Is Bam Rodriguez Ready For Naoya Inoue??? | INSIDE THE RING TEASER

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[00:04:57]>> Live from Los Angeles, this is Inside the Ring Boxing's official show of record. I'm your host, Max Kellerman.

[00:05:03]Joining me to my right, a former heavyweight contender and world-class trainer, Malik Scott.

[00:05:09]>> What's up, Max?

[00:05:10]>> To my left, what's going on, Malik? A man who truly believes America cares about hockey, Ring Magazine senior insider, MIKE COPPINGER.

[00:05:16]>> LET'S GO, KNICKS. Get it.

[00:05:18]>> Yes, yes. And to Mike's left, a man who gives zero pucks about hockey, former all-decade NFL running back, Shady McCoy.

[00:05:28]>> Oh, that's a great That's a great observation.

[00:05:29]>> If Shady's actually from Philly, he would know the Flyers are bigger than the Sixers in Philly. But >> Are you insane?

[00:05:34]>> What? Flyers are huge in Philly.

[00:05:36]>> They are not huge in Philly. Sixers >> I'm not saying what I like.

[00:05:39]>> WELL, ACTUALLY, AFTER WHAT THE KNICKS JUST did to him, maybe he's right at the moment.

[00:05:43]>> [laughter] >> All right. Coming up on today's show, the number three ranked cruiserweight in the world coming off his brutal fight against Ryan [music] Rozicki. Big win for Chris Billam-Smith. He's joining us.

[00:05:55]And joining us a bit later, >> [music] >> the number 10 lightweight in the world, Joe Cordina. But right now, it is time for the lead hook.

[00:06:05]And the number four ranked pound-for-pound fighter in the world, Jesse "Bam" Rodriguez, made his bantamweight debut against number five ranked bantamweight Antonio Vargas.

[00:06:15]>> [music] >> Vargas started strong, but Bam dropped him with a left hand in the fifth round and [music] finished things a round later. Malik, I'm going right to you on this one.

[00:06:24]>> Yes.

[00:06:25]>> How did you think, with your trainer's eye, Bam Rodriguez looked in his bantamweight debut?

[00:06:32]>> I was very impressive, but like I said before, Max, this wasn't like a measuring stick for him in a monster fight. I knew he was going to do this to Vargas, but what I was impressed with the most, Captain Obvious, his footwork.

[00:06:42]I've never seen nobody a southpaw constantly consistently get around to that right side. And the foot game that we always talk about, Max, that southpaw with that foot outside and taking the center control, he does that the whole time and he makes guys pay off of the step, off of >> And then when he moves in the the the opposite direction, it's a choice he's making. So he can fight you in semicircles cuz he can establish the outside foot, move where he wants, turn you the other way. It's like you don't know where he's coming from. It's like you're fighting three guys.

[00:07:11]>> And Vargas came to fight. He was doing a lot of flurries and stuff, but the Bam was just so calm and cool with the high guard and coming right back, continue to use his shifts. And he have a lot of audacity. He has that thing that we talk about that fighters have. I do a good thing very very well. Y'all know what's going to happen. Let me see you stop it. The whole world know how his feet move. The whole world know he's going to pivot. These guys can't stop it. We're going to see if the monster can.

[00:07:33]>> And then and then he's not called "Pitty Pat" Rodriguez. He's called "Bam" Rodriguez. So so SO YOU KNOW WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO WITH his feet, but you got to watch those hands, too. What do you think, cop?

[00:07:43]>> Yeah, what Malik said, I mean, what stood out to me is you know, it reminds me of three different fighters, right?

[00:07:46]Other southpaws, Lomachenko, Pacquiao, and Chocolatito. The way that he slides to the right with those seamless and it's really seamless the way he pivots to the right and then the punches are coming from all angles. You really can't stop it. He's not a straight up and down, no special effects fighter like Floyd Mayweather would say, right? And we talk about a lot of the other pound-for-pound greats, right? But Bam Rodriguez is also pound-for-pound entertainment. I mean, this guy's always in fantastic fights. And Max, I really thought that was a proper measuring stick even though we didn't think it would be because Vargas did have some good moments and put it on him.

[00:08:16]>> So, by the way, before you know who Bam reminds me of a little bit?

[00:08:20]Bad Stevie Johnston. Remember little Stevie Johnston? If you gave him punching power. You give Stevie Johnston real punching power, and who is he going to lose to, right? That's That's who Bam We used to also call him Bam Bam.

[00:08:34]>> He hit hard as hell like the old Bam Bam. When I watch him, I'll just say this, if you're not into boxing, right?

[00:08:40]You're not into sports. There's certain fighters, certain players, athletes that are so special. If you don't know nothing about basketball and if I throw on a tape of Michael Jordan, you're like, "Damn, this dude is different."

[00:08:49]Football, right? It could be I don't know.

[00:08:52]Myself, Barry Sanders, guys like this special. When you watch Bam, if you don't know nothing about boxing, he looks special. You talked about Lomachenko, the the footwork, the the the angles, and then he hits your ass so hard. I love Bam. There's no way you can tell me >> That's like the best point you made in like five shows.

[00:09:09]>> [laughter] >> That's a Well, that's a hell of a point.

[00:09:11]>> I'm bearing I'm bearing two shows.

[00:09:12]>> That's a You're listening. But real quick, that's a hell of a point. There's some dudes you can look at and you and you don't have to know anything about the sport and know they're different.

[00:09:21]>> Yes. He's special.

[00:09:23]>> I'm sorry, I didn't mean to step on >> no, no. Anytime you cut me off, that means I did a good point.

[00:09:27]But I will say that with Bam, I never thought [music] a a fighter could touch the monster. Even like a Tony, I knew that was that was easy work. Bet all that money I had it pocket, easy work.

[00:09:36]>> It wasn't easy, but he won.

[00:09:37]>> [music] >> Well, every every judge thought that one guy was winning.

[00:09:40]>> He did He won.

[00:09:41]>> He Anyway, we're on the same page.

[00:09:42]>> BUT WITH BAM BAM >> YES.

[00:09:44]>> I don't know, dog.

[00:09:45]>> A- And to Sheddy's point, too, right?

[00:09:47]What I love about Bam is he doesn't care that he's going to get hit cuz he knows that he's more powerful. He will step right in the pocket and take two or three to land his two or three.

[00:09:55]>> With no panic.

[00:09:56]>> But he's no But the difference is he It's not that he's content with taking the shots. He's defensively responsible.

[00:10:01]Yeah, sometimes you're going to get clipped when you're aggressive. He's like he he has really good boxing skills, but he doesn't deploy them primarily defensively. He He employs them in order to hurt you.

[00:10:12]With responsible defense, recognizing when you're aggressive, you're going to get clipped sometimes.

[00:10:17]>> He is going to get his offense in no matter what. That's what he's about.

[00:10:21]>> That guy is clever.

[00:10:22]>> Yes, Crawford is exactly that kind of fighter.

[00:10:25]>> Max, is it time though that we start arguing and having this debate about the pound cuz I always thought it was Shakur?

[00:10:33]I don't know though cuz Bam got footwork.

[00:10:36]>> that. Let's table that for a second.

[00:10:38]Let's table that for a second. After the fight, Bam was asked about fighting Inoue, the Monster.

[00:10:44]And said whatever his team and Eddie Hearn says, he'll say yes. So, here's what Eddie had to say.

[00:10:51]>> What you're witnessing with Bam, I think he's the pound-for-pound number one fighter in this sport. And you know, a lot of these guys who reach up there are 28, 30, 32, 34. You have to understand this young man is 26 years of age. And what he's doing is incredible. And Vargas is a great fighter, but Bam is on another level. And he's got so much more to give to the sport. And as he said, you know, this place has become such an important place for him. Great performances here. And the, you know, the inevitable fight will get made. It's just a case of when. If the right offer comes and the opportunity comes, Bam will be there. And trust me when I say, he ain't getting beat. There's no one on this planet who's beating Bam Rodriguez at 118 or 122 lb. Not even Naoya Inoue.

[00:11:33]So, that is for me, as we said, just a pure magical fight. He's ready.

[00:11:39]Call me.

[00:11:40]>> Yeah, have I mean, this is this would be one of the most peak kind of amazing tiny weight fights, like below featherweight in the history of boxing.

[00:11:49]>> the biggest in the modern era.

[00:11:50]>> I'm trying to think of >> What would you get under 126? You know, when I was a kid, Salvador Sanchez fought Wilfredo Gomez. That's 26.

[00:11:58]>> Right. Gomez fought Carlos Zarate at 22.

[00:12:02]Um I'm just trying to >> Chocolatito fights, obviously.

[00:12:04]>> Yeah, but Chocolatito never fought another guy who was weight hopping and destroying guys and also a pound-for-pound top I mean, you know, no offense to Estrada. He's excellent. He's a great great fighter. But wasn't capturing people's imaginations the way the way Bam and Inoue are. Based on Bam's performance, let's get to Shady's question now.

[00:12:25]Is he rated correctly pound-for-pound?

[00:12:27]In other words, yes, he's top five, according to most.

[00:12:32]>> Top five.

[00:12:32]>> But he's not really in the conversation for the number one spot. Should he be?

[00:12:36]>> Yes, he should be in the conversation.

[00:12:38]Now, would I personally put him over the monster right now? No, because of all the accomplishments and the monster's still looking damn good. And the monster just clearly beat another pound-for-pound guy in a good fight and a competitive fight. So, I can't put him above him. But look, hey, I do believe this fight is going to happen with the monster. We broke the news right that this was in talks for January in Tokyo.

[00:12:57]And if that fight happens, whoever wins that is going to have slam dunks a cement case, right, Max? To be the pound-for-pound king.

[00:13:04]>> Uh well well, uh slam dunk cement case, huh?

[00:13:08]>> [music] >> Yeah, unless Shakur has a fight on that level or you know, cuz other guys could also >> That means he would have to fight another pound-for-pound guy.

[00:13:15]>> we'd also have to see how that fight plays out. I would say this.

[00:13:20]Bam is top five, for sure.

[00:13:22]>> Easy. [music] >> Is he number one? He doesn't have a win like Shakur has against Teofimo.

[00:13:28]>> I'd argue that, right.

[00:13:29]>> Where Shakur is really a junior lightweight, then a lightweight, now a junior welterweight, who's not really a junior welterweight who moved up to challenge the best guy in the division and and won basically every round, right?

[00:13:41]Bam hasn't done that yet. And then the eyeball test, Bam is amazing, but so Shakur. So, I couldn't jump Bam over Shakur. And right now most people don't have Shakur over Inoue or Usyk based on resume.

[00:13:54]>> Right, right.

[00:13:55]>> would seem to lock Bam out of real conversation as the number one guy.

[00:13:59]>> Well, I'll drop I'll drop Usyk a little bit.

[00:14:01]>> Okay.

[00:14:02]>> Kickboxer and all that, that was I was like >> saying Inoue, Shakur, and Bam?

[00:14:06]>> Yeah.

[00:14:06]>> You got Bam over over Usyk? Yes, I do.

[00:14:09]>> We're going to just forget the Fury fights? Those are gone?

[00:14:10]>> Well, I don't know I mean how long are we going to Let's see cuz I'm learning with this boxing thing, right? Like y'all pick and choose when you want to um promote players or promote fighters.

[00:14:18]So, for me, this is my For me, I got to What I see from Usyk, come on, man. Cuz you almost lost that fight. If it wasn't for the paper and all that, and I don't get mad at me, but dog, >> think Usyk was in the best shape he could have been in?

[00:14:29]>> Listen, in sports we don't ask them questions. I don't I don't I don't You know what I mean? I don't know that. But I do know is this.

[00:14:34]>> Fair, you took the fight, get in shape, right?

[00:14:35]>> We've Right, we've been watching all this New York Knicks and and San Antonio, I know one thing, Bam ain't going for that. I don't care who winning the championship. Bam is like that. And when you start acting like that, >> Bam Brunson?

[00:14:46]>> And another And another thing about Bam I like is like Shakur for me, I thought he's my number one guy. But then the difference is the eye test. Yeah, you did make Teo look like a kid. I'll get you with that.

[00:14:56]That was great. But when Bam's doing it, he's making you look like a kid and he's stopping you. And he's hurting you. He's got the footwork like Shakur AND HE'S POUNDING YOU OUT LIKE A LIKE A DAVID BENAVIDEZ.

[00:15:05]We got to talk about it.

[00:15:06]>> Can I I just want to mention one fighter cuz I've >> [laughter] >> I've compared Inoue and Bam to this guy.

[00:15:11]I want people to stop and for a second this is why you're sleeping on Usyk a little bit right now. Weight jumping matters when you're challenging yourself. Manny Pacquiao, what what division did Bam start in? 10105?

[00:15:21]>> 108, 105.

[00:15:22]>> 108, 108. same as Pacquiao.

[00:15:23]>> Pacquiao won his first lineal championship at 112.

[00:15:29]>> And his first title was 108.

[00:15:30]>> And first title, but first time he was the lineal champion. No, he didn't win at 108. No, no. 108, lineal title, his first title at 112. Then now he doesn't stop at every division. He jumped some of them. 115, 118, 122, 126, 130, 135, 140, 147, 154, and laid waste to these dudes. So when people when I talk about pound for pound and Pacquiao and I put him over Mayweather, how could you do that?

[00:15:58]Mayweather beat him.

[00:15:59]>> Now what you talking about?

[00:16:01]>> It's like the reason I bring it up is cuz we're talking about Bam and Shakur pound for pound. IMAGINE IF BAM ONE DAY FOUGHT SHAKUR STEVENSON AND THEN BARELY LOST.

[00:16:11]>> YES, CRAZY.

[00:16:12]>> RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I'M SO THAT'S SO WHEN SO WHEN YOU TALK about Usyk and you take the credit away cuz he just struggled with a kickboxer, the fact is >> the weight.

[00:16:20]>> Usyk not only jumped from cruiser to heavy, which is a huge jump. Like Bam Bam and Pacquiao and these guys, they jump all these weight divisions, it might be 10% of their body weight.

[00:16:29]Usyk does that going from cruiserweight to heavyweight, but then Wait, wait, wait, Shady. He doesn't just fight a guy his own size. He makes the same jump those dudes do and then GIVES UP 30 LB TO A DUDE. YOU GOT TO GIVE USYK RIGHT. WELL, NO, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT FURY.

[00:16:46]I mean like yes, he did all that. But But even the kickboxer, even Rico, he still gave up 30 lb to the dude.

[00:16:54]>> And and to your point, Max, last night in UFC fight, right? Alex Pereira, whose last fight was at 205 and he was a damn good fighter at 205, goes up to heavyweight where he's like 245, got smoked.

[00:17:04]>> 251 or something like that. You know, it's not it's not easy.

[00:17:07]>> Pereira is a great fighter.

[00:17:08]>> I don't know much about guys wrestling.

[00:17:09]I I like boxing. I'm a boxing show. But I'm going to say this real quick.

[00:17:12][laughter] Like that's cool when you are right about that, but also he gets the advantage too. He's quicker and faster than all them guys he's fighting. Right?

[00:17:20]>> Then why don't more little guys move up and beat those big guys?

[00:17:25]>> Well, well, can we do this though because like when when dudes win, y'all give them credit and y'all show all them all this love.

[00:17:30]>> HE ALMOST LOST.

[00:17:32]>> OKAY, OKAY, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

[00:17:33]WAIT, >> [laughter] >> GUYS, Shakur has his opinion. You say you're going to you're going to drop Usyk. Okay, that's fair. We don't agree exactly, but we understand where you're coming from.

[00:17:42]>> Thank you.

[00:17:42]>> And and you have your own thoughts of it. So, if you drop Usyk, then who is remaining is is in a way Shakur, Bam. Do you put Bivol in there?

[00:17:52]>> I'm putting Bam in there.

[00:17:53]>> Okay, so three. You're Bivol is a little I agree with this so far. I think Bivol is slightly below those guys, maybe a quarter step. Okay, so those big three, how do you order those big three?

[00:18:03]>> You just did it.

[00:18:04]>> In order. Inoue, Shakur, Bam.

[00:18:07]>> That's right.

[00:18:07]>> So, you have him third. Where do you have Bam?

[00:18:09]>> Uh I would have Bam third.

[00:18:13]>> Where do you have him? Okay.

[00:18:14]>> Now, here's my I have but I have Shakur below behind Bam.

[00:18:17]>> Okay, you have him behind Bam.

[00:18:20]>> Um no, I'll go Inoue, Inoue one, Usyk two, Bam three.

[00:18:24]>> Okay, watch this, guys.

[00:18:25]If you ask me my honest pound-for-pound, I'm I'm just doing it for myself personally, okay? I don't believe this is No, this is this is the ring This is the ring. Inoue, Usyk, Shakur, Bam, and then Benavidez, by the way, who also should I agree with Benavidez slightly above Bivol right now, okay?

[00:18:42]And then the rest clearly are not quite in this category. I will say this, I don't think pound-for-pound is like fighting for a ranking in a division. A weight division, you're fighting for your ranking, you have to earn it cuz you're earning a title shot. This is people's professions, guys who earned it more than you deserve the shot before you do.

[00:19:01]Pound-for-pound is just what you believe in the moment.

[00:19:04]In the moment, my honest belief pound-for-pound is that >> [music] >> it goes Shakur, Bam, Inoue.

[00:19:14]>> Let me see. Yeah, that's a good point, Max. Let me tell you this. If Shakur fights any of your top three >> Well, if we're talk of those three, of those if he's Usyk Usyk still is. Usyk would still be up there.

[00:19:26]What I'm saying is I'm not talking about who's proven it. I can't prove it to you based on a rational argument. All I can tell you is I'm watching these guys and I think in that division, that guy is harder to beat than that guy. I think the hardest guy to beat is Shakur cuz you can't touch him.

[00:19:40]>> So when I when I had it when I said it a while ago y'all laughing about the Shakur and then the updates came out and he was a he was a top-tier dude and there was no more laughing at what my pick. Only thing is what anyway, I got to give him credit because yo, you doing it against top five dudes, top six dudes in pound-for-pound.

[00:19:55]>> Yeah.

[00:19:55]>> or 10.

[00:19:56]>> And we're going to need more fights to really clear this up, Max. I mean, again, in [music] Haneyway, we think he's going to fight Bam early next year, that'll clear that up. If we see Shakur and Devin Haney, they're in talks and Shakur can beat Devin Haney in in fashion at 147.

[00:20:10]That changes everything.

[00:20:12]But, you know, there's some hesitance right now, so I don't know. I think that's a tough fight for both guys. I mean, Haney's longer than Shakur.

[00:20:18]>> And he's naturally bigger. He's pretty obvious.

[00:20:20]>> He is. But if but if but if Shakur can go up and beat Haney, then he maybe is number one.

[00:20:26]>> Now y'all know I love me some Haney's. I love the pop and I love the son. I love Haney's. I keep it real about them.

[00:20:30]>> Yeah, they're easy to like.

[00:20:31]>> [music] >> Well, he bought he wins and I love his dad. But I got to be honest.

[00:20:34]I watched when Bill said, "Yo, we going to run up there. We going to get out of there because of uh Shakur." Y'all remember that was the video? That's real. You know who the dog is and the alpha all them guys are. When they all talk about who's nice and stuff, they talk differently about Shakur.

[00:20:49]>> Tank never fought him. The guy who eventually stepped up to fight him was Teo.

[00:20:53]>> Yep.

[00:20:53]>> Right. All right.

[00:20:54]>> He He even how they talk about Shakur.

[00:20:55]>> Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:20:56]>> Yeah, but by the way, you can always you can you know >> The hardest guy to beat is always the hardest guy to hit. How do you beat him, right?

[00:21:01]>> And really we're grasping at straws here. All these guys in the top six I think are really very close together.

[00:21:05]>> Yeah. All right, look. Vargas was able to reach Bam. Right? Does that have anyone reconsidering Inoue's chances against Bam? [music] I brought this up. Maliek has brought this up. Inoue, Bam is not a very long fighter. He's compact.

[00:21:21]>> [music] >> And Vargas was able to reach him partly just with the length of his arms, right?

[00:21:25]He's a taller guy.

[00:21:27]>> [music] >> Does that make you think differently cuz Inoue's coming with bazookas?

[00:21:31]>> Right.

[00:21:31]>> Yeah, look, Max, what I will say is A, this was his first fight at 118. He was facing an Olympian. I know Antonio Vargas is clearly not anywhere near [music] the Monster's level. But his first fight good good fighter good you know good technical fighter and he was he was willing to put it on him. He wasn't scared. He was there to win. So that's A. He'll have another fight, you know, before he fights in the Monster. He'll get more acclimated. And I do think that really Bam's youth and how fresh he is kind of neutralizes maybe the the gap in size.

[00:21:58]>> another weight division up, too. It's not just that he's fighting What do you think? Like I I have to admit, I was kind of split on Bam versus the Monster early on. Maybe the Monster's length gives him a little advantage. And then in recent fights I thought Bam's too young and fresh southpaw boxer through the whole thing.

[00:22:16]And after watching Vargas tag Bam, I'm like >> a little bit >> Yeah, right? I'm back kind of 50/50.

[00:22:21]>> did is because I don't trust that earmuffs defense against the Monster. I really really don't. It makes me ask questions because he could probably hear >> hear it cuz you could hear that through the earmuffs. You could hear that sound through the earmuffs.

[00:22:34]>> So Maliek, you're going with the Monster then? So I'm going to go with Bam then if you're going Monster.

[00:22:39]>> [laughter] >> Word to Devin Haney. But real quick >> He just the betting lines just >> I'm going with Bam.

[00:22:48]Going with Bam.

[00:22:49]>> Bro, Bam to me is like Jalen Brunson mixed with Saquon Barkley home.

[00:22:52]>> Okay. Ooh, that's a good one. It finally is.

[00:22:54]>> Yo, he got power with both hands. He can move. That footwork >> And he has a great >> But my but my the Monster footwork ain't like Bam.

[00:23:01]>> No, Bam's is better.

[00:23:02]>> And way better.

[00:23:04]>> Yeah, but he's a little bit more heavy-handed I think.

[00:23:06]>> Yes, I'm scared of that.

[00:23:08]That's why I'm scared of him.

[00:23:09]>> Yeah, but I think he'll fight him differently. I think he'll fight him differently. I think with great fighters like the like Terrance Crawford, I hate to use his experience, he's so great, but like Terrance, he's showed me so many different styles to beat certain different people. You know what I mean?

[00:23:19]I think Bam's in that class. The brother just said this, he said, "Yo, he said he said whatever whatever way he want whatever he wants, I'm going to say yes to it."

[00:23:28]>> LOOK.

[00:23:29]>> THAT'S TERRANCE CRAWFORD. WHAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR IS THAT?

[00:23:31]>> LOOK.

[00:23:31]>> That's great language.

[00:23:32]>> I don't know who wins if you know if and when they fight, I just know it's going to be one of the greatest fights you've seen in a long time. It's going to be non-stop.

[00:23:38]>> But but I like I like your point, Shady.

[00:23:40]Um >> [music] >> I can think of a lot of great fighters who struggled with a certain kind of style. And by struggled, I mean they won decisively, but they were in a competitive fight >> [music] >> because they're fighting a certain level of fighter. If more is asked of a great fighter, usually they give you more.

[00:23:56]Pernell Whitaker, Jorge Páez pieced him up a little bit. I mean, like Pernell won the fight, but Jorge Páez like Freddy Fast Freddy Pendleton gave him a good fight. Pernell knew what he had to do to beat those guys. When he had to fight Julio César Chávez, different level, right?

[00:24:09]>> Yes.

[00:24:10]>> So so and Salvador Sánchez was the same way. Roberto Durán, Lemar Fernando gave him a good fight. What would this guy have done?

[00:24:17]Durán would have fought him better.

[00:24:18]>> But Max, who did Pernell ever beat that he didn't box besides Hurtado, the Cuban? He almost he beat everybody the same way. I think Bam kind of does that, too. He Crawford, I get you on that.

[00:24:28]Crawford kind of switches his game up against different opponents. Bam has beaten everyone the same way.

[00:24:33]>> But but within that style within that style, Pernell would I know Hurtado cuz he had to hunt him down at the end of the fight, but within that style, Pernell could either be more elusive like the first time he fought Ramírez or a little more assertive like the first time like the he fought Haugen or or he could go inside and bang to the body like Pineda, right? Like it depends who it So yes, within the style >> that they can continue to do the same thing over and over and over and over again. You can't buy that.

[00:24:58]>> But but but what can beat that? Right?

[00:25:00]There's nothing that can beat Pernell at his best. You have no style for that.

[00:25:03]>> The monster probably can do that against Pernell.

[00:25:05]>> And I I think one thing is getting lost here, too. One thing that's getting lost, in my opinion, is yes, it's only 3 lbs, but it is a greater percentage of your weight max. Bam's power carried, no problem. Every punch that landed, every punch that landed hurt Vargas.

[00:25:18]>> He got knocked down knocked down three times in his last few fights.

[00:25:20]>> Yes, yes, that's fair.

[00:25:22]I have no doubt that if he lands clean on the monster or anybody at 122, he's going to hurt them.

[00:25:26]>> I always suggest keeping it 90, Malik, because you need to give yourself a little wiggle. Kids, don't keep When you keep it a buck, it's too much. Keep it 90.

[00:25:33]>> Keep it 90. [laughter] >> A little wiggle room.

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[00:30:19]>> Mhm.