Lucasfilm doesn’t seem to think Rey can be saved

Ajouté : 2026-05-27

[00:00:00]Now, welcome to another edition of news from Naboo with Thor's Lightning Takes.

[00:00:05]And let's get right to the news.

[00:00:07]All right, with Mando and Grogu behind us, we're going to look at something else that might never happen. Wait, wait, we're just like done with Mando and Grogu?

[00:00:14]>> but I wanted to talk about this a couple days ago, and now I'm going to talk about it now. The Damon Lindelof, you know, he was going to be co-writing and directing the new Rey movie with Justin Britt Gibson. He got fired, and he talked a little bit about what happened.

[00:00:31]>> again?

[00:00:31]>> No, no, he got fired before.

[00:00:33]>> the first one, right? Or the second one.

[00:00:36]>> hard to keep them in order.

[00:00:37]>> Okay, so he's not the one that's supposedly working on it right now, is what you're saying?

[00:00:40]>> No, no, but now he has finally talked about it a little bit about what happened with his Rey-focused movie.

[00:00:48]Now, his story started in 2022. That's when he was brought on to do this, to do the new Jedi Order that was supposed to be set 15 years after Rise of Skywalker.

[00:00:59]So, he was the first, then.

[00:01:01]>> Yes, he he was the first. He was taken off the project about 2 months before it was like officially announced in April of 2023.

[00:01:10]>> At Celebration, yeah?

[00:01:12]But now he's come out to say why things didn't work out. He wanted to do this nostalgia versus revision type narrative. He said, "What we were attempting to do was have this conversation in the movie, which is to say there is a force of nostalgia, and there is a force of revision, and they're at odds with one another. Let's do the Protestant Reformation inside Star Wars." He's trying to was trying to make a movie that might reconcile the the old fans with new fans type situation.

[00:01:46]He said the approach didn't work. He said the conversation that the fandom is having without winking and looking at the audience, that it didn't necessarily feel that risky. He may have been fired not just because it they didn't seem to like the premise, but they said the writing was really hard. Really hard?

[00:02:06]Who said the writing was hard? Lucas filmed it him? Yes. What do you What does that [laughter] mean? They're saying that the structure and everything just was really rough to work with.

[00:02:15]So it was really hard to make a movie out of. They couldn't nail this structure down.

[00:02:21]The tone of this movie comparing the relationship with the fans and the sequel trilogy, nothing was working. Cuz they I think he wanted to try and reconcile what she was to what she should be and that just wasn't working. We know that Steven Knight came in to write a new version of the script.

[00:02:38]>> He came in in October 2024 and then by January 2025, he kind of left. So he wasn't in there very long either.

[00:02:48]Lindelof wanted to make sure he put the spotlight back on Rey and it wasn't working. He was kind of concerned that maybe maybe the center of Star Wars, the Skywalker saga following the Rise of Skywalker wasn't Daisy Ridley's Rey anymore. That maybe something like Din or Ahsoka is the new center of the Star Wars focus, which is funny cuz wasn't it a few weeks ago we covered how Dave Filoni's center for his storytelling is Ahsoka?

[00:03:15]>> Ahsoka, yeah. So does That was said by Favreau, yeah. Right. So it's hard to say that maybe they're just deciding that this Rey thing isn't working out and they're trying to quiet exit it and they just couldn't figure a way to make the writing for her work. But why? I mean, I say that trying to be objective because like I understand there are people who don't like Rey, but I'm assuming they come from a perspective of trying to or believing that Rey is a is a salvageable and good character. So why couldn't they make her work? Does that make sense? Was it that she's too far gone? Because the fandom is so against her in the first place that knowing when they announced this movie it merely turned into a joke and they couldn't find a way to write this in a way that could appease people. I guess that's what I'm asking. Are they so cognizant of the fact that Rey isn't liked by a good portion of the fan base that they just don't think anything they can do work? They tried and they're like, I just don't think people are going to like this. Is that what they're saying?

[00:04:09]What is it like hard?

[00:04:11]>> That's exactly how I feel. The The way he phrased things makes it sound like writing for Rey is difficult to try and write a character to be good, to be loved after the atomic bomb went off on them. I guess you could put it that way, yeah. Right. When something is so poorly received by the fan base, it's really hard to redeem them. Rey got so destroyed, especially in the second movie where she was the girl who could do anything.

[00:04:35]It got so messy that they just figured how are we supposed to save this? How are we supposed to fix this? But the fans, a lot of them don't seem to want this fixed. They want Rey to fade into obscurity and to just move on with Star Wars without her. Yeah, I think that's what most people want. Mhm. They either outright want the sequels retconned or at the very least them ignored. They don't want a Rey movie. They don't want her fixed. That's what I've heard from many fans. I've done Obviously on my channel plenty of videos about the sequels and talking about the subject and the consensus from at least my audience that doesn't necessarily mean the whole Star Wars fandom, but they just don't even want her fixed.

[00:05:10]Even if you had like a really good idea, they just don't want her fixed.

[00:05:15]I I get that. Because she got so tarnished in that middle movie there that people didn't even want to see her in the third movie. They wanted to know the ending so they went to see it, but she was Her character was so rough to watch in that middle movie that you just look at that and go, first off, this feels like a totally different character. It felt like a different character.

[00:05:35]>> feel like a different character. I agree with that, yeah.

[00:05:37]>> character. I didn't think she was horrible in Force Awakens. I think she's great in the first half of the movie.

[00:05:41]I've said it a million times. She's really good in the first half and then >> If they could have followed through on the second half fulfilling some of the the promises that were kind of hinted at in the second half of the first movie, it could have been great. But instead, we we just wadded it up into a little ball and threw it to the cats. But I mean, the second half could have been salvaged with a good answer as to her origin or what is going on with her, why she knows the thing or is powerful and can do mind tricks and beat Kylo Ren and all that.

[00:06:07]>> that in the second movie, then that that is forgivable. You'd like her more during the second half of the first movie. Let's not forget the biggest question. And it was for 2 years, videos left, right, and everywhere on YouTube were about who are Rey's parents. And that is because people wanted to know the explanation as to why she is the way she is.

[00:06:25]>> she turned into nobody, which made people more angry. And then she turned into a Palpatine. We're like, okay, whatever. You guys don't know what you're doing anymore.

[00:06:32]>> Exactly. So now, how do you fix this How do you keep fixing this character? It seems like every movie they've made with her, they've tried to put a band-aid on and change the issues. It doesn't work.

[00:06:41]>> they I think they tried to put a band-aid with the third movie with The Rise of Skywalker. They It's like they were very aware of what people didn't like about her. Like, oh, she was a nobody, we'll make her a Palpatine, that'll help that. Oh, she never failed or anything, so we'll have her give up on the Jedi and have to go running to Luke for answers. So, they tried to do it, but it was just too late at that point.

[00:07:00]>> whole movie was was sad triage. Yeah, it was a it was an attempt to save a character.

[00:07:06]>> So then you bring in somebody else to say, "Hey, we're going to have you write another Rey movie 15 years after. We're going to give you some time. Um fix her." Well, how do you do that? When they tried to fix her in the third movie and she still just couldn't be fixed from the damage that happened in the second movie.

[00:07:24]So I think, yeah, it is a really hard thing for writers to handle this. I don't know And I know you've said it a hundred times, I don't know if this movie's ever going to happen.

[00:07:32]>> is. Because the writers have almost an impossible job of trying to take a character that people are not People don't want to like >> to see her again. They They want to you to try to fix her. They don't want to like her anymore. They're done with her.

[00:07:44]That's that's the big issue like I said before. It's not a matter of like people are going to be hesitant to like her.

[00:07:50]They don't want to like her. They want to be done with her. They want her retconned and removed and you can you might be a Rey fan and that's fine. You can love the character but the fact of the matter is a lot of fans out there just don't like this character at all.

[00:08:03]Right. I've said it unabashedly. I really enjoyed Rey in the first movie.

[00:08:07]>> yeah. And then I got really upset with how they treated her in the second movie and that they just could not fix things for me by the third movie. It was too late. So I can understand why Damon Lindelof is like it it's a hard movie and whatever he wrote up to try and fix things Lucasfilm looked at and said, "Mhm, it's not going to work." They were more interested in trying to do the Ben Solo movie. That's like I mean they took the whole pitch to Disney and I think they thought that character was more salvageable. I think it was more salvageable, honestly.

[00:08:33]>> is more salvageable, yes, honestly.

[00:08:36]So is Ahsoka the new center of the Star Wars universe? I hope not because I want to see it progress to the future, not get stuck in the Mandoverse forever.

[00:08:45]Yes. I mean I want to see some sort of resolution to the Mandoverse before they move on from it. I would I would love like one more season of The Mandalorian because it seems like that's inevitable and then like a movie, maybe even a Disney Plus movie, some sort of like here's Thrawn, here's your old characters, Han, Luke, Leia and some of the new ones taking on Thrawn and and just end it already and then move on to something completely new. Okay.

[00:09:08]I mean I'm I'm there for that. But they do have to move beyond at some point or go before like they had talked about.

[00:09:15]Yeah, I mean unless you really want to embrace those old characters and try that because I've suggested that's a possibility that might work with yeah, use the Han, Lukes and Leias if you recast them and try to do a whole new Thrawn trilogy with them or something along those lines. I think that could potentially work. I don't know.

[00:09:30]Potentially, yes. But one way or another Ahsoka should not be the center and that's not out of like a hatred of the character. I still like the character, even though she might be a little overused. I still like her. I still want to see some kind of, again, resolution to her story as well. I just don't think she should be the center point of Star Wars. No.

[00:09:46]That's going to be Grogu.

[00:09:48]It might be. Who knows where he's headed in the future. It might be. You never know. We might um ride that train as far as we can till the wheels come off, essentially.

[00:09:56]>> The Grogu and the Mandalorian and Grogu.

[00:09:58]Yeah. Grogu and Grogu and Grogu. I can't even say it. The Mandalorian and Grogu.

[00:10:03]>> going on adventures together. Cuz they're going to live for a long time and >> keep telling Star Wars stories. Oh, jeez.

[00:10:10]Anyway, I think that's going to be all we got for you this time. Your turn. Dig in the comments below. Is the Rey movie ever going to happen? Is it an impossible task to even make? Is that why it is probably not going to happen?

[00:10:20]Whatever you think, leave your comments below. Let's talk some Star Wars. And until next time, thanks for watching.