Are the Knicks the Worst NBA Champions of the Last 20 Years?

[00:00:04]If you ain't been checking my stats, you probably miss where I'm at right now.

[00:00:06]I'm at this no time to relax. Been the man now to the m stopping me bull you rich defending me literally don't exist whether court the field the stadium rank if it's game on with the [ __ ] got a shot got people nicknaming me on my team switch >> all right >> yeah enough is enough >> you know why we here >> I want to welcome you to the corner convo this is episode 300 00.

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[00:00:47]>> And to my immediate left, we have the internet's new number one hater, AB, in the building. What's really good?

[00:00:52]>> Everybody need a best friend that's going to hate on them. And that's me.

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[00:00:58]>> Listen here, man. We are your cultural commentators, man. We coming to you week after week uh trying to actually figure out how the culture is feeling. What mood is the culture in this week?

[00:01:11]>> And the culture this week, I'm going to call this receipt mode.

[00:01:15]>> Uh >> oh.

[00:01:16]>> Knicks fans got receipts.

[00:01:18]>> Hello receipts.

[00:01:19]>> Brunson got receipts.

[00:01:20]>> Hello receipts.

[00:01:22]>> LeBron got influence receipts.

[00:01:24]>> Receipts.

[00:01:26]>> Even Rich Paul has uh contract receipts.

[00:01:28]>> Receipts.

[00:01:30]>> Uh it's just a lot going on out here, man. Uh Jay-Z has receipts. Drake has receipts.

[00:01:37]>> And uh we're gonna unpack it all from our POV.

[00:01:43]>> Yeah.

[00:01:44]>> And the other day >> the Knicks went on ahead and got the Spurs clean [ __ ] up out of there.

[00:01:49]>> Got him out of there like belt ass. Got him out of there.

[00:01:52]>> Yeah, man. Uh 53 years since the Knicks have won. that has made New York, the rats, everybody involved in all the five burrows and sub burrows and and burrows upon burrows >> thirsting >> projects upon projects.

[00:02:10]>> I've seen some egregious >> on >> behavior in New York. Okay, but >> let's go ahead. I'm going to give him a [applause] >> give y'all that. Y'all earn that. You got a championship. Okay. Uh, the only person that had y'all win in the ship in media that I know, uh, maybe that y'all would recognize is Charles Barkley. Said it at the beginning of the season. He said at the beginning of the season.

[00:02:33]>> Damn, I got to see who the odds was.

[00:02:34]>> And Shaq Shaq had Cleveland, so we see how that worked out.

[00:02:38]>> I had Cleveland, too. Coming out the East.

[00:02:40]>> Yeah.

[00:02:40]>> Wrong.

[00:02:41]>> Wrong again.

[00:02:42]>> I know. The curse of LeBron.

[00:02:44]>> Is this the biggest New York basketball moment since 1973?

[00:02:50]>> Absolutely. They have no other moments, bro. They have no other moments to go off of in basketball. Just got the lies they tell us about why New York is so great. They just got a star of the crowd of why New York is so great. They got a bunch of other myths. Myths ms myths, you know, of why New York is the place to be, why the magic of Madison Square Garden. Oh my god. Magically delicious.

[00:03:15]>> You know, the way how sweet y'all is.

[00:03:16]team come and put up how players would come in that put up their best work against y'all. That was definitely Magic Delicious, >> [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:03:23]>> That was it. What you think about about their run, bro?

[00:03:28]>> You know, again, man, for a team that doesn't get a whole lot of praise outside of New York, right?

[00:03:37]>> Um I think I think this is just a good nucleus of players who actually rock with each other on and off the court.

[00:03:43]>> A team, >> a team team. And it and it shows and that's that's what we saw last year with OKC, right? A team team.

[00:03:48]>> Yeah.

[00:03:48]>> And and also they said that this couldn't work, right? Because when you got a small guard and and how big the league is going now, >> Becky Hammond, >> Becky >> Becky said that, you know, >> the most famous for saying it.

[00:03:59]>> And a lot of other people uh basketball enthusiasts don't believe that you can win with a small guard.

[00:04:06]>> I mean, I'm not mad at that, bro, because it's just really never been done except for Zeke and Steph.

[00:04:12]>> Really? Well, I mean, it it can it can happen, but look at the teams they had surrounding them. Notable players, enforcers, and bullies. You know what I'm saying? Uh, all-time great defenders, all-time great shooters and scorers. You can look at New York team and they didn't have none of that. They just had a bunch of pieces that fit well together, you know, on this much overrated playoff run. This is another overrated playoff run that we have are looking at way out of proportion. And so a lot of people said obviously they couldn't do it >> right. They didn't >> they didn't have you know this huge mega star coming in you know i.e. >> when when Marberry comes back home when there Carmelo >> Amari >> the list goes on and on. Start comes back big >> big big Pat. A lot of big checks have been cut in New York for players [laughter] right. Um, I don't know. I, you know, I like it. It's cool.

[00:05:14]Congratulations. Y'all earned it. I didn't think that they could outplay the height of the Spurs, >> right?

[00:05:22]>> I didn't think that they just I didn't even think they had enough talent to beat the Spurs. And we all know that the East is a weak conference traditionally.

[00:05:30]>> I'm not going to agree with that, bro.

[00:05:32]>> Traditionally, >> because in in the history of modern basketball, uh, they only separated. The East and the West are only separated by like six championships, bro. And if you take away you take away that uh o that early basketball, there's a little bit closer.

[00:05:47]>> I'm going to need the stats on that.

[00:05:48]>> Yeah, we we could do that. Uh this run is hella overrated, dog. Let's let's let's not get everybody [ __ ] up. You beat the Atlanta Hawks, who you went down 2-1 to a very young team who nobody expected nothing from but a good sucker punch. You survived a sucker punch in the fight, you know, [ __ ] sneak you in the fight. You know, you survive that, you know, he know he cooked. The Hawks knew they was cooked, bro. Then the Sixers. Nobody's scared of Paul George no more. Nobody's scared of Joel Embiid. Edgecom was a rookie. Nick Nurse they coached. That's the biggest flaw, you know. And you can't say nothing bad about Tyrese Maxi. The boy balls. He balls out. The Cavs, they have the Dan Gilbert curse. And that curse has been on since LeBron left. And Dan Gilbert wrote that Dear John letter like he was writing to his ex, "Hey big head, I hate you." You know what I'm saying? So you knew they weren't going. They bought in James Harden. I love the beard, bro.

[00:06:33]>> The beard has been the system. has not been the systems, has been the MVP in the NBA and the strip club and he got caught with a strap I think recently.

[00:06:40]You know what I'm saying?

[00:06:40]>> Yeah. Yeah. Shot everywhere.

[00:06:41]>> Yeah. He's he's a he's a lot. You know what I'm saying? But they beat they beat the Cavs the soft ass Cavs. You know what I'm saying? They have a the only legit win they have is against the Spurs and they handled their building. That's like they treat the Spurs like this, bro. When you tell your child, "Hey, I'm you getting whooping later on. I'm whoop you later on." But now you don't whoop them. You don't whoop them right away, right? Like they waiting. They waiting.

[00:07:02]They waiting. The Knicks waited around every game till like the fourth quarter, you know what I'm saying? And then put belt to the Spurs ass, bro. It It It was crazy. It was crazy, dog. Snap that [ __ ] But it was ridiculous. And it it says how long how far away the Spurs are. And you got to put respect on Mike Brown name now.

[00:07:20]>> Facts. No more assistant uh participation.

[00:07:24]>> He did it.

[00:07:25]>> Rings.

[00:07:26]>> Yeah.

[00:07:26]>> Shout out to brother Brown >> while while running daddy daycare, letting Rick take care of [ __ ] uh Jaylen. Good job, man. He was running he was running two teams.

[00:07:33]>> Yeah, man. Great job.

[00:07:34]>> And the Bronson.

[00:07:35]>> Great great job, Rick, man. Great job for being a father, being a staple, being present, being him, right? Um I, you know, it's a lot of sub stories there, but for that reason alone, I like it. But I want to take the conversation with you.

[00:07:49]>> I'm not done with these yet, bro.

[00:07:51]>> This how overrated the Knicks championship is to me. That championship is only important in New York. None of the surrounding areas, not even Brooklyn. Brooklyn got their own team that want to win. You know what [laughter] I'm saying? Let's not forget that. And they had to come from New Jersey. Tell me this. They to me, they the worst champion in the last 20 years, bro.

[00:08:11]>> I'm going to read it off to you. The 07 Spurs, are they better than them?

[00:08:16]>> Okay, cool. Uh, the big three in the Celtics?

[00:08:19]>> No.

[00:08:20]>> Kobe's back toback Lakers?

[00:08:22]>> No.

[00:08:22]>> Dirk's Mavs?

[00:08:24]>> No.

[00:08:24]>> LeBron's Heat?

[00:08:25]>> Absolutely not.

[00:08:26]>> The 2014 Spurs? I say no.

[00:08:29]>> Uh Steph Curry's first championship over LeBron, that 2015 Golden State Warriors.

[00:08:35]>> Absolutely not.

[00:08:35]>> LeBron's return in Cleveland uh championship team.

[00:08:39]>> No.

[00:08:40]>> The backto back KD Clay Draymond Steph >> 73 and change.

[00:08:45]>> Are they better than them?

[00:08:46]>> No.

[00:08:47]>> Okay, here's here's an interesting one.

[00:08:49]The Toronto Raptors for 2019 with Kawawaii.

[00:08:53]>> Yes. Cuz I'm not a fan of Kawhai and I hated that team. That was a fluke championship.

[00:08:57]>> I say no. And Anog was on that team as well, but he was just injured. Okay. The bubble Lakers with teams were quitting and I can't do it. I miss my family. I'm depressed. Are they better than that team?

[00:09:07]>> No.

[00:09:08]>> Giannis is Bucks that won.

[00:09:10]>> Oh, no.

[00:09:14]>> Okay. Steph's first MVP in the finals.

[00:09:16]Golden State Warriors.

[00:09:18]>> Golden Golden State uh is solidified.

[00:09:20]They're probably one of the greatest teams ever assembled in history.

[00:09:23]>> Yes. Joic's Nuggets.

[00:09:27]Not the way they were planning, you know.

[00:09:29]>> No, bro. Okay. Tatum and Browns first ring together when the NBA said they wouldn't work. That uh 2024 Boston Celtics.

[00:09:39]>> I could see a seven game series. I'm going to go with New York on that one.

[00:09:45]>> Last year's OKC team.

[00:09:47]>> No.

[00:09:48]>> All right. Now, stop again. It's Brunson. I think Bronson may be the least of the MVPs in the last 20 years.

[00:09:55]Dwayne Wade from the Heat 20 20 uh 20 2006 when he had Shaq. Is is Bronson better than Dwade?

[00:10:01]>> No.

[00:10:02]>> Uh oh, he a good one. Tony Parker in 2007.

[00:10:08]>> From a personal standpoint, I would pick Jaylen Brunson.

[00:10:11]>> Okay. Paul Pierce >> 2008.

[00:10:13]>> No.

[00:10:13]>> Kobe in 2009 2010?

[00:10:15]>> No.

[00:10:16]>> Dirk 2011?

[00:10:17]>> No.

[00:10:17]>> LeBron with the heat them two years?

[00:10:18]>> No.

[00:10:19]>> Kawan 2014 with the Spurs. Not a fan of Kawaii. Yes.

[00:10:22]>> This is where [laughter] No. The answer is no, bro. This is The answer is overwhelmingly no, dog. Okay.

[00:10:28]This is where it gets interesting because this is the most gimme MVP ever.

[00:10:32]Andre Iguoda. I love Iggy. Andre Iguodawa. Is Bronson better than him?

[00:10:38]No. You know why I agree with that?

[00:10:40]Because I saw the Knicks take Brunson out the game late in the game for defensive measures. Bro, no thank you.

[00:10:45]You can't you can't you don't get on that rush more on that list when they have to do that to you. Uh, LeBron's return to Cleveland 2016. Is he better than LeBron?

[00:10:54]>> Come on, man.

[00:10:54]>> Okay, cool. KD. KD.

[00:10:57]>> Come on, man.

[00:10:58]>> Kawawaii again.

[00:10:59]>> Did you go?

[00:11:00]>> Yes.

[00:11:01]>> Okay. LeBron in 2020.

[00:11:02]>> Anything with LeBron, Curry.

[00:11:04]>> I ain't going to ask you no more questions, bro. Okay. Okay. Spin and finish. What you say?

[00:11:08]>> Any anything with LeBron on it, Curry on it, uh KD on it, the answer is always going to be no.

[00:11:13]>> The only names left were Giannis, Steph, Joker, Jaylen Brown, Shay Gildris. Not a fan of Jaylen. I mean, uh, yeah. Well, Jaylen Brown, so I'm I'm giving Big Body Brunts in that one.

[00:11:24]>> You got him two for like the last Yeah.

[00:11:26]>> 21 years. Yeah, you're wrong. Let's go.

[00:11:29][laughter] >> Um, so you know what? All right. Well, then let's let's dive a little bit deeper into the Jaylen Brunson bag.

[00:11:36]>> Baller. Big Bronson's a baller though.

[00:11:38]>> He is Illinois.

[00:11:42]>> Mr. Illinois, >> Mr. Illinois. Um, he is Chicago adjacent.

[00:11:48]>> Adjacent.

[00:11:49]>> And I saw I saw a a question floating around the internet.

[00:11:54]>> Okay.

[00:11:54]>> Asking is Jaylen Brunson now the best player to ever come out of Illinois, >> bro.

[00:12:02]>> And specifically, if you're comparing Jaylen and D Rose, >> there only one name you can compare him to. No, no disrespect to Uncle Zeke. No disrespect to Uncle Zeke at all. To me, he's Chicago's goat and always will be until somebody comes along and just unseats him uh with force. Okay. What you say? [sighs and gasps] >> Uh well, again, Jaylen's not from Chicago. Let's start there.

[00:12:29]>> Well, the question was Illinois, right?

[00:12:31]>> Is Yeah, he's okay. Illinois. And by you not being from Chicago compared compared to a hometown kid, >> no, he's not he's not better. He's not the best. Now, people are going to immediately say, "Oh, well, he got a championship.

[00:12:48]>> He got a ship >> and he has an MVP in the championship and he has two championships in college and he has a state title in Illinois and he was Mr. Basketball in Illinois." All right. So was Derrick Rose, Mr. Basketball in Illinois. And Dererick Rose got two state titles in Illinois.

[00:13:08]And Dererick Rose was one and done. And Derrick Rose was the fin was the youngest MVP ever. You know, I mean, what what do you do? What do how do you how do you break this up? What are the metrics, bro? That's why I always go to the eye test.

[00:13:20]>> So, if we're if we're talking metrics, right, we can go we can go draft, right?

[00:13:25]We can go career uh PPG. We can go assist per game. Uh we can we would have to break down Rose to a peak season which for me is 2011 where he averaged 25 seven assists and four rebounds.

[00:13:41]>> That's MVP year.

[00:13:42]>> Uh >> might be it don't matter.

[00:13:45]>> Could be. Obviously you already said the youngest MVP. Zero NBA finals, zero NBA championships.

[00:13:51]>> Let's be very clear. He's going up against LeBron though.

[00:13:53]>> Three All-Star selections. Only two for Jaylen Brunson.

[00:13:58]>> Okay. Career steal, y'all. He uh Rose is also number one point guard prospect in 2007. Top five overall uh in college. Uh shoot >> I may have to I may have to break it down cuz I'm petty.

[00:14:14]>> Ronson two-time Illinois Gatorade player of the year.

[00:14:16]>> That's cool. All that >> was all America.

[00:14:20]If if there's going to be a reason why I'm picking D Rose out of all of the NBA basketball metrics, then it has to be who they married. Jaylen [laughter] has married a white girl, super regular.

[00:14:38]>> She pretty basic, but is it but but love is >> D. Rose is with a white girl.

[00:14:44]Not super regular.

[00:14:45]>> Is is she recycled though?

[00:14:47]>> Don't know. I didn't get into her bag.

[00:14:49]Have no idea. And I'm not gonna talk about these guys wives. I'm not. I'm just saying >> it's value. It's market value. Sexual market value. Thank you, Kevin Samuels.

[00:14:56]>> Sexual market value.

[00:14:58]>> We need Kevin Samson right here or his ghost or anything sitting right here.

[00:15:01]>> D Rose has his jersey retired. Will they retire Brunson's jersey?

[00:15:04]>> Absolutely. He's the greatest Nick ever, bro.

[00:15:07]>> What?

[00:15:08]>> All the other people you name.

[00:15:09]>> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Greatest Nick ever. He just went from championship finals MVP >> New York Nick dope >> to New York greatest New York Nick ever over Carmelo over Spreewell over Marberry over Larry Johnson >> over Maya over Willis Reed Walle Frasier got a stake in there over Patan over Charles Oakley over John Starks over everybody you want to think about Dave de Bush over everybody you would think about Jaylen Brunson did what most of them could not [ __ ] do dog lead a team to the promised man to call that [ __ ] Moses Brunson.

[00:15:45]Call him. He had Hey, the Nicks been and where they ain't 53 years. They've been in the desert 53 years without a real leader. They wait till Moses Brunson came along to get them to the promised land to get water to get the mana, the bread from heaven. You talking to a preacher kid here now. Come on now. They had they had they needed Moses. He came and that Moses staff is now Brunson's dreads. Okay? Once he let that hair grow out, you know what it tends to do over time. Hey, he was him. There's no reason he can't be number one. See, that argument was so [ __ ] Your [ __ ] went out, bro. Just everlasting, bro. Just be real.

[00:16:19]>> Yeah, that blew me, too.

[00:16:21]>> Yeah, he's he's the best dog. Uh, real talk though. Taking the last shot between D Rose and Jaylen. Uh, Brunson, who taking the last shot? D Rose all day. Uh, Mr. Clutch is getting the last shot for me. And I love D Rose. I'm picking D Rose. running your team.

[00:16:40]Running your team like a point guard, who are you having run your team, Derek or Jaylen? D Rose.

[00:16:49]Who came into the league more NBA ready skill-wise? Jaylen or Derek?

[00:16:55]>> D Rose. Okay, I see where this is going.

[00:16:58]All right. I think I think Derrick Rose is the most expensive luxurious foreign muscle car you can buy. Okay. Raw power, rawicism, high IQ, bro. Uh could twist and turn in the air, stop on a dime without lose momentum. I think Jaylen is more of a textbook point guard. It is the boy point guard, you know. I think Jaylen has better basement work.

[00:17:28]uh than Derek. I think Jaylen has a better mid-range than Derek. He came in with it. I do think Jaylen's footwork is better than Derrick's. Dererick didn't But let's get it right. Let's let's let's keep it real. Dererick didn't need all that.

[00:17:41]What God gave him was enough, you know.

[00:17:44]But point guard for point guard, I'm taking Derek Rose still.

[00:17:48]>> You damn right. Still, welcome [laughter] home, my boy.

[00:17:51]>> But Jay's no slouch though, bro. New York should be ashamed though. It should be a shame that it took somebody that's been there for two or three years in the year 2026 and y'all been around with y'all nasty ass name the nicker boxers.

[00:18:01]You know what I'm saying? You change that cic two G's. Guess what? You the [ __ ] boxers. It's it's it took this long for somebody to come through and and have it a chapter in y'all New York n history of basketball called Destiny Fulfilled, bro. Like a Destiny Child album. Destiny fulfilled, bro. And it's Jaylen Brunson, bro. Can we can we talk about them winning in San Antonio and a Spurs fan who was like a bull partying every crowd in the stadium?

[00:18:34]>> Was that was they in New York when this dude was doing this though?

[00:18:36]>> No. No. This this was if I'm not mistaken this was in San Antonio.

[00:18:41]Could have been because I feel like if they was in New York >> too many Nick fans around, bro.

[00:18:45]>> Yeah. Yeah. But that's true. But if it was in New York, I feel like New York is crazy enough to jump him all at once.

[00:18:51]San Antonio's a little bit more chill of a spot. He cleared everybody. It looked like a a video game. Zombie apocalypse.

[00:18:59][laughter] >> It was It was crazy.

[00:19:01]>> Moving them, moving the crowd, >> you know, people trying to sneak him, swing on them, trip them.

[00:19:06]>> Yeah, it was crazy. And then then he was so cold that he got a police escort >> out >> and then they put a barricade up to keep him away from Security for Mike Tyson, huh? Damn.

[00:19:17]>> He don't need security for him. It's for y'all. You know what though? You ever been in the spot where you got a lot of, you know, fake tough guys, a lot of people that play games to play street, then the real one walk in, how the energy change, uh, that's what happened right there. They saw they play them other people. They could play with those other people. You know what I'm saying?

[00:19:33]But when they saw Buddy with no muscle, no definition, it's a big body, and the look in his face, I don't know if it was liquor or if he was on a spectrum, bro.

[00:19:41]>> That man said, "I can handle myself."

[00:19:43]>> He did. He told the police that, "Hey man, I don't need y'all. I'M [laughter] HERE. Y'ALL CAN GO ON LUNCH RIGHT NOW. I got all these people. A was chasing cats around. Whoever let that would do something. He was on your ass. That's what was it? The Robin jersey he had on.

[00:19:56]>> Yep.

[00:19:56]>> Hey, that's that says it all. He don't got wimpy on. He ain't going to take his ball and go home as you would say. He not say I can do better next game. Uh he he not D Fox to turn the ball over to clutch. Dear Hey man. Hey man. I'm a fan of you bro. Yeah.

[00:20:09]>> I'm a fan of you bro. That was wild.

[00:20:11]What happened? That was wild. Dear, you might have just wrote your ticket um out of San Antonio. Let me be clear. It's either going to be you or your coach.

[00:20:19]And typically, they don't fire players, they fire coaches. So, you might have just got your coach fired. And also, speaking of De'Aran, what I don't like as a as a coach, >> he made the wrong play call, right? He's trying to get De'Arren going. Dear just ain't had it all series, really all playoffs, right?

[00:20:39]>> Let Harper get off.

[00:20:41]>> Let him get off. He a little slap with the ball too though. Uh Harper, >> but he was having a better a better series.

[00:20:46]>> He definitely was. No question about it.

[00:20:47]>> Better series. He had 21 in the third or by the third.

[00:20:51]>> By the third. Thank you.

[00:20:51]>> Right. Um sometimes as a coach, you have to make a decision. You got to let this basketball business go and less who?

[00:20:59]Whoever is having the better game. I understand he's a max player. I get that. But we're trying to win this. This is win or go home.

[00:21:08]>> True. Understood, bro. But you know, >> you got to stand behind your horses. You got your ride or die, your ride or die lady. Things at home Rocky. You know what I'm saying? You got the side piece on the side. She cooking. She cleaning.

[00:21:19]It's a whole vibe. Y'all don't arg.

[00:21:21]Y'all don't fuss when you see it, bro.

[00:21:23]But you know number one been number one for so long. It's hard to let that go, dog. All year been cool. He been cool, man. And just now when shit's hitting the fan, you know, it's starting to crumble. Do you tell number one, hey man, how many men have the balls to tell number one, hey, you know what, we had a good time. We It was a whole It was a whole episode, a whole wrote, we wrote our story, >> but now I'm reading a new book.

[00:21:49]>> If you're a real one, okay, you take the L personally and get a W for the team just like the play in the game in game four when you should have dribbled it out when you try to GET A LAYUP.

[00:22:02]>> UNFORGIVABLE. HE REPLACED TERRELL SMITH, BRO.

[00:22:05]>> Come on, man. He plays miss rebound and and run back out run the clock out with a good [laughter] time.

[00:22:09]>> Come on, man.

[00:22:10]>> De'Aran no, >> you know. So, it's it's a it's a lot of different issues why they lost this series the way that they did. And De'Aran not showing up sometimes you got to take the back seat, my boy. You got to be man up. Tell coach, I let me do something else. Coach, >> you do that, you never play in this league again. That follows you. that.

[00:22:33]Imagine, imagine you back at ALT, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You know, you hit a funk in the season. You hit a funk, bro. And you tell coach a coach, you arrogant ass [ __ ] You're not gonna do this. But you tell coach a coach, let me just go ahead and uh put me in and give him a breather or just let me distribute a little bit more and don't run no plays for me. You know, the coach going to say to you, and he should say to you, and he will forever tag your ass as this [ __ ] quitter. He ain't got what it takes. I don't need him in this program. You going you going you going to bleed out. uh it's gonna bleed off into these other players. No, we don't need that, bro. I think Mitch made the right call. Uh not giving up on Fox, but he could have played Dylan Moore. And I hate, you know what? I'm so glad two games ago they lost that the Spurs lost because Ron Harper was in the stands going crazy sitting uh a seat away from Shan. We [ __ ] with Shan too though. Uh one another another one of the great faces on ESPN. Now you keep him around more and more often. You know what I'm saying? Chicago does this. They does this little thirsty grab his little bar. It's okay though. Uh yeah, bro.

[00:23:30]Because look here, Harper on my [ __ ] list because of this. He was doing an interview with his sons, right? And they asked him what he want for his sons. He said, "I let my son make their own choice. You know, I'm not LeBron James.

[00:23:40]A unwarranted child LeBron James." Now, trust me, Harper nobody's going to mistake you for for LeBron James. Nobody. So why would you even say that? Your son at home. Look at just be a shoulder for your son in crown. Be a father. Okay. To both your sons, they both gonna be really good in the NBA, dog. So, look here. You didn't get to see him win or celebrate like you got to celebrate the championship. But guess what? They not winning either next. They not winning next year again either. Spurs ain't get back next year, bro. It's a wrap.

[00:24:12]>> Hey, look, man. It was It was a good good series, man. and you know >> on his way to a max contract getting this >> and and I'm oh did we also know that Jaylen decided to he immediately after the game got on the phone with his agent or or team management or whoever and uh said hey look I'm coming back but I'll take less money to keep us together that's >> that's soft or boss >> that's boss he wants to win again I don't see the Knicks coming back back to back I mean it's hard we've had eight different champions in the last uh eight years right so there have been backto back uh champions. So to say that I think it's selfless. I wouldn't do it.

[00:24:52]I'm getting my bread. I've earned it.

[00:24:53]You know what I mean? This is just me. I want all mine. Okay. But Jaylen, I see what you did there. Right. And if you want to try and keep the group together, that's one way to do it. You forfeit some bread to show that you really stand on business and you really believe in your team. At the end of the day, I want all mine cuz >> you just hitting your prime, dog.

[00:25:08]>> Yeah. Exactly.

[00:25:09]>> They're nervous. So soft. Brady only took less when he got old.

[00:25:12]>> Do you see Mike ever taking less? LeBron taking less.

[00:25:16]>> That's on That's on the Knicks to figure out.

[00:25:17]>> Oh, T. So why why Dana Bronson, do not do the front office job. Let them do their [ __ ] job. They get paid for this. Don't make it easy for him. That's the most sucker ass New York [ __ ] bro.

[00:25:27]I hate New York, dog.

[00:25:28]>> Well, again, I hate Spider-Man.

[00:25:30]>> That's That's suburban [ __ ] That's not Chicago [ __ ] He's He's Chicago adjacent, which is why it will forever be D Rose over Brunson. For me, >> the Globe Trot is a better team, bro.

[00:25:40]The accent The accent is whack, bro. The Yankees just the Giants, the Mets. Y'all traffic suck, bro. Oh, y'all sub system is weak and dirty, bro. It's not like Chicago. Y street meat is trash. Talking to a chick in New York, bro. It's like talking to another [ __ ] It's like, what we doing here? Why you me? Why you [ __ ] Skyler? You know what I'm saying? Cardi B whack. Uh, and Wuang had too many members to only have was have not enough good albums, bro. That's how whack New York is. I can go all the rest if you want me to.

[00:26:09]>> No, no, we don't have to. But we can we can stay in that pocket. And >> Tam's trash too.

[00:26:14]>> Last week we decided and we promised a a versus >> did we now >> a mock versus once again >> we did >> from some heavyweights one by way of New York Brooklyn standup. Uh Jay-Z >> versus >> versus the six god drizz lightkinn Drake. [laughter] Okay.

[00:26:39]You are Drake today.

[00:26:41]>> Dark skin Drake.

[00:26:42]>> I am Hoveve.

[00:26:43]>> No, this is tougher than I thought.

[00:26:45]>> Yeah, >> tougher than I thought. And I don't care. I'm here for it.

[00:26:47]>> Where are we having the mock versus at?

[00:26:51]It's always important where we're at cuz it's going to >> not New York, not Toronto.

[00:26:55]>> Okay. So, we can do we can do a we can do a Vegas, right? Cuz everybody's going to come out.

[00:27:00]>> Everybody's going to Yeah, >> everybody's going to come out.

[00:27:02]>> That's a perfect spot, bro.

[00:27:03]>> All right. We in Vegas in Vegas.

[00:27:05]>> We are in Vegas. At the sphere.

[00:27:07]>> At the sphere, bro. [laughter] And uh >> you got to put on a show at the sphere.

[00:27:11]You got to put on a show. Okay.

[00:27:12]>> Now, >> I think you're going to cheat.

[00:27:14]>> Not at all. You're going to cheat, bro.

[00:27:16]Not at all.

[00:27:16]>> Lights have been they've have been doing underheaded things all year this year.

[00:27:20]>> Since you are the young boy, man, I've been I I came down off my throne to address y'all at the roots picnic. I'mma go ahead and let you come out first out the gate. What are you coming out with to kick it off?

[00:27:32]>> I'm going to live in the setup cuz they already went crazy with me walking out here cuz I'm Drizzy. I'm I'm Dizzy Drake, bro. I'm Aubrey. I'm the six god.

[00:27:40]I'm going get started with the motto.

[00:27:43]>> I'm going get started [clears throat] with the motto, bro. Just just get crowd hype. Get NG on my side.

[00:27:48]>> I like that. You know what? I'll go swag it like us just so I can bring out TI and Weezy.

[00:27:58]>> So, there are no rules here, huh?

[00:27:59]>> There are no rules.

[00:28:00]>> You didn't say that.

[00:28:00]>> Hey, hey, this is a versus. This is a battle. Do what you got to do, player.

[00:28:05]>> Swagger like us. [laughter] Huh? Okay.

[00:28:07]Okay. Cool. I'm going to remind y'all who I was so I can tell you who I am later on. I'm going to start with I'm going to go second. I'm going to slap you with the best I ever had.

[00:28:19]>> Sure. You my everything. Yeah. You my everything. Yep. I ain't got to sing it.

[00:28:22]You know what it is.

[00:28:23]>> That's nice.

[00:28:24]>> You want to do crowd participation?

[00:28:25]>> They can do whatever they want to do.

[00:28:27]Move anyway.

[00:28:27]>> I'mma go is H to the iso to the Okay. I'm not mad I'm not mad at that beat. The rapper was ass though. I'm I'm gonna go there. Number three, [laughter] I'mma bring Big Pluto out with me. We got an album together, though. We have We quote says from this guy all the time of How to Treat Women. I'm going with Drake and Future Jump Man.

[00:28:50]>> That's cool. That's actually cute.

[00:28:52][laughter] >> It's actually cute, right? For you, for the ladies and how petty Future is. I get it.

[00:28:58]>> Guess what?

[00:28:59]>> What?

[00:28:59]>> I've already dug up DMX.

[00:29:02]>> Okay.

[00:29:03]>> Money cash ho. Money cash money cashes.

[00:29:06]Money cash that be.

[00:29:11]Yeah.

[00:29:12]>> I'mma go to a song next cuz you think I'm soft now cuz you bought DMX out and X talk bad about Drake. I remember this.

[00:29:19]You called him soft. Say what hip hop on some Most Deep [ __ ] before Most Deep said that [ __ ] So I'm trying to turn up real quick and let you know ain't no ho.

[00:29:26]I'm going zero to 100, [ __ ] Nice.

[00:29:30]Nice. Zero to 100 is not bad.

[00:29:33]I would probably go dirt off my shoulder.

[00:29:39]>> Yeah, >> it's hard to [ __ ] with a Timlin beat.

[00:29:41]>> Exactly.

[00:29:42]>> Hard to [ __ ] with Tim, but that 100 is nasty, [ __ ] It's nasty. All right, man. Cool. I respect Tim. I respect Virginia and everything they do. Jay-Z has to go other places for helping him get wins. He's done it his whole career.

[00:29:53]Take other people [ __ ] All right, so next, you know. Yeah, I'mma go [clears throat] 10 bands, 50 bands, 100 bands. [ __ ] it, man. Let's just not even discuss it, man. OMG. Yeah, I'm going 10 bands on it ass. That's why I'm going with it.

[00:30:07]>> That's fine for you.

[00:30:09]>> It's gonna be fine for you, too, bro.

[00:30:10]So, you know, >> and so we're midway through now. It's time for me to let everybody know who I am. Public service announcement.

[00:30:20]>> All right, that's all.

[00:30:26]>> Allow me to reintroduce myself. My name is Come on, man.

[00:30:30]>> H to the OV. Talk to me.

[00:30:32]>> Whatever he say after that.

[00:30:33]>> Yeah.

[00:30:33]>> That's one song I never really played, bro. I hated it.

[00:30:35]>> You see what it made you do?

[00:30:36]>> Yeah. Made me sing the first time.

[00:30:37]Everybody sing in [laughter] a party.

[00:30:38]It's some Shawn Mac [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? Okay. All right. You said I went there real quick. All right. You know what? Since you want to go crazy, you want to go in. I'm going to go in.

[00:30:46]I'm playing Going In featuring Jeezy, Wayne, and Drake.

[00:30:52]First off, you know what it is. If you heard Drake, I something on business, so button up your shirt straight. Making hoes wobble like a bridge in an earthquake. Come on, man. It's not enough.

[00:31:01]>> It's definitely not enough. It's definitely SMACKING >> CUZ NOW I'M COMING WITH TAKEOVER.

[00:31:09]>> You mean the son that got him killed by Nas? So you writing the man? Thank you for writing Unity for me cuz next I'm going [laughter] I'm going mellow it back out real quick.

[00:31:18]I'mma mellow it back out and bring a a R&B singer into it. I'm going go with Drake and Trey Song. Successful.

[00:31:27]>> Nice. I'mma do it for all my street guys. Everybody that's been with me since 96.

[00:31:33]Let's go. Can't knock the hustle. Bring Mary Jay out here.

[00:31:37]>> I ain't mad at that. I ain't mad at that. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. It's a little old. You know, some dated Jay-Z is saying >> Okay, that was number seven for you. All right, to hit you over your head consecutively, I'm going one of the best D songs of this generation with back to back >> had Obama vibing to it. had Jordan on golf on on the golf course vibing to it.

[00:32:00]It's okay. We got this. Aubrey has this.

[00:32:04]>> Oh. All right. Well, uh I think I want to I want to I want the crowd to chant.

[00:32:10]Let's go with uh Hard Knock Life.

[00:32:13]>> It's a hard knock.

[00:32:16]It's a hard knock.

[00:32:22]>> Yeah, that's when he got his crossover peel. I'm not mad at that at all. You know what I'm saying? He was pretty local before that. Oh, that's number eight for you.

[00:32:30]>> All right. So, number nine, I'm going with a crew cut. I like them. Long hair, thick red bone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Open up them legs and filet mining that I'm going with every girl in the world, bro.

[00:32:42]>> [ __ ] easy. Big pimping.

[00:32:48][singing] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm cool.

[00:32:52]Gloria, we miss you, girl. That's what I [laughter] facts. Hey, so to wrap this up, bro, I'mma show you how old you are. Now, I'm I'mma slide out the door. You know what I'm saying? With some exotic rings on my fingers, some champagne, some over your champagne. Probably had a on my shoulder while I'm walking out. I'm with a new slap. J, shut the [ __ ] up. And I'm talking about your ass in that song.

[00:33:14]Made you respond to me at the roots freestyle picnic, [ __ ] Whatever semi album wasn't [ __ ] you thought it was.

[00:33:22]This is the close out.

[00:33:23]>> This is song number 10.

[00:33:24]>> Grand opening. Grand closing.

[00:33:26]>> Damn your man. Hold crack the can and open again.

[00:33:28]>> Yeah, man. H I feel like the crowd's going to go crazy and with my Chicago bias.

[00:33:36]I came off the throne. I want y'all to watch the throne. Give me [ __ ] in Paris.

[00:33:41]>> I'm not mad at that.

[00:33:42]>> Yeah, there's your only option, bro.

[00:33:43]Yeah, >> your only option. What I didn't give you was Marvin's room in My Feelings, God's Plan, Tuskan Leather, Trophies, uh, Him and Future Again, Life is Good. I I didn't give you Aston Martin music. I didn't give you Dice Pineapples. I didn't give you a lot of [ __ ] that Drake got, bro.

[00:33:59]>> I didn't give you Guess Who's Biz Zach.

[00:34:01]>> Okay.

[00:34:02]>> I didn't give you Dear Summer. I didn't give you >> Otis with with Otis, bro.

[00:34:08]>> Uh, I didn't give you 99 problems. I didn't give you Dead Presidents, too.

[00:34:13]That's >> I didn't even give you What more can I say? THIS WAS EASY WORK. WE CAN RUN IT BACK.

[00:34:17]>> We can do that [ __ ] again next week, bro. I got you. Don't trip, bro.

[00:34:20]>> Say less. Hey, y'all. Let us know if we got it right. Yeah.

[00:34:22]>> And don't be no old Glazers. Don't be prisoners of the moment either. Fair critiques, my boy. And since we we are talking about Jay and Drake. We talking about an artist that's been around. We talking We talking about an artist been around since we've been in high school plus a recent great. Let's just take to somebody that's been around basketball for three generations. He's seen all these rappers. We're talking about the one and only the GOAT, the King. His rarness, >> not his earness, his raress.

[00:34:52]>> LeBron Ramon James Senior. Okay. Being named the most influential athlete of the century.

[00:35:01]>> True.

[00:35:02]>> And I don't know why there was any push back on that. There's been no athlete in the spotlight this this century longer than him. Nobody to me that hasn't influenced the NBA more importantly. I ain't talking about play style. The way players move in the NBA more than LeBron James. It's just one more accolade under his belt. One more reason why he is the goat and your goat is not the goat. Or if your goat is a goat, uh LeBron's the mountain goat. He's a big mountain goat.

[00:35:27]You know what I'm saying? LeBron, he's just him. What we going to realize?

[00:35:29]LeBron is just that dude, bro. It it's a shame that people can't get the hate out their eyes, bro. The hate out their heart for this guy that you cannot find.

[00:35:38]You have to be in the know and the know to find something wrong with this guy.

[00:35:41]But most of us aren't in the know. Most of y'all y'all boom boom boom boom boom ain't in the know, bro. The man got his his kid >> into the pros. [snorts] >> The man married his high school sweetheart.

[00:35:52]>> The man's been with Nike. He's been with Sprite. He He's been in movies. He's been a train wreck and and House Party.

[00:35:58]Was it House Party? Uh, no. No.

[00:36:00]>> [ __ ] Was was a house party?

[00:36:02]>> House party. House party, bro. He had space gem that was actually really [ __ ] good and put other players on.

[00:36:06]The man is the king of putting his boys on, bro. That just lets you know and all things I'm naming is why he is the most influential athlete of this century.

[00:36:15]>> And let's be clear, this was Time magazine.

[00:36:17]>> Time magazine >> put LeBron James on the cover as athlete of the century. You know how many other athletes they had to pass up for the century?

[00:36:26]>> Not enough. Not enough. Make up some athletes. He in front of them too. He in front of them too.

[00:36:32]>> I mean, again, we're not just talking influence. We're not just talking basketball. LeBron does it all. Uh, >> memes, gifs, everything.

[00:36:40]>> Ali comes to mind. Jordan comes to mind.

[00:36:42]Tiger comes to mind. Serena, every black influential athlete he surpasses because he's done it the right way. Whether y'all like him or not, it is what it is. He has handlers to make sure he makes the right moves.

[00:36:59]>> These are This is strategic.

[00:37:01]>> It bro, it [clears throat] is.

[00:37:03]>> You can't You don't just do this by happen stance. YOU DON'T JUST HAPPEN TO WAKE UP AND be great. You have to be taught, schooled, watched, surveyed, and loved on cuz the haters going to be there.

[00:37:14]>> He said loved on.

[00:37:15]>> Yeah, loved on.

[00:37:15]>> Freaky little boy.

[00:37:16]>> Yeah, man. You know, and all that being said, everybody know I super [ __ ] with LeBron, but if you are Jenny Bus and the Lakers, LeBron's 41, 23 years, has every record imaginable. The only thing he isn't is undefeated in the finals. It's the only thing you got against him.

[00:37:33]They're starting to use his words is clickbait against him. Do you give LeBron what he's asking for? Do you give him the max?

[00:37:43][sighs] >> The fan in me wants to say yes. Right.

[00:37:47]But in in in honestly, no, LeBron, we don't need you on this one, big fella.

[00:37:50]Um, somebody else will give you a max.

[00:37:53]The Lakers shouldn't give you a max, if I'm being totally honest.

[00:37:56]>> Being transparent with >> Yeah. Um, >> does Austin Reed get the max?

[00:38:01]>> No, >> he asked for it.

[00:38:02]>> He can ask. Somebody Somebody [laughter] >> Cole's mouth don't get fed. YOU CAN ASK WHATEVER YOU WANT, RIGHT? At the end of the day, uh, we all know what LeBron comes with, but it's also a 41 will be a 42 year old LeBron >> by Christmas. Yeah.

[00:38:16]>> You know, so business-wise, that doesn't make sense.

[00:38:21]I can still keep LeBron.

[00:38:22]>> Yeah.

[00:38:23]>> And still reap the benefits of having LeBron on my team, but I can't spend max dollars on LeBron at this at this stage.

[00:38:28]>> Just like you the boss of this show, bro. You got to make a choice now. you are Genie Bus again or whatever other company bought into, you know, uh the Lakers and she still owns like half of that [ __ ] I believe. You have to pick between the King and AR.

[00:38:45]Well, well, my my thing is this. No one player is bigger than the system. I don't care who you are. I don't care who you are. Right. I'm not mad at LeBron for asking that. I mean, he's still averaging 20 and >> 217, right? Pretty much. Is that max deal worthy? I mean, there are other players averaging 21 and seven. They're not LeBron >> asking for the same. Seahawks asking for a max, too. I'm ask you, first of all, ask my goddamn question.

[00:39:09]>> Yeah, I just I just went all the way around on purpose. [laughter] >> What's the question? I I'll answer your question.

[00:39:16]>> Do you give you picking between Austin and LeBron, bro? Who you giving to Max?

[00:39:22]>> For names sake, if Dave's my only choice.

[00:39:26]>> Yes. was the only two players on the Lakers ask for a match, [ __ ] >> Damn.

[00:39:34]In theory, you gota you got to go with LeBron because I don't know I don't know what what uh Austin Reeves is going to give me under a max contract, >> right? Besides his injuries, he stays in, >> right? I know I know with LeBron on this team, this this stadium will still be packing. Jersey will still sell >> and people will still hate watch >> and and Bronny will still be there and he he has the number one selling jersey.

[00:39:55]Okay, >> come on now. Um, so business-wise, you can make it make sense. Is he deserving at this point? I mean, why not?

[00:40:04]>> I'm trading Austin, [ __ ] >> You out of here.

[00:40:06]>> Austin, out of he going to take a ride.

[00:40:07]Wherever you want to go, bro. Uh, you can get max from them. You have so much value right now. What you don't have is defense. And we need somebody on wing defending cuz they was cooking us last year on the wing. They was cooking us also inside with DeAndre Aiden. Hell, we need a lot of help. We need a lot of help. I don't know if anybody gets gonna help that. Honestly, dog, >> who you So, all right. Wait a minute.

[00:40:29]Let me let me let me ask you this, right? Because I can I can make a case to say, okay, LeBron is still productive. He still sells tickets. Uh, he's still moving ratings. He's still the global face. The Laker brand benefits from LeBron um influence beyond the box score.

[00:40:46]Right.

[00:40:46]>> Right.

[00:40:49]>> You kind of got to give it to him at the end of the day. At the end of the day, even though he's a 41 year old man, >> yes, >> but I still think >> LeBron, you know, I I feel you, bro.

[00:41:01]>> That's why we don't get paid to do this, dog. [laughter] >> Whoever get paid Whoever gets paid to make these decisions, good luck to you.

[00:41:08]>> Yeah, that's tough. [laughter] That that's that's really tough.

[00:41:12]I don't know, bro. I don't know. You know, [sighs] [ __ ] it, man. Roll out the red carpet for LeBron.

[00:41:21]>> That's it, bro.

[00:41:21]>> [ __ ] it. the only option now. And I ain't heard him I ain't heard about him buying a house. No nowhere else yet, you know. So I'm I'm under the belief, you know, when players bounce somewhere else, they sell a house. He might keep the LA house, though, cuz it's LA and, you know, he got a career after this. I would love to see LeBron doing TV, dog.

[00:41:36]I would love it so I can see all the hate for all the knowledge he's going to spit out and be correct about it. All the the casuals uh at home watching and listening and on the internet, oh, he wrong. He wrong. He ain't this. He ain't that. If y'all don't shut your ass up, this is a futuristic [ __ ] you. You know what I'm saying? Y'all don't shut up in the future. [ __ ] y'all, man. It's ridiculous, bro.

[00:41:56]>> Well, I guess that's a wrap, brother.

[00:41:58]>> It's a Riz app.

[00:41:59]>> You got something else?

[00:42:00]>> I don't. I don't. These nuts.

[00:42:04]>> Well, if you didn't like this episode, >> pick another one.

[00:42:08]>> Hello.

[00:42:12]>> Oppressed. We are exploited.

[00:42:15]>> We are down. We are denying not only civil rights, but even human rights.

[00:42:22]We got there.