Homesteaders who process meat birds often experience significant psychological conflict, as they simultaneously claim emotional connection to their animals while engaging in their systematic killing, revealing the inherent contradiction between claiming to love and honor animals while exploiting and killing them for food.
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Homesteader Shares How She Feels on 'PROCESSING' DAY
Added:You know how I get nose ring theory constantly?
Does she? Nose ring detected, opinion rejected. Let me just see something, okay? Cuz I have a sneaking suspicion. I knew it.
Oh god, could it get worse? Could it get worse?
>> [music] >> We saw the Sonnystead uh in a previous stream and you'll see it in a video that's not out yet. I'm trying to smash out the videos. I just didn't know when I'd next be able to be live, so I was kind of preserving them a little bit. Got a debate to come out as well, I think a couple maybe. Um so, let's see, okay? She's doing a meat bird experiment, okay? And we saw she had a bird in her arms and she was talking about how she was going to take their life from them. So, let's see, processing day-old chicks. So, what she actually means, okay? Let's let's not mince our words here.
Is this is the day she's going to put these animals in a kill cone, hang them upside down, and slit their throats so that she can use their bodies, which was always the plan. So, let's see how she feels, okay?
>> It's processing morning and I wanted to record for you guys raw and unfiltered what this looks like for me.
My heart is extremely heavy and I don't want to do this. I don't want to do this part. And I hear all the time I don't think I could >> You don't want to do it. Nobody's forcing you to do it. In fact, it would be the preference that you don't do it.
>> ever do the dispatching. I don't think I could dispatch an animal that I raised and love.
>> Oh, sorry. Hang on.
>> It's processing morning and I wanted to record for you guys raw and unfiltered what this looks like for me.
My heart is extremely heavy and I don't want to do this. I don't >> Yeah, I don't know like why you're doing it then. If you don't want to do it, it might be your subconscious going like alert alert hello. Don't do this. Don't do this.
>> want to do this part and I hear >> You did this experiment. You said, "Oh, I'm I'm going to do this."
You went out of your way. You have a homestead.
>> here all the time. I don't think I could ever do the dispatching. I don't think I >> Yeah, wait. Hang on a minute. Neil is so right. You know how I get nose ring theory constantly?
Does she? Nose ring detected, opinion rejected. Okay, there we go. I've won the argument, Garrett. I just take I just take these out quickly.
And then look, you no longer have an opinion.
Sorry. Argument debunked.
Wow.
Unbelievable.
I cannot believe It checks out. Nose ring theory checks out every time.
>> dispatch an animal that I raised and loved for 8 weeks.
>> Yeah, and I don't know what that word love means.
I I understand. I don't think it's plausible to have words that don't convey different things, but I feel like they have a kind of collectively understood connotation.
And I don't know on what world you could love an individual and do this to them.
Sadly, the spirit tells you not to do it and then the program mind steps in and overrides the spirit. Yeah, there's there's logic >> [snorts] >> and you know, that subconscious part of you. This there's the logos that's like I can't justify this.
I literally you know, I can't say that this is morally acceptable.
But then you start the language is like, "Oh, I'm dispatching. I'm disconnecting.
I'm coming away." Which is is so funny because homesteaders love to claim how connected they are. We just saw it. "Oh, we're connected to our food." No, you're not.
Because your food was a sentient being, and you looked at them as food that entire time. You completely detached from them. Oh my goodness, Marcos.
>> Gains Green Heart.
>> Thank you so much for your super chat. I really do uh appreciate it. Uh your super chats, your tips, they help me free up more time to stream.
So, thank you to anyone who does it. And thank you to Marcos. That's very generous of you.
And um yeah, I hope you're enjoying the videos I'm putting out at the minute.
Trying to put out loads.
I've been filming loads today. I've got more to film. Thank you.
>> And I'm here to tell you I have a hard time with it, too. And I think that it's supposed to be that way because >> No, I don't think it is supposed to be that way. And let's put it into perspective.
Who's it going to be hardest for?
The person who does the killing, who doesn't even need to, by the way.
Um or the individual who is killed.
They're brought into existence, lived a short life of 8 weeks, and it was always predetermined by you that they were going to have their life taken so you could eat their bodies.
>> Real stamina. I'm dead doing a fraction of what you do.
>> I'm I'm also dead. Yeah, it's it's always the self-victimizing.
And it's like I want to have uh as much patience as I possibly can with people. You know, I have discussions with people back and forth with them being like, even if they're completely dodging my question. I had someone the other day um um they you know, we were having a back and forth and they were just completely I'd ask them a question and they'd answer a completely different question and it was getting kind of annoying.
But you know, I was like I'll just keep at this cuz you know, I I just have a sense and you know what they said, oh you know what, thank you for actually debating me instead of being an [ __ ] Um, thank you for making me more interested in veganism. So it's like I try I try so that this can be achieved.
But when you've got someone here genuinely playing the victim they've killed these animals and they always plan to do it even though it feels wrong, even though if you debated them they wouldn't be able to justify it morally.
I like my patience is just it's in the bin.
Must be the veganism it goes to fights you so true so true.
So true.
I get told I'm pale all the time.
I think I really am. I think I've got you the light's on but I think I've got quite a tan on. You can't see really cuz of the light but I'm quite tanned.
>> As anytime there's a loss of life that's >> Are we we're framing it interestingly so it's supposed to feel this way cuz there's a loss of life. No, you've you've taken life away.
It's not like a loss.
I by technicality it's right but a more accurate representation of what's occurring would be to say that you're taking their lives away from them. See we're we're detaching again the detachment is is is happening right in front of our eyes.
>> It's supposed to be grieved. It's not supposed to be easy. It's not supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be honored.
It's >> Yeah, I don't Yeah, my patience for this is just It's okay to live in delusion but when it entails such horrific rights violations to an individual do you think you as a victim if you were the victim and just to be very clear, I'm not calling for this. I'd be against this.
If you were the victim, would you feel honored if someone brought you into existence with the purpose of using you for their own whim and taking your life away from you? This whole honored thing is just [ __ ] to make you, the oppressor in this situation, feel better. That is all it is. And it further throws the victims under the bus because it romanticizes [ __ ] that ought not to be romanticized. It ought be seen as what it is, morally repugnant.
That is it.
>> It's a sacrifice. That's what this is.
>> Sacrifice implies that they gave something to you.
If a sacrifice isn't, you know, like because people would sacrifice humans against their consent, so it may not be. I would say probably when someone says sacrifice, 70% favorable to they chose or they opted in.
But if not, then yeah, it's not something they signed off on. It's not what they consented to, and that would be bad. It was bad to do human sac- sacrifices. What's the morally significant difference between the human animal and the non-human animal that would make it suddenly good to do animal sacrifices?
Bro.
Yeah, usually the connotation with sacrifice, and some of them even say, "They sacrificed their life for me." is actually something that diabolically they claim.
>> This is a sacrifice, and it's a sacrifice that deserves honor and respect.
>> There's no honor or respect here. These words died in a hole the minute that people who abuse and exploit animals used it. It died in a hole. It doesn't mean anything anymore.
No.
>> and intentionality.
And >> Yeah, these are just [ __ ] words to try and make yourself feel better cuz right now you're expressing that you don't feel very good about it and you're trying to cognitively walk through it and justify it with something other than logic because if you apply the logic, you will have no justification. So, we have to use fluffy uh dreamy words to make it all feel better. It's [ __ ] >> That's what gives me the drive to go ahead and follow through with what I'm doing.
>> That gives you the drive to kill these individuals.
>> I know that my birds had the best life.
>> The 8 weeks that they lived, they had the best life. The copium is off the charts.
>> Especially compared to a store bird.
>> Yeah, compared to this is a false dichotomy because they don't need to be in either situations. If you compare two unethical situations, neither of which actually need to exist, okay? It's It's It's running into something that can't be anything really other than a [ __ ] false dichotomy, okay?
We We don't need to put them in either situation.
We can do I'm literally going to have vegan chicken for dinner tonight.
I'm surprised that Yeah, have fun showing me the data of the specific chicken of which I'm eating that's plant-based that's going to kill me. And if you're really upset by it, hello TV.
Delicious. The best life, 8 weeks. Yeah, we've seen this account at 8 weeks old, she murders them. Oh, the best life, babe.
>> [snorts] >> And they only have one bad day. And the truth is is that if they continue to live on this earth, their purpose was not intended for a long life and they >> Yeah, do you know why? Because they're selectively bred to grow so fast, so people like you can ex- kill them quicker.
It's so that like, oh, you're feeding them for less time, so they are going to be born into bodies that cause them really horrible issues. And obviously, when sanctuary save these animals, unfortunately, these issues, like they live with them, and some of them can be managed, and you go on to live longer lives, but we've bred a problem into them. So, her justification right now is you know, like, well, this is what their intention is for. They wouldn't have fulfilled their purpose if I don't kill them. And you know, they have their bodies. Oh my goodness, Gob, thank you so much for becoming a member. I hate it when they say one bad day. For me, one bad day is being sick in bed. What happens is horrific. Yeah, it's like I I just don't understand why they even think that that's helping them anyway, because, you know, taking someone's life from them without their consent is going to be bad, and it's not going to be a one bad day. not going to justify it in any by any means. Not at all. But yeah, this is just an argument for you not using them. You shouldn't be either contributing to people doing it or doing it yourself. Let me just see something, okay? Cuz I have a sneaking suspicion. I knew it. You bastard.
This is from 3 days ago, okay? So, this the video that we're looking at 6 weeks ago. Okay? So, let's just again see why her argument sucks, okay? Cuz she's making the argument, oh, oh, well, this is their purpose, you know, I I I I'm killing them because, you know, they can't live out the rest of their lives.
But you've gone and got more.
You're carrying on.
>> You know the meat bird experiment, and this is your Ranger debrief. Yesterday, we processed seven Rangers, and >> So, you're just killing more and more and more. you're contributing to them being in existence in the first place, and then you're using an issue that's been bred into them by people like you as an excuse to exploit and kill them.
I knew it. I knew it. I did know Yeah, I did know that.
Yeah, it's just all complete [ __ ] >> You wouldn't continue having the best life. This would >> Oh, so you're the hero. Only you're doing it again and again and again and you will do it again and again and you'll pay for more and you will contribute to this problem that you're using against them to exploit them.
Yeah, make it make sense. Doesn't make sense, does it?
>> was their purpose, but that doesn't mean >> Do you think that if a purpose is assigned to an individual, then it's justified on the basis that it's assigned, whatever it is? Because we're talking about violating their rights completely. We're talking about bringing them into existence, exploiting them, controlling them, then killing them.
Like you don't get too much worse than that, okay? So it's pretty kind of like invasive on their lives, okay?
>> that we don't honor that purpose. And >> You you don't honor the purpose that you assigned them.
Oh my [ __ ] god. It's bad. It's like bottom of the barrel argumentation. It's so bad.
>> So this is how I honor that purpose.
>> No, you don't. This is how you make [ __ ] to feel better about doing a thing that you know to be bad and can justify.
>> I don't beef myself up. I don't get all Mr. Tough guy you know, tough guy, whatever.
>> I mean, it's not tough. It's really weak to control small animals who can't fight back in the way that would save their life. It's It's not tough.
It's anything but tough.
>> Or you want to call it. I allow myself to feel these emotions because sacrifice should be honored and it should be grieved. Loss of life should be grieved.
>> So, that includes killing. Killing should be grieved, not avoided completely.
Like, you've They didn't need to be there and then you knew you were going to kill them and you premeditated that.
You got to avoid that completely. Oh, no, no. I just have to honor I'm so honorable and I'm valuing and appreciating and respecting the sacrifice and the purpose.
>> So, I'm going to take this last hour to allow myself to feel that so that I can move forward with grace and intentionality and to make sure that my work is good and that there's no suffering and that >> I am so sure that the the component that you value in a sentient being can't only be suffering.
Surely you care about their well-being.
Surely you care that an individual ought not be exploited.
>> that this is quick and >> I'm going to allow myself to feel bad because I'm about to murder individuals and I need to feel good so that I can slit their throats quickly.
>> It will get over fast and then my family will be able to eat something that we are so grateful for that we raised.
>> Oh, that must feel really good for the chickens of whom are dead now. Yeah.
>> We we know where it came from.
>> Oh, well, you know where it it came from.
You know where it came from, do you? Oh, so that's good for you.
>> We know where where it came from. We know how it was raised and we know that it was raised with the most love that it possibly could.
>> No.
A strawberry is grown with more love.
The TVP in my my grown with more love, okay?
Growing with love does not uh act in accordance with like murdering individuals, so it really doesn't.
Matter means something else.
Uh Kyle, what do you think that I'm saying incorrectly?
Or do you mean are you responding to something else?
>> be. So, I just wanted to share that with you guys.
I'm not here to tell you that you need to get tough or you need to toughen up and stop being a [ __ ] cuz >> Well, yeah, it wouldn't be the way that you toughen up by predating on small animals who can't fight back, don't know what you're going to do to them, and you know, maybe thought you wouldn't like do such a thing to them.
>> Guess what? I'm a [ __ ] I'm a I got a a big heart for animals, and that's >> So big that you murdered them. Yeah, cool. Got it.
>> exactly why I do this.
>> Exactly why. The the mental gymnastics.
When when is the Olympics going to happen because oh my god, please sign up. Please.
>> It's precious.
>> Oh Jesus, that was cope.
>> [music] [music]
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