Father SUES Ex-Fiancée After She & Grandma TOOK His Kids Away — BLOCKED Dad From Seeing His Children

Added: 2026-06-02

[00:00:00]go to the front door. And that's when he opened the door and he just like in my face like, "Don't be disrespecting me.

[00:00:06]Don't be doing that." And I'm just like, "Okay, bro. You need to get out of my face first of all." And he just said, "Okay, well, you know what? Forget it.

[00:00:13]I'm leaving." I'm took him. I didn't touch him or hurt him. It was never aggressive. I just wanted my things back and I didn't touch him or choke him or anything.

[00:00:23]>> And at this point, he had his forearm on my neck. So, at this I can't breathe.

[00:00:27]>> No, ma'am. I told him, "Get off of me, Devon. You're hurting me. You're choking me. I cannot breathe. Please get off of me. Get off me." And then at this point, he's he's standing over me. I'm still on the floor and I'm telling him to get off of me. And then that's when he did a close fist and hit me right here on the side of my face. I push him away. I said, "Get out. Get out. I don't want you here. Get out. Please get out." So at this point, I'm shoving him away from me.

[00:00:50]>> Okay. So again, he's standing there and you're pushing him.

[00:00:53]>> Yes. Said, "Why did you hit me? Why would you hit me like this?" Like why?

[00:00:57]And then he just kept going back and forth.

[00:01:00]>> It's hitting me. I have no phone. He took my phone. He took everything. And I'm helpless. So I'm trying to get out of here. But I need I need proof.

[00:01:12]This is proof. He's on me. I have blood everywhere.

[00:01:23]I have blood everywhere.

[00:01:25]Oh my god. I'm I'm scared. I'm scared, dude.

[00:01:29]He is crazy. He is really, really crazy.

[00:01:34]>> You and Miss Williams have known each other since middle school.

[00:01:38]>> Yes, ma'am. Since middle school, we've known each other.

[00:01:40]>> The paper suggests that sometime later, the two of you developed a romantic relationship and you started to live together in 2015.

[00:01:49]>> Yes, ma'am. November 16th, 2015.

[00:01:51]>> And you have two children together?

[00:01:53]>> Yes, ma'am. We do. It appears that there was an incident in your home and you were arrested.

[00:01:59]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:01:59]>> You were arrested for an assault.

[00:02:02]>> Was there a weapon that you were arrested for?

[00:02:05]>> No, ma'am. There was no weapon I was arrested for.

[00:02:07]>> It was just an assault.

[00:02:08]>> Yes, ma'am. Assault on family member.

[00:02:10]>> Okay. So, Miss Williams, I'm going to start with you, >> okay?

[00:02:14]>> Because Mr. Clarence ultimately was acquitted of all of those charges.

[00:02:19]>> Yes.

[00:02:19]>> And that was after a trial.

[00:02:21]>> Yes.

[00:02:22]>> Mr. Williams says that as a result of your allegations, not only did he suffer damages himself, but he wasn't able to see the two children for a while because you had requested a restraining order which was then granted but later vacated.

[00:02:38]>> Well, it was a protective order and um yes, he >> and it covered the children.

[00:02:43]>> Correct.

[00:02:44]>> Just for my own information, how long, Miss Williams did the protective order last so that Mr. Clarence couldn't see the children.

[00:02:53]>> It was for 3 years, but he was able to see the children through visitation, >> but how long was it that he did not see the children because of the protective order? Because that's part of his lawsuit.

[00:03:04]>> Okay. So, it was >> Mr. Clarence, how long in actuality was it that as a result of the restraining order, you could not see the children?

[00:03:15]>> Two years.

[00:03:16]>> Two years.

[00:03:17]>> That you didn't see them at all?

[00:03:18]>> At all?

[00:03:19]>> It was two years. Okay. So, you were living in a home together.

[00:03:24]>> Mhm. Yes, ma'am.

[00:03:25]>> On Valentine's Day, there was an argument.

[00:03:28]>> Correct.

[00:03:28]>> You called the police, >> correct?

[00:03:30]>> The police responded and told you to leave the house for a while.

[00:03:35]>> Yes.

[00:03:36]>> And you did leave the house.

[00:03:37]>> I did leave with my daughter.

[00:03:38]>> But you have two children.

[00:03:40]>> Two children because they told us that we have to split children or one stays with the other parent, the other one comes with.

[00:03:45]>> Okay. So, you have two kids. A girl who was how old? She was two at that time.

[00:03:51]>> And a boy?

[00:03:52]>> He was four at the time.

[00:03:54]>> So the boy stayed with his father.

[00:03:58]>> And you left with your daughter overnight, >> right?

[00:04:02]>> Did you come back?

[00:04:03]>> The next morning? Yes.

[00:04:04]>> She actually came back that same time at 2:00 a.m. I >> Well, the next morning. That's 2 a.m.

[00:04:09]Don't interrupt again. I'm sorry. Okay.

[00:04:11]>> So, you came back early in the morning?

[00:04:15]>> Yes.

[00:04:15]>> And what happened when you came back? I stayed in my vehicle with my daughter because I didn't want to go into the apartment. And then uh >> eventually you went into the apartment.

[00:04:25]Yes.

[00:04:26]>> What time did you go into the apartment?

[00:04:28]>> Which was 7:00 in the morning.

[00:04:30]>> And that was on the 15th of February.

[00:04:32]>> Correct.

[00:04:32]>> Who was home when you got home? On the 15th of February.

[00:04:36]>> It was Devon and our son.

[00:04:38]>> Was there any problem on the 15th? Um the 15th was when me and him had got into it as far as not verbal altercation. He didn't like what I had said to him and it we just started going off and um he came to a point where he just got mad and said, "Well, you know, why would you say anything like that?

[00:04:58]You know, I don't care about you." Um and then we started getting into another argument. Then that's when he had brought out a knife and put it on the kitchen counter said, "If you want to kill yourself, go ahead. I don't >> Okay, that just a second. That was the 15th." Yes, >> Miss Williams. You know, most couples have arguments.

[00:05:16]>> So, something had to have precipitated his statement because according to what you just told me, Mr. Clarence didn't take out a knife according to what you said and threatened you with it. He said to you, according to you, if you want to kill yourself, here's a mechanism to use it. What had you said to him immediately prior to that that inspired that? He told you he didn't love you anymore. He didn't want to be there with you anymore. And >> and that's when he said he didn't care.

[00:05:45]>> He didn't care. And you said >> wrong. And so I that's when I when he had took out the >> He said he didn't. No, you had to say something to him that says, "Well, if that's the way you feel, you go kill yourself." But you had to have said something to him before.

[00:06:01]It was the argument started with the kids, but then when he said that um you know he I didn't want you here anyway.

[00:06:08]You know it is just you know the relationship is pretty much dead so there's no reason to stay and if you want to leave you can leave.

[00:06:16]>> Is that what he said to you or is that what you said to him?

[00:06:19]>> Oh you said to him okay and then >> and then that's when he said well you know I don't love you no more. I don't care for you know >> but you said that and then what happened? And then afterwards, that's when um that's when he had went in the kitchen cuz there was I barely remember what happened after that cuz all I know is is that um when he had went into the kitchen, that's when he came back and said, "Okay, you know, you can kill yourself."

[00:06:46]>> Do you recall taking a knife and putting it either on a counter or on a tabletop and saying, "If you want to kill yourself?"

[00:06:53]>> No, ma'am. I don't recall that.

[00:06:55]>> Okay. But at that point, the police were not called. This was the day after the police had been called. This is February 15th. And Mr. Clarence left the house.

[00:07:05]>> Right. Correct.

[00:07:07]>> He left on the 15th. Did he come back >> a week after?

[00:07:10]>> So he was gone for one week.

[00:07:13]>> That brings us to the 20th. Did you communicate with him during that week?

[00:07:17]>> Yes.

[00:07:18]>> By phone?

[00:07:19]>> Yes. Text message.

[00:07:20]>> Do you have copies of the text message?

[00:07:22]Um, I do not know.

[00:07:25]>> Do you have copies? I'd like to see the messages that were >> So, this is the first >> traded >> in that week's period of time.

[00:07:33]>> And I also do have my text messages pulled up here on my phone. I don't get a hard copy.

[00:07:38]>> Okay, good. Tell me if this is what it says. You say to him, "I need my keys ASAP, please." That's a week after he left.

[00:07:47]>> Correct.

[00:07:47]>> What keys had he taken from you? He had taken my house key and my mother's home key. It was on my keychain.

[00:07:55]>> Okay. How did you get into the house for a week?

[00:07:57]>> I never left because he had it.

[00:07:59]>> You mean for a week? You weren't out of the house at all?

[00:08:02]>> At all. I had my kids. I lost my job.

[00:08:05]So, I was at home. I had no reason to leave. Really?

[00:08:08]>> Just a second. When did you lose your job? I lost my job a week prior because of the money he had taken out of account that I was going to pay for to ensure my job because I had little legal is um issues with my job.

[00:08:22]>> Well, tell me about that. That's not in here.

[00:08:25]>> Yeah.

[00:08:25]>> As far as um >> losing your job had nothing to do with him.

[00:08:29]>> No, it had everything cuz the reason being is the fact that I didn't have the money cuz I was a delivery driver. So I had to pay off a certain u citation that I was cited for.

[00:08:42]>> What what citation that you were cited for?

[00:08:44]>> It was speeding citation.

[00:08:47]>> So you got a speeding ticket which you had to pay. He didn't force you to speed. You did that yourself.

[00:08:54]>> Right. However, I had >> And you can't be a driver if they're going to take away your license.

[00:09:00]>> That was the thing. So I had needed the money. He had taken that money out of there and used it to pay somebody else.

[00:09:07]>> I don't know what you're talking about.

[00:09:08]Taking it out of where? A joint account.

[00:09:10]>> Out of a joint account. Yes, ma'am.

[00:09:11]>> Okay. The reason you lost your job had nothing to do with him. The reason you lost your job is because you drove in a way that you got a speeding ticket. Now, now let's get back to the 20th. So, you needed your house keys and your mother's house keys, which he had taken with him.

[00:09:26]>> Yes.

[00:09:27]>> Did you take the house keys?

[00:09:28]>> No, ma'am. The keys that were inside the house were to her mother's house, but her mother had changed the locks previously before. So really, they were just throwaway keys and the keys were just sitting inside of my glove box for months.

[00:09:38]>> But you went by and you returned the keys.

[00:09:41]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:09:41]>> Okay. He had taken those keys. He had taken those keys prior cuz he's always taking things with my possession.

[00:09:48]>> Okay. True.

[00:09:49]You asked him for your keys back, which means that during that interim period, the only text messages I see here, you asked him to come back to the house and bring you your keys. And I assume since there is no history that your mother's never had a history with him.

[00:10:07]>> Oh, yeah. She >> a violent history.

[00:10:10]>> It's not a violent, but more so she had her issues. They both had >> I don't care whether they had their issues. So if you needed your keys back, he could have dropped them off at your mother's. He didn't have to bring them to you.

[00:10:20]>> But she didn't allow him on the premises. That's why.

[00:10:23]>> Well, why would you have invited him back on the 20th if you had such a miserable experience on Valentine's Day?

[00:10:29]>> I didn't expect for him to sit there and um >> there was an alternative, but he came back on the 20th with the keys. Now, I want you to tell me on the 20th because this is your counter claim.

[00:10:43]You actually claimed that he assaulted you. So, I want you to tell me what happened on the 20th.

[00:10:48]>> The 20th, I had asked him for my keys back.

[00:10:50]>> Yes. And he came over.

[00:10:51]>> He came home from work. He had dropped off the key, came in, said hi to the kids, tucked them in bed. I was in a room, but that day I wasn't feeling good. So, I had to just, you know, excuse myself to go to the bathroom. I come back out, I see my phone being tossed on the bed by him as he was sitting there reading messages or whatever. So, I didn't say anything about it. He just said, "Okay, I'm about to go." I said, "Okay, cool." And um he kissed the kids and walked out.

[00:11:15]>> So he kissed the kids and he walked out.

[00:11:17]He walked into what room?

[00:11:18]>> He walked from the back room, our room where we u we were sleeping at, me and the kids, and he walked to the front door, out the door. So what happened was >> No, look here.

[00:11:29]>> He's leaving.

[00:11:30]>> He's leaving. And >> in a few moments, he had called me and he asked me, "What time is your job interview for the next day?" I told him, "May." And I asked him why. He said, "Well, I'm moving out. I'm getting all my things out of the house while you're there. I said, "Okay, well, why?"

[00:11:45]Because the front office is not going to just let you off the lease, you know.

[00:11:48]>> Well, you want to stay. He hadn't been there for a week.

[00:11:50]>> For just a week. Yeah. But I'm just asking because I don't know how we were going to go about it. So, that's when he had told me, "Don't act like I ain't seen you uh you ain't see me reading your messages. You know, I'm tired of you disrespecting me. I'm tired of you disobeying me. I'm tired of you, you know, talking to these dudes or venting and blah blah blah." like, you know, just going at me as if I'm disrespecting him. At this point, you left. So therefore, if I'm talking to a friend, what's the problem? Why are you looking through my phone? And this is nothing that you pay for.

[00:12:21]>> That's true. Snoopy.

[00:12:22]>> Yeah. So you're snooping around. So at this point, he's mad because of >> But he's not in the house.

[00:12:28]>> Yeah, he's not he's not in the house. So afterwards, I said, "If you want to leave, stay gone. I don't even care." He hung up in my face. I said, "Okay, I don't have time for dismiss." So I go in the back room, get ready for bed. I put my phone on the charger and I lay down and he's knocking on the door really hard. Kid sleep. So I'm go to the front door and that's when he opened the door and he just like in my face like don't be disrespecting me. Don't be doing that. And I'm just like okay bro you need to get out of my face first of all and he just said okay well you know what forget it. I'm leaving. I'm just going to pack my stuff up and I'm leaving. The whole time he's like packing his things in the car.

[00:13:03]>> Okay. So he's packing >> correct. So when he packed his things, he was just, you know, talking and he went in the back room and that's when I had followed him in the back room cuz he's known he was going to take my things and then that's when he had came out and said, "Good luck finding your phone charger." Where's my phone charger? Cuz it's not on the bed.

[00:13:22]Where's my phone charger, bro? So I blocked him so he could get me my things. And he said, "I don't know. I don't know where your phone charger is, Devon. Where's my phone charger?" "I don't know. Now move." And he did a shoulder thrust. So I'm like, "Okay, bro." I grabbed his lanyard. He had his work ID. I grabbed his lanyard from around his head.

[00:13:38]>> So, you put your hands on him.

[00:13:40]>> Just a second. You put your hands on him because the lanyard That's what it says here.

[00:13:45]>> No.

[00:13:45]>> No. That's what it says in your papers.

[00:13:47]You acknowledge that.

[00:13:49]>> Oh, that you grabbed his badge, but his badge was on a lanyard that was around his neck. So, you put your hands on him.

[00:13:57]>> So, yeah. So, it was it was more so to take his things so he could give me back my phone charger. I needed for my job which was around his neck >> for was around his neck and I took his glasses off his face >> and then what happened >> and then that's when he had turned around dropped all of his things and he turned around and he start tussling and then um try to get his things so I said no give me charger so far what I'm hearing is there was lots of nasty stuff going on he's packing his things giving you the best possible scenario he took your phone charger you didn't see him take your phone charger, but it was on the bed according to you and then it wasn't on the bed anymore.

[00:14:37]>> Correct.

[00:14:37]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:14:37]>> Right. So, in response to that, you put your hands on him twice. Once with a lanyard that had his badge on it, >> right?

[00:14:46]>> And then you grabbed his glasses off his face, >> but never hurt him.

[00:14:50]>> Just a never >> just a second. You put your hands on him, not in a happy way. You put your hands on him in an aggressive way. No, >> because Oh, yes. If you grab somebody's glasses off their face, madam, and grab a lanyard from around their neck, that's aggressive. He may not have been hurt as a result of that, but you have to know you're not allowed to put your hands on somebody else in anger.

[00:15:19]>> It was not angry. I'm took him. I didn't touch him or hurt him. It was never aggressive. I just wanted my things back and I didn't touch him or choke him or anything.

[00:15:28]I I got I'm just telling you what the law is. You put your hands on him in an aggressive way because you wanted your charger back.

[00:15:35]>> Okay?

[00:15:35]>> Which he had taken, but he had not taken off your person. If he took it, he had taken it from where you left it because he was annoyed that you were texting other guys according to you cuz he had been gone for a week. You can text whoever you like. Okay. So now you've taken his glasses off and you've taken his badge off which was on a lanyard.

[00:15:55]What happened next?

[00:15:57]>> After he turned around and he >> started to tussle with you, which is what you said things and then afterwards we fell over the couch and at this point he had his forearm on my neck. So at this I can't breathe.

[00:16:09]>> No ma'am.

[00:16:10]>> I told him get off of me. Devon, you're hurting me. You're choking me. I cannot breathe. Please get off of me. Get off me.

[00:16:15]>> He's on you with his arm on your with his forearm on your neck. And >> so at this point he gets his things. He grabs his stuff.

[00:16:24]>> Okay. So he not choking you anymore and >> he gets up and he um >> look at me >> put his glasses on and then at this point he's he's standing over me. I'm still on the floor and I'm telling him to get off of me or not.

[00:16:39]>> No, he's already he's already off of you, Miss Williams. He's gotten his things. He put his glasses on, which means both hands were >> putting his glasses on. So he's not on top of you anymore.

[00:16:51]>> But he's standing over me. So he was stand and >> I push him away. I said, "Get out. Get out. I don't want you here. Get out.

[00:16:58]Please get out." So at this point, I'm shoving him away from me.

[00:17:01]>> Okay. So again, he's standing there and you're pushing him.

[00:17:05]>> Yes. Pushing him away from me. And then that's when he did a close fist and hit me right here on the side of my face.

[00:17:11]>> Okay.

[00:17:12]>> So I passed out. I didn't know you like I blacked out. And then after I had gotten up and I cried, I said, "Why did you hit me? Why would you hit me like this?" like why? And then he just kept going back and forth.

[00:17:26]>> Back and forth where?

[00:17:27]>> From the front door to the back room.

[00:17:28]Back room to the front door.

[00:17:29]>> Was he taking his things out?

[00:17:31]>> I don't know where he was taking.

[00:17:32]>> Okay. So, he's going from the back door to the front door, but he had packed his things, >> right?

[00:17:37]>> Okay.

[00:17:37]>> So, I get up and that's when he turned around and I can't right now. I'm in balance. I can't even stand up, right?

[00:17:46]Cuz he whacked me so hard. So at this point he stood up and said, "You want to fight me? Fight me."

[00:17:53]>> True.

[00:17:54]>> And he put up his hands. So that's when I put up my hands and then I went to hit him and then that's when he had started throwing punches at me like back to back to back to back and I busted my lips. So okay. So let me understand this. You both got up and he said, "You want to fight me?" So you put up your hands.

[00:18:14]Both of you put up your hands and you went to punch him. That's what you just told me. Missed, I assume. And then he hit you.

[00:18:23]>> Yes.

[00:18:24]>> Okay. So again, you went to punch him and I missed. And that's when he >> Okay. Fine. And now I got it. And then >> And then that's when he start hitting me.

[00:18:34]>> Okay. So now he >> Now you're fighting.

[00:18:37]>> Yes.

[00:18:38]>> Go ahead.

[00:18:38]>> And um I told him to stop soon as I saw blood was everywhere. literally on the wall in the floor and he stopped.

[00:18:45]>> But let me ask you this question. From all this fighting and tussling, was Mr. Clarence visibly hurt anywhere?

[00:18:54]>> No.

[00:18:54]>> Did he have any mark whatsoever? So, you never connected with him in anything that you did so far. Correct?

[00:19:01]>> No, ma'am. I had scratches upon my on my neck and I didn't she did not throw her um put her hands up to fight me. She actually threw a car battery at my hands.

[00:19:09]>> A car? No. That is so untrue. I have pictures of the car battery and it being broken if you would like to see that.

[00:19:14]>> Okay, I'm going to get to you in a second. Anyway, that's when he left. Did you go to work?

[00:19:20]>> No, ma'am.

[00:19:21]>> What did you do?

[00:19:22]>> So, I had to go sleep in my car because I didn't have my glasses.

[00:19:25]>> Where were your glasses?

[00:19:26]>> Inside the house.

[00:19:27]>> So, you left without your glasses?

[00:19:29]>> Yes, ma'am. I >> He had his glasses on that night the whole time.

[00:19:32]>> Is that what your testimony said? Sh.

[00:19:34]>> I'm sorry.

[00:19:35]>> I'm not there with you.

[00:19:36]>> Okay. When did you call the police, Miss Williams?

[00:19:39]>> I didn't. He took my phone.

[00:19:41]>> Okay. Well, somehow the police were contacted.

[00:19:45]>> I don't know how they were contacted. I had to escape him.

[00:19:49]>> When you escaped him on the 20th, did you take your children?

[00:19:52]>> I took them. Yes, I did.

[00:19:54]>> Was he in the house?

[00:19:55]>> He was inside and out of the house. So, Yiana, can I >> Yeah.

[00:20:01]>> Can I add one more thing? So, after all that happened, that's when he did leave.

[00:20:06]I had the opportunity to get his clothes. I put his car battery in the hamper that he was packing his stuff at.

[00:20:12]Threw it outside of the the apartment and then I closed the door, locked it so he wouldn't get in. So, at this point, I'm looking for the phone to call the emergency services. However, he goes up to the window and says, "Looking for this," and it was my phone. So, I had to find another device in the house to try to at least get a recording or to find something to say, you know, I have to verify this because I feel like nobody's going to believe me if even if I was, you know, if I made this up. So, I had to record it off my son's table that I have a video of the injuries of the night that it happened. I >> But you have hospital records because you say that you went to the hospital the next day.

[00:20:53]>> Yes, ma'am. I did. I went to the hospital and they diagnosed me.

[00:20:56]>> No, no, no. I want to see the hospital records.

[00:20:59]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:21:00]>> Okay. So, you weren't admitted to the hospital. You were just seen by somebody the next day. What time the next day?

[00:21:06]>> It was around 11 10:00. My mother had taken me to the hospital.

[00:21:10]>> How did you get in touch with your mother?

[00:21:11]>> After I left the house when I >> Well, how did you leave the house? Right now, he's locked out. You locked the door.

[00:21:16]>> So, >> and you're looking for something to record him >> and you found something to record him, >> which is my son's tablet. and >> and that's when I went into the living room. I brought my kids to the living room with me and I had to wait it out because I didn't want to go out there like he was just going crazy like monstrosity. But I was afraid to go out there. So that's when I had locked in. I locked myself in, waited until the morning. He could not go 24 hours without going to sleep. So I said, I'm going to take my advantage, wait till he goes to sleep. He went to sleep in his car and I got my keys and I grabbed my two kids barefooted and all. No clothes.

[00:21:58]And he the alarm.

[00:22:00]>> Just a second. So you grabbed your kids >> and took them out to your truck.

[00:22:05]>> Yes.

[00:22:05]>> And drove where?

[00:22:06]>> I drove to my auntie house.

[00:22:08]>> At what time? This is on the 21st.

[00:22:11]>> Yes. The 21st. It was around 7 8:00 in the morning.

[00:22:16]>> And you drove to your aunt's house. And what did you do? I went into my auntie's and she called my mom. When she called my mom, that's when my mom had came over to her house and saw the injuries. And she said, "We need to go to the hospital because we don't know how bad or how severe your injuries are." So that's when I was like, "Okay, I can go to the hospital." And she drove me there. Um I couldn't make a police report or assault report with the hospital because they were going No. You can't tell me what happened at the hospital that you couldn't.

[00:22:48]>> Right.

[00:22:48]>> You went to the hospital >> and then >> you >> weren't admitted. You were seen by a doctor by the doctor. Um I I wasn't in fact admitted.

[00:22:57]>> If you were admitted to a hospital, I want to see those medical records.

[00:23:01]>> Okay.

[00:23:01]>> This isn't a medical record. This is a one pager on a visit that you had where you complained about an assault and the doctor did notice some abrasions on your face.

[00:23:12]>> Okay. Um, >> doesn't say you were admitted anywhere.

[00:23:16]>> I'm sorry. I don't have that one on me.

[00:23:18]>> Okay. So, now let's move on. So, you drove your kids about 10 miles to your aunt's house. You stayed at your aunt's house for a while. Your aunt called your mother. Your mother came and said, "I think we should go to the hospital and check out your injuries." And >> and that's >> I want to know how the police got involved.

[00:23:35]>> So, the hospital called the police.

[00:23:38]>> So, you're saying it wasn't you? The hospital called the police. So, the police came to the hospital.

[00:23:43]>> The police came, but they wasn't able to like I don't I don't know how to explain it. It was one of a county issue with um with this.

[00:23:51]>> You want to tell me? Yes.

[00:23:52]>> Yes. She'll be able to tell you better.

[00:23:56]>> So, judge, when we went to the hospital, so the hospital is between Harris County Sheriff's Department and HPD. So, when we >> Well, he was arrested somewhere.

[00:24:06]>> So, he was arrested somewhere. On what date were you arrested?

[00:24:09]>> I was arrested on February 24th. So, 4 days after this incident.

[00:24:13]>> Okay. I assume you asked your daughter what happened when you either driving to the hospital or when you got to your sister's house.

[00:24:19]>> Yes.

[00:24:20]>> At the time you asked her what happened, did she tell you that they had been in a fight?

[00:24:24]>> Well, I can see they had been in a fight.

[00:24:26]>> Well, but um >> No, there's a difference between a fight, which is mutual combat, >> right?

[00:24:33]>> And an assault, which suggests that there was only one victim >> and one perpetrator. Yes.

[00:24:41]>> So, what I want to know is whether your daughter discussed with you the facts that she's just relayed to me.

[00:24:48]>> That's a question, not a huh, >> right?

[00:24:51]>> Did she tell you that they were fighting?

[00:24:55]>> Yes, she did.

[00:24:56]>> Did she tell you that she at any point put her hands on him?

[00:24:59]>> No. And she didn't because her mouth was so bad. She couldn't explain.

[00:25:05]>> She did. She just told me.

[00:25:07]>> Yes. But she didn't explain it to me that way.

[00:25:09]>> I know. But she just explained it to me that way. I'm not putting a judicial impimeter on anybody's assaultive conduct.

[00:25:18]>> Right.

[00:25:19]>> But you have to understand that in a fight somebody ends up at the bottom of the barrel and somebody at the top of the barrel.

[00:25:26]>> I agree.

[00:25:27]>> By that at some point he got up and she went to throw a punch at him and missed.

[00:25:32]>> Right.

[00:25:33]>> And then he punched her and he continued to punch her. You did hear that? Yes, I did.

[00:25:40]>> Okay. Okay. Now, I'm going to see a video.

[00:25:44]>> Just pressfully.

[00:25:52]>> The line is hitting me. I have no phone.

[00:25:55]He took my phone. He took everything.

[00:25:57]And I'm helpless. So, I'm trying to get out of here, but I need I need proof.

[00:26:05]This is proof. Easy. You can go on me.

[00:26:08]I have blood everywhere.

[00:26:16]I have blood everywhere.

[00:26:18]Oh my god. I'm I'm scared. I'm scared, dude. He is crazy. He is really really crazy.

[00:26:27]>> Okay. Would it be a fair statement, Mr. Clarence, that you did in fact punch her in the mouth?

[00:26:33]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:26:34]>> Okay. And I want you to tell me because I see she's injured. Her mouth is injured. I want you to tell me in your own voice.

[00:26:43]>> What precipitated that? Because that's a nasty hit in the mouth.

[00:26:47]>> So when we flipped over the couch, I stood up and she says she push pushed me off, but she actually reached her hands up and grabbed me by the testicles and that's when I punched her. Right after punching her, she let go. I ran to the door. When I ran to the door, she followed behind me with a car battery.

[00:27:04]She picked it up and she tossed it in my direction, which caused for me to have an injury to my hand. You >> have photographs of that?

[00:27:11]>> Yes, ma'am. I did.

[00:27:12]>> That's not true. As far as the battery just >> This was taken a couple days afterwards when the swelling went down.

[00:27:20]>> By whom?

[00:27:21]>> By me.

[00:27:24]>> Was that the only injury that you sustained?

[00:27:26]>> No, ma'am. I'm also sus from when she was choking me with my work lanyard. I also have pictures of my neck >> that was taken that next morning.

[00:27:36]>> True.

[00:27:37]>> Don't speak. Don't speak.

[00:27:44]>> You're talking about this cut?

[00:27:46]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:27:47]>> And where was that?

[00:27:49]>> That's on my neck. No, it's right here across the front. Oh, >> I see. Okay.

[00:27:57]Go ahead.

[00:27:58]>> So, when we were tussling, um, so she threw the car battery at my hand. I look down at my hand. I look at the broken door knob. And when I'm looking at the broken door knob, I look back up.

[00:28:07]>> Which Which door knob is >> the front door? Well, from when I grabbed the the door, and when she tossed it, it hit my hand and slammed the door knob down.

[00:28:16]>> Okay.

[00:28:16]>> So, I looked down at my hand and I see nothing but white inside of my hand. My hand was bleeding. Well, start was about to start bleeding, but I saw the white, I saw the bone, I saw everything. So I looked up and I was like, "What did you do? Are you crazy?" And at that point, she says, "I don't care anymore." She grabs me by my shirt and she pulls me into the house and starts punching me.

[00:28:37]>> At that point, when she starts punching me, I was like, "You know what? That's that's it." And I start going back at with her.

[00:28:42]>> After punches were exchanged, I left.

[00:28:45]>> Judge, those are the punches on the video that he did. Just a second. I saw that she had an injury. He acknowledges that he hit her in the mouth. So, what I want to also add to that because I saw him that same morning, I talked to him.

[00:28:58]He claimed at 7:00 in the morning, he was on his way to a funeral.

[00:29:01]>> I told him, I said, "Well, look, I just spoke with my sister. I'm going by and get the kids some stuff. Don't come to the apartment." He shows up. Nothing wrong. I didn't see a scratch anywhere.

[00:29:12]And I asked him, "Why are you here?"

[00:29:13]"Well, I just come let you know that I filed a police report." "Why are you here?" Sh just a second. So he filed a police report. Can I see a copy of that police report? Do you have it?

[00:29:25]>> I do not have a copy of the police report.

[00:29:27]>> So after he told you that he filed a police report, you went back to your sister's house. I assume you got >> No, I hadn't went to my sister's house.

[00:29:36]So my sister called me >> to go get things. Just a second, Rick.

[00:29:41]>> Mhm.

[00:29:42]>> Your sister called you and told you that your daughter was there with your grandchildren, >> right? could you go and pick up things for them?

[00:29:50]>> Right.

[00:29:51]>> So, you drove over to the apartment where they had lived together.

[00:29:56]>> Right.

[00:29:56]>> He came.

[00:29:57]>> Right.

[00:29:58]>> Said, "I've just filed a police report against your daughter."

[00:30:01]>> Right.

[00:30:02]>> Then you went to your sister's house and you decided to go to the emergency room of the hospital.

[00:30:08]>> Yes.

[00:30:08]>> And then you filed a police report or your daughter did.

[00:30:11]>> We didn't file it at the hospital.

[00:30:13]>> No. No. I didn't say at the hospital.

[00:30:14]Subsequently, you filed a police report.

[00:30:17]>> Correct. Mhm.

[00:30:18]>> Do you have a copy of that police report?

[00:30:20]>> I have my affidavit.

[00:30:22]>> I don't want an affidavit. I want report. We should have >> copy of the police report.

[00:30:28]>> Um, that's it.

[00:30:29]>> That's it.

[00:30:30]>> Okay, Kevin.

[00:30:33]>> Alongside with my injuries that uh >> I saw your injury.

[00:30:43]Well, this police report the charges assault of a family member impeding breathing.

[00:30:49]>> Yes. And the affidavit reads, "Defendant on or about February 20th did then and there unlawfully, intentionally and knowingly cause bodily injury to Safari Williams, the complainant, with whom the defendant had a dating relationship by impeding the normal breathing and circulation of blood by applying pressure to the complainant's throat."

[00:31:15]Okay. So, right here I have um a copy of the motion to dismiss which shows that they um they dropped the impeding breath showing that I did not choke her.

[00:31:28]>> That we know the case was dismissed. Do you have a copy of the uh visitation order? You don't have joint custody cuz they you indicated you had joint custody in >> We have joint custody now.

[00:31:38]>> When were you granted joint custody?

[00:31:40]>> August 1st.

[00:31:41]>> Was that after the mediation?

[00:31:42]>> After the mediation. Yes, ma'am. And Miss Williams, did you consent to the joint custody or did the mediator after the trial recommend joint custody?

[00:31:52]>> Yes, I did consent to it.

[00:31:53]>> You did. And that was the mediator's recommendation.

[00:31:56]>> Correct.

[00:31:57]>> Okay. The only thing I have to ask you, Mr. Clarence, is for what period of time from the 20th of February, was it until August or October that you didn't see the children? So actually it wasn't actually until that June orders were signed October. She failed to sign the children up for the domestic relation office for the supervised visitation.

[00:32:20]She failed to sign them up for another 6 months.

[00:32:22]>> Not true.

[00:32:23]>> That's >> so it was an additional 6 months.

[00:32:25]>> An additional 6 months.

[00:32:26]>> Okay.

[00:32:27]>> Judge during that time where he was saying that he was trying to see the kids, he wasn't paying child support.

[00:32:34]>> I don't care whether he was or whether he wasn't. I wouldn't pay child support if I had an order that said I couldn't see my children. Do you understand?

[00:32:42]>> But but it wasn't one it wasn't one of those keep children type things away. It definitely wasn't. And when >> Miss Williams, Miss Williams, I'm done with this case. I got it in his complaint.

[00:32:56]>> The only one that I find actually viable because they did in fact both of them engage in domestic violence against each other on February 20th.

[00:33:08]Don't Don't This is not a I say you say this is >> because I went into the apartment and he had tape. He had electrical tape on the door. He kept my door.

[00:33:17]>> I want you to not speak. I want you to listen.

[00:33:22]>> I'm finished with the factf finding in this case. Your daughter and Mr. Clarence had a domestic incident on February 20th. It is clear to me that your daughter got the worst of the physical bargain, but she was in fact the aggressor. She did in fact put her hands on him first. I'm not asking you a question. I'm telling you based upon what she told me. She put her hands on him first twice. They had a fight. It was unpleasant and she ended up certainly more injured than he did. It was nasty.

[00:34:08]>> Yes, it was.

[00:34:09]>> There is not a cintillaa of evidence that Mr. Clarence should have been denied seeing his children as a result of a restraining order for over a year.

[00:34:20]>> He wasn't >> there. I'm just a second. Sit. Now you don't get it. Okay.

[00:34:25]>> Now you don't get it. I'm not listening to you. Now, I'm ruling there is not a centilla of evidence that Mr. Clarence, who lived with these children for 4 and 1/2 years, who took care of them regularly alone, should have been denied seeing his children for over a year. And that's what happened because she asked for a restraining order that included the children. That's what happened. And that's outrageous because two adults who have children can fight with each other and they can be angry with each other and they can be vicious with each other, which they were, but they created two children. And the proof of the pudding is in the tasting because after it was all said and done, Mr. Clarence has joint custody of the children. So for a person that went from not being able to see his children then to supervise visits because that's what he asked for and that took an additional 6 months.

[00:35:26]That is an outrageous outcome.

[00:35:30]Outrageous.

[00:35:32]Because I know that you would think it was outrageous if Mr. Clarence prevented your daughter from seeing the children for two days. For one day, I would I would think it was outrageous.

[00:35:48]And in this country, mothers and fathers have the same rights to children. Not their her children or his children. They are their children. And if she feels threatened by him and had a protective order, that's okay. But then you are cooperative with regard to seeing the children either in a supervised manner or some other manner. But asking for a restraining order that includes the children when there was never any indication that Mr. Clarence was an irresponsible parent is outrageous. I find that on the cross complaint for assault, I find that Miss Williams was in fact seriously injured in her mouth as a result of this altercation. I also find that she was the provocator because she put her hands on him first. So, I'm dismissing your cross complaint and I'm granting your complaint, Mr. declarance with regard to the children and the protective order which precluded you from seeing your children for that length of time. Do you understand?

[00:36:48]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:36:49]>> Judgment for the plaintiff in the amount of $5,000 on that issue alone. The remainder of your complaint is dismissed. Your counter claim is dismissed for the reasons that I've stated. We're finished here. Thank you.

[00:36:59]>> Thank you, judge. This court is a >> I don't believe that I was ever the aggressor. He was always the person to gaslight me, especially when he bought the kids or he always taken the kids.

[00:37:08]I've never gas lit her. I've always told her exactly what things are. Told her the truth on matters. And a lot of people just can't handle the truth on things. So if you can't handle the you can't handle the heat, get out the kitchen then.

[00:37:18]>> He saw that I didn't care anymore. He saw that I dried just dried up and just said, "You know what? It's done." So if you want to leave, leave, please.

[00:37:27]>> No, I that day I had a cool head. I tried to my best to get out that situation. Um made many attempts of beine for the door and she just wouldn't let me she wouldn't let me leave. I just want to be a mom just like he want to be a dad so that let me be a mom but I could never get that from him. So >> I try to keep things cordial so the way my children can grow up in a in a um favorable a favorable household. I think a big thing that I'm sure happens, you've seen it far more frequently than I have, but I'm sure it happens a lot, is mothers or or fathers, but mostly mothers who get into domestic violence situations or even assaults, even though here we decided that it was more of a mutual combat situation, but even so, they feel that they need a restraining order to protect themselves from their partner. And that's fair. You know, you feel threatened your life, your safety.

[00:38:15]Um, but that does not automatically transfer to children like you said that you share together because as we saw here with very little, you know, we found out in the first five minutes of questioning that this was more of a mutual combat than a one-sided assault.

[00:38:30]>> Um, >> she just got the worst of >> course, but still not enough to keep a man from his children for over a year.

[00:38:37]>> You know, it's sort of interesting. It's easier and safer for judges, for family court judges or criminal court judges to sign off on these sweeping protective orders that cover place of work, your home, the children's school, the children. It just is easier to check all the boxes and say, "We'll take care of it at trial." Well, that might be okay if everybody gets a trial in a week.

[00:39:02]>> In this case, it took three years for it to be resolved. So >> for something he probably should have had from the beginning, joint custody, you know, given that they both cared for the children together >> and certainly not deprived of any contact whatsoever for well over a year.

[00:39:17]Yeah.

[00:39:18]>> Okay.

[00:39:18]>> Thank you, >> man. This relationship was already dead before the fight even happened. You can hear it in the way they talked to each other. No trust, no respect, no communication, just constant anger building up until somebody finally snapped. And honestly, the biggest mistake here started way before the physical fight. These two were together since middle school. They lived together, had kids together, built an entire life together, but they never learned how to separate emotions from chaos. The Valentine's Day argument already showed the relationship was collapsing. Police literally had to come to the house and split the children between the parents for the night. That alone tells you how toxic the environment already was. Then things get even worse. Safari comes back home the next morning. They start arguing again, talking about the relationship ending.

[00:40:09]And according to Safari, Devon supposedly puts a knife on the counter and says, "If you want to kill yourself, go ahead." That's already dark. But then comes the real disaster. A week later, he returns to drop off keys. And this is where the entire situation spirals out of control over something unbelievably stupid. A phone charger. That's the crazy part. Not money. Not cheating proof, not some huge betrayal, a phone charger. But the real issue wasn't the charger. It was jealousy. According to Safari, Devon supposedly looked through her phone messages before leaving and got angry seeing her talking to other guys. That's why he came back heated.

[00:40:48]And once jealousy enters a toxic relationship, logic disappears. Now both people start escalating. She grabs his lanyard, takes his glasses, blocks him from leaving. Then he allegedly puts his forearm on her neck. Then she pushes him. Then he punches her. Then both start swinging. At that point, the relationship was completely destroyed.

[00:41:09]And honestly, one thing Judge Judy kept pointing out was important. Safari admitted multiple times that she put her hands on him first. A lot of people ignore that part. Now, does that justify punching somebody in the face hard enough to leave blood everywhere?

[00:41:25]Absolutely not. But this wasn't some random one-sided fairy tale story. This was two angry people escalating a fight step by step until it turned violent.

[00:41:34]And the saddest part, the kids were trapped in the middle of all of it.

[00:41:38]That's the real tragedy here. Because while both adults were busy fighting, screaming, checking phones, arguing over respect and control, the children lost their family 2 years without seeing his kids. That's brutal. Whether you believe Devon or Safari Moore, everybody lost in this situation. The relationship died, the trust died, the home died, and now everything is just court papers, accusations, and trauma. And honestly, this case proves something people never want to admit. Some couples are addicted to drama more than they are addicted to love. Because normal, healthy relationships don't end with police splitting children, accusations, bloody fights, restraining orders, and courtrooms years later. That's not love.

[00:42:23]That's emotional destruction. And another thing, if your relationship gets to the point where somebody is checking phones, grabbing charges, taking glasses off faces, screaming about respect, and fighting in front of kids, it's already over. You just haven't accepted it yet.

[00:42:38]Both of them kept trying to win the argument and ended up destroying the entire family instead. That's the real loss here. If you enjoyed this breakdown and want more savage courtroom reactions like this, support the channel, subscribe, and drop a comment with the next case you want covered.