraha.

[00:22:43]And this is the execute execution happens. Karanam, you need the tools.

[00:22:48]You need to do the karm and somebody doer should be there.

[00:22:51]So, if you are not doer, there is no karm.

[00:22:54]I mean, so it in a way while we are alive, then only we can do karm.

[00:23:02]If there is no physical body, you know, the karta bhava is not there, but >> But no physical you still need the karta to do it.

[00:23:13]So, you need the body to be able to do any karma or use a tool.

[00:23:20]No physical body, no physical action. No No physical body, no action. No. Yeah.

[00:23:28]So, that >> Yeah, you can't even think, so. And then he takes three out of those.

[00:23:35]gyanam karmam cha karta cha So, geya, which is, you know, knowable, uh parigyatra, you know, it's like the knower.

[00:23:48]He leaves them out.

[00:23:50]And then karanam, tools, also he leaves that out because they are not under the influence of gunas.

[00:23:58]So, what are the three things that are under the influence of guna? And I think this this whole thing up to 28 is amazing, I mean, that you know, for me, I mean, it's like it has been eye-opener. Because many times we say, you know, what should we do?

[00:24:15]What should we know?

[00:24:17]And, you know, what >> [clears throat] >> uh what should we kind of uh uh How should we behave?

[00:24:28]So, these are the three questions always there. So, he doesn't say do this or do that do do that, but he say divides them into three three portions. sat sat gun rajo gun and, you know, tamo gun that we have learned before, but I think this is the most practical application of those here.

[00:24:50]Uh that he puts.

[00:24:52]So, gyanam karmam cha karta. So, these three things can be divided into those three. Our Our actions are modulated by these three types of Yeah. Not only action. He talks about these three.

[00:25:07]Action is one. Gyan is also. And and how you behave. You know, you as a doer, as a karta.

[00:25:15]>> absolutely right. Yes.

[00:25:17]Sarva bhuteshu yena ekam bhavam avyaya mikshate.

[00:25:24]You know, this is more like non non-duality.

[00:25:29]It is non-duality. This one. One who sees a person or an individual who sees oneness in everything. Yeah, integrated analysis, you know. He sees the wholesome. He sees you know, it's like all together, right? This reminds me a verse from Isha Upanishad. Yeah.

[00:25:50]>> Okay.

[00:25:52]Yasmin sarvani bhutani atman aiva anupashyati.

[00:25:59]Tatra ka moha ka shoka ekatvam anupashyatah. Yeah.

[00:26:04]>> Okay. It's very similar, right? And then other one says yasmin sarvani bhutani ekatvam vijanatah Sarva bhuteshu chatmanam yato na vijugupsate. One who knows that you and I in our spiritual being came from the same source, how can I hide myself from you? But that means how can I think separation from you? Yeah.

[00:26:38]Okay. And that's the that's the saktik bhava.

[00:26:43]Well, that's what he's saying. Sarva bhuteshu yena ekam ekam, right?

[00:26:48]>> Ekam. Ekam.

[00:26:50]And bhavam avya mikshate.

[00:26:53]Avibhaktam.

[00:26:55]vibhaktesu There is no division, right?

[00:27:00]In in in in jnanam siddhi satvikam That knowledge. So, if you have that kind of viewpoint that viewpoint right? Basically viewpoint or jnana is similar.

[00:27:13]>> Yeah, that is basically awakening of the conscience, awakening of the buddhi.

[00:27:18]Yeah.

[00:27:19]Okay.

[00:27:21]Then he goes to the next one and he doesn't say one is superior or something.

[00:27:25]>> No, no, no. He is just classification. Yeah.

[00:27:28]prithaktvena tu yan jnanam So, the one who sees everybody as it you know different and then he has this feeling that you know me mine right?

[00:27:42]And me mine and then >> And me mine kind of Yeah.

[00:27:45]>> Or or he likes somebody, he does dislikes somebody like that. So, once you have separation That's right. Then you will have to have that hierarchy, you know, I like this one, I like that one. You know, today I like this one, tomorrow I like someone else.

[00:28:02]>> So, in in this particular verse it talks about the shortcoming of duality.

[00:28:09]Yeah.

[00:28:11]I know and what duality does, that's what basically.

[00:28:14]So in in the satvik you see unity in diversity.

[00:28:19]In the rajasik you see fragmented diversity.

[00:28:23]Yes. And uh in tamasik you see distorted.

[00:28:28]Everything distorted everything >> [laughter] >> So fragmented diversity and then distorted everything is distorted.

[00:28:38]And that is the kind of uh he's talking about the um know knowledge part then then he talks about the karmas, you know, the niyatam sanga rahitam. So, sanga rahitam is non-attached, right? Yes.

[00:28:53]>> Niyatam means, you know, some people say according to scripture or, you know, niyatam means what you are supposed to do, you know, it's like Actually, niyatam in Sanskrit in this place means all the time.

[00:29:06]Niyatam. Niyatam kuru karmani, like that.

[00:29:09]>> Yeah.

[00:29:09]Okay.

[00:29:10]>> Niyatam karibhi, so what you are destined to do or what you should be doing.

[00:29:15]Or and rag dwesh, you know, rahit, you know, so do that.

[00:29:20]And aphal prepsuna, you know, you are not attached to the phala.

[00:29:28]Karma. So, these are the classification of the satvic.

[00:29:32]So, actually, if you really look at it, it is basically the the sthita-prajna state of as described in chapter two.

[00:29:43]Yeah, basically. But, you know, I mean, is non-attached to the, you know, to the karma and non-attached to the phala. I mean, basically, those are the two, you know, and rag dwesh, you know, of course, is important as well. So, all the good qualities, you know, that that do the satvic. Rajasic is a lot of effort.

[00:30:10]Um yattu kama kamet suna karma, you know, this may you are attached. Sakam karmin away.

[00:30:20]And uh ahamkarena vappuna, you know, you have some ahamkara.

[00:30:27]Kriyate bahu balayasam, you know, you are making big efforts in And that's a raj yoga.

[00:30:36]I mean, we talk raj yoga as if it is kind of uh, lower, but most of us have this sat- come come.

[00:30:46]You see, what I think he doesn't talk about Raja Yoga here. He talks about the feature of Rajasic Rajasic, sorry. It's not Raja Yoga, you're right.

[00:30:59]But, what I'm saying is that most of our karmas, if I look around and me, you know, when we were going to medical school, doing our thing, does fall into this. Even Arjun is going to fight, or Bhim going to fight, I mean, you know, you can say that there is a major majority of the component is rajas.

[00:31:23]Rajas karma.

[00:31:25]Rajasic karma. Yeah, rajasic basically >> inclination, right?

[00:31:31]Well, if you were to pure rajasic, there is no not really satvic, because because they are always attached to the fruition of the action.

[00:31:42]So, basically, it is ego desire driven action Yeah. also attached to the result of the action.

[00:31:52]So, that is rajas.

[00:31:54]Yeah, so what I'm saying is that most of us when we do, I mean, it's good to talk about Gita that, you know, we we should all be satvic. And we should all get to moksha, but majority of us fall into a category where our karma is rajasic.

[00:32:11]And mostly rajasic with satvic inclination, sometime tamasic, you know.

[00:32:17]Uh, I'm tempted to give you an example.

[00:32:20]I heard a lecture Yeah.

[00:32:22]>> by Sarvapriyananda, and he was talking about this one. So, there are many, many good works done by very, wealthy people. Yeah.

[00:32:34]>> They give, they donate, okay, different places. They have foundation, okay? And the motive behind that is to It's good work. No question about that, okay? But, they may want to have their name in there.

[00:32:50]Okay? Or recognition.

[00:32:52]Or some financial benefit, tax benefit, or whatever it is, okay? But, the point is they give the funds, and it helps people. It's good work.

[00:33:04]Okay? So, they are doing good karma, good action.

[00:33:08]But, they are not karma yogi because they are looking at the result. So, that is the difference.

[00:33:14]>> They have a motive behind giving.

[00:33:16]>> a motive behind it. So, they are They have got all the rajas, but they do not have the sattvic.

[00:33:22]Well, I think that's why Krishna is saying all this because you know, somebody may look like he's doing a good work, but what is the motive behind, you know, that gyan or Exactly. Yeah. So, he's he's giving that thing, you know, so that it is clear to people that uh what the act itself may not reflect what the, you know, the person is. So, there's something to be known, and that's why he's probably picked these three things: gyan, karma, and karta.

[00:33:57]So, I You talk about gyan, and then, you know, I heard one of his stories again. And which I I love that story because uh somebody was going to write a book on peace.

[00:34:16]And he's walking in, say, New York, and there's people who are protesting for peace.

[00:34:23]But, when he looked at them, they looked so angry.

[00:34:27]So, these peaceful protests by angry people.

[00:34:32]And and so what yogis I mean is that Rajasik or Yes, it is very much Rajasik. Right.

[00:34:41]>> Because in Rajas the good work is done there's a always a desire behind it. So you have what emotional upheaval in there. Yeah.

[00:34:50]So that is that's Rajas.

[00:34:52]Yeah, so so that's what uh Krishna is saying that your karma can be you know three kinds as well. Um and then um this Tamasic is a bigger description.

[00:35:04]Anubandham You know, basically this person doesn't know what the consequences are. What I what he's doing he doesn't know that he may go to jail or he you know, he may be reprimanded or he may I don't know. Kshayam uh he doesn't know that there is Kshayam.

[00:35:23]Ahinsam means there is harmful.

[00:35:26]Um and then anap ekshya um he doesn't consider and there's no question of mohat being delusional paurusham you know, it's like he thinks you know, this is great he's capable of doing it.

[00:35:43]I mean all these none of these sound good, you know.

[00:35:47]Basically he has got no sense of judgment at all. Yeah, no.

[00:35:51]>> And and and he is acting basically on his on his delusional desires.

[00:36:00]Yeah.

[00:36:01]Or impulsive I don't know. Impulsive impulsive impulsive ignorant delusional whatever you want to call. But basically you see the difference between Rajas and this Tamas is that Rajas is still very intelligent. They are very hard working.

[00:36:17]They have goal. Tamasic has got neither of them.

[00:36:21]This is where I think uh Gita shines. Muktasango anahamvadi and Mukta Sanga So, this is now the karta, the doer.

[00:36:36]And of course, you know, he's not talking about doership because you know, you can be a doer as a agent of the deed that, you know, you always use that word. But as a doer, as a karta, we can be of three categories.

[00:36:48]First is, you know, sattvic. So, sattvic Mukta Sanga Sanga. You know, it's non-attached. Non-attached. Yeah.

[00:36:58]Anahamvadi.

[00:37:00]So, it is a nice word.

[00:37:03]I really am.

[00:37:05]No ahankar. No ahankar, you know. No ahankar, you know. I mean, Dhriti Utsaha Samanvita.

[00:37:14]So, it's Utsaha and Dhriti and Samanvita, you know, it's like what we say Samatva Yoga, you know, in the previous chapters.

[00:37:24]And Siddhy Asiddhyo Nirvikara.

[00:37:28]Unaffected by success or failure.

[00:37:31]So, he's these four things uh these four classic things who doesn't want to be like that, you know? It's like I This is This is the dream person, right?

[00:37:45]I'm not there all the time.

[00:37:48]>> [laughter] >> Krishna, when we are young, okay, it is the rajas which attracts us, okay?

[00:37:54]And you pursue that. But when we acquire some knowledge and experience, Everyone is four, right? Then we understand the importance of sattvic. The top four qualities, right?

[00:38:07]>> Yes. Mukta Sanga Anahamvadi Dhriti Utsaha Samanvita Siddhy Asiddhyo Nirvikara.

[00:38:18]Yes. Which means again non-attached non-egotistical you know, using the Driti means Buddhi, right?

[00:38:34]Driti Well, actually I'm not remembering the exact word for it. Driti is not not exactly Buddhi, but anyway >> steadiness, it says, okay. Yeah, steady.

[00:38:45]Yeah, steadfast. You can use that word.

[00:38:48]Steadfast. Enthusiastic you know, Utsaha and then Samanvita you know, it's like All together. Yeah, all together.

[00:39:01]And uh unaffected by success and failure.

[00:39:05]That's beauty.

[00:39:07]It's like Again, I go back to that chapter second two >> Yeah. in the in Sthita-prajna says the same thing.

[00:39:18]>> [cough] >> Okay, [clears throat] unattached, labha Dvandvatitam Yeah, but you know Yeah, labha-labha, jaya-jaya, you know.

[00:39:29]But it doesn't have this word that here, Driti-utsaha-samanvita.

[00:39:34]No, no. Utsaha you know, enthusiastic. I mean, so this is a doer, fully engaged in action.

[00:39:42]Fully and yeah. Yeah.

[00:39:45]But not distorted by ego or outcome of results. Because his his his mind is not like a rudderless boat. Yeah, and I used that before.

[00:39:58]In another verse is that it is inaction inaction in action. Yeah. He's doing everything, but he's not attached emotionally to that. He has got full focus.

[00:40:11]And his emotions are not riding up and down. Yeah. His mind is totally under control.

[00:40:17]Yeah, no. I mean, it's the Sitapragya, you know, the takeaway for me was yes, you were, you know, it's like equipoised, but you were kind of, you know, nice and sitting quietly. No, no, no, no, no, no.

[00:40:33]Here there is a tower.

[00:40:34]>> no, no. You know. No, no, Krishna, I have to point out one thing.

[00:40:39]Sure.

[00:40:39]>> You in chapter two, in Sitapragya Yogi, Yeah. okay.

[00:40:45]It one verse says that after having this knowledge, the guy does not stay in the higher plane. He comes back in the society and does the work work exactly like anybody else. But he's a nice guy, you know.

[00:41:01]Here it's like more energy. I mean, there is energy in this verse, you know.

[00:41:06]He He's not I mean, I'm saying he is doing everything that physical work has to be done. Yes. But he's not attached.

[00:41:15]Okay.

[00:41:16]Okay, got it. Point taken. Mhm.

[00:41:20]Then, of course, the Rajas Ragi, you know, attached. I mean, he's got He wants to achieve a result. He He wants to do a karma because he likes it, you know.

[00:41:33]Karmaphalaprepsu.

[00:41:36]He wants a good good result. Lubdha.

[00:41:41]Greedy.

[00:41:43]>> [laughter] >> Hinsatmakah.

[00:41:47]You know, if I have to fight, I have to fight.

[00:41:50]Ashuchih.

[00:41:52]Harshashokanvitah.

[00:41:55]So, he's he's goes through ups and downs >> ups and downs he goes through like most of us. Yes. You know, and you know, you were right, you know, when we were younger, we felt more like this, you know.

[00:42:11]Sometimes we may want to you know, get into the other one, you know, the higher um uh circle. Um but well, I shouldn't say higher circle, but a different circle, but you know, it's a desirable circle.

[00:42:28]Oh, I love this. I love I love the description here because uh he's so neutral though. I mean, he says this without any emotion, you know, just these are the three types, you know, it's like Yeah. I I mean, it's very difficult as long as we are embodied, it is very difficult to be without emotion. I would say uh emotion well checked.

[00:42:56]Yeah.

[00:42:57]Yeah, but inside you're boiling. I mean, that's not No, no, no, no, no, they're not boiling. The the the rajasic >> [clears throat] >> the rajasic rajas may appear sattvic, but inside they're boiling.

[00:43:09]The fundamental difference between the sattvic and the rajasic is that sattvic doesn't have the emotional torture or upheaval, but rajas has >> is boiling.

[00:43:24]And So, now I like this. I I like the description. It's it's very very to the point, you know. Are you Now, he goes to the tamasic, ayukta, undisciplined, prakrit, crude, stabbed the her.

[00:43:42]Actually, it is it is not the exact literal meaning, but yes, what you just said is it carries that sense.

[00:43:50]And then shatta or shatto, which is kind of deceitful, Mhm.

[00:43:56]naskrita kola saha.

[00:44:00]You know, it's like uh malicious.

[00:44:03]So, he has all those qualities that nobody wants, you know.

[00:44:07]Nobody wants to be tagged on, right?

[00:44:10]Vishada I wouldn't say quality is all the things.

[00:44:13]>> cha you know, procrastinator karta tamasa uchyate.

[00:44:20]So, yeah.

[00:44:23]It has a >> Actually, all those are those are all disqualifications.

[00:44:28]In [laughter] our sense, in the society. Yeah, you know, it's like do not do list, you know? Do not be like that, you know?

[00:44:36]So, do not be like that ayukta, which is undisciplined.

[00:44:41]Well, I don't know. Sometimes I I may be undisciplined.

[00:44:44]Prakritah, crude stabdha, you know, it's like a stubborn.

[00:44:49]Shattha, deceitful, dishonest naishkritikaha malicious alasa, which is lazy vishadi despair, you know, it's like always a negative >> Depressed, negative display.

[00:45:07]And dirghasutri, procrastinator. Those three are Those three sometimes I have.

[00:45:13]Sometimes I am lazy, I think.

[00:45:16]Krishna, but you know when you are lazy, the tamasic doesn't know even.

[00:45:21]Okay.

[00:45:23]Okay.

[00:45:24]So, So, so you know when you are lazy, you're being lazy, you correct yourself.

[00:45:29]But Or I I'm knowingly lazy. This morning I don't want to Well, like yes, yes.

[00:45:35]But I mean from from our roots, we have got that little bit in the epigenetics.

[00:45:45]>> [laughter] [clears throat] >> Yeah, I mean, it's like a I think we should, you know, these three, you know, it's like a what do you want to be, what you are, what you don't want to be, right? That's right. Exactly. You summarized it just in Yeah.

[00:46:05]So, the ideal is uh I love this. Mukta Sanga, non-attached.

[00:46:24]Anaham Vadi, you know.

[00:46:26]No ahankara.

[00:46:30]Together, you know, it's like you know, I do want to have a positive energy.

[00:46:36]And then, not affected by good, bad, ugly, right?

[00:46:42]Yeah. I remember that verse in chapter 15 we went through that upside down tree. And then he says that you you just cut it down.

[00:46:53]Uh Asanga Shastra and Adhridhena, you know.

[00:46:56]And you cut it down cut it down. To me, I never thought that Asanga Shastra, and I mean, like non-attachment is can have energy.

[00:47:07]Non-attachment has a lot of energy. That is the People think non-attachment is a flat effect. That is not true. Right.

[00:47:15]>> Non-attachment makes you do everything have a makes you look at in a global view.

[00:47:22]Uh you can judge [clears throat] it lot better. You do not have emotional upheaval. And you are totally focused to achieve Yeah.

[00:47:30]>> goal.

[00:47:31]So, that's very important about non-attachment.

[00:47:34]>> I think I think this is a you know, that's the section that we did this the last verse that what you want to be, what you want to do, and what you want to know.

[00:47:45]I think this is the I mean, best place for that, you know, for anyone like uh uh it's like what is worth knowing, and what is worth doing, and who you want to be.

[00:47:58]And uh I think >> And what not to do.

[00:48:01]>> [laughter] >> What not to be.

[00:48:03]>> What not to do, what not to be.

[00:48:05]What not to know, you know, so Yeah, that's uh Remember in in Karma or Yeah, in that chapter, we we read about Karma Akarma Vikarma. That's what it Yeah, that's uh Yeah, but here, I think this is >> It's very clear cut here. It's a very, you know, it's like a clear cut, you know, Yes.

[00:48:25]>> pointed. I mean, it's like five points for these, five points or six points. I mean, it's like It's it's just uh mind-blowing.

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