DNA testing provides scientific evidence to resolve paternity disputes, as demonstrated in this courtroom case where a man who questioned whether he could be a father due to his history of addiction and financial instability was conclusively proven to be the biological father of his 3-year-old son through DNA results.
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A man who had no job, no car, no ID, was living off his girlfriend's money, and still had the audacity to question if her son was his. What happens next in this courtroom will leave you speechless. Stay till the end because the DNA results change everything.
Again, your honor, this is case 2125 Ryder versus Persia. Thank you so much, Patrick. Mr. Ryder, you have brought your significant other seeking a paternity test. You all are both Leos and you're ready to roar one way or the other, am I right?
>> Yes, ma'am. Okay.
>> [applause] >> Can you tell me how you two met?
On a dating site, ma'am. Okay.
Tell me about that.
Well, after the first night it wasn't too good. You all went on a date?
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Okay.
I ended up calling back a few times, we met for another date, it worked out good.
Uh kept talking on the phone for a while.
Ended up moving together, moving in together. I was staying in a hotel. She had somebody staying with her at the time, so after he moved out, I moved in.
Uh about how long between meeting on the dating site and moving in with her?
About how long was that? Wait, let that sink in. This man had no house, no car, moved into a woman's home within 2 weeks of meeting her online, and now he's questioning her loyalty. Bro came for convenience and stayed for drama. If you think this is wild, wait till you hear about the money situation. It gets worse.
long was that?
Uh about 2 weeks. Oh, okay.
So, so tell us why you're here.
To get the DNA results, to find out if Michael is my son. Over the last year, our relationship been real sketchy and I I need to know the truth. Now, you all met on a dating site.
Did you all correspond online before you met in person? Yes. Okay. Everything seemed to go okay? Yes, sir. All right, but then that first date, not so much.
>> Not so much. Okay. I'm I'm tempted I'm going you what went wrong, but I'm scared. So, I'm not.
Don't ask. Don't ask. Go ahead. Go ahead. Ask him, please. Cuz he got kicked out. Oh.
>> Well, let me ask you, Ms. Perdue, what went wrong on the first date?
He wouldn't light me up a cigarette, and he was in the passenger seat.
Are you serious? You're going to just let me drive around? We hanging out, and you can't do nothing? You can't even go into the store and buy me a drink?
Oh. So, what was the You can't even get out the car and do something?
Okay.
>> So, what was the first date supposed to be? Were you going to Oh, we were just going to hang out. We were just going to hang out. I have no expectations from a fool that smell like dirty laundry.
Okay.
>> Okay. So, did you >> So, that's why I dropped him off, to be honest. Like, I really didn't like the way he smelled.
So, I was like, you know what? Let me drop him off. He can't even do nothing.
Well, wait. Hold on. So, you went to pick him up? Uh-huh. That was the first time you'd seen each other in person, right? Mhm. Okay. He gets in the car, and what happened? Just do something.
That's the first thought that was in my mind. Period.
So, any anything that I asked him to do, and it was a no, okay, bye.
Like, so you can't You can't do nothing.
>> and not do stuff, too. Okay.
>> Right. You can't do nothing. You can't even do your own laundry?
Are you serious? Okay. So, he he and you dropped him off back off at where where he lives.
>> Mhm. Not at my house. No, no, no. And so, then he starts to call you.
And you still took his calls?
Mhm.
It was like, okay. All right. Whatever.
You know, like, trying to like, you know, just entertain the situation, cuz I didn't know what his intent was. Okay.
So, at some point, apparently, you he reached out, and you're like, fine.
We'll go on another date. Right. And was that date better? It was. Okay.
>> It was. So it was he made a big change.
>> Mhm. Yes.
>> Okay. All right. And so he said within 2 weeks you all had moved in together.
Oh, this is was this is about a month ish. About 2 weeks month. Okay.
>> Like in between there. Okay. It wasn't a very long time. Okay. Mr. Rater, so the relationship is going were there any kind of red flags or something that this relationship might not go the distance?
Not really. At first to be honest with you I moved in cuz it was convenient for me. You know what I'm saying? Right.
>> I was staying in a hotel. She had her own place. I had some money to offer.
She took me up on the money.
You know.
Okay.
>> I'm going to take nothing from you. Not not long after that she she we went to the hospital cuz she wasn't feeling good. They came back told us she was pregnant.
I kind of felt like it was too soon for all that especially she had another dude staying at the house right before I got there. How how long before you got there? Like within days? I mean his stuff was still in the house so I really don't know how long it was. Okay. So you say after a couple months of you all living together she was expecting? We was living together for after about 2 months we went to the hospital cuz she wasn't feeling good. She was throwing up and stuff. Okay. So she went to go find out what was going wrong with her. Doctor came back said she was pregnant. Okay.
Did he say how far along she was at that point? 5 weeks.
Okay. All right.
So you had some questions from the outset because you felt like it's kind of close to the time switching was going on.
>> Also I didn't think I could get nobody pregnant.
What? I I didn't think I was able to get anybody pregnant. Because? Because I've been with females [snorts] in the past and I didn't use no protection. I wasn't trying to prevent it. And I I was trying a few times. I never had no luck. So I just thought I I wasn't capable. So that's a lot to go on. I mean as soon as you move in basically. Yes, sir.
>> Um in terms of your relationship, and we'll come back to that cuz I'm I'm very interested in that, but Okay. in terms of your relationship, why were you staying at a hotel? I moved areas. I found different employment, so >> Okay.
Did your relationship did it have a rocky [snorts] kind of financial start?
Not really. She was getting unemployment, stimulus checks came out.
She was doing fine. He was riding off of me. She was taking care of me, I He was riding off of me. Okay.
>> you it was convenience. So >> Did you have a car at that point?
>> No.
>> So you didn't have a a license. He didn't even have an ID.
I took care of that for him.
Okay. Okay. And then he the one saying that Michael's not his son? Yes. Okay.
Apparently. That's okay. Yeah, apparently. Okay. Okay, be a parent apparently.
Coming up. I had multiple partners before him and I didn't use protection, so I thought I couldn't get pregnant.
What are the chances of that, Mr. Cole?
>> [laughter] >> He didn't even have an ID.
I took care of that for him.
Okay. Okay. And then he the one saying that Michael's not his son? Yes. Okay.
Apparently. That's okay. Yeah, apparently. Okay.
>> Okay, be a parent apparently.
So you stated that you didn't think you could get someone pregnant.
>> Yes ma'am. That was not something that had been told to you medically. No doctor had told you that.
>> assumption. It Okay, and that was because you had not used protection in the past and never gotten anyone pregnant as far as you know. Yes.
So were you surprised that you were expecting Ms. Porsha? Oh my goodness.
I was about to go to the psych ward. You what? I was about to go to the psych ward. I thought I was crazy hearing stuff from the doctors. Like they were saying stuff was unusual that you would if you he wasn't using protection, why you think that's a possibility?
>> 28 in the same situation as him. I had multiple partners before him and I didn't use protection, so I thought I couldn't get pregnant. What are the chances of that, Mr. Conrad? [laughter] >> [cheering] >> Babe, >> obviously we have a son, so the chances are 100.
>> Yeah, so you were surprised and you were surprised >> for oddly the same reason.
All right, so Well, I mean, we are both liars. You all find out that she's pregnant, then what? From the realization that I'm going to be a father, so I I started to tighten up a little bit.
>> Okay, what does that look like?
What does that look like? I was on drugs.
Um, I started using less drugs.
Wait.
Hey.
So, yeah, more and more and more.
>> Well, you know, the the journey of a thousand miles starts with one step, so So, using less drugs, okay, that's a step in the right direction. All right, what else? That's really it, to be honest with you.
>> [applause] >> So, were you working at this point? No, sir. Okay, so you're about to have a kid on the way. Did you go out and and try to find a job?
>> No, sir. Well, she paid and a pregnant No, sir. Okay.
So, are you independently wealthy? No.
Okay.
So, how are you going to support this kid? Were you having Were you having money problems? I mean, what's >> I got >> Honestly, I at the time I didn't it. I mine, so I wasn't Cuz I got it.
>> It wasn't not a a priority to me at the time. He had to ask me for money to buy cigarettes. Get out of here. Okay, so you were holding it down on the financial front.
>> always 110% Okay. Okay, so what were you doing? What do you mean what was I doing? I was I was having an an What were you doing for work? What were you doing for work?
>> on unemployment. I'm I'm at a loss for lack of a better description because you aren't working and you're on unemployment. Who's paying the rent?
Who's paying the utilities? Who's paying the car note? Who's How you >> I got I got a lot >> I got a lot Are you on unemployment?
>> Yes. Okay. Well, damn. We doing this all wrong.
>> No, y'all y'all ain't doing it right.
>> [applause] >> Do it right.
I I have made some errors in judgment here.
>> I'm the one paying the car payment right now. So, right now currently? Okay, so you're working now?
>> I pay all the bills. So, when you say now, for how long how long we talking?
Last About 6 months.
>> Last 6 months.
>> Okay. 6 months out of 4 years?
Okay.
>> [applause] >> Now, you've been together for 4 years.
>> Yes, sir. All right. So, the first 3 and 1/2 years We We was living in Florida. That was a bad influence. That's where I was from.
I was on drugs. Couldn't move out every every every neighborhood I moved out to went to the neighborhood got back in the same thing selling drugs doing drugs.
We ended up moving here to get a fresh start. Ever since we moved up here I've been doing good. I'm off drugs. Okay.
>> [applause] >> So, I mean you've kind of alluded to this issue of you didn't think it was your child because it was so close in time to the prior boyfriend. Are there any other reasons or any other people that make you say I don't think this kid is mine? Uh my mother said he don't look like me. So, my my mom said he wasn't mine.
>> He's a mama's boy. Are you Are you a mama's boy?
>> Yes, ma'am. Okay, well.
I I the the candor, Mr. Raider, is so refreshing.
>> you ain't got no father in your life, you kind of tend to be a mama's boy, you know what I mean?
>> Okay. Your mother says the baby doesn't look like you.
>> Yes, sir. Uh, do you think the baby looks like you?
Little bit.
Besides the prior boyfriend being so close in time to the breakup and Ms. Perger getting pregnant, are there any other reasons that you think that Michael is not your son?
Well, for the last year she's been going out at night and not answering her phone. She won't come back till the next morning, so. Does she say she's going to the store?
>> She won't tell me nothing. There's been times I come out the bathroom she ain't even know where to be found. My son in the in the room all by himself. I'm looking in the house for her she her she's gone. Her car not there. I call to see what's going on, she won't answer the phone. Next morning she shows up like everything's all good, like nothing even happened.
Up next. And I need an apology after that, too. When I ain't show you the DNA results, yeah, I need an apology ASAP. They don't even need to finish [music] their sentence, by the way.
Are there any other reasons that you think that Michael is not your son?
Well, for the last year she's been going out at night and not answering her phone. She won't come back till the next morning, [music] so.
So, do you go MIA? Uh, yes, absolutely I do.
>> Okay.
>> Absolutely.
You know why?
>> Okay, are you going to be with other men? I need time to myself. Okay.
>> what this man has done put me through.
Why why you want to ride my butt about a job that I don't even have? Oh, you ain't working, you ain't doing us, but guess what? All the bills are in my name, and are we behind?
No. Do you hear me hitting you up, "Hey, we late on this. Hey, we late on that every other day? No.
Because >> handle it. And whatever money you give me is straight.
Like, that's for the bills.
Okay.
>> So, why do you have to If everything's taken care of and you're not worried, why do you have to go and just >> He literally left me and his biological son, which I have no doubt in my mind that's that's going to be positive, Arian.
And I need an apology after that, too.
When I show you the DNA results, yeah, I need an apology ASAP. They don't even need to finish their sentence, by the way.
Okay, so anyway >> to say it this way. He done left for like a month and a half, 2 months, 3 months down in Florida for multiple times. So, are you Why are you still haven't answered the >> Cuz I have animosity towards him. Okay.
>> Animosity. And I'm not going to bring that out in front of my son. Okay.
>> I'm not going to fight. I'm not going to throw hands. I ain't going to catch a case.
>> You So, I'm going to leave.
>> Okay. And when you When you leave, where do you go? What you mean, where do I go?
I go on my own time. She said she said she >> on, hold on, hold on. No. Where is a place? So, I'm not asking you whether it's your own time or not. When you leave on these instances >> house? Okay, are you going to visit a friend? Are you going to >> a friend, a a an acquaintance? Who cares where I'm at?
>> Well, I care because I'm asking the question. And the reason I care is because he said you go MIA, you go missing, and then you turn up the next morning. So, I'm just asking where you going.
>> correct.
>> Are you going to visit >> I go to a house.
>> A friend's house? Cheating. Cheating.
Hurting. This is calls stays out till else. But because she he put her through this one. It's two wounded people. That is part of three-year-old little This is why he friend's house?
An acquaintance.
>> Okay. Is there a reason you don't tell him where you are? Yes, of course there is. Because he done did it to me so many times. You want to feel that hurt? You want to feel that pain?
To not know where your significant other is. There you go. There you have it. So, your reason for leaving and then staying away for at least overnight and not telling him is to hurt him.
>> Won't you feel some type of way if you're left? You do You're doing it to hurt him? I mean, come on now. Yeah.
Okay.
>> Okay. That's not towards my son. Of course not. He came out of my body. He didn't.
Okay.
Well, and is that one of the reasons Mr. Rader you questioned the paternity of Michael? Yes, ma'am. Okay.
I think we have all that we need. Do you think we have everything? I do have some concerns.
Um Go ahead. Tell us one, honey. You talk about him leaving and disappearing. Do you think he's ready to be a dad?
He's a better parent than I am.
So, he is ready.
He just needs to acknowledge it and step at the uh period.
All right.
I think we are ready to find out the paternity of Michael Rader.
Mr. Rader, the DNA results conclusively prove that you Mr. Rader, the DNA results conclusively prove that you Now the real work begins. Comment complete if this got you emotional and follow for more real stories like this we post every week.
DNA results conclusively prove that you Mr. Raider DNA results conclusively prove that you are the father.
>> [applause] >> I'm sorry, baby.
Huh?
>> I said I'm sorry. Huh? I said I'm sorry.
You heard me.
>> said?
Mr. Raider, how does it make you feel?
Complete. Complete? Yeah. So all these years you didn't think you could even be a father and here we are. Yes, sir.
So this should be good news for you. Oh, yeah. It should be comforting [clears throat] news to your mother that she's got a beautiful grandson. He's a He's a cutie pie. Hopefully you two can figure out whatever this is y'all got going.
But the main thing is for you all to effectively co-parent. And I Ms. Persia, I think it's very uh candid of you to say, "Look, Mr. Raider really is a better parent. I love my son, but he's the better parent." And Mr. Raider, that's a rare acknowledgement. So clearly you need to play a pivotal role in Michael's development in his life because his mother is saying you are that person.
And and uh Ms. Persia, that's commendable of you.
Um we have a counselor who can give you some pointers to broaden and deepen your parenting skills because mama's are important. I am I'm to order you to visit with our counselor, get some pick up some tips and be the best mom that you can be.
All right. Well, we now know that Michael is your son. Congratulations.
That is the determination of this court and court is adjourned. Thank you. And I told you.
>> [applause] >> I felt that I got dragged >> [music] >> through this process. I'm happy that he is my son. I'm happy with the test results and I can move forward knowing that he's my son. So, you're still going to give me a hard time about the bills, though? If I don't get no appreciation, yeah. What is appreciation, though?
>> I told you. What? Cook me some down food and wash my clothes. That's it.
>> I do wash your clothes. All right. Every time I ask you to wash your clothes, you like, [music] "Uh, they're not ready. I'll leave them right there." And they're all astrewed.
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