Police officers cannot demand identification from citizens without reasonable suspicion of criminal activity, as this violates the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches and seizures; citizens have the constitutional right to refuse ID requests when no crime has been committed, and officers who demand ID without proper legal basis may be liable for civil rights violations.
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At this point, I'm just getting called.
You guys are making people feel uncomfortable.
>> Is that illegal?
>> Can I fish? Thank you. The manager is asking you guys to leave. You guys are refusing to leave. Public sidewalk.
>> Well, do you guys have ID?
>> I'm not going to provide ID.
>> You're not going to provide.
>> So, therefore, we have a problem.
>> Want me to get your first name?
>> You're not getting my name.
>> You demanding ID with no crime. You got to have a crime to demand ID. You know that? How long you said you've been on the force?
>> A while.
>> You don't know you got to have a crime to demand ID? You didn't know that? You know the law that if I ask you for ID, you have to give it to me.
>> That's the law. If you ask me >> Hey guys, welcome back to the channel.
I'm your host Peeps and today we have cops walking away in shame after some master level ID refusals. ID hungry cops will say and do anything to obtain your ID. It's like crack to them. They have to have it. In the following clips, we'll see everyday citizens exercising their right to keep their identity private. No crime, no ID. Let's watch.
>> How's it going?
Everybody's house. I'm good. You can help me. You got a lot of calls today.
Uh, am I being detained?
>> Yeah, I need to talk to you guys real quick.
>> What am I being detained for?
>> That's what I'm trying to figure out, dude. You guys are not at this point.
>> They called. So, why don't you talk to the reporting party?
>> Let me talk to you first. Okay.
>> I'll step over here and talk to you.
>> Can we talk? Just Yeah, just to make it clear, are you detaining me?
>> Oh, yeah. Cuz you get in trouble on trying to figure out if they're a crime or not.
>> If you're detaining me, what crime do you suspect me? Dude, at this point I'm just getting calls. You guys are making people feel uncomfortable.
>> Is that illegal?
>> Can I finish? Thank you. The manager is asking you guys to leave. You guys are refusing to leave.
>> Public sidewalk.
>> This is their >> Can you please get a supervisor? Thank you.
>> I don't need to bring a supervisor.
>> If you're If you're illegally detaining me >> and telling me I have to leave a public sidewalk to leave, then I'm going to be detaining you. If not, there's no >> Are you Are you telling me that I have to leave a public sidewalk?
>> The owners have asked you to leave, right?
>> This is not their property. This is a sidewalk.
>> You're making people feel uncomfortable.
That's not a crime.
>> They're trying to do service you dude.
>> That's not a crime. I have not I have not impeded in with their business in any way, shape, or form. Do your investigation before you detain me unlawfully and make a mistake. I'm just working on a video, man. And first of all, I I really >> feeling uncomfortable, man.
>> Are you Are you here to uh police people's feelings or the law?
>> The law, dude.
>> Okay. So, please tell me please tell me if it's leave the property, dude. If you're not a dude, then there we go.
>> We're We're not on the same page here.
This is a public sidewalk.
>> They own this walk.
>> Please call a supervisor. They don't own the sidewalk. Please call a supervisor before you make a mistake.
>> Take a seat over here.
>> I'm not taking a seat. I will stand over there, but please call your supervisor.
You're going to make a big mistake.
>> What's the mistake?
>> You're going to be liable for a civil rights violation and I will take you to court and you will lose your qualified immunity. I will attach myself to your pension. So, please call a supervisor for your own sake. This is a public sidewalk. The restaurant doesn't own it.
Okay.
And just so just so you know, um I don't even have to tell you all the ID.
>> I'm not going to provide ID. You're not going to provide.
>> So therefore, we have a problem. Can you give me ID, dude?
>> Call a supervisor, please. You're going to you're going to make a mistake, man.
You're going to make a mistake. Call a supervisor.
I'm going to stand right over here.
This guy's a tyrant. Absolute tyrant. He doesn't know about the law.
Tyrant, >> how you doing, sir?
>> Are you Are you a supervisor?
>> I'm not a supervisor.
>> Okay.
You got a supervisor coming?
You guys have a supervisor on the way?
>> Uh on the way.
>> All right. Thank you.
>> What was your badge number?
>> What's that?
>> Have a good day.
>> Uh supervisor not coming.
>> No.
>> Okay. What was your badge number?
>> 0857.
>> 0857.
Hey. Um >> get out of the road, dude.
>> Don't give me directives, please. I'm not breaking any laws. Yeah.
>> Okay. I have a question for you.
>> Actually, can you just learn the First Amendment, please? And don't willy-nilly detain people for no crime? No crime at all.
You're dismissed, tyrant.
Knowing your rights is crucial when dealing with police. This next clip is a perfect example of a cop getting refused and walking away in shame. No ID is given, no crime, no ID. It's that simple.
>> I can't hear you.
>> I can't hear you.
>> Are you still >> the building?
>> What?
>> It's a beautiful building.
>> How you doing?
>> You're good to report, man. All right.
Want to know what's going on. That's it.
>> Recording the building.
>> Excuse me.
>> We just got called on you recording. We want to know why.
>> Oh, recording the building.
>> What's that?
>> Recording the building.
>> For what?
>> It's a beautiful building, >> isn't it?
>> Yeah.
>> You doing it for like a a project or anything or for your own?
>> Just recording, man. Just recording.
>> You got ID on you by chance?
>> ID for what?
>> Me to check to see who you are.
>> No, I don't. I left my ID in my other jeans pocket. Sorry.
>> You got nothing? No, I ain't got nothing.
>> You got a name on you if you don't mind.
>> Which name you want?
>> The name that you go by?
>> I go by plenty of names. When I was in When I was in middle school, they called me Skinny Mini.
>> When I was in high school, they called me chocolate thunder, >> which right now my real name. What do you need my name for?
>> Legal name.
>> For what?
>> Cuz I want to check to see who you are.
You're wearing a mask or recording.
>> Okay.
>> You're being evasive. I >> Okay. Anything illegal in that?
>> No, but I'm doing my job. I'm doing your job.
>> Okay. Well, do your job. Well, you're the sidewalk so that you know everybody can walk by. I'm standing right here.
>> Be standing in one spot.
>> Why can't I?
>> Cuz the law states that.
>> What's illegal about it? What's illegal about it?
>> Let me get your first name.
>> You're not getting my name. Call your supervisor.
>> You want me to call my supervisor?
>> Call your supervisor. Call your sergeant. Call whoever.
>> So, you want to send over a supervisor?
I have a male uh recording refusing to give me his name or his legal name, I should say.
How you going to come out here? How you going You came out once you got out the car. You said I wasn't doing nothing wrong and then you asked me for ID. How?
Yeah, >> that don't make no sense. You got to What's your >> I don't know what you're doing.
>> What's your rash?
>> My rash is that you're You have a mask on.
>> Okay.
>> You got shades on.
>> Okay.
>> You're recording outside.
>> You got shades on. Okay.
>> I don't have a >> You recording outside of a bank, too?
>> You're right. I am.
>> You're doing the same thing I'm doing.
>> I'm acting as an official of the government.
>> Okay. And I'm taking pictures. Anything wrong with me taking pictures? That's all I want to know. Bank is pretty odd.
>> Okay. Well, maybe I was born odd. Maybe.
I don't know.
>> It's fine if you are, but it's just a bank is kind of weird.
>> Okay.
>> Are you Are you scoping it out here?
>> I'm looking at the building.
>> I understand.
>> It can be It can be any type of building. I'm just looking at it. You see?
>> Yeah. Just can't come out here and just demand I mean, you just demand ID from anybody out here.
>> Look at this. How long you been on the How long you been on the force?
>> Called to this call, man.
>> Okay. But how long you been on the force? Yeah, but when you came out here, you see it was a guy standing out here doing nothing wrong. What's the problem?
You should have went inside there and told them, "Hey, this guy doing nothing wrong."
>> Well, you're recording outside the bank.
>> What's wrong with that?
>> With a mask on.
>> What's wrong with that, officer? What's the name of badge number? What's your name and badge number?
>> Uh, Goldfar 522.
>> Who?
>> Goldfarb 52.
>> Goldfar. All right.
>> You demand an ID with no crime. You got to have a crime. Demand ID. You know that? How long you said you've been on the force?
>> A while.
You don't know you got to have a crime to demand ID? You didn't know that?
>> You know the law that if I ask you for ID, you have to give it to me.
>> That's the law. If you ask I ask you for your ID.
>> You ask me for ID, that mean I could politely decline.
>> Well, now I'm asking you for your information.
>> Okay. Well, am I being detained right now?
>> You're not able to leave yet.
>> But am I being detained?
>> You're not able to You're not free to leave.
>> But am I being detained? So you detaining me for no crime right now?
That's what you're doing right now?
>> You're not leaving. You're staying put.
So, you're detaining me. That's >> how you can leave me.
>> Are you detaining me? It's a simple question. Are you detaining me or are you not detaining me?
>> I'm going to pick me up.
>> Which one you doing? You're detaining me or you're not detaining me? Which one?
>> Which one you want to go with?
>> I just want to know cuz I'm ready to be free to go.
>> You detaining me?
>> No, you call for my supervisor. So, my supervisor is going to come in.
>> Yeah. Your supervisor is going to probably train you on if you say you've been on the force for a long time. The supervisor might change you and tell you that you just can't demand ID.
>> How you doing? Can I get your name and badge number?
>> Officer Reed 567.
>> Officer who?
>> 567.
>> Name and badge number. Sir, New York.
>> Name and badge number.
>> Green Bush 578.
>> Green Bush. I like that name. Green Bush.
>> What's your name, sir?
>> I don't get my name.
>> How's that? How you doing today? I'm doing good, man. I'm doing good. I was doing good until this officer here, officer. I don't know his name, but >> this officer tried to >> I don't know, man. I don't know.
>> You need anything from us?
>> I know. Look, this what I got.
>> You all good?
>> You are you detaining? Am I still under detention, sir?
Am I still under detention?
Sir, I'm going to deal with this guy in the bank since he want to put me under detention.
Am I still under detention?
What they say? Are you guys >> You put me under detention. They didn't put me. They said they they gone. They You put me under detention.
>> Yeah, but you put me under detention. I got things to do. You just detaining me for no reason.
This guy a tyrant here, man. He say been on the force for so long and just detaining me for no reason. Demanding ID.
Is he crazy?
There's no crime here, sir. Get back in your car and go to work. Since you want to detain me.
>> How you doing?
>> How you doing? Your name badge number?
>> Lieutenant McMillan.
>> Lieutenant, how you doing?
>> Good. Yourself? What's going on?
>> Good. The officer here put me under detention for no crime. Just standing on the sidewalk taking pictures.
>> Okay. All right. So, >> can you let your officer know that he just can't demand ID and >> put me under detention for no crime at all?
>> Okay.
>> So, obviously we're interacting cuz Well, it's part of our call, right?
>> Okay.
>> Which you're allowed to be on this sidewalk film all you want. Record all you want. Okay.
>> Long as you don't go in there and disrupt them. You can stand out here all you want. Record all day long. All right. Just don't block any passageway people trying to get through.
>> Other than that, there's no reason to identify you. No, I know. You ain't got to tell me, but you need to tell your officer here >> cuz maybe he didn't know. You say ain't been on the force for a long time.
>> These officers here was great. They came out, see what I was doing, see nothing wrong. They said we going to leave. This guy wanted to put me under detention.
>> We're going to leave, too.
>> So, am I still under detention?
>> No, you're not under leave. Okay.
>> All right. Thank you.
>> All right. Have a good day.
>> Y'all have a good day, too. And be safe, man.
>> I like the gimbal.
>> Thank you. Be careful before you put people under detention.
car number five. ID man, four officers for a man with a camera.
When you know you've done no crime, you have the right to refuse. This last clip is a head scratcher, folks, so buckle up.
>> What's going on?
You're asking me what's going on. I didn't call you. I told you. I told you.
I told you. I'm standing there doing my job. I don't want to go back inside.
Thank you.
You guys got lic. What you want a license for, bro? What's the license going to do for you?
>> Just don't know what I'm speaking. It's >> No, no, no. None of your business, man.
You're talking to a citizen. A regular a regular human being. You're talking to a human.
>> I know.
>> That's it. You don't need my license.
What you need my license for? To know my address? Said why did you just ask me for my name?
>> Huh? Because you're a public servant and you work for the people and you're supposed to provide your name.
>> And I did.
>> Exactly. I'm not supposed to provide no license or none of that.
>> You're the one that made that calm down.
>> What?
>> You are yelling in public >> and you're feeling some type of way, bro. You're the only one feeling uncomfortable.
>> You have to calm down. Have you ever heard You want to make a complaint?
You're going to make a complaint.
>> Have you ever heard of freedom of petition?
>> Freedom of what?
>> Petition.
>> Petition.
>> Yes. Yes. Exactly.
>> Okay. You allowed to do that.
>> You heard of freedom of speech.
>> Huh? How about that one? Constitutional right.
>> It's a tongue, bro. It's my tongue, man.
If you don't like it, you take the uniform off and you quit. What's wrong with you, man? You supposed to hand my right.
>> You got to CALL YOUR SERGEANT.
>> EXACTLY. HOW ABOUT THAT?
>> GOT TO CALL SOMEBODY ABOVE.
>> EXACT. I say I'll quit the job, man. You can't handle my tone.
>> Why are you yelling? Cuz I speak like that. I have a strong tone. Like I said, if you feel some type of way, quit the job, sir. 38.
>> YOU CALLING FOR BACKUP?
>> NO, I'M NOT.
>> ALL RIGHT. All right. I speak like that.
So, try not to feel no type of way or none of that.
>> You never met a man in your life, bro.
>> What?
>> You never met a man with a strong tone.
>> WHY YOU SPEAK LIKE THAT? DID YOU GET OR YOU DIDN'T HEAR ME, BRO?
>> HUH?
SO, your boy over there called you for help. So, go help him. What you told them? You got backup.
>> Oh, shoot.
>> They sneaking up.
>> How you guys doing?
>> What up?
>> Close your eyes.
>> You don't need to tell me what I'm allowed to do, sir. You don't tell me what I'm allowed to do, bro.
>> Your name and badge number for the people.
>> Number 38.
>> Your name and badge number for the record for the court and for the prosecution.
>> Thank you. Is your body cam on?
>> Is your body came on?
>> Right here.
>> Is your body come on, sir?
>> Yeah.
>> Thank you very much. Now, how can we help you? What's going on, bro?
>> How can we help you?
>> I don't need your help, bro. I need you to move like away from me, bro. You guys got guns. You're surrounding me.
>> So, what are you guys doing? What's this?
>> It's none of your business, bro. He called you. Go help him.
>> It is my business. What are you guys doing here?
>> None of your business what I'm doing, bro. He called you.
>> He called you.
>> Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Go move back, bro. What's wrong with you, bro?
What's wrong with you?
>> All right. I'm standing there with you.
Yeah.
>> Started to work. There's gentleman right there standing there holding the camera at me. I asked him why he's holding the camera. Why don't filming me? He didn't give me an answer.
>> And you call the cop like a shooter. So why he not why he's not listening?
>> It's none of your business, bro. You're recording right now. You're recording right now.
>> Why is he I'm recording?
>> YOU'RE RECORDING. EXACTLY. SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? ARE YOU RECORDING ME?
>> NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. NONE OF MY BUSINESS.
>> WHY ARE YOU RECORDING? ARE YOU SERIOUS?
>> I AM SERIOUS. MIND YOUR BUSINESS. YOU STAY IN YOUR BUSINESS, BRO. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
>> YO, STAY AWAY FROM ME, BRO. What are you doing behind me, BRO?
>> STOP.
>> DON'T TELL ME WHAT HOW TO SPEAK, MAN.
YOU DON'T TELL ME HOW TO SPEAK.
>> STREET. You're acting this world.
>> To who? To who? Who's the complainer?
>> Who's the complainer?
>> How that works?
>> Who's the complainer?
>> How that works?
>> I'll challenge you on that in court.
Arrest me for that.
>> You're here. Yo, stop playing with me, bro. Stop being a tyrant, man. Be friendly.
>> You have to have something better to do.
>> Who?
>> You don't tell me what's best for me to do, sir. You got something better to do.
Go catch the criminals. Exactly. Go catch your criminals. You just wasting time here. THERE'S PEOPLE GETTING RAPED OUT THERE. AND DON'T TELL ME TO BRING MY TONE DOWN.
>> You stop screaming in the middle of THE STREET.
>> I SPEAK LIKE THAT. I COULD GET A BULLHORN. DO YOU KNOW I COULD GET A BULL HORN AND SPEAK TO YOU, BRO? AND RED ADDRESS MY GOVERNMENT WITH A BULLHORN.
Did you know that?
>> CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED ACTIVITY. YOU HEAR HIM INSIDE? LEARN FROM YOUR BOY.
>> I NEVER SAID THAT YOU COULDN'T >> BLOWING YOUR VOICE. IT'S MY TONE, BRO. I SPEAK LIKE THAT. I HAVE A FREEDOM OF SPEECH, BRO. I EXPRESS MYSELF THE WAY I WANT TO, G. AND YOU ASKING ME FOR LICENSE? Are you crazy, bro?
>> I'm allowed to ask.
>> You're allowed TO ASK WHATEVER YOU WANT.
YOU'RE ALLOWED TO VIOLATE ANYBODY'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW YOU to do that. You heard?
>> I'm not violating.
>> YOU TRY TO VIOLATE MY FORCE asking for license.
>> I'm allowed to ask anybody.
>> YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO VIOLATE NOBODY'S RIGHTS. HOW ABOUT THAT?
>> I did not.
>> Thank you. Because I'm not going to allow you to >> and if you want to, it's going to cost you money.
>> All right.
>> And you don't want that.
>> And your uniform probably.
>> Learn from your boy, boy.
Constitutionally protected activity.
Keep it down. Don't tell me how to do what I do, bro. You don't tell me what to do.
>> You keep spit.
>> So go inside, man. Get an umbrella.
>> You keep spitting.
>> Get an umbrella.
>> Get So get the away from me, bro. Back the up.
>> How you doing? Is everything good?
>> Yo, take care, man. Get hurt. God bless you. Got to go.
>> Yo, teach your boy some lessons, BRO.
TEACH YOUR BOY A LESSON, MAN. You >> got dirty as hell, man. I'm going to see you guys on the phone and papers.
Stop asking people for license. You hear me?
>> I see a lot of miles people.
>> The Fourth Amendment requires that before stopping individuals, police must have reasonable suspicion that a crime has been, is being, or is about to be committed. A police officer should not be stopping individuals without at least meeting this requirement.
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