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Jeff Teague REACTS to Austin Rivers getting CALLED OUT on viral clip from 'To The Baha' podcastAdded:
All right, man. Tap in. It's 520 somewhere, man. Free to real. Free the real.
Happy Mother's Day, man.
>> All right, man. Shout out to >> forever.
>> Shout out to Austin Rivers, man. Stupid.
He was so straight to the Baja and he had to pop his [ __ ] And this is one of the funniest back and forths ever.
Please play this.
>> Yo, little dude in the middle piss.
>> Zero skin in the game.
>> Just just yell it on.
>> Not zero skin, but let's get the facts.
You want to get the facts? I can get the facts. Okay, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Get my [ __ ] off. Let me get my [ __ ] off. I Let me finish and then you can you can get your [ __ ] off because he's I already He's going to try to he's going to try to pull up some statistics as if I don't have my own. So that that that that's the problem with what what I'm going to do with everything. Not to mention, I I have cold hard facts of evidence of contracts that were given to me by other teams at that time that were just as high as the Clippers. First off, no one hands anybody a $40 million contract on the way out the door. I got a vet minimum before I earned that. So, >> no, no, you're right. That's where I made the mistake. But we'll address where where I made the mistake. So, go ahead. Go ahead.
>> Okay. Yeah. Because because I I average better numbers than like Christian Broad and he got $120 million contract. And that's in today's day. So, people comparing my contract during a spike in the year where everyone was getting contracts. Tyler Johnson got 50 million.
Bitchback got 70 million. Cher's got 90 million. Crab got 70 million. This is what was going on this year because the NBA money went out.
>> And that's what I define lucky. You were lucky you got a contract in 2016 because they were handing out money.
outperform that. As I said, you're lucky. No, no. You Let's get Let's get to Let it rock a little bit. You got Jordan Clarkson money. He a 164 and three. You got Air Gordon money averaging 15 and three. You average 9 and2. So, how do you deserve that money they got?
>> Where do you make money at? So, you >> Well, how do you make money? How do you DESERVE THE MONEY THEY GOT? BECAUSE YOUR NUMBERS WERE SIMILAR to Wayne Ellington who signed for 12 for two. Jordan Farm who averaged nine. Similar efficiency, similar averages. Ray averaged 94. Ray averaged 94 and4. You got a bigger deal than him, >> brother.
>> Randy's average 74 in 18 minutes. He got one in five. So, how did you get the deal?
>> Please explain to me.
>> I'm veterans are are comedy.
>> Please explain to me, bro.
>> I'm arguing with I'm arguing with the best man, the the best friend in Spider-Man.
>> And at that point, WE CAN STOP THE CLIP.
HEY, HE COOKED THE [ __ ] OUT OF HIM for that. I laugh.
>> The best friend for Spider-Man. Yes, bro. It's funny as [ __ ] >> I do know that. That's hilarious, >> bro.
>> That was a good one. AR get his [ __ ] off. Uh, one thing I will never do, I know probably feel the same way. Like, it don't matter how you feel, disagree about something, there's nothing that I could ever say to Jeff because he did something that I did not do >> just because we worked together around stuff. You can't say like these [ __ ] did accomplishments we didn't do. I could never tell him something more about the NBA cuz he was kind of out of pocket when you be talking about these [ __ ] paper.
>> More importantly, >> how [ __ ] go.
>> Pocket watch is always out of pocket. He may had a little grace with his pops, whatever, how that worked, but he was still a a decent ass player, bro. I think [ __ ] be trying to take that away from him. He wasn't, no disrespect, he was nowhere near Bronnie James.
>> Mhm.
>> And I mean that with the utmost respect.
Like he was a solidified player. Like, you know what I'm saying? In the world at the time.
>> He got paid off the playoffs, though.
>> Yeah. He killed in the playoffs. Like he was playing well.
>> Yeah.
>> But like he said, it was other teams that offered him the money. Just why wouldn't you go with your pops?
>> Yeah. And I think dude just didn't have his facts all the way all the way straight.
>> I just feel like you're not even in the position to be talking to somebody like that. Especially when we talking about money. That's out of pocket. But like >> that's out of pocket, bro. Now if you going to compare if you and him have like a casual debate cuz this is what I tell athletes like and I feel like athletes say all the time like y'all [ __ ] never played. But I'm like bro y'all [ __ ] never raped. And we talk about who better between talking and big pocky. A [ __ ] can have their opinion.
It's just when [ __ ] try to go as far as he did. I think you got to draw the line somewhere.
>> Yeah. You can't tell somebody what they was deserving of cuz you don't know what somebody else viewed someone as like you don't know why. Like I can sit here and say I don't think blah blah blah deserve this.
>> Mhm.
>> Well, you don't know how that person viewed them. Like [ __ ] they deserve that because that person viewed them that way.
>> Yeah. Gina said all the time how he locked in with the owner, how he got his bread. Like that's relationships matter, bro. Like Christian Brown, like you said, we don't know how the Nuggets viewed him at that moment when they gave him that contract. They might look at him differently now, but at that moment, they like, "Shit, >> we keeping this [ __ ] We like him."
>> So, you can't ever say how somebody viewed him. But as a person who didn't play or who's not in that world to talk about somebody getting money and tell them they lucky and stuff, that's just not your place. And it ain't no different. I mean, I get he trying to build himself in the media, >> you know, make his voice or whatever heard on the pod cuz he with a bunch of NBA players, but I feel like Charlie V and them should have told him like >> cuz all them [ __ ] got paid before.
>> Yeah.
>> So, they know what they know how [ __ ] work, right?
>> Yeah. So, you should have been like you out of you out of pocket a little bit, bro. I get you trying to get your [ __ ] off and joke and [ __ ] >> but >> and cuz you really don't have no real stats cuz you don't know what really goes into play with that [ __ ] bro.
>> It's just not a threshold that you cross that you could just have a conversation about. Some stuff is just like that's for them to talk about.
>> Yeah, I'm okay with him if he feel like Chandler Parsons was better than this [ __ ] >> and I'm something on that debate. Yeah, I'm debate. You can definitely say as a fan.
>> Yeah, >> I think oh buddy nicer than you, you going to say, okay, that's your opinion, >> right?
>> But you when you start talking about people money and what they deserve, you got lucky cuz your like >> that's a little too much.
>> And we all got who friends that play at the highest level that say stupid [ __ ] that we always debate with. But for me to say, well, you lucky you made this, [ __ ] No, I'm out of >> Cuz he could say that to them. Him. Like only reason you even talking to me is cuz you around them.
>> Yeah. I wouldn't know you if >> Yeah. And >> are you deserving of this? There's somebody else to journalism school that should be in this spot.
>> Yeah. And that probably ain't fair cuz we don't know what he we don't know what they view him as. That might be their guy. You feel me? So >> it goes hand in hand. I just hate that.
I just like I said, my only beef with athletes, even football players, whatever, is when [ __ ] say, "You can't say who's better than who because you didn't play." And I always bring up, well, you [ __ ] didn't rap. Oh, y'all have the common conversation as everybody else. Pac, Biggie, Ho, Yay, everybody. You know what I'm saying? So >> you can have your opinion on somebody game. Then you can critique, you can critique people game. You can say, "Hey, I don't think you shoot the ball well. I don't think you do this." And if you got some stats to back it up, cool. Like he has stats. You only average this and this and this. That's cool. Wayne Ellton got this. Maybe Miami ain't view. Wayne Ellton.
>> Yeah. New York or the Clippers view Austin Rivers. Maybe he ain't bring that defensive intensity that Austin Rivers bring or that secondary ball handler or to be able to run the offense or to get 25 points on random nights. You just don't know how they view.
>> They put himself in the NBA player shoes cuz it do be NBA [ __ ] be like, "Man, this [ __ ] just got this. I know I'm better than this nigga."
>> Yeah. You got that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Let >> who go against him. You got to let that >> If that was Ray Felton saying, "Man, you got 40 million, [ __ ] I know when I was in New York I was a better player than you. I should have got that money.
>> Yeah.
>> They also could have went back and forth like, "Well, da da da." They could have a debate like, >> "Yeah, >> but bro, you you bringing up people that don't probably even care about this shit."
>> Facts.
>> Not at all.
>> I didn't even realize he got that money from the like I don't even remember when he got that money.
>> Me either.
>> And I didn't give a [ __ ] but I knew he was a good basketball player.
>> Yeah. I'm like, he was trying to discredit him.
>> Yeah. Workplace conversations a little bit different when y'all having them type conversations like, "Oh, my coworker make the same as me or more or less." Get it? We all work together.
>> I honestly [ __ ] with the AR and Draymond debate. That [ __ ] >> I think it's hilarious.
>> That [ __ ] is funny to me.
>> But that's two hoop [ __ ] talking.
>> That's more understandable.
>> Yeah, I can take >> from a threshold we didn't cross. We can't talk about >> [ __ ] You ain't man, you was weak, [ __ ] You only got that cuz your daddy.
>> Yeah, >> I can take that from Draymond because he can go back. Draymond like you wasn't like that, bro. Like and they can go back and forth.
>> I'm cool with that.
>> Yeah. It's just funny seeing Austin Rivers in this spot cuz I think people kind of >> as much as you talk about him hooping, the [ __ ] is a phenomenal analyst, >> bro. Here, like you said, his second act, bro, he's gifted, bro. He's amazing at what he does on the broadcast, bro.
>> Like, that's what make it scary for Dude, he better than you.
>> That's your [ __ ] >> Like, that's what make it scary. And I even I even like dude, I think his name.
>> Yeah. No, he dope for sure.
>> I [ __ ] with him. But it's just like he actually better than you at that >> cuz you don't have that ball knowledge, bro. [ __ ] can't outspeak y'all on this [ __ ] >> Not on basketball.
>> It's too hard, bro. Especially if you a real basketball mind.
>> I could watch basketball my whole life, study it, make it be religion, I could not ever tell you something in the game cuz I've never been that experienced.
>> I can never relate to that. But him calling him Spider-Man best friend was funny as [ __ ] and I had to >> just when I knew he he kind of got to him a little bit though.
>> You know what I mean? I was like, damn, he kind of hit him because when he said like you average the same as Wayne Ellington, blah blah blah blah blah. It kind of like hold on like >> watch out.
>> You look like Spider-Man's best friend.
I was He got him a little bit. He He hit a button a little. I [ __ ] with that.
That's kind of [ __ ] I do. I go for sure.
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