The J-10C fourth-generation Chinese fighter has integrated the PL-17, described as the world's longest-range beyond-visual-range (BVR) air-to-air missile, through the DF43 external weapons pylon system. Despite initial concerns about the missile's weight potentially exceeding the J-10C's carrying capacity, analysts suggest that data link guidance from fifth-generation J-35 stealth fighters and multi-domain operations (including cyber and electronic warfare assets) can compensate for the J-10C's smaller radar and shorter lock-on range. This integration represents a significant advancement in Pakistan's air combat capabilities, potentially providing a strategic advantage over India's R37M-equipped Su-30MKI fleet and AEW&C assets.
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Bismillah Rahma Rahim Assalam Walekum Scud Ali Hamza Retired PF Pilot And as you must have seen in the previous videos, we have discussed a lot about current affairs and air power on these, then another news came to my notice, its headline is World's longest range air to air missile integrated on two China's J10C fighters, so we will just take it as a news, so I will not make any such claim that I have got PL7 and 400 km plus on J10C and now we will destroy all the AWACS of India because this work is given to the Indians only, that the R37 mm, it is not known whether it will be launched or not, but it will be launched on Su 30 MKI and then God forbid, its range is 400 km, so our AWACS will be in great danger, so we will take this because the last video I made, on which some comments were made below that no, you are downplaying the threat and this and that, I said this I had given the example of Sushant Singh and for those who have not seen that video, the South China Military posted that by the time R37M arrives there, Pakistan would have already got better missiles than that. Now will it come with J35 or will it come on J10C, let us see. Now let's see what he is saying.
Images released on Chinese social media on May 11 have confirmed that the J10C 4th generation fighter has integrated the new DF43 external weapons pylon which are used to integrate the world's longest range air-to-air missile type the PL7.
Ok? On to J6 fighters. That means they are saying that the pylon on which it is placed, it is already placed on J6, PL7, because it is heavy, so definitely J6 can lift it. This question also came to my mind regarding J10C that man, PL7 is such a heavy missile and will it hit J10C due to its weight or something else? Now the pylons that are fitted on J6D, sorry not J6D, only J6 D, its electronic warfare is on them, those on which that piece is not fitted, have been seen on J10C0 C.
Now it is okay, from now on if anyone wants to say anything then he should not bother that it was not that, it was that, it was photoshop and all of it, we are also saying the same thing right now that brother, let us do an analysis on this. This has led analysts to widely conclude that J10C units were very likely also beginning to be equipped with PL7 missiles, which could transform how they are employed. The J16 and J10C are fielded as a high-low combination of fourth-generation fighter aircraft. The former was a twin-engine and the latter a single-engine J6. The larger aircraft, the 12-engine, high-low, is high-low for us. The J10C, and the JF7, are high-low for them. The J6 and J10C, then, while both were developed in parallel and are similar, are softer as a significantly smaller fighter. The J10C has a much lower weapons- carrying capacity and its smaller radar and shorter target lock-on range, but it was previously thought to have limited its suitability to integrate the PL17.
That's exactly what we discussed as well, due to its weight and smaller size. And its radar range is also obviously less than that. So now this raises questions about whether it is likely that a primary rationale for equipping the Jetta with the PL7 is to better market the fighter type for export. It is not that the first images of the fighter type equipped with the new fighter were released less than a week after the Pakistan Air Force announced plans to procure both further Jetta fighters and an unknown new long-range missile type, which was at the time speculated to be the PL7.
The Indian Defence Ministry was reported in April to have ordered Russian R37M air-to-air missiles, a design which is considered a direct counterpart to the PL17LB, but a less advanced and shorter-range one. The Pakistan Air Force's perceived need for the missile may have been influenced by development scenes in the Indian fleet. ok sir. Now they are saying that will J10C be imposed on them or not? PL7 But it is a fact that PL7 is better than R37M.
Its range is greater. Ok. Now if it comes attached above J35 and even if it does not come attached at J10C, then if the restored PL7 comes in PF and R37M comes there, then the edge will still remain with me.
I talked about this in the last video that you should compare R37M with PL15. So I am not on PL 15. I have to remain seated.
I will also take something else. Now in this again very briefly I will see one important thing that in employment, not in its own, I am better than India, that India has this issue which I had talked about last time that they have EWS and multi domain operations and everything, I have just demonstrated this, silent kill chain J10C fired PL 15 without its radar lock through data link, so actually this weight issue in this was in my mind, the second objection that it raised that it has its own radar, so it is probably okay for it to employ itself, if it cannot do it like J6, then with all that space assets, cyber assets, just now the Chief of the Staff had said that when they flew packages from there, our cyber people were present everywhere in India before our radar, you were listening to their RT calls, so through electronic warfare and cyber you came to know beforehand that they were taking off.
So, Alhamdulillah, when you employ in all your domains, I think that if the issue of weight has been resolved, then I do not see any issue in all the other issues of JTC in PL 17 employment.
Any how already the JC radar is not sufficiently powerful to guide this we have already talked about it. Ok? And whatever happens after this, he has said that it has to be seen also.
So I said that this issue is not that big because you have other assets for guidance. There are ground based ones, satellite ones, and there are also inside X.
How will you do that Link 17 and those networking issues of India?
Falcon is easy. Ok? It is not known whether Netra Mark 2 has such capability or not.
So they also have less numbers. There are only three Falcons. So what I have is Saab.
It is also more in numbers. Ok? There are 9 and apart from that if KJ 500 comes then if I am saying this because I do not know then have these issues of mine also been resolved then this is my opinion that this objection which is so much that they do not have their own radar to do it up to 400 km, that is not a big issue, wait it will be the only issue in my opinion and if that issue is resolved then I am saying this because they have said that the picture of that launcher has come then hopefully it will be integrated. Ok? Apart from that, whatever issues have been mentioned in it, there is no problem in it. Ok?
Pakistan Air Force has reportedly already used the J10C under high intensity air to air combat. Again, away from the same operation and doing all that. Now he also said almost the same thing that I was saying. It is then expected to receive J35 fifth generation fighters which have optimal capabilities to provide targeting data to the J10C. Now see this, if J35 comes and it is in stealth mode and behind it is J10C with PL7 attached to it because when I had said that PL7 will come with J10 J35, then some people had said that its stay will be compromised because it will not come in internal weapon mode, six PL6 will come in internal weapon mode, earlier four PL 15 used to come, now those six PL 16 with crop wings and their range will also increase, that is, the claim is that much, it is also 200 km plus, so good for me, the main point is that if it goes ahead in complete stealth 100% stay and it gives the targeting data to it and I have done this to show that this can happen.
Ok? So J10C, without even turning on its PL15 radar, has no worries that it will take data from there, from J35's radar, from AC and will blindly fire PL7.
So that's why I said that I don't think that any option other than weight will be a problem in this. The first image of the PL-17 emerged in 2016, while in the late 2023 image for the first time confirmed that it was in active service. Its development as Chinese air-to-air missile development increasing worldwide is widely attested to by US sources after the PL- 15 was seen to have comfortably out-matched its US counterpart, the M-120D, in the mid-2010s. Here's a 2021-22 Senate report in which one of their generals is saying that we don't have an answer to their PL-5.
And now the M260, which they have called the Jettom Joint Attack Tactical Missile, the M260 is going to be a game changer for them. Because right now if they come face to face, then I am not saying that it means obviously USA, it is a super power. They have other things too. There is F22, there is F35. Just on paper, between PL15 and M120, PL15 is the better missile. And Mur's too, except he has a larger no escape zone.
Apart from that, you can add as many variables as you want.
He is also better in this as an air to air missile.
It has a ramjet engine, so it can eventually reach its no-escape zone and do whatever it can. But if that fire happens then it will reach NG, right? That's why PL 15 is the number one BVR in the world. And now Alhamdulillah its next version PL6 and 17, I had said this in R37 also that it is a little different, it can be fired on fighters but because of its maneuverability and all that is actually a killer for the air, your big ships and those are not maneuverable, they are of slow speed. So these 17 and R37 MM are some of those. So in the BVR fighter, after PL 15, we now have 16, so okay, in J35, apart from that, four PL 15s are fitted in the six internal weapon ways, so definitely because its size is getting smaller, so six on J10C, even if four, then 17, for this purpose, they have to buy R37M, otherwise, if they have given some examples, R37M and M74 and the SM2 which is fitted on F18, again, that is a SAM which they have air-launched and fitted on F8. So we will just conclude all these things.
Unconfirmed reports indicate that the new Chinese missile can benefit from satellite course correction via data link much as a new generation of Chinese surface-to-air missiles currently under development can and that it uses dual infrared and infrared and radar terminal seekers. So we have already seen his active visa seeker in PL 15. There will also be infrared with it. Active visa would be better. The guidance system has been improved. It can also be taken from satellite through data link.
We have seen from Guidance Avex that he is taking it.
So Mashallah it is going to be a very good capability and it is expected that this PL7 will come in PF service before R37M in Indian Air Force, it will come on J10C so well and good then it means it has been imposed on both, on J35 as well as on this or it will come along with J35 as well so Alhamdulillah the parity is that actually rather not parity okay so from India now one up one up because of PL 15 than J35 35 and 17 so anyway ok sir this was an article I said I should share with you and on this then as I said if anyone wants to object that the article is wrong then it is absolutely fine brother they make it wrong there is no issue PL 17 is coming inshalla okay so is the article wrong or okay you should stop beating the drum of your R37Mm so anny how ji let's finish it here thank you very much your thoughts on it Keep it Allah Hafiz, Pakistan Zindabad
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