A minor retail dispute over the phrase 'excuse me' escalated into a felony case when the subject physically resisted arrest, demonstrating that a single act during transport can convert a misdemeanor battery case into a felony battery on a law enforcement officer, with the legal framework governed by Terry v. Ohio for investigative detention, Graham v. Connor for use-of-force standards, and the totality of circumstances analysis for probable cause.
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Sir, I didn't touch that lady, bro.
Yeah, well, now you touched her and you kicked me and you kicked my partner, so.
Sir, I did not TRY TO KICK Y'ALL.
>> Good job. You turned a misdemeanor into a felony. Good job. Sir, I apologize. It was a reflex. Yeah. February 7th, 2026, a retail store dispute became a textbook case in primary aggressor analysis. Hi, are you guys having some kind of disturbance here?
What's going on?
>> One of the ladies, she's in by the cereal aisle right now. Okay.
One of the other managers, I'm guessing they left already.
Okay. Where's the person who called?
Okay.
Hi.
>> Hi. Um Yeah, let's get out of the way here.
What's going on? So, I just they were there was a white woman and a high schooler, black and a white. Wait a wait a wait a minute. I said, "Excuse me." I go, "Excuse me." He didn't hear me. Then he pulled he moved over. And then the one girl goes to me, "You didn't say excuse me." Blah blah blah. Started the [ __ ] with me. And I was like, "Yeah, I did." And she goes, "No, you didn't."
And I'm like I'm like in the middle of the aisle there and she's here.
>> This aisle here? Two aisles over. Cereal aisle. But like I'm just right there and she's over here.
And then she starts saying, "I'm going to, you know, who do you think you are?"
Blah blah blah. Swearing and going on at me. Then she came out after me and I physically attacked me. Like she came over, grabbed my arm, grabbed my hand, tried to switch tur- take my arm back.
These are like girls in their 20s. And then the other girl and there's >> This is the girl in pink that grabbed you?
>> No, the girl with her. The other girl with her is crazy. What was she >> pink girl took her the other girl off me. And I was by myself. So, the one in pink pulled the other one off you. Okay.
>> But she's like And then they just started walking off?
>> No, they were screaming and saying, "You're saying all this racist I didn't say one racist ever in a million years anything." They're saying then they're videotaping me. I'm like, "I'm going to call the police." You call the police.
No, I'm okay. No, I'm fine. I appreciate that. This arm just came out of a cast.
Oh, that's the kid. That's the that's the kid who was with them. Yeah. Hey, where's the young lady with the pink that was with you? Hold on. Come here.
What happened between you and this nice lady over here?
Okay.
I got to talk to you. So, she's alleging that you guys put your hands He didn't do anything, but he was there.
Well, what did the the other the ones that jumped her have on? Uh what they had on them on their body was the pink stretchy pantsy thingy what they be wearing.
>> Like a body suit or like like leggings?
Like this the leggings, yeah, the leggings. Pink leggings? Yeah, pink leggings and one had on gray leggings.
And it was three of them, but only one of them jumped on this lady. Well, the one that jumped on the wrong one she wearing? Uh gray leggings. Gray leggings? Yeah.
Is that her here?
Are you guys all together?
Here, let's step over there so we're out of the aisle.
Okay.
Okay, first of all, no one said that.
Apparently >> She did say that. How you going to say she didn't say that?
Okay, so how you going to Well, I didn't say Did I say that she said it? Or did I say no one said that, okay? So, so how about this? I didn't say she So, how about you bring it down a little bit.
Security guard pointed you out. I guess you guys were involved in some sort of physical altercation, okay?
What?
How am I going to run the cameras back if I show you Can I need your ID first?
Okay, what's your name then? What's my name? Beyonce Knowles. Okay, do you have any saying so?
You say what?
>> any paperwork or any sort of ID? Okay.
What about your membership?
I mean, if we go all that route, we could go all that route.
Do you have your ID with you?
No, okay.
Yeah, you'll see her.
But it was my arm that twerked.
And she grabbed your arm you said? Yes, she did.
Can y'all run the camera Y'all don't have a way to run the cameras back?
Yeah, here. me check my phone real quick. Oh, the camera's off. Okay, I don't want to talk to you. Can I talk to somebody else, please? See, can we come If you If you If you come at me with the same amount of respect and I respect then I know Okay. And you said she didn't say that.
>> And words are words. I don't give a [ __ ] It's I don't care. Don't call me no It's all the words. You know how many times I get called [ __ ] You right.
Words are words. You right. You right, but did I touch her? No, you right.
I get called I get called I get called the worst It's It's It's [ __ ] derogatory terms. to my right. We been through some [ __ ] It's Black History Month. Of course, a white honky going to pay with us cuz it's Black History Month. Of course, they're mad. They're mad. See, that's that's not helpful, all right? Do you mind Would you be able to help me kind of get them to calm down? Would you be able to do that for me?
Cuz she's like not even happy that we're talking to her and we're just trying to do our job.
She grabbed it here.
Hard, like real not light, like really hard and was like around. Okay.
Yeah, right there's her nail scratch.
You see it right there.
So, the one with the reddish hair is the one who grabbed you? That's the Not the one in the pink, but the one with the reddish hair? Yeah, she wearing the pink hair. And what would you And what can we do to help you out today? Well, what can we do? I mean, I just got attacked.
Okay. So, did you take pictures of her arm? Yeah, you can see the nail scratch.
All right, so basically, you know, her putting her hands on you is a battery, all right? Yeah, I want to file charges.
Okay. All right, so we'll need you to stick around so you can sign the form.
She hit me with her cart and all I said was, "You can't be Excuse me, ma'am?"
Stop recording me.
Who recording?
Okay.
Okay. I can record too. It's fine. You guys are being recorded right now.
That's fine. I'm on camera. That's That's That's fine. But, a civilian whatever They want to call it. They are recording.
What you recording for? You got social Like, what are you recording Can you talk to me and tell me what happened? I don't know what happened.
Okay. Well, I need you to stop moving around. You're detained right now, okay?
I'm detained? Yes. So, what happened between you and this lady over here?
>> She bumped my sister with her car. My sister said, "Ma'am, you can't say excuse me." She said, "I did [ __ ] say excuse me." She She gets to talking stuff. And I said I said I said I said I said I said I said I said I said I said I said I said I said I said I said I said I said I said I said I said I said I me.
So, you're saying she She got in my face. She got in both of our faces talking stuff. She grabbed my hand and bent my fingers back. I never touched her.
So, she's detained, too?
Yeah, well, she's there, too, and we're trying to put it together.
So, you're saying So, so you're alleging that as you guys are saying excuse me just over this aisle dispute, she pulled She She had an attitude because we But But she physically touched you? Yes, she physically touched me and physically hit her with her car.
The camera will show that. She got upset because we was already standing right here. She I didn't know she was behind us. So, I said, "Excuse me." And I'm like, "Okay."
I'm telling my little cousin to I'm having a hard time hearing you over her.
Can I talk to you over here? Yeah, I really don't even know why why she called the police. My thing is she started off the conversation. All she said was, "You didn't say excuse me."
That's it. That's Was there anyone that you see standing around us that saw this that isn't involved? I don't know nobody in this store. But did you see like anybody here that Cuz so here And here's the issue that I'm having, right? I'm going to level with you. So, she's she's alleging that you grabbed her by the arm, okay?
>> I threw my keys. I never touched her.
Well, okay, but that doesn't help.
I understand. So, what we're having here is a problem where she's alleging you touched her first. However, now I'm talking to you, right? I said, "Ma'am, don't record me." So, when I put my hand right here, she grabbed my hand and >> That's what she said to me. bent them back. Yes, I I So, she like pushed them back? She bent them back. She took my hand and went like this. Okay. And this is when you were recording her? She was recording me.
>> She was recording you?
>> Yes, and I said all because she said you didn't say excuse me. So, you put your hand up to tell her like hey, don't And so she So, it was like that to No, she she took my fingers. Look, take my fingers and she bent [clears throat] them like that. Okay. I never touched her. Never touched us. Did she leave any marks on you from this encounter?
>> Yeah, she did. She bent my fingers back.
She bent them backwards.
>> She bent them backwards? She did like this. Do you need medical attention right now, ma'am?
>> Not only medical attention, but >> Okay.
I never physically touched her. Like, I don't even know if she touched her.
Don't know her. You've never encountered her before? You've never seen her before?
>> because she got upset because she said I didn't say excuse me. Well, she didn't I say excuse me. She started mocking. Then she caused Called her a woman. Called my little nephew a woman.
This woman right here. I This is the This is the This is the boy.
>> again, what people say, right? It's you know, it's one of the things get physical that problem. It never got physical.
>> So, here's Here's what I'm going to try to do, okay? I'm going to try to get the staff to help us find footage of this cuz again, you guys are alleging Again, I understand. I heard you out, okay? At this point, I can't really say one way or the other, all right? She's alleging you touched her first and you're alleging she touched you first.
I I understand. We're going to try to get this done as soon as possible. So, do you have any form of ID with you?
No? Okay. We'll take your We'll take your name. I'm going to have staff uh >> I don't want to get my name cuz I I just feel like this is not fair. Like, I I I have other stuff going on, okay?
>> Okay. Well, we We heard you out, too, right? So, when we have an allegation that something got physical, right? Now we need to investigate.
>> What got physical?
You told me she physically bent your fingers back. But I never touched her. I never touched her.
>> I'm not asking you about that. You told me she got physical with you, right?
Yes, she was recording me without my permission. You put your phone in my face. I felt threatened. So, yes, I put my hand right here and said, "Do not record me." I never once touched And that's when she grabbed you. Yes, and she grabbed my hand. Okay. That's what I need to investigate because if she grabbed you, now I need to arrest her.
So, you're saying she touched you first and she's saying you touched her first.
Do you I understand. I heard you out, right?
All right, miss. What's your last name?
I don't want to do this. I don't want to do this.
You're You're in a bit of a bind, okay?
Because she's alleging and she's being cooperative, right? Do you understand what I'm telling you?
Tony. Nobody touched her. Can you uh Can you try and see if uh we can pull up footage if they have a camera up there?
Because when I was on the phone with the police station saying there's two Yes, she was It was all on uh 911. Yeah, that's fine. The 911 call I said that it is not racist, you know. I guess do me a favor, just hang out over there. Yeah, I want him to know that.
>> Okay, I'll let him know.
Uh hang out with her for one second. I'm going to see if you can get her name cuz we She put her hands on me. Yeah, I'm going to Yes, cuz they like this. We don't want him to stay with us. We feel like he was You got You got to stay here.
>> say me. He said I was >> Both of you guys are detained.
But I'm telling you you're detained.
Listen, you're about You guys are going to get handcuffed. You are detained.
Stay here. I'm advising you you are detained. I don't care if you don't want me here. You are detained. detained, okay?
>> got 263.
>> Yes, ma'am. You are detained. I'm not detained. You are I'm advising you you're detained. You want me to put handcuffs on you? I'll put handcuffs on you.
It's not detained. When you go in handcuffs, it's possibly you're detained or arrested. You are detained. I'm advising you you're detained.
You see anyone swarming around that would have been an independent witness to this? But obviously I mean I would talk to your husband, but he's going to he's going to take your side. Cuz they have witnesses too that are taking her side. Do you see the problem?
Yeah, we're we're trying to get the for cooperation now.
Oh, they can't She can't answer me. I'm not bending any fingers. I didn't touch any fingers. Okay.
>> She scratched me here under my coat. She grabbed my arm so hard and scratched me.
Okay.
We're going to We're going to try to get this video. Did Did you happen to see if there was cameras facing that aisle?
Okay.
Uh so I guess you're saying that it's a new system, so you're not going to be able to get footage.
They're not going to be able to get footage?
>> Not today.
I don't know what's happening, but I don't want I I I'm just We said we have to document everything regardless, right? So I already got her Listen, at this point she's been more cooperative.
She's got marks on her arm, and you don't even want to give us your name.
>> touched her. I don't know how she got marks on her arm. I never touched her.
>> I never touched that lady. Okay, that's fine. No, I'm not GIVING YOU MY NAME CUZ NOW NOW I FEEL LIKE Y'ALL PURPOSELY DOING THIS TO TRY TO ACCUSE ME OF SOME [ __ ] THAT I DID NOT DO.
>> I asked you, didn't I? I asked you, what happened? And I'm like, OKAY.
>> SHE'S GOT MARKS on her arm. I DID IT. I NEVER TOUCHED HER. WHAT ABOUT MY ARM?
I ASKED you if you had any Okay, well like she's got marks on her arm, too. So if you're telling me that she put hands on you, I and you're my victim, but what is your name? You're not giving me your name.
Right?
What are we doing? Why why are you What's going on? She said that somebody hit her. She's alleging that that lady put hands on her first, okay? First of all, the lady said that I hit her. She said that he hit her. He's saying that that's her story so messed up she don't know who hit Who hit her? Who touched her? She said you specifically hit >> Can you stop recording cuz this ain't [ __ ] to me. People can record you and Yeah, sure they can. Okay, listen.
Listen.
All right.
My uncle was on his way anyway. He's a sheriff. All right. If you're my victim, I need your cooperation and you're not being cooperative.
>> know what y'all trying to do here. I did not touch THAT LADY, BRO.
>> RECORD ME.
OKAY, that's fine. I don't want TO GO TO JAIL. I DID NOT TOUCH. WHY WOULD I TOUCH? I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT [ __ ] I'm asking you for your cooperation and you're giving me nothing. You won't even give me I did just cooperate. I just TOLD YOU WHAT HAPPENED.
>> OKAY, so I need your name if you're my victim, right? You're alleging she she put hands on you first.
>> say? She's a victim. She Of course she's going to say she's a victim. She's the one who called.
hit her. Now she's trying to narrow down to she didn't hit her. Well, I tried to explain to you what she said, but you keep talking over me. I don't You ain't getting to the point so why you trying to say any mother You you My uncle on his way. He's a sheriff. So when he get here, we'll Yeah. We'll we'll get to the bottom of Okay. We'll get to the bottom of it. He's a sheriff.
Okay, that's fine.
Do me a favor, miss. I need you to turn around and put your hands behind your back, okay? You're going to be placed in You're going to be placed in the custody for battery, okay? So I need you to turn around and put your I need you TO STOP RESISTING.
DON'T RESIST. DON'T RESIST. OKAY, I'LL GIVE YOU MY NAME, SIR. I did not touch her. Can y'all please Put your hands behind your back for me.
They didn't run no camera. This lady is sitting here lying. She never touched this lady, bro.
Give me your phone, miss. Can I get her phone and SWAT AT MY HEAD one more time, YOU'RE GOING TO HANDCUFFS. BACK UP.
BACK UP. YOU ARE INTERFERING WITH ARREST. Back up. Don't grab my hand.
Don't grab my hand. Stop resisting.
Stop. Stop. Stop. I'm not scared of you.
That's fine.
>> I'm not scared of YOU. THAT'S FINE. I'M NOT SCARED OF YOU. YOU DON'T SCARE ME.
That's fine. That's fine. So what's up?
What's up?
>> fine. I'm That's fine. I'm not scared of you. No, Y'ALL CANNOT TAKE MY PHONE. I'M NOT RESISTING. I'm Oh, you need to like HOLD YOUR PHONE. WHY? NO, I CAN'T.
WHAT?
I'M NOT I'M NOT SCARED OF YOU. I'm staying here. I'm going to stay here.
Guess what? Because I can stay here for as much as you can.
The legal framework here is mutual battery doctrine, not a simple he said, she said evidentiary contest. This weighs five factors: injury severity, defensive wounds, witness corroboration, statements, and cooperation. Figgle evidence balances the cooperation differential between parties becomes decisive for probable cause. Terry versus Ohio, 1968, governs the initial investigative detention of both disputing parties. Terry requires only reasonable articulable suspicion, a threshold materially lower than probable cause for arrest. The complaining witness presenting visible injury independently satisfies the reasonable suspicion threshold. Tension is an objective Fourth Amendment seizure, measured by circumstances, not by the detainee's belief. A verbal denial of being detained therefore has no legal effect on whether a seizure has actually occurred. Teable versus Sixth Judicial District, 2004, governs identification duties during lawful detention. Stop and identify jurisdictions refusing to disclose one's name is itself an independently chargeable offense. Even absent such a statute, refusal substantially undermines credibility before the investigating officer.
Providing a false identification, such as a celebrity name, exposes a subject to separate misdemeanor liability.
Probable cause for arrest demands a totality of circumstances analysis, never a single isolated fact. Three independent evidentiary pillars together established probable cause for misdemeanor battery. Pillar: a cooperating complainant who produced contemporaneous photographs documenting visible injury. Pillar: a fresh nail scratch mechanically consistent with the alleged grabbing and twisting of the arm. Pillar, the subject's own admission against penal interest regarding initiating physical hand contact.
Statements against penal interest carry heightened evidentiary reliability under Federal Rule 804. Water versus Lago Vista 2001 authorizes full custodial arrest for even minor misdemeanors.
Supreme Court expressly rejected any Fourth Amendment bar to custodial arrest for minor offenses. Custodial arrest for simple battery therefore presents no constitutional infirmity under settled precedent. Miranda versus Arizona 1966 attaches only upon custodial interrogation, not field questioning.
Pre-arrest investigative questioning during a Terry stop does not require advisement of constitutional rights.
Volunteered non-elicited statements remain fully admissible at trial without any Miranda warning required. Transport phase introduces a separate criminal episode legally independent from the underlying battery. Battery on a law enforcement officer is classified as a felony in nearly every American jurisdiction. Pre required is general intent, knowing physical contact, not specific intent to cause injury. Defense of accident requires the contact to be wholly involuntary and outside the actor's control. Seeable kick during actively resisted restraint will rarely satisfy that demanding accident threshold. Resisting arrest with violence in most state codes attaches as a separate and concurrent felony count.
The lawfulness of the underlying arrest is an essential element of any resisting arrest prosecution. Because the arrest here rested on fully developed probable cause, that essential element is satisfied. So, I'm not doing anything, all right? That's right. That's right.
Why would I touch you? I did 6 years in prison for touching y'all [ __ ] Why would I touch you again? Oh, that's something to flag size. That's something to flag size. Yeah, it's a lesson learned.
Know the difference.
2:33 time on the clock sir.
I did NOT TOUCH THAT LADY BRO.
All right babe, watch this. When y'all let me go I'mma show y'all that something. Okay, sounds good. Keep saying that on camera. I don't give a [ __ ] Y'all heard what I said. Y'all heard what I said. Yeah, yeah. Y'all didn't even want the cameras that bad.
Hey [ __ ] He y'all y'all hurt my arm. He out If you can If we can get her name Stand up. We're not doing this. Y'all hurt my arm.
Y'all hurt my arm.
I can feel her pulse TENSING UP. I'M NOT Y'ALL MAKING ME SICK.
DID I HIT THAT LADY? NO, SHE DIDN'T.
EXACTLY.
WELL, where's your witnesses? What we need TO THEY'RE THERE. I ASKED YOU FOR COOPERATION.
>> KNOW WHAT IT WAS. I ASKED YOU FOR COOPERATION. You wouldn't even give me your name.
So, this is where we're at now. Bro, this is lame as bro. I did not touch that Okay.
>> [snorts] >> So, it's not up to me to decide, right?
It's up to a judge. That's weird. I got three kids at home. My baby is sick as a dog.
>> Well, I'm sorry but that's not my fault.
>> Please.
No.
Stop.
Stop.
>> I'M NOT. I'M NOT. SQUAD, GET BACK INSIDE. YOU'RE UNDER ARREST. PUT YOUR [ __ ] SHOW ME.
YOU KICKED ME IN THE FACE?
>> I didn't try to. Huh? You kicked me in the face?
I didn't try to sir.
>> Put your leg inside.
>> please talk?
>> Put your leg inside.
>> I have a newborn at home.
Please, I didn't try to kick you. You hurt >> You just KICKED ME IN THE FACE.
>> YOU JUST KICKED ME IN THE FACE.
>> PUT YOUR FOOT INSIDE.
>> TO YOU PLEASE? DON'T TOUCH ME. BACK Don't touch me. Back off. I'm not Back off. DON'T TOUCH ME. BACK OFF. DON'T TOUCH ME. BACK OFF. DON'T TOUCH ME. BACK OFF. DON'T TOUCH ME. BACK OFF. DON'T TOUCH ME. BACK OFF. THAT'S FINE. DON'T TOUCH ME. BACK OFF. LET HIM COME. BACK OFF. I WISH SHE WOULD. I WISH SHE WOULD.
I WISH SHE WOULD.
I'M TRYING TO RUN OUT. I DID NOT HIT HER.
I DID NOT HIT THAT LADY BRO. Bend your knees. I did not hit her. Bend your knees. Stop.
No.
No.
See, they're in a car hitting her with a baton and [ __ ] >> No, they're not. Stop. They're not.
>> her.
They're hitting HER. THEY'RE HITTING HER. THEY'RE HITTING her in the car. I didn't try to kick him.
You did kick [laughter] him. I didn't try to You kicked him. Let me go. You hurt my leg. You break my leg, YOU GET IN TROUBLE.
>> [screaming] >> WHOSE CAR IS IT? TAKE HER. TAKE HER.
TAKE HER.
I'LL [ __ ] your ass up.
I'll [ __ ] your [ __ ] ass up.
I'll [ __ ] your [ __ ] ass I bet you won't [ __ ] me. I BET YOU WON'T I BET YOU WON'T COME ON.
COME ON. I BET YOU WON'T [ __ ] me right there. Let her go. Let her go. Let her go. Let her go. Let her go.
Go ahead, walk home.
Walk home.
Walk home.
I didn't touch that lady, bro. Yeah, well, now you touched her and you kicked me and you kicked my partner, so Sir, I did not TRY TO KICK Y'ALL.
>> Good job. You turned a misdemeanor into a felony. Good job.
>> Sir, I apologize. It was a reflex. Yeah.
Graham versus Connor, 1989, supplies the controlling Fourth Amendment use-of-force standard. It's in reasonableness is judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene at the moment of decision.
20/20 hindsight is expressly excluded from the Graham objective reasonableness analytical framework. The Graham factors are severity of the crime, immediate threat, and active resistance or attempted flight.
Handcuffing techniques throughout remain at the lowest end of the standard use-of-force continuum. Strikes, no impact weapons, and no chemical agents were deployed at any point in this encounter.
1983 federal civil claim would face the substantial qualified immunity barrier.
Qualified immunity demands a violation of clear established law, not merely debatable or arguable conduct. The state of record here aligns with established Fourth Amendment doctrine and likely defeats such a claim. The reporting officer earns a B- legally sound and tactically adequate with minor verbal drift. The complainant earns a C+ cooperative and credible yet partially self-initiating in the verbal dispute. The arrested subject earns a D a sequence of choices producing felony exposure from misdemeanor starting facts. Companion earns a C- contributed to escalation but lacked independently chargeable criminal conduct. Thing one, identify yourself when lawfully detained because refusal carries no strategic legal upside. Two, invoke silence rather than argue since argument almost always produces admissible admissions. Thing three, never resist physically because the proper remedies for unlawful arrest exist only in court. Four, a single act during transport can convert a misdemeanor case directly into a felony prosecution. Thing five, cooperation in the eyes of the investigating officer functions as substantive probative evidence. Six, invoking a relative who serves in law enforcement has zero legal effect on probable cause. Thing seven, every word captured on body cam is preserved evidence and remains fully admissible at trial. Do you know or in the comments which legal topic or interaction you would like to see analyzed next? Gee, thank you for watching.
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