Getting Pictures Can Save Your Life In Prison

Added: 2026-05-12

[00:00:00]What up? What up? Y'all already know what time it is now tuned in with what you got Joe T and I tell prison stories.

[00:00:04]Why? Because I did 10 years in prison.

[00:00:06]And who better to give you the game other than somebody who done lived it and is on the other side of life. And when I say on the other side of life, I ain't talking about on the other side of the fence, not outside of prison. I'm talking about on the other side of life, the good life.

[00:00:23]>> Bless this conversation when I'm talking. Bless the who going. Bless the ones who trying to find healing. trying to find itself when they in the mirror.

[00:00:32]Bless the ones that I haven't reached.

[00:00:34]Bless the ones that be trying to teach.

[00:00:36]Bless the one who trying to understand.

[00:00:37]We tired of fighting each other. Trying to bring peace. Bless the ones who fighting for their marriage. Bless the kids. Bless the parents. Bless the hood.

[00:00:45]Bless the prison. Open up their eyes.

[00:00:47]Give them vision. Okay. So, boom. That time one of the guys tried to give me a violation for failure. Aa. You don't know what AA is? And let me know you ain't never in affiliate. You ain't never been affiliated. advise you never to become affiliated. Now, sometimes in the penitentiary and in the real world, things can be going so crazy, you don't know how to come outside of your head and outside of your body. You don't know how to just say, "Let me take a deep breath. Let me reassess the situation."

[00:01:18]And it's hard to find something where you can put your mind somewhere else where you can before you hit the button.

[00:01:26]And one of the things throughout my sentence used to do that I had a ziploc bag full of pictures. I would always go through my pictures and reflect on what it was I wanted to get back to and at the time what wouldn't have made sense to keep doing what wouldn't have made sense on a decision because it could have extended my state or could have took my life. Now, even on the streets, I had a hard time re being able to pause before I pulled the trigger. Even before I was riding down the street, no license, picking up plenty of door, going on high-speed chases. I didn't have nothing in my life at the time where I said, "I ain't going to do that because my child need me. I ain't going to do that because I don't want to keep breaking my mom heart. I don't want to do that because I don't want to spend the rest of my life in prison. I don't want to do that because I don't want to go to a early grade. I don't want to do that because I'm just basically going to end up a low life.

[00:02:32]another statistic where I'm just sitting around having conversations about sports and politics and this and that and then look up in later on in life and realize it was a lot of choices that I made that prevented me from being able to do certain things and go certain and go uh certain places. So, I'm sitting in his cell one day. I'm cooling. I'm chilling.

[00:02:55]I'm minding my business like I always do. And I'm really in a little mood because I just got off the phone. I done called my BM. I'm talking to her. She talking back. We convert. We having a whole little conversation. I'm trying to ask her to send the visitation form to my mama them or to my sister them since she didn't want to fill them out. So I could so I can see my daughter for anybody who been following me and watching my journey. You know, I didn't get to see my daughter the whole 10 years I was locked up cuz my child mama was dealing with another dude which I think played a huge part in why I didn't get to see my child. Now, I'm going to hold myself accountable even in this conversation. When you get to prison, what most people on the outside don't realize is you do take a certain level of accountability. You do understand, you start to understand mentally what you should have been doing. You realize what what affected what you didn't do.

[00:03:52]And now you on a collect phone trying to present a case to people who have seen you fall short of the words you gave them over and over. I had Samario when I was 14, 15 years old. If you familiar with my journey or you done read the book then you know I got locked up maybe two three weeks a month before Samaria born. Samaria was born. I got locked up dead uh I think 10 months on that bid. I came home, stayed home a few months, went did 11, look, went and did a year on the nose, came home for eight months, caught the case, they sent me to prison.

[00:04:36]So by the time my daughter was born, I literally probably only done spent maybe 12, 13 months in her life. So now that I'm sitting in prison and my child is being raised by somebody that I have an opinion about because now I no longer agree with the life. I no longer agree with how you saying we have to provide for our family because that's all we've been around. Had I still had the mentality, I would have been on some okay, it's cool long as she straight.

[00:05:04]But now that I'm on the other side of being a jack boy, knowing this now puts my daughter in a in a situation because her mama deal with a dope boy. So I'm mindful of the type of dudes, the type of guys that will like me that'll sit by your house or follow you home. And my child is in there. And now he having to make a decision based on is he going to be prideful or is he going to put my child in a situation to where these folks might crash out. A lot of people don't think that way until you sitting behind that fence. See you sitting behind the fence. So I'm sitting in his head and I'm I'm I'm deal I'm dealing with this one of the folk coming down.

[00:05:46]Hey folk GB the reason bro. GB the reason folk at this time I don't have my POA. You don't know what a POA is and let me know. You ain't never been affiliate. You ain't never been affiliate. I never to become affiliate.

[00:05:58]I ain't the COS no more. Black James the COS at this point. And what happened and what happened once I wasn't a COOS no more. A lot of brothers want to go ahead and let it be known that you just a standing member now. You don't know what a standing member is and let me know.

[00:06:15]I'll stand and let me know you never been affiliated. You ain't never been advised. You never to become affiliated.

[00:06:21]So it was a lot of brothers who knowing when I had when you got a POA of course they could come and holl at you and ask you to aa them whatever the case may be but a lot of time they ain't approaching POAS and asking them to do stuff like that. Go ask stand the member go ask a stand member. So now I'm more so on the front line I guess you can say when it come to shower or security all that old type of stuff. Now brothers who I ain't got the POA no more. They coming to ask me to come do basically regular stuff that that that the guys got to do. You know what I'm saying? And I ain't with all that. And nine times out of 10, sometime, you know, I know you going to want a meal from me. I know you going to want something something to smoke from me. I know you probably going to ask, can you use the phone? It's going to be something. So sometimes when I when I didn't have a POA a lot of times that also kept people from coming because I'mma cut your w off. This is this is chess not checker. Now I might be I might be a outstanding I might be a standing member right now but you know if you keep on come around here as me doing stuff you know I don't like to do because you want to play these reindeer games around here. Next time you come around here and say that you need a summer sausage and you can't go to the box and get one cuz you owe a box $10.

[00:07:38]Guess what? Joe T ain't got no summer sausage for you. Next time you see me cooking a big boy meal and I got two, three in the guy with man. Dang, I can't eat with y'all. Oh no, G. We already got enough of this. It's burrito. We fa to chop these six up. Two, two, and two.

[00:07:51]You feel me? Bro, get the chip, bro. Get the chip, bro. Ain't no, you can't come over here and get none of the meal. And then here go the worst part of the day for people who stomach touching their back and they ain't got no commisser.

[00:08:04]And you done burnt your bridges. And you run around here acting like a hooligan.

[00:08:08]And you come through and they locking door.

[00:08:11]Hey, who in 15? I'm f to lock. Hold on.

[00:08:15]See, real quick. I'm And you right by my door. I'm f to get a suit for my folk real quick, girl. I come. Hey, J lock my door. You trying to run game on J lock my door, man. Let me get a suit real quick. Let me get a suit real quick before you lock my door. G. Oh, let me get some reab. I'm going make me a po man meal down there. I was over folk. I ain't got no soup to get no man. N G you got 60 man. Why you lock down? Go on down there bro before they get you without a place bro. Go on down there bro. I ain't got no more man. That crazy G man. Hey man. G you know what? Then you get real loud cuz you got to ask one of the folks who catch eye contact with you and laugh at you man. Ain't funny bro man. Come on bro. Tripping bro. Let me get a soup bro.

[00:08:56]Then that's the boo you got to pull.

[00:08:58]Come on bro. No. Don't come over here asking me crazy stuff, brother. I tap. I said, "Man, what's up, G?" He popped it up, stick his head in. "Hey, G, come.

[00:09:07]Hey, hey, me real quick, bro. I need to go over this 55 real quick." I said, "Man, hold on, bro. I'm going to take care of something." All right, man. Hold on, bro. Now, come on, bro. I need you to run over me real quick. He got the door open, bro. A me. I said, "Bro, step in the head real quick." He step in, man. Bless his head. What's up, G? Man, come on, bro. Let go over. I like, bro.

[00:09:25]I ain't even trying to do all that right now. I got other stuff to take care of.

[00:09:29]Hold on, hold on, hold on, folk. You I know, bro. You You denying me. You You denying me, bro. I said, bro, come on, man. 13 14 other brothers in here, bro.

[00:09:38]Man, go a while. I'm telling you I'm doing something real. Nah, bro. I came to ask you, bro, you got to assist me in my own righteousness and bro.

[00:09:46]Bro, I'm not You know what, bro? I don't even want to do that. That That That's how it pop it out, bro. I I don't want to do that today. What you mean you don't want to do that today, G? His whole mission done went completely left on the basis of he want to focus on one of the guys he feel doing him way more wrong than Prod than the situation he done put himself in man. No G G you know what G on that vote. I know what that mean.

[00:10:17]He going to go tell Gigahoo Black James.

[00:10:20]He better go say it to somebody. young.

[00:10:22]He fa say something about me not me saying I don't want to aa him right and let it come and then let it come full I already know what time it is he walk out he walk out and say what's up he close the door oldhead Nick come to the door J man what's up what's up ohhead Nick holl at you real quick I said man come on in bro he popped his head bless his head man what going on you all right I said Yeah, I'm good. He said, "Man, I I was I was standing down there." He said, "I seen what's name come up out of I seen a little knucklehead come on up out there. It looked like he had a little attitude."

[00:10:59]He went down there. Black James said I said, "Yeah, he probably going to go down there and tell." He said, "Man, what going?" He said, "Man, what going on now?" Like, I said, "Man, he want me to go around and do something with him, man. I ain't got time for all that, man." He said, "Man, you know, that one I ain't never really, man, I ain't none of that stuff really made sense, you know. I understand why some people come to the penitentiary and do what they do and got to move how they got to move.

[00:11:21]You know what I'm saying? And at some point though, just as a grown man, you know, don't none of that make sense no more. Cuz you know, another man should have had no authority over another man like that. You know what I'm saying? I understand leadership. I understand listening. I understand he for another man to basically be able to control you, you know, that's another thing. But I will say this, by that time he Hey JT.

[00:11:47]Hey bro. Hey bro. He popped the door.

[00:11:49]Hey. Hey bro. So what's up bro? What you doing? When he popped the door. I can see behind him. It's another brother standing right there. I said man. What's up G? What you got going on bro? You straight. The other brother turn brother bro turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn around. Hey folks. So what what's up bro? You ain't going to go with bro. You ain't going to go with bro. I got to go with bro. I look at oldhead Nick. Oldhead Nick look at me. Me and oldhead Nick look at each other. over here. Nick say, "Don't take care of your business, man. Don't take care of your business and you know, come back and holl at me when you do." He walked out of his I said, "Come on." I said, "You know what? Come on, G. Come on. Come on, folk. I got you." The The brother who's standing on the rail say, "So you good, G? So you got him, G."

[00:12:36]What it look like? Oh, don't be getting mad at me for he just came down and said he was trying to Come on, bro. You want me to go over with you, bro? I'll go over it with you.

[00:12:45]Clearly, like I told you though, this bro could have did it with you. But, bro, he came and asked you, bro. He came and asked you, bro. Bro, you know how this go, bro. Bro, quit acting like you don't know what you done signed up for.

[00:12:56]I hate it. Come on. Break me, please. I hate it when the guys felt like they could use GD to to slick talk me because on the streets, you listen, ain't no playing with me with GD, you have to be mindful that when I straighten him, he going to hit me with a right up. He going to hit me with disrespect. And then not only that, you can't whoop me. You ain't going to stand 10 toes down against me. You ain't going to beat me intellectually, but you going to have the whole compound of G's who going to have no choice but to ride with you if it's righteous. And and a lot of them going to ride with you even when it's not righteous. So even in your mind, listen to what I'm going to say.

[00:13:50]Sometime people stand on street codes and guidelines that don't make sense.

[00:14:01]You will do the idiot dumb thing versus using logic and common sense because there is a tone and a standard set for what it is you done signed up for.

[00:14:13]So when it come to GE, even though you know that don't make sense right there, if you using logic that you should be saying to yourself, you that's that's stupid.

[00:14:28]But on the basis of now you gotta aa me in all righteousness in the devil you will go ahead and throw your weight around when clearly probably the whole situation why we going over here ain't going to make sense a 55 a opposition owe you you want to say on the basis of it's a opposition let me go get a brother take this brother over here with me because of a debt I don't know what done happened yet you ain't use a no common sense. Listen, send word over, holl at somebody, but you want to use the or you want to use me as a brother.

[00:15:05]Nine time knowing other brothers going to come behind me, use me as a witness.

[00:15:11]I'm a credible brother. It's all calculate. It's all strategic versus just using common sense and not try to crash everybody else out cuz whoever he got to go over here and holl at, the Ver probably going to be playing about. So as we walking, I'm asking, bro, so bro, what's up? What's the situation, bro?

[00:15:28]What's going on, man? This dude ain't going to keep playing with me, bro.

[00:15:32]That's all I'm going to tell you right now, bro. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[00:15:36]Now, the 12 say and all righteousness and death. Now, I know you trying to get over and handle your business. I said, but I need to make sure it righteous because if you going to use the 12, then I got to use the 12. Point blank period, man. Bro, I engaged dude a couple weeks ago, man. I just went to uh folk them saying I'm sitting there f them smoking.

[00:15:54]I'm asking him where they got it from.

[00:15:56]He talking about he got it from such and such and then I was like dude he spray he owe me he so I done called over bro and as folkn listen I done called over and asked folk them do he got it he looking for a situation he called the brothers that's how commercial break me again that's how the criminal mindset work the criminal victim mindset is more so looking for a way for to create violence, hostility, animosity, chaos instead of really resolving a situation because you want to say ain't nobody want to play with me.

[00:16:43]I don't know how long ago the debt was, how much the debt is, if he really genuinely forgot. The only thing you had to say was, "Hey, you know what? you right. I ain't saying every situation like that because some people do pay play in the penitential.

[00:17:00]In this situation though, the minute he heard somebody say they got something from this individual instead of reaching, he called the folks, he want to go over here on the bump down like, "Oh yeah, thought you were going to play with me cuz you over here in another unit." All of that done circle back around. I'm going to come over here and see what's up with you since you think you could play with me. That's how people be thinking in the penitentiary.

[00:17:23]And then you gonna put other people in harm's way on the basis of you. You think you really doing something because you Yeah. Ain't nobody soon with Yeah.

[00:17:32]Don't be playing with me. You ain't going to By this time we already in the breezeway walking over a 55 coming out of the unit as we come in. What's going on? What's up? He our Joe in there. Joe and now that's that's vice lord call each other joe jo straight too he straight too he thinking he vouching for his brother when really he putting the opposition on who going over here got issue with his brother so by the time we get ready to walk in the door he turn around say oh he's everything straight ain't it everything straight Joe he talking brother turn around yeah yeah yeah everything straight G everything straight Something can play like this though. We get over there walking folk. What going on G? What's up folk? Big G. What's up G? What's up folk? What's up JT? What's up bro?

[00:18:34]Look look look.

[00:18:37]It's him. What's up G?

[00:18:39]What's up?

[00:18:41]J what you got going on G?

[00:18:46]Man, I ain't trying to do none of that.

[00:18:47]Listen to me. I'm playing the same chess game he playing. You hear me? I'm trying to signal the brothers without signaling the brothers to let them come down here and add me what going on so they can override and deal with the situation.

[00:18:58]And it ain't got nothing to do with me cuz soon as they see my body language, they going to say something is off. And listen to me. Third come downstairs. Jot J. Man, I'm I'm slow walk. He done pulled up to to the right little door.

[00:19:13]Hey Joe. Hey Joe. One of the vice lord popped the door. By that time third got me be like what's up G? What going on?

[00:19:19]Another brother pull up. What's up? I said man I don't know what people got going on or what brother got going on man. What's up y'all? Straight though I'm trying I'm trying to get my bread real quick. The door open cuz he done already and when he turn before he go in he address at the brotherham. He done beat me in my own ch. Listen to I done moved the pond. My boy done pulled a horse out. I'm talking about he done he done little Lshap and said the bishop up nah nah nah I'm going to get my bread my dude owe me some money five who at the door talking about what's up what's up who owe you some money he like hey what's up Joe the the 55 in the sale stand up oh come on come on what's up what's up I'm walking in behind man bless yourself stand outside the door he was like dang what's up dang you such and such and such man I'm trying to you You know what I'm saying? Whole time I ain't even trying to come over here. 55 hollow. I said, "What? This is a bump down?" He said, "Playful, but it's here." I What?

[00:20:18]This is a bump down. Nah, nah, nah.

[00:20:21]Ain't no bump down. I see you got your folk with what's up. I said, "Man, what going on?" I'm good. I'm He was like, "D coming over here bumping down on me."

[00:20:29]Nah, I'm just saying my folk was over here smoking people on compound. I'm trying to figure out how you in it. He like, "Man, bro, come on, bro. You don't even move like that, bro. Bro, I don't I don't even appreciate you coming over.

[00:20:42]It's gonna go left at that point. Folks say, "Man, I don't appreciate you run around here and then you ain't even came to holl at me. When you came over holl at me, I broke bread with you. Made sure you was straight. You the one said you were going to get me back. Now you over here, me and five, I look at five. Five look at me. Me and five look at each other.

[00:21:01]We got to examine each other bike uh bodies. Everybody know I ain't I ain't walking around with no butchers. I'm not catching no child. I'm not going to no ho for 30 minutes. He most definitely got that iron on.

[00:21:13]He got that iron on. He got the extendo on and and and he a little silly. I'm talking about he got on stable boots.

[00:21:19]They leaning over to the left. Clearly the 55 right here got a little got a little pull at the time. So we know what that mean. He's a crash dummy. He's going to take charges. He's going to do he's going to go above and beyond on the strength of So now I analyze BR body.

[00:21:36]Bro, I ain't got no 60 on them neither.

[00:21:38]You don't know what a 60 is? Let me know. You ain't never been affiliated.

[00:21:40]You ain't never been affiliated. I value never to become affiliated. So when I'm looking at bro, I'm thinking to myself, okay, now now you got us probably in danger. And they still sitting there going back and forth. The 55 who may have clearly been security for the other 55, he reach out his arm in front of bro. Hey, hold hold on hold on man. We ain't going to be doing no disrespect.

[00:22:04]bro takes his hand and pushes his arm down. He by this time the other vice lord done stepped up hold on. Don't put your hands on Joe. He man I'm just trying to go. He like man you going to get I'm going to get you a little bread man. Come on man. Bro hey J. Hey Jot. I I I'll talk to you oneonone J. But this right here man I ain't even going to do all that bro. I ain't even going to do this bro. Not over no $50 at all.

[00:22:30]I ain't got the cos.

[00:22:33]I'm just a I'm just a standing member at the time. I'm looking around the other lord. He standing closer to bro. They face to face almost faced off.

[00:22:44]I ain't going to touch five. I Hey, bro.

[00:22:49]He said he got you, bro. Bro, man, I need mine today, bro. I'm going to get it to you. He popping up third them and some more. What's up, Joe?

[00:23:00]What's up? What's up, folk? I said, "Bro, I got it, bro. Bro, I can talk to you oneonone." The V the other lord, he was like, "Nah, whatever you got to say to Joe, you going to say to both of us, you got that." I pulled the door. Hold on, bro. Third. Hold on. Hold on, bro.

[00:23:18]Nah, bro. We can't leave it by yourself, bro. You got two You got two of them.

[00:23:22]He's like, "Nah, bro. Just leave the door crack." I said, "Bro," I said, "When you going to take care of everything, bro? So we can go ahead, man. I'll get it to him later on today.

[00:23:30]But all that pulling up on me, brother, that ain't what going on. I just forgot about that little bread. But tell him I got it though. I ain't going to be doing all that. He like I was like, say, listen, we walk out of the cell. We address it without the vice lords right there. They done came out of the cell.

[00:23:48]Folk them done came out. It's a whole scene. And bro, still no folk, I'm just saying, bro. Bro, you could have just let her know, bro. Bro, he ain't on that, man. I don't care nothing about none of that, bro. He right here serving people. Five holler. Hey, hey, I already done said I got that, bro. Ain't nobody going to keep doing that, bro. We trying to get money. You calling the scene over here, man. Ain't nobody calling no scene. Just ain't nobody going to be playing with me, especially no opposition. He walking off at that time.

[00:24:13]At that point, I said, "Man, TP folk, come on, bro. Come on." N T ain't with all this soft stuff you be on. Who? Who?

[00:24:21]What you mean, bro? Third step in between us. Hold on, folk. Y'all can't be doing that, bro. Bro, y'all can step in and see it. Come on, bro. Step in for sale, bro. Come on, bro.

[00:24:32]We We on the other in the other union.

[00:24:36]We step in the cell, man. Bless his hell. Third, man. Y'all need to go on resolve that, bro. We don't do none of that over here. We ain't Nah, bro. We ain't sign with, you know. Exactly, bro.

[00:24:46]He acting like he trying to I said, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Ain't nobody trying to take up. You already act like he didn't want to." Oh, he throw He trying to throw me under the bus. You already act like he didn't want to. I said cuz I already knew it going to be some bull. I already told you I had something going on. My head ain't in the right place. You don't even know what I got going on personally. You ain't care nothing about that because bro, the be come before anything. I said, man, the business now go see it. Go on say it. I most definitely going to tell him the business don't come before my child, bro. I'm trying to show something else, man. Look here, bro. This all I'm telling you. I came over here with you.

[00:25:21]He we we got that figured out. say he g we step outside and say, "Bro, that's over with, bro. You fa to put us all in a situation for $50 that he said he gonna give you, bro." After after that, ain't nothing else to talk about. Third said, "Right, right, right." I said, "And far as all of that the the the the sword that you use." I said, "Bro, don't play with me like that cuz you already know I ain't on none of that, bro. I ain't with none of this arguing. I ain't with none of this pettiness. I ain't with none of that, bro. I don't even move like that. So next time, bro, don't disrespect me like that in front of man.

[00:25:54]Bro, I'm just saying, bro. That what it seem like, bro.

[00:25:59]Let's get on back over here to our side, bro. Let's let's let's get on back on over here. Third, man. Y'all good, bro.

[00:26:06]Man, y'all I said, man, bro, man, bro, I'm straight, bro. I'm on the I'm on the G, bro. I'm straight. We mo I ain't even talking, bro. Now real man, I'm just saying you trying to slick apologize and not be apologized. Right. We get in the unit. Oldhead Nick on the bottom. They mail call. Mail call.

[00:26:28]Oldhead Nick say I think he got some mail up. I seen on on the deck. He might want to get you. But I know old head Nick trying to but in on me walking with dudes. Walking with bro too. I said for real oldhead Nick. Yeah. You good?

[00:26:44]He was like, "Yeah, I think I seen your name over there. I think I seen your name." I said, "That was so bad. There's like two, three people in the line, bro." Said, "When you get your mail, come holl at me, bro." I said, "Man, I ain't got nothing to rap with you about."

[00:26:56]Maxi sitting at the standing on top re G. I ain't even I ain't responding.

[00:27:04]Nobody saying G period.

[00:27:07]Hey. Hey, J.

[00:27:11]What's up? What's up, Mo? This this the movie here.

[00:27:15]>> What's up? What?

[00:27:18]>> I told you nothing.

[00:27:24]What you come out?

[00:27:27]All right.

[00:27:30]Same person come through. He walked through.

[00:27:34]What's ID? 41414.

[00:27:41]B.

[00:27:43]There you go. Soon as I grab it, I I pull this move right here. It's got some pictures in there. Go ahead, Nick. We walk out and say we walk out of the cage over here. Nick, man, what's up? You straight? I said, "Yeah, man. I'm good, man. Let's go to go to the cell." So, we get up to the cell over here. Nick said, "So, so so how what happened?" I said, "Man, he just basically I'm going to put me in a little situation." And then he tried to flip it on me where it'll be.

[00:28:12]And as I'm talking, I'm turning for my uh for my pictures. So by the time I reach in, it's a letter and I pull the letter out. Of course, smell the letter cuz a lot of time, you know, in they want people to spray stuff on the on on the letter. So I pull the pictures out. Soon as I pull the pictures out over here and they said, "Oh, you got you some [ __ ] Got you some pictures." I said, "Yeah." So I get to going through the pictures and then one and then one of the pictures my homeboy I could well my homeboy that sent the pictures they was in Mexico so you can see the background and I'm I'm I pass the picture overhead I'm like look I like my homeboy right there. He asked he say where he think they at. I don't know exactly where they find out later on but they was in Mexico. So when he looking at the picture, he was like, "Man," he sit down on the thing. He was like, "Man, you know, that's that's one of the things I I I hate that I forfeited. You know what I'm saying? I ain't really get to travel." You know what I'm saying? I ain't get to do things and really just see this world, man. He was like, "Man, you know, we done He done switched off what what we was talking about ass." Um, it's crazy cuz we grow up in the little small town where we thinking gangs a big thing and street rivals. I stay on this side of town and you stay on this side of town and if we see you over here, we going to do all this old stuff. We go to school, we competitive as far as where we dress, we'll kill each other over jewelry. We got the, you know, the the the uh the old school cars. He just going through everything, right? He was like, "Man, about two years after I got locked up, one of my best friends, man, I'm on the phone with him, but I'm knowing I got a stretch. I'm on the phone with him, man. He telling me about this dude he got into it with about this G cuz he didn't know the dude like the G and the G like all this old stuff. And the dude's supposed to snooze them. You don't know what a a snooze is and let me know. You ain't never been knocked out and didn't know what happened until you got up." But anyway, so he was like, "Man, I'm talking to him." And I'm telling him, "Look, man. Pentia a real place.

[00:30:23]And when you get here, when they lock them doors, you just can't get up and leave when you want to." Like, you really got to deal with this.

[00:30:33]I met a lot of people in here, man, and I used to ask them, "Man, how you do all that time?" He say, "Little Joe, guess what they used to tell me?" I already know the answer cuz I don't I did the same thing. Man, I did I did I did it all. I did it all the way up till till I got out. He said, "David, I always wait till you got no choice."

[00:30:52]He by this time I done handed him two, three pictures. He looking at the pictures, see my daughter's mama, brother, homeboy background. Vroom vroom. He was like, "Man, look, forget whatever just happened. This this what this what you trying to get back to.

[00:31:11]You can keep this situation going. You you could get them up with them. You could do this. You could do that. You could get them crossed out. Whatever.

[00:31:19]This is what we're trying to get back to. Because if you see everything, think about it. It probably took you 10 seconds to get in trouble. Gave you 10 years.

[00:31:32]I said, "Yeah, yeah, that about right.

[00:31:34]That about right." Every time I got in trouble, took about 5 seconds.

[00:31:39]Sit in jail for a long, long, long time.

[00:31:42]So he hand me the pictures back. I'm looking at the pictures. I'm kind of smiling, laughing, watch looking at my homeboy and them dressed up, what they doing. I'm looking at the background where they in the in the city. I Oh, they on such and such street. They going on.

[00:31:54]But as you sitting in the cell and you don't know how to come outside of what you frustrated about, what you mad about. And my whole thought pattern was thrown out on the basis of that I forfeited being in my being able to be in my child life. Now I done forfeited being able to see her because really that's on her and I'm I'm mad and I'm frustrated because now not only that I done signed up for something that's got control of me that I ain't got no choice but to move on because how they done wrote the literature. So you can't even use common sense. So I got to go over here and this situation going to go completely left. I'm talking about like a fight. And now I'm sitting over here and I'm still thinking about going down here and holling at this dude. But I'm listening to oldhead Nick explain what he explaining about the pictures.

[00:32:41]And I'm telling this story because can't see it.

[00:33:16]I'm in Italy. That's a mafy coast.

[00:33:24]And I know it was so many times in my life that I could have possibly threw away the opportunity to be able to see the world, to be able to live life and live life freely outside of street codes guidelines and thinking what's right and what's wrong. Thinking what I think is right has always been what's wrong. And what was wrong I had interpreted as my norm as what was right.

[00:33:49]Me and oldhead [ __ ] do talk in my back.

[00:33:51]I got say man let me get a shot of copper man you going to get your whole bag you hear me cuz listen to me go down here straight do I still go on down there right I walk out of the I go down there black Jane them down there he got two three brothers down hey folk man what's up he got them all on the court with it I pop a little man bless said what's up Jeep hey folk man you man bro for real I said bro I won't apologize to you I said bro I know what I signed up I said, "Man, I should have went on, got up, and went over." I said, "But I will say this. I do wish you would have told me, you know what I'm saying, what it was before we been a little more detailed about." He was like, "No, bro. No, bro. I feel some type of way." I said, "I feel I feel that you feel some type of way." I said, "But you seen how quick that could have went left." And then it turned into us being against each other versus us against the issue. Not saying that I I'm I'm with any of that no more. Nah, bro.

[00:34:46]You right, bro, cuz you ain't, bro. And I apologize, bro. You know what I'm saying, bro? I was just mad because they just mad. I'm like, "Man, no, man. We f to ride on them." You know what I'm saying, bro? I was like, "Look, I ain't got to see my daughter." I was just on I'm trying to So, I explained the situation. He was like, "Ah, okay." Nah, okay. Okay. I feel where you coming from. I said, "Yeah, man." I said, "So, it wasn't that I I was like, man, it just what was going on at the time." And sometime you don't realize that the enemy know when you weak or the enemy know when to come. And in that moment, even though you already in enemy territory on the devil's playground, he also know when to come and play m play mind games on you. He ain't gonna care nothing about no logic or common sense or somebody trying to empathize and sympathize with what it is that you dealing with at the time. He going to make you go for what it is that you signed up for. It's a lot of people who depressed right now in the streets and on the basis of them people not knowing that they depressed on what they going through. They anxious. They they they poverty stricken. What the enemy do, he continue to create other situations to where you can crash out even deeper. And you ain't even realizing what's going on until you sitting in this cell and you think about it and you realize you ain't going to be able to travel to see the world.