This video demonstrates how a mother's persistent questioning and recording of police officers during her son's detention exposed inconsistencies in their explanations, ultimately leading to the release of her son and his friends. The incident illustrates that citizens have the right to question the legal basis for police detention, demand identification, and challenge unreasonable conduct, while police must provide clear, consistent justifications for their actions under the Fourth Amendment.
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A Mother Demanded Ansewers – Police Couldn’t Explain The DetentionAdded:
Well, tell me. You took an oath to it.
Name all five parts of the First Amendment and you got Mom walking away and you guys can do whatever you want.
Go ahead, run the plates in retaliation.
It's all right. I got you doing it.
>> John, what did they say you did?
>> Yeah, what were you getting arrested for?
>> When we got here, we were trying to break into this car and now we're trying to steal it.
>> Really? What was your raz?
>> My what?
>> Your reasonable articulable suspicion that my son was uh committing a crime, about to commit a crime, or did commit a crime. What was it?
>> Like I said, man, he's >> No, what was it? I'm asking you.
>> Police detained an 18-year-old man and several of his friends, but when his mother rushed to the scene to find out what was happening, officers repeatedly refused to clearly explain the reason for the detention and appeared to shift their story from one allegation to another. As the mother calmly demanded identification, questioned the legal basis for the detention, and repeatedly asked what crime her son had committed, the officers became increasingly evasive and struggled to provide a clear explanation for their actions. But instead of backing down, she continued recording and challenged the legality of the officer's conduct. In the end, when they could no longer provide a consistent justification for the detention and a supervisor arrived to review the situation, the flaws in the officer's narrative began to unravel. As a result, her son and his friends were released, while the officers were forced to end the encounter and quickly leave the scene.
>> What was your probable cause to roll up to somebody on private property?
>> This is not private property.
>> It is private property. You wanted his ID?
>> No.
>> Then what?
>> I'm not going to tell you anything cuz this is an ongoing investigation and your son is is an adult.
>> Okay. Name and ID.
It's your policy. What are you?
Can't see yours. Name and ID.
Name and ID.
>> Yeah. Settle down, ma'am.
>> No. Nick, move. Tell me your name.
>> My name is Officer Mahoney.
>> Okay, was that so hard? What's your ID?
>> Why are you being so difficult?
>> Because you guys are arresting my son on Christmas Eve.
>> Well, then he shouldn't have been doing what he was >> What was he doing?
>> I can't tell you that.
>> Fixing a quad?
>> No.
>> What was he doing? Fixing a quad? Oh, okay.
>> He's an adult, unfortunately, ma'am, all right? So, he can explain the charges and what's going on and what happened.
You guys >> [ __ ] It's all [ __ ] >> How do you know it's [ __ ] man? You don't have any idea what's GOING ON.
>> CUZ I WAS ON THE phone listening to you guys manhandle him.
>> manhandling him.
>> Really? Is my son in tears right now?
>> I know, he's not crying as far as I know.
>> And he really just got here. What's his name and ID?
>> He won't identify himself.
>> He's not going to adhere to your policy?
Cuz I don't adhere to your policies.
>> himself.
>> No, I will Yeah, that's called the Fourth Amendment. Yes, it is. Being safe and your papers and property and effects what is you. You're laughing like you know what I'm talk What's the first thing If you can tell me all five, I'll walk away.
Well, tell me. You took an oath to it.
Name all five parts of the First Amendment and you got mom walking away and you guys could do whatever you want.
Go ahead, run the plates in retaliation.
It's all right, I got you doing it.
>> Sean, what did they say you did?
>> Yeah, what were you getting arrested for?
Really? What was your RAZ?
>> My what?
>> Your reasonable articulable suspicion that my son was a committing a crime, about to commit a crime, or did commit a crime. What was it?
>> Like I said, ma'am, you >> No, what was it? I'm asking you. I can FOIA request this, dude. It don't really matter. You're just being difficult. So, Sean, what are they arresting you for?
>> I don't know.
>> Ask him. You have to ask him.
Oh, what are you going to do Are you going to take his rights away?
You do. I do. I know my rights. I know my rights. That's who I am.
>> You know your rights, but you don't >> All right, my son who's being arrested is asking what he's being arrested for.
>> Ask for a supervisor.
>> I'm I am the supervisor, ma'am.
>> Ask for a lieutenant.
>> I'm the supervisor, ma'am.
>> Ask for a lieutenant. What are you being arrested for?
Ask him. Ask him.
>> So, tell me. Tell me. Tell me.
Cuz you got to look really >> Sean, just keep asking. Just keep asking.
>> What am I getting arrested for?
>> Just be quiet and wait for the car to get here.
>> No, keep asking.
They have to tell you.
>> Tell me.
Tell me.
>> We're investigating.
>> Oh, so that means you're not under arrest. That means you're being detained. Yeah, so you just said you're detaining him for not IDing himself. Is that what you just told me?
>> not say You did say that.
And he doesn't have to.
>> Listen, I'm going to tell you about the law right now, right? 98 subsection D means that cops lawfully have to ID themselves, right? That's for you guys, right? Two, I have to give your name and your ID. They just [ __ ] redid that.
You don't even have to give your ID when you're arrested anymore. So please, why is my son in cuffs?
>> Really? Do you want me to look up the law right now for you, Mr. Wink Wink?
>> Come on, look it up right now.
Look up the law on IDing yourself. They Listen, you're being detained right now.
You don't got to give them [ __ ] If they have no crime, they I'm telling you. You don't have to give them [ __ ] And the fact that they have you on that cold ground right now goes to show what kind of people they are.
Shows what kind of people they are.
>> The only laws that require you to provide your name and address to the police are connected with being in a motor vehicle.
>> See what the call really is for.
Suspicious activity. I don't see anything about theft.
>> This is the call that we had tonight.
>> For a break-in?
>> Uh it was actually the call I believe that they were stealing catalytic converters. They had many dead cats.
>> So it was suspicious activity according to the cat.
>> Yeah, so let me explain to you what happened, right?
>> He was. Hold on. No, no, but he stopped me to talk to I don't want to talk to you cuz you've been sitting there to laugh at me like I'm a joke the whole >> Well, I don't know. I find it kind of >> It is funny because under the Constitution, you I have every right to sit there and tell you how much of a [ __ ] sucker I think you are.
>> That's fine. Let Let Officer explain to you what happened.
>> Then let him talk. Stop interrupting him.
>> So this is a call that we had.
>> You're not letting him do [ __ ] >> Um there was four males trying to steal catalytic converters. This is what the caller said, okay?
We show up. As we're walking up, we can hear the grinding.
>> Okay.
>> And the four of them were tucked.
>> I see two.
>> We have another one on the fire over there. They're all tucked up.
>> And what what is he being arrested for?
>> What's that?
>> Hold on. Hold on.
>> I'm just telling you this. I'm telling you the whole story.
>> Okay.
>> I'm telling you the whole thing. All right, so we show up, we hear the grinding. As we show up, uh your son hops on one moped and starts running and trying to take off. Another moped took off that way.
>> That's not legal.
>> And the other kid wouldn't stop. Nobody stopped.
>> Okay, but that's not legal.
>> they get detained. As we're investigating to figure out what's going on.
>> Right. All right. What's about that?
>> Well, it from what we're seeing the screwdriver on the ground, the side of fluid, it looked like they were trying to steal the moped.
>> Or it could be trying to fix it.
>> No, but it's not their moped.
>> Okay.
>> They don't know who owns it.
>> All right, but what do they really this screwdriver >> We think they're trying to steal the moped.
>> Okay. Is it stolen?
>> So they're detained right now.
>> stolen?
>> The moped?
>> Yeah, is it stolen right now?
>> No, but it's not theirs.
>> Okay.
>> From what from what it looks like >> crime has been committed yet.
>> It looks like they're attempting to steal the moped. Okay.
>> Okay.
>> So that's why they're detained until we can investigate everything. Then you showed up and everything's going on.
Okay?
>> Cuz he said that he's arrested them for not IDing himself.
I had you on video.
>> So that's this is why they're detained right now. Okay?
>> All right, so that's why they're detained right now. Okay?
>> And we're we're trying to figure out what's going on. We're trying to figure out where this caller is. Okay?
>> Cuz right now there's no victim, right?
>> Yeah, but and we and now we're trying to ID the caller to make more of this.
Okay?
>> That's who the is unknown to anybody whose scooter that is, right? So nobody's reported that scooter stolen yet. So whether it's theirs or not >> You don't know if it's not your son's or not.
>> Right, but whether you do or not, but you don't have any concrete evidence right now is what you're saying.
>> Do you guys have any questions?
>> We're going to make complaints.
>> Come on in. Come on in to uh >> Yep. Oh, yeah. I even watched you have open on you, Mclaughlin.
>> Zero. You >> Zero, yeah.
>> Lieutenant Ware is at the station right now. You can go talk to him.
>> Perfect. Thank you.
Thank you. Get Get them out of cuffs.
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