In reality television, strategic communication and narrative control are critical factors in how conflicts are perceived and resolved. When individuals craft defensive statements or manipulate timelines to control public perception, they often fail to account for the collective memory and evidence-based scrutiny of the audience. The West and Amanda case demonstrates that when individuals attempt to control narratives through carefully timed statements and selective communication, the audience's access to contradictory evidence (such as audio leaks and location data) can expose inconsistencies, ultimately undermining their credibility. This illustrates that in reality television contexts, audiences function as a 'court of public opinion' where evidence and collective memory override strategic communication attempts.
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Hello everybody. Happy Sunday. Welcome to the weekly wrapup. That's Kendrick right there.
>> Hello. Why hello. How the hell are y'all? Oh dear.
>> Let's just get right into it. Let's Oh, hi everyone. Hi. So, sorry. Thank you guys for putting little emojis and happy stuff in the chat already. Helps out.
>> Um, hope you guys are good. Hope you had a decent week. You know, the world is still on fire and horrible, so it's not like we have >> any like updates or anything that, you know, are positive like that.
>> All still bad. Yeah.
>> Yeah. That's that's the update. Just checking in. All still bad.
>> Yep.
>> Um, but let's we got to get right into things because we we talk a lot the last couple weeks. We've been doing >> Yes.
Um, I would like to So, I already did an episode about the Summerhouse reunion part one >> as we've all but we got things >> as we've all but Yes. Uh, but like I just wanted to and I'm being very selfish. I do this a lot with you where I know you've put out an episode about that topic or show already.
>> No, it's okay.
>> But then I don't because I don't get to listen to it because like I you know that you know my rule. I don't listen until I'm done covering it myself. So that I just make you repeat everything you already gave to your podcast.
>> No, the best thing is though, different people bring different things out of you. So like it's already it's it's always like you repeat some stuff, but then it's like actually you just >> got my blood flowing, my juices going, and now I got some other things to say.
So yes, that's exactly what I that's what I was hoping would happen.
>> Um because it was just so egregious. the like, you know, I knew Amanda was going to be bad, but I did not really expect like her >> inner dialogue before she went out on that reunion stage or even showed up to the reunion was just not at all as heartless as I was imag.
It was like apathetic and and and like irritated with all the attention Sierra was getting. like she could tell she came in cuz it was like the onslaught of all of the internet stuff just constantly constantly constantly. It was like hit news stories and so she came into that reunion like irritated and you and I she knows she's not supposed to be irritated with Sierra but she like couldn't help herself. So she like when she says to Andy in the very beginning when they're like when Wes is laying on her in their [ __ ] dressing room >> and Andy's like you guys seem pretty calm. I was kind of hoping some tears would happen, Amanda, because I got Sierra crying over there in the other room, >> right?
>> To your ex-husband, by the way. Yeah.
>> To your ex-husband. But you're over there like, I mean, Sierra is my friend, and I feel bad that I hurt her. I'm like, I don't even believe you when you say that line.
>> No. No.
>> It's like you were just you were only nice to Sierra because you wanted to be friends with Paige and Paige was friends with Sierra. Mhm.
>> Like I really am convinced that all of Am Amanda just wanted to be Paige's bestie >> and like her her relationships were about that which is why then Paige is gone this season and now we got uh this happening >> that that tracks a lot actually cuz I feel like Amanda kind of wanted Paige's life in a way cuz like I think it drove her crazy that like Paige was viewed as the fashion girl so then Amanda like truly tried to like step it up. She failed miserably, but she tried to step it up and like become that fashion girl, too. And it's like, "Oh, mama, that's not you. That's not your lane. Sorry."
>> No. Um, so she And also, I mean, Amanda's a beautiful woman, fine. But like, you're not No one looks like Paige and Sierra, >> right?
>> You know, like they're so they're ridiculously like naturally just stunning.
>> They got factors. Yeah.
>> Yeah. And so like that had to have made her insecure. It would have made me insecure. I would I I could I've said it before and I'll say it again. I could never ever be friends with Paige and Sierra. They are too pretty.
>> Exactly. Imagine showing up somewhere every time and you know you're the dog and the friendship. It's like, okay, well now wait a minute. Let me Hold on.
I I'm about to take this stuff. Let me get a little thin. Let me let me go get a little nip and a tug. Hold on.
Girls night. Hold on.
>> Yeah. I could never. It would be too in it would be too triggering. Like every single time we got together, I'd be like, "Never mind. I thought I looked good."
>> Right? That's the worst. Going to your closet and you pull out like nine different things and try them all on.
You're like, "Okay, I'm starting to think I'm the problem." Okay. Cuz these these are not ugly clothes. Like I It's something I'm doing in the face and stomach and thigh area. Okay. Yeah, it's me.
>> Me. I'm a pro. God, that's so real.
You can change the outfit as many times as you want, but you're still the one wearing it.
>> Exactly. I'm the problem.
>> Like when you put like sometimes when you put an outfit on, you expect to look like this other person you have in your head. Like even a celebrity, >> right? Right.
>> Like when I put these on, I don't look like JLo though.
>> Exact. And then you forget sometimes like they automatically like walk out the house with like a certain posture.
You're like, "Oh, I hunch over." So >> I'm just different. I'm just different all the way around. It's like I Okay, so I'm the problem.
>> Whoopsie. Oops.
>> Um, but so anyway, so Amanda comes in to this irritated. Wes, I had no doubt would be like he was. Wes was kind of exact.
>> Weirdo.
>> He was exactly who I thought he would be. He wasn't any worse, any better. It was just like, oh, okay. So, >> at least there's that. Yep.
>> But Amanda is coming in thinking like she's really actually thinking. And I think it's cuz she was reading some of the cuz they had a few people commenting on the social media things like, "Oh, it wasn't a big deal. West and Sierra weren't even together, whatever." And I feel like they were either either they were the people writing those comments or they were seeing those comments and being like, "Right, see, okay, it was so she also came into this reunion forgetting that Sierra should be sad and that she should have been sad that she was getting with someone Sierra was with. She was like, "Guys, none of you have ever done this before."
>> What answer was she expecting everyone to say? Oh, yeah. You know what? Last week I did do that. You're right. Yep.
>> Because like Amanda, we're already here.
We're already upset. You are way too late. Obviously, if one of them could relate to you, they would have by now, >> right? Whether it was publicly or in your like text messages, someone would have said something. But no, sis, what are we talking about?
>> She's like, "Oh, okay. Got it. So, I'm I have to be single forever. I'm like, why do you keep forgetting? Like, she's so proud. I'm putting that in quotes, of having not had an affair on Kyle technically, but I don't believe that. I believe that this emotional affair was going on much longer than they're trying to say, >> right?
>> And and like I I think we're going to get more next week from the because we that audio leak that came out that the first one, the only one I heard.
>> Yeah. um where where they were talking about like why that statement the statement was this whole big thing right and it's in the audio leak you hear Amanda's the reasoning they rushed the statement was because they were being threatened with some video >> now they cut that part from the reunion because it would I'm like doesn't that contradict then what they're saying about how like after the statement is when we finally had sex but it's like I thought you said you put the statement out in order to get ahead of this video that was very intimate, >> right? That's what Thank God like the internet and everyone like bringing all these clips up to remind people like, "Uh, no, that is not what you said. It was this and that." Like, no, you're not going to gaslight me into thinking that I need to at some point like be okay with the type of [ __ ] that West and Amanda do. Like, I'm sorry. you you I think sometimes networks forget that we're like fully grown adults and fully like you well not all of us but some like watching this show like we're fully grown adults watching these shows and like my opinion can't be shaped by something because you want me to watch a different show like no I'll watch them and hate them on there too like what do you mean like if I don't like you I don't like you it's not a big thing like you're not going to shape my opinion because you you think it'd be better if she came across a certain way when I know the reality of the situation. Like, no, that's not going to happen.
>> Well, also like what it contradicts it.
I hope that they addressed this in the reunion when they filmed it at least because >> she just got done giving you guys some [ __ ] timeline of when they like first kissed and when they first whatever, but then when the statement, which was rushed, which also let's focus on the statement for a second, okay?
because >> we we were like we a lot of us blamed West for it being a bad statement, but the way Amanda was very defensive of the statement makes me think that she was actually the author of said statement, >> which so she'd been like, so let's just go through what Amanda had been [ __ ] doing at that point. She had been getting texts from Sierra >> as far back as J as far back as January.
>> Mhm.
>> And was being and Sierra was asking. She was completely denying. Mhm.
>> Then at some point the connection starts growing. She's still like kind of texting Sierra like, "Oh my god, everyone's just being crazy. I can't even do I can't even exist anymore without people analyzing what I'm doing."
>> And then at some point all of these rumors start coming out, receipts getting put online, and it's there's a there was actually no one was expecting them to make a statement to be honest.
No one was expecting that at all.
>> Right.
Uh, so when Amanda had already been going back and forth with Sierra saying like, "No, nothing's happening." Then they craft this statement together, her and West.
>> Mhm.
>> And then they she texts every single person on the cast an apology text, including Sierra, which it's like, well, no, no, no.
>> Right. You already had a dialogue going with her about this topic that like I would just think the very first person you would call would be Sierra.
>> Exactly.
>> And then you go and craft the statement because >> she like did it so defensively. The statement was like, "Okay, fine guys.
Fine. You're right. We have a connection." But it's like we weren't expecting this to come out until after In the City finale.
Like I think she had this whole thing planned out like timing wise for her thinking like okay well if I'm on in the city and I'm not with Kyle anymore I can't also be with West and also next week by the way I'm in the city there's some sit down with Amanda West and Sierra >> where it's just so like this whole thing she was she was so irritated that we that someone figured out her plan before she was ready to like announce it >> and the stupid statement comes out like Carl says who was the statement more.
>> Exactly. Put a name to it. Put a name to it.
>> Like I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't.
>> Can I say kudos to Sierra? I think cuz I I'm I'm very uh similar to Sierra in this regard. I think a lot of people need to adopt what Sierra did because people like to play this game where they do this whole semantics thing. Well, well, no, no, no. What you asked me was and then what I said was so technically I'm not a liar. that thing. Sierra explicitly in those text messages asked Amanda. She said, "Okay, so there will be no photos, no video, nothing that will ever come out that's going to prove that you guys have been together for this amount of time because all of these things happening." We always say one thing could be a coincidence. Too many things happening together is not a damn coincidence. That's a lot of lies that have finally caught up to your ass. And so I love that you finally you have to sometimes people especially if you know somebody and you know they love to do their semantics game. You got to call that [ __ ] out. You got to get your evidence down on paper and say so what you're saying is this confirm or deny.
What you just said actually made me realize that that's also partly why Amanda had to craft her fake timeline because she knew she had sent >> that text to Sierra where she because she's like at that time nothing was happening >> right >> because she said correct then after that like later was like and I lied to you I did I lied or something like that so she was also the location sharing thing the only reason she thought to turn off her location at all was because Sierra was trying to call her that night when she was at West's and she was like, "Oh, she knows I'm here. She has my location."
>> Yes. I'm so glad this cast was like all on one accord pretty much because everyone is clocking in. They're like, "No, you didn't." She's like, "I'm I'm a single woman and I just want to live my life. I don't want everyone looking at my location." They're like, "No, because you're doing bad [ __ ] That's why you don't want people looking at your location." Like, stop trying to make all of us think that we're idiots. Exactly.
>> Yeah. But she's like, "You're not the only people I share my location with."
Okay.
>> So, I didn't want everyone knowing where I was. No, we got it. We got why you turned off your location, >> right?
>> But what is it? Because you don't want these people who've had it for all these years to have it. We know why. Like, you didn't explain anything. You just repeated what we already knew back to us as if we were stupid.
>> Because let's let's assume that like you did just want this like you wanted a break. you wanted to go off on your own and people not know what you're doing, all this kind of stuff. Sierra on camera has been heavily team Amanda when it comes to like Kyle's not doing you right. If you need a place to stay, you come stay with me. I support you 100%.
If she sees on your location that you're at someone's house multiple times over the like next whatever, why does that matter? That means that you're not with Kyle. It only matters if you're with someone like West who she was involved with in the past. Like let's not be dense here, Amanda.
>> Exactly.
Like so all the other locations you were at was she's like but then but then that's when she's like I have other friends guys.
>> And they're like no you don't.
>> Literally literally they're like who? Name them.
>> Like oh your friend Katie. Okay cool.
Like that's it. And then she when she said [ __ ] off to Sierra >> that was insane. That was in it just showed that it was like seething. It was brewing right below the surface. She was just like, I hate >> that I have that you're the victim. Cuz she had someone I think Kyle responded to this comment and he said this is what he thinks has probably happened too is that West >> saw the writing on the wall for Amanda and Kyle and that Amanda was going to come out like the Ariana of the season because we were going to be like, "Yes, queen. You're going to leave Kyle now >> blah blah blah." And so that's also part of what West was like gearing towards was like I'll be attached to this person. I'll also be really like comforting her and it'll look like I'm totally an ally and like I'll be on the right side of this whole, you know, feud that's going to be happening for this coming season as they were filming it. I bet he was like, I see where this is going. Mhm.
>> But then it backfired on them so badly and they're trying to like backtrack all the very clear planning and discussion that they did do. Like you guys weren't clueless, >> right?
>> Like they tried to be like it was just two people that suddenly looked at each other one day and were like going on here, >> right?
>> And she kept thinking like, right, you've all been there, right? You've been there. It's like no no you're look you're saying this to the woman who he was with on and off >> for a lot of well actually I bet I bet I bet Amanda and Wes had a conversation or right yeah men and Wes had a conversation where it was like you were only with Sierra for like a few months and wasn't serious and like she was having that conversation a lot with Wes and like really hyping each other up like that >> but like that's not a good look. So then she had to like try to change narratives when she got to the reunion because she was seeing all the backlash, but like she doesn't have it in her.
>> It's not what she feels.
>> Nope. The truth ain't in her. And that's the thing, too, cuz she sat there with Sierra like these past couple years listening to things about Wes and how she feels and all like that. And all it takes is West. It's like Lindsay said.
She said, "You're good. You're good. You can take things to girls and make them believe the [ __ ] that's coming out of your mouth." And so his voice started to become way louder than Sierra's because she didn't want Sierra's to be a loud voice anyway in the first place.
That's what y'all keep the clock. Okay.
She didn't take the lady seriously in the first place. She wanted to take Wes way more seriously. Why? Girl, I'll never know. But she wanted to take him a lot more seriously. Amanda's problem, she came into this reunion acting like it was a court of law when she really forgot that it was like it's the court of public opinion. like we're watching this show. The court of opinion is in that room right now. You don't have to like win a civil suit. So like I don't know what this defense is you're putting on, but like all of it is not landing, mama.
>> No, no, I totally agree. I was going to say something before you got on that topic. So you had said something about the way I Dang it. It's already gone. I got I got to start writing it down when I think it and then let you talk because then it's already gone. That's the re any anytime I ever interrupt you, Kendrick, it's because I'm worried I'm gonna forget whatever thought.
>> It's probably when I said something because you had a look on your face when I said um Oh, [ __ ] You know, my memor is just >> now I know we're both we're useless.
We're both We're both useless. When one of us forgets, it's over. It's shut up.
>> When Sierra said uh when I said that uh she didn't want to take Sierra's voice as a louder voice. She wanted to only hear Wes's voice.
>> Well, well done.
>> Look at us.
>> This You've done that a lot recently, actually. Your your your memory is good.
I think actually I think you've done I don't know what you've done over there.
>> Beat these damn beat gummies. Come on beat. I don't think they do anything for memory but come on beat gummies >> something like damn. There we go. Um, so when when Amanda said when because when Sierra was like, "Why would you be at West's house?"
>> And when Amanda said, "Because he was there for me, >> it was like you [ __ ] of all the things to say to Sierra." It's like, >> "Right."
>> And then that's why when Mia is like, "Why are you prioritizing West over and over Sierra?" And she's like, "I wasn't.
I wasn't." Yeah, you literally were.
>> You literally were. You have two friends that were both there for you. Sierra even more so.
>> Mhm.
>> And you weren't answering Sierra's calls because you were with West clearly forming your connection.
>> Uhhuh.
>> Why else would you be avoiding I also when Sierra was like, "How many times have I called you to try to go out with you and you act like your phone doesn't work?" That was such a You are busted.
>> Uhhuh.
>> Busted. Having to get other people involved, getting put in group chats because you won't answer your phone for just one person. The person. Oh yeah, babe. Sorry. Yep. You're clocked.
>> Yeah, >> you're clocked.
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>> Uh Mia did a great job. Mia was just effortless.
>> She just had her back perfectly and also like answered all her stuff. Well, loved it.
>> Amanda had no comeback for that um side [ __ ] comment either.
>> No, like it it was so it was like so smooth. It was such a savage read, but like >> all and all Amanda could question.
>> It was like okay like she kind of couldn't >> she's like I really can't deny that that's exactly I mean but that is >> right. Hey, Amanda was like, "Okay, [ __ ] You ain't that. You ain't that a little bit. I'll give you that one."
>> Oh, damn.
>> Because as they're describing like West with Miha and how he's like classic.
He's like, "We're not boyfriend girlfriend.
>> We were not boyfriend." Oh, well, she thought you guys were. And that's exact.
That seems to be a pattern here that you >> let women think it's more serious, I guess, than you really feel like it is.
And like, and then he acts all weirded out when he's like, "Well, I mean, not really." Like we weren't honey I mean I guess kind of you know just so >> nice kind of man.
>> He really is the funny ones. The funny I cuz I always like the funny ones too.
>> They're the they can they can be the darkest >> of all.
>> Uhhuh.
>> And it's because humor will really get you. Humor will get it works. It's very effective, which is >> makes everyone think you're their friend, but then really you start thinking more because they start doing little things extra. And then, oh go, oh, well, you know, he does this for me.
He does that. We love each other. Oh my gosh, we're just so good. And also, oh no, that never happened. That never happened. What are you talking about?
No, we're not this. We're not that. Oh, why have you been inside of me every night sleeping at my house this and that for God knows how long now, meeting my parents, doing all that? Like, don't be [ __ ] weird, Wes. Like, get the [ __ ] out of here. That required a fan.
>> I know. And I'm hot, too. So, let's >> I know. I see you using your fan. I'm like, is this this is like a like a practical fan for Kendrick today?
>> My oven's on. My AC is on, but my oven's also on. You know, my den is very close to my oven, so I'm like, "Oh, God."
>> Yep. Yep. Yep. But when we get our when we get our fanges.
>> Yes. Come on, Fe.
>> Come on, Fanie. No, seriously, that's gonna be fun.
>> Yes.
>> Um, all right. What else happened? Uh oh. When when Kyle said to Sierra >> Mhm.
>> that was harsh when she gave that like one I was like Kyle you don't piss me off [ __ ] mouth >> right.
>> Here's my theory. I said it already on my episode but here's my theory. I think >> part of that was because Kyle realized that was majorly a dig in him.
>> Yeah.
>> She's like she he's going to want someone weak who doesn't stand up who lets him be the star. And that's perfect. And Kyle's like, "Oh, that was me. She just described my relationship."
So that I I I didn't like that he said that was harsh at all. But I feel like part of it was like, "Fuck, that was about me."
>> Right.
>> Right.
>> It was a It was because it was a commentary on you. And when because when you think about you're like, "Yep, that's all the stuff that Amanda did for Kyle.
>> That's it.
So it >> um I watching In the City right after this is where it's like unless it's going to be unless there's going to be something on in the city that has to do with this situation. I'm not as excited, which is horrible for them because >> it's like when the reunion is on and then we go to like in the city, which is all these months before, I'm like I unless it's like more with Sierra and West and Amanda and Kyle and all that.
I I just I'm coming off such a high, >> right? I literally thread it. I was like, >> I know I'm watching In the City, but like I'm still like what I'm actually doing while it's on is like looking at other threads about the Summerhouse reunion cuz like I'm not pay the only time I like partially paid attention during that episode was when um uh weird ass Kenny and Lindsay got into it. Like that was really the only time. Like other than that, I don't no I And then plus we're still very early in the show.
I think that was episode what three maybe >> two. Oh, episode two. See, I still don't know many people's names cuz you know they're trying to we know like the Danielle's and the the Owens and whatever. But we know like these people, but like you know, we're still meeting some of these new guys and they're trying to focus on bringing in the new people like to the front and center. And it's not where like we just got to learn like K Michelle and Pinky who we pretty much already know. We got to learn like eight people and it's like oh baby give me till after the reunion and I promise I'll start to like >> a very good point. That's a very good point. It's like there's too many new people for me to retain and follow because there's so much that happens like I have to that reunion was incredible. Like it was so well edited, you know, like the the the beginning where it's an in the city confessional that Lindsay's doing and then Kai like Kyle comes in here they are in front of the green screen reading the statement >> then I don't know who I don't know if it was just coincidence that Jesse was calling and Mia was calling but then or a producer was like we're going to have Jesse and Mia call you guys because then they got him on this like fiveway phone call >> literally >> all talking about it when the news came out like you know cuz part I think part of what makes that so exciting is that we remember where we were >> when the statement first came out and so like to know that like like the cast was just as blown away >> right I love the fact that Lindsay was sitting on that literally like Lindsay was going about her day she's like can you see my pit stains like what's going on >> and then Kyle comes in and all like goes to hell she's like oh >> I know cuz I want to know like I I because at first they weren't going to have her do last looks like they were like no your lips are fine but then like I she either she insisted on it or something but I'm wondering if like Kyle was like hey wait the statement just came out and they're like shut up >> and he's like can I go can I go talk to Lindsay and they're like uh yeah >> go right now go right now we're rolling >> exactly >> so yeah dude I know it was it was very well edited I also was I was surprised by Carl's energy I didn't really understand like why He had been given this like Carl's a mess and whatever, but he was very like >> he was just disappointed. Like that was like he was disappointed dad.
>> He cuz I feel like he really has like a different kind of relationship with Sierra. And I think the general consensus kind of is right. The general consensus kind of is like I feel like people think that he hasn't really seen it for West for a long time. And so I think Yeah, I think he's finally starting to like let that out. Oh, he's like, "Why the hell am I next to this guy?" Like, losers. Goodness.
>> Yeah. He was very disappointed. He's like, "I guess I'm next to West."
>> Same. Cuz why am I over here?
>> Why am I here next to West, >> right? Him and KJ were probably like, "Uh, like I know I came in with him, but like, yeah, gross."
>> Oh god. KJ though. Oh my god.
>> Okay, so are KJ and Dara broken up? I can't tell.
>> He put out a statement too that was like I'm Whenever someone says I'm focusing on something.
>> Okay. That was that a video that you're talking about?
>> I think so.
>> Okay. I got I post I shared that in my stories and a bunch of people like this is actually from like last year.
>> Oh, okay.
>> Pissed me off because it's like they shouldn't they should put that disclaimer because it's not an update on their breakup. It's just him having a conversation about totally different. So that's I saw the same thing fell for that as well. But the part that really got me was that he released a song with Jara. What's happening? Is something happening in the chat?
>> Oh, no. I was just looking. I thought someone because I saw KJ. I was like, "Oh, wait. Are people telling us like what the answer is? I didn't know." But no.
>> Yeah. They don't They don't follow They don't f They stopped following each other. Um but the next or a couple days later, he puts out a song with a music video attached and she's in the music video >> and it's about like, you know, it's like a love song, like a sexy song. And so I don't know if it was just like buzz to get people talking before he released it, >> right, >> or something because it was just very strange like they were she was just like commenting on stuff and they were at an event together and then overnight they unfollowed each other.
>> Um but then they put out the music video.
>> Krispy Bacon said, "Yeah, but he didn't tag her." I wonder if that was >> I noticed that too. I noticed that too.
I noticed but he didn't tag her. I was like look I like tapped it like is she tagged because that's very interesting but like you know >> oh wait he he continued he said and all her tags are gone and uh his on her page. They're saying the rumor is KJ blocked her cuz that will be the easiest way to get rid of all those tags. So >> whoa.
So what is that? Did Okay, now see I was about to go down a dark path. I'm not going to do that. I was about to say did Listen, Wes makes his rounds. I don't know. I'm just saying we don't want to assume nothing cuz I think we all thought they she was a good one. So, I don't know. I'm not going to put that on her.
>> Uhuh.
That would be a mess cuz we already found out about Mia this week. Like, we don't need Mia the same as uh sorry, Mia Southern Hospitality. We don't need her, you know, getting with West too. And we Okay, we're losing bad [ __ ] by the dozen. Goodness. Wait, do you watch Southern Have you caught up on Southern Hospitality?
>> Weirdly enough, I watched this season on and off, but you know, Mia was in the audience. I was talking to her in the audience when she was um that watched What Happens Live. I had no idea who they were at that point, though. I'm like, "Who does this man?" But I literally asking Cara Barry. I'm like, "Well, she's really pretty. Who is she?"
She's like, "Oh, that's Mia." Everyone loves Mia. I'm like, "She's gorgeous."
>> Yes. I'm like, "Hi, Bad [ __ ] Mia."
Okay. She like literally came out with all the energy, too. Like as if she was on stage, but like she was walking to the audience and everyone was like hyping her up. I'm like, "Okay, sis, I see you."
>> She She is like totally a star. I've I I've been in and out watching the season because it started to feel like they were just like so young to me.
>> Like Lake.
>> Yes.
>> Like they're just so young. And I was like, I feel kind of weird judging these people cuz you know, like Michael's so young. I just felt so so young and like it was becoming very messy and I just felt like I don't need to judge this. I don't know. I don't know.
>> Can I You'll probably notice a trend with me. I don't know why it's it's always been like this too cuz like I' I've fought against Jersey Shore for a long time like when it was airing.
Something about reality TV and young people. I don't know what it is, but when it's a certain I I I' I've never figured out why I am like that, but like, you know, I I didn't watch um what's it called with Candy Bird's Daughter. I mean, Raleigh and um >> Oh, um [ __ ] what's it called?
>> For the city. No, >> now I'm like now I'm calling it In the City, >> right? That show though, whatever that is.
>> That show with like the NextGen. Next gen and >> NextGen. There we go. That and like all like all the stuff that like Lane's Young. I I want to like I always say I'm going to catch up. I'm going to catch up. But then something was like an older cast will come out. I just feel like that's I don't know if I because they're just as messy. So I'm like I don't know what it is. But young people reality TV with the exception of like for some reason. But it doesn't matter with Zeus though because I'll watch like Baddies or Bad Boys like I won't watch like >> or Love Island.
>> Or Love Island. Exactly. I don't know what that thing is. I don't know.
>> Yeah. No, I just it started to feel like I didn't need to be dissecting like their behavior so much. You know what I mean? Like I was I was such a psychopath when I was at their their ages and I was like I feel like this shouldn't even be documented or something. I don't know >> exactly like Love Island like men are terrible at all ages. So I'm like, "Oh, I can judge this. That's >> terrible."
>> Like we know we we know what you're going to do. You're going to see blondes going to come through there. You're going to forget all about that brunette and you're going to go over to her.
Totally. It's okay. We know how this goes.
>> You know, you're right. And it's also not There's just something very different about a doc you follow versus like a competition or a show like that where they're like these really strange circumstances that they wouldn't normally be in if they weren't filming the show.
>> Exactly.
>> You know, as opposed to like this is their real life. They're walking around New York and doing whatever. It's like just a different It's I agree. There's something different in that.
>> Right. I'm going break down this psychology. I'mma break it down. break.
>> Yeah.
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