War of the Worlds (2005) - Caravan of Garbage

Ajouté : 2026-05-05

[00:00:02]Welcome back everybody to another episode of Caravana Garbage where we're making our way go on >> downtown.

[00:00:08]>> Yes.

[00:00:08]>> Uh now no we're we're watching these at home actually.

[00:00:11]>> Oh >> yes.

[00:00:11]>> We're watching three War of the Worlds movies and we're at the halfway point.

[00:00:15]>> Well, not yet. No, >> there'll be a halfway point mark in this video.

[00:00:19]>> Oh yeah, there has to be the halfway point alarm. We did that for the Wolverine trilogy. We're going to have the same thing here.

[00:00:24]>> Wolverine's going to pop up and he's going to go, "Thanks for being part of the War of the Worlds trilogy." I'm here with my good friend Robert Murdoch.

[00:00:31]That's right.

[00:00:32]>> So, look forward to that in this video.

[00:00:34]So, anyway, we're of course talking about Steven Spielberg and Tom Cruz's War of the Worlds from 2005. Please leave a like. I need to know up top. Are you happy with the font? Cuz last time you were like this mash ass font.

[00:00:46]>> This font's all right.

[00:00:47]>> It's of the era.

[00:00:48]>> Yeah. Epic Bacon.

[00:00:50]>> It's a bit >> It's pre-Epic Bacon. No, you're absolutely right. It's epic bacon.

[00:00:54]>> But it's postindependence day.

[00:00:55]>> Well, yeah. Well, I think Lindsay Ellis makes the point that if Independence Day is like the definitive, destructive pre 911 New York movie. This is the post version of that where everything's grim and sad and dust.

[00:01:10]>> Yeah. Uh >> I don't know, man. It's It's not what's going What's going on?

[00:01:16]>> It's not innovative like the first one was or the the ' 50s one. And it's not unbelievably dumb like the 2025 one, which we'll get to next week. It's just okay. And like you said, you know, less than a decade prior, we got Independence Day.

[00:01:33]>> Mhm.

[00:01:33]>> And I think the thing that you mentioned it in 2001, something really important happened.

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[00:01:41]>> Correct. And it's good, too.

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[00:01:46]>> But no, 9/11 happened. Yes.

[00:01:48]>> And so, prior to that, it was no big deal for aliens to show up and just blow up the entire planet. just lay waste to cities with big laser beams and what have you. But then after that, filmmakers and and and the the general public I think were like quite quite against the idea of that. So you couldn't really do a a movie on the scale of an independence day and this was sort of made was this one of the earliest examples of like attempting to bring that back into >> I think so. But they always kind of had to have a nod towards 911 like you look at Cloverfield like the first one not whatever the other ones are doing in particular the third one. What's with the arm? What's in what's with the dimensional? It doesn't matter. But they kind of they felt like they had to say something. You know what I mean? Well, if it's destruction, it has to reflect this real world thing that happened. So, yeah, as mentioned, uh this is Steven Spielberg. And he >> This is Steven Spielberg.

[00:02:37]>> This is Hello.

[00:02:39]>> He's young Steven Spielberg.

[00:02:40]>> Oh my god.

[00:02:41]>> Here he is with his friend George Lucas.

[00:02:44]>> Well, actually, he used the previous technology that George Lucas uh used on Revenge of the Sith to do this. So, he didn't storyboard it. It's that early CGI animatic.

[00:02:54]>> Oh, >> situation. Yeah, that's fun. Steven Spielberg is a huge fan of War of the Worlds. He has one of the last copies of >> like his own movie.

[00:03:01]>> No, no, the the the original >> and not just the book, which is the original original. He's got one of the last copies of the Awesome Wilds radio script. Uh he wanted to make the film like in the '9s, but then after Independence Day was released, he was like, "Ah, maybe not." So, David Kemp was hired to write after Spielberg wanted J.J. Abrams to actually write it, but he was busy working on Lost, which was another, I guess, post 911 kind of commentary. Well, there was a plane, wasn't there?

[00:03:26]>> I guess there was a plane. Yeah.

[00:03:28]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:03:28]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:03:29]>> This is also in an era of interesting Tom Cruz stuff for a number of reasons.

[00:03:33]There's some behindthe-scenes stuff that he's doing and dealing with, which we'll get into. But also, he's not just >> because we we are purveyors of scandal and scurless rumor.

[00:03:42]>> I mean, it does tie into this movie directly and why Yeah. why Spielberg and him had a falling out.

[00:03:47]>> But it is this kind of grubby era of Tom Cruz. Now he's a guy who can do anything and saves the world and everybody loves him and he's completely asexual and and >> he's very sexual.

[00:03:58]>> He's very sexual but and he's got this huge PR kind of team behind him to make him appear normal and have normal opinions.

[00:04:05]>> Appear normal and a four quadrant man.

[00:04:07]>> Yeah, that's right. Yeah. But in this Yeah. He is an everyman. He's not a scientist like the leads of the last movie. He's baseball capper. He's a bad dad. This is the scumbag ear of Tom Cruz.

[00:04:18]>> This is what he thinks normal people are like. The the every man's a bad dad in his opinion. And he would never be a bad dad.

[00:04:25]>> No, he would be a good dad to everyone to all of his kids. He drives like a stupid idiot. He doesn't know what hummus is and he doesn't like it. You don't know what hummus is? Was that not a known thing in 2005?

[00:04:36]>> I feel I knew what hummus was.

[00:04:38]>> Yeah.

[00:04:38]>> In 2005.

[00:04:39]>> And he's got that 2005 style of leather jacket. Oh my god. I mean, he's an every man. He's got an everyman's haircut, which is simultaneously no man's haircut. You know, the haircut, it looks like he's overdue for a haircut, but it's also too short. It's springing out on the near the sideburns. It's weird. I don't like it.

[00:04:59]>> I think though, the whole building of this character. Yeah. It's around the idea that this movie isn't from the perspective of the army or the government or anything like that. It's what if this happened and a man in his family was caught in it, but also he's a bad dad and he doesn't know how to make a sandwich very clearly. That's right.

[00:05:16]Have you ever seen anything that insane in your life?

[00:05:19]>> He just throwing sandwiches at a window.

[00:05:21]>> No, before that even he's using a big wooden spoon to put >> Well, he only had a big ladle, didn't he?

[00:05:25]>> You didn't look in the fridge, man.

[00:05:27]What's wrong with you?

[00:05:27]>> For a spoon. You didn't look in a fridge for a spoon. Talking about a man who can't relate to the common man.

[00:05:33]>> It's It's butter. So, there would have been butter or margarine in the fridge.

[00:05:36]And then a draw would have had a butter knife. They wouldn't have taken all the butter knives. Mason, >> there's no time. They're being pursued very slowly by very slow Martians.

[00:05:45]There's no time. You use a wooden spoon or a ladle. Uh anyway, he's he's a Ray Frier. He's a dock worker >> and he's a man with layers.

[00:05:55]>> Mhm.

[00:05:55]>> Not emotionally. He's only got one emotion, but he's got a lot of layers of so many layers of clothing. He's like two t-shirts and a hoodie and a jacket and a vest, but not a high viz vest.

[00:06:05]Tom Cruz, wears your freaking high viz vest. You're a dock worker. You're getting out of your your crane. You don't have a high viz vest on.

[00:06:12]>> Did you think his dock working would come back into this movie?

[00:06:15]>> Like he'd have to shell game an alien like at the end of the 18 movie >> or he's never he never has to swing a big crane into a in a into one of the tripods. The shields are down. Tom Cruz, use your working man skills. I will.

[00:06:27]>> He doesn't.

[00:06:28]>> He doesn't He doesn't need to. He doesn't have any layers in his hair, though. Would you say that?

[00:06:32]>> No layers at all. No. Just half a layer.

[00:06:35]>> One weird length.

[00:06:36]>> Yes.

[00:06:37]>> Yuck.

[00:06:38]>> Look, I think everything good about this movie is in like the first 40 minutes.

[00:06:42]>> Mhm.

[00:06:43]>> The destruction and the vaporizing Ray, not Ray Frier, but the, you know, just tearing through people. The destruction is unbelievable. The way the earth is like heaving, the bridge scene is just ludicrous. The way it's tumbling down behind them. There's like excellent miniature work in this, like a lot of explosions and that which are which are comped in. The bridge scene was done that was shot a month before it was revealed at the Super Bowl. And I think that's part of the reason why this doesn't work entirely is because the whole thing was completed in 10 months as in filming to out the gate.

[00:07:17]>> Oh yeah.

[00:07:18]>> So is that a rush job in Hollywood?

[00:07:19]>> Absolutely. Especially for something this scale. So Spielberg shot all the action stuff at the start so he could hand off the visual effects >> and then he went now you guys do the acting. Yeah.

[00:07:28]>> Little Dakota Fanning, it's your time to shine.

[00:07:30]>> Yeah.

[00:07:30]>> And the other guy.

[00:07:32]>> Yeah. The other guy.

[00:07:33]>> The other guy. Dakota Fanning still receives Tom Cruz's famous white chocolate coconut cake during the holidays.

[00:07:40]>> Yeah. Well, fair enough. Yeah.

[00:07:41]>> What about the other guy? Does the other guy still get >> the guy from Dragon Ball Evolution?

[00:07:45]>> Is that him?

[00:07:45]>> Yeah, that's him.

[00:07:46]>> Is Is he Dragon Ball?

[00:07:47]>> He's Dragon Ball Goku. Dragon Ball.

[00:07:49]Yeah. Yeah. You don't know Justin Chatwood Mason?

[00:07:52]>> Well, I mean in this his hair's down.

[00:07:54]>> Yeah. And in Dragon Ball, his hair is very much up.

[00:07:58]>> So, I guess I didn't recognize him.

[00:07:59]>> Yeah, you're right. Dakota Fanning is incredible in this.

[00:08:01]>> I agree.

[00:08:02]>> She's annoying.

[00:08:02]>> She is annoying, but she's supposed to be annoying. She's like eight. Yeah.

[00:08:05]>> Like the crying. She wants her mom.

[00:08:07]Yeah. Fair enough. With Tom Cruz. You can't make a sandwich.

[00:08:11]>> She is good at pointing out his many, many flaws.

[00:08:13]>> Cuz she's right. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently Dakota Fanning's character was voted most useless thing to happen in an Apocalypse by MTV.

[00:08:20]>> What about Tom Cruz?

[00:08:21]>> Yeah. What did he What was he up to?

[00:08:23]>> Sorry. Tom Cruz's character. Tom Cruz would be very good, I think, in an alien apocalypse.

[00:08:27]>> I think he'd turn >> Oh, you think he'd betray us all? You think he'd betray humanity?

[00:08:31]>> I think he probably would. Yeah.

[00:08:33]>> Yeah, I do think that. I think he's got excellent PR, which would make it look like he didn't betray all of us.

[00:08:39]>> I think he would have, Mason. I think he would. And he already has in real life.

[00:08:42]>> And that centered tooth would open up and some sort of alien beacon would come out of it.

[00:08:47]>> Let's talk about the aliens in this.

[00:08:49]>> Okay, >> so this is the second Spielberg Tom Cruz thing. Minority Report was three years earlier. They bring over that kind of white fog kind of look from Minority Report. You know, that kind of washed out almost Saving Private Ryan kind of look. And I think because it's so rushed, a lot of the CG elements though they look good individually, you can see often the different layers. Is that also because we are watching it on not a not a cinema screen but on a but on a on a very you know high def TV for example and it's put been put on a DVD or or 4K or whatever we're seeing it in too much detail we we can pause we can go oh that sucks >> maybe but I think it's one >> and if you were here Spielberg I'd tell you we do your face it sucks >> I think it's one of those >> too much fog go back in time and tell 2005 Steven Spielberg that your movie sucks >> I'm with you I will do that but I think it's one of those movies that's shot on film, but there's been so much alteration that it looks like it was shot digitally to the detriment of the movie. Agreed. It's just something that we're all thinking about. Anyway, the alien ship design is good.

[00:09:50]>> Agreed.

[00:09:51]>> I like Spielberg's idea that they're already buried in the Earth.

[00:09:55]>> I mean, nobody ever found one. I guess I guess >> didn't dig. I mean, what are the chances? Cuz how many of them are around the world? Like, the chances are that you probably wouldn't find one.

[00:10:04]>> I'd find one.

[00:10:05]>> Yeah.

[00:10:06]>> Yeah.

[00:10:06]>> Okay. So, if there are aliens buried in the earth, >> I would have already found.

[00:10:09]>> You would have already found them. So, there's not >> I I'll never tell until the time is right.

[00:10:14]>> They're not from Mars. Uh Spielberg's mentioned that they're from as far away as ET, but from a darker part of the universe.

[00:10:21]>> Oh, >> so he's done. Well, he's about to have a fourth one, but this is the capping off of his Aliens trilogy.

[00:10:26]>> Close Encounters.

[00:10:27]>> Yes.

[00:10:28]>> At >> this movie, >> Disclosure Day.

[00:10:33]>> Agreed. I like the tripod design, though. They've gone, "Well, that's what it says in the book. Let's do big terrifying alien tripods. There's kind of a the gate is quite fun, >> don't you think?

[00:10:44]>> I'm doing it now. What do you think?

[00:10:45]>> I love it, James. It's good.

[00:10:46]>> The plane crash is incredible.

[00:10:48]>> Agreed.

[00:10:48]>> That whole sequence and walking. I mean, that's Lostes, isn't it? And just >> I guess it is. Yeah.

[00:10:53]>> Just garbage scattered everyone. Not garbage like pieces of people and airplane. But that like that's all that's all amazing. Obviously, the car scene, you know, where he gets the car taken from him and he pulls out the gun.

[00:11:05]That was one moment where I was like, how was he the only one here with a gun?

[00:11:08]>> With a gun. Exactly.

[00:11:08]>> Oh no, there's another guy with a gun.

[00:11:10]There's two guys with a gun.

[00:11:11]>> But who like astounding that in that scene of like did Spielberg forget what country this was set in?

[00:11:18]>> The fact that of all those people only two guys brought a gun >> and a handgun. That's all.

[00:11:23]>> Yeah.

[00:11:23]>> Come on, man. I think if you had to give like an annoying kid award, it would be the son, right?

[00:11:29]>> Agreed.

[00:11:29]>> Cuz he keeps trying to join the army like mid battle. What are you doing?

[00:11:34]There's a procedure for this.

[00:11:35]>> What do you think's going to happen?

[00:11:36]They're going to just give you a helmet and a gun and let you maybe >> maybe >> maybe these maybe there been a few years of that, you know.

[00:11:45]>> And at the end he wants to run over the hill and and Tom Cruz is like, "What?

[00:11:49]What are you doing?" And he's like, "Well, I I just want to see this. I have to see this. You've seen it. You've been pursued by aliens like across the state.

[00:11:56]What do you mean you're going to go and have a look?" You get it, right?

[00:12:00]>> A good look.

[00:12:01]>> A real good look.

[00:12:02]>> Yeah. A good look at all the explosions that are happening. Yeah. Right on you and whatever. And he's he dies, doesn't he? Not really. We'll talk about it. How does the Tim Robbins scene feel from this? This is like a character that's that is in the original book, but this paranoid guy living in a basement has all these theories about the aliens and whatever, and he's like, "Me and you, Tom Cruz. We're going to we're going to start a underground resistance.

[00:12:23]>> But first, I'm going to scream a lot.

[00:12:25]I'm going to scream so much and make so much noise. We're going to scuffle and then you're going to have to kill me."

[00:12:29]>> That's right. Exactly. Yeah. Well, originally it was wasn't going to be Tim Robbins that he uh he stomps to death.

[00:12:34]There was going to be a scene where Tom Cruz stomps on a baby alien that slithered out of a pod.

[00:12:39]>> Okay.

[00:12:40]>> Cuz the idea was, and this isn't explicitly said, the red weed that the aliens are spreading, that's to feed their their infants.

[00:12:47]>> I see.

[00:12:48]>> So, I thought it was some kind of terraforming thing, and I guess it is to a degree, but no, it's for it's for baby aliens.

[00:12:54]>> For baby alien grazing. I understand.

[00:12:56]Maybe Tom Cruz doesn't want to be seen stomping a baby alien to death.

[00:13:00]>> Sure.

[00:13:01]>> I think that would be patriotic.

[00:13:02]>> Unless you're a turncoat. What if the aliens come and there's footage of Tom Cruz stomping on an alien?

[00:13:07]>> That's true.

[00:13:07]>> He's in trouble then, isn't he, Mason?

[00:13:09]>> That's true.

[00:13:10]>> Yeah.

[00:13:10]>> How do you feel about the alien design in this? The three-legged almost like I saw them described as like a tree frog kind of the way that they >> Yeah. You know, I like it more than I like the 1950s version. Yeah. It always strikes me as odd that the aliens look exactly like their mode of transport.

[00:13:26]You know what I mean, >> right? Okay. Yeah.

[00:13:28]>> Be like if we walked around in big men >> or we looked like cars.

[00:13:33]>> Okay. Yeah, I see what you're saying.

[00:13:35]>> Yeah.

[00:13:35]>> Well, the aliens didn't even recognize wheels. They're like, "What's this?"

[00:13:38]>> It's a wheel, you dumbass.

[00:13:39]>> You missed the wheel.

[00:13:40]>> Yeah.

[00:13:41]>> Why you making straight to big leg?

[00:13:44]>> What's your planet like? You know how you can't use wheel? The principle of wheel. There is a bit of I feel like Independence Day design to these aliens.

[00:13:52]>> I agree too. Yeah.

[00:13:53]>> Not not entirely, but >> No, but I mean I suppose there's been, you know, a billion trillion War of the Worlds alien designs. I'm sure there's been illustrated versions of the book and stuff like that. And I imagine both Independence Day and this probably took inspiration from those, i.e. ripped them off.

[00:14:08]>> Sure. I guess like the idea though that Tom Cruz is an ineffectual just bystander basically for this entire situation does play into the idea of the ending and they go with this ending again that they just die and so this man who had no real say in any of this.

[00:14:26]>> Sure.

[00:14:26]>> Who barely survived just ran from event to event. Sometimes he's on a boat, sometimes he's in a house.

[00:14:31]>> Sometimes he's got grenades.

[00:14:32]>> Sometimes he's got Oh, that's true. He does do a grenades. Sometimes he points out some birds and then they're able to shoot it with a javelin or whatever.

[00:14:38]>> Sure.

[00:14:39]>> Yeah. I mean, they would have figured that out eventually.

[00:14:41]>> I mean, if you gave if you again, if you gave real Tom Cruz >> like a bunch of grenades and you said sort out this alien invasion, I think over a long enough time frame, he could do that. He could grenade each of those.

[00:14:53]I He wouldn't again cuz he's going to be on the side of the aliens, but I think if if I think he has the he has the capability to do that, he could do it.

[00:15:01]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:15:01]>> So, I think, you know, over a long enough time frame, this guy could have saved the day with enough grenades.

[00:15:07]>> Can you say that of anybody though? Over over a long enough time frame, anybody can do anything.

[00:15:12]>> It's actually very inspirational.

[00:15:14]>> No, no, it's not meant to be.

[00:15:15]>> Well, it was too bad. No, no, you've inspired a generation.

[00:15:18]>> Long enough time frame could be a thousand years.

[00:15:20]>> Good.

[00:15:21]>> People are still going to be watching these in a thousand years. Great. Great.

[00:15:25]But you know what? He's changed as a man. I think maybe that's maybe that's the maybe I think that is the the the um for sure the arc of this one is that again I didn't think Spielberg wanted to mess with the structure of the original story line which is you know aliens die on their own cuz they're dumb. They didn't invent wheel or penicellin >> alien penicellin.

[00:15:45]>> Alien penicellin ancillin >> alicillin.

[00:15:49]>> No you're right the first time.

[00:15:50]>> Yeah anacillin.

[00:15:53]>> When you're hot you're hot.

[00:15:55]>> Thank you. uh we're going to inspire people for a thousand years. But I think you know the so he was like well we we introduce an everyman and he changes for the better.

[00:16:03]>> Yeah. Okay. You know >> I mean he must have been pretty terrible that this was the thing that changed him.

[00:16:07]>> You know something this extreme.

[00:16:09]>> Well that's I mean that's that's you know Tom Cruz and Spielberg's interpretation of the everyman. Awful.

[00:16:15]And would only improve if the world was in peril.

[00:16:18]>> If he had to because his wife drove somewhere else.

[00:16:21]>> Yeah.

[00:16:21]>> Yeah. But yeah. So they all just get sick at the end and they die. I like to think, you know, when the alien comes out of the machine, there's just a bunch of orange liquid flowing out. That that's the alien vomiting. Absolutely.

[00:16:31]Just absolutely just chucking its guts up and then it slides out >> like in a 7-Eleven car park.

[00:16:36]>> Exactly. It's had a big orange yellow slushie and it's just >> desperately searching out for a kebab van.

[00:16:43]>> Yeah.

[00:16:45]And his son's alive.

[00:16:46]>> Yep.

[00:16:46]>> His son's alive. And then there's some original War of the Worlds people there.

[00:16:49]They're the grandparents as well. I know. Does that feel like a copout that his son's just like he ran over the explosion hill and then he's there and >> it does feel a little bit shaped, doesn't it?

[00:16:58]>> Yeah.

[00:16:59]>> And he doesn't have any skills or layers.

[00:17:02]>> I mean, he he'll try to >> his hair had some layers.

[00:17:04]>> He's had some Yeah, his hair his skills is he tries to join the army multiple times and he clearly just kept getting knocked back.

[00:17:11]>> Well, maybe that was it. Maybe he went to join the alien army over the hill >> and they're like, "We admire your gumption, >> so we won't kill you."

[00:17:19]>> Oh. No, I'm fine. Don't worry about it.

[00:17:23]>> I feel like I should really like this and I just don't.

[00:17:26]>> Yeah.

[00:17:27]>> I think for me, >> are these getting worse?

[00:17:30]>> I mean, it's it's a perfectly well-made movie, isn't it? For sure.

[00:17:33]>> And it's and it's pretty accurate to the original. Pays homage to the the 1950s version. Special effects are pretty good. Yeah. You know, Spielberg, he knows how to make a movie.

[00:17:44]>> Absolutely. But look, to me it is because it doesn't have the scope of Independence Day like that. To me, that is the movie that all of these War of the Worlds movies are going to have to compare to. And the, you know, the citysized spaceships and the, you know, the willingness to just atomize New York City in one zap.

[00:18:04]>> Sure.

[00:18:04]>> You know, you like that?

[00:18:06]>> I loved it. Just, you know, huge and fun.

[00:18:09]>> Yeah. Okay.

[00:18:09]>> You know, but this this less fun.

[00:18:11]>> Anyway, it's time for war trivia. Oh, yes. This is a trivia section of the show where we bring trivia. Both of us bring trivia.

[00:18:16]>> Dads, listen up. It's time for war trivia. They love that. We're going to get a whole new audience with this.

[00:18:21]>> I hope so. During the filming the underwater scene where the fairy capsizes, director Steven Spielberg played a prank on Tom Cruz and Dakota Fanning by playing the Jaws theme.

[00:18:29]>> Ah, great. Good stuff.

[00:18:30]>> And they're like, "Yep, >> good stuff.

[00:18:33]>> Good joke.

[00:18:33]>> Thanks, Stephen.

[00:18:34]>> Thanks, Stephen.

[00:18:35]>> That's good.

[00:18:35]>> There's not really a shark though, is there?" No, there is.

[00:18:38]>> Yeah. Dakota, just for your There was a movie in the 70s, decades before you were born about sharks.

[00:18:43]>> That's what this is referencing to.

[00:18:45]>> Yeah.

[00:18:45]>> So therefore, it is a good prank.

[00:18:47]>> We got you good.

[00:18:50]>> According to an interview with Miranda Otto, she originally turned down the part because she was newly pregnant.

[00:18:54]However, Spielberg wanted her to play the part and change the script to incorporate that into her role.

[00:18:59]>> You're pregnant now.

[00:18:59]>> And Tom Cruz is like, "You look great, baby.

[00:19:02]>> I love that about you.

[00:19:04]>> Sexual.

[00:19:04]>> I'm sexual now. I mean, I always have been and I always will be.

[00:19:08]>> But you got that from doing it and I approve >> cuz that's the thing I like doing, too.

[00:19:14]>> Yeah, man.

[00:19:15]>> And everybody likes that I do it also.

[00:19:17]>> The convoy scene was filmed on one of 2004's coldest days in Virginia so cold that the unfreezable blue liquid in the portable latrines that froze solid.

[00:19:28]>> You love that, don't you?

[00:19:29]>> No.

[00:19:30]>> You love it.

[00:19:31]>> I That's No, >> I don't know, man. I guess I'm not for or against it. It's interesting, I suppose.

[00:19:37]>> Yeah, it is interesting, I suppose.

[00:19:38]>> Oh, so you're into it?

[00:19:39]>> I love it.

[00:19:41]>> We're the same. We both love it.

[00:19:42]>> No, no, no, no, no, no.

[00:19:45]>> I don't I don't want to be known for that for the next thousand years.

[00:19:48]>> Box office budget of $132 million. This made $63.9.

[00:19:53]>> Okay, big return.

[00:19:54]>> Big hit, Mason. One of the biggest hits of the year, >> but no return of the War of the Worlds.

[00:19:58]M well interesting because Tom Cruz made hundred million from this movie due to upfront salary and first dollar gross but Steven Spielberg and him they had a bit of a fallout.

[00:20:08]>> Oh no. So >> a Mission Impossible fallout.

[00:20:11]>> No, that was a different thing that they had. No, they didn't do that together.

[00:20:14]So there there's been rumblings and none of this has really been confirmed that during the filming of this Cruz's behavior was >> erratic.

[00:20:21]>> Erratic. He was uh >> he did the you did the hand signals for erratic. Yeah, he he was uh talking up like Church of Scientology stuff. He did the Oprah Winfrey couch jumping situation.

[00:20:32]>> That was then where he hit her with the lightning bolts.

[00:20:35]>> Exactly. Yeah. It's interesting because Spielberg was also supposed to be on an episode of Oprah and he pulled out and I don't know whether that was related or not >> cuz he can't do lightning bolts.

[00:20:42]>> Yeah, that's probably >> he's got limits this guy. He's one of our greatest living filmmakers, but he can't do lightning bolts.

[00:20:46]>> Yeah, you might be right. I mean, it says that he had, you know, he had last minute post-production work, so maybe that is the case. But also apparently Cruz was ranting against the use of rolin in children with ADD. He angered one of Spielberg psychologist friends after he was harassed by Scientologists after Spielberg mentioned the doctor's name in Cruz's presence.

[00:21:05]>> I see.

[00:21:06]>> So yeah, so they didn't make him they haven't made a movie since. But after the return of Top Gun Maverick, Spielberg said this about Tom Cruz. You saved Hollywood's ass and you might have saved theatrical distribution.

[00:21:18]Seriously, Maverick might have saved the entire theatrical industry. So, there you go.

[00:21:23]>> You might be right.

[00:21:23]>> And maybe >> maybe it was Barbie and Oppenheimer as well.

[00:21:27]>> Oh, yeah. Maybe it's War of the Worlds 2025.

[00:21:30]>> Yeah, maybe it was.

[00:21:31]>> Did that go straight to streaming?

[00:21:33]>> Yes.

[00:21:33]>> I mean, I think if there was ever a movie which encouraged people to leave their homes.

[00:21:37]>> Yeah, >> it was it was that one.

[00:21:39]>> It went straight to phones, I think.

[00:21:41]>> Did it?

[00:21:41]>> It was like that YouTube album.

[00:21:42]>> Oh, great. I love straight to phone streaming technology that's automatically there. Yeah, it went straight to phone, but also like the little thumbnail one.

[00:21:50]>> Okay. So, you can still do other phone stuff.

[00:21:51]>> Yeah, absolutely.

[00:21:52]>> Brilliant stuff, Mason. Well, speaking of, that's the movie we're going to be covering next week. I've never seen it.

[00:21:57]I've only seen clips of it. So, I'm very excited. You came in white hot into our podcast, The Weekly Planet, telling me that you saw it.

[00:22:04]>> Oh, it's a treat.

[00:22:05]>> It's special.

[00:22:07]And not just because the format because we'll we'll talk about it next week because there there are movies with this format that work quite well. But boy this does not but also it works incredibly well for what they were attempting to do which is to make a really bad movie I think >> cuz why else would you make the movie like that?

[00:22:23]>> That video is going to be early at big sandwich.co along with a bunch of stuff we have there exclusively. It's like our private Patreon Mason.

[00:22:29]>> I love a bunch of stuff.

[00:22:30]>> Agreed. There's video game let's plays.

[00:22:33]There's bonus podcasts. We do a comic book club. We've got a bunch of commentaries including the original Independence Day and for the Cloverfield movie. The original Cloverfield movie.

[00:22:42]The good one. Actually, the second one's a good one, too. But the first one's a good one also, isn't it?

[00:22:46]>> First one's good.

[00:22:47]>> Yeah. As mentioned, we also have a podcast called The Weekly Planet that comes out every Monday if you are interested. It's got its own YouTube channel, Spotify, Apple. Check it out.

[00:22:55]It's a $100 worth of content for free.

[00:22:57]>> Wow.

[00:22:58]>> Yeah. What do you think of that?

[00:22:59]>> I for free.

[00:23:01]>> I can't argue with that. I was going to say it's it's worth more, but it's not.

[00:23:05]$100 is very generous, but it is free.

[00:23:07]>> It's nourishing, but just to the soul.

[00:23:10]>> And it's free.

[00:23:11]>> Yeah.

[00:23:11]>> Thank you so much to Ben and Lawrence for the edit.

[00:23:13]>> Thank you, Ben and Lawrence.

[00:23:14]>> Let's all leave.

[00:23:15]>> Let's all leave. Some inspiring words.

[00:23:17]>> Yeah. Go outside just for a little bit, but come back inside. It's safer inside.

[00:23:21]It's better. All your stuff's there.