This video presents a debate on UK immigration policy, where panelists discuss whether net immigration figures (82% decrease to 171,000) accurately reflect the true impact of migration on British society. The debate highlights that while the numbers show a decrease, the cultural makeup of the country continues to change rapidly, with concerns about the 'best and brightest' leaving and immigration from non-EU countries. The discussion explores the tension between economic arguments for immigration (filling job shortages, boosting GDP) and cultural concerns about national identity, with panelists debating whether the current immigration system is sustainable and what reforms might be necessary.
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>> Thank you very much. The top stories, while temperatures could be higher than the Sey Shells today with highs of 30° expected in the south of England, Britain is also forecast to see its hottest Mayday on record on Monday with temperatures reaching 33 degrees across the south and the Midlands. The UK health security agencies issued Amber Heat health alerts for the Midlands, the east, southeast of England, and London until Wednesday evening with those aged 65 and over at risk. GB News's Tara Goodsell spoke to people in the capital about how they're enjoying the weather.
>> Really enjoy it. I mean, we don't get it very often, do we? So, we got to make the most of it.
>> I won't be out and about too much. I'll be honest with you.
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And then we'll just have to retire to a bar and stay there for the rest of the evening.
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Yeah.
>> In other news, a third dingy is in the English Channel. The boat set off from a beach south of Bologin this afternoon.
It says 162 migrants have arrived into Dover on border force vessels today after they set off on two small dingies this morning. A surge in channel crossings is expected this weekend as a heat wave hits the UK. 400 migrants were recorded making the journey yesterday.
GBN's national reporter Will Godley has more.
>> One set off from France at 8:00 this morning. The other set off from Belgium in the early hours before then arriving in Dunkirk around 6:00 in the morning.
Both boats linked up with border force vessels at the halfway point of the English Channel. Before then, Border Force officers brought them in here for processing. Our provisional figures show there were 162 people on board these two boats. But with this warm weather and calm winds continuing, no doubt people smugglers want to take advantage of the weather. More crossings could continue this bank holiday weekend.
French authorities have suspended the new EU border checks at the port of Dova after delays reached up to five hours.
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It's Saturday night and you're with the Saturday five, ladies and gentlemen, over the next three hours. The biggest debates, the hottest topics, and the most entertaining interviews. Before we get started, Trey, how's your week been?
>> It's been good. It's a bit sunny. Can't complain. Why? It was raining the other day.
>> Just seeing if you're comfortable on on the fence there.
>> Um, I've never had an opinion in my life. Anything.
>> How's your week been?
>> Well, it was great. I mean, we got the ruling following the Supreme Court ruling, so now people definitely know who can't come in my toilets, so I can't complain.
>> Well, I'm sure later on we're going to be talking about some more uh uncomfortable problems when it comes to the treatment of women in this country.
That's something you're not going to want to miss when Renee comes up a bit later on. But first, I'm going to kick off with tonight's first debate, and it is about the net immigration figures that the ONS released earlier this week.
Now on the surface it looks good. 82% decrease in net immigration looks good.
But the way that you can describe this summary is uh is in the way that Matt Gubin and Shabbanammood described the net immigration figures on Twitter yesterday. So Shabban Mammood said net immigration is now at 171,000 down from a high of 944,000 under the Conservatives. This government is restoring order and control to our borders. Matt Gubin, friend of the show, said the UK is now losing its best and brightest, and they are being replaced by goat herders from Afghanistan.
The numbers are going down, but again, this is like saying that you lost 10-0 in a football game and now you're just losing for one. The reality is, as Matt Gubin has alluded to, we are still seeing a very rapid change in the cultural makeup of this country. Even if you have a lower net migration figure, you will have more people at the moment who are leaving this country. And as Matt said, the best and the brightest going to Dubai, going to Sydney, going to Asia. And in exchange, we still have a majority of our immigration mix coming from non European Union countries and still too many that are not the skilled workers that will drive this company this country forward. Unfortunately, whilst this number looks good on the surface, we are still at a place where immigration will continue to drive the debate in this country and you will see more and more change in your cities and in your villages. Kai, what did you make of these figures this week?
I think you're right that you have to look under the surface with these figures because one number doesn't give you much. Matt is wrong that this just shows oh we're losing everybody because there are under the surface some good statistics. I'll tell you some of them if I may. The ban on international students bringing their family members has cut those number of family members by 90%. the drop in work rellated migration for mainly lowerkilled uh visas you know the visas that we gave to care workers for instance is down to 1,400 in the year to March um visa grants there's been all sorts of restrictions this government and the previous government have brought in that are much needed however what's not changed is asylum immigration which is what about 88,000 has not changed very much and what's also not changed and you're right uh And I think one of the articles that you were sending around talks about this integration emergency that is a phrase from the government's own plan. Um that is also a recognition of the fact that the huge numbers are here already and that we need to do something about it. So actually there are lots of good news stories for the government but it's not enough. I agree >> Renee I agree with Kai to the extent that Shabbana Mammud has done better than the conservatives. This is undoubtedly a better result than the Boris wave. At the same time do you see problems lurking under the surface?
Well, it is, but there are lots of reasons why this figure is what it is.
And we mustn't forget that still almost 900,000 people came into this country on whatever be visas or whatever. The real drop has been that they no longer are allowed to bring um dependence. So, students for example have not been bringing dependence and that was a big number. We've also had a big um leaving number of people just because of the timing for how long people are here and when they came. Most of the changes that have happened were because of what the Conservatives did at the end of their their tenure. Too late. I agree. I absolutely agree. But I think we need to just look at the situation where we've got so many people still coming in, so many people still calling for visas because apparently we can't fill our jobs. And this week in my GP practice, I was faced with a very, very eloquent, lovely, happy, bubbly 23 year old who has a first class honors degree and cannot get a job even in McDonald's. So why do we need more people from abroad easier? Chris, so there's still this argument that comes from the left that says, "Well, we need to have skilled immigration to deal with the NHS, to deal with all of those jobs that English people don't want to do." Surely what Rene is saying disproves this argument.
>> Just two quick points. Firstly, you're absolutely right. Shortterm we probably do, but we need a long-term strategy to you for all of those people here in the UK. For instance, we should be offering free uh scholarships for those people who are are going to university in the skills in which we need. If we need doctors, why are they paying fees for university? If we need nurses, that should change every year. If we need engineers so that in the next 10 years, we will have enough British people coming through that can fill those skilled jobs so we're not looking abroad. That's something at least at least at least in the NHS is that there are doctors and nurses ready to go who cannot get a job at the moment. I don't understand it.
>> Absolutely absurd. But secondly, um, one of the most sad things about these figures that we saw was the number of young people who want to be productive who are fleeing the UK. I've seen some figures saying it was up to 120,000, some saying 75,000. Either way, it's a big chunk of the people leaving. And it's the biggest number of young people leaving since these statistics actually began. That is a real shame. It's because they don't see opportunity in this country as a result of the government that we've got. And and Trey, this is the point in that a lot of people look at immigration as an economic issue, but there are many people who will look at their local villages and they will see English men and women or Scottish men and women or Welsh men and women who are leaving and they will see people who are coming from cultures not necessarily compatible with our own and they will go whilst numbers may be going down, the replacement of the people in that community means that England looks very different to what it used to.
>> Yeah. And I I do have sympathy for that.
I'm not one of these people that thinks, oh, it's bad. People shouldn't say that or it's racist. It's a very normal human thing to have. But unfortunately, you've got a lot of and it does come back to the the economics of everything. You've got a country with a very low birth rate. You've got a lot of jobs that does need that do need to be filled. The fact that there was a Boris wave because there was an economic imperative to have it. It's so linked to GDP. What do you do? Either you completely stop people coming from as you call it incompatible countries and look to a lower GDP, a poor environment. There are such things like, you know, do you think there is such thing as incompatible cultures? I don't think that's true.
>> But hang on.
>> I think it might be. Let me just >> immigration increased our GDP >> for a long time. Immigration was a thing that was popping up. There was a really great um article in the Daily Telegraph, the Daily Telegraph. It spoke about how Britain became addicted to immigration.
It does. Migration definitely does prop up the GDP inflation. You got more people coming in, more people spending, more people needing to rent, etc. >> Per capita.
>> Per capita. Yeah. Per capita of GBT was flat. I get it. that was flat but it still it stimulates >> but when it's Can I just say when it does it hang on but when it's overall GDP what happens is then which is what we saw with a lot of the immigration because I you know I was one of these people during the Brexit debate I said look immigration it's added billions to our GDP it's a great thing to someone right who has whose life has not been improved because GDP per capita hasn't gone up what it's mean is their wages hasn't gone up it's meant that the GDP overall has meant that massive corporations ations have benefited the tax take from those have gone up but it's allowed them to suppress wages and means that GB GDP per capita has not gone up so people's lives dayto-day have not improved even though the country itself has got richer those two things can happen strain on services has let me just say something I think of what will say and it's important to have this conversation I think you're talking about demographic changes that's that's the main thing that you think is an issue you said something about people not I mean, your listeners are concerned about >> Yeah, exactly. Democratic changes. But then what's the solution to that if people are not having enough children?
>> But the reason the reason these are real long-term issues, >> but can I also say the reason that people aren't having enough children is because and all roads lead to this is because they cannot afford to have them.
The reason they can't afford to have them, the reason they can't afford to have them is because of the cost mainly of housing. Housing is the biggest political issue I think in this country, one of them. And the reason that housing's so expensive is because we don't have enough houses. You don't solve that problem by saying, "Right, we're going to keep turning to people from abroad."
>> Trey makes a fair point in that there are differing birth rates across different ethnic and religious groups in this country. Muslim families do on average have more uh children than uh Anglo-Saxon or or white uh families in this country. Um Trey makes the point, well, if some people can do it and others can't, maybe it isn't a a a cost of living issue.
>> Do you know what? This is a whole show we could do on this. We have convinced women that being a mother and having children is a too expensive and b um demeaning. Women now have babies, kill themselves, going to work to pay their entire salary to another woman to look after their baby. It's madness. We need to incentivize women to have babies like they do in places like Hungary, in Australia, in France. And we need to actually make it for once now a worthwhile job. But of course, we don't want to lose them.
>> I want to bring Kai in here. Kai, what would you think of a policy similar to Hungary whereby the more kids you have, the less income tax you pay?
>> Yeah, but there's no proof that the Hungarian example ever worked. Um, in fact, the statistics sort of suggests that it's had a neutral at best effect on the birth rate. But no, I mean, I think it's easy to give I think in our politics right now, we want to give bungs to solve an immediate problem that we can see, i.e. women aren't having aren't having kids for all the reasons you suggest, Renee. But then we don't fix the underlying problems that mean everybody regardless of whether they're women or whoever wanting to achieve whatever they want to achieve, do the job they want, lead the life they want to lead, we can't do that if housing isn't fixed, if infrastructure isn't fixed, public services don't work.
>> I'll pause you there for a second because we do have some breaking news coming in. French authorities have rescued more than 70 migrants from the English Channel today after their boat capsized. Multiple rescue boats were launched to the scene near Hardot Beach several miles south of the French port.
Rescue services said five migrants were in immediate danger of drowning and were plucked from the sea in a semi-conscious state. Three of the victims, young Kurdish and Somali migrants were rust rushed to hospital in Bologin just 5 hours after this dramatic rescue. JB News can confirm another migrant dinghy has launched from the very same stretch of beach. This comes as around 200 other migrants crossed into the UK waters on the second day of illegal small boat arrivals. Since Friday, more than 600 channel migrants have crossed illegally into the UK. Kai, I'll go to you very quickly on this. Uh this goes to show that weak border policies aren't just bad for the United Kingdom, they cost lives or they risk lives.
Well, I don't think it's a more complicated issue to I mean that's exactly the reason why for instance we can't repulse boats in the middle of the sea because that actually puts people more at risk of exactly this thing. Um nobody is doubting how risky this crossing is which makes it even more extraordinary that people are willing to go to those lengths. Um but of course we're going to see this as this as the weather improves. However, you know, the the boat crossings are being stopped, are coming down. Um, and the new French deal hopefully is taking some effect. I think it will take a while for us to figure that out.
>> Renee, all all a bit too hard according to Kai.
>> Yeah, I mean, it's all a bit too hard while you let the boats come. The only way to stop this, stop the boats coming.
We're going to have another thousand people this weekend who we're going to have to pay for who are going to go into the system and apply the same pressures.
It's very, very sad that these people are dying in the channel. They are making their choices though and there are people there ready to exploit them.
Unfortunately, stop the boats. Do what Australia did. Turn them back.
>> This footage is from today is what you're seeing. Well, look, it is that wonderful time of the year where parks are a buzz, pubs are overflowing, and unfortunately dingies are racing across the English Channel. Christo, what do you have coming up for us? Well, I'm going to be talking about uh one of the big conversations that's being had among potential Labor leaders and everyone else, council tax, and whether we put it up. Well, I don't think we should. I think we need to bring back the pole tax. That's next.
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>> My mind's in the gutter. Trey told me off.
>> That's notion.
>> I don't know. What is >> I don't know. I was going to ask what is that Australian word?
>> Is that an Australian?
>> Is it like Tim Tam?
>> No. A conipion is a usual word, isn't it?
>> No. Very pedantic for us. That >> conipion tbnews.com/yous say if you have heard the word conipion before please get your comments in or any other unusual >> how' you spell it >> I imagine >> I uh I am terrible with spelling and with math so we will not go there but please get your comments in. Thank you very much for your messages so far. It's time for our next debate. Kristo, what have you got for us?
>> Yes, from pipions to councils. uh because I think that obviously any new prime minister is going to be going after council funding and obviously some sort of property taxes. Now, as you know, Rachel Reeves already going after properties worth over2 million pounds, even though it's going to cost£400 million to implement this extra council tax levy. And it's been reported today that Andy Burnham, if he becomes prime minister, will want to bring in some sort of new land tax to replace council tax. They want to get their sticky little fingers on property wealth. It's true, I believe, that council tax does need to be changed and we do have the highest property taxes overall of any developed nation. So, I think we've got the solution because the size of your property should bear absolutely no relation to what you pay for council services.
Council tax or the tax you pay to the council should be based on the number of people in your home who are over 18 rather than the size of your home which has nothing to do with it. I have five adults who live opposite me. They pay the same council tax between them as me and my partner. That is not fair. So, it is time to bring back a tax for local services which is per person. That was the pole tax. That means everyone pays.
Everyone's got a stake in what happens in their local community. It was called the community church. And maybe it will mean that people are a little bit more careful. They throw around a little bit less rubbish. Everyone's got a little stake in what is going on and it is fair per person, not per property.
>> Kai Rachel Reeves' tax regime has been giving me a conipion for some time, which ladies and gentlemen, I will say is a slang term for sudden explosive fits of rage, hysteria, or a temper tantrum.
>> Somebody bet you that you can't say coniption five times.
>> No, I haven't.
>> Could we have triggered conipions instead later today?
>> Doesn't quite roll off the tongue, does it? Kai, the the issue that we have at the moment is that there is more and more taxes that this government is introducing, which is actually costing more than it is raising in revenue. VAT on private schools, uh stamp duty, which was released on the Telegraph yesterday, which heard that it backfired.
>> What do you think about the idea from Christo here? Do you think this is actually a tax that would work for a change? You know, there's nothing I would love to see more than reform, implement a pole tax because look what happened last time riot in the street because even then politically toxic because everybody recognized that a dustpin man shouldn't pay the same amount of tax as a duke. However, >> doesn't pay the same. However, they don't >> under the pole tax.
>> Let's let's let's talk to actually answer Will's question. You're right.
this Labor government and one of the reasons it's been criticized is all this this sort of pick and mix approach to taxes and trying to tax little bits here, little bits there that actually, as you say, may not be very effective way of improving the tax system because I think where lots of people agree on the left and the right is there needs to be a much bigger reform. Whether or not it's something like a pole tax or whether it's abolition of stamp duty, which lots of people on both sides of the argument quite like, I don't know the answer because I'm not a tax economist.
>> But why tax?
>> I think it should be progressive, not regressive.
>> So council tax surely is to pay for the your local um amenities. Okay. So you could have five working adults working in the same house next door to me. I'm a single woman living in my house and they pay the same as me. How does that work?
That would make look that argument I think makes sense if yes it was simply about you know your your local parks and your tax well it is a huge amount of your council tax cristo goes toward adult social social and healthcare as we know right so why should and that's not based on need or bas you know one individual isn't I mean I'm not using using most of those services so it's basically not it's not really to do with local you know roll it then into, you know, I'm not against actually abolishing council tax and rolling it then into potentially income tax. But if we're going to have a council charge, a charge for local services, including social care, it makes no sense. There is no relation.
Maybe someone could explain to me to the value of your home or the value of your land.
>> I want to be trained because you're heavily involved in the property sector.
What do you make of this?
>> It's funny actually before Christo spoke about I was thinking hell no that's a terrible idea. But the more he talks about it, there is some sense of logic.
There's more people in the house, therefore they're more consuming these services of the local authority. And I think some bits of the whole council tax like Andrew Bernham's talking about for instance, like someone like my parents bought their house for 12,000 quid is now worth about 4 million. It would be quite unfair to tax them a lot more because they don't have the kitchen.
There are a lot of people in the southeast of London who are asset rich poor.
>> Your dad is your dad single or I don't think I don't think you'll be his type.
>> I didn't say I didn't hear anything more after 40 years. But as long as it was done in a very fair way, cuz I think you're right. There was a sense of the poetex of a millionaire paying the same as a normal person, right? It has to be done in a fair way, but it does have merit to it.
>> Can can I can I broaden this out because Rene, there is a conversation here to be had around the fact that we are tumbling down the dark side of the LER curve. The LER curve, ladies and gentlemen, basically means that there is a particular amount of tax that you can actually give to people before they actually start withdrawing from the economy and you get less total revenue overall. The IMF the other day said we are pretty much at maximum taxation in this country.
>> They need to start reducing spending if they want to get the >> econom I mean look you're absolutely right Christo I've lived in my house for 20 years and it has doubled in price but I haven't changed anything I do. I don't use local schools because I pay for my child to go to school. I don't use healthare because I pay for my healthare. So you know that I should actually get a rebate perhaps on those things if I'm not using them. No, that isn't the situation. Why somebody should pay because of the value of their house.
I agree that Westminster, which has the richest houses in it, has a lower council tax, looks unfair, but it's because that council is so wellrun >> and also they ask people in Westminster who are wealthy would they like to donate more and some people do but we can do that, >> can't we? To HMRC and nobody ever does.
But it might actually lead to eventually councils being run more efficiently because everyone would have more of a stake in it. People would be far more angry about the way in which their money is spent. So I think longterm this could be a really good thing. It was very poorly implemented last time and I think a lot of the Labor councils as well decided the way in which they'd implement it was to make those costs incredibly high but the concept was fair. Everyone should have a stake in their community. Can I can I pick up on one thing there? Because one thing I another reform that maybe will be tackled is the fact that in the UK people on lower to middle incomes pay very very little in income tax compared to other neighbors in Europe. And that reduces that link, doesn't it, between what you pay in and what you then have a what you feel you have a stake in. So I wonder whether you know I actually agree with you that I hope that this big broad debate that West Streeting is trying to kick off in the Labour party actually leads to some real big radical thinking because everybody agrees that our tax system is a total mess. I don't think he's wrong to say that paying the people who try to to disguise their income and and then pay it as pay capital gains instead of income tax. I don't I believe that that's raising that level to equalize it for that is moronic because can I just say very quickly capital gains tax receipts have gone down and their resolution is to try and add more capital gains tax capital gains tax has gone down tax do you know the stamp duty the 2 million pound threshold that they're bringing in for these properties as well going up stamp duty receipts have gone down year on year because no one's buying properties anywhere near 2 million pounds now and the government was making a fortune from that.
>> Stamp duty is a voluntary tax because you only you only pay it when you sell your assets. So if they increase the tax on it, people choose not to partake and not sell their assets >> or not buy something off that value.
>> Trey, do you have any confidence regardless of what leader goes into the 2029 election that Labor can actually change in any way this awful taxation system currently in this country? Well, you know, you you may not like what I was going to say, but Shabbana Mammud clearly has been quite successful when it came to immigration. Who knows? Maybe they can actually do something.
>> I think that story is still yet to be written.
>> I think it is possible. I think you're going to need the will of the people in order to do that. And if Andy Bernham comes in and he's popular, maybe. I think we need time. But I think what you said, Will, is crucial. Rather than focusing so much on tax, tax, tax, it needs to be about growth, growth, growth. How are we going to grow? It'll get to the point where no one's going to spend >> at all. It's getting to that Remember when the top priority of this government was go for growth? We haven't heard that court. We have certainly have not. And the reason is the re the way you grow an economy is you reduce regulations and you lower taxation and that is not in the DNA of the Labor Party. Christo, do you have any hope that there will be growth in this economy leading up to 2029?
>> Absolutely not. And I will tell you why that you could stick anyone in that prime minister chair. It's why I argued here a couple of weeks ago. There's no point in getting rid of star because what will get growth and where is where some of you are right not over there um is that of course you have to reduce public spending and you have to incentivize people to be entrepreneurial and to keep more of their own money and and spend it well. Um and you know if that's not going to happen the regressive taxes are meaning that actually people are spending less. If I go back to that 2 million pound threshold when it comes to those houses where you know the the they're going to bring in that that charge. People are not doing refurbishments to their houses at the moment. Builders are suffering because they don't want to own a house that gets anywhere near to that threshold. So therefore that's why people aren't buying kitchens. People aren't doing extensions. So it has a knock on effect.
>> However though, remember I mean even me said about my parents, they're still going to get done by inheritance tax anyway. So at some point you're still going to get tax.
>> Yeah. Well, no matter what's a double tax, triple tax, quadruple tax.
>> How much?
>> Yeah.
>> 1.6 million on that 4 million. So, they're still paying their fair share of tax.
>> But also, I'm going to say this. If if our prime minister is replaced with another one who decides that they're going to make these radical changes where somebody who's currently paying 2,000 could pay 6,000 quid a year. We need an election. This is not what people voted.
>> None of this was in the manifesto. Well, I think that's that's food for thought, but we will uh we'll leave it there for now. Up next, ladies and gentlemen, it is time for your favorite segment, Trigger Tantrums.
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And Ian has with a really interesting and I would suggest counterintuitive suggestion. Christo, I want to get your thoughts on this. Council tax should be relative to the costs incurred. For areas of high crime and vandalism, the tax should be higher than an area that looks after its surroundings and requires less policing. If areas improve, council tax goes down. What do you think of using tax in that way? I quite like that idea because it sort of ties into the state because I I can't help but think that if you are in a house where each person pays, you'll think twice before maybe fly tipping in a way that maybe if you if if there's one person in the house that takes care of it, you don't see that money going out. So maybe it would reduce those sorts of issues in areas.
>> I've never heard that before. I think it's an interesting comment, Ian. Uh really interesting suggestion.
>> I've got an interesting one here from Margaret Phillips. Um, can anyone comment on the flat rate percentage tax?
I don't see why we can't have this. It's fair. It's easy. You'd earn more. You'd pay more.
>> Here, here, here, here. Uh, but I've exhausted my taxation knowledge, ladies and gentlemen. So, much more important than that is triggered tantrums. Sky, what have you got for us?
>> Oh, well, bless her. Reform's newly elected council and Kirk Lee's Sarah Wood had a bit of a struggle in her first council meeting, I believe, this week. Shall we take a look? I don't understand the Constitution. I have not had sufficient time to read that as yet.
I don't understand what standing orders are, what they're made up of, nor do I understand what an amendment is.
>> We were sorry. We were just talking.
>> You are you're on a nationally broadcast television show, aren't you?
>> Yeah. Sorry, I forgot. I forgot. No, look, I've I'm I'm a bit I do feel a bit bad, but it is literally the job that you've been campaigning for for weeks, maybe months in reform's case. It is you've had 16 days now. It's been 16 days since the the local elections. And it's a privilege. It is a privilege and a duty to represent your constituents well. And you ought to know the rules.
You really ought to. Renault, uh, we sometimes forget because of their poll success that reform is still a startup party. They're going to need a huge amount of people across local councils and then eventually within Westminster.
Um, does this suggest that maybe their recruitment strategy isn't as good as it could be?
>> Look, you'd like to think if they were recruiting people for these roles, they would give them a crash course in how to run local government, wouldn't you? And I do kind of agree with you because if you took any new job, you would quickly gem up on the important aspects of it.
So I think yes, you're right. I think it's it's difficult for them because they're having to work at warp speed.
>> This truck I'll go to truck, but you know, I have to admit it's unusual for me to say that. I actually thought it was quite human of her to feel that way.
She probably feels completely overwhelmed. She's new to the job, but there's something I wouldn't expect someone from reform to speak like that.
I think it was something authentic about her saying it. Look, listen, I'm in over my head, but maybe that in itself is a quality where she's willing to make a difference to be that honest. Most people would. And I would be that honest.
>> I should have been that honest.
>> I wouldn't be honest. I would not be honest like that in front of people. I have to admit. I think the ego would make me think just just just pretend that you got it all sorted. I quite like that in many ways.
>> We'll stick you with you, Trey. What have you got for us for a trigger tantrum?
>> Oh, well, speaking of politics, I have got Mr. Robert Genri getting absolutely trolled. Let's take a look. And where are we? Where are we less than 2 years later?
>> You're in a different party.
>> We're here.
>> We We're here. Oh, >> where are we? We're here.
>> You used to be there.
>> We're here.
>> Used to be.
>> You know what? That's actually brilliant. I've actually sat next to Max um um at dinner. That was a couple of months ago. And he's actually is hilarious. But even that surprised me. I thought that was absolutely classic banter. But also Robert Jenry could have handled that better. You need to be able to laugh yourself.
>> Yeah. All I'd have said and now I'm over here and there's a reason. You know, you could have you could have sort of come back with that. But that was that was a great though. Those were two great lines.
>> Well done. That was a good trigger.
>> It made Robert look it made look really bad though cuz he looked stiff. He looked wooden. He looked unprepared. I would have gone in with banter. Perfect example.
>> There's been some really good banter in uh in the parliament recently when uh there was the king's speech was on and the knock on the door came. Who was said not now Andy?
>> Not now. I don't know who said that. But >> of course we used to have a heckle in every king speech didn't we? Wasn't it Dennis Skinner? Yeah.
>> Was it the king's speech where he he would he would always heckle something different? But but there's a really serious point in this. Um and you speak about Jen not being able to sort of roll with the punches and how fun it is to see a bit of banter. We don't see enough of it or we don't see enough real parliamentary performers because these days, especially with my own lot, the Labour Party folks from 2024, they read from notes. They don't they're not naturally as naturally gifted as some of the politicians they had in the >> I was under the impression that you weren't allowed to read from notes when you spoke in parliament but now they do.
>> Well, I think it's right for you. Well, it's a bit like I I've thought about this a lot and it's a bit like this show, right? You don't you we have our notes. I mean, I have my notes here and I read I write them out. But I I hope you agree with me viewers that I don't look down at them all the time. They're just sort of there to remind me and to make sure I don't get buffeted off course.
>> Rene, I think you're being a bit unfair because I really want the Labour Party to read from notes cuz could you imagine how bad they'd be if they're not? I mean, they're this bad reading from something. I mean, they'd be dreadful if they don't.
>> Well, well, you see a in microcosm. You see a little bit of it here with my contributions, Crystal.
>> Yes. And >> that's quite enough. Thank you.
>> I'm What have you got for us coming up after the break? So, I'm just going to talk about various examples this week that have just demonstrated how women really secondass citizens in the UK now and we are not respected or protected at all.
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>> This is this is um the um the the place um called Good Readads who describe themselves as the world's largest site for readers and book recommendations and they're objecting to the fact anti-book language. They're objecting to anti-book language. They don't like the phrase throw the book at him.
>> They say it's antibook.
book anti book >> anti-book and they don't like the phrase uh don't judge a book by its cover. They prefer you to say uh please do admire book covers which are particularly designed works of art deserving of appreciation. These people stupid.
>> Yeah. Well, I mean I think they're just borrowing from the people for the ethical treatment of animals who every so often come up with the story of like don't use anti-animal language like more than one way to skin a cat. This week I think they had a story they wanted a street to not be named Port Pyway in Milton Moy. wanted it to be called Vegan Alternative Way or something. It's just a press release to get in the paper.
>> Is the home of pork pie?
>> Exactly. Who would have vegan alternative way as a as a street name?
Um, but it just gets in the papers, isn't it? So, now we're talking about books. The books aren't offended. Do you know what I mean? Literally, they've got a spine, but most of the people these days don't.
>> They have got a spine. That's true.
Yeah.
>> Positive language, >> honestly. All right, let's go. What What What's your language story, Steve?
>> Lewoke. So French GCSE is now being changed so that you can use genderneutral terms which I think is hilarious given the language is its nouns are split between masculine and feminine and yet now you will be able to use these genderneutral uh pronouns which I can't even manage to pronounce the English ones so there's no hope of me working out these French ones. Um but the French of course are saying no no this is not a thing. So you can no that's how they do you're very good. Um so what's the point in having a GCSE a version of the language that the people who speak that language don't >> speak? Yeah, >> it's just a bit of virtue signal.
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Welcome back to the Saturday 5. Kai has been animated during the break. Kai, why are you so grumpy? Look, tell us some of you out there are saying that we're picking on this reform counselor.
Somebody else called her a dim counselor. Uh council should have a standard training program for all new counselors, whatever party. Well, yes, but come on. Reform is not a startup party anymore. It's been around long enough. It has plenty of crypto cash.
There is no excuse. this stuff, the Constitution, the amendments is exactly how other parties will screw you over if you don't bone up on it. Is your duty some of these uh some of these councils as well, they've almost been around as long as some of the department stores where Lord Ali bought all of the clothes for armor as well. So, we're going to go down we're going to go down the road of corruption. There is plenty. Oh, yes.
Oh, yes. Apples and oranges. Pause there. Too much corruption to get to, but I want to get to Renee.
>> Okay, guys. So, look around. Women have never been more empowered on paper. Yet, in reality, they are treated as low value targets in a system that refuses to protect them. Three teenage boys lured two girls at different times, raped them at knife point, filmed it laughing.
11 rape convictions were given to these boys as they left court. And the judge called them decent boys with low IQs and ADHD. So therefore, he was going to give them a slap on the wrist, a rehabilitation order, send them home.
They did not go to prison. This isn't just one case, guys. 75% of pedophiles do not go to prison. A shocking number of sex offenders get non-custod custodial sentences. Rape. Barely 2% of reported cases end in conviction. Women report it, the system shrugs. Meanwhile, women are forced to fight tooth and now just to keep biological males out of their sports, their changing rooms, their prisons, their refuges, their safety, privacy, and fairness are treated as bigotry. When the state won't punish pre predators and bends over backwards to accommodate the very men who may well prey on them, the message is clear. Women's bodies, women's boundaries, women's pain don't count for much. Society talks about equality whilst delivering our disposable status.
It's time for us to call it out for what it is.
>> Well said, Christa. Your thoughts? I mean, I think that that you're right when it comes to the safety of women, when it comes to convictions, when it comes to the double standard that we have, and I think that there is a real problem. I hate, you know, I hate saying sort of left and right because I I think that there's a bit of that in all of us, but I think that it is the left. you you there are there are two um opposing uh I think uh opposing views that they seem to hold in that one hand we want to allow people that will you know to to to come here who will potentially be a threat to women but we also want to fight for women's rights. Well, you can't always do that. We want to be very very protr but also we want to be very pro- women's rights. Well, there are conflicts of rights within that that get undermined and ignored or get just brushed under the carpet. And unless you listen to women and actually try and have conversations about what's going on, you don't solve problems.
>> K. There's another angle here and I imagine people who are listening or watching at home, there is an elephant in the room. The name Lucy Connelly, I imagine would have been on many people's minds as well as the thousands of people who are arrested for tweets and thought crimes as serious crimes like rape and sexual assault appear to be not treated with the severity that they should be.
Why is that the case?
Um, just to put the record straight a little bit, Will, non-rime hate incidents are like a story from last year at >> I wasn't talking about they've been abolished, right? People going to prison for tweets is not happening anymore.
>> It is. It is more than any other country in the world. And they're not non-rime hate incidents. You go get arrested for non-rime hate incidents. This is under the Public Orders Act.
>> Yeah, right.
>> It's true.
>> But in any case, you know that I've said that Lucy Connley shouldn't have gone to prison. I think it's a nonsense. I think it ought to stop. Um, >> answer the question, why are rapists getting off lightly when we are criminalizing really crimes which should not be as it's shocking that that rape the amount of rapes committed that go to conviction is as low as it is. That is that should shame us all. I told you about these three rapist boys who walked >> these three rapist boys. Look, a criminal look. Do I believe that a criminal judge who spends their whole time sending people to prison? That's literally all their job is a full-time judge, why would they have any compunction about sending kids to a prison without a really good reason to believe that that is not going to be inappropriate?
>> Because they've been told that the prisons are full and not to send people.
>> No, no, no. Because but youth prisons aren't full, Renee. Youth prisons aren't full. But what is what is relevant? Can I just reoffending rate for kids right is 31.8% much higher than for adults and so the question >> I don't believe these boys should be in prison >> they should be punished but the question is whether we believe as a country that >> I want to bring Trey in here Trey there was serious sexual assault here and I think it's being minimized in this conversation.
>> Yeah absolutely. You know you are not going to like what I say but I noticed this right. But one of you said Lucy Colony and everyone said migrants and Renee was doing so well until she mentioned trans. But for me I'm wait let me just say it. The issue is just men is men are violent against women. But to see with the minute you start going off on these tangents we get away from the core point. There should be zero tolerance of violence against women.
No but it should it should be. Why don't you guys just stick on the point? There were guys that violated a girl who were not sentenc to listen to the room.
>> Exactly. Well, let's listen to one at a time. But I just Right. Because you have a problem that exists in a nation, right? That doesn't mean you add to that problem and then say, well, look, it's fine to add to the problem because it's there already. Yes, of course there is an issue with men, but that doesn't then give cart blanch to say, well, actually, because there's an issue with men, that means if you add to that issue by making it more risky for women, that that that means it's okay, cuz it isn't.
>> You don't understand what I'm saying.
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uh they've been coming in thick and fast and I've been incredibly impressed with the uh knowledge around taxation that GV News viewers have. Uh it is uh it has certainly put me to shame after Christo's very very uh passionate argument for a pole tax. Keep getting your comments in. Before we start tearing each other apart for another hour though, ladies and gentlemen, it's your Saturday night news with Tatiana Sanchez.
Thank you very much. The top stories, French authorities rescued more than 70 migrants from the English Channel today after their boat capsized. It's around as around 200 other migrants crossed into UK waters on the second day of illegal small boat arrivals. A major air and sea rescue operation was launched shortly before 1:00 when authorities received reports of a migrant dingy in difficulties near Bologin. Multiple rescue boats were launched to the scene near Hardlock Beach several miles south of the French port. As rescuers arrived, they found around 70 migrants in the water.
French authorities suspended extra EU border checks at Dova today after thousands of holiday makers heading to the port faced long cues in soaring temperatures. The port said they escalated the challenging situation with border authorities and the change would help clear cues at the terminal and congestion on surrounding roads.
Travelers had earlier faced up to two hours delay reaching the port and up to further 2 and 1 half hours to complete processing at the terminal this morning.
Temperatures will continue to soar across the bank holiday weekend following the hottest day of the year so far today. Temperatures reached 30.5 degrees in parts of Kent, beating the previous day's maximum temperature of 28.4 degrees in London. The Met Office said it was very rare for the UK to record temperatures above 30° in May, with the last time being on the 25th of May in 2012. GBN's Tara Goodsell spoke to people in the capital about how they're enjoying the weather. really enjoy it. I mean, we don't get it very often, do we? So, we got to make the most of it.
>> I won't be out and about too much. I I'll be honest with you.
>> I'm not a big lover of the heat.
>> I've got water with me and I've got suntan lotion. So, yeah, I think it's fine.
>> It probably will be too hot later. Yes.
And then we'll just have to retire to a bar and stay there for the rest of the evening.
>> Shows really. I mean, yeah, it's crazy.
It's pretty crazy. I mean, it does get a bit hot. You do not want to get into the tube. Um, but yeah, you do enjoy it. I think past 28 29 degrees it gets a bit unbearable but overall I do enjoy it.
Yeah.
>> In other news, a new report is warning the UK is facing an economic catastrophe unless it adapts to a generation rewired by smartphones. Former Minister Alan Milbour's review to be released next week examines why almost a million 16 to 24 year olds are not in employment, education or training. It's expected to blame smartphones and social media for rising levels of anxiety, depression, and neurodeiversity. Speaking to the Times, he rejected claims that young people are snowflakes and said the country is at risk of writing off a whole generation.
And in sports, Hull have been promoted to the Premier League after beating Middlesborough 1-0il in the Championship playoff final at Wembley. Ollie McBurnernney struck in stoppage time to fire the Tigers back to the top flight after nine years. Mc Bernie's goal meant heartbreak for Middlesbrough, the side who came in from the cold after Southampton were thrown out of the playoffs for spying on them.
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It's Saturday night and you're with the Saturday 5. I'm Will Kingston. I can promise you're in for another lively hour. Before we kick on with our next debate, uh we had to cail what I think was a really important conversation about the place of women in British society in 2026. At the end of the last hour, there has been no one in British media who has been more courageous, more intelligent, and more insightful on sex-based rights as well as women's rights more generally than Renee Honda camp. Renee, I just want to get your final thoughts.
>> That's very kind. I don't think it's true, but it's very kind. I mean, look, I think what shocked me about that conversation is you've got Trey saying that because I mentioned the trans movement, therefore I've politicized it and people switch off. And he doesn't understand how at threat women are feeling from every direction. And then we've got Kai not agreeing that three young boys that raped two girls twice and got 11 convictions should not go to prison. And I have no no acceptance at all that they could have extenuating circumstances. They raped two girls.
They lured them there and they should be punished. If I was the mother of those girls, I can tell you those boys would not be safe.
>> Yeah, I totally agree.
>> Thank you, Renee. Who's up next? It's me. It's me.
>> Take it away, K.
>> Oh, we're going to have fun with this one. Look, 16 days ago, Labour hemorrhaged support in London to the Green Party. So, I thought I would for the benefit of you and all of us take a stroll through the land of hopychangiy milk and honey. Let's look at some of their priorities. Um, lobbying the central government to acts prevent and lobbying government to scrap so-called high stakes formal testing. i.e. exams.
I mean, might this be because most of the Green Counselors are a bunch of radicals with a collective IQ of around 12? I don't know. Um, the Lambeath Greens have a pledge to overturn a ban on speaking about Gaza in the council, restoring lost nightlife venues and tree planting on an quote unprecedented scale. So, next time you go to Brixton, it's going to look a little bit like Showwood Forest. And then in Haringay, your top priority is to stop banking with Barclays. Oh my god, I must have forgotten those baby blue shahed missile drones flying over the Red Sea. In Hackne, the mayor, the new mayor, Zoe Garbbert has already had a meeting with the Palestine Solidarity Group in town hall. Look, my message and indeed my plea to the Greens, wise up. We're a serious country with serious problems.
Okay. Haringate, Lambbeath, Hackne are threearters of a million people who deserve better than this unserious clown show. That's me done.
>> Kai Wilshaw in top four.
>> Outstanding. Christo, what do you make of it?
>> I live in Lambbeath and so I mean and look, I like trees. I don't dislike trees, but the thing is we've just got rid of uh well I said got rid of Greens didn't win Lambeath, but they they are the biggest council there. Um and we've just had a completely lunatic labor council in Lambbeath that are simultaneously handing out parking permits right, left and center because they need the money from the parking permits, but also they're implementing a curbside strategy reducing uh parking by 25%. What are they putting in parking spaces? trees, parklets. Have you heard of a parklet? It's like these benches in a parking space on a main road that cost £40,000 each. So, I'm worried now that this is going to be the same mental policies on steroids.
>> Can allow me to play devil's advocate though, Trey? uh because whilst I don't believe that you know international geopolitical issues should be a matter for local councils obviously the Greens have touched a particular uh sentiment within a large part of the British population. They're doing very very well. They're attracting an increasingly growing segment of the populist left. So whilst I don't agree with them, you can't argue that they are they are they are touching something. They're hitting on something. Do >> you know what's interesting right to me?
Um I went to um a Lib Dema event and I can say this out loud and I think one thing I did notice was the age the average age of people there and I think one thing that you guys are forgetting is that the greens are appealing to young people. I don't think that's >> No, but if you think about it proposal but they're actually in many ways shoring their future up because some of the stuff that you said like even like I think you said bring back live venues. I mean god I was running this city I'll do that in a heartbeat.
There are lots of stuff that they're doing is actually good and if you're a young person, you really would be in favor of that. But if you're a political party that's looking to dominate in the future, you do want to have a very young base because that's going to be fighting with you for a long time.
>> I think really what's attracting the young people is the um free drugs everywhere delegalized. I think that's really very appealing on like this. And then there's the prop palin bit. But there's some other crazy ideas in there that firstly I don't even think council should be involved with. So apparently some of them are going to scrap prevent.
So they're going to scrap the the program that is now I have a lot of bad things to say about prevent but then there's nothing to put in its place to stop young men being radicalized.
They're going to put a barrier between the home office and the local law enforcement so no information can be shared.
>> Who do these people think they are?
>> Renee, can I can I follow up? Because it is more than just drugs and Gaza. There are a lot of very disillusioned young people who can't get on the property ladder, who feel like they are not being paid for for the work they are doing sufficiently, who feel very disillusioned. Like surely that is the appeal of the Greens is they're offering simple solutions to those problems.
>> I do think the drugs and the programs are paid very >> I'm trying to draw I'm trying to draw that humanity.
>> This is why this is why and actually there's a link to the reform counselor and Kirk Lees. You have to be serious, you know. Also, just to add, eight Greens have caused a bi-election in London because they didn't realize that they weren't eligible to be counselors.
I mean, God's sake, it makes a mockery of our politics. It makes a mockery of the we were elected on. And it's easy to say nice things. I would love to stop the war in Gaza if I could. I can't.
Hackne Council can't. The Green Party can't. That's the truth.
>> Great. You say that but I think a lot of people look at K star and a lot of people in Labour and they haven't been serious either. Some of some of the ideas have been Karma is our prime minister. What local council should be focused on is delivering the lowest council tax that they can but the greatest amount of service. So our roads should be filled.
We shouldn't have potholes. Our bins should be made out of Niger. Our schools should have holes should should have places in them. You know that's what they should be doing. Our care homes should be staffed. That's what they should be doing. Not talking about Gaza.
>> Christo, you look pensive.
>> Well, no. What what they have really picked up on and what's I think worrying for the future actually. And it's the the thing that the main parties have a real problem with is you don't create capitalists if you have young people that can't accumulate capital.
>> And that's what the Greens have absolutely uh managed to to to hone in on amongst a couple of other things. Um then their plans aren't by the way going forward we're going to make it easier for those young people to accumulate capital. What they're going to do is say right we're going to take that housing that landlords who do have capital have and we're going to make it social housing. So therefore all those young people will remain green voters because essentially they won't own anything and that will be their future strategy when in actual fact what we should be doing is empowering young people to accumulate capital.
>> Trey the the problem is is that a lot of the time economics is tough. There are winners and losers. There are trade-offs. You know, for example, when we need to pay down debt, that will mean that we will need to take money away from areas and potentially money away from people's pockets. But at the moment, no politicians in this country really are willing to make that argument. How do you make the argument for fiscal responsibility better?
>> Well, first of all, you actually look at what's really going on, isn't it? At the end of the day, you got one side of the political spectrum blaming almost everything on migrants and not looking at the disparity and the growth between those who have and those who don't. I think that's what Green's tapping into.
you're going to have to maybe bring up some radical policies. Like I said before, I was very very very anti um inheritance tax. To my think about it, it's actually not such a bad game because I tell you what, you've got trillions trillions locked in with my parents' generation who locked it in property. Why not release some of that young people?
>> Not necessarily. My parents bought it for 12,000. Did they work necessarily hard for it or did not just gentrify? Do you know?
>> You know, the thing is, and I mean this wholeheartedly, I say this completely seriously. If the Greens were to come into power, they won't, but if they were, I would leave this country that week because it would destroy the country. They are a bunch of nutters.
>> People feel the same way about reform.
It's just one of those things. People generally say that. People say that about Trump half stop for a second.
>> I will note that both reform and the Greens are not here to defend themselves. I think they would deny that they are are nutters in the interest of fairness. And I don't think they are nutters.
>> Christo, that being said, um >> I'm not I'm incredibly >> transparent. Speaking of nutters, what what do you make of >> I think that that that that I mean, look, I I don't think that they're they're they're nutters in as much as I think they know exactly what they're doing. I think they've got nutty policies, but I think that they are arguing for to to these people that don't ever believe they'll get anything.
And actually, it's a really sad indictment of where we are as a society that young people feel so disillusioned that they think the Greens are the answer. The Greens are not the answer at all. They're not the answer for any of us. We'd be bankrupt, but people think they are.
>> K. Do you think that the uh the the the legacy parties are done?
>> No, I as in Labor and the Conservatives.
>> No, I don't. And for for some of these reasons, right, because I think reform has shown an understanding of their weaknesses and a willingness to use the momentum they have to actually try and improve. And you see that in some of the vetting they've done, in some of the trying to get proper policies sorted, and what they've done in some councils.
What really troubles me about the Greens and what makes me angry about all of this is you you've won the the hope of so many young people. As we've talked about, you have a duty to to to to do this properly, to think things through.
If you have a left-wing political economic agenda, follow it through. Do it properly. Don't Yeah, I was about to swear something. Don't mess about with people's people's like really closely held belief that you can change things.
>> Oh, it's interesting because you you seem to be genuinely very passionate, angry about this, and I think I've agreed with with almost everything you've said. Why? Why does this really rile you up so much?
>> Because it's an unseriousness and a dressed up in moral superiority that I think lots of Labor Party I think the Labour Party and lots of Labor people I know are told by the left that they're they're just awful technocrats or that they don't actually have the same values or have worse values. And it's just not true. It's just a reality, a pragmatism that has to come through if you're in politics that the Greens no demonstration.
>> We thought that the Labour Party had a problem with anti-semitism.
>> I think there's a lot on the fringes of the left side of the Labor Party that I think overlap with the Greens. I don't know why he's so animated by the Green.
Well, Ben, I'm not from that tradition.
And I think >> actually, I think that's a really good point because a lot of the public spending that we've got and a lot of the anti-growth and capital anti- capitalist policies that the Greens have, very many people on the backbenches of Labor would be quite happy with those.
>> Not that many.
>> Quite a few otherwise. Why? Okay. Well, let's reduce public spending then. Let's see how that goes down.
>> Ladies and gentlemen, it's taken a couple of years, a lot of coaching, education, training, a lot of patience, but we're finally making inroads with Kai Wilshaw. He's actually starting to sound like he's speaking some sense. Uh, you know, we will see. We will keep this going. It is very, very encouraging. Uh, a Lambeath Green Party spokesman said Lambbeath residents decisively voted for change, giving a party other than Labour the most votes for the first time since 1968. God Green Party spokesperson said, "I apologize if I got that pronunciation wrong. We're thrilled to have so many new green counselors selected here in Haring >> Haring Haring.
>> Yeah, the Australian uh the Australian pronunciation doesn't work particularly well there. As I go on, we do not have overall control of the council and are currently in discussions regarding any future administration. We'll work hard to deliver as much of our manifesto as possible. A spokesman for the Green Party in Hackne said the election made it clear that Hackne residents want change and we are excited to deliver that. The cabinet is in place already meeting with officers and residents every day and working to make this happen. Okay, Trey, what do you have got coming up for us after the break?
>> What I've got coming up after the break is people who attended Unite the Kingdom rally getting very, very, very upset at Wham's Wake Me Up before you go. Details coming up after the break.
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An account called ice cold truth has delivered what I would suggest is ice cold truth. None of the political parties can handle the fact that the job market is slowly but surely shrinking because of tech and automation and that is before we even take mass immigration into account. I think this is a really good point and it is something which we are not talking enough about as a society. As more jobs go it doesn't seem to make sense that we continue to have a policy of mass migration. It will only lead to more job shortages in my opinion.
>> Trey, over to you.
>> I was going to push back on that cuz I think a lot of the jobs >> Oh, please do. they do.
>> I think a lot of the jobs that migrants do probably won't be the ones that will be disappearing. I think it's going to be the ones where people are studying and getting exams for the AI is going to get rid of first.
>> So maybe we should stop migrants and make those people do those jobs.
>> Yeah. All the people that are on benefits, get them off and get them to do the jobs. Yeah. All those needs put them to work.
>> Agreed.
>> Crystal, you're going to add >> um Well, I just think that we're all going to end up in a situation where we'll be hoping we had unions and I never thought that would come out, but >> No, I'll tell you why. Cuz look at look at the underground because of course that's we can't automate that. the one thing we should have been automating because of the union. So that's what will end up happening.
>> I I I Chris I think we'll stop that right now. Trey on you.
>> Kai's gone to the right. Chris what a crazy world we're speaking in.
>> It's an odd night ladies and gentlemen.
Trey over you.
>> Speaking of crazy worlds, I want to talk about theiteiite the kingdom rally. So actually I want to show you guys what I'm talking about. This was a stunt that was led by led by donkeys. So a movement the United Kingdom was all about confronting immigration and karma and all the rest of it. So led by donkeys put up a screen with examples of people whose migrant stories, immigrant heritage and family journeys were woven into modern British success and sections of the crowd almost lost the plot as you can see. Now what does that say about the movement claiming to unite Britain? And who was on that screen you may ask? Well, you can see on that screen and let me tell you, Winston Churchill, a man with American roots. Samo Farah, a refugee and British hero, an Olympian. Dual Leaper, Rita Orura, Freddy Mercury. I mean, who doesn't love Queen Shard Day, British Nigerian just like myself, Lewis Hamilton, Jude Bellingham, all these British icons, champions, artists, athletes shaped by the diverse modern Britain that they claim to speak for.
Even our beloved queen was on that screen. A raw family that carries European heritage from Germany. And the irony, all of this was played to the soundtrack of Wake Me Up before you go by Wham, fronted by George Michael, the son of a Greek criate migrant. I mean, who gets upset at that song? I just don't get I don't understand it. Sure, we can believe in controlled borders, lower immigration. We can demand stronger integration and tougher rules.
Those are all legitimate debates. But if merely, merely showing successful Britain's connected to migrant stories is enough to provoke outrage, maybe this wasn't about uniting the kingdom at all.
And the fact that even reformed leaderships were nowhere near that march tells you something. Because in the end, perhaps the only thing that this rally succeeded in doing was actually uniting people against hate and against bigotry.
Trey, I don't know what was going through the minds of that relatively small part of what was an incredibly big march, but I would suggest if I was in that position, it wasn't that they were rejecting those great people on that screen. It is that they were annoyed that they were being gaslit, that they were being lectured to. Because no one denies that there have been several great immigrants that have contributed to this country. But that's not what this is about. This is about the total volume of people coming. This is about the amount of people don't necessarily share the values. This isn't about the Churchills or or you know uh the amount of really great people. It is a broader debate than that. I imagine that's what made them angry. But Rene am I wrong?
>> No, you're not wrong. I watched that whole clip and they firstly they weren't losing the plot number one. Number two climbed on top of the van.
>> One person climbed on top of the >> Okay. Because the police were there to stop any >> So if I can just finish. Also, they weren't reacting to the pictures of Mo Farah and the Queen and um Jude Bellingham. They were reacting to the words like we are all immigrants.
Immigration is brilliant because it was completely you know just in their face as Will just said gaslighting them because people are unhappy about immigration. And what your lovely little monologue just showed us, Trey, is how out of touch you are with how people are feeling. Because if you truly believe that people think are not thinking, oh my goodness, we've got 10 superstars here who didn't originate from the UK, from the 10 million that have come over the last decade and put all of the pressures on my schools and my NHS and my housing and my benefits and everything else, you are deluded. Right of reply before I go to car.
>> I mean first of all you got a march that what 40 maybe 60,000 people attended. I think that was half maybe even a third of what attended last time. You got some of the biggest people figures on the right. Like I said no one in reform would dare have got on that stage. It almost was a laugh. Wait wait wait. Let me just finish. Let me just finish. You had someone on stage singing completely out of tune. You had another guy going playing the cello with bacon with bacon on him like that's going to scare Muslims off. You had women, French women in burkas saying to a crowd of drunk men, "Take it off. Take it off." And we spoke about the misogyny that exists in this world. Why would you do that? It it turned, this is what it looked like to me. And again, >> it looked like an anti-Islam march. It didn't look like it was trying to unite the kingdom in any way, shape, or form.
If it was, that day wouldn't have trolled them. It wouldn't have been a trolling thing. People would have been like, "Fair play. This what we don't want." Because it was all about we don't want illegal migration. Why would that actually up anyone? Kai wasn't an anti-Muslim march as as Trey has suggested.
>> Look, I of what little I've seen of the march. Um this is what I know. It wasn't violent as lots of people wanted it to be. I think frankly on the left um to validate what they assumed it would be like. Um, I do know that people that I know who had been there sort of felt threatened, but also I think I don't know they they felt they went into the crowd, they bumped into the thing and they felt threatened. However, I don't see anything that >> really would make it feel that way and also I think that people are voicing legitimate concerns. That's what annoys me about this little stunt and I agree with Renee. it it there's a there's obviously a very complicated policy issue here and real anger and to sort of diminish it to if you go back far enough we're all immigrants c I mean come off it and these people I mean it's no surprise that this comes from led by donkeys I mean they've they've crowdfunded how many millions of pounds to achieve what f all >> like they've put videos up on buildings and it's all very middle middle class centrist dad. Oh, isn't that funny? Oh, aren't we taking the Mickey out of the Can I haven't heard from Christ on this.
I want to hear from Krista.
>> I think that that you're part of the problem, Trey. I'm really sorry, but you are because what you've done is you've immediately, and you're not the only one that's done this, but those people on that march, of course there are going to be some wrongands on there. There are always some wrongs on marches. There were wrongs on Black Lives Matter marches. or wrongs on all sorts of marches but the majority of people there right they need to be spoken to and listened to they have well you can't say here here I'm going to explain to you why after you finish but but those people have voted right to bring down immigration su successive elections at successive governments for the last 30 years they are arguing really about maths they're arguing about the fact that in the last 30 years we have had a number of people that have come here that has been more than the history of immigration prior to the last 30 years.
Now, that has a an effect on infrastructure, on public services, on different communities that they say that they don't recognize anymore. And to dismiss it as if to say, well, look, here's a handful of migrants that have been success stories. My dad is a migrant that is a success story. But you can still acknowledge that there are success stories of migration while saying to those people who are marching, you know what, you need to be listened to because otherwise, you know what, I don't think that Tommy Robinson is probably the solution to Britain's problems. However, if you want to shore fire drive people to Tommy Robinson, then then by putting those billboards in there or by dismissing them like that, you're going to >> Before we write a reply, why do you say that about Tommy Robinson? Well, because I think that there have been look, I think that some of what he said has been misqued. I do think that I've heard him defend the seat community massively. I have. And so I think that to come say racist immediately just calling him racist is >> do that one though.
>> Well, I think some of the people that he works with are >> you know anything about him. I I think that that what he I think that the issue with Tommy Robinson and it's almost a class issue is that some of what he has said I think is not nuanced enough for the responsible debate that we need in these times. I do think that there was that time when he um again I think he probably had good intentions but it was so stupid when he was filming outside the court and was done for the contempt of court and he almost put that grooming gang trial in in jeopardy um because the reporting restrictions had come on afterwards. So there are things that I think he has done that don't make him the natural person that is probably going to solve the problems. I think he gets a bad press. But I think if if the concern is that he is being he is the pi piper that people shouldn't be heading towards, I find it moronic that people end up taring up with the same brush.
>> Well, I do want to come back to that very quickly.
>> I want to come back to that. I've said on this show more than once that white working-class people should be listened to when people talk about migration.
They're not racist. I reckon 95% of people on that march are not racist at all. They genuinely want to stop illegal migration. But the problem is though when you've got things like this that have been going around social media, it gives the opposite. There are people who went to that march who said they weren't going to come. I looked at this really really deeply. Went to that march, they're not coming back again because it does look like an anti-Islam march rather than how can we all come together. I I I so sorry but I we have to go but I think that is something where we we all have a particular point of view on that. Up next, Labour's chaos continues as their proposed summer tax plan is facing a major backlash. This is still to come on the People's Channel GB News.
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But over eastern and southern areas of Scotland, managing to see some sunshine break through as well as eastern counties of Northern Ireland. The bulk of the sunshine though really reserved once again for parts of England and Wales. Almost waterall blue skies for some of us though a little bit of fair weather cloud bubbling up in places with all that sunshine around. Remember that UV levels are going to be high. Some very strong sunshine out there. So the potential for sunburning quite quickly.
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We're starting to see the grass pollen emerging. So hay fever sufferers be aware as well. Top temperatures into Sunday likely to be around 31 degrees Celsius in the southeast, but quite widely seeing into the low to mid20s across the board. This area of high pressure that we've got around at the moment is sticking with us into Bank Holiday Monday. We do still have that front across the far northwest, but with the high pressure building in, it should hopefully break that front up as we head into the second half of Monday. So, it will take some time, but eventually the rain will begin to ease here. But really, for many of us, it's a fine and pleasant bank holiday Monday to be getting outside. Though increasingly warm, potentially our hottest ever bank holiday on record with temperatures only just slowly decreasing as we head into next week. Bye-bye.
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The comments are coming in thick and fast and it's a bizarre odd theme that is uh coming across in the comments and that is support for Kai. Uh Claire, well said Kai Jr. and I believe this is actually a compliment. Is Kai okay? Uh look again as I said Kai's on fire tonight. He's he's coming around. Uh maybe in a couple of more years we will get him all the way there. But certainly signs of progress. Uh Susanna has said on a different note around the last conversation we had, it wasn't just white people at the Unite the Kingdom rally. They were people from every ethnicity. We all want our country back.
Well said, Susanna. We're going to go now, ladies and gentlemen, to our first interview of the evening. The Labour Party chaos continues as their proposed summer tax plan is facing major backlash. The plan includes charging families who visit some of the nation's most loved tourist spots up to £300 in a holiday tax. Already local leaders across the country are planning to take advantage of the new powers threatening to add hundreds of costs to uh family getaways. To discuss this, I am delighted to welcome former Labour staffer and chief executive of the Northern Powerhouse Partnership, Henry Mir. Henry, lovely to have you on the show. Can you bring us up to speed with what is going on in the Labor Party at the moment? Obviously, they are distracted by uh leadership speculation uh and they've come out with a cost of living package uh for summer for many people at the same time which has been met with mixed reviews to put it mildly.
>> So, the the the tax you're mentioning won't actually be in place for this summer. it doesn't it isn't affected by some of the current issues uh that are affecting people's cost of living and essentially the basic proposal is that we mirror other countries in Europe and allow local areas to charge a tourism levy not force anyone to do it in fact some may have already ruled out and said they don't want to do it but in in France for example just on Airbnbs Airbnb collect over€200 million euros that's what they collected last year to hand back to hardpressed local governments to pay for the services that tourists use. And bluntly, I'm going to Italy on Monday. I've already paid my tourism tax to the local Italian commune. Why should it be that when people from Europe and other parts of the world come to the UK, we don't ask them to make a contribution when the vast majority of British people who are going abroad on holiday will already be paying something like this, but yet people from other parts of the world and other parts of Europe coming to this country don't get asked to pay anything at all. It's just not fair and it's not proportionate that British people in places like the Lake District have to subsidize the costs of looking after tourists, which I mean they do cost more in collecting rubbish and emptying the bins. All those things add up and it isn't fair that local people in those tourism hotspots have to pay all the costs for having tourists in their area.
Well, I think a lot of people wouldn't look at it as a matter of fairness or as a matter of principle, as a pragmatic decision that if you increase taxes on tourists, less tourists are going to come and therefore you're going to decrease the total tourist industry in this country. How do you do you think there is a possibility that this could actually uh disincentivize people from coming?
>> I mean, I think the current tax in Manchester, I think, is set at one pound a night. So, I think what you're really having a debate about is how much can you charge before you start putting people off? And like any good tax, clearly if you benefit from people still coming to the UK and visiting, then the sum of money involved needs to be proportionate. And that's why I personally favor a a a tax which is a percentage of what people pay rather than a fixed amount. Because then if you're spending, do you mean £30 on a hotel room or a or a or a a cheap sort of uh place to stay, a youth hostel or something, you might pay a very small amount of money. But if you're choosing to stay in a,000 pound a night hotel room in uh the center of one of our large cities in a luxury hotel, maybe you'd be prepared to pay a bit more. So I'm I personally would prefer to do it that way to avoid the problem you you you pose. And I think on the wider issues, clearly uh this is largely about international visitors. So in terms of a level playing field at the moment, British destinations like the Lake District are woefully underresourced, which means that the Lake District National Park has almost no money to spend. The public transport to get tourists around isn't good enough. And on a hot summer's day like today, I can guarantee you there have been traffic jams ruining some of the best natural environments in the world. if we had asked tourists to pay uh something whether it's through a congestion charge or an overnight levy. In fact, local businesses in the Lake District actually support the idea of a Sadiq Khan style congestion charge to to charge tourists because they're so sick of all the cars and the day trippers ruining it for everyone and and people could and should use public transport if that money was reinvested in public transport. So even tourism businesses do favor in some parts of the north doing this and that's why we're engaging seriously with with local leaders to make sure we get this right.
>> Can I can I move us to another part of this package which is uh free bus trips for kitties throughout uh the month of what is it? August.
>> August.
>> August. Um you know as well as I do the country's fiscal position is perilous.
We are paying a huge amount on uh debt interest. Is this really where we should be spending money at the moment?
So this actually is a local idea that was first tried in other parts of the country and in fact in the northeast of England it started off as free metro travel for kids. Um and of course if you're using the bus with a child and you're an adult obviously if you're not old enough to have a a travel card a concessionary pass you will be paying something. So there is an element of if you encourage families to use the bus rather than driving, obviously it saves them money on fuel because it's less expensive than getting in their car, but also means you do fill seats that might otherwise be empty because less people are going are not going less people are going to work because people are on holiday. So I think it's it's another one of those examples where I don't I don't take a principal position on whether we should or shouldn't give bus travel away for free. I think if if we're looking for ways to help families in particular, then taking off costs that are paid by particularly families.
This is an example of that. But it also is a way of using up spare capacity on the bus network and driving up patronage because we know that actually often even if you own a car, it's cheaper to use.
>> Just running just running a touch of of time and I want to bring in Renee. I apologize.
>> Hi. Um, I think this is really interesting because we're talking about the free bus passes and we're also talking about um, cutting VAT from 20 to 5% on theme parks and you mentioned families that are hard up and I would argue that families that are hard up are struggling to put food on their table and pay their heating bills and the last thing on their mind is whether or not they can afford to take their kids to Alton Towers in the summer because VAT has been cut. This is taxpayers money.
It isn't free. Is the government not just demonstrating its complete economic illiteracy?
>> I mean, I think there are lots of families even on low incomes who want to treat their kids during the summer holidays. And obviously, this is also the Labor government uh that has uh removed the two child limit and so is is going to be putting more money into the pockets of some of the the most deprived households in the country and lifting hundreds of thousands of children out of poverty. So, I think you have to look at what the government's doing in the round. Uh I mean I'm not uh here to to shill for the government anymore. I work a lot with lots of people from from political backgrounds and none in my current job. And my my reflection would be that I think the government had a clear intent this week to find some ways to help address the costs of the summer holidays. And in the past, remember, we've also seen the government, including the previous government, pay for during COVID and in the immediate aftermath, school lunch equivalent funding for lunches during the holidays.
So, the idea of putting extra money into the pockets of families during the summer is not a new idea. In fact, the Conservatives did it as well.
>> Thank you, Henry. That's all the time we have for, but we really appreciate you joining the show tonight. That is Henry Mirror, the chief executive of the Northern Powerhouse Partnership. Up next, it is time for Trigger Tantrums.
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We're here at Lucky Hedgehog Rescue in Grimston in East Yorkshire for Hedgehog Awareness Week this week and we're joined now by the founder Lucy of the charity. Lucy, hello. You're just about to take Ben out here. You've got 43 sick and injured hedgehogs here at the moment. Just tell us what's wrong with Ben. Ben had a broken leg and it was a nasty fracture and our lovely vets at Barton uh veterary center in the Humber um have amputated the leg. It's a hind leg and he's thriving really really well, but we have to take them case by case. Um but I'm just going to check on him again and weigh him while you're here. Uh so we don't unnecessarily disturb him. But this is what we have to do every day anyway. So saved him for you.
>> Thank you. So, I'll just let you take Ben out now. Um, you've been going for 13 years now. This is sort of part of your home is the hedgehog rescue. Slowly and slowly you've been expanding to look after one of the the nation's favorite or beautiful Ben there, the hedgehog.
Obviously, this week is all about raising awareness for hedgehogs. What are tips that people can can follow to look after hedgehogs that they may see in their gardens and around?
>> Um, well, the the main injuries we get in are caused by dog attacks and stmers.
Um, we've lost thousands to them. So, if people can be aware of their dogs at night or at dusk, keep them on a lead or be with them in the garden so that they don't attack hedgehogs. Um, strimmers, learn to use them properly.
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Welcome back to the Saturday 5, ladies and gentlemen. Some breaking news for you. As reported in the Times, disgraced TV news reader Hugh Edwards is understood to be in talks with Channel 4 over making a program to state his case.
In 2022, the former BBC presenter admitted presenting possessing, I should say, 41 indecent images of children, including seven classed as the most serious category A abuse. Two of the most uh two of the images were of victims aged 7 to 9 years old. He was given a six-month sentence suspended for 2 years. This comes after following allegations of rape made by contestants in Channel 4's Married at First Sight UK. More to come on that later. We're going to uh move now to more triggered tantrums and I'm going to take it away.
This is a retro triggered tantrum. It is about a year or two old, but it's been back in the social media conversation this week given what we are talking about with respect to immigration figures. Let's have a look whether or not lefties would actually accept uh immigrants in their own homes.
>> Black said refu refugees welcome here. I just wondering if you'd like to go down on the list saying you're willing to take the refugees into your home.
>> Of course. Uh only problem is I rent.
>> You rent?
>> Yeah.
>> May be an issue.
>> Yeah. Because they've got well they put nine bedrooms in a fourbedroom house. So we're pretty much to actually adopt a refugee and take them into your home.
>> Well, if I had any space, I would wouldn't be a nice place to bring them cuz it's a bit overcrowded. But yes, if I had the space, definitely.
>> Thank you very much for that, love.
>> It's a bit different when it's closer to home, isn't it? Uh, it's very, very easy when you're putting them in plush hotels, but when it's your spare bedroom, they change their tune pretty quickly. Who we got next for Trigger Tantrums? We got Christo.
>> Uh, yes. Now, if you're an electric car driver, >> I think you are.
>> I'm a hybrid. I'm a hybrid car driver.
That's why she's wearing green. Uh, but if you're an electric car driver, of course, you're probably happier and more kind because you're doing wonderful things for the environment. Well, uh, check out what happened in China when an electric car driver was angry because other electric cars were still charging and hadn't unplugged.
Because that of course is the stupidity.
If you've got an electric car in a parking space, once it's stopped charging, you got to go back down, take it out, move the car.
>> But the stupidity of the man is that they can't drive their car away now cuz he smashed their windscreen.
>> Oh, yeah.
Lefties think about second order consequences to >> What was the word that you used earlier?
>> Uh conion. Yeah, that's that is a connection right there. That is a connection. Uh this is of course after earlier maybe last year a lot of people were going after Teslas because of their political opposition to Elon Musk. So this isn't a well this may be a different context but not a new thing.
>> Yeah, that's so true as well honestly.
Yeah. imagine how stupid you'd have to be to to to destroy a Tesla because you're annoyed about Elon Musk. Someone who does absolutely nothing to do with Elon Mus. remember one of those celebrities who filmed herself just cheering as they towed her car away cuz she'd sold it.
>> I I can't get my head into the leftist mind. That's why we've got Kai Wilshaw.
Kai, what have you got for us?
>> Ta.
>> What?
>> It's me.
>> That would have been such a good segway as well. That's really annoying.
>> You drive to high. We have got the leftist mind.
>> Rene, what have you got for us?
>> It's cheap and it's economical.
>> Oh, Richard has so I just want to play again. And I'm sure you've all seen it, but I just think it warrants playing again. Rachel Reeves is being heckled.
And I hope we play all the way to the end with that laugh.
Rachel, we're going to get arrested.
>> I love our I love our I love our country. I love our country.
>> I love I love I love our country. And one of the things about our country is good manners.
>> Not very British. Right. Very good.
>> Great.
>> Put that on the telly. Right.
>> That love that love at the end. I love our country. I know.
>> Uh Chris, I may be getting soft in my my old age, but I actually wasn't a big fan of this and I haven't been a big fan of how reform have responded to it either.
I think if you're going to heckle a politician, which I think is fine, it needs to be funny. That wasn't funny. It wasn't.
>> I think I was fine with it until the person swore. And that's what I think is is not I think it's actually fine to heckle a politician. It's absolutely fine. I think don't swear at a politician. That's where I think that you you you maybe undermine yourself a bit though. I do love Look at the fear in her eyes. Oh my word. I might have to interact with a member of the public because I've only ever worked in an environment where I've either been in the Labour party like all of them actually had to interact with the public ever.
>> You know, what can you really do in that situation? How do you handle that if you read your >> Oh, you're not going to do it like in Prescott that we discussed last.
>> But you know, I find that this might sound a bit sexist. I think it's even worse coming from a man. That kind of language, that kind of aggression and swearing at a woman. It doesn't matter how bad you might think she is as a politician. It's just slightly worse. I think it's a bit a bit pathetic as far as I'm concerned. But heckling not a bad thing. I think keeps them on their toes.
>> By the way, how do you handle that?
Nigel Farage. Boring. Boring.
>> I remember that stood up and said, "Oh, get a haircut." It was a far heckling him back.
He's very good at that.
It just shows how charismatic he is compared to a lot of the other I often quote that the Nel Farage.
>> Boring. Boring.
>> We won't we won't clip that up. We have comments coming through. Ryan Noon on Twitter says, "Your mentoring and persistent browbeating is paying dividends with Kai on the Saturday 5.
He's starting to make sense." Well done.
Bravo, Will. Will I do my best, ladies and gentlemen. Uh we are getting there with him. I think as I said in a couple of years he will be voting reform and he will be totally a functional normal human being.
>> Trey I do think Trey is a hopeless case.
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>> Hello there. Good evening. This is your latest GB News weather update provided by the Met Office. Hope you've had a lovely start to this bank holiday weekend. Many of us will continue to see a fine one as we head into Sunday and overnight as well. They'll be relatively fine and clear, particularly for areas of England and Wales. We might see some mist and fog patches forming, maybe even a little sea fog still lingering around the far southwest, but it should really readily clear first thing on Sunday morning. Temperatures in rural areas may just dip down into single figures. So, a little fresh and chilly for some of us, but most of our urban cities and towns will hold up in double digits as we kick off Sunday morning. Throughout tonight and into tomorrow though, we do still have this cloud lingering across the far northwest. And this will continue to bring outbreaks of rain, particularly for the Highlands, also around the outer heeds and eventually over towards Orne.
But over eastern and southern areas of Scotland, managing to see some sunshine break through as well as eastern counties of Northern Ireland. The bulk of the sunshine though really reserved once again for parts of England and Wales. Almost waterall blue skies for some of us though a little bit of fair weather cloud bubbling up in places with all that sunshine around. Remember that UV levels are going to be high. Some very strong sunshine out there. So the potential for sunburning quite quickly, but pollen levels are also increasing.
We're starting to see the grass pollen emerging. So hay fever sufferers be aware as well. Top temperatures into Sunday likely to be around 31 degrees Celsius in the southeast, but quite widely seeing into the low to mid20s across the board. This area of high pressure that we've got around at the moment is sticking with us into bank holiday Monday. We do still have that front across the far northwest, but with the high pressure building in, it should hopefully break that front up as we head into the second half of Monday. So, it will take some time, but eventually the rain will begin to ease here. But really, for many of us, it's a fine and pleasant bank holiday Monday to be getting outside. Though increasingly warm, potentially our hottest ever bank holiday on record with temperatures only just slowly decreasing as we head into next week. Bye-bye.
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It's the Saturday 5. I'm Will Kingston along with Dr. Renee Honda Camp, Trey Lo, Christo Fufas and Kai Wilshaw.
Tonight on the show in your final hour of the Sunday scrub is coming up. Should we head politicians? Hunter Kzak, the last person to speak to Charlie Kirk before his death, is now being blamed by some people for what happened.
>> Be prepared by the doomsayers saying we're all going to die because the UK 33° C, the hottest Mayweather on record.
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>> Great news, but not as good as Arsenal crowned premiership champions.
>> Who?
>> And we have more tantrums, more high fives. all marry him very soon.
>> Oh, he's making a strong case for MVP tonight. Kai Wilshaw. It's 8:00 p.m. and this is the Saturday 5 Extra.
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Thank you very much and good evening.
The top stories breaking news this hour.
Channel 4 is understood to have held talks with Hugh Edwards about making a television program in which the disgraced newsreader will try to state his case. The publicly owned broadcaster under fire over allegations of rape made by contestants on its hit series Married at First Sight UK is risking fresh controversy by working with the former presenter who is a convicted sex offender. One of its employees described the idea as a desperate publicity stunt.
In 2022, Edwards announced Queen Elizabeth's death on the BBC. Two years later, he admitted possessing 41 indecent images of children, including seven classed as the most serious category, a abuse. Two of the images were of victims aged 7 to n years old.
Edwards was given a six-month sentence suspended for two years.
Elsewhere, French authorities rescued more than 70 migrants from the English Channel today after their boat capsized.
It says around 200 other migrants crossed into UK waters on the second day of illegal small boat arrivals. A major air and sea rescue operation was launched shortly before 1:00 this afternoon when authorities received reports of a migrant dingy and difficulties near Bologin. Multiple rescue boats were launched to the scene several miles south of the French port.
As rescuers arrived, they found around 70 migrants in the water.
French authorities suspended extra EU border checks at Dova today after thousands of holiday makers heading to the port faced long cues in soaring temperatures. The port said they escalated the challenging situation with border authorities and the change would help clear cues at the terminal and congestion on surrounding roads.
Travelers had there had earlier faced up to two hours delay reaching the port and also up to a further two and a half hours to complete processing at the terminal this morning.
Meanwhile, temperatures will continue to soar across the bank holiday weekend following the hottest day of the year so far today. Temperatures reached 30.5° in parts of Kent, beating the previous day's maximum temperature of 28.4° in London. The Met Office said it was very rare for the UK to record temperatures above 30 in May with the last time being on the 25th of May in 2012. GB News's Tara Goods spoke to people in the capital today about how they were enjoying the weather.
>> Really enjoy it. I mean, we don't get it very often, do we? So, we've got to make the most of it.
>> I won't be out and about too much. I I'll be honest with you.
>> I'm not a big lover of the heat.
>> I've got water with me and I've got suntan lotion still here. I think it's fine.
>> It probably will be too hot later. Yes.
And then we'll just have to retire to a bar and stay there for the rest of the evening.
>> Shows really. I mean, yeah, it's crazy.
It's pretty crazy. I mean, it does get a bit hot. You do not want to get into the tube. Um, but yeah, you do enjoy it. I think past 28 29° it gets a bit unbearable, but overall, I do enjoy it.
Yeah.
>> And in sports, Hull had been promoted to the Premier League after beating Middlesborough 1-0il in the Championship playoff final at Wembley. Ollie McBurnernney struck in stoppage time to fire the Tigers back to the top flight after nine years. Mc Bernie's goal meant heartbreak for Middlesbrough side who came in from the cold after Southampton were thrown out of the playoffs for spying on them.
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Rachel Reeves was heckled while peing speaking I should say to the media outside a petrol station earlier this week. Let's take another look at that moment here. Rachel, we're going to get arrested.
You're ruing the country. Get us down or else >> I love our I love our I love our country. I love our country.
>> You look like you love the country. I love I love I love our country and one of the things about our country is good manners.
>> Now, of course, politicians are in the public eye, but should we be heckling politicians in that manner? Seconds out, it's round one and we're going to kick it off with Trey and Kai. Trey, take it away.
>> Right, let me take it away and let me just quickly put out this disclaimer.
Under no circumstances do I think heckling should be anything where people are being overly abusive or threatening in any way, shape or form. However, heckling is one of the few ways that ordinary people can voice their frustrations at politicians who are often so cocooned from ordinary people.
They're so far away. They don't really spend time to speak to people whatsoever. How else can you actually make your voice heard if you can't heckle? Just like we saw there with Rachel Ra guy presumably driving by or walking by. He's not going to get to see it. He's not going to be in the corridors of power at Westminster, but he's seen a politician who he doesn't like and he's let her know about it. And we've seen heckling on some of the most important issues of our time and in recent history. We saw with the pole tax, we saw it with um in South Africa.
We saw it with all sorts of different issues. Certainly Tony Blair had his fair share and rightly so over the Iraq war and numerous stuff. Everyone remembers the famous time when he was at the woman's institute and he got heckled to the point he could barely even speak.
And I think that's actually very very very healthy for modern democracy. It's a brilliant thing. As long as it doesn't go overboard, it's excellent. The other thing is this. How bored are we of politicians who all sound the same with no personality, sound like robots, not in touch? I quite like to hear a politician who can deal with the heckler, you know, who can come back at it, got a bit of banter, they've got something to say, you know that they mean it politically. They're not just repeating sound bites. they've been told to by their overseers. But I think heckling is a good thing.
>> No. Uh, look, Trey, >> guys, lost for words. D.
>> No, I was just pausing for thought to compose myself because look, you had this little caveat about, oh, I don't condone threatening language, you know, threatening behavior. But that is exactly what this leads to. And this is why, right?
People are angry. I totally understand that I'm angry about some things. Um and and I like politicians who can give it back. I agree who can show some personality.
But I think when we begin to cross that line and shout at people, shout abuse uh just because of the position they're in.
Number one, the reasons that you mentioned, you know, having a healthy debate are not the intention there. If you're shouting abuse at somebody, you are not intending to have a healthy debate. There is no way that that heckle can transform into some uh goodnatured discussion about this issue or that. It is simply an opportunity to dehumanize that politician and try to make them seem like that to show your anger in a way that makes them uncomfortable basically and invade often people's personal spaces. Now, yes, challenging and questioning politicians in public can be important. But the fact is if the more you normalize that kind of heckling, the kind that we just saw, the more instances you're going to have of politicians who actually put themselves by put by putting themselves in public are simply at risk of higher danger. All MPs now have alarms and every MP I've talked to has had to use that alarm because why? because we've had MPs who by being in public and by being a public figure have been killed simply for trying to do their civic duty.
>> I'm going to open it up to the panel a bit earlier because I saw a particularly amusing facial expression from Christo Fufas. Christo, what do you make of it?
>> When you said like dehumanizes them, what a load of old nonsense, right?
That's exactly what it does. Let Christo speak because he's going to speak to scent. Go for it.
>> Thank you. Um God, I never thought I'd hear that from you. uh but uh I think that that there is an almost an etiquette around heckling and there should be an etiquette around heckling.
So for instance, she was on a publicity drive. She was in front of the cameras.
She was surrounded by people. So firstly, that means she's safe. But secondly, she wasn't on her own. She wasn't like on a train or something like that. If he if he encountered her in a public situation on her own, I think it would be wrong to start shouting at her.
However, when she's in that situation, surrounded by cameras, surrounded by staff, absolutely, you can heckle her in that situation. That doesn't dehumanize her. That's nonsense.
>> No, it does.
>> Wait, wait. You know what I think needs to happen? Will, you need to go over and get whatever plaudes you just given to him. You've got to take it back. He just showed himself to be this super wet, drippy lefty.
>> She could have been.
>> Sorry, I won't take that from you. What a croc of No, no, no, no, no. These are politicians who are always using the public and taking people for granted.
Oh, let's paint this absolutely perfect image of what we're doing for the country. This is an ordinary person who's fed up who can't pay his bills.
He's sick of the direction of the country. He's not going to get to speak to a politician and he's speaking like Chris.
>> Sorry. I >> She was perfectly safe. Like I say, I don't condone any threatening behavior.
But you self saw she laughed at the end.
She gave as good as she got. It made her more human. I quite like that.
soft wet thing that you've just >> Can I just be Can I just be very clear, Trey? People can engage with politics and their local MP if they want to.
Politicians are actually, I find, incredibly accessible to local surgeries.
>> Yes, exactly. They spend all their time in their constituency. The idea that you have to be driven to heckle to express your view, which by the way isn't even it's just an expression of anger rather than a healthy Now you're being patronizing to this man. It was an expression of anger. It was an expression of frustration. And lots of the country feel that way. That's what it was. Anger. He didn't come over and threaten.
>> Stop. Stop for a second. As much as I love seeing, >> as much as I love seeing the lefties cannibalize each other, let's go to Rene.
>> So, all I'm going to say on this is a I this is something guys you will not hear often. I completely agree with Trade.
>> Go on. Oh, is that it?
>> That's it. There you go. I mean, Kai got absolutely knew that there was trouble with that hybrid. Straight straight. I know you're new. I know you're new to the format of Saturday scraps because you often don't want to involve yourself in it. But the idea is that you have to present an argument that you might not always agree with. I try my best to stop.
>> You know you've lost when you get personal.
>> Oh, stop for a second, kids. So, there's another angle on this and it's not just the heckling itself. It is the response from reform. So from my recollection on social media there you have said something along the lines of give this man a puridge far said something along the lines of I'll buy this bloke a pint.
Yeah. Um what do you feel about that response from reform?
>> I think that again um because Farage has been very very vocal about his concerns over his safety and I think that that I'd like some clarification from Farage because again he doesn't get phased by heckling you know at all when people have shouted at Farage in conference and stuff. shouted back so popular now that is that is the line.
>> Yeah. But Christo can you see the argument that that looks like hypocrisy from Farage when he's being very very vocal about his own?
>> I can completely see the argument about um it being hypocritical from Farage. Um however I don't think it quite crossed the line into what Farage has has experienced himself. But you're right, they need to be careful that they're they're on the line of >> Can I add something though, Kristo? When you sort of normalize one thing, it becomes easier for others to take advantage who don't know that line.
>> There's a difference and there is there is between saying something to someone in a robust way when they're in front of cameras and throwing a milkshake at them. And I don't normalizes the other.
I I well I think that you you you get much closer to the to to having examples like the throwing stuff actual violence when it becomes acceptable to shout swear words at people because they're been elected by the constituents.
>> So Mike Flynn is making the point that Farage and the rest of the reform MPs get worse heckling when they try and stand up and make a comment in the comments and sometimes they do.
>> That's we just thought of Robert Genri, didn't we? Well, that is a really interesting point because the behavior of politicians in the commons is a disgrace. They act like, you know, snotty little teenagers. Uh do you think actually uh Trey that there is some sort of a connection between the way that they conduct themselves and in some way normalizing basically people behaving badly towards them in public?
>> No, because like I just said, I just spoke about some historical thing. I mean, the suffragettes were always heckling people. I don't get it might not be the best example because I know there were elements. I mean, Dr. Rene, you'll correct me. elements of suffragette jets that went a bit far with Lord joy and bombs. I get that right. Problem with but it goes back a long problem with the suffragettes as an example of anything is they had no other way. They didn't have the vote.
>> So it goes back to what I said some people don't have the other way. So the answer to that is no because it's only recently we've seen what goes on really.
I don't think that guy driving past thought oh well I saw it on television in parliament so I'm going to do the same. I just felt it was frustrated and you don't get to see someone like that.
The minute you see him, it's just this natural thing. But I don't think I would never support real threats against anybody in any way circumstance. But imagine you saw somebody and you felt that they were in some way responsible for the way your life is. You would s you would give them your two pets worth.
There's nothing wrong with that. It's a healthy functioning democracy.
>> And how often I mean Trey, I'm just going to pick you up. Not Trey, sorry, K and some of your nonsense, some other nonsense uh that you said about how, you know, oh, we have access to our politicians. How often does a white van man have access to the chancellor, the woman who, as he said, is driving the country into the ground and is is bringing in policies that's probably making him suffer every single day. Now, I don't think he should have sworn. I think that was something that was perhaps, you know, a bit dignified.
>> He can mix. Sorry, Chris.
>> Yes, you can. You can heckle without swearing.
>> How the line gets blurred because you're saying, "Oh, no. He's allowed to heckle." But the thing this thing that he did in the process of heckling the first female chancellor that's not allowed unsafe.
>> But by the way by the way he could have jumped he could have jumped out and have had a chat with her about that exact thing. He wasn't didn't want to have a healthy debate that's part of a functioning democracy as you claim Dre.
He wanted to shout at her. That's all it was simple. I think it should happen.
>> In your argument about him being threatening from his van, you think he would have been less threatening if he got out the van post.
>> Strong opinions coming through on your say as well. Lord Lukan says nobody's going to shout well done. Keep up the good work. Are they? Uh Helen says, "I think it's funny from Zia and Farage."
Uh Christo, the difference is that is from Claire, I should say. At no time was Reeves under threat from that guy.
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Well, guys, for those who don't know, I've been a huge fan of Arsenal since probably before I even learned to speak.
Like, and this week has been amazing. I believe it's been >> You're still learning, are you?
>> Yeah, I'm still I definitely am. It's been 22 years, I believe, the last time we lifted the the Well, it wasn't a premiership then. Can you imagine? But anyway, let's have a look at it. Let's have a look at these scenes.
I have to admit, you know what? After day one, I mean, apart from driving my wife absolutely bonkers cuz I probably ignored her for the rest of the night.
There was something beautiful looking at the scenes that were outside Hibbury. I mean, suddenly everyone was an Arsenal fan. It was truly truly beautiful. It just felt special. It felt like people came together. It felt like all of London was together and yeah, it was just amazing. And I do feel bad for the Tottenham fans out there who are facing relegation. It must have been hard. Not only you facing relegation, but your greatest rivals are winning. And I do hope for Tottenham that they don't go down. But definitely that was my highlight of the week, us winning the Premiership. Come on, Arsenal.
>> Well done Arsenal. I felt very happy as well for our own Ben Leo, who is a is a big Arsenal fan. I think he was he was quite emotional with with that experience. Renee, do you think >> I was telling um Christo in the break that my brother-in-law Trevor, hello, has got an Arsenal badge tattooed on the back of one cough and Arsenal down the other car. A good moment.
>> He's a committed fan.
>> Well, those tattoos are done when he had his full faculties or maybe at the end of of a big night.
>> I tell you what, he is absolutely dedicated. Lives in Australia now, will have been watching that through the night. He will get up to watch every match. Absolutely committed Arsenal fan.
>> Well, it wasn't. Well, if you if you're watching now, Trevor, good day. Uh good day in Australia. Uh we have next Kai.
What is your high five for the last week?
>> Uh it's the story of a girl named Paige who >> settle in folks was uh grew up in a council estate in Droyston in Greater Manchester. She left school. She enrolled in social work and had plans to go into social work, but she took a part-time job at a Mac counter in Selfridges to support the rest of her family. It was a bit of a side hustle.
She fell in love with the beauty and the makeup world, as you can tell. So have I. Um, and her grandmother, who had been a cleaner all her life and had a mortgage, so she had good credit score, she got her a loan so she could start her own business and she launched in 2014 and she now now has 165 staff, turns over 111 million pounds every year. Uh it's the brand's called P Louise. It's launching in makeup.
>> Makeup. Sorry. Yeah, I should have made that clearer. Uh yeah, launching in Boots next week. It's one of the fastest growing uh beauty brands in the country.
I think it's caught my eye. It's in the times. You can read the whole story if you like in that paper of record.
>> It's sort of amazing that those stories of brilliance existing. Uh, and I I particularly love that idea that I think few people can relate to these days of just falling in love with a vocation or a career that you don't expect. And I think nowadays the opportunity for serendipity for that to to fall into your lap or the opportunity to explore things doesn't really happen.
>> No, it didn't fall into her lap. She took the risk alone and she took the risk. And that's what a lot of people who are not entrepreneurs and envy people that are don't realize that along the way they take huge risks that often go wrong.
>> Lovely to say it's just that if she was if she was starting out now it would be lovely to see her off to Dubai at the airport. Bye when you can go somewhere else. This the question I was going to ask you Christo and I don't want to diminish what is a lovely high five but there is a serious and slightly darker point to be made and that is that this government is actively punishing entrepreneurship in this country through the ranges of taxes and regulations. Um this is actually in many cases an exception to what is happening where more and more people are either going to the US or to Dubai to set up their business or just not bothering at all.
Why would you bother taking the risk nowadays? Because you are absolutely swamped in red tape. If you do do well, you are taxed into oblivion. You can't take on staff because you have to pay them in a way that that that probably means when you start out you can't or you've got national insurance. It's it's you just you just wouldn't now. Why would you bother?
>> I know. And one very good comment from Victor Meldy says, "Kai, I bet she doesn't vote Labor."
>> Probably not. She don't have a good thing as well. The fact that she is a female. We can't we can't say who knows >> because not a lot of money goes to women starting businesses. I think something like 2% isn't it? VC money something terrible. So it's actually good. She's a role model and you're right. There's not enough of this in the country at the moment.
>> Agree. Uh Christo in my run sheet. I've just got weather. Are you changing a slight little career pivot?
I'd be such a good weather man talking about you know storms and well you know Kai's wind. But no, I'm uh I just want to take a moment, my highlight of the week, and it's not really from all of the week, but just how wonderful it is that it's so sunny across the UK. And I am sick to death of the naysayers saying that firstly, we're all going to die and that we have to put out heat alerts because, you know, just drink some water and drink a bit less rosé in the sunshine. But also, >> we used to call it Darwinism.
>> Yeah. Also like this idea, I have you ever been to Greece or Italy? Uh but also the idea which is hilarious um of the fact that that now the climate change committee I mean you'll love them Renee uh they um suggest that the maximum temperature for workplaces is 27° for sedentary work 25° for light physical work and then you should be able to not work if it hits those temperatures.
>> They should come to my surgery in the old house we work in in the summer is about 50° every day. Well, that white band man that confronted Rachel with sorry you you none of your staff are going to come in today. That roof you were going to fix you can't do. Sorry.
>> Bonkers. I as an Australian I do giggle when I hear about a 28°ree heat wave.
There is there is a a uh a point to be made here and that is one of my favorite British media tropes not used but uh but lesser organizations uh will basically raise the alarm when you have the odd run of good weather. you know, heatwave, brace, you know, the weather maps will go this awful shade of red. There's obviously this climate change messaging behind it. Surely this is just an ideological agenda trying to annoy people when they're just having nice rosé in the sun.
>> You have not talked to people who work in newsrooms, William, because >> literally the reason >> I literally work in a news room. The reason there's a heat wave every single week in the UK during the summer is because newspapers want you to click on the notification on your phone because that is how they make money. William will this is not climate alarmism. What nonsense it's like a massive heatwave coming press and then it's it's not always that it's not even actually my name. My name on my birth certificate is just Will. But that's now it is Will. I just want to I just want to say something really really important because because you made a bit of a joke about it. I look after my um mom and dad who are both nearly 90 and I do have to say though you should check on the elderly. My parents do not drink enough water and there are a lot of people at risk. Dr. R, I'm sure you would agree who are at risk from heat stroke. Is that not the case?
>> Look, I'm going to say that obviously the elderly and some vulnerable groups might be at risk from severe temperatures which I don't think are 25 and 27, but once it starts getting above 30, but you know what? The elderly have been around for a long time. They're quite wise people. They know to drink more when it's hot.
>> Oh, got to come and speak to my dad, please.
>> It is It is It is actually an interesting point that we are tonight.
Can I make >> I want to make 100 at least.
>> Can I make one point that that we should be saying, and actually this would be the only heat weather warning that we should have. If you are moronic enough to leave your dog in a car in weather like this, then I'm afraid that you deserve to be reversed over by that very vehicle.
>> Baby, metaphorically speak metaphorically.
That was a weird weather forecast.
>> Yeah.
>> God, >> I'd stick with political punditry. I suggest Christo um Rene, I would suggest as well um now I think about it, we don't hear much about climate change at the moment.
We hear a lot about Gaza. We hear a lot about uh you know other lefty ideological causes. But am I right saying we don't hear about >> There's been a little bit of a push lately because there's a prediction that the global climate will increase by whatever it is 2.5%. and how that's going to be catastrophic.
>> Hybrid's no good now, is it?
>> I was actually listening I was actually listening to um one of these experts on the radio in the week saying how terrible it was for people for temperatures to rise, but actually 10 times more people die of the cold than they do the heat. So while some people do die of the heat, 10 times more die of the cold. So temperatures lifting will lower the number of people that die of the cold. So Kai, climate change, a wonderful thing for this country.
>> Fantastic news. It's the first I've heard of it. Beavers love it. Big if true.
>> Big if true.
>> Do they?
>> Beavers like war.
>> In that case, >> they build more dams.
>> I've never never turned the beaver down.
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Friend of the show, Grumpy Granddad, says uh in response to uh the the patronizing element that is is directed towards some of our uh our senior citizens today. We know how to look after ourselves. I didn't get to my age by being silly.
>> Exactly.
>> Too right, Claire. Uh, I agree, Renee.
Most elderly people hate being patronized in my experience. If I told my mother she needed to start drinking more, I'd get very short drift. Well, cheers to to Cla's mother. Uh, we are going to go now to uh our next big interview, and it is a cracker. Hunter Kak, the last person to speak to Charlie Kirk before his death, is now being blamed by some people for what happened.
the founder of Turning Point USA shot and killed in the middle of an event in Utah seconds after Kak asked him, "Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?" Since then, theories have circulated that Kak was in cahoots with the shooter, leading people to continuously send him death threats eight months later. But is Kak or the question he asked really to blame? To discuss, I am pleased to welcome Jack Ross, Turning Point UK's chief executive. Jack, thank you very much for taking the time. I want to start with a a wider lens than just Charlie Kirk because in so many ways it was an awful symbol of the problems in our polity today. Uh do you believe that uh political violence is getting worse compared to the past and if so why?
Definitely, I think the left feel very enabled with their violence because historically political violence was condemned across the political spectrum.
Whereas what we're starting to see now that certain elements of um of politics are embracing, celebrating, and even cheering on political violence, which is encouraging people to to engage in more extremist behavior. Certainly at Turning Point UK, um both our students and our staff members have been attacked multiple times by far-left extremists and very little's done to actually hold them to account. Uh there very much is a case of two-tier policing where we often report attacks on our stands, on our debate um events, and the police will say, "Oh, because the attackers were wearing a mask, there's nothing we can do about it." Yet we've seen facial ID being deployed, huge investigations going after other groups. And I just feel that the violence is increasing because the far-left extremists have been enabled um across across the board.
>> So Jack, some people would argue and I suspect some people on this panel would argue that it isn't a left or right thing. It is just about political violence across the the spectrum. Why do you isolate the left specifically as being the uh the the primary perpetrator of political violence in the West?
So, I can only talk from what I've experienced and seen and certainly from what I've seen, I've attended a lot of protests. We've hosted a lot of events.
You very rarely see violence on the right. If you do see violence, it tends to be from people who might be on drugs or alcohol normally maybe associated with, I'd say, football hooligan type behavior. Whereas with the left, what you tend to see is more ideologically driven behavior. You see people turning up to events with weapons. Um, just last year I was at a protest in Southampton and our side got charged by someone with a deodorant can and a lighter who tried to set our side on fire. And that's the level of extremism we're starting to face in the UK. It's 10 times worse in the US where you see people bringing um, say firearms and using firearms at events and what you see in Europe where you see members of Antifa openly using weapons to maim and attack police officers and also conservative activists. Jack, why do if your proposition is correct that this is primarily a left-wing uh problem and many people would dispute that of course, why do you think that's the case? Why do you think that this is uh more innate on the left side of politics as opposed to the right side of politics?
>> That's I think when we see political violence on the right, we all condemn it. When the Southport protests and some turned into riots happened, we condemned the violence across the board on the right. What we tend to see on the left is some leftwingers do condemn the violence. Um, some leftwingers did condemn the violence from Charlie Kirk, but lots of people made jokes about it.
Lots of people celebrated about it online and we don't tend to see the same from the right. So, that's why I'd say it's more of a left-wing violence because it seems to be endorsed by certain sections of the left.
>> Yeah. Before I throw to my panel, what are your reflections on this latest twist in the Charlie Kirk saga?
I think it's a real shame what's happened following Charlie's Charlie's death where where people have tried to twist it and introduce conspiracy theories which are just nonsense and muddy the waters. Uh certainly from the turning point you case perspective we're waiting for the trial. We're waiting for a final final verdict um and justice to be served. Um we shouldn't be dragging in innocent people. we shouldn't be um pushing conspiracy theories. Um not just what's happening with this Hunter Kovac, but also with what's happening with Erica Kirk where she's being accused of all sorts of nonsense when she's Charlie Kirk's grieving widow. The woman lost her husband in the most graphic violent way you can imagine and it was broadcast across the world and she's grieving in her own way and I think people need to give her respect and space.
>> Yeah. And I should add for for clar for for uh the avoidance of doubt, there's no evidence whatsoever to suggest that Erica Kirk was in any way involved with with uh the awful uh assassination of Charlie Kirk. Uh I'll throw to Kyushaw.
Um I'm a bit confused about I feel like this discussion of political violence is slightly out doesn't draw much on our recent history here in the UK where actually lots of the attacks on MPs for instance haven't been from leftists. And I imagine that this might be something to do with with the fact that it's you going out here and that the people who you know don't don't agree with you are the people that you engage with most often. Um I just have this question around we had a recent discussion about heckling and I was saying that actually when you start to blur the lines of what is acceptable discourse and what is you know having a good healthy discussion versus angrily shouting at people then I think is a slippery slope towards political violence. Do you think that more generally our political culture uh allowing things like heckling, allowing people to be demeaned in public will lead to more sort of generalized political violence?
>> Certainly at Turning Point, we encourage freedom of speech. We encourage peaceful and sensible debate. I think what we're seeing is the tribalization of politics where people, you know, are taking stands and there's not much nuance anymore. So if one side believes this, you must believe that. And if one side's good, the other side must be evil as such. And that's where we start to see um you know, people trying to justify violence. I think the problem we have is language. I think language certainly encourages whilst I do believe in freedom of speech, blanketly labeling people Nazis, fascists, um is incitement. I think because people use that to then say punch a Nazi, attack a fascist. And I think we see this this slippery slope where extreme terms are being used and that's being used to justify violence. I do take your point.
I believe Joe Cox uh 2015 was assassinated by a farright extremist.
But I'd say farright violence is is quite quite rare. Um certainly I can speak for my own personal experience when we have say leftwing protesters at an event. Our side doesn't tend to pile into them, attack them, that kind of thing. Whereas what we see with leftwing marches when say auditors go into film or counterprotesters turn up, they're often very violently attacked.
>> Jack, we're running short of time. Kai, quick ride of fly, I I believe.
>> Oh, no. In that case, I'll go to Crystal.
>> Uh, yeah. I I'm really glad you mentioned the word nuance because I think that uh to what extent do you think that the death of nuance is actually where we are now? and that both right and left in fairness they are very very entrenched in their opinions now aren't there and there isn't much agree to disagree I see your side a bit more >> certainly I think it's it it's almost I believe the terms the footballization of politics I think we saw it first in the US where um with Republicans and Democrats where they took very contrasting positions say on Ukraine for example because historically the Republicans would have backed someone like Ukraine because it's seen as standing up to the Soviet Union, but because the Democrats um supported Ukraine, the Republicans must be very anti- Ukraine. And we stopped, as you say, look looking at things um with nuance. And I think it's it's the same in the UK. So you look at the illegal migrants, you have one side who says um anyone who comes in must be deported and the other side saying no, everyone must be in to be allowed. Whereas um actually maybe there's a middle ground we can reach looking at genuine refugees versus people chancing the system. Jack, that's all we've got time for for now, but thank you very much for joining us this evening.
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>> Now, we are joined now by a father and son duo who have taken on an extraordinary 18,000mi challenge.
>> Wow. Yes. George and Joshua have cycled through 31 countries across four continents to raise money for UNICEF.
Well, they set off over a year ago and the pair have taken on some of the toughest terrain on Earth across countries including Turkey, China, Vietnam, and Argentina.
>> Well, we're thrilled to be joined by George and Josh Cola this morning.
George, Josh, thanks for joining us. I mean, I have to say, first question we have for you is what was the tough toughest day you had on this trip and how have you found the response?
Good morning. Um, I think for us the toughest day was was going over the pass in Kyrgyzstan. Two days of of uphill climbing, pushing the bike through dirt roads in searing heat. Uh, getting to the top and looking forward to a nice downhill at 3 and a half thousand m only to find it was even worse going downhill. So that uh that kind of hit morale a little a little bit. Um, made even worse by Joshua getting attacked by bees at the end of the road. Um, so it was all a bit emotional, but we we got through it. Um, got our heads down and then reset and off we went the next day.
>> Where do you stay? I mean, what do you have you got like a tent in the in the in the backpack or on the bike or something and then or do you plan every hotel you go to? Is everything very carefully planned out?
>> It's a complete mixture of where we stay. We carry a tent. So, we've spent a lot of time camping out, wild camping.
We've stayed in campsites, hotels with people have hosted just welcomed us into their homes with open arms. Uh yeah, we've stayed in a whole complete range of accommodation over the last 400 days.
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Welcome back to the Saturday 5 Extra, ladies and gentlemen. Mandy has written in saying, "Will, with all due respect, you've not said or used the word conipion often enough tonight. I apologize, Mandy. I've been reading in the break about famous examples of the word conipion in literature. In Genesis begins again by Alicia D. Williams, the author uses this colloquialism in a modern coming of age fiction to capture explosive familywide emotional outbursts and tense domestic arguments. It sounds like the Saturday five. I love it.
>> Uh let's get on to our final two high fives for the show. And I'm going to take it away with one of my great heroes and and a cheers to Rob Brighten who has uh come up with a new film which is uh commemorating Dame Ed or or Barry Humphre. Uh Barry Humphre was a great Australian who made the UK's home. He's someone who I guess for obvious reasons I I uh I look up to as a role model.
Here's a clip of Dame Ednner on BBC 1's Parkinson festive special.
>> You're looking wonderful. You know, you're ageless.
>> I'm trying to be ageless. I haven't had I've had a little work done, but >> Have you?
>> Not quite as much as SOME >> YEAH, greatly missed Barry Humphre. Uh this was for the National Portrait Gallery Celebration Day. Rob Brighten said that the relationship with Barry Humphre was one of the great thrills of his life. uh one of the uh the great Australians slash Brits uh Renee.
>> Okay, so I live in North London and my local church is St. Jude's on the hill and we have actually got some fantastic footage from the top of the church where they installed a peragrin house because there was rumors that there was a peragan couple and not only have they nested but they've actually raised two chicks and this is live footage. You can go on to St. Jude's peragorin cam and watch these at all times. And there's two little chicks and there's either mommy or daddy feeding them. Apparently a bird because apparently they mainly eat birds. And peraguins were are still um a schedule one endangered species, but there are now about 1500 pairs in the UK and they're still hunted and they still have to be protected. But I just thought that was joyous.
>> You are shameless, Renee. We can't compete with that.
>> That is wicked. Beautiful. Imagine video >> for the local pigeon population. They're probably not a high five for them, is it?
>> Well, pigeons.
>> Oh, don't I love pigeons. I feel bad for you love pigeons.
>> My thumb believes that pigeons are actually not real. They're little robots that have been sent to spy on us.
>> I want to know why uh why you think uh why you just assume that that Christo would love pigeons.
>> No, not Chris.
>> Oh, Trey. Trey.
>> Oh, I don't know.
>> The underdog. They're the underdog.
Flying rats at the end of the job.
They're not flying rats.
>> Give me a break.
>> The lib dems of the skies. Very very successful birds. I do like them about about >> you. You are the squash and dictator has just messaged in pigeon fancers don't like paragrin falcons.
>> Problem with pigeon. I don't like pigeons.
>> The show really is devolving now. The problem with pigeons. Can I tell can I tell you about pigeons? because I didn't like pigeons and then I found out that the reason there are so many pigeons is because we actually domesticated them and we used to use them and we used to feed them and now we've just abandoned them and that's why they're so many of them.
>> We're now being successful with pilgrim falcons who eat pigeons.
>> Well, fine. Well, then let's breed more of those. But I just feel bad for the pigeons.
>> Pigeon abandon pigeons used to send messages in wars, didn't they? I mean, they were quite a pigeon.
>> I've got nothing further to say on pigeons, but I did mention one of my role models. I did mention one of my role models, Barry Humphre. Very quickly before we go out, Renee, your role model, one of your role models.
>> Oh my goodness. A role model? I don't know. That's a bit off the cuff.
>> Anyone who got a role model Nelson Mandela. Absolutely. Cuz he bridged the gap between people.
>> Uh uh, Alex Armstrong.
>> I can see Alex in the corner of my eye.
And he had a little grin there. I made his a role model for you.
>> I've written about this for the GV News website. my dad >> because he came here with absolutely nothing and under Thatcher's policies thrived and he wouldn't be able to today.
>> Well done. Same as my dad. Well done.
>> Um yeah, but you would probably vote for the people that wouldn't make thrive today.
>> That argu >> and I'll re have one.
>> Well, in that case, uh we would love to hear your role as well at home.
More importantly, thank you very much to our guests and to you, our lovely audience. You make the Saturday 5 what it is. Thank you to the gang with Sunday 5. Now of course it is arguably the second best show on Saturday evenings.
It is the inevitable Alex Armstrong.
Alex, what have you got for us?
>> It's the best show on Saturday nights and Sunday nights. My ad look quite seriously. We've got an Afghan crime wave sweeping the country and I think it's about time we spoke about it and what we should do to secure our country.
There's also quite a harrowing case of uh teenage boys raping a girl and getting a custodial sentence. We'll be talking about whether or not our justice system is totally broken and the Greens want to act prevent. All of that coming up.
>> Expect warm spells with the odd rude interruption.
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But over eastern and southern areas of Scotland, managing to see some sunshine break through as well as eastern counties of Northern Ireland. The bulk of the sunshine though really reserved once again for parts of England and Wales. almost waterall blue skies for some of us though. A little bit of fair weather cloud bubbling up in places with all that sunshine around. Remember that UV levels are going to be high. Some very strong sunshine out there. So, the potential for sunburning quite quickly.
But pollen levels are also increasing.
We're starting to see the grass pollen emerging. So, hay fever sufferers be aware as well. Top temperatures into Sunday likely to be around 31 degrees Celsius in the southeast, but quite widely into the low to mid20s across the board.
This area of high pressure that we've got around at the moment is sticking with us into bank holiday Monday. We do still have that front across the far northwest, but with the high pressure building in, it should hopefully break that front up as we head into the second half of Monday. So, it will take some time, but eventually the rain will begin to ease here. But really, for many of us, it's a fine and pleasant bank holiday Monday to be getting outside.
though increasingly warm, potentially our hottest ever bank holiday on record with temperatures only just slowly decreasing as we head into next week.
Bye-bye.
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