On Location · New Zealand · Inside the Balfour Bloodline

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[00:00:00]Hey guys, I am here in New Zealand and I ran into my good friend that I meant uh met two years ago, Paul Seville, and he is the great grandson of Lord Balffor and we wanted to catch him uh let him talk a little bit about uh his life, his experiences, some of the things he's he's been involved in. But you got to understand there's a history behind this. when in World War I when Lord Balffor made the Balffor declaration saying that Israel needs to have their own homeland that started the the thing the ball rolling uh for Israel to come back in 1948. So here is the great grandson of Lord Balffor. Tell me this Paul tell the audience a little bit about the history of Lord Balffor. What made him make this declaration to to say Israel needs their own homeland? What was going on behind the scenes?

[00:00:54]>> Yeah. Well, he grew up in a Christian home.

[00:00:56]>> Okay.

[00:00:56]>> His mom was a truly born again evangelical Christian.

[00:01:00]>> Even though they were aristocratic family, >> okay, >> in England in those days, uh, fully involved in politics and were wealthy at the time.

[00:01:09]>> Okay.

[00:01:10]>> Um, she used to even go down to the local train stations.

[00:01:15]>> Really?

[00:01:15]>> And hand out tracks.

[00:01:17]>> Really?

[00:01:17]>> Yes.

[00:01:18]>> Wow.

[00:01:19]>> And, uh, she used to, uh, read the scriptures every morning to the family.

[00:01:24]Wow.

[00:01:24]>> So, uh, Lord Belffor had that grounding.

[00:01:27]>> Yeah.

[00:01:27]>> And, uh, when he left school, of course, he went to universities.

[00:01:31]>> Sure.

[00:01:32]>> And, uh, he went to Cambridge and and eaten and those ones. And, um, he was known as a man of the letters, which is >> the, uh, five first five books of the Bible and the book of Psalms. So he had a great grounding and and uh he says that his greatest greatest achievement uh in his life and why he believes God placed him here was to provide a homeland. It's in it's in his in the literature about him.

[00:01:59]>> Wow.

[00:01:59]>> That that he states that uh the fact that um God used him to set the process for uh the Jews coming back to their land.

[00:02:08]>> Right.

[00:02:09]>> Yeah.

[00:02:10]>> That's significant. last time.

[00:02:13]Remind me. Did you say Lord Balffor was Jewish or had Jewish blood in him?

[00:02:18]>> Yes. Yes.

[00:02:18]>> Explain that.

[00:02:20]>> Yep. Um I I had to go to Family Search to um cuz I wanted to know where the relationship and if there's a Jewish link. And uh they they took us back to um when they left Israel. Um they the early ancestors lived up in Eva Croatia or Hungary somewhere around here.

[00:02:42]>> Okay.

[00:02:43]>> And it was a place called Oelitz and so they were known as Oelitz.

[00:02:48]>> Oels >> and how we come across this is that my dad's name was Frederick >> but there's no Frederick's in in as we know in the Savile family and course in those days they quite often used to uh name their children after ancestors.

[00:03:05]Okay.

[00:03:06]>> And so that's why I approached Family um search and they said, "Well, all the ostelates were Frederick oustites."

[00:03:15]And uh >> okay, >> the Jews and the Christians were pushed across Europe and some of them some of the oelitzes and blews went up through the Baltic region and um our family came through France.

[00:03:29]>> Okay.

[00:03:29]>> And eventually ended up in in uh the UK.

[00:03:33]>> Okay. uh most of the Jews and the and the Christians that were being persecuted out of Europe um came from Belgium through York and England. So when they came into Scotland um that's when they were called Belffors.

[00:03:49]>> Ah okay. When they got to Scotland?

[00:03:51]>> Yeah. There's a uh there's a Belffor Margaret Belffor in Scotland that we've been communicating with.

[00:03:57]>> Really? um a relation to Lord Balffor and I said uh when your dad was alive did you ever talk about the Oelitzes >> and she said yes he did >> but uh she never pursued that so um we don't we didn't we haven't got that understanding from that generation uh about the oelites but >> so it's all come from family search >> okay regards the oelates so I've done my DNA >> have you okay >> and on 95% Jewish.

[00:04:29]>> Are you really?

[00:04:29]>> Yeah.

[00:04:30]>> 95. Wow.

[00:04:32]>> So, mom, my mom was uh is Jewish and so was dad.

[00:04:36]>> Okay.

[00:04:36]>> And um they came from the tribe of Judah and Ephraim.

[00:04:40]>> Okay.

[00:04:41]>> And when I did my DNA um it proves that um we did come from Ephereim.

[00:04:47]>> Okay.

[00:04:47]>> Ephereim was a product of Joseph.

[00:04:50]>> Yes.

[00:04:51]>> One of the children of Israel and uh a Egyptian princess. He was given Egyptian princess.

[00:04:58]>> That's right. That's right.

[00:04:59]>> And Manassa and Ephraim came from him.

[00:05:01]Yeah. And uh >> when I got my DNA done, I still had 8% what they call amotic. O M O T I C.

[00:05:09]>> Omatic.

[00:05:10]>> Yep. And it means North African descent.

[00:05:13]>> There you go.

[00:05:13]>> Which is Egyptian.

[00:05:14]>> That's Egyptian.

[00:05:15]>> So I still carry that with me.

[00:05:18]>> Wow.

[00:05:18]>> So um >> Yeah. Quite interesting, isn't it?

[00:05:21]>> That is interesting. I don't think anyone knows that about Lord Bour.

[00:05:24]doesn't know the ancestry that he was Jewish and and here you are being Jewish 95 or 90 what did you say 98 95 holy smokes >> so so tell me this then okay >> have you done any research on Lord Balffor's I mean he would obviously knew the Bible very well but man to be pro-Israel before Israel became a nation in 1948 man where did that come from that that that was rare to find in those days how did that happen you Oh, >> not really. I don't even know if he knew that he had a Jewish ancestry.

[00:05:59]>> Really?

[00:05:59]>> Yeah. I would say just came from his pure study of the scriptures.

[00:06:03]>> Okay.

[00:06:04]>> Now, we know that Lord Belffor uh in his later years got um way laid in his Christian life and went went into uh spiritualistic philos.

[00:06:16]>> Oh no. Okay.

[00:06:17]>> Yeah. So um >> Okay.

[00:06:18]>> Yep. So that can happen to all of us of course.

[00:06:20]>> Sure. It can absolutely. We can drift away.

[00:06:22]>> Yeah. So tell me this. Okay. So here we are. I'm in New Zealand and I run into you. Why are you not in Britain? How did you get here? How did your family trace to New Zealand?

[00:06:31]>> Yes. Uh aristocratic families, if there was ever a dis misdemeanor in the family, um when that offspring uh came of age, they were then sent out of the country.

[00:06:45]>> Ah.

[00:06:45]>> And so and they were normally paid. We don't know. We haven't got the records.

[00:06:50]But um in those days they were known as remittance men.

[00:06:55]>> Okay.

[00:06:55]>> So in any aristocratic family if if their children had a misdemeanor >> um that the offspring would be sent out of the country and they'd be paid to stay away. That's why >> would they really? Okay.

[00:07:08]>> And it's kind of like the British royalty sometimes.

[00:07:11]>> Yeah.

[00:07:11]>> Yeah. I did come across one person who stated that um our grandfather Arthur Savile named after Arthur Belffor. Yeah.

[00:07:20]Lord Lord James Arlefor um was an exception cuz most remittance men uh spent their remittance from England in the pub.

[00:07:30]>> Oh, they did. Okay. Yeah.

[00:07:32]>> But our grandfather because he was a believer uh advanced himself.

[00:07:37]>> Okay.

[00:07:38]>> So, uh that's how that happened. Um, >> gotcha.

[00:07:42]>> And I was asked before about did they have did he have any contact with Jay and Derby?

[00:07:48]>> Yeah.

[00:07:49]>> Well, he sat under the J and Derby and the other four brethren who were with Jay and Derby in his early years.

[00:07:56]>> Really?

[00:07:56]>> So he had teaching from them as well.

[00:07:59]>> Okay.

[00:07:59]>> It gave him a good foundation.

[00:08:00]>> Yeah.

[00:08:01]>> So when he left uh England, he tried a few countries to live in and u ended up in in New Zealand.

[00:08:08]>> Ended up in New Zealand.

[00:08:09]>> Yeah. Okay. So, >> wow. Pretty amazing.

[00:08:11]>> And Lord Belffor, he brought a farm in New Zealand.

[00:08:15]>> He did.

[00:08:15]>> He did.

[00:08:16]>> Oh my goodness. Didn't know that.

[00:08:18]>> Yes.

[00:08:18]>> Wow. So, there's the connection. So, tell me this. Okay. So, you've been living in New Zealand, uh, grew up here, raised everything. Okay. So, tell me this.

[00:08:27]>> How did you personally, you just um you're very pro-Israel. You know, the whole we're talking we're at a prophecy conference and you you know how it's all laid out and that's very rare. So what was your upbringing like? Who taught you all these things?

[00:08:42]>> Yep. Well, um, our dad, we used to have family devotions.

[00:08:46]>> Okay.

[00:08:46]>> And dad always said, uh, when I become a Christian, you're Christian first. Our citizenship is in heaven.

[00:08:52]>> Mhm.

[00:08:53]>> Our nationality is Jewish.

[00:08:55]>> Mhm.

[00:08:55]>> And so, >> wow.

[00:08:57]>> You're you're number one, you're Christian first.

[00:08:59]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:09:00]>> And so, uh, when I got into prophecy teaching or study was when I was 19.

[00:09:06]>> 19.

[00:09:06]>> Yep.

[00:09:07]>> Okay. Um, an elder in our church gave me a tape by Dr. Jack Vanipi.

[00:09:13]>> Yeah.

[00:09:13]>> And it was on Ezekiel 38.

[00:09:15]>> Was it? Okay.

[00:09:16]>> World War II.

[00:09:16]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:09:17]>> And that just lit a fire in me. So since I was 19, I've been studying prophecy.

[00:09:22]>> Amen. Amen.

[00:09:23]>> And uh very much in support Israel Jew myself.

[00:09:28]>> Right.

[00:09:28]>> And I believe well we know it's God's order that they would come back and be a nation.

[00:09:34]>> Yeah.

[00:09:34]>> And so it's his purpose.

[00:09:36]>> Amen. Yeah.

[00:09:37]>> So, let me ask you this on a personal level since you're Jewish. U we're very pro-Israel and and but we're seeing the tide of of rising anti-semitism.

[00:09:47]>> You seen it here in New Zealand?

[00:09:48]>> Yes.

[00:09:49]>> Is it getting bad here or what?

[00:09:50]>> It is getting uh it is getting starting to grow anti-semitism.

[00:09:56]>> Uh we have quite a good um government at the moment.

[00:09:59]>> Okay.

[00:10:00]>> That just temper that.

[00:10:01]>> They do. Okay. But uh there are other factions in New Zealand that um especially with this war try and blame Israel.

[00:10:08]>> Yes, I know.

[00:10:09]>> Yeah.

[00:10:09]>> Yeah.

[00:10:09]>> Yeah.

[00:10:10]>> That they always end up being the scapegoat for everybody.

[00:10:13]>> That's right.

[00:10:13]>> You know, and so >> well, we know they've got to be alone because um Jesus even prophesied that in Matthew 24. You'll be hated for my name's sake.

[00:10:22]>> Right.

[00:10:22]>> And it says that all nations will hate her.

[00:10:25]>> That's right.

[00:10:25]>> And and so we see that uh starting to rise now.

[00:10:29]>> Yeah, we do.

[00:10:30]>> Yeah. And especially you, a person on a personal level, you've got to feel that.

[00:10:34]Every Jewish person I talk to, they they feel this. And and and it's it's again, like you say, it's predicted. It's it's what God said would happen. They'd be isolated and alone. And the good news is is this audience and everybody at this conference is very pro- Israel. We're and and thank God that you guys are pro- Israel. We need more people to stand for Israel and and stand for folks like this. This is this is what we're talking about right here. and and and so let me ask you this then. Um New Zealand, okay, the church the church is in New Zealand.

[00:11:06]I want everybody in our audience uh we have people in Australia watching Canada, in the UK, what's the spiritual climate like in the church here?

[00:11:16]>> Yep. It's like everywhere in the world, I believe that um the church as a whole is apostate.

[00:11:23]>> Yeah.

[00:11:24]>> And uh there's only little as we say here remnant.

[00:11:27]>> Yeah. There's a remnant. Yeah.

[00:11:28]>> You know, Jesus said that when he comes again, will he find faith on the earth?

[00:11:32]>> He wasn't talking about the end of the tribulation, >> right?

[00:11:35]>> Because he only comes out at the second coming because of faith.

[00:11:38]>> That's right.

[00:11:38]>> The third of the Jews cry out to say, "Save us, Lord."

[00:11:42]>> Amen.

[00:11:42]>> So, they're crying out in faith. So, he's not talking about the end of the tribulation. He's talking about now.

[00:11:48]>> Yeah.

[00:11:48]>> And when you look at uh what Jesus said about in the days of Nah, in the days of Lot, uh how many were saved in Noah's day? He preached for many years.

[00:11:56]>> Yeah. He saved his only his family.

[00:11:58]Yeah. So, be encouraged to everyone out there.

[00:12:00]>> Never stop witnessing to your own family if they don't know the Lord.

[00:12:03]>> Amen.

[00:12:04]>> Now, same with Lot.

[00:12:05]>> Yes.

[00:12:05]>> Lot only saved his two daughters.

[00:12:07]>> That's right.

[00:12:08]>> It says that he went and talked to his son-in-laws that were in the gate. They were leaders of that Sodom and Gomorrah.

[00:12:13]>> That's right.

[00:12:14]>> And yet they laughed at him. And so, uh, yeah, that's that's my thoughts there that the church is is very much apostate. It's it's as we have heard today >> that uh the church is there for fun and entertainment.

[00:12:28]>> Yes.

[00:12:28]>> And and not to worship the one true God.

[00:12:31]>> Amen. Amen.

[00:12:32]>> Yeah.

[00:12:33]>> Well, you mentioned a remnant and and we see this that we come to here uh to New Zealand where we go to Australia or wherever, there's always this remnant.

[00:12:40]Yes. This core remnant. And it's I don't know about you, but it seems like when I talk to them and you talk to them, >> I feel like we're on the same page. I can be from America, but I see the same issues that you do.

[00:12:51]>> Yes.

[00:12:51]>> And we're like on the same page. You see that, too?

[00:12:54]>> Yes.

[00:12:54]>> So, so that's got to be the connection of the body of Christ with the remnant.

[00:12:58]That's >> Exactly.

[00:12:59]>> Yeah.

[00:12:59]>> Yeah.

[00:13:00]>> You know, I I um God's got me in a ministry.

[00:13:03]>> Yeah.

[00:13:04]>> Of of prophetic teaching.

[00:13:05]>> Amen.

[00:13:06]>> And so, we have a Google meet on Thursday night.

[00:13:08]>> Do you? Okay.

[00:13:09]>> And uh there's only probably four or five from our church that come on.

[00:13:13]>> Okay.

[00:13:13]>> Uh all the rest are from around the world.

[00:13:16]>> Amen. And uh they say that they can't really discuss prophecy end times with their fellowships or even with their pastors because uh they're just isolated.

[00:13:28]>> And so they come on the Thursday night and they feel that uh Thursday night is their true church.

[00:13:35]>> Amen.

[00:13:36]>> Their true fellowship. Sure. So like your ministry.

[00:13:38]>> Yep.

[00:13:39]>> Yep.

[00:13:40]>> Yeah.

[00:13:40]>> Yeah. You know, that's what we're finding the same dynamic. Um we have a local church obviously and we we have significant people there but um the broader internet is where a lot of our ministry is at.

[00:13:52]>> Yes.

[00:13:53]>> It's it's outside the walls of a brick building or so so yet that that seems to be the common thing. Now let me ask you this. You had an interesting story >> you shared with me before we came on and uh you got interrogated.

[00:14:07]>> I did >> by intelligence agencies.

[00:14:09]>> The five eyes.

[00:14:10]>> The five eyes. Right. And I want you to explain what happened because the story is very is phenomenal because uh the answer to why you knew all this information comes is very simple but I want you to tell the story of why did you get investigated by the five eyes.

[00:14:26]>> Yep. Uh I was doing a law paper uh down at Palmsson North Massie University. I was doing it extra murally so I wasn't full-time in university. I was doing this most of the studies at home and then we'd go in in a paper. We would have one week block course.

[00:14:44]>> Okay.

[00:14:44]>> And when you do those oneweek block courses, you started at 7 on Monday morning and you went through to about 6:00 at night. So, so it was pretty heavy, >> pretty intense.

[00:14:53]>> And uh we had to have an assignment. The first assignment on this particular paper um the subject was the place of the privy council in the future of New Zealand war.

[00:15:06]And so, uh, I I wrote this assignment saying that our our future pattern of law in New Zealand would disregard England because Privy Council was is is with their highest court in England.

[00:15:22]>> And uh, at that stage, we only had about two or three cases that were left that could be heard by the Privy Council.

[00:15:29]>> Okay. So I said that our future law and this is in this assignment would be a family court then the general court then you'd go into um high court >> okay >> and then you'd go into a court of appeal >> okay >> and then supreme court and that would be our highest form of of law in New Zealand but then you'd go to your region court like the EU >> yeah yeah >> you know the EU court is in Brussels >> um the world the world court is in the H and So uh our our this is this is information that I had received at that stage was our region was going to be connected with China >> and so there's a courthouse already built. This is 1997.

[00:16:16]>> Okay.

[00:16:16]>> So this this uh courthouse has already been built in Shanghai and uh that would be our region court.

[00:16:23]Okay. So we if we couldn't get a ruling in our courts, we could then appeal to our region court in the future, which would be in Shanghai.

[00:16:32]>> Okay?

[00:16:32]>> And then you'd go to the world court if we got didn't get a satisfactory ruling there.

[00:16:37]>> Okay? So, I wrote this in there and uh I handed my assignment in at 7:00 on on the Monday morning and at half past 10 after the morning break, the uh professor of law came in and came straight up to my desk and said, "Interesting assignment, but we'll mark it."

[00:16:56]>> Okay.

[00:16:56]>> I didn't know at the time, but uh when you put an assignment in, it's put into the internet.

[00:17:02]>> Every every assignment is scanned in and it goes worldwide.

[00:17:06]>> Oh, man. Wow.

[00:17:07]>> Yep. They're looking for plagarism.

[00:17:09]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:17:10]>> And other things, but obviously the world order have capture words >> and uh he had already been when he got there at 10 for morning break, they had already said uh this this assignment is uh there's something about it.

[00:17:24]>> And so uh that was interesting.

[00:17:28]At lunchtime, after lunch, I had a new person sitting behind me and it was a little man, Silverhead, and he befriended me. We got talking. I found out he was the head of our secret intelligence service in New Zealand.

[00:17:43]>> I found out later.

[00:17:44]>> Wow.

[00:17:45]>> So, the next morning on the Tuesday morning, >> uh when I arrived up at 7, the professor said, "We're changing the timet.

[00:17:53]Uh we aren't breaking at 10:00."

[00:17:55]>> Okay. Uh we we'll go right through to 5 to 12 uh at at 12:00. Um there's there's some men that he coming that want to interview Russell.

[00:18:07]They knew me as Russell in those days.

[00:18:09]>> Okay.

[00:18:09]>> And um so at at 5 to 12 that whole wing of that university was uh evacuated.

[00:18:18]>> Really?

[00:18:18]>> Yep. Cleaned right out.

[00:18:19]>> Wow. And at then on 12:00 in walked six men and five of them were from the five eyes.

[00:18:27]>> Okay.

[00:18:27]>> And >> explain the five eyes for people they may not know.

[00:18:30]>> The five eyes is a is a interation five nations who share intelligence. It's America, Canada, England, Australia and New Zealand. But Mossad Mossad was there at this meeting.

[00:18:43]>> They were there.

[00:18:44]>> Yes. And I asked them about why was Mossad.

[00:18:48]>> Yeah. And they said, "Well, they're a secret because Mossad is one of the most uh far intelligence services in the world. Probably the gold standard."

[00:18:56]>> Oh, yeah. No doubt.

[00:18:57]>> Um they were they sort of are a secret attachment. And so they were there and u the guy from America, why they held off uh interviewing me until that Tuesday is that he flew all the way down from Washington from the Pentagon.

[00:19:15]>> Wow.

[00:19:15]>> So they were treating this pretty seriously, >> I guess. So >> and cuz they come in and introduce themselves. The dean of the college was there of the university uh probably to oversee things and uh the first thing they said we just want to have a talk to you about your assignment. Um we're concerned about some of the information you had in there. How did you know about the 10 regions?

[00:19:39]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:19:40]>> And uh and so I said, "Oh, easy. It's in the scriptures." I said I said I I'm a I'm a student of prophecy >> and it talks in there that there's going to be a 10 region in the world >> uh in the tribulation period. I ended up >> uh witnessing to them for two and a half hours. I I had my Bible in in the uh >> That's great.

[00:19:59]>> So I was able to show them.

[00:20:01]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:20:01]>> And uh they were asking questions and at the very end there was two telling comments uh from this guy from the America. He said, "Um, we thought that you belong to a group that we didn't have our eyes on."

[00:20:18]>> That's great.

[00:20:19]>> But we realize you're just an individual.

[00:20:21]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:20:21]>> So, you have no interest to us. But he said, "Everything you've said, we can't refute. It's absolutely accurate."

[00:20:28]>> Really?

[00:20:29]>> Yep. Yeah.

[00:20:30]>> Wow. So, he let the the cat out of the bag. I mean, that they're doing this.

[00:20:34]>> Yes. Yeah. But they have kept an eye on me ever since.

[00:20:37]>> Have they?

[00:20:38]>> Yep.

[00:20:38]>> Okay.

[00:20:39]Well, well, anyway, you're going to bring heat on me, so that's all right.

[00:20:42]But you're right. We're getting it from the Bible, the 10 global regions, you know, and there you just put it right there. And that's amazing that >> intelligence agencies are wondering where are you getting this information.

[00:20:53]It's like right there in the Bible.

[00:20:54]>> Yes.

[00:20:55]>> That's that's fascinating.

[00:20:56]>> Yep. I told him I told them straight, we know exactly what you guys are up to.

[00:21:00]>> Yeah, >> I did.

[00:21:01]>> Did you? Fantastic. That's great. That's a great story, man. But it goes to show you prophecy, how important it is.

[00:21:09]>> They're afraid of it.

[00:21:10]>> Yes, >> they are.

[00:21:12]>> Absolutely.

[00:21:12]>> Because it's revealing. Yes.

[00:21:14]>> What they're up to, >> right?

[00:21:15]>> Do you know that professor of law is not allowed to talk to me?

[00:21:18]>> He's not.

[00:21:19]>> No.

[00:21:19]>> What? Why? What did they say? Did they give you a reason?

[00:21:22]>> Well, I had to cuz I was in my business at the time. I had to go to some new understanding of law.

[00:21:28]>> Uhhuh.

[00:21:29]>> And uh he was the lecturer at that uh format. And when I went in, I saw on there I went up to walk walk towards him and he said, "No, can't talk to you."

[00:21:38]>> Really?

[00:21:39]>> Yep. So, uh, >> wow.

[00:21:42]>> Yeah.

[00:21:42]>> So, you're a dangerous guy apparently with all kinds of information you're getting from the scriptures. Isn't that amazing?

[00:21:48]>> Quite often when I'm on the phone and we're talking about end times and I get into politics, Yeah. how it's linked to scripture.

[00:21:54]>> Mhm.

[00:21:54]>> You can hear a click and sometimes they'll cut us off.

[00:21:58]>> Really?

[00:21:58]>> In fact, over the co This I haven't told you this one.

[00:22:01]>> No. Tell me another one.

[00:22:02]>> Yeah. This one's really interesting.

[00:22:04]>> Okay.

[00:22:04]>> Uh we had this Thursday night prophecy group because we couldn't meet in in a building anywhere.

[00:22:10]>> Yeah, sure.

[00:22:11]>> So, we went to the internet to run our Google meet and um well, it wasn't we used the church's platform which was Microsoft Zoom.

[00:22:19]>> Okay.

[00:22:20]>> And this night I was uh linking the co as a precursor to what's going to happen in the tribulation with the fourth seal.

[00:22:30]>> Ah yeah. Okay. And uh we'd almost got to the end and this voice came on and said, "That is enough. Good night." And >> what?

[00:22:39]>> And everybody's screen went white. Not black, white. And uh >> Oh my goodness.

[00:22:45]>> There was a guy recording it and he said, "I saw what was happening and I went to put my cursor down to save it and it wiped."

[00:22:52]>> Really?

[00:22:53]>> Wiped it from his computer.

[00:22:54]>> So So >> So they were watching.

[00:22:56]>> They were watching.

[00:22:57]>> Oh my goodness.

[00:22:59]>> So wow. But it doesn't worry us because >> uh Psalm 31 is very very important to me. It say my trust is in the Lord for my times are in his hands.

[00:23:08]>> Amen.

[00:23:09]>> And so whatever happens I know I'm in God's hands.

[00:23:12]>> Amen. Wow.

[00:23:13]>> They don't concern me. I'm not afraid of them.

[00:23:15]>> Sure. Sure.

[00:23:16]>> But you know people said, "Weren't you afraid when the uh five eyes come and interrogated you?" I said, "No, the Bible says that he will give you the words to say.

[00:23:25]>> You need to need not to worry."

[00:23:27]>> That's right. And uh I think God just overtook my mouth.

[00:23:31]>> So you ended up witnessing to them. Oh yeah. Through it.

[00:23:33]>> Definitely. I I told him the gospel. I said, "If you don't accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your savior," I said, "you're going to go into the into the tribulation."

[00:23:40]>> Amen.

[00:23:41]>> Yeah. And I said, "This is an this is an evil regime that's coming."

[00:23:45]>> That's amazing. That's >> That's incredible. And that's incredible. It's not just the stories, but your your lineage coming down. And it makes sense. I mean, with that lineage coming from Lord Balfor and then you're doing this and witnessing and and and now you're involved in in the end times and it it's it makes sense.

[00:24:04]Everything lines up.

[00:24:05]>> Yes.

[00:24:05]>> You're you're doing your call. That's what God's called you to do.

[00:24:09]>> That's right.

[00:24:09]>> And uh it's it's amazing. It's a a great testimony to everybody out there listening to this. So, let me ask you this.

[00:24:17]You're going to continue to do ministry till the Lord calls us home.

[00:24:20]>> Right.

[00:24:20]>> So, how how do people find you if you're on the internet? Do you have a place that they can go to?

[00:24:24]>> Um, not as such. It's it's more by invite at this stage.

[00:24:28]>> Okay.

[00:24:28]>> Um, I could talk to our IT guys.

[00:24:31]>> Okay.

[00:24:31]>> Uh, to to actually shift it across to the internet.

[00:24:35]>> Okay.

[00:24:35]>> Um, the reason why we kept it a bit more private was because of the actions of the intelligence agencies against us >> cuz they did wipe my computer.

[00:24:45]>> Oh, do they really?

[00:24:46]>> I took it to a Windows expert. He's got degrees all over his wall regards internet and he said this has been done professionally. He said I can't touch it.

[00:24:55]>> Really?

[00:24:56]>> Yeah. So I lost all that information but they can't take it from here. So >> Amen.

[00:25:01]>> And so I do have >> That's nuts, man. That's crazy.

[00:25:05]>> Yeah.

[00:25:05]>> But you you got your you got your information from the Bible. Anybody can go down to the store and get a Bible and there it is. What's going to happen?

[00:25:11]>> Yeah. Yeah, I was telling your son before that uh prophecy is the easiest uh message to preach today cuz all you have to red do is read the scriptures and it's relevant, >> right? It's like reading the newspaper.

[00:25:21]Of course it is.

[00:25:22]>> It's right there.

[00:25:23]>> So tell me this last question and I got to let you run.

[00:25:27]>> So why do you think I mean the churches even New Zealand or wherever are refusing to teach prophecy? What what are they afraid of?

[00:25:36]>> I think there's two reasons.

[00:25:37]>> Okay.

[00:25:38]>> One is they're ignorant of it.

[00:25:39]>> Yeah, that's true. because it takes study, >> right?

[00:25:42]>> And and the other is I I believe that there is a demonic element.

[00:25:47]>> Okay?

[00:25:47]>> Because uh if you don't teach it, then your congregation is afraid. And if they're afraid, you can do what the old Vatican, the Roman Catholics did in the old days. You can rule them by fear.

[00:25:59]>> Ah yes.

[00:26:00]>> Yeah. So amen.

[00:26:01]>> I believe that is too like two the two reason main reasons. Yeah.

[00:26:06]>> Um yeah. You know, prophecy was written for us to prepare us, not to scare us.

[00:26:10]>> That's right.

[00:26:11]>> Yeah, >> that's right.

[00:26:11]>> I think you say that.

[00:26:12]>> I do say that. I say that all the time.

[00:26:15]But no, that you're absolutely right.

[00:26:17]And and I think you they're not preparing the people for what's coming and and they're going to be hit out of left field with a lot of this.

[00:26:24]>> Yes.

[00:26:25]>> Um and but no, you you hit you hit the nail on the head. So So Paul, let me let me say this. Uh God's got you in a place where you're preparing people and stuff.

[00:26:35]And I wish the the churches you're doing I would say more than 98% of the pastors in the west. Yes.

[00:26:41]>> Because they're not they're just not talking prophecy.

[00:26:43]>> So God bless you for that. It's a great witness. What do you tell people that's out there? A lot of people even at this conference, they don't even have a home church.

[00:26:52]>> Yes.

[00:26:52]>> What what can they do? They're they they've told me repeatedly. They say, "Brandon, the churches are woke. The churches they won't talk on prophecy.

[00:27:01]What can they do individually? What what advice would you have for them?

[00:27:04]>> Well, first of all, if they can get to a church that is teaching the truth.

[00:27:09]>> Uh go to that.

[00:27:10]>> Yeah.

[00:27:10]>> Otherwise, get on a group like yours or mine.

[00:27:13]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:27:13]>> Um Billy Cone has set up a internet church.

[00:27:17]>> Y >> Hebrews 10, it says, "Do not forsake the assembling of yourselves together as some do, >> especially in the days that are approaching."

[00:27:24]>> Yeah. You know, I've come across so many people that are out there that are individual and they've left the churches because one, they their prophecyy's not being taught >> and because the church has got woke and introducing doctrine that they can't aren't comfortable with >> and so they're out there by themselves.

[00:27:42]>> Y >> and uh they just want to be a part of a flock.

[00:27:46]>> Yeah, they do.

[00:27:46]>> Yeah. Yeah. And my heart goes out to them.

[00:27:49]>> Sure. And so we actually have the Zoom on the Thursday night here in New Zealand, but we also have a a meeting, a physical meeting. Good on the Saturday morning.

[00:27:58]>> That's important.

[00:27:59]>> Yeah.

[00:27:59]>> Yeah.

[00:28:00]>> So, uh, you know, we're out there presenting. Plus, we go and preach at other churches.

[00:28:05]>> Great.

[00:28:06]>> Yeah. On on end times.

[00:28:07]>> Amen.

[00:28:08]>> Yeah.

[00:28:08]>> You're doing a good job, man. That's wonderful.

[00:28:10]>> Yeah.

[00:28:11]>> Well, keep doing the the the work you're doing. You're in the battle. You're in the trenches. And it's always a pleasure to meet be with you. This is the second time I've ran into you and it's always a blessing. I talk about you all the time when I when I go and I I preach other places. I said, "Hey, I've met Lord Balffor's grand greatgrandson."

[00:28:31]And what they don't know is the Jewish heritage behind it >> and it blows them away. So, I'm going to keep saying that. Okay. Amen. Anyway, Paul, thank you so much. You're a blessing, my friend.

[00:28:41]>> Yeah. God bless you.

[00:28:42]>> Okay. God bless you, man. And folks, thanks so so much for tuning in. And always we're trying to bring uh the best voices out here. Here we are in New Zealand with the great grandson of Lord Balffor Important aspect of getting Israel back into the land obviously. So study your history, know this well because uh everything's at stake. And remember what the Lord said when you see these things begin to happen, all these things in the world that we're talking about, look up, lift up your heads for your redemption draws near. God bless you guys. We'll see you next time.