TikTok's Most MANIPULATIVE Family Channel Is UNHINGED - Abbie And Josh Herbert

Added: 2026-05-15

[00:00:00]Abby and Josh Hera are a Tik Tok family channel known for being pregnant, having children, and embarrassing them publicly without consent for millions to see.

[00:00:07]They have since promised to stop using their kids for content. But when views started dropping, I think you can make a pretty good guess at who made a return to the videos. Before we talk about them, however, be sure to subscribe to the channel. We're aiming for 400,000 by the end of the month, which I thought would be an unachievable goal, but after my last video and the support that you guys came out with, I think it's actually pretty damn achievable now. So, first of all, obviously I massively appreciate that, but uh secondly, and more importantly, now if we don't make it, you have got a lot more to be worried about because my hopes are up.

[00:00:36]>> So, don't you dare disappoint me, people.

[00:00:39]>> Moments like this, I wish I had a more threatening voice. But I guess we'll just have to edit it that way and post.

[00:00:43]Naz, you better not do me dirty. Also, want to give a big shout out to Behind the Screen who made a great video on these people and gave me the idea. I'll link hers in the description, so go show her some love. Now, on to business.

[00:00:51]Before we talk exploitation, I want to give you all a quick rundown of who these people actually are. This is Abby Herbert here. As you can see, she has 16 million followers, which is very impressive. However, it's a little less impressive when you realize how she got said followers, which was by exploiting her babies, who, by the way, she did say that she would stop using them, but I'm looking at the I'm looking at her page right now, and they're they're plastered all over the they're plastered all over the gaff. Here's a video of them right here with 1.5 million views. Nightly Conversations with My Baby, part six.

[00:01:22]Does she think that this is like Star Wars or something? Why do we need six parts of this?

[00:01:26]>> And take it in. Okay.

[00:01:28]>> You're 4 months old and you're already 20 lb.

[00:01:32]>> Is that funny? This little outfit you're in, >> is it the first time you've worn it? Too small.

[00:01:38]>> Yeah. Just because you put Inside Out music over the back of it, it don't make it any more wholesome or endearing. Here we go. Oh, lovely. She blurs the kid's face out in this one, but she didn't in the last one, which is really weird.

[00:01:49]Blurring the faces doesn't really mean anything if you only do it half of the time.

[00:01:53]>> It is hour seven. We're surviving.

[00:01:56]>> You can see a little bit of the breastfeeding in this video as well.

[00:01:58]That is something we'll get on to later.

[00:01:59]This woman is obsessed with breastfeeding. Obviously, breastfeeding is like massively important and stuff, but the way that she talks about it in particular and the amount she talks about it online and does it, it's we'll talk. You know what? We'll we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. Just stay tuned. I guess we'll show some uh popular content that doesn't involve the children. And when you realize how boring and sloppy and just cringe and horrible it is, it kind of makes you understand why they lean so much on their children for views.

[00:02:22]>> This is soundproof. Okay.

[00:02:24]>> They're not soundproof.

[00:02:25]>> What?

[00:02:28]>> I guess they are.

[00:02:30]>> I didn't hear a thing.

[00:02:32]>> Okay, your turn. Try it. I'm telling you it's soundproof.

[00:02:44]Do you hear that?

[00:02:45]>> No.

[00:02:45]>> Yeah. Me personally, honestly, I think I'd rather a video of a baby [ __ ] itself and vomiting horrendously all over his gaff as opposed to a video like this. I mean, this is just like it's just how do I even describe like the entertainment value of this video? It's just shite, man. It's so fake that I don't even It feels wrong bringing up how fake it is cuz it's like if I showed you a video of grass and was like, "Oh, look at this grass is like um part of nature actually." It's like, "Well, yes, yes, everyone knows that and everyone's just calling the husband gay and stuff."

[00:03:14]When when you learn about this family channel, you learn that she very intentionally, it's like part of her character to de what's the word?

[00:03:22]Emasculate her husband, right? Her husband is shorter than her. I think he's like 5'6 or something. And half of this woman's content is babies and being pregnant. And the other half is emasculating and making fun of her husband for being short. So this whole like fruity act that the bloke had going on was like um it was probably pre-planned from her. Very obvious that she calls the shots in this relationship, right?

[00:03:42]>> Going on today. I don't see anyone behind me with title.

[00:03:45]>> Oh god. Jesus Christ, dude. All right, Naz, play like two seconds of this video. I I watched a whole ass video where like he's trying to honestly I don't even want to show you guys it.

[00:03:53]It's that bad. I just hate this type of content so much, man. Like this these plastic inauthentic look at us. we have such a great relationship and we love each other type [ __ ] Especially when it is off of the back of exploiting your children for content and views and money, which no doubt they would not be nearly as popular as they are if they weren't using their children as much as they did and continue to do.

[00:04:19]Okay, obviously now blur the music, but this is another video here of her just making fun of him for being short, which by the way, I'm not like mad at that.

[00:04:26]You can take the piss out of your husband for being short all you want as long as like you know he he seems cool with it. All I'm doing is pointing out that that is a huge part of the content.

[00:04:32]I'm not like white knighting for this guy. He's [ __ ] he seems to enjoy it.

[00:04:35]Whatever, right? Do your thing, I guess.

[00:04:36]I'm just saying that when you watch an Abby Herbert video, there are three potential things that may happen, which is one, the husband is short, two, she's pregnant, or three, take the piss out of a baby. That was a wee synopsis of Abby, but we'll learn more. Of course, let's talk about Josh now. Josh was an aspiring musician who met Abby on set when she was 17 and he was 24, but more on that later. His dreams of being a musician sort of um faded away after he realized that just showing his children online for millions of people to see was a much easier source of revenue. Here's his account here. He only has 1.8 million followers, which is rookie numbers, honestly. What is this? Amateur Hour, mate. Following one person, and it's his it's his lovely wife. How cute is that? Oh, you can see Abby, though, following 659 people. Tell you, man, all girls are the same, eh?

[00:05:20]You've been so nice to me lately. Uh, let me give you a massage.

[00:05:24]>> No, honestly, just you deserve it. Here, turn around.

[00:05:27]>> I do deserve it. So, >> yeah. Can you lift your hood up for me?

[00:05:30]>> My hood? Yeah.

[00:05:31]>> Perfect. All righty.

[00:05:32]>> Get my little baby.

[00:05:33]>> No, we're not watching this whole video.

[00:05:35]We're not going to I'm not going to subject you guys to it. It's just some [ __ ] This is it. This is the You get the idea, right? You get the idea of who they are now. He also does a lot of content with a baby as well, just to be clear, though. The baby, they have three now. They have three kids. They've also got a YouTube channel with over 3 million subscribers. That is pretty serious numbers. Genuinely, actually, I don't know why, but Tik Tok followers really just don't seem as real or impressive to me as YouTube. Well, actually, I do know why, because they don't mean nearly as much. But yeah, as you can see, a lot of the recent videos get like no views unless the children are in them. So, as you can see, finding out I'm pregnant. This one has a lot of views. And then the gender reveal also has some views. Baby number three. Then you saw my most popular. it's all just children and babies and finding out she's pregnant and everything in between. When it's centered on them and themselves and their personalities or his music or whatever the [ __ ] they get no views. This is why when they vowed or promised to stop using the children for views and money online and it quickly became very obvious to them that no one was actually watching the content for them. They had to they sort of had no choice. Well, they did have the choice and they chose to bring the children back because exploiting them for money was just worth it. But them making that promise to sort of stop showing the children online to me displays a very clear um understanding of how harmful that can be for, you know, for your children in the long run. But despite understanding how harmful it can be, they continue to do it because it makes more money and it gets more views. Like it's that simple. It's pretty undeniable that that's the reason why they're doing it now. Here's another side hustle that they tried that just completely failed because their kids weren't involved.

[00:07:02]This is like a candle company that they tried to make. Only has 3,000 followers, which is like fine. You can try a side hustle. If it doesn't work out, then at least you are man enough to try. You know what? No. That that was a horrible way of describing it. That is some casual misogyny that is still instilled within me that I need to stop using. At least you are brave enough to try.

[00:07:17]Right? Brave is not a inherently masculine trait. My bad for that one, people. But yeah, point is it failed because the babies weren't involved. It only had 3,000 followers. That's insane for a channel as successful as the one that these two were running. Now, to their credit, they have deleted a lot of older videos with the children, but they haven't deleted all of them. I guess the ones that have the most views they kept up because it gives them attention. So, it's very much like a halfass um sort of PR statement in my opinion as opposed to a genuine care for the children and their futures, especially cuz they obviously still continue to use them, especially when views are low. There were two videos that behind the screen used as well that I'd like to show you.

[00:07:50]One from Chad, who was one of the kids in Ruby Frankie, that whole situation.

[00:07:54]Shankie's sister as well, of course, who's done a lot of good work in Utah and preventing these family channels from being able to continue or or do this exploitation to the extent that they are. and also a former family channel who actually stopped posting their children. Not like the halfass [ __ ] that Abby and um Josh are doing, but like actually we'll have a look at them first.

[00:08:11]>> We haven't posted them in years. Best decision we ever made. For all those people that are new here, we used to post family content. We had 3 million followers and then we woke up one day and we got smart and we said no more.

[00:08:21]Just like a flip of a switch, we completely stopped posting our kids. The views went down. We lost brand deals.

[00:08:27]But none of that matters. I'm going to tell you what matters. Kids being kids matters. Kids doing extracurricular activities, sports, dance, jiu-jitsu, whatever. Kids going to school, kids having fun with their friends, kids going outside, that's what matters.

[00:08:43]Giving five big booms to a double chocolate chunk cookie, that doesn't matter. None of that matters. Having a camera shoved in a kid's face does not matter. Your kid's safety, your kid's privacy, your kids growing up and having a normal life, that's the [ __ ] that matters. And that's why we stopped.

[00:08:59]>> Yeah. Unironically, this is like the most [ __ ] cool [ __ ] ever. From 3 million followers to 20K followers, and there genuinely does not seem to be a little bit of bitterness or resentment behind it at all. Like, you can tell this is not a move they made for PR or to look better for the audience. It's a move that they genuinely made because they were worried about the safety and and future of their children based on the content that they were making before, which probably was nowhere near as exploitive as a lot of family channels, but I wouldn't know, so I can't say for sure. But still, the mere fact that they were using the children in the videos without informed consent, cuz children can't give informed consent, especially when they're actual literal babies, that alone was enough to convince them to stop everything and make a channel where it's just him and his wife, despite it obviously being nowhere near as popular. Because for some reason, I guess having children in the content boosts it in the algorithm.

[00:09:46]But there probably is something to be said about how when you remove the children from the family channels, no one watches anymore. I don't know why videos with children in them, despite them not being like high art or amazing content by any means, are promoted so much on websites like these. Definitely a point to be made about how YouTube, Tik Tok, and the websites that are promoting and um hosting these videos are also somewhat culpable for the exploitation of said children. We can move on to Chad Frankie's video now. No more kids on the internet. The war is over. We have the internet on our side now. You guys have no idea. For years and years, family vloggers like had control over YouTube. It's insane the amount of money family vloggers were making and the community of just all of them combined. You have no idea. When my parents were doing vlogging, they were in a group chat with probably 50 to 100 other large like the biggest family vloggers and they all like compiled together and came up with ideas and that was like a cult. I look at family vlogging now. Even if it's not the main focus on the kids, any kind of clips where people just film their kids and post it and it goes big, I cringe watching those videos.

[00:11:00]>> Yeah. I mean, it makes absolute sense because a lot of the reason those videos are posted on accounts that are constantly posting their children. I think a great example is remember a few videos back, maybe a few months back at this point, when that very famous video of the dad sort of um rustling around under the covers with his son went completely viral. I was of the opinion that calling it essay like so many people were was a little presumptuous, especially when you assert it so confidently. But despite me potentially thinking that this dad who wasn't essaying his kid was being accused of essay by millions of people, I didn't have a shred of sympathy for him.

[00:11:30]Because at the end of the day, these two parents were trying to exploit their children to become some sort of celebrity that when you look back on their channel, it was daily posts of their children, a lot of whom were very young, a lot some of one of them was a literal baby. And they talk about how their babies wet the bed. Oh, this really funny story about how my baby wet the bed. And for me, that's the equivalent of like an assembly. You're in front of the whole school. You take the microphone and you talk about, "Hey guys, just so you know, little Timmy, 8 years old, pissed the bed last night."

[00:11:55]And you're saying that in front of what the thousand [ __ ] students in the school, it's not acceptable. That's the exact same thing as doing it online. In fact, online's worse because it's potentially millions of people like it ended up being. If you're willing to be that [ __ ] horrible and that uncaring and that exploitative of your own children in some sort of pathetic attempt to become famous out of it, then yeah, unfortunately, I don't feel really bad for you when it bites you in the ass. Now, I do think there is a difference and there is an important distinction to be made between channels that solely focus on their children and channels that are a lot more normal, like I don't know, a commentary channel for example, where their child shows up every now and then, like PewDiePie, for example, say what you want about him, I definitely have my opinions. It's difficult to say, as much as you may disagree with um him showing his kid on camera, it's also difficult to say that he's exploiting his children for views and money. If you think he shouldn't be showing the kid at all, that's perfectly reasonable opinion to have. But if you want to argue that he's like exploiting the kid, then I'm not sure I can necessarily agree with you there. I think there is an important distinction to be made between influencers like that who show their children and influencers who are wanting to become famous or rich based or predicated solely on their children. However, I can completely understand someone like Chad being like wholly off-put by every depiction of a child online by a family, for example, especially if it does go viral. so happy when I open the comments and people just are ripping into them. To prove how recent this movement has been when I first started doing social media after everything like about 3 years ago, I actually called out a mom who kept like filming her kids every single day and you could tell she had them do a script and everything. Snapchat, they banned me. They took me off the payroll and everything. And once I like promised them I wouldn't call out any more family vloggers, they like started paying me back. But now there is a huge movement against it. I mean, there's laws passing. Thank Thank God for my sister Sherry. Like, have you guys seen the stuff she does? She's literally going to make it illegal in Utah to film your kids and make money off of it. I don't think she's made it illegal from what I understand cuz I did read the laws out during my uh my Duggar family video, I believe. No. Oh, was it the Taylor Frankie Pool one? Let me double check, actually. Not enough Nelson's. That was it. It was that one. I I read I read the laws out during the Not Enough Nelson's video. The laws are specific to Utah.

[00:14:13]So, a lot of family channels are trying to like escape Utah and go to neighboring states, for example, which is obviously horrendously shitty of them, but it's very obvious why they're doing that. And I do hope and I do I'm not sure. There might be a law that maybe prevents that. But either way, they're not making it illegal to make money off of your children. From what I understand, if you're making above a certain amount of money on content that has those children in it, you are then required by law to give a certain amount of the money made to said children or hold it into some sort of savings account specifically for said children.

[00:14:42]And obviously the I think percentage of money that is owed to them goes up depending on how much money you are making off of them. I don't think it is a perfect system. I don't think it's even a particularly great system. But I do think that it is a very promising step in the right direction if that makes sense. The fact that laws are now being made to prevent stuff like this from happening and not like internet laws or Tik Tok rules or YouTube rules, but actual state governed laws made by the American government, I think is a good move. I think it's a very promising thing. And if Utah was willing to do it, then I think a lot of the other states are going to be a lot less begrudging or or or less willing to do something like that as well.

[00:15:15]>> Catching the ones who are trying to get around it. I know who you're thinking about. I know all the families you're thinking about. Everyone's moving to Tennessee because I think it's still legal there or something. I don't know the details behind it. All I know is that it's happening, bro. No more kids on the internet.

[00:15:31]>> Chad's absolutely right, though. There has been a huge um sort of resistance against these family channels as of recent in the last few years at least.

[00:15:37]Definitely in the last year, they were just so much more accepted maybe half a decade ago. But nowadays, whenever there's a video of a child online, even if it is a perfectly innocent video, it's almost overcorrected now where it's like, "This is horrible. You shouldn't be doing this." That was a little ingest. I'm not sure there has been an overcorrection by any means. I think we're at a decent point now in terms of the amount of people who are very aware of how harmful these family channels are. With all that being said, however, we can now move back on to Abby and Josh. And there's one really interesting, like genuinely really interesting video that they put out a few years back regarding some like um potentially sub subliminal messaged drawings that the child was drawing.

[00:16:12]I'll play the video and we'll talk about it after. Of course, >> I'm going to stop what they're doing, watch this video because I'm genuinely scared and kind of terrified.

[00:16:22]So, this little one right here, this little gremlin, this little, >> she loves to draw. She loves to color for this all herself. As you can see, she loves to do self-portraits. This is daddy. That's mommy. That's baby. Or sorry, that's her. And that's Jagger.

[00:16:37]She's been really into like eyes and faces. Oh, like this is all her.

[00:16:41]>> Real quick, just to be clear, yes, she did name her first kid Jagger or second kid. I think it's a second kid. They she named him him Jagger. They're also completely stereotypical like Family Channel just give our kids [ __ ] names. I don't know how many jaggers have you met in your life, man. Unique names are fine if they don't sound stupid. But just giving your kid a unique name for the sake of it despite how dumb it may sound is just ridiculous in my opinion.

[00:17:03]>> She loves Halloween. She loves pumpkins.

[00:17:06]And she started coloring this herself.

[00:17:09]At first I was like, "Wow, that's really good." She like colored inside lines.

[00:17:13]The color choice little sketch. And then one day I saw her coloring on her iPad and I saw this color on my bed.

[00:17:25]>> She's really into eyes and faces. So I'm thinking maybe she's in her eyes era.

[00:17:29]Well, today she went to school and when I dropped her off I said, "Please make me a piece of art. Like I want to put it on the fridge." And she said, "Okay, mommy." And I was really excited to see what she was going to create. I saw there was Play-Doh. I saw there was paint. They had the construction paper out. And I was like, "This is going to be a good art day. There's stickers."

[00:17:45]And I thought I was going to get something really cute. I went to go pick her up and she was standing on the doorway and she goes, "Mommy, mommy, look what I did." I was like, "Yes, this is going to be a masterpiece." Hands me this.

[00:18:07]>> What is this >> ring?

[00:18:09]>> It's the ring.

[00:18:10]>> Yeah.

[00:18:11]>> Obviously, a four-year-old should not be watching The Ring, by the way. And she does clarify my daughter did not watch the ring which like maybe that's true but then what does she mean it's the ring? I don't like I don't understand why she would say that then unless if she hasn't seen it. Like what exactly is did a kid tell her about it? Maybe I guess there is other possibilities but it's it's definitely weird. The thing that a lot of people have been talking about is the eyes though and what they may potentially symbolize. I'll let the video finish first. It's almost done.

[00:18:38]>> What's that look like?

[00:18:40]>> Chicken nuggets.

[00:18:42]>> Serious note. Should I be concerned?

[00:18:45]Should I be concerned?

[00:18:45]>> I want to look up the actual psychology of children expressing themselves through drawings. Apparently, it's actually quite a Yungian theory, which is interesting. Not sure how you guys feel about Carl Jung, but let's read this. For children who find it challenging to articulate their feelings, drawing feelings can be a transformative tool. The act of drawing provides a non-verbal outlet, allowing children to express emotions that words cannot capture. This form of expression is particularly beneficial for those grappling with complex emotions, trauma, or communicating difficulties. Carl Jung, a pioneer in analytical psychology, emphasized the importance of accessing the subconscious mind. He believed that art, including drawing, serves as a conduit to the deeper layers of the psyche. Through creative expression, children can tap into their subconscious, bringing hidden feelings to the surface in a safe and tangible way. I did find this study here as well from the National Library of Medicine that sort of backs this up to an extent at least. Um, this is a very long article, so I'm not going to read the entire thing, of course. And when you go to like the results and stuff, there's a lot of weird scientific jargon and like um formulas being utilized here as well that I just have no idea how to how to pick at if that makes sense. Like I'd have to spend a lot of time reading this and I just don't have enough time in this video. If you're at all interested, I'd recommend you give this a look because it is a very interesting study.

[00:19:50]It's called expressivity in children's drawings of themselves for adult audiences with varied authority and familiarity. So yeah, it's not exactly trying to like it's not it's not as though they were asked to express their feelings or whatever. I believe it is self-portrait specifically. But nonetheless, it is pretty interesting. I I do think the research on this is rather limited. Furthermore, research supports the therapeutic benefits of art for emotional regulation. A study published in the American Journal of Public Health found that art activities such as drawing, feeling significantly reduce stress and anxiety in participants. This aligns with Young's theory, suggesting that engaging with artistic creation helps individuals process and integrate their emotions. In addition, drawing feelings allows children to externalize their internal experiences, making abstract feelings more concrete and manageable. It provides a visual language for emotions, bridging the gap between inner turmoil and external communication. This process not only aids in emotional expression but also enhances self-awareness and emotional intelligence. So I'm not going to psychoanalyze or try to like assert something here when I am not fully aware of what might be going on cuz I just don't think that is appropriate. But I will say that this description here and what I am learning about, you know, the whole expression of feelings via art or drawings. It does line up with the theory that maybe the kid is drawing eyes and has this weird fascination with eyes and drawing eyes and visual things like that because they feel as though they are being watched constantly by hundreds, thousands, millions of people even. They constantly have a camera in their face. However, as a kid, of course, you're not really able to verbally fluently express something like that or how it may be troubling you or maybe even, you know, um feeding into your ego if that makes sense. Like maybe they enjoy it. Obviously, they're a kid, so them enjoying it is not going to be in uh like informed by some sort of wider knowledge of how it may affect them. So, them enjoying it doesn't make it good by any means, but they may be enjoying it, but they may also not be enjoying it. Like, that's also a possibility. And maybe the eyes are a way of externalizing that through something that isn't verbal because they don't have the ability to express it verbally. Whether or not people think that's a reach, I guess, is subjective.

[00:21:37]I honestly don't know. But I do think it is interesting to bring up as a possibility for sure. Moreover, drawing can foster a sense of control and mastery over one's emotions. When children depict their feelings through art, they gain a better understanding of their emotional landscape. This newfound awareness can empower them to navigate their emotions more effectively.

[00:21:53]Incorporating drawing feelings into therapeutic practices and educational sayings can provide children with valuable tools for emotional expression and regulation. By creating a space where emotions can be visually explored, we enable children to process their emotions in a meaningful and healing way. Interesting. Definitely very interesting. This is definitely one of those things where I think you should be able to draw your own conclusions. I'd be very interested to hear what you guys have to say in the comments about this and what your theories may be. Is it just the kid likes drawing eyes when I was a kid? I like drawing eyes. Maybe I haven't psycho analyzed myself as a kid enough though because look at me. I'm a [ __ ] YouTuber now. So maybe I just always wanted to be looked at. Or maybe I just drew eyes because I liked drawing eyes. I really liked art when I was a kid, but then I had like a really shitty art teacher in high school and that put me off drawing and painting and stuff for ever really. I've not drawn and painted since then actually. Power of a bad teacher, right? be sad actually when I think about it cuz I really did like it. I had a really close friend who's like my best friend now. Like I'm still pals with them. They're a great bloke.

[00:22:45]But she was like trying to draw us apart being like don't hang around with that Owen boy cuz I'm telling you man, he's going to ruin your life. He's going to he's a bad influence. He's going to get you into all this [ __ ] when you're older. He was a [ __ ] She was the art.

[00:22:54]She was like an art teach. She didn't know us by any means by the way. So I remember I just sort of blew a fuse at her. And I was like it wasn't even that bad. I just told her to [ __ ] off and that she was a cuz like [ __ ] you. Why you chatting [ __ ] about my This is not appropriate surely. By the way, I remember she like um she threatened to call the police on me for teacher abuse.

[00:23:10]Obviously, I shouldn't have called her a to but she was so shitty and she had like a weird obsession with like all of the couples in our school even though we were like 13 years old. She also genuinely believed that she was like Van Go level of artistry. I really shouldn't say much actually because I forget I actually have like people that watch me now and there is a chance that she or someone she knows may be watching this.

[00:23:31]Look, if I get an email then I'll I'll keep you posted I guess. There's also this pretty infamous clip of Abby saying that she doesn't even change her baby's diapers or nappies as we call them here.

[00:23:41]>> So, um I don't no I I can't I literally I physically cannot do diaper changes. I can do number one diaper changes but number two I can't stomach it. And a story. I was literally I took Poppy out on a playd date at this uh playhouse and she took the biggest poop of her entire life there and I was by myself, not Josh. And I was like, "Abby, you can do it. You got this. I got the wipes. I got the the diaper the diaper." And I walked into the bathroom and remind you this is a playhouse of with just children. And the bathroom smelled like Have you ever opened like a diaper genie or a diaper pail?

[00:24:21]>> I have. Um, and it's the the most disgusting thing you've ever smelled.

[00:24:26]Imagine that, but knowing it's not your child's poop. So, I immediately walked in this bathroom. I'm gagging. I'm gagging. I walk out. I have to I drop Poppy. I I go up to my friend who's Thank God she was there. Was like, "Hey, this is the craziest thing to ask, but I can't I can't change your diaper. I can't go in there. I can't do it." And she was like, "Girl, I got you." And she's pregnant, too. So, I felt bad.

[00:24:46]>> Lo and behold, she changed puppy's diaper. And it was so embarrassing.

[00:24:50]Great friend.

[00:24:51]But I can't stomach it. And it's once I start gagging, I can't stop. Um, and it's been this whole pregnancy, even kind of before pregnancy, I I was able to do diaper changes, but it was hard for me. Like I' I'd have to put my shirt up and close my nose.

[00:25:04]>> Okay. So, you can do it. This whole like what? Stop saying that you can't and just say that you won't. But this whole time she was acting as though it is literally impossible for her to stomach the diaper changing process, but then now she's saying, "Oh, I can do it, but it's just a bit of a struggle." But yeah, sure. But it's a struggle that you should probably be willing to go through when it's your [ __ ] baby. For the record, I think the same thing goes for the man. By the way, I was changing nappies at like 9 years old. Obviously, you shouldn't be doing I sort of whatever. I shouldn't have been doing that. Like in an ideal situation, 9-year-olds shouldn't be changing diapers. I get it. I'm just making the point that I'm not saying that it's like a one-sided thing and that it's like the mother's responsibility to change the diapers. Like both of you know, you should both be comfortable doing it in my opinion. It's not like a pleasant. I don't think anyone enjoys doing it necessarily, but it is just something you need to do if you're, you know, wanting to have a kid.

[00:25:52]>> I can't do it. So, >> again, you can do it. You just won't.

[00:25:56]>> You are team diaper.

[00:25:58]>> Pretty much on. I've come a long way.

[00:25:59]Um, >> and for me, I'm like a germ freak. Like, I don't like But, you know, it's different cuz it's your it's your daughter. It's like half of you. Um, but she's much better now. Uh, a couple months ago, changing her diaper, it was uh >> All right, we don't need to hear the rest of this. I don't really give a [ __ ] I'm just so curious though, like if um like if that friend wasn't there, what would have happened? Would she just have let the baby fester in their own [ __ ] for hours on end cuz that's not acceptable in my opinion. Look at these comments by the way. People actually people one half into this. This man is the best and this chick needs to step up her part of the relationship big time.

[00:26:32]What is this about? Jesus. But Miss Herbert, you need to get woke. Take on more responsibility, especially with another child on the way and grow up.

[00:26:39]Mr. Herbert, father to your children, not dad to your wife. Dare you take off 2.5 weeks and stop doing what you do and do you boo and watch a change come from miss spoiled I'm a mummy model. This may sound harsh but dang woman you are borderline gaslighting in this relationship. Best wishes and much neededed prayers onto your family. This is such a weird comment, dude. Okay, there seems to be a lot of drama here around like washing the dishes. So, let me actually try finding that part in the podcast. God, there's so many of these podcast episodes. if there's this much drama in all of them, then this video could be like 15 hours long.

[00:27:10]>> With being on social media, we get a lot of PR. We get a lot of packages. So, we just have a lot of stuff um and that gets overwhelming. But yeah, I like Josh does the dishes. Like a lot of people are like, "My husband cooks, so I do the dishes." No, >> I do the dishes.

[00:27:24]>> Have I done Have I put a single thing in that dishwasher?

[00:27:27]>> Throw in the sink. Um especially your yogurts at night. I actually wanted to bring this up. It kind of >> It kind of uh makes me very angry. Uh, I make her yogurt at night for her and it's got like peanut butter, a bunch of sticky stuff, honey, and she'll eat it and then leaves the spoon and then it just sticks to the bowl cuz she leaves it out and she >> either leaves it on the coffee table till the next morning if I don't get it or she just puts it in the sink and just just fill it with water. If you're going to leave it in the sink, just fill it with water so when I have to clean it out, it comes out easy.

[00:27:59]>> It takes too much. It's like trying to chisel a marble statue. Um trying to get all that stuff out of the bowl. So >> yeah, >> but you know, I don't mind it because, you know, I'm grateful I was able to make that yogurt for you and I'm grateful to be able to clean it.

[00:28:12]>> I mean, I will say right here on this podcast, I have the best husband on this planet.

[00:28:19]>> I don't know. It just seems it just it seems sweet. Yeah. Like, yeah, I'm sure it's annoying, but [ __ ] we don't know all the interpersonal dynamics of this relationship. Maybe she does more in other sort of aspects of the life. Maybe she does the cooking. Who [ __ ] knows?

[00:28:29]Maybe she irons the clothes. And you know what? Even if she doesn't, even if this bloke is doing [ __ ] everything and she's doing nothing, although low key, it's impossible for her to be doing nothing. She's been pregnant three times and had to give birth three times. It's already a pretty that's a pretty big [ __ ] deal. Like I feel like if that is the thing is if you can get like um I feel as though it should be quite one-sided when your wife is pregnant, especially as it gets nearer towards childbirth. As the man, you should be doing a lot more in the house to accommodate for her. I'm not saying that she should be like some [ __ ] vegetable by any means, but you should definitely be a lot more accommodating.

[00:29:01]Like, if you have to wash the dishes more often, then [ __ ] deal with it.

[00:29:04]If you have to cook more often, then deal with it. If you have to stay at home, take care of them more often, then again, [ __ ] deal with it. And most people do. Well, I actually don't know.

[00:29:11]I'm not really sure. I'm not I've not met I wouldn't know. I guess I I just wouldn't know. I would hope most people do. So, yeah, I'm not going to judge I'm not going to judge I'm not going to judge them on that regard. Although, the excuse of it takes too much time is definitely that's bollocks. You're filling the bulb with water, lassie.

[00:29:24]Like, come on. Now, one part of the relationship that I might be a little more cynical towards is the age gap that we spoke about earlier. Here's the here's an excerpt from an article. When they first met, the model was only 17, while Josh was 24. And when they began dating in 2015, they faced a lot of backlash due to their 7-year age gap.

[00:29:41]The internet also labeled Josh's behavior as grooming after Abby posted a video which was captioned, "So happy he stalked me for 3 years after this was taken." However, the couple has also received a lot of love and support as their relationship flourished since they began dating. After nearly three years of dating, the couple got engaged in 2018 and married a year later and a half on July 12th, 2019. In an intimate ceremony, Josh and Abby Herbert revealed the news about their wedding a month later in August 2019. I'm going to look that up. Okay, so don't take this for certain because I'm not This is just a Reddit post. And I can't find any hard proof of any of this stuff, but here we go. Then there's the rumors of Josh grooming Abby because they met when she was 17 and he was 24. But apparently they met in 2013 and stayed in touch for 2 years before dating, whatever that means. In 2024, he wrote a tweet saying Abby would be his last wife and I believe still 17 at the time. Then in 2016, she made the caption of an old photo of them. So happy he stoked me for 3 years after this was taken. She deleted it, though. I get the banter of who liked who more whenever you first start dating, and I definitely teased my fiance that he liked me more um than I liked him when we first met, but I think calling it stalking is extreme and it gives people the wrong idea unless that's what it was. Yeah. I mean, me personally, I think 24 and 17 is a very, very creepy age gap. I kind of hate when people say this cuz it's just become so cliche, but it's also so true. But as a 22-year-old, I get like a feeling when an 18year-old is interested in me.

[00:30:58]Needless to say, 17 is [ __ ] off limits. M. I was 19 years old going to uni for the first time, pissed off at how annoying 17-year-olds were. Like, I would not have even looked the 17-year-old's direction if I knew their age at 19 years old. 24. I couldn't I could honestly I genuinely couldn't imagine. And when you put that 6-mon stalking comment that was deleted as well, yeah, it definitely does not paint a pretty picture. Here's another post as well. Again, I'm not sure I can't find any proof of this, but I absolutely do believe this. Abby barely gave birth not a few hours ago, and they have already posted two Tik Toks, one Instagram post, three plus Instagram stories, and one YouTube video. This is peak monetization of your children. Please just enjoy the time with your newborn and put the camera down. Yeah, absolutely. When you're doing that much publicization of the child birth, it's very obvious that like almost whilst you're [ __ ] pushing, you're thinking, "Oo, how am I going to monetize this?" It is almost sociopathic. It's like such a blatant disregard for the well-being and actual care of your kid and a very blatant regard, I guess, for for content. It's just like complete content brain. Even when literally giving birth and being in labor, I feel like most families, it's like a really somber you've just given birth. It's like a really somber moment, especially they want to enjoy the time.

[00:32:10]You've just YOU'VE JUST GIVEN BIRTH, MAN. LIKE, [ __ ] LIKE HAVE a have a moment there. There's a that's a moment.

[00:32:16]But for them, it's just a couple Instagram stories, a Tik Tok, and a YouTube video within the first couple of hours. Like, that's insane to me. Tell you what, though. I don't know if this girl sees pregnancies the same way that most people do because apparently she realizes that having baby boys means that she has bulls inside of her now, which is person. I don't know.

[00:32:32]Personally, I don't know any women who have felt this way before or who who care about this kind of thing or if this is like a particularly normal thought that most women who are pregnant have, let alone say online in front of millions of people. I It's just a [ __ ] strange, really strange thing to say. When questioned why Abby doesn't show her parents online, she gives a greatly ironic and hilarious answer.

[00:32:54]When we are with family and friends, we don't film. I can't Oh, that's [ __ ] insane. coming from people who basically film their child birth. Although they didn't film the actual child birth, but you know what I mean. I can't imagine basing content around them. But you can imagine basing content around your [ __ ] babies. This is insane. But at least your parents would have an idea of what was going on. We don't want to use other people for content. We like to keep it just as much as we can. Like surely you guys, like how can you write this and not realize the blaring [ __ ] irony or contradictions that are occurring here when you have a whole career predicated off of filming and exploiting your children for Tik Tok views? You've made millions off it.

[00:33:32]Like, how do you not realize how hypocritical you're being when you write this? Like surely when you're writing something, usually that's when you like really think about it. It's a good bit of advice I have as well. If you're like if you're if you're struggling with old memories that still make you cry, write them down carefully and completely because you tend to think about them a lot more in a way that is like introspective. And in my opinion, it does heal you. It's helped me tremendously. So, I don't understand how when writing maybe cuz it's on a phone or something, but like writing it surely there should have been like a bingo moment like oh, I can't even verbalize it properly cuz it it should be that obvious. Maybe I should write a picture. Write a picture.

[00:34:08]Jesus. This is what [ __ ] talking about these people is. It actually makes me dumber because we put ourselves online. Not our family/friend. My dad barely knows what Wi-Fi is, so he is an absolute uh no when it comes to posting on social media. Does your [ __ ] 6-month-old baby know what Wi-Fi is?

[00:34:21]That's not a good excuse, man. If that if that applies to your dad, it should apply to your son as well and your daughter. Obviously, this makes no sense. Your dad don't know what Wi-Fi is. Your kids don't know what [ __ ] anything is. Like, this is this is a genuinely unhinged post. The cognitive dissonance is [ __ ] palpable. It should be seeping through her goddamn paws. Okay, let's do a little interlude now and look at an epic prank that she posted.

[00:34:42]>> Prank on my husband who is afraid of everything.

[00:34:50]>> Now, that right there is bloody brilliant content. I don't even have anything to say. It's just [ __ ] embarrassing. Like, how are you not embarrassed? How genuinely how are you grown people, how are you not embarrassed posting that online? It's [ __ ] insanity. And the fake laugh she does as well. It's like, bro, I want to talk a little bit more about this weird obsession he has or she has with height.

[00:35:08]>> My real height. You ready? Oh my gosh.

[00:35:15]>> 58? That's not right.

[00:35:19]>> Okay. Wait. I think we need to go get a new tape measure because I am not 5'8.

[00:35:23]That is not correct.

[00:35:25]>> Okay. Let me reme-measure you with this.

[00:35:31]>> This is saying you're 56. No.

[00:35:34]>> Do we have to measure?

[00:35:36]>> Dad, >> I am more than two in tall.

[00:35:41]>> Yeah, he was wearing sliders before, you [ __ ] idiot. Like, it's so obvious.

[00:35:45]She going to say that now. Now I'm going to look like the idiot.

[00:35:49]Okay, I know. We're going to stop there.

[00:35:51]Um Um Maybe Naz, maybe edit that one out so it doesn't look like I just said something that she immediately says after. In the Halloween costumes, again, these are the different ones from the ones that we were looking at last time.

[00:36:01]Again, the whole joke is that he's just a short guy. And you got a whole different one as well, the new couple couples costume. And you got this here.

[00:36:08]It's the the tall queen short king video as well. This is a great running gag for their channel. This is again, it's one of the like I said, it's one of the three punchlines, one of the three gags that you get when you click on an Abby Herbert video. There's more. Don't worry about that. There's more. There's one right here. Trying this trend with a short king and pregnant. This is honestly all three all three punchlines that they have are being used in this video alone. You watch this video, you've seen every single video that the either of these two has ever made. Now, obviously, I don't think there's anything wrong with being shorter in a relationship. I actually I really like tall girls. When I used to go clubbing, I would like um I'd actually get perfume and I'd spray like a little bit of perfume on my forehead so that girls who were taller than me could like um could smell could smell me and think I smelt good, I guess. I don't know. Is that like embarrassing to admit? I thought it was pretty I thought it was pretty intuitive. But either way, there is something to be said about how constant this joke is made and how how much I don't have a problem with it because it's like a consensual jab at someone who is very clearly in on the joke and is able to conceive and understand what the joke means for them. Like it's it's it's obviously, you know, the joke is that it's like embarrassing to most people or whatever, but he is okay with said embarrassment. I don't know if he's actually embarrassed by it, but he seems okay with it, I guess. However, when you start applying those same um standards to your children and embarrassing your children in a similar manner, it's very different because your children are unable to conceive of what said embarrassment looks like or may do for them in the future. The best example for this is the constant naming of her first kid as pooped because she farts and shits a lot.

[00:37:55]So yeah, I mean that's one video, but she's made about 50 billion videos on naming the baby Poot. There's another one. I've been getting hate comments about naming my daughter Poot, and she makes like an epic prank where she says she's changing the name to Poot Legally, I guess. There's more as well, though.

[00:38:09]This is one of the three gags, right?

[00:38:10]It's either Pregnancy, Short King, or Poot. There's there's some other one.

[00:38:14]There's more. Everyone who bullies me for naming my daughter Poot James. P is such a unique and cute nickname. I who gives a [ __ ] There was even a whole article written about it. Mom trolled for naming daughter Poot announces second baby's name. Yeah, they make videos talking about how like these babies would poop in the bath and projectile vomit all over the bed or whatever and like piss and the [ __ ] very normal things that babies do unfortunately. And it's the kind of thing where maybe you like laugh about it with your friends if your friends are [ __ ] boring and they find that [ __ ] funny, I guess. But again, you don't announce it to millions of people. You don't talk. You don't go on TikTok. It's like I said before, it's like if you went to a [ __ ] assembly in your school and announced to every child in the goddamn school that your kid projectile vomited everywhere and shat the bed and did like all this horrible, disgusting [ __ ] You wouldn't do it.

[00:38:57]That's weird. It's [ __ ] weird. How do I have black hair? Her dad has brown hair and she has blonde hair. I don't know about you, Abby, but your hair don't look very black to me. My hair looks blacker than hers and I've got brown hair. It's difficult to tell though, obviously, because I'm AI generated, so this light behind me is like really well lit and stuff. Sort of changes the color of my hair a little bit. You know what? To put the AI allegations to bed, I'm going to turn this light off. How about that? We're going to turn it off for the rest of this video so you can see my natural brown locks. And there you go. I've done it. This doesn't look Oh yeah, this is actually weird now. But there you go.

[00:39:26]Yeah, this is a little uncing two close family members have sex with each other.

[00:39:30]This is a little uncomfortable. Alas, it's a choice I've made and I'm committing to it for the rest of this video at least. As I was saying though, um, but even if you were even if you did have black hair, like recessive genes exist, it's not it really isn't that complicated. Like it's not hard to imagine why two white European well European Caucasian people had a kid with blonde hair at all. You don't even look that pregnant. How are you in pain? No one said that. That is like what? No one said that. This is just the most obvious compliment fishing post I've ever [ __ ] seen in my life. Dude, it's not evil or anything. It's just cringe. Like there a lot a lot of what these people are guilty of is just cringe. You know what? I actually do want to show some of the stuff of them saying that they don't want to show the children as much despite them showing the children still.

[00:40:09]Have you decided to stop showing puppy and Jaggers's face on the internet? This has been my top question. We are navigating this as a family and figuring things out. We are limiting the kids for their protection. As much as I want to share my children with everyone because I think they are the cutest kids ever. I have to protect them and keep them safe.

[00:40:20]This is something that we have been discussing for months and with some recent instance, we decided it's time. I will go into more details soon, but as of now, this is where we are at right now. There is no right or wrong way of moving forward. Each social media platform is different, so we are just doing what we feel comfortable with in the moment. Look at these [ __ ] people that are messing. I I will never get over how deranged the people who actually watch these people are. You truly have the cutest kids with the funniest personality. So, it's hard not seeing them, but what's best for the family stays. It's like [ __ ] get over yourself, dude. It's like it's not your kid. It's hard not if you're really struggling not seeing this [ __ ] child online. That is like that is parasocial.

[00:40:55]That's like negative parasocial. I've been getting comments like this about my cats, by the way, cuz obviously I don't have the cats anymore. I've been getting comments being like, "Oh, it's just it's so hard for me not seeing the cats in your videos cuz I love them so much."

[00:41:07]I'm like, "All right, well, I'm sorry for your loss, mate. You know, they were my they were my cats." Yeah, but also I understand. They are great cats and they're in good hands. Don't you worry.

[00:41:15]They're in great hands. Happy and healthy. That's all that matters. And I will get a new cat at some point on my life. I will get new cats at some point.

[00:41:21]I have to >> show your breastfed baby your boobs.

[00:41:25]Just wait.

[00:41:31]So this is like another thing that she does con well at least did constantly.

[00:41:35]She had like this weird fixation on breastfeeding content.

[00:41:46]There you go. There's another one there.

[00:41:47]Probably replace the music now. I'm not sure if it's copyrighted.

[00:41:51]>> Jersey.

[00:41:55]>> Oh my god.

[00:41:57]What the [ __ ] >> She'll be doing it until she's 6 years old. Is that what it said? Jesus Christ, dude. I'm guessing that's sarcasm hopefully at least cuz that can get pretty dangerous for both the mother and the daughter. Look at this kid. That is a [ __ ] That's like a That's a toddler, man. Why is the kid that old breastfeeding? Look, I guess to be fair, it is possible and it is normal, I think, um relatively normal to breastfeed up until 2 years. So it's exclusive breastfeeding for the first six months and then there's like um sort of uh for the next um I suppose 18 months a lot of the time it's solid foods and a lot of stuff but like uh in addition to breastfeeding right it can go on for about 2 years and I don't think there's like a scientifically you need to stop by this point but generally after 2 years old it sort of stops there at at least like that's the upper limit from what I understand for most people.

[00:42:45]Again, obviously people who have breastfed before, you're more educated on this, so let me know in the comments.

[00:42:49]But that is a like that is not a baby.

[00:42:51]That's not a baby anymore. Either way, to be fair, I think that's pretty much everything that there is to talk about in regards to this family channel. I say that there is definitely so much more that we could potentially cover, but I'm not really one to go through every single podcast episode in this video.

[00:43:04]So, maybe we'll do that another day. But for now, I think that's a general overview. Pretty good enough to tell you how much I am not fond of their content, to say the least. So, hopefully you all enjoyed the video. If you did, be sure to like, subscribe, comment, and subscribe to my second channel, Shepherd Boy, where I post all my live stream clips. We upload once or twice every day. But also, this is you can be polyamorous, right? You can subscribe to this channel, too, cuz we're 400k, end of the month, baby. Let's do it. I'll catch you in the next one. Bye.