Citizens have the constitutional right to refuse to provide identification to police officers during consensual encounters on public sidewalks, as police cannot compel ID without first lawfully detaining or arresting an individual for a crime; this right is protected under the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.
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Are you just filming?
>> Mhm.
>> Okay.
>> Do you mind if I get your information so I can that I spoke to you, then all you're doing is stay on the sidewalk filming?
>> Can I get your driver's license?
>> No.
>> Um, okay. I said if I can get some ID so I can verify for who you two are.
>> I'm I'm getting nervous though, sir.
>> You work with me, I work with you.
>> Well, Milton's getting puffed up, sir.
>> Okay. All right. I still need some ID, though.
>> But we're not we're not supposed to do that, sir.
>> I need it. Hey guys, welcome back to the channel. I'm your host Peeps and today we have cops walking away in shame after some master level ID refusals. And oh, there's a very satisfying walk of shame at the end of the video. If you're new to the channel, consider subscribing, leave a comment, and a like to help this video spread for others to enjoy. Now, let's get into the video.
Is there something you're working on right here?
>> What are you working on?
>> Well, what are you working on?
Tell me what you're working on in there.
>> I'm sorry. What?
>> Tell me what you're working on. What are you working on?
>> I'm working a bank. But what are you doing? What specifically are you working on?
>> I don't think it's you're concerned on what we >> Ah, now you've got the answer to what I'm doing. You see how that works?
>> I know, but you're making everybody feel very uncomfortable because we don't want to be on camera. We weren't asked. We didn't sign anything. I doing Oh, >> you got all these windows.
>> Put curtains in your windows.
>> You're good, sir. You do what you got to do now.
>> I'm doing it.
What are you doing?
>> Well, we'll see what time it is. I I'm sure they'll call the popo.
Every single monitor is facing the road and they're worried about me standing out here with a camera.
Maybe I'll tell them they shouldn't face their monitors towards the road and worry about people walking by with a camera.
educations. That's what we're doing, guys and gals. We need to educate these people to mind their own business.
Two, educating the bank.
First Amendment stress test, guys and gals. We teach the banks. We check the police and make sure everyone's in check and stress free.
How you doing, sir?
So they called us. They were just concerned cuz you have I mean all this set up in front of the the building.
>> Are you just filming?
>> Mhm.
>> Okay. Do you mind if I get your information so I can that I spoke to you? Then all you're doing is stay on the sidewalk filming.
>> Good citizen. You'll do good for your report. Just call me good citizen.
>> Okay. You don't want to give me your name?
>> Not at all.
>> Okay.
>> Can I get your driver's license?
>> No.
>> See how it goes.
>> That's different. I'm law enforcement.
You're not.
>> I have no reason to give it to you. You have no reason to give it to me.
>> I know. That's why I'm asking you.
>> Well, that's why I denied it.
>> That's I've never said anything. You're allowed to.
>> All right. We're all good then. You educate the bank.
>> Do what?
>> Did you educate the bank people that a person can walk down the road with his camera without?
>> Yeah. I told them you're allowed to film.
>> They should turn their monitors away from the road if they're worried about that.
>> It's not very bright.
>> They're yelling at me cuz I'm looking at a monitor facing the road.
>> I told them you're allowed to be here.
I'm glad you did. I I got in with you.
>> I just don't like cops coming up and saying, "Give me your ID." Or, "Can I see your ID?" Why is it like a crack for you guys to see an ID?
>> It's going like crack on you.
>> All it is ask for your >> like a drug. You got to have it. I got to have your ID. You got to have your ID.
>> Did I say that?
>> You're dismissed.
>> I I'm allowed to stand here, too.
>> Oh, good. We'll we'll stay here all day.
We'll show content, I gather.
>> No, you're you're good. So, you're doing this for your own personal benefit?
done talking. All right. Well, as long as you don't go.
>> It's no longer consensual. You got that.
Okay.
>> We're no longer having a consensual conversation.
>> Then you can leave.
>> You I can stay.
>> You can? Yeah. So can I.
>> You can stay.
>> Yeah.
>> Stay all day.
>> All right. Well, as long as you don't go on the property, you're good to go. All right.
>> You had to say that like I've been there. Like I would You don't know what I'm doing, do you?
>> That's why I'm talking to you.
>> You should have figured it out right now. want to educate us. So we how do we >> Yeah, >> you've already done a good job. You guys did your job. I appreciate you doing a good job. Other than asking for that ID that you guys are all on crack about.
>> Hey, I got an ID. I got >> I like to know who I'm talking to. It's just part of our training. But you know, >> it's training.
>> So you know who I'm talking to.
>> I didn't see your driver's license.
>> No, my name's Anthony. What's your last name?
I know who I'm talking to. There's nothing to do.
>> You're not going to know who you're talking to.
>> That's fine.
>> So, you just have to get over it and move on with your life and do whatever you're doing.
>> Very much over. You're the one going on about it.
>> You're not leaving. So, I'm chatting with you like a good citizen chats with the police officer.
>> Just like any good consensual encounter.
>> Yeah.
>> Wasting taxpayers money standing around.
>> You are correct. Yes. 100%.
>> Thank you.
>> All right. Well, if you need anything, you give us a call. Okay.
>> What's your bad number there?
>> 5603.
>> Bad number.
>> Huh? He's Hansen 5603.
>> Yeah. Dial 6901.
>> 6901.
>> All right.
>> Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.
>> See how easy that is?
>> Well, I know what the difference is. You work for me. You have to tell me your name.
>> Oh, I know.
>> It's in your policy.
>> This is my badge number.
>> It's in your policy to say your name.
>> Well, I'll head down to police station.
We'll check you on that.
Give me a ride down.
Police encounters it never stops.
>> ID hungry cops will say and do anything to obtain your ID. It's like crack to them. They have to have it. In the following clips, we'll see everyday citizens exercising their right to keep their identity private. No crime, no ID.
Let's watch.
>> Hi.
>> Oh, good morning, sir.
>> What's going on?
>> Oh, we're just investigating.
>> Investigating what?
>> We're looking for Miss Ming.
>> Miss who? Miss Ming.
>> Miss Ming.
>> Yeah, Ming.
>> Okay. I'm not >> uh She's a Chinese.
>> Okay.
>> So, we're trying to find out. We did get word she's at this bank.
>> Okay.
>> She's banking here.
>> We need to verify verify the information.
>> Not okay.
>> That's Milton.
>> Okay.
>> That's my buddy Milton.
>> Well, I'm Officer Brooke with Mount City Police Department.
>> Oh, good morning.
>> Afternoon.
>> They call me Billy. Okay, Billy.
>> Well, it's five o'clock somewhere is what they tell me.
>> It's almost 4 o'clock now. I was right.
>> Okay. And Miss Ming, do you have first name or anything?
>> Yeah, the the first name is Ming.
>> Okay. What's her last name?
>> Ling. Uh with the L instead of an M.
>> Are you sure it's Mount City, Missouri?
>> I was told so, sir.
>> Okay. Cuz there's like >> Is there another one?
>> Oh, lordy.
>> Really? There's like four or five mountain cities.
>> I don't like that, though. Yeah, cuz there's Mountain City, Kansas, South Dakota. Uh I want to say there's a Mountain City, Illinois. So there's several mound cities and I don't recognize that name.
I've been here for over 20 years and I know pretty much most most people in town.
>> So you would know if there's a a missing Chinese women's probably like in this location.
>> I would hope so. Somebody would report it by now, especially to the police department.
>> Okay. Um, do you think you could get us access inside >> to >> so we can investigate >> through the bank?
>> Yeah.
>> Did you go in? Did you go in?
>> No, we just wanted to.
>> Okay.
>> We were just doing a perimeter check to see if Miss Mingling is potentially outside.
>> I got a call because they said there were two men walking around with cameras and binoculars and everything.
>> Well, guilty is charged. That was me.
I'm not I won't lie to you. That was me, >> right? That was kind of obvious when I pulled up. Yeah, you just have to investigate. That's how you get the facts cuz Frank sent us out here to do this investigation.
>> Frank who?
>> Frank P. P. like pneumonia. The letter P.
>> Okay. You don't have a full last name.
>> Um I don't know what his full last name was. He says not to tell nobody.
>> Well, that's kind of odd. If you're looking for a missing person and he tells you not to tell anybody.
>> Well, he sends us on mission. So, we >> we're just trying to get the facts and Right.
>> Well, I'm just trying to find Miss Mingling, sir.
>> Okay. Let's Let's do this first. If I can get IDs from both of you so I can verify who you are.
>> Oh, he Frank told us not to, sir.
>> Well, I have to. Um I'm sorry. That's part of our protocol.
>> I don't know if I even have my ID, sir.
I >> I got to go to the bathroom. I'll be back.
>> Okay, Milton.
>> He just needs to tinkle probably.
>> I I understand it, but where you going to go?
>> I don't know.
>> Cuz the closest bathroom would the toilet probably. There's some I think there's some >> My neck and my bladder got hurt cuz when I went to Mexico I didn't know the wrestling was real.
>> That's all right.
>> It's not like here.
>> It's real.
>> Yeah, that's cuz they wear masks.
>> But it's real.
>> It's real.
>> No, I know.
>> Um Okay. You think we should go?
>> I said if I can get some ID so I can verify for who you two are.
>> I'm I'm getting nervous though, sir.
>> Well, I understand it work with >> Yep. with you guys. How's that? You work with me, I work with you. It's just >> so we work together is what you're saying.
>> Do you think we could become police in this town to patrol?
>> Not really. You have to go through a lot of schooling for that.
>> Yeah, but I could I could do that. I thought it was 6 weeks. We could do that. No problem.
>> Like 6 months.
>> Wow. That's a lot of That's a lot of time.
>> Yeah. A lot more to it.
>> Time and temperature check. It was probably You say 400 p.m. and 72° F.
So, that's a good day. It's a good day to be outside is all I'm saying. Is that another police?
>> Yep. That's one of the deputy sheriffs.
>> Deputy Probably Deputy Douglas. I've met him before.
>> Nope. We don't have a deputy Douglas here.
>> Well, Milton's getting puffed up, sir.
>> Okay. All right. I still need some ID, though.
>> But we're not we're not supposed to do that, sir.
>> I need it.
>> In the state of Missouri, if I ask for it, you need Frank says that that's BS.
>> That's not BS. Frank says we got to we got to be naughty and commit crimes though first sir.
>> So >> we just can't be saying our names.
>> Well, you already told me your names.
>> Yeah, I know. We just can't say no more though.
>> Okay. But I need >> He said my jaw is going to get busted.
>> Identify yourself.
>> Especially if you're doing investigation. You have to >> Yeah, but I'm the lead investigator.
>> So means you have to identify yourself.
>> Especially if law enforcement comes up, you have to identify.
>> Yeah, but we want to be boys and blue, too. So, we want to we just want to become >> you got to like I said, you got to go through all the training and stuff.
>> Yeah, but we could we'll get a waiver.
It's you only need a waiver to get around certain things.
>> You got to go through all the training.
You have to get certified and all that and then hired on to a department. So, but let's go back to IDs. I need >> Do you have to in training do you have to learn about Constitution?
>> Yeah.
>> So, like fourth amendment.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. You you haven't been to that yet.
>> Oh, yeah. Milton's. You puffed him up, sir. That's >> cuz they said in order to give ID, we have to commit.
>> Frank says that >> that's not entirely true.
>> Well, Frank was the one that told us this, sir.
>> And do you think that he is actually going to tell you the truth then about IDs?
>> Yes.
>> No.
>> No.
>> Because >> So Frank's a liar.
>> Yes. So, let me let me explain to you.
And I'm sure that the officer has two.
Okay.
>> Okay.
>> But in Missouri, when you're talking to an officer and if that officer requests your ID, by law, you have to give it to him. Okay.
>> Frank says that's BS, sir. He says it's true.
>> He says we have fourth amendment rights here, sir.
>> Right.
>> And he says you can't you can't just stop or stop us.
>> We're not going to stop or stop you because >> Oh, we committed a crime then? I was unaware. I didn't know.
>> You're here for we're here for an investigation.
>> Yeah, but we're the investigators, sir.
>> Okay. You're investigators for something else. Okay.
>> Yes.
>> We're here investigating you guys.
>> So, you're investigating the investigators?
>> Yes.
>> Why are we doing this?
>> Because >> Yeah, but I'm the lead investigator in this >> suspicious person and looking into the bank for whatever reason.
>> No, I'm not suspicious. They call me Billy.
>> So, would you like to either give me your driver's license or some form of ID or would you like to go to the sheriff's office and get fingerprinted? Um, I'm wearing my speed boots on today, sir.
>> Okay, >> here's the deal. Okay, >> but sir, >> see, >> you got to pull us over legally. Yeah.
Or you got to suspect us of a crime.
>> This is going to be the easy way.
>> That's what Frank says.
>> Don't say that, please. Sir, you'll puff them up.
>> You come here.
>> You need to provide ID or >> we have to provide ID without committing a crime.
>> Absolutely. Cuz we were called here.
>> Oh, so we don't have fourth amendment here.
>> Does that mean you got to identify everybody on the sidewalk? No. So, how come our Fourth Amendment's getting >> your Fourth Amendment?
>> Because we're supposed to be secured in our persons and papers, which would be our ID, and we haven't committed a crime or got pulled over legally and lawfully.
>> Walking on the sidewalk taking pictures, not a crime.
>> We're investigators, sir. Just let us investigate. Please >> save yourselves. Save yourselves.
Qualified immunity right now.
>> You've already puffed Milton up and you shouldn't do that.
>> Yeah, I'm not worried about Milton. Not.
>> No, that's the problem. Milton guy.
>> Yeah.
>> That's Milton, >> sir. Look at him anymore.
>> You're puffing him up. We cannot be doing this. Okay.
>> You just tick Milton off.
>> I would not have done that if I was you.
>> I can't deal with him when he gets puffed up like that. It affects his health. He's like a puffer fish. And it's not Yeah, he actually did get his and he didn't get sunburned and you did that to him, sir. That was not acceptable.
I mean, if you articulate a crime that we committed or if you lawfully pulled us over, yeah, sure. I'll give ID, >> but you haven't done neither. And I'm the investigator around here and you're interfering with my investigation, sir.
>> You guys on any kind of medication or anything?
>> You're trying to You're trying to throw us in a looney bin.
>> That is propaganda.
>> That's what he wants to do.
>> You son of a gun. You think you're >> medications? Have you taken any kind of drugs?
>> Well, I'm smelling some alcohol from your breath. Have you been driving drunk, sir?
>> Do my eyes look >> Let me see your pockets.
>> Let me hold your pocket.
>> Do my eyes look glassy?
>> Yeah, look at his eyes.
>> They're glassy.
>> They are. That's cuz you have goggles on, built.
>> Frank's going to be coming any minute.
>> Any minute. He shouldn't be dropping in.
>> You're going to get pissed off. You're not identifying him. You don't know who he is.
>> How long are you going to illegally detain us for?
>> Yeah.
>> You've already uh interfered with our investigation. Hey, you calm down. You look here. Look. Listen, pal. I'm in charge here. This is my investigation.
I'm in charge here.
>> Trying to listen.
>> No, I don't stop. I'm the best.
>> What you are?
>> Hey, you calm down. My hand motions are way cooler and better than yours.
>> How about if we go to >> How about this?
>> We're going to go to our head.
>> We're in charge here, pal.
>> You guys go get in your vehicle.
>> Nope. Not doing it. Nope.
>> Go away. Exercising. My right.
>> You got to get on your knees and do a handstand afterwards.
>> Anyway, let me finish. Go ahead. I'll finish first. I'm the best. awkward.
>> Hey, Milton, do you want to hear officer have to say?
>> No, >> I do. Okay.
>> I'm deaf.
>> Go ahead.
>> Think you can get Billy to be quiet for 5 minutes?
>> Fine. I'll be quiet for 69 seconds.
>> 5 minutes.
>> You've already illegally detained me for a half hour or so.
>> Yes.
>> Yes, we have it on record.
>> That's illegal. You can't do that.
>> We got a thumbnail, sir. Go ahead.
>> Yep.
>> Okay.
>> I think you need to get your facts straight. I'm the best in business. I know the facts.
>> Why are you guys looking at each other?
That looks sensual.
>> Yes. Again, let him talk, please.
>> Well, you did say please. So, I'll let it I'll let it I'll give you 69 seconds.
Let's go.
>> Keep going.
>> Look, that's a state trooper. Look at his hat. He's a He's a drill sergeant.
>> He's a drill sergeant.
>> He's a game warden.
>> Game warden.
>> Not a game warden. Not Missouri patrol.
How are you guys?
>> Good to see you, sir. Milton then Milton. No, no, no, no, no. Let's start over. Let's Can we shake hands? Not my hand. Fist. Start over. You fisted.
>> We don't need to. Yeah.
>> Yeah. These guys are These guys are being dumb >> and they're trying to stop stop us without a crime, saying we have to ID for filming in public. And I said, "Hey, you guys are dumb. We don't have to do that. You got to learn the basics of law." And they were like, "Yeah, we know the law." And then they use Google to pull it up. Then they're like, "Oh, see, you got to have these criteria of getting lawfully pulled over or committed a crime before you can even ask for ID." And we said, "Yeah, you guys are dumb." And they're like, "No, you it doesn't matter. You're suspicious." And we're like, "Suspicious isn't a crime, you dumb nerd." And they said, "Oh, well, we're dumb nerds, but I don't care." And they said said, "We're going to throw you in a cage."
>> In a cage. And they said they were going to >> They're going to fingerprint us. They're going to pull our pants down and do the strip search.
>> He was going to >> They're trying to be disgusting with us.
And we said, "No, no, don't do that today."
>> And then he was going to tell Frank.
>> Yeah. He's going to snitch on us to Frank. And we said, "Hey, you guys are dumb. Don't do that.
>> You need to go back to Frank and make sure Frank has proper information."
Right now, I don't think he does.
>> Well, let's be real here.
>> Wrong city and state.
>> You're a horrible investigator. So, let's leave the investigating suck at it.
>> You go watch some constitutional videos.
>> Yeah, you guys are dumb. I don't want you to lose your pension, sir.
>> The walk of nerd. You know, a lot of states are >> this is a lost cause. They don't want to listen.
>> Oh, I thought we were going to the station >> like they think we said they were. So, >> I thought we were going downtown >> or uptown. Which is it?
>> Let's go look for this person.
>> You guys are dumb. This is our investigation.
I'm not going to be quiet. I have a right to speak in this country.
>> You don't want to get on the bad side of law enforcement.
>> Oh my gosh. Okay.
>> I don't want to get tased. You need to listen to the authority. You need to comply. All right. I've been trying to get this >> one hour illegal detainment. Are we still detained?
>> That's suspicious. Three Three guys lean on that sign and it looks like a dope ring.
>> Yep.
>> Well, gentlemen, have a good day. All right.
>> All right.
>> Have a good day. I knew it was coming.
>> Yeah. You better do the walk of nerd, young man. You better do the walk of nerd.
>> Yep.
>> The walk of nerd, ladies and gentlemen.
The walk of nerd. Get the hell out of here. You puffed Milton up. You just puffed him up. Should have been doing that, sir.
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