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#Raiders TDL draft show: FILM REVIEW FEATURING TREY ZUHN III AND KEYRON CRAWFORDAdded:
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>> All right. So, uh today we're doing uh Trey Zoom the third, right? And uh Kron Crawford. So, we're going to dive deep dive into the the other day two picks besides Trayon Stokes. Raiders uh pick Crawford at 67, I believe, and then uh Trezun at 91. And then uh so yeah, so we're going to be deep diving into those two today. Um nothing really else going on in Raider Land. Nothing uh crazy. Um Spy Techch said that they like the wide receivers. That was some news a little bit. They like their their guys.
I would love for a GM one time to like end of the draft be like no I hate that position group.
Like our wide receivers are ass. Like I messed that up. Like has anyone ever like has that ever happened?
You ever like a coach ever been just like man this this position group sucks?
>> Every time that happens it's like yeah we we like the guys. Then you just lift off the li off the guys that are on the depth chart. Just read it off.
>> Yeah. Yeah. this this these guys all around us, man. They are ass. So, we're definitely going to be looking for some new players. If he doesn't like what we like in the draft, I doesn't mean we actually like the receiver role. We hate it. You know, that's what they wanted him to say, but you know.
>> Yeah. Got to tell the company line, I guess, a little bit there.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And then, uh, Ricky Camp started today uh when we're recording this show, but like I mean, I don't know what that really means at this point because there's nothing really covered.
I mean, we get to see Mendoza.
We've hit uh the slow-mo practice footage like portion of the season. Like we got the slow-mo cam of like uh of Fernando Mendoza like running out to his footh hoot onto the field for the first time. So yeah, that's the point we are in the offseason when and just just wait till the summer when that's all we have to go off of and all we have is like a slow-mo pass. Like I can see it now like Mendoza is going to drop back in the pocket as soon as he lets it go. They'll slow it down. Bowers puts his hands up, catches it, pulls it in and then they put pulls it back to the uh to the video. I'm calling that calling my shot on that one now. That's one of the first videos we get from uh from training camp and and OTAAS. So that's that's the point of the offseason we're about to hit just to let you guys know.
>> Yeah. So it makes a throw. He's gonna make a throws to EJ Williams which I said I said Fitzgerald the whole episode last time. People make sure I knew that.
It's EJ Williams. Sorry EJ. Uh for calling you Eli Fitzgerald for a whole episode.
>> My apologies.
Yeah, I should have picked up on it.
When you said it, I'm like, is that his name? I like couldn't remember. So, I'm like, I guess I can't say anything at this point.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And I I I thought I was right the whole time until somebody said in the comments. I was like, "Oh [ __ ] my man.
I I don't know why I thought I was for sure." No idea. Maybe it was a seven. I don't know. But no, the fish were one in college. I don't know. I was thinking I don't know. Who knows? Who knows, guys?
Who knows about that? Yeah. So, uh, we're gonna do Trey Zoo the third and Kron Crawford today. So, Matt, uh, let us know about Kron Crawford.
>> Yeah. So, I mean, like I've talked about a little bit before, like I I get the idea with Keon Crawford, you know, he's a guy that hasn't played a ton of football, didn't start playing until his high school year or senior year of high school. Um, and then obviously had the two years at Arkansas State and the two years at Auburn. So, he's only really been playing football for five seasons.
So, you're not expecting him to have perfect technique and and all that. But and then on top of it too, like the basketball background, like he's obviously a high level athlete and you see that show up on his pass rush uh on his pass rush clips. Like he'll win like he'll have a handful of wins where he's just more athletic and uh he's got a really nasty like euro step where he can just cross the face um cross the face of an offensive tackle and beat him that way. The biggest thing for me is like his use of hands needs a lot of work.
Uh, I think like he's he has flashes where like we'll even see a handful of clips where like he puts it all together and that's like a really dominant rep to be able to win and go get a sack or go get a quarterback hit and stuff like that. But right now when I think the I think the thing that's holding him back is just inconsistent with it. um for the most part where like he'll have reps where he doesn't get a clean win and uh and you know his athleticism stands out, but he's not knocking the offensive tackles hands down and kind of letting them hang on to him and that kind of ends up impacting his ability to get to get sacks or even quarterback hits and get a little bit more pressure on the quarterback. So, um that's kind of where I'm at with him where I again I like the idea. I like the vision. This draft wasn't made for next season. This is made for 2027 and beyond. We've said that a bunch this off season.
>> Yeah.
>> But um for me it's just with a pick that was in the top 75, I would have liked to seen a guy that was a little bit more cleaner and a little bit more of a finished project, whereas I feel like Crawford would have would have been more valuable. I guess maybe even at 91 where they ended up taking Trey Zoon or or in in the fourth round. But uh again, I get the vision and I think there's a chance that he could end up becoming a quality pass rusher in the NFL and a good pass rusher for the Raiders. I just feel like especially with the edge room where it's at right now with yeah the top three spots for next season um pretty much accounted for between Max Crosby, Quiddyp Pay and Malcolm Coons barring a trade of of one of those guys before training camp. it's going to be hard for Kon Crawford to excuse me to uh get much playing time as a rookie. And I feel like he could be on a similar like career trajectory as Malcolm Coun where if you remember Kun's first two years in the league like he barely played. He barely saw the field and then he had that big year in 2023 or the his third year in the league camp. I think that was 2023.
>> Yeah, it was.
>> Yeah. So, I think that's kind of where if you're looking at Kiron Kiron Crawford, like I think there's probably a lot of similarities and a lot you you can draw from from Coun when he was coming out of Buffalo. Uh, and he was I mean, he was a third round pick, too.
Um, come for the Raiders. So, that's that's just where I'm at. Like, I get the vision. I get the potential and I can I can definitely agree with that.
It's just you're taking a little bit of a risk and in in a guy that you're going to have to work with and you're going to have to uh um kind of iron out. Like I do love his athleticism, but the one thing that does kind of give me a little bit of qual is he's not the longest dude in the world. Like I think he's only has like 32 inch arms, >> which you kind of want to see like 33 inches. That's not necessarily the biggest biggest issue. Like Max Crosby, he's he's below 33 inches. So is Coons, too, ironically, >> but um that's just kind of like one of those other things. It's like, all right, well, we're betting on a guy that has athletic potential and has high upside, but he and he h again, he is a good athlete, but he didn't test, so we don't know how great of an athlete he really is. And on top of it, he's not doesn't have like it's not like he has freaky length or anything like that. So, >> but again, I do get the vision and I do think there's potential for him to contribute as a pass rusher down the line and maybe grow into complete uh the defender, but um it's just just the pick was just a little rich for me for for the player, I guess. Yeah, and I I definitely can see what you're saying. I mean, because he he is explosive off the edge. Like, he's an explosive player.
Like, you can tell that he has a lot of potential to be a great pass rusher, right? And I think that, you know, he can get physical, too, at times. I mean, it's just you can just kind of tell that he's just out there just kind of playing football. Like, it's not really like a I would say like he he has like a pass rush plan and things like that. Like, he doesn't have a plan. He's not setting things up. He's not, you know what I mean? Like he's just out there rushing the passer, you know? He's just getting after the quarterback, you know, and, you know, the athleticism that he does have, you see on film, he could beat some guys just naturally like that. Um, especially when he, you know, you talk about that Euro Step move. I've seen that, too. Um, so yeah, there is potential because even with the pressures he gets, you know, I talked about this on the my the radio spot I did that >> you could tell that he he doesn't know how to finish yet, >> right? because you're turning you have these pressures tonight leading to sacks like that. Um so he's got to learn how to finish a little bit and um I think that's going to be something he's got to learn too as well and that's going to come with having that plan having that pass rush plan itself.
>> Yeah, >> which he doesn't have. So yeah, he's just a raw player. That's really I mean they went raw at 67 really. I tell you what, you teed up part of my breakdown, too, because I'm gonna show a handful of clips where like I feel like with again tying it back to like the his hand uses and stuff like that where I think he can uh be able to finish a little bit better and and um and turn those pressures into sacks more often. The one thing I would push back on that you said on it is like I do think he actually is pretty good at setting up his moves. see like with that euro step that kind of what you're talking about where like he'll do a good job of like getting to square like just kind of like faking the out the inside move to like get the tackle to stop his feet and then hitting that euro step to get across their face and uh and and win on the outside. That's definitely one something I really liked about his game.
But I I can agree with you for sure about the pass rush plan and stuff like that.
>> Yeah. All right. So, um one the guy I am doing um Keon Crawford actually got one of the sacks two. He gave up two sacks.
Kron Crawford was one of them.
>> See, he's one of them. Uh is Trey Zun the third. So Trey Zoo is a pick that, you know, a lot of fans got on me because I wasn't the most excited about it when it happened. You know, some fan told me that everybody else likes why don't you? am like uh well I mean very I kind of like to say I think for myself sometimes but uh but um and and when I went to the film is exactly how I felt about it like Zoom the third especially um you know because he had a lot of reps at center so that's I'm basically showing that center today I'm like I'm not going to really get too much into tackle just kind of focus on center maybe a couple clips of tackle >> um >> but he could pass protect that's one thing he could He pass pretty well. He has uh I think he has pretty good feet.
I think he has good hand placement. Um you know, his punch timing is pretty good. Um is and when he he does a good job of what I would say countering guys who like do like a lot of chopping stuff like that. He has he's good with his hands, right? He's good with his hands fighting people off. I think he he's he does a good uh job of mirroring too, especially around the pocket at the left tackle, right? I thought he did a good job of that. You see a lot of that on film. And at center, I think what you really see is kind of his intelligence.
I think he's a really smart guy. Picks up stunts really well, even when he I mean, he he never played center before um this past year and he would go he was going there pointing out stunts and stuff like that. So, he has a great understanding of what he wants to do on the offensive line and what guys do on the offensive line, right? So, I really like that that the intelligence is there. My thing is it's just the run blocking and you know, I'm going to show it.
It's just does he have the play strength to play inside consistently? And that's what makes me nervous about this pick.
And you know cuz you talk about Caleb Rogers going going from tackle to guard.
I thought when Taylor Rogers played guard it was a better inside than it was than Trey Zoon overall in my opinion.
Now I think Trey Zone like I said he's a smart guy. He understands the pass protection. He's clean. It's just this is a this could be a running football team, right? I mean, from the outlooks of it, I mean, they drafted Mike Washington in the fourth round, right? I mean, it's pretty high pick. I mean, uh, for a running back, right? Um, >> RB2. Yeah.
>> Yeah. For your RB2 as well, you know what I mean? So, to to draft a guy that high that's going to be your RB2 kind of says that you're you're you have a plan of being a smashmouth football team.
Play defense, smashmouth football while Mendoza grows until you become that pass first team, right? So, since that is a thing, that's what I'm a little bit worried about is is can he block inside like the play because even when he's blocking at tackle blocking at tackle, you can see the play strength issues a little bit. Um, so um that's just my issue with it. It's just he's just he's got to get a whole lot stronger. Um, and I mean that's going to take some time.
So, that's why I don't know if he's going to be like ready to go right um right away. Like he's he's going to have to need some work. And you know, even some clips I'm going to show, you can kind of tell that even in the run game, he gets a little confused with like inside zone, what's his responsibilities are. So, he's got to learn the whole guard position inside cuz I mean, yeah, he he was throwing at center, he had to play center, but you kind of see it and I'm point some of those things out that he's just like he's doing a combo block too long or he went, you know, some on one clip of the show he went to another combo block. I'm like, why are you hit up, not hit hit up, you know what I mean? So, you can tell he's a little confused a little bit. So, he's a little bit of a project, too, in my opinion.
Right. I mean, I think he's more of a project than Kayla Rogers was. Um, okay.
Which which kind of >> says a lot a little bit, but like he's just a way better pass protector than Kayla Rogers was. So, you saw what Caleb Rogers became, right? Because Kayla Rogers was he was good pass protection and tackle is way better at run blocking at tackle, right? So you thought when he moved inside we thought he might have some trouble but you know you still saw that like Brandon Graham ate his >> ate his lunch right so those things are going to pop up with Trey Zone and that's kind of like the issue that I have with it is like yeah he can't play outside his arm's too short that's for sure but if he we seen him play inside and he still has some of those issues that's going to be a little bit of the issue for me so we'll see how this goes.
Um, but yeah, that's that's kind of why >> I'm a little bit >> up and down with this pick. I'm I'm up and down. I'm up and down.
>> The way I can sum up uh Trey Zun as a run blocker is uh one of my coaches in college, our O line coach, used to say uh there's two types of run blockers.
There's two types of blockers. There's stop signs and there's speed bumps. Stop sign like you'll get get somebody, you'll fullon stop them and you will like, >> you know, move them or whatnot and and whatnot. If you're a speed bump, you kind of just get in the way and maybe slow him down. Trey's a speed bump.
>> Yeah.
>> Like that's that's the best way I can describe it. And when I was watching his tape, like one of the things I was hoping to see was because he is like an elite athlete. I mean, you look at his testing numbers from his proday, you're in a 9.99 rais like >> uh and I was kind of hoping to see like I'm like, "Okay, maybe he I can see the vision if like he's a really good reach blocker on outside zone." even that kind of left something to be desired where like I could see like the movement skills and stuff like that, but like his technique wasn't great and he was still kind of getting beat and giving up pressure. Like the few wins he had, like it was like it seemed like he was losing initially and then he might recover. But that's kind of the stuff that's like gets me a little bit concerned and I have the same questions with you is like all right, where's this guy going to play? because I love him in pass bro and I love his athleticism and what he brings on the edge in that regard, >> but the shorter arms are going to get are going to be like a a detriment to him in the NFL. Like he's not even at the 33 inch threshold, which is which is below the 50 uh below the 50% for an offensive tackle.
>> He's at like 32 and a half. And then on top of it too, if you're not really moving people in the running game, like I need I need my guard to be able to like just create p create rushing lanes in the running game, move defensive tackles. And when you're struggling to do it out there on the edge against smaller guys defensive end, >> uh you're going to probably gonna have a harder time doing it um against three techniques and those tackles on the interior. So >> that's that's where I kind of get that's I think we're both on the same page of like why we not that big of a fan. was just like I just don't know where this guy's going to live in the NFL. And I think that's why he was around in the late third round and why you saw a lot of people thinking he was going to be a fourth round pick going into the draft because yes, he has the elite athleticism, >> but you don't know where you're going to play him. Like it's hard to find where his what his best position is going to be in the NFL and it's just frustrating for me when we had two top 100 offensive linemen that didn't play as rookies last year and you're looking at probably having another one again this year.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. All right. Uh let's do Trey Zoom first. Let's All right. So, like I said, we're gonna focus on him as center because I mean, he's playing inside with us. He's probably not gonna play tackle. If he's playing tackle, that means a lot of guys got hurt.
All right. So, let this run here.
So, so this is one of the better blocks you'll see from him right inside this one right here. Like like I said, it's really is because to me to me it's not a technique issue because I mean you see the can placement. He's got a pretty good bat level. He's got a pretty good base, man. Well, he could drive. It's just even here. You could kind of see a little bit just it's it's more of him like you just said, man. He's kind of just >> he's not really getting too Yeah. Yeah.
He's just not getting too much push here. But I mean, this is good enough.
If he if he can do this right, this will help out.
All right, next one here.
Guess a little Chris Mckllen here, right? Chris Mckllen. Now, he gets some help on this one, right? I mean, there's a combo block here. Looks like running some duo.
Right now, what I like about this one, too, is you can see this little This is where you see a little bit of some grip strength, though, right? So, combo block here, right? He has to take over the block because uh the tack uh the other guard has to get the second level, but you see the grip strength. He's able to hold Mlen enough, right, to allow him to get through. Like I said, there's really no push though. You're not getting a lot of push. But this is good enough, especially since Mlen he his he's way too high. So, it does help with the defensive tackle is that high. But >> yeah, >> you kind of see like I mean this is good enough. Like I said, the technique is never bad. So, you know, against certain guys who like if you have bad technique like McCullen here, he's going to win just because he has the leverage and he has good hand placement.
All right, little rep against Miami here. Is 11 mot.
>> Did he play in this game?
>> Uh, I think he got injured early.
>> Okay. I was like I was trying to find him.
>> All right. Uh, so you see it once again like like I said once again you see see the technique is good, right? The low pad level, you know, even a pretty good burst right there. Good hand placement.
You see the hands inside. That's what you want, right? It just looks good.
>> Yeah.
>> Right. It looks good. But you kind of already see that since he's not getting that drive, like it it doesn't it doesn't go >> uh of course his way. And like I said, it's it's a good block, but you know, you just want more push here when you have this type of leverage. And you're winning like this. You get up the ball like this.
Uh you get up the ball, you get your hands inside like that. Good block. You just expect to have a little bit more drive there. But >> yeah, he's not a finisher for sure.
>> Yeah. a run blocker at least.
>> All right, here we go. So, see here's a block here. Here's a good one. Get a second level. You kind of see that lessism a little bit here on this one.
So, this is my favorite blocks. This I'm talking about him, you know, running some some split zone here, right? Hit that combo block and then he has a good job of getting to that second level right there. Making a little push right there on Trider. Try to finish him off right there.
But you can see the athleticism though.
You can see why why he has that high rass, right? I mean, he's he got some good movement skills. Boom. Get the help there on that combo block. Of course, that good lord. That was Is that what you're laughing about, man?
>> I was just about to say like the look at his backup at left tackle. Look at the difference.
>> Oh man, that Yeah, that's >> like that left tackle got a two pancakes. He got the dtackle and Santis.
>> Yeah. God damn. Boom. Right there. Yeah, throw a pancake. But but that's what I'm saying. You see the athleticism right there. He does have a good job. He does uh have the athleticism to get to the second level when you're running inside zone and stuff like that. You see it right there. But against Josiah Troder.
All right. Here's another good block on this one too. Believe. Yes. So this this is another one you kind of see athleticism. You see him get to the second level on this uh this little power run here.
because counter it looks like right you see see his ability to get to second level here like he gets the second level quick like this is a quick movement he's coming from the center position right here and just look how quickly he gets up field there so you can see like I said the athleticism is there he has all the athleticism to run outside zone I mean this is him moving laterally anyways no matter how you look at it >> the good nice step there getting that second level getting that push I was set up a Big run there.
But you just set, like I said, the athleticism there. He's able to get the second level.
Boom. Get that linebacker, right? Get a block there.
And I mean, the guy just tried to shed him back inside. I don't know why he tried to do that, but it's just a plays over there. I mean, figure.
>> Yeah.
>> But it's a good block by him right there by Zone.
Here's another good block. This one ended up being a huge play here. But this I'm talking about you see you see on the combo block here. Boom. Good pad level. Like I said, it's it's I'm tell it's just not it's not a technique issue. It isn't. That's why he's such a good pass uh protector. You see it right here. He's able to kind of get that push right there on the combo block, right?
And that push ends up helping him get that huge play. This huge play for a touchdown here. This probably this probably his best run block on Phil. Be honest.
>> Yeah, I remember watching this. This is a great combo. Yeah, great combo block there. See that push? Let's see that drive, right? Boom. Drive in the legs, right? So, this is this is this is this is the best to get from Zoom right here is this type of block, right? Cuz also, you know, doesn't allow this linebacker uh Troder to come over and, you know, make that play. It just opens up that gap, leads to a huge play and a touchdown for Texas A&M.
I think 13 got sent to the bench after that play.
>> I bet he did.
All right.
So, here's here's another run block, too, on this one here. Now, this one, right, getting a little power here, a little lead power here.
You can just see him kind of basically executing this block here on 10. Like I said, the thing is on this one, you kind of see him get he starts leaning a little bit. I think it leans a little too early on this one, but the p the technique is there. But you kind of see like if he if he doesn't have the technique kind of this is kind of a little bit of preview here. You see this guy's like he doesn't have the push to to to move this guy cuz like I said, he should be able to move this player. I mean, this ends up being a little bit of a combo block here. Even though 71 did not know that the snap was coming. He got laid off the ball, but you kind of see this push here, right? And but this guy's able to kind of get his uh the number 10 is able to kind of reset his feet right there. Kind of keep stand his ground like there was no push there. So that play didn't go the opposite way.
You know, he he might be able to make a play on it here.
Man, he gave 28 at the business or 20 whoever that is. I don't know who that is.
All right.
So, so, so, so let's get into uh, you know, what he needs to get better at, right? So, I kind of talked about this with the inside zone runs, right? So, it looks like this ends up uh, as inside zone here, right? Now, you kind of can see it already what I'm talking about.
Okay, so, right, you got a combo block here. Okay, cool. You got one arm reach 71's got it right. The next thing you usually see in inside zone is you go here, right? You even see them kind of eyeing it, right? Combo block up to the next level, right? If there's nobody coming to the next level, you keep the combo block, but if there's somebody's coming, you know this number 14's uh going to be coming downhill and trying to stop this run. You want to get up to 14 here. For some reason, he helps 54 here first. I don't I I don't know what I don't know if he's coached that way. I just haven't seen that before a lot.
I'll just say that. So, yeah, I could be wrong. He could be coached that way, but I hope I hope he's not because that's bad coaching. So, because I >> can think of is is they might have been worried about Mlen because that is ML like their their Missou's best defensive lineman. But >> yeah, >> he does look like he doesn't he looks like he's not sure of himself.
>> Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like he doesn't he's not sure exactly what to do here on this inside zone run because what happens is since he doesn't get up to 14 in time, 14's able to read it.
He's untouched. He's not touched. He could just kind of scrape over the top here. And that's exactly what he does right there. Right. So he he So a little bit, like I said, there's a little bit of struggle. There's a learning curve for him inside, too. Like there's a learning curve.
>> Yeah.
>> All right. Next one here.
>> Kind of a little bit of the same thing on this one, too, right? Um, let's run it back on this one.
So, we get a little split zone here right >> now. Right. You got you got a combo block. Okay. Boom. Combo block. But it's he's just late to get up to the second level, right? I think he like you even see like it's like it's like he's passing.
>> Yeah.
>> A little bit. Like that's that's what it feels like he's helping, right? This is like a pass protection help. like you got you already got two guy like get up to the second level here, right? So at least there's something even though this guy's blitzing, you know, you can either get one of these two guys or something like that or maybe if you get five, right? And you force 18 to still come around that maybe you open up a bigger hole here, right? And force, you know, uh 18 to take a better angle at this tackle. But we don't get that. We kind of just get him kind of just being laid up there.
Yeah.
>> So, yeah, there's a learning curve, man.
It >> for sure.
>> It it's it's there.
Like I said, this is the first year he's ever played center. So, like, you know, it kind of shows that there there's going to be some growth here. So, in this one here too, now like I said, he's off the ball quick, man. As for this guy's never played center. He's getting off the ball. He gets off the ball pretty quickly here. Boom. Off the ball.
He's got his hands inside, right? He's got good good pad level, right?
Everything looks good right here. But this is when we talk about this the place because he just gets lifted up even with the good placement and all that other stuff. He still gets lifted up there, gets uh driven back, and then the guy's able to make the tackle. And this is another example too where like the lack of length like if you back that up to like when that that tackle gets extension on the block like like he's his arms are completely locked out and the defensive tackle still has bend in his elbow like that's just going to make it harder for him to sustain blocks.
>> Yeah.
>> Like Yeah. I don't know who that tackle is but he's got some long ass arms and he just bench pressed zoomed off of them.
>> I know, man.
All right. So, here's another one here.
Now, this was just interesting because like it's him one-on-one on the linebacker. Like I said, this block works, okay? It's it's going to work.
You got to just see like where the play strength is, man, because he's getting just driven back by a linebacker full speed.
Like, boom. Okay, we're meeting the hole here, right?
and you just get kind of, you know, tossed a little bit by by a linebacker.
And it, like I said, where the play was going, it's kind of this counter look here. It ends up working, but you know, I would just expect a little bit more from you taking on linebacker.
I I know that guy's a first round linebacker. He comes downhill really well, but you just expect a little bit more there. All right, so this is the last one. So it's him against 97, the same guy here. So, like I said, off the ball, really quick, great snap, great hands, great placement, everything.
Boom. We even get a little help, but the thing is like he just can't hold on to it, right? And you see that basically the arm length issue again and the guy's just able to kind of shed it and if he did hand the ball off to him.
>> Yeah, >> that's easy tackle, right?
>> Yeah.
>> You can say you can say it's RPO, but like he has no idea this guy the quarterback kept the ball. He doesn't know.
>> Yeah. RPO's as O line. That's a run play for you. Yeah. So, kind of just see it there. So, there there is gonna be some struggles in our game. I mean, he's he's got to get stronger like quickly, like quick. All right. So, let's get into pass protection a little bit. Some positivity. We're some positivity here, guys, because this is what he does best.
Pass protection. Do you even see it here, right? Good rep, which I like. You see if if he goes a guy who doesn't have that extreme arm length, right? He's able to reset his hands. Like that's a good rep right there. Reset your hands.
Get your hands back inside. You see he's able to mirror pass rushers around the edge, right? Cuz even gets his plate hand place on him, but he's able to kind of not allow him into his chest. You know, this guy's kind of trying to do a bull rush here. He does a good job of resetting his hands and just winning that hand fight. So, this is this is where you see it. This is where he excels, man. His pass his pass blocking.
This is why he got that high ass grade.
>> Yeah.
It's like five points better than anyone else in the country. Yeah.
>> [ __ ] good.
Crazy. All right. So, so here he is against Miami, right? Pass protection at center. Now, like I said, it's just the hand placement is always great, man. And and and the technique, he's able to kind of just hold on to guys because especially when they're not they're not able to kind of get into his chest really because he has his hands are so quick, right? able to get into his chest that much. He's kind of able, like I said, he can mirror guys so well with his feet cuz his athleticism. You You see where this is where the upside is, man.
>> Yeah, >> that's where it's at.
Best throw of Marcel Reed's uh film there. All right. Okay. Here's another one. Like I said, like this is what you want, man. Look, look at the hands inside. Look at the look where he has them. That's that's exactly what you want. Like I said, exact how quickly he gets off the ball too, right? But he does get a little help, but you can see with the placement and this guy's, you know, I don't know if he's trying to play the run, but he's not going anywhere here. He's not able to kind of break this. So, so to cuz it's weird cuz he has pretty good grip strength, right?
You kind of see it here a little bit, but he just he just can't move guys like that, right? It's the leg drive, things like that.
>> Yeah, it's odd. And he hit like I think he hit 33 reps on the bench press, which is >> Yeah. Which so it's weird. is so weird.
>> I It's Yeah. I I don't know if it's necessarily a strength or as much of a power issue, like his ability to generate force. You know what I mean?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Because you can see the grip strength there, right? I mean, that's that that's that's what that is.
That's grip strength. I mean, you hold a guy like this in pass protection, that's grip strength.
>> Yeah.
>> Really weird stuff, guys. I'll explain.
>> He does have an interesting physical profile.
Yeah, I know. All right, because this talk about him mirroring once again here, right? Um, right. He's got you got the inside rusher does a good job of picking him up. He understands where guys are coming from, right? What his responsibilities are here in pass protection and you can even see it like I mean this guy tries to get a little push on him, right? He tries to get a little tries to get a little one a little one bull rush, but he kind of just pulls him down. He's got that great grip strength inside. He's able to reset his hands, get his hands back inside there. Ends up being a great rep.
It's odd, guys. I I don't know. I can't I can't explain this to you. I have no idea.
All right, here's another one.
Now, I really like this one because one ends up being a stun here. He does a great job picking this one up. And this this talk about his intelligence because the the guard does not pick it up.
>> No, that guy struggled. Yeah, that guy did not pick it up, right? But he has a good job of passing it off where he should pass it off. Getting back on Chris Mckllen here. And like I said, there's a grip strength again. There's there's that grip strength, man, inside.
Boom.
A and also I think I think a pass protection you can kind of get away with grip strength a little bit more too just because I mean it's they don't call I mean in the NFL they call more holding here but you can kind of see like he's he's grabbing pads and stuff like that.
>> Yeah but this is perfect man. This is perfect. That's how you play stuff man as a center. Boom. Good. Got it. Pass him off. You got your guy. Great feet right there.
It's that's what I'm saying like and Patrick's like ready to go. It's just it's kind of funny. All right, so here he is. Uh he's facing a blitzer this time. Like I said, good job. Uh going to see him point stuff out here. Give communication here with 54.
Got good communication. You figure out where everybody's coming from.
Boom. He understands. Okay, so got a blitz coming with Troder. Troder tries to give a little spin move. Like I said, this where you see the mirroring here.
This is beautiful rep. Boom. Right there.
It's just like a totally different guy.
It's just It's so weird.
It's a great rap, man. But it's just you can see how great his feet are and everything. Boom. Great feet. Uh hold on to that great block to the throw to the number 65 pick Nate Borcher.
>> He had a couple blocks on tape. I'm like, "Oh, that's why the Dolph I don't know if you saw the one against Florida, bro. I don't know if it was this game or Florida, but there was one I was like, holy, wow.
>> Yeah, I don't think I watched Florida, but there were a couple on tape. I'm like, damn. Okay, >> wow. That that makes sense.
Here we go against Chris McCllen, man.
Chris Mckllen, uh, one of the better details. I'm not saying it wasn't a great class for that, but he's one of the better ones. And you see him trying to get a bull rush here. And this we talk about why it's so weird with it with this because this is a great anchor here, man. great anchor able to hold him there.
It's odd because I know there's somebody say, "Oh, you strength at 33 pitch rest." And I know somebody's going to say that.
There's going to be somebody in the comments who's not gonna who's just going to hear us say that and just go straight to the comments and I'll watch the rest of the video.
>> It's going to be something.
>> Sounds about right.
>> It's going to be somebody.
All right. I think I got a couple more reps here.
So, so this this I really like this one because um this kind of just shows his intelligence a little bit, right?
Because you're going to see they're flowing to their uh their right here, but he has a good job of kind of make sure he's going to help 71.
And what that does is he's able to reset his hands there. And like I said, you can see the feet, the grip strength there. Looks really well. Looks good.
All right, this last one here.
There another one here. I said this guy even gets in his chest. But then you can see this is a good anchor right there, man. Right there. Guy gets in his chest.
93 doesn't, you know, the guy kind of wins the the the strike challenge, I'll call it. But you can see it's the anchor, man. Look at that. It's building the house and just setting that setting that house up.
>> Yeah. Damn.
>> Yeah. Yeah, man. It is. It's pretty good, man. Like I said, it's not bad.
It's not pass protection is is >> great. I we just got to get that that grip strength and that anchor ability and all that stuff into the run game.
And I think that like I said, I don't know if that's him not not thinking about things or like overthinking things or I don't know what that is, but they they that's something they got to fix.
They got to work on that. They got to fix that and figure out what's there to make sure that um so he can develop. But like he does feel like a guy that might have to sit a year and just learn the inside, you know, how to play inside in the offensive line.
>> Interior.
>> Yeah. I'm I'm curious. Do you think there's any chance that he might be able to factor into the mix at right tackle?
>> Maybe.
>> That's a good question.
>> That was kind of the way that was like I was looking at it. I'm like cuz I saw the same things you did on uh at the guard spot. like, well, maybe if he can just keep like Mendoza upright, they'll just put him at right tackle because like like I mean obviously you focus on the interior stuff, but like when he went up against Ruben Bane in that playoff game, like he had a hell of a game against Bane. Like Bane might have beaten him one or twice. I know Bane ended up having like three sacks that was on that was because they had to move him around like they had to uh uh and like they put him on like inside and stuff like that and he had like a cleanup sack and then uh um and whatnot.
But like when he went up against Bane, like that was one of the things that like kind of got me a little bit excited. I'm like, "All right, he's playing the game within the game." Like I saw the stunt pickups too and like the athleticism stood out. And one of the things I liked that he did in that game was he made Bane like he he had the it was one of the few times he'll have like a arm length advantage and he made Bane play in space and that's where uh he ended up like ended up taking advantage of it and taking advantage of of again a rare opportunity for him where he had the arm length. Now, the problem was he tried to do the same thing to Aake Mezador who has about the same length of arms that he does and Meador just put his hands in his chest and beat him inside for a sack.
>> Yeah.
>> So, that's just that's that's kind of where I'm at. I'm like, well, maybe he will just contribute at right tackle if they don't trust uh DJ Glaze or Charles Grant, especially with Mendoza back there. Like, again, you're not going to expect anything from him in the running game, but at the very least, if he can keep the quarterback clean, maybe that's his be his best role and how he can contribute as a rookie at least. Yeah, I agree to I mean that that's where that's his bread and butter at this point in time and I I that's what I'm saying like everything is is you see like everything you see on his Raz in the pass protection. You just don't see as much in the run game and I think that's a little bit of thinking. I think he's overthinking in the run game.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah, for sure.
>> All right, let's get to some Kieran Crawford, man.
>> Sounds good.
>> Let's do it.
>> All right, so I'm going start with the few plays against the run. And this first rep is honestly the best one I thought he had probably the the maybe even the the entire season. Uh I will say it was a little bit more rare. But one of the the thing I like about this is just how he takes the fight to this offensive tackle. Like you'll see this tackle kind of comes off the ball kind of soft and he just is the aggressor and just wins at the point of attack and then sets the edge, escapes the block and is able to to go make the tackle um right at the line of scrimmage. But so this is the encouraging part. But again, I will say I don't didn't it wasn't like I saw that consistently on uh on Kiron Crawford's theme uh film. If I did, I would have uh be a little bit higher on him.
>> Yeah.
>> Um there rep again, just good use of hands on this one. I think he does a great job of getting his hands up and getting them inside. Like you can see this tackle kind of shoots his hands a little wide. Tackle doesn't have great technique overall. Um yeah, >> but Crawford just kind of takes advantage. And the reason why he's able to do that is because he actually uses pretty good technique on this rep. again shooting his hands, keeping them tight.
>> We'll get off that block. And then this is where you see the athleticism and we'll get some more of this later, but the bend too to kind of work back towards the line of scrimmage.
>> Yeah, that's good.
>> DFL, >> it's a nice play right there. Yeah, better job of holding up at the point of attack. But the one thing about this rep that I kind of wanted to to point out is as I like it again, it's something that you can build off of, >> but unlike that one that we saw at the beginning against Missouri, like he just doesn't really get extension on this block, like he does at the very end when that running back bounces outside.
>> Yeah.
>> Like for the most part, he's chest to chest with his tackle. And against better competition, like that's just not going to work. like in the NFL, like you're going to have to be able to get some sort of extension on the block to be able to escape and then go get the TFL. He does it all right here, but I think with the with that step up and comp, he's going to have a a harder time. Now, this clip I part of the reason why I wanted to include is just to be like this is where the numbers can get a little misleading because he's going to get like a I think he gets TFL on this tackle >> against Pavia here and Vanderbilt. But like if we back this up again, this is where I get a little concerned. I guess it's technically long trap with the tight end blocking out and the >> tackle blocking end, but it's basically counter, right? They have two pullers and I mean, we start in the back field >> and he's given up a couple of yards and like ends up getting pushed backwards.
>> He just ends up recovering and I love the hustle and the energy to play, but >> it's a little bit what I'm talking about where I get a little concerned with him uh making that transition to the league.
>> Yeah. I don't know what Pavia was reading to give that not give that ball off anyways. Yeah, it was it was a Pavia. I just want to make a play.
>> But again, this is another one where better job setting the edge, >> but this this this full house look from uh >> from uh or inverter wishbone from Vanderbilt like he's taking on a running back in as a lead blocker. Like >> when this is if this is happens in the NFL, this is 300 pound Patrick Card, you know what I mean? Like not a running back. So good rep. I'll give him that.
But again, when we talk about transferring to the league, a little bit different.
>> Yeah, >> this is going to be the sack against Zoo. Now, this one's more of a coverage sack. Um, but what I do like is just like is one like fights through a chip block here from that that Art Dolphins second round pick.
>> Uh, was the controversial one of it too like he recognizes to >> everything good we said about Trey Zoo in pass bro. Don't watch this rep. Yeah, >> Zoo just opens up the gate pretty good here. But what I like about what Crawford does is he recognizes that and then just wins across Zoo's face. Oh, that's a bad angle. Wins across Zun's face and ends up going to get the sack.
>> Yeah, nice closing speed, too. That's what's explosiveness.
>> For sure. For sure. Yeah, the explosiveness is definitely there. Like you said, now he wasn't used much on stunts at Auburn, and I think that might have been partially because of his role.
Like a like he only rushed the pass for 65% of the time last year. like they had the they call it the buck linebacker, which is basically like a like that hybrid type of player where you're an offball guy and uh and standing up on the edge and rushing the passer.
>> So, but what I like about this is he's this is a an ET stunt where he's technically supposed to be the pick player on the guard, but what he does is he just gets up the field first of all, sells it really well by working vertical with his first two steps. Then he plants this outside foot in the ground. And this is where the basketball background comes in because he clears this tackle's face and clears this tackle's body easily. And he does it so quickly that this guard doesn't have enough time to react.
>> Yeah.
>> In the sack.
>> Yeah, it's nice.
>> So, with this clip, uh, I'm going to kind of show you guys a couple things.
One, the speed that and athleticism that he has to win around the edge and on top of it, the bend. Like you can see, he just wins the foot race just basically just beats this tackle to the spot back here. And that's I think tied to his his his get off obviously and on top of it the bend to kind of turn that tight corner.
But the problem is I mean I will say B backs this up. The bigger problem Auburn has is they don't get any other interior pressure until Faulk kind of wins here late in the rep. So Pu Pribula excuse me has uh plenty of room to step up into the pocket. But the other issue, and this is where I'm talking about with Kiron's uh with his use of hands that kind of like gets into nitpicky t territory, but it's difference between being able to get a hit and maybe like, >> you know, leading to an errant pass or even maybe finishing with a sack is if you watch his hands, like he throws his punch a little too early here, like you can see right here, he's starting or excuse me, he throws the cross chop a little bit too early. Like he's trying to hit chop the hands down, but the tackle hasn't thrown his punch yet. So he's just a little early and the timing's off. So he misses >> on top of it too. Like to me like I think he can do a little bit better job of finishing with the more violent rip like >> Yeah.
>> One a good like a one of the things I always love to do with like a with a cross shop is finish with a chop rip so you're coming back straight up >> so that you can get this guy's hands off of you.
>> Yeah.
>> What this tackle is able to do is keep his hands on and kind of ride him a little bit to give that quarterback just enough time to get that pass off.
Whereas if he can either knock the hands down here or finish with a more violent rip and get him off of him, I'm not he may not be able to get a sack again because they don't have enough interior pressure, but maybe he can hit Pbula and impact the pass in some way.
>> Yeah.
>> See, I think this one's going to be kind of similar. So, this one again, like he hits the cross and he actually does a better job of landing it. I was talking about a little bit too of him uh setting up his move. Yeah, >> does a great job of stemming and getting to square like putting this getting this inside foot like even with the uh the tackle's inside foot to create a shorter edge >> and just hitting that euro step with that cross chop.
>> Yeah. does a better job with the chop, but he kind of like he goes to kind of pull this outside arm down.
>> Doesn't quite is not quite violent and strong enough with it where that tackle can instead of just being off balance after getting his hands knocked down, the tackle can kind of run with him >> instead instead of like just getting that clean win. Now, granted, this one like I'll I'll let this play a little bit. DP gets peaked pretty badly, so I don't know if it's going to make a difference, but again, it's just kind of this is getting in the mid, but this is where Crawford could finish. And also, like I personally, I'm just more of a fan of of hitting that cross chop and then just ripping. I think that's a little bit more effective at getting the hands off of you.
>> Yeah.
>> Pass rusher than pulling outside arm down.
>> Yeah. Just like that. Just that one second, I mean, allow the quarterback to get the pass off, too.
>> This is another one, too. Again, this is a great move. You see the athleticism, you see the quickness, the change of direction, wins across the face.
>> He doesn't quite get a h clean win with his hands. And then that tackle is just able to push him and like kind of recover.
>> Yeah.
>> And then he ends up on the ground. And the other thing I don't like about this is especially against a mobile quarterback like Pavia, if you are going to go inside, you better make that sack because this is exactly what Diego Pavia wants you to do because now he's playing that backyard football crap that he loves to do. Mhm.
>> And that's the thing with me, that's the other thing I kind of want him to work on too and hone in is just being a little more disciplined with his pass rush lanes because he goes inside here and Pavio scrambles around and then hits a hits a big play um down the field.
>> Yeah.
>> We don't have any edge contained and he did this a handful of times against uh Vanderbilt that >> you just don't want to see against a against a mobile quarterback like that.
>> Yeah, I agree.
>> Again, another nice one on this one.
This one's actually pretty damn good overall. I don't I don't have many complaints about this. Like same kind of thing where he does a great job of setting that move up, working inside with his first step and that creates that shorter edge on top of it too. Like just kind of wins across the wins across the face. But even you can see on this one too, he doesn't really beat the hands. He just kind of wins athleticism.
>> Yeah.
>> And then this one was a this one uh we'll say did took a really good path to the quarterback again. You see that bend?
>> Yeah. We just got that get that little [ __ ] on the ground.
>> I know >> he's slippery. So, getting on to a little few more of the what I was talking about too with his hands again.
This is another one too where you see the speed just misses with that trop this basically that same rep I was just going over against Missouri. He misses with the chop again and not quite violent enough with the rip >> where this tackle can hang on to him.
So, even though he's winning on this rep, he's not getting a clean win.
>> Yeah.
>> With Robinson just enough time to get that pass off. Like if he can knock those hands down, like you see, he just misses with the chop.
>> Mhm.
>> Or finish more violently and get this tackle off of him.
>> Yeah.
>> Maybe he gets a quarterback hit or a sack or something like that. And granted, again, I think Auburn had a breakdown in in the uh the secondary.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. This is another one too, like I like the spin. Mhm.
>> Like like right like like you can see the athleticism on the spin, but like when I've broken down like other spin moves before, one of my big things that I've always talked about is using this this arm for that ice pick.
>> Yeah.
>> He doesn't quite do that here to clear that that tackle's hands, >> especially against better competition.
What most NFL tackles will do is they'll just kind of run their feet and move their hands and then they'll you'll they'll negate your spin move. like he gets a he gets a quarterback hit here in a pressure because because the other edge wins and Soy Robinson has to step up in in the pocket.
>> Yeah.
>> The other thing and this goes back to what I was talking about too about little pass rush lane integrity. I can't have him going inside when I have a rusher already in the B gap.
>> Exactly. That's what I was thinking like they run into each other too.
>> My Dline coach used to say we can't have two hot dogs in the bun. Right. Again, this is another instance, too, like Robinson, if he starts to escape because Faulk starts winning here on the other edge. He's got a path to get to the edge. Now, the only thing that gave me a little bit of pause is it kind of looked like 44 might be trying to get out on the edge. So, I was wondering if maybe this is a line game, >> but that brings up another question. I don't know if I've ever seen someone hit a spin move to get into a line game. So, that's where I was paused. So again, just a little nuance things that I think he's going to have to learn and are going to be a little bit of a learning curve uh in the league. Kind of ties to his uh his lack of experience. Now, this one's like again a little bit better.
This probably the better one, too. Hits that Euro step and his hands don't really matter because he covers so much damn ground.
>> Yeah.
>> And like I think he he probably would actually would get the sack here if the guard doesn't help. But again, like you can just kind of see just his his hands just aren't quite there yet. Mhm.
>> That one was of the ones that >> um you know his hands weren't on point.
Like you could see like the difference in just how his pure athleticism helps him win.
>> Yeah.
>> Now getting into the plays where like he does do it pretty damn well. The thing I love about this rep is he does a great job of of showing this like this this one arm stab move, right, of attacking Aaron and getting that on the tackle's chest >> and then using his outside arm to pin this uh tackle's hand down. And that now we're getting the tackle off balance.
Now we're getting that clean win.
>> Yeah.
>> What's up? Go ahead.
>> Then you get that sack.
>> Yeah, exactly. The other thing I like about this rep, too, is like you can kind of notice the difference in in bend and how special and how like just much how good he is uh at doing it. Like if you watch his shin angle right here, >> that's pretty damn impressive.
>> Yeah. And then compare that to three here. I'm sorry. Sorry, number three.
I'm gonna pick on you a little bit. Like you see how like when he's trying to turn the corner like he's >> pretty straight up up and down and like he ends up missing the sack. Like this should be three sack but he doesn't have the bend to get it and then Crawford's there to clean it up.
>> That's the difference between the two pass rushers. So >> yeah, for sure.
>> Give you guys a little bit of an example how that can impact. Again, this is another great one, too. We got to finish with the sack, of course, >> but much better job of working in the hands. So there there are flashes. There are reasons to think like he can do it in the league. It's just got to be a little bit more consistent. Like that's that same move we were just watching >> where he just goes with the one- arm stab and then just kind of swats a bob swat like a swats that outside hand down >> and then the bend again too. That's >> Yeah, that's a good bend right there.
>> Yeah, we got one more too. Oh yeah, this is a good one. This is a really nice little double hand swipe that he just wins wins clean.
>> There you go.
>> Someone else just got the sack a little bit faster. This this piss you off as a D lineman when when you get a nice like clean win, but someone else just went faster. You don't get the sack. It's [ __ ] But yeah, but yeah. Ah, I skipped break this down a little more.
Yeah. Again, this one just a lot better with the timing and the accuracy. Like you can see like you can see just the biggest difference, right? The tackle's throwing his punch here and he's got his hands up and boom, just swats it away.
>> Yeah.
>> And around the edge.
>> All right.
>> Yeah. So, that's the thing is I don't know if he'll ever be a good run defender. Like, he has the one clip that I showed you at the beginning, but again, that wasn't something that I was noticing consistently. I I would have showed you guys more clips if I if I had that of him.
But I do think he can at the very least be a good pass rusher. And like if you can if Rob Leonard feels like he can hone in those those hands and stuff like that and get him his timing a little bit better and and more consistent, then yeah, he can definitely be special because he is a he is a special and and freaky type of athlete. Especially with that bend like that chin angle I still can't get over. Every time I see it, it's it's pretty damn impressive. Thing was like just straight up a what is that? An acute angle, I guess.
>> Angle geomet geometry days.
>> There you go. There you go, man. There you go. Go back to the math days. Yeah, I mean that that's what you see is just the athleticism that he has. He's very raw prospect, right? I mean, but you know, I I do think, you know, a position like edge rusher, those guys can learn those moves, right? I think that's that that's the thing with when you talk about side with a pass rusher, like it's different than like uh you know, with like different positions, you know, like sometimes like quarterbacks or something like some things you just aren't really can't get better at. Like I think like technique and you know using your hands, those all those types of things you can get better at at the next level. You can learn more moves, you can learn more tips and tricks, how to beat guys, uh you know, learning film, learning how to watch film, how to watch tackles on film. I think all those things are there. So once you have that athleticism and bend that he has, that's where the upside comes in because Yeah. As a Dline coach, you feel like you could coach that up like I can I can coach that.
That's why probably when I remember when Rob Leonard, they had the pick, Rob Leonard was going crazy. Yeah, I can see why Rob Leonard, especially a guy that again has done a pretty good job of working with some uh really good athletes at on the edge and reviving guys careers. Like I can see why he was like fired up about it for sure.
>> Yeah. Yeah. He was he was fired up. He was going crazy in that room. They took Kon Crawford me and Glenn were like, "Who is he so fired up about?" And then uh Kron Crawford, you know what I mean? Like he he he he's like, "Give me that. I could build I could use that. I could I'll fix it up.
I'll fix it. You know what I mean?
Typical Dline coach >> with a super talented guy. That's basically what he saw. So, that's their plan. They think they can coach this guy up and get him better. Um and they really like the the rawness for sure.
>> Yeah. Yeah. The upside.
>> The upside, right? Yeah. The ceiling.
>> Our bu Yeah. Our buzzwords, our draft buzzwords. Ceiling. Upside. The >> The ceiling. Yes. The All right.
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