This video discusses how vulnerable individuals, particularly young people, can be manipulated by older individuals who exploit their emotional or financial needs. The speakers explain that people in vulnerable situations—such as those experiencing trauma, financial difficulties, or emotional instability—are more susceptible to manipulation through tactics like offering material goods, attention, or false promises. The discussion emphasizes that recognizing these patterns is crucial for protecting oneself and others from exploitation, and that individuals should seek closure and support through direct communication rather than relying on others to mediate their situations.
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Things go left between pinkynotes & FunkyDee on Chronik's live 👀🍿🔥🧋Added:
[music] [music] >> I got this. I got this. I got this couple of things. First of all, yeah, your mate, yeah, Funky D, this is what your mate said, yeah? Your mate, wait, wait, wait, wait. Your mate went on this platform and said this chronic, yeah? He said, yeah, that she could have been on RTM before me. She knew you and you Spray before me. Go to his video and watch it. That's what he said. But wait, but wait, chronic. You're going to buy her Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I can clarify that that's true, though, cuz what I can remember, like I just said to you, I forget [snorts] bare things.
>> wait, wait, wait, wait, hold up, chronic. Hold up, chronic. Hold up, chronic, yeah? So, if I'm such a weirdo, yeah, for knowing her when she was 19 or 20 Yeah, no one knew her BEFORE YOU. ALL RIGHT, THEN. SHE'S GOT FAMILY MEMBERS that didn't know her before you. All right, then. Do you know what I'm trying to say? BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING MADNESSES.
SPRAY KNEW HER BEFORE YOU. CHRONIC KNEW her before you. DOES CHRONIC KNOW YOU?
BECAUSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW I'M SUCH A SCUMBAG FOR KNOWING her at 19, WHEN THE [ __ ] DID YOU AND SPRAY know her?
Was she 17? Was she What are you saying? It's not illegal.
IT'S NOT ILLEGAL. YOU CLOWN. IT'S NOT ILLEGAL. It's just not No, that's the first thing. No, that's the first thing I have to say.
HE THREW EVERYONE UNDER THE BUS. THAT'S THE first thing.
That's the first thing, yeah? Second thing is, yeah, how can I groom somebody at 19, yeah, when they're saying on the show that it was [ __ ] 22-year-olds at 15? But was it consensually? The No, no, wait, wait, wait, WAIT. THAT'S STATUTORY RAPE ANYWAY. THAT'S STATUTORY RAPE ANYWAY. EXACTLY.
SO, IT DEPENDS. I CAN ANSWER both of those questions. One, it Wait, wait, wait, wait, before you answer that, chronic, yeah? Before you answer that, yeah? And how many 22-year-olds, yeah, was there from 15, yeah, [laughter] to 19, yeah? But how many?
Because Do you know what? I'm going to stop.
Yeah, but continuing the the grooming is is that all right?
>> [laughter] >> If someone's being abused >> [cough] >> and they've been abused but you continue the line of abuse like you know or can't believe that chap from the songs so local. Passion knows Passion said it can't happen twice. Like you can't be No, it can happen twice.
It can. When you don't know this is I'm a vulnerable adult remember.
groomed into more than you was Oh my god, I'm not done. All right, all right, can I can I ask you some questions?
Um did he have a Miguel on your on his stage yeah saying yeah that uh um she wore um slit um someone um that you brought into this world's um throat.
I said the undertaker's here. We've been this has been it's like it's been like hell it's like it's so old news like I don't even know like when and you're not even answering to anything that you said cuz you said Chronic and Spray you have before. I did I I I thought it is can you answer that question Chronic please? All the questions to me. Chronic and Spray know her. Can you answer that question please Chronic? I asked you answer the question again. We want to know whether Spray and Chronic Yes. Chronic how many times did you how many times did you have on his stage yeah did he facilitate people on his stage cussing you and he was just there just staying on mute when they were talking about you and stuff.
Yes.
>> [laughter] >> Hey but do you not see Hey Chronic Chronic Chronic do you not see Chronic do you not see that the same pattern is from like spaces where we've been here before where people done that before and then just talk about what you said on your video. You said by then come back and then come back and then come back and then come back and then come back and then come back and then come back and then come back and then come back and then You said that girl A thousand times in spaces and Chronic and Spray knew her before me. When did he know Have you not seen that he said He called her Spray. Kenny. I need to go on Chronic's [laughter] stage. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Did they little One second. Did she know Chronic and Spray before me? If it's buying, is this buying? Is buying her stuff?
>> No, no, it's not buying. Relax, Tara.
Relax.
Hold on. Hold on. I feel Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um Knowing them before me. There's two screens there, yeah?
Oh my god, cuz I can hear Pinky in my left ear and Funky in my right ear. I'm like You can't answer the Chronic. He said on his video, it's on YouTube, you and Spray knew the girl before me.
Answer that. What who what the the HPK? Yes, he's a liar. Answer it. I don't I don't If I put it on my YouTube and play it right now with his tone up, thinking he's saying something stupid. So it only matters to you, Pinky, cuz you was in a relationship with her. I don't think they That's cute, Tara. No, I'm not being rude. I'm just saying >> it. That's cute. I said that's cute, but it's not cute. Cuz I was in no relationship with anybody.
>> Okay, you was doing a situation with her.
>> with anybody.
>> When you do these type of things with people, when they say things, they either it does create a sensitivity.
That's what I was going to say. You don't have to be on the fence, yeah? I was just going to say is when you do things like when people that you once had a situationship with is now with other people, right? It it you're going to have a sensitivity, and I can see the sensitivity, but these don't obviously really care about her because they they like she obviously is nothing to them apart from >> I care. I care about the Jenny Kiss One.
No, on a but she's a work colleague to you guys or or an [laughter] acquaintance. I don't know. But do you get what I mean? It's fine to have the still however you're feeling cuz you know what I mean? But >> No, no, we're we're we're we're we're we're protecting her now. We've got her.
They can't No one can abuse her again.
She's over here.
>> that's what I'm saying.
Even saying that is just crazy to think that uh that she was okay [laughter] with getting with 22-year-olds. Of course something wrong was happening. Do you know what I mean? Where I don't know I've not heard what she said or anything like that, but of course whatever was happening when she was young is not right. So, it doesn't Of course you can still woo her even though I don't believe you did. I don't believe that at all. But >> Okay.
>> You can still woo her at this age. You can get You can get wooed anything. If you have a vulnerability, like if you wanted to join the feds and you was in debt, you could not join the feds in debt because they'd say, "Oh, if now someone comes to you saying that they'd give you 1 1 million to release them or do whatever, you will cuz you're in debt." Do you get my mindset?
That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah, I hear I hear what you're at with it. You know the wickedest [ __ ] Obviously, I was just passing through here, innit?
And my thing was this, yeah? I can't believe someone tried to act like some vulnerable young person, but you're on RTM showing us the real goon that you are, yeah? I can't believe someone tried to act like, "Oh, yeah, they were so vulnerable and this that and that this and oh, yeah, that was the first grooming you was around when you walked a whole lot of men that are older than you way before me, yeah? So, how can I groom somebody that's already been How old are you again, sorry? Let me not go mad. Let me not go mad. Hey, bro, you you were literally going with I came You were literally [laughter] going with she was 19 20 years old, yeah? I came I came You were literally leaving a girl after a trauma thing happened to her where someone only knows how >> You're lying again. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Let me tell you where you're lying from.
Let me tell you where you're lying from.
Let me tell you where you're lying from.
That's just [ __ ] bro. I know Let me tell you where you're lying Funky, let me tell you where you're lying from. I know everything, bro. Funky, let me tell >> Was tell saying that the same time after she got hurt by Tommy, bro? Bro, let me tell you why you're lying. I don't even know who Tommy is, but anyone that's on TikTok, they know Tommy guy was there.
Was Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up.
>> with her case yet and trying to get Tommy locked up? Yes.
What do you mean yes? Was you there? Are you No, >> [laughter] >> but cuz when Tommy got hurt, ANYBODY ANYBODY UP NO, BUT BECAUSE WHEN TOMMY DESCRIBED NO, NO, NO, NO. WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? Tommy said Farah talk up the things, bro. Tommy described you to me, Pinky.
>> [laughter] >> It was a situation. He said something about oh, she said she's going to the brother's house or something like that.
And he described you to me. This was obviously very early on. Like very like >> Pinky, I've got the receipts. You can't get out [laughter] of this. You strangled the girl. I'm not saying that you helped him get locked up, but yeah.
>> You strangled her in your house, bro.
I've seen the video. I've got the pictures. She had a knife in her hand in the video. I could have buried you from the animal abuse.
She had Pinky, I let you live, bro. What do you think? I let you live. But anyway, anyway, I Pinky, when Alice said that you strangled her, the only reason why you went about running and cuz you didn't even let the police put charges on you, right? Let's talk about Let's talk about You're a drunk clown, bro. You're a woman beater, bro.
But you never had none of this for Justin when Justin >> [laughter] >> did all of these things. All you just kept on doing was talking about talking about different things. You didn't even let me land on the first thing. So, you see where you were saying you were the leader of a gang.
No gang leader does that. I don't know why you look I ain't talking about any of that. I'm talking about I know the [ __ ] you talking about. You know everything about the You are the lion.
Exactly.
I don't know why you keep muting me.
This is mods. This is not him. This is mods. Pinky, you're a drunk clown, bro.
You're a drunk clown. I'm not saying that you I'm a drunk clown, bro.
You don't even have your own YouTube channel. You're begging it with me. Can you show me a flyer You're begging it with me for the longest time. Pinky, can you show me a flyer that you've been on, please?
Can I see one flyer with your name on it? I don't know what you're talking about.
I'm not lying.
Pinky, you're just a walking skid mark, bro.
Bro, you got disarmed, bro.
Can we talk about some of the things that are being said, or we just got to let them fly?
You know what? You know what? You know what? I'm not falling into this discussion. I'm not falling into this discussion. ANYWAY PINKY, PINKY YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS GUY told me he was a guy HBK said that um Tommy is in jail for arming HBK.
At the time there, Pinky was helping HBK lock Tommy up. I'm just letting you lot know that, yeah. I'm just letting you lot know.
support All right. All right. He was supporting her. This is the guy that I've ever met in my life. He was banging someone that was a victim. Didn't rat out on that person, but instead was making her talk to people.
>> can't rat out if he's in prison. No. No.
No. No. No. But what I'm trying to say is here, he's saying that he's a gang leader, so he should have connections, shouldn't he? No, but he got arrested.
No, but he should have connections, shouldn't he?
You're just a liar, bro.
Hold up. You're just a clown, bro.
You're a clown, bro. Bro, I've heard about you. Once you said you're a nobody in your area, bro.
I I once the ball I've told you that you're a nobody in your area, bro.
So, anyway, went to the background in the next day, bro. You're a degrading kid, bro.
I told this guy This I told her. This guy done bullied on HBK.
The guy that is day that this guy got knicked here.
You guy was here, right? He's four years older than me. This guy is a mess. Green light. Hot and up the thing where they both get time to speak. I don't know Yeah, that thing. That thing.
You know there was a guy There was a guy called Tommy. He was on Tik Tok. Tommy allegedly, obviously, he's in jail now for Arin HBK.
He was seeing HBK at them times. He was helping her put Tommy in the jail.
That's what he was doing, yeah? He was discussing everything with her. You know why? Cuz she was vulnerable. So, if she is 20 and she's 22, 23, whatever age she is now, he was seeing her when she was 20. This girl was in hospital laying in the bed. He had her cradled in her arms saying, "I want to be with you so badly.
Oh, I want a kid with you. I want all these things with this girl that he says, "Oh, he was just linking her. It was a situationship." But, remember last year, you know that when I said that he was linking this um young thing HBK. He said she was made up and I'm chatting rubbish. This guy is a piece of [ __ ] this little pagan.
All right, yeah.
So, first of all, yeah? You see this little idiot, he chats so much [ __ ] [ __ ] he's a liar. He told everybody on the internet Chronic and Spray knew her before me. When did they know her? Which Was she 17? Was she 18? You can't answer that, you [ __ ] You can't answer nothing. You're chatting [ __ ] Answer that, [ __ ] Next time you come up, answer that first and foremost. Let's start there, yeah? You [ __ ] liar, yeah? You're a compulsive [ __ ] liar.
You come on the internet, you chat [ __ ] Now, let me tell you about Tommy. You see the day Tommy got nicked? You do know she came here with Tommy, right?
Yeah? You do know that Tommy, yeah, was supposed to rape her the day before that. You see when she came here, Tommy was downstairs. You think she said to me, "Oh my god, Tommy on me." I would have got him the [ __ ] up out of it. I wouldn't have even asked no questions.
She didn't say a goddamn thing. She went left with Tommy and on the way home they argued and then they fought and that's how Tommy got nicked, you [ __ ] That's the first of all, yeah? You don't know nothing. You was just talking. I was there. You talking about, "Oh, I was linking her after she was in a vulnerable situation." I was linking her before that. How about that? You nerd.
You [ __ ] idiot. The [ __ ] Um Pinky, what Pinky said was correct.
But, that's why I'm saying how I know that you guys wasn't Pinky Don't [clears throat] do that, bro. Pinky, you are just a drunk on Echo Fools on Lambrini mascot. Let me tell you something about yourself. You thought you was bigger than the program, and that's where you're in this position now. You have gone backwards. How can you go from being on the platform RTM to someone that has to react on stuff on RTM? Someone that has to beg it with every single person, but I thought you don't know Chronic. Cuz I remember you saying to Justo, "Oh, I don't even really even know Chronic like that."
When Justo was asked you, you you in the ease um friendship. Do you remember that part? Do you remember when Dolly um did dashed you off her stage and said, "I was only Chronic was right. I was only using you to get to Chronic, yeah, but you just was just trying to get into my pants." And then she told you to SYM and dashed you off her stage. Oh, let me do a better one. Do you remember when you had Thrillery dissing Chronic on your stage? And Thrillery was saying all these things, and you were trying to have a date with Thrillery.
Oh, um yeah, that's how I knew it was true because uh Tommy described Pinky to me. Obviously, this is before I knew what Tommy was got arrested for because they said when I actually did go and see Tommy, it was apparent that he got arrested for cuz he cut his tag off or something like that. He was trying to leave. Um but yeah, he described Pinky to me. But, I wouldn't say that Pinky helped him get in prison. I'd say that he supported H8RUK for a bad time-ish. I don't know how it actually was, but yeah, that's all I um had to say. But Pinky, it's not actually that deep, yeah? As I said, because where she's someone that you've gone through a situationship from, it's it seemed quite a lot for you when nobody It's not really a lot for everybody else. But channel the emotions, try have some closure, try and have a conversation with her instead of everybody else.
Slow down.
Fara is actually jokes, innit? Yeah.
>> [laughter] >> Listen, yeah.
This is what I'm saying.
I need to get to speak again, but this is what I'm saying. But Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, yeah? I still You see all now, yeah, like shake all that stuff about the actual Tommy case. I don't know nothing about the Tommy case. I didn't know who he kicked out.
I didn't She said That needs to go around a couple times.
There's a lot of things that need to be answered. Go on. Anyway, so like I was saying, yeah, I Yeah, you've never heard this girl come out and say I helped her write a statement. I I don't know what she said in court. I don't know uh what she said on the stand. I don't know I still don't know what even happened in this grape. Like did he pull out a knife and tell you to back off your trousers? Did he I don't know no details. I've never had no involvement in anything to do with this case. If this girl, like I said, had told me when Tommy was downstairs from my house, this guy XYZ, you think I'm telling her, "Yeah, let's go to police."
And that's what you think I'm telling her? What the [ __ ] So all this anguish is just cap. It's just nonsense. It's just It's just nonsense. But cool, I get it. Sounds good. It sounds great. Woo woo. Like bro, when I phoned this girl one time, yeah, I phoned her late night one time and I said, "Yo, are you up? She said oh yeah, I've got a boyfriend now. I was like cool. I never asked her to pull up again. So the last time the next time I saw her was that day when he got nicked.
What the [ __ ] >> [snorts and clears throat] >> Bro, every single time yeah, you violate Addy, do you not see that everything always gets explained and everything always gets baited up. You just don't understand bro and that's just it. It doesn't matter and he knows the truth.
HPK knows the truth. Tommy knows the truth and anyone that was on Tik Tok them times there, they know the truth bro and that's what you got to lay with.
You're someone that ain't got no morals.
You're someone that doesn't know the meaning of a friend and I told you this from the first time I ever spoke to you until now. You're just disloyal bro and that's just in your blood and not mine and that is it. You have to hide behind people. I don't need to hide behind anyone when I speak. I speak for myself.
I don't need to say oh it's chronic da da da da da da da da da da da da or it's Torah da da da da da da da. I just talk to you and I tell you about yourself and that is just it. You're a woman beater.
You got to lay with being a woman beater and that is it my bro.
I don't have anything more to say apart from I definitely think it's it's a bit of a sensitive type subject to talk about.
>> do you want to say? No, I do think though if you're going to be talk like that is Can I speak? That is her private situation and she's not actually here to defend herself or say whatever >> Yeah, she's here. She's here. She's on the FYB.
No, but I mean like I don't know. I do feel weird talking about someone else's like >> I'm not talking about her. Get her out of here.
But um I've got who feels comfortable to talk about talk talk. No, but do you know what I mean? Like it's a it's a bit of a thing but Pinky Listen.
You know what I'm saying yeah?
Like I'm a woman beater ain't it yeah?
Okay, cool. That sounds great. Uh-huh.
You see when that's what he just said, didn't he? I'm saying you when I'm in my crib, yeah, and women are pulling out weapons, and they're doing certain things, yeah. I tried to de-escalate the situation. I tried to restrain them.
You're going to run with the narrative because you see with Funky, yeah, he started, yeah, his segment with "Huh, Pinky's broke. Pinky no notes. Oh, do do do." Cuz that's what he was saying. Next minute, the girl's saying, "Oh, he gave me 2,000 lb customized chain." Oh, "You're a simp." Whatever anybody says, he's going to spin it to me.
>> What now? The chain was customized.
Apparently, it didn't come from the Nittys, no. I didn't just get it for a 10 stone, no. Yeah, anyway, I'm going mad. Look, this Do you know what? I'm I I Yeah. Anyway, the point what I'm making is is whatever you say about me, Funky's going to spin it to be bad because he's just a weirdo that's just got a weird fixation with getting onto me. You're a weirdo, go away. That's it.
Anyway, you know what? I didn't even come up with >> You know, you sound deflated, man. I didn't even I didn't even Oh, you doubt the way that you talk backwards that I just gave you made you sound deflated, man. But Chron, But you tried to deny it until Talla was saying she remembers Good job with 15 and 22.
>> [laughter] >> No, no, no, you thought Talla didn't know. You tried to deny it and act like I was lying. You're all lying. That's what you do. No, but when Talla started breaking out the context that you started getting deflated and had to explain yourself.
You liar. Cuz remember, you didn't know about me before I came on TikTok. I think Talla knew me on TikTok before then, so she knows everything.
HOW YOU TALKING ABOUT ME? HE'S A LIAR.
YOU'RE VEXED. We're not talking about this. We're not talking about this.
Answer that, Funky. You talking about her.
>> know how to talk to you?
>> happened to her, you know. You said it on YouTube, Funky. You knew everything that happened to her.
And said that Frank was talking about it. You said I got a next question for him. No, no, no, I want him to answer that first. Chronic, I him to answer >> about the Tommy and HBK situation and what he was doing middleman.
All right. All right. All right. Let's to move parties >> GOING TO ANSWER THAT, I DON'T WANT TO TALK. ONE SECOND. One second. One I need him to answer that. No problem. I heard you. For to to move parties back cuz I know there's fair questions. Can you both ask each other one question each and both answer one question each?
>> Yes. Yes. How does Spray >> was you doing middleman? What happened with middleman between Spray Wait. I'm going to change Who gets to ask the first question with a quiet toss?
>> [laughter] >> Yeah, because you said you said HBK was lying before. So, is HBK lying?
>> this question [laughter] first cuz he's asked you quite a few times. Um um um um you know what? Yeah, I can't remember saying it. Yeah, but >> You said it's on YouTube. You said it >> All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right.
Cool. I might have got it wrong. All right. Cool. But, I ain't got this wrong. CUZ YOU'RE A LIAR. BUT, I ain't got this [laughter] wrong. All right.
Now, answer this question, man.
>> liar. You liar. So, you're answering the question, Funky D, by saying that you can't recall >> You was lying. No, he was lying. All right. All right. All right. All right.
Cool. Cool.
>> What's your That was your question to him. For a Funky, what's your question to Pinky?
What was you doing in the HBK and Tommy situation? What was you doing?
What do you mean you >> And when And when did you first meet her as well?
That's two questions, by the way.
>> Yeah. Yeah. That's two questions. One question. This guy thinks I'm stupid, isn't he?
Yo, all right. All right. Answer that question. What was you doing in the in in in the way that you see? Okay. So, let me answer this. Like I said before, Cronus, yeah? The girl has come to my house, right? Yeah? She's coming to my house with her boyfriend, okay? Yeah?
I've told this girl before, yeah? This girl that gave me three years of her life, yeah? Cuz there's been loads of different guys, yeah?
When you come with these guys, don't bring them to me. Make them go around the corner or whatever cuz she's got to come here. She's got to drop off her dog. She's got to pick up some of her stuff, whatever, yeah? Cool. She's come.
She said a god damn thing to me, yeah?
She left. She took bare long to leave.
She was looking for stuff. I'm even thinking, because when I was in Africa, I made my little cousin link her and this guy. And my little cousin said something to me. He said to me, "Bro, he said this guy's moving a bit weird, you know? It's like he was moving a bit weird with the girl, even the way he was holding her. It's like he was trying to like prove something. Like it was moving and I was in Africa, I was doing my music video, I was doing bare things. So I didn't even really have time to even phone her and be like, "Bro, you you good or whatever." I just got sidetracked. Cool, whatever. Yeah?
Anyway, so I'm already knowing this guy might be a bit weird. When she's left, yeah? I'm already thinking, okay, what did she do when she came here? Cuz she didn't even walk in my room. She like went in my spare room and in the laundry room. So I'm thinking, they'll remember everything she done because they're she's they're probably going to argue.
When they've When she's left, within about 10 20 minutes when they're in the cab, she's rang me. "Hey Pinky, hey Pinky, what happened when I was in your house?" I was like, "Well, you came, you went in the spare room, you did da da da da da." This guy even said something weird over the phone like, "Huh, you're smelling like cocoa butter." I don't even own cocoa butter. I don't have cocoa butter in my house. You know what I'm saying? I don't know what that meant. I don't know if that was a racist comment. I don't know what it was, yeah?
They start arguing from then, yeah?
About another 20 minutes after that, she rang me. And this is what the girl said to me, con, yeah? She said, "My man tried to kick her out or something like that." She was staying Basically, she was in a hostel at the time and the people were chatting [ __ ] about my dogs, innit? So when she was with him, he wouldn't allow to have the dogs there.
So like the whole notion that oh, I had a problem with Tommy and this that. Like I was glad because it's like, okay, the dogs don't have to be with me. They could be anywhere you could be where the dogs could be there, I'm happy. Does that make sense? Cuz I don't want them here. Hence why you're holding them.
Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah? She's ended up getting into something with him. She backed out whatever she backed out on him, yeah? Her words, yeah? Both of them got called. When both of them got called, they ended up breaking down what happened the day before, which was what my man sitting down in jail for. Do you get it? She's rang man, yeah, after she's been the boredom and this that. So I'm like, "Oh my god, this happened beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep I'm stuck. I'm with the dogs and this and that." I said, "Okay, cool. No problem." I called her a cab. She came here. Like, outside of that, I had no involvement in any police stuff. She told me that she didn't even call the jakes. He did. You know what I'm saying?
She had no involvement, no police stuff, never told her to call the police, never told her to carry on with the case, never told her what to say. How can a Come on, watch this [ __ ] Yep. My only little sister, yeah? If my little sister, yeah, phoned me today and said to me, "Bro, I got I got odd, innit?"
And she already called the police cuz remember, by the time you told me Wait, I'm going to say like this. By the time you told me, you already called the jakes. You didn't tell me prior to calling the jakes or the jakes coming or the jakes anything, yeah? That's the first thing, right? Cool. Now, if then my little sister decided to say to me, "Oh, what should I say in court? What what what should I say happened? How should I" I would start to look at her funny, yeah? Because why do you need me to tell you what happened in a room that I [ __ ] wasn't in? Let's use our brains for a second. Let's use our [ __ ] brains for a second. You think this girl could ever come up to me and say to me, "Oh, so Pinky, what should I say in court?"
Like, "Why why are you asking me?"
Why you Did Did you speak to the people already? Was I there?
What can I say?
But because it sounds cool and it sounds cute Oh, yeah, Pinky, you help Tommy get What the [ __ ] Bro, you do know you're a clown, yeah? You do know you're a This is the person that we're talking about, yeah, before you You know what? Go mad back in this mad person, yeah? Let me tell you something about it. I'm going to jump off after this, yeah?
Watch this.
While I was dealing with this girl, yeah? Yeah? She unwarranted I didn't ask for this unwarranted she sent me Uncle Rafool's profile, yeah? She sent me the profile said, "Oh, this is my friend. Do you think Could you think you could get him on RTM?" I sent it to Spray. Spray didn't know him. I didn't know him.
Nobody cared, yeah? After that, she's going out with Tommy, yeah? She also sent me his profile. Oh, yeah. Oh, he's big on TikTok. Do you think you could get him on RTM? I sent it to Spray.
I didn't know him. Spray didn't know him. Nobody cared. Yeah? But why do you want to put [ __ ] in my vicinity that you've been [ __ ] Do you think I knew at the time that she was [ __ ] Rap Rhyme?
Do you think I knew she was [ __ ] Tommy? But this is the [ __ ] person that we're talking about.
>> Bro, if you knew she was [ __ ] Tommy, why would it have mattered if she was [ __ ] Uncle Rap Rhyme? You don't get it. No, it wouldn't have >> [laughter] >> mattered. No, I don't care. No, I don't care. And it doesn't matter. I'm just telling you the sort of person that we're talking about. Because you're not telling me about these things. Do you get what I'm trying to teach you?
Whether I care or not is not the point.
Yeah, because I don't put girls next to other girls that I've beat on purpose without them knowing that I've beat the other girl.
Do you get what I'm trying to teach you?
That's me. Scumbag me. All right. What's the age gap between you and her?
>> [sighs] >> Bro, don't let me go mad to man. Answer the question. What is the age gap between What is the age gap, bro? Answer the question. Hurry up. Age gap? I don't know. Like 12 years or something. You don't know? So you just laid down with anyone. So if a 16-year-old is talking to you cuz you don't know the age gap, you would sleep with a 16-year-old, 15-year-old. You're asking me to [ __ ] do maths, innit? So I'm doing the maths.
You don't want to answer the question.
Let me ask you. What would you say, Antara? What would you say, Antara?
I said there's just too many lies told that unfortunately no one ever know the truth, but in that Tommy is in prison.
And you know how hard it is to get convicted of what he's been convicted of for one. There was evidence for two, but what I was told and I just want to make this clear. I did go and see Tommy. This was before I knew what he was arrested for. Like as in I was told he was arrested for breaching tag. Yeah, I went I visited him and I was told that he was arrested for breaching his tag. You can't even visit. Huh?
Go away. Basically, what he was told me is he said um the formulation of how everything went is correct. But it was that she said that you was her brother.
So to him she said that you was her brother.
>> saying that you had food in your mouth and you couldn't find it amongst the food. And it was something that you was trying to make her like sell or something like that. So, that's why he didn't he kicked the dogs out on and this and that because he didn't want her to sell in the house.
Because it's like you're not selling he knew that his house is not the best cuz but he said no, you're not going to be selling out of my house.
So, because we were trying to get her out and things like that, she then called the police.
And so and that's when they noticed a tag and the and then obviously she said that last and then they arrested him.
That's what I got told but that can also be a lie. Doesn't mean it's the truth just cuz it's come from somebody's mouth.
>> was out of it.
It don't mean that it's the truth. You know what I mean? He also the same person that lied to me and said that he didn't do the this and that and whatever. So, the reason the reason why is some of that would have had to be a lie yeah, because I'm telling you Tora, yeah, that they left here, yeah, and within an hour this [ __ ] was arrested.
Do you get what I'm trying to say to you?
>> Yeah, because but did he did he take your dogs back or did she leave them at yours? Because he told her he can't have the dogs anymore at hers. Yeah, no, she no. She had the dog she had the dog with her. She had to bring them back hence why she came back to my house.
>> Okay, but then it's true then.
He said that he don't want to out with the dog. She can't take the dogs back to a hostel so she had to bring them back.
>> No, he could have she could have had them there but he was trying to get around because she said that that she wants to start shutting out there that you you're making a shop.
>> to your house was she making a shop?
>> He thinks he's making a shop. Oh my god.
>> what this is what I was told but don't mean it's true. This is as they [laughter] say a conspiracy.
What were you doing? He said that And wait, is your dog the one that she shanked or is that another person?
>> No, no, no, no. Wait, what? Wait, listen, listen. No, she Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
No, but it the dog the dog attacked her, innit? It wasn't that the dog tried to attack her, innit? It wasn't that. Oh, okay. It how it sounds, innit? Does that make sense? That's that's that's Zimmy, I'm not I'm not the stickered, you know.
I'm not going to sit here and run with something that makes her look bad and try to make her look bad cuz that's what she No, I was just asking. I obviously I knew the situation. Dogs are man's best friend.
That [laughter] that is your dog. But there is truth in it because her bringing the dogs back, he said to me he was like when he was describing it he said that yeah he was getting at her cuz she had to get rid of the dogs. She had to bring the dogs back.
Okay, okay. So Tyra now, what if you didn't go and see Tommy now yeah and I was saying this stuff on stage then he would still be denying it.
Yeah, no. I already went and saw Tommy once and then this is when HBK started going live and saying obviously what's going on. I was just thinking Frankie, what you're saying something totally different than what you said You're fighting for your life over there boy.
No, there is truth Frankie D. If you listen if you hear what we said if my vocabulary is not that great Tyra saying you're saying something totally DIFFERENT YEAH, WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING.
OH YEAH. OH DO DO DO. I'M TELLING you the timeline of what happened. I've never changed it. I told everybody from the day dot that that day they was here.
What are you talking about? Why would I need to Tyra didn't say first I said it.
Then Tyra said that's true. So you're saying oh if Tyra wasn't here right now you'd be denying it. I said it before Tyra said it. Oh you're fighting for your life. How? You you're fighting for your life right now.
>> [laughter] >> So you so okay. He's a liar. So you had your obviously HBK was your girlfriend after that.
Okay, okay. So Tyra Tyra Tyra Tyra Tyra Tyra Okay, okay, okay. If yeah if um that has happened yeah to her yeah and all of these things yeah and this guy was still laying down with her what does that mean?
That he just I think it's just support you know. Obviously if you know someone is going through something you support them. Are you supposed to kick them to the curb when they've had something happen to them?
Like you know what I mean cuz say Tyra, like the girl come back the girl said to me bro ABC happened. My first thing was what? And you had my man downstairs, you didn't say nothing. You just what?
>> a lot though, isn't it? Yeah, I'm saying you're in bare love triangles. Everyone acts different in traumatic situations.
So what So what was I supposed to do then? I ain't got no time. You know what, yeah, you know what, yeah, you got odds, yeah. Thanks for my dogs, get out my house, leave. You're you're damaged, you got odds. I don't want to be Does that what I was supposed to do? Is that what I was supposed to do? Like use your [ __ ] brain. Like you I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this.
I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this.
>> Okay, so you're admitting that you slept with then.
What are you talking about? Bro, do you even know this person? Do you know this >> So you're admitting that you slept with a vulnerable person.
>> know this person? All right, listen, listen, listen. Are you admitting that you slept with a vulnerable person?
>> look vulnerable on RTM? Cuz this person was on RTM telling Spray, "You're a bitch." The same person that you said you would back me up. Wait, shut up.
Wait. You go for vulnerable women.
>> you Wait, wait, wait. You go for people that go for women that are unstable.
Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up.
Hold up. Hold up.
>> I've seen the pattern, bro. I've seen the pattern with you. All right, all right, all right.
Like you're the type person that goes, yeah, for like baby moms that kids have got taken away. If you was on spaces, you would have been the first to sleep with Mama 30. I've clocked your pattern, bro. That's great. That's great. But watch this, yeah. You're saying she's a vulnerable person, yeah? This person's on RTM All right, all right, hold on.
Wait, shut up. Wait. Let me speak, man.
Let me speak, man. This person's on RTM calling Spray a [ __ ] It did, bro. It don't matter This person's on RTM saying to Spray, "I'm not Pinky, you know. I'm not Pinky, you know." Why don't you want to talk about her age? Does that sound like someone who's vulnerable?
>> But Pinky, she might have created that Does that sound like someone who's vulnerable?
I'm not Pinky, you know.
>> things that [laughter] have happened to her in her past. You know what, Tara? Tara, you Do you know, yeah, when someone says, yeah, "So if I watch Chronixx slap someone, yeah, and Chronixx is talking to me wild, and I say to Chronixx, 'I'm not this person.'"
That implies that that person is a [ __ ] to me. That's That's universal language for that. We all know How old is she? For you to sit on RTN and say, "Don't talk to me like that. Don't buzz off me. I'm not Pinky, you know." All right. All right. How old is she? But they're a vulnerable person. Yes. Well, definitely. Does that sound like a vulnerable person? I don't know how old she is, please, cuz he doesn't want to answer. I think he's my age.
That would help. How old are you, Tara?
I'm 23.
All right. All right. All right. That doesn't mean you have anything to do with it.
>> are saying 20. Some people date older men. I don't know how All right. All right. All right. All right. All right.
All right, Tara. How old do you think he is? Tara. Tara. Tara.
>> [laughter] >> Oh, yeah. Everything's gone quiet now.
I was sure about You think Pinky is hiding over there, boy? I was sure about Z. What the You can't say that. What do you mean you're cheating?
Because Can I just say something? You men, I don't know what kind of lives you guys live, but you guys live have lived a a gang life, yeah? You most probably have PTSD thinking that. You most probably been pulled up on the You go in shock. You most probably don't want to go certain areas cuz your body's in shock and all that. You act very different. So, no one can say this and that. She might have created a defense to She might be able to buzz off men and stick up for herself now because of stuff that she's been through. You think Tara Tara Tara, what's this year? Do you think that >> She said, "Oh, I'm not Pinky." Because Maybe you just don't say anything when someone curses you. All right. I don't know what you say, but All right. When did this Tommy thing happen? Look, I'm going to get Look, I can't speak now.
I'm trying to respond to Tara. I don't want No, I wasn't talking for her. I'm talking to Tara. Tara. Tara. Tara.
What's I was just saying that I'm talking to this [ __ ] here, man. Tara.
I don't know what I've done to Pinky.
Tara. How old When did the When did the Tommy thing happen, Tara? I don't know.
I can't say. All right. When did When did you visit When did you visit this person? You just turned into this person today. Ages ago. Yeah, how long was it ago?
Like This person is a whole gangsta.
He's I couldn't tell you.
Tara. I think it When did you visit When did you visit this person? When was it?
When When was it? When was it? When was it?
I told him this guy is trying to do clean up.
>> [laughter] >> The [ __ ] Well, I'm trying to I'm trying to answer Tora.
>> [laughter] >> Tora, when did this happen? Anyway, you know what? When did you visit Toby? What date? Cuz we're in 2026.
I couldn't tell Yeah, I couldn't tell you a date at all. All I know it was years ago his first got arrested. So, whenever that was. It was when 2020 what? I didn't say a date. I can't give you a date. It's whenever he first got arrested. Wait, where's this guy gone?
Wait, wait, why is this guy running off for? You can't say that someone's vulnerable just cuz what where she says oh, I'll spray you or whatever.
One, when you're comfortable with someone, you can have banter. Look how comfortable Chronic is with me.
>> [laughter] >> No, I'm joking. No, but you know what it is? When you're comfortable with people, you can have a certain banter. So, like like with people, you get comfortable.
But do you get what I mean? So, just because she's able to say that, doesn't mean that she's not this and that. When you go through things in life, you just learn to then defend yourself whatever and that clearly might be what she does.
Exactly. She will just defend herself.
You put a mask. You think I can never get treated Yeah, I can never get treated like that.
Same way when these men are pulling up on you, you go I'll never get my stuff robbed ever again. So, what do you do?
Okay, next time you might carry or you might do this and that. Do you know what I mean?
Exactly.
That just shows that just shows that she was vulnerable.
Yeah, she's a vulnerable young adult.
Just by hearing some of the stuff that she said, she's a vulnerable young adult, yeah. And this is what I've been trying to explain to this guy.
I'm trying to explain about vulnerable people because I'm Pinky. I'm not saying this in a horrible way at all. I used to work with like SEN and I done psychology, yeah? But I noticed in some men they do have a a global delay and a global delay is a global delay is when they're a bit younger in mind than they are in their age. Men mature later than women. So, the the vibe I get with Pinky is just by a little thing ever I a tiny global delay. Not saying that's okay, but they will get on with each other better because he is 20 in his mind.
Do you get what I mean?
He is 20 in his mind.
He is This is dark.
>> [snorts] >> The fact you're Like whoever's screen recording this, whoever's clipping this, can you send this >> in his mind. He likes sitting there doing loons, doing that, whatever, getting lit with a bad [ __ ] you know what I mean? That's what happens.
That's what happens, you know what I mean? Like >> [gasps] >> Like They love hanging with the bad [ __ ] No, some people do. It's not a thing.
It's nothing I had a global delay.
Some people, and I know it's in a lot of men, they have global delays. There's a lot of undiagnosed things within the men the road men community. And >> [laughter] >> global delays are a proper thing. So, you don't think you're doing anything wrong. I know that you men do Some of you men do like chatting to young things, but there's some of you guys that are here a girl is younger than 23 and you're like, "Oh, no, I could never." Because it's not a legal, it's just unethically incorrect. Like I could I can I can go and get with a 1.9 liter, yeah?
It's not illegal, it's just unethically correct.
Do you get it?
I'd never get with a 1.9 liter, but I could. And you guys can't tell nothing cuz I'm not telling you.
I think you're going to get with a 1.9 liter being 23, but I wouldn't.
This guy was manipulating her. Any single time when she wanted to leave him, he would get her a chain, he would get her a Burberry bag. He would just say, "Come on, man." I know the whole patterns what he says.
>> And you would say, exactly. So, now what you are saying, Funky D, that is wooing.
Yeah? So, that I didn't know that, but that is wooing. Because the whole point is, what did I say? If you wanted to join the police and you was in debt, they'd say no, you can't join us.
Because now, if a road man says, "Tell me where the yard are with the wogs and I'll give you 10k." You'd take it. Because you've got no money and you're in debt. So, yeah, unfortunately, if you are someone that likes a bit of cash and you haven't got it and he's offering this and that, that is wooing.
But wooing Blatant him, but he was just trying to do a custom match. And I'm thinking, why are you trying to do a custom match and not answer these questions? I just want you to answer these questions.
Oh, sorry, I had a working yes. So, that's that's that's that's labor. Young labor.
You know what it is? People doing doing stuff for a bit of money, do you know what I mean? I can't Do you know what I mean? I can't talk but yeah, I yeah, love a bit of coin, do you know what I mean? But I I'm not getting wooed. I'm doing this off my own back. Does that make sense?
There's no one No, there's no one wooing me. I'm doing it off my own back. Do you know what I mean?
Like So, she's coming to you She's coming to your house to talk about the the Tommy case with you and then you're sleeping with her. Like, what?
You know what heads are over here.
Funky, be smart though, because that wouldn't have been able to happen straight away because of the forensics.
So, that wouldn't have been allowed to happen anyway.
When do you think the sleeping was taking place then?
I'm not too sure cuz I don't I I don't really know the um I've never actually got that far in like a case or anything with that sort of stuff.
Okay, but then obviously out of nowhere, them two they start having sex with each other. No, but we don't know we don't know time frames. We don't know linkages or whatever and obviously that is a bit personal. So it's none of our business, but it's always it's a perspective. So to me when I see these older men with only young things, I'm just like why? But it is cuz we're vulnerable. We can get more gassed. It's like when I was in school and you think a car can gas me now? Never unless it's a Lambo or something, then yeah. But when I was in school what? Cheeky BMW 1 series.
>> no Lambo or whatever. All right, whatever you say Chronic cuz you know damn well that I am. But um you know something like a BMW 1 series. Oh my god, he's driving a BMW 1 series. But I'm in year 11 and they're in Barking and Dagenham College. Do you get the drift? Like of course I'll get gassed over that.
>> Mash up, man.
>> Younger people get gassed over more.
Someone like Annie who is the same age as him, she won't get gassed if he takes her Hakasan.
Does that make sense? Cuz she's mostly been ta- ta- taken Hakasan bare times.
Who has? No, I'm just saying like when you go when you go for women your same age, you can't gas them.
But you can gas a younger person.
>> is And this is why I was saying to him, this is a pattern.
You can be wooed by someone in a Ronald McDonald's costume.
It's a pattern.
>> Yes, with a black with a gold card, yes for McDonald's. I can be wooed.
You can still get gassed. No, Shev, you can, but be smart. You're an older lady.
If a guy says to you they're going to pick you up and take you Hakasan. Are you really going to get gassed? I wouldn't get gassed.
Do you know Does that make sense? But now if he's going to you can get gassed at any age. Well, it depends what life you you can guess what life whatever. But I'm just saying with younger people, men go for younger people for one because it's a little bit easier and we get gassed over a little bit more stuff.
Does that make sense? Of course. Of course.
>> With older women and maybe Shev, I don't know what what what Do you know what I mean? But maybe if she would if it's not the Exactly. I would get gassed over someone picking me up. Nice car, taking me to I've never lived before, taking me somewhere that I've never done whatever.
I'd get gassed. That's why I gave my thing when I was younger. Always got a BMW 1 Series. Of course I would never get gassed over a BMW 1 Series now.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, I I understand every single thing what you're saying. I just wanted him to >> Thank you, Funky D. I'm gassed over that.
>> were talking about cars.
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