WORST one ever caught by 561PC

Added: 2026-05-12

[00:00:06]Disclaimer. Please be aware that the following video may contain disturbing or inappropriate content and language that may not be suitable for all audiences, including children. The purpose of this video is to educate and inform parents and communities about the potential dangers that children may face online, and to provide insight on those who may cause these dangers. It's important to note that the individuals depicted in this video are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law and should not be harassed or harmed based on their actions as depicted in this video. Viewer discretion is strongly advised. What's going on everybody? Thanks for tuning in to another video. If you're new here, hit that subscribe button. Also, turn on those notifications so you guys can be aware when we upload new videos. All right, guys. This one was crazy. Uh none of these guys are worse than the others. They're all the same, but uh the messaging in this one was horrific. It literally made my stomach turn. Uh, this catch was decoyed by uh, PCI Eric. He hit me up. He said, "Hey, this is in Pascal County on the other side of Tampa. It's like 5 hours from where I'm at." And I generally, you know, I don't uh, necessarily have the availability to just get up and, you know, drive a 10-hour trip. And, you know, we weren't too sure if we were going to be able to make it. And then he told me like the details of this and how old uh, his decoy was. the person that you know this prred was talking to uh was extremely young. Uh very very young. Uh let's absolutely insane guys. I'm just got to be careful how I say that. Don't want YouTube uh taking this down. But uh yeah, guys, this this one was disgusting. And this guy, he definitely I I'm just going to let you guys check this video out of video. Let me know what you guys think. Any comments, corrective criticism uh on the catch is definitely a hard one for me. So, let me just say that now. Uh, it was hard for me to have a conversation with this guy because he just You're going to see it. This was a tough one. This was the first time I ever handed the mic to Chris and said, "You just talked to him." Uh, put it this way. My blood was boiling. This this was not an easy catch, guys. But check this one out, guys. Chris and I are here at the state park at Warner Boy Springs State Park here in Pascal County on the other side of Tampa. We drove 5 hours.

[00:02:16]Uh, PCI was decoining this. The guy thinks he's meeting someone of the age.

[00:02:21]Uh, he's sitting here by the bathrooms.

[00:02:22]This is sick, guys. Let's go. Let's go have a conversation with him.

[00:02:32]>> K.

[00:02:33]>> Hi.

[00:02:36]>> Yeah. Um, yeah.

[00:02:37]>> Hi.

[00:02:38]>> You coming here to meet?

[00:02:39]>> Yes. I'm here to meet you.

[00:02:40]>> Well, I don't want to shake your hand. I want to have a conversation.

[00:02:42]>> No, I know. I know.

[00:02:44]>> So, listen.

[00:02:46]I don't want to have to get anyone else involved. I just want to make sure you're not a threat to we monitor online activity between and adults.

[00:02:52]>> Do you mind if I vape?

[00:02:53]>> You can vape? Yeah.

[00:02:54]>> Okay.

[00:02:55]>> You have any weapons on you?

[00:02:56]>> No, actually. No. You can search me if you want.

[00:02:59]>> No. I mean, you lift up your You got nothing there?

[00:03:01]>> Nothing. Literally nothing.

[00:03:03]>> You sure? Okay. So, Kane, let's let's have a conversation. What? Yeah.

[00:03:07]>> What's going on, man?

[00:03:08]>> Honestly.

[00:03:09]>> Yeah. Just be honest. That's all we want. Thank you.

[00:03:11]>> Okay. Yeah. I mean, I just have a thing against hunters.

[00:03:17]>> You have a thing against hunters?

[00:03:19]>> Yes.

[00:03:20]>> Okay. So, if you have a thing against them, then why would what does that mean?

[00:03:24]>> Well, it's it's the it's the idea they are they are eliciting people to commit crimes.

[00:03:33]>> Eliciting people. So, >> yes. So you're thinking by saying everything that you said trying accepting to meet. So how old did she say she was?

[00:03:44]>> She said she was >> Oh yeah.

[00:03:47]>> And >> but that's the thing there's a specific group of people who like to >> Okay.

[00:03:55]>> And I I like to do that. So when people go online and say they are of a age, I am not at liberty to believe that because anybody can be anybody online. You know what I mean?

[00:04:11]>> Okay.

[00:04:12]>> You know, >> but when someone tells you they're what is what was the right thing to do?

[00:04:16]Probably.

[00:04:18]>> Probably.

[00:04:18]>> See, that's the really tough question because a lot >> because how old are you?

[00:04:22]>> I'm 26.

[00:04:23]>> Right.

[00:04:23]>> Yes.

[00:04:25]And the person you're supposed to meet is >> see but that's not the that's not actually the goal. The goal to meet somebody who plays the >> right but but this person isn't playing aage. They told you they're and you you liked that. You thought that was exciting. I have the messages from beginning to end.

[00:04:45]>> See, but I know you have the messages.

[00:04:47]>> Okay.

[00:04:47]>> Yeah.

[00:04:47]>> So what does that mean?

[00:04:49]I'm trying to see. I'm trying to confront you people.

[00:04:55]There is a there's a problem with catfishing.

[00:04:58]>> This isn't catfishing. This is someone telling you, "Hey, cuz cuz every day are on on online, listen, are online and they're pretending to to be older so they can get attention from adults." And they meet these people in real life cuz when I catch these people, they tell me I was in the same position. I was on these apps and I got this happened to me, right? So, it happens in real life.

[00:05:23]This is this happens. There's 500,000 active online a day >> in the in the in the country. Of course.

[00:05:30]Yes.

[00:05:30]>> Okay. I understand this was very confusing. I did not come here to try to actually be with a what I wanted to do was try to expose the catfishing industry where people are listing others to commit crimes and you know they wanted to do there's there's sorry there's people out there who want to be who crave to be of the the the age and they they will they will literally go out there and pretend to be little in a sense. Have you ever heard of >> No.

[00:06:13]>> Really?

[00:06:14]>> No.

[00:06:15]>> Really?

[00:06:16]>> Really? I just said no. I don't know.

[00:06:17]>> It It is a It is a very common um Have you ever heard of >> Uh maybe? I don't I'm not too familiar.

[00:06:26]What does that have to do with >> Okay. It's a lifestyle.

[00:06:28]>> Okay.

[00:06:29]>> Yes. Um are you recording this, by the way?

[00:06:32]>> Yeah. So you don't put your hands on me and I don't put your hands on you.

[00:06:34]Listen, we're in the middle of a park and we just want to make sure you are >> Yeah. We just want to make sure. Okay.

[00:06:40]Cuz listen, our goal is not to get you in trouble. Our goal is to make sure you're not a threat to >> Yes.

[00:06:43]>> And our goal is to protect. You know, you were online talking to what somebody told you that they're And these messages are scary.

[00:06:51]>> Oh, I know. They are they are explicit.

[00:06:56]They are >> And listen, >> I understand.

[00:06:59]>> My my goal isn't to get involved. No, I don't want to get no one involved.

[00:07:03]Listen, I I I I know about you. All right.

[00:07:06]>> Yeah, I I know.

[00:07:08]>> I drove I drove I drove 5 hours here.

[00:07:10]>> Oh, that that is wonderful. I have wanted somebody to actually come and see me for a long time.

[00:07:14]>> Why? What is it that you want them to see? What What does that mean?

[00:07:17]>> I I want to >> What does that do for you?

[00:07:21]>> I want to bond with someone, not physically, but emotionally, mentally. I want to get to know someone and grow old with them. And there's just so many things I want.

[00:07:34]>> So, you were hoping maybe, and this is Listen, listen listen. This is you being honest cuz if this is how I do it, if I don't think you're honest, then I just hand this off and I let I let the law enforcement handle it, right?

[00:07:45]>> But obviously, I didn't come with them, right? I'm not here with them. I'm here to confront you just to make sure you aren't a true threat to >> Correct.

[00:07:52]>> And make sure this maybe was some silly online banter. But when I'm reading these messages, this doesn't seem like some silly online banter. This seems very very scary and alarming and you know you said something about you know I love that you're this age and I promised you that I will be with you throughout your young adulthood. Did you not say that stuff?

[00:08:12]>> No, you're right. I did.

[00:08:14]>> But why would you say that?

[00:08:15]>> Because it's the thing.

[00:08:17]>> But it's not an dude.

[00:08:19]>> It is like even Okay.

[00:08:20]>> Do you understand that if this came like this is this is serious crimes. This is felonies.

[00:08:24]>> No, I understand where you're coming from.

[00:08:26]>> But but what do you mean? like you're you're acting like and and Kane like hear me like you're acting like that that this is just no big deal and you're like oh you know this is just I wanted to meet a catcher and I wanted to talk to them and bond with them and talk but this is like this is multiple felonies this is scary this is and like listen I don't know what you think I don't I don't know if you think that this is something that you wouldn't but like thankfully it's us and it's not them coming like this is Like this is very scary. Dude, >> I like I said, I understand where you're coming from. There's there's this hostility that adults have towards and they like to on people because they think they can't do anything. But that's that's not that's not what I'm trying to do. I knew from those from the get-go that you were a hunter.

[00:09:18]>> I was talking to you willingly.

[00:09:20]>> You weren't talking to me. You were talking to the decoy.

[00:09:21]>> No, I was talking to you.

[00:09:23]>> No, I I'm not the decoy. I don't I didn't know it was I didn't know it was you.

[00:09:26]>> I don't think he understands. It's not us. We don't We're not messaging with you.

[00:09:30]>> Oh, well then who is?

[00:09:32]>> Online team that does online monitoring between adults and >> Well, then I'm talking to them.

[00:09:36]>> Yes, but you're under the impression that it's a how >> I'm not I I'm not at all under the impression.

[00:09:42]>> You know how very you know very clearly how old she is.

[00:09:46]>> Yes. But again, that is the aspect.

[00:09:48]>> You're sitting here waiting. Like that's scary, man. I mean, what was your plan to do with her? Honestly, I just wanted to meet you.

[00:09:56]>> But that's not true.

[00:09:57]>> But that is >> Kane.

[00:09:59]>> Read the last couple messages.

[00:10:01]>> Yeah. Bring a breathman.

[00:10:02]>> No, no, not that. You said that you hope that this could be >> what? Just say >> you hope that this could be, you know, uh, you can hang out that you're excited and >> Yeah. Well, well, I mean, maybe not with you explicitly, but I want to be able to hang out with people in general.

[00:10:19]>> Yeah, but you can't hang out with your own.

[00:10:21]>> No, that's not the goal. But that's but that's what >> exactly the goal to say that >> there's never once you indicated anything different.

[00:10:27]>> Did I not mention >> and then you said well I mean is is your is your cousin going to watch me f you in the public park?

[00:10:33]>> Yeah that I mean >> what do you mean? Come on. Do you not understand that? What are you talking about?

[00:10:39]>> Look. Okay. I want to ask you what >> you said. Well I could you both you two could each other. I you and her and then me and her kiss or I her she you out and we kiss. Maybe something else knowingly wanted to commit a felony on purpose.

[00:10:56]>> No.

[00:10:56]>> So then what are you saying? That is that's what that is right there.

[00:10:58]>> I want to know what you guys are trying to get at because >> I'm trying to catch adults that are okay with talking to and agreeing to meet up with them for like what you did.

[00:11:06]>> I know what you are trying to do, but like >> that's what happened. No, that's not what I'm trying to do. It happened.

[00:11:10]>> Well, explain to me then. How does it not that >> have been explained to you? Do you not think every catcher says stuff like you're saying? Oh, I just I just wanted to see >> I've tried to explain to you I've tried to explain to you.

[00:11:20]>> So, you're saying these are kinks >> that you're into?

[00:11:23]>> Yes. Not not with but like actual >> Yes.

[00:11:27]>> So, if another showed up, what would you have done?

[00:11:30]>> Nothing. I would have just walked around in the park if she wanted to. I was not expecting anything.

[00:11:36]>> You know how scary that is though? Just the thought of like you're 26 years old coming from a national park with a old.

[00:11:44]>> Well, that's the thing. Like people hang out with all age groups all the time.

[00:11:48]So, >> but not adults ins.

[00:11:51]>> No, that's the thing. Have you ever played VR chat?

[00:11:53]>> But this ain't VR. This is real life.

[00:11:55]>> But VR chat is real life because it is hosted on a server in real life.

[00:12:02]>> Yes. And but you think an adult has any business hanging out with a >> I mean are what if they're related? I mean >> yeah they're related is one thing but you're not related Kane. You're meeting a stranger off the internet that is telling you and then you say somehow you you inherited perfect genes. I want you in my life. I'm surprised you think this. I want to be with you far beyond just years old. What does that mean?

[00:12:25]Well, if I could grow old with somebody, not that person specifically, but if I could with anybody, even if they were, let's say, 70 and I was 80, I would want to spend the rest of my 20 years, if I live to 100, with them. The age gap, the 10 years does not matter.

[00:12:48]>> What do you mean the age gap doesn't matter?

[00:12:51]The 10 year difference between 70 and 80 to me does not matter.

[00:12:55]>> So you're saying 26 till doesn't matter after she gets to the legal age.

[00:13:00]>> Exactly.

[00:13:00]>> Yeah. But she's not the legal age now.

[00:13:02]You know what that's called? It's called >> But the thing the thing is is I was under the impression from when I began talking to you that you were a hunter.

[00:13:10]Therefore, I wanted to say exactly what you wanted to hear so that way you could come to meet me.

[00:13:15]>> Kane, listen to me. I just sat in the car for five hours. We do this every like all the time. We hear the same thing. And you know why that people Let me You know why people are saying what you're saying right now is because there's two dudes >> confronting them, talking to them about what's going on.

[00:13:31]>> I mean, I know you're not holding anything.

[00:13:33]>> No, of course not. No. I'm not doing that.

[00:13:35]>> Not doing any of that. That doesn't happen. But there's two dudes confronting you. That's why you're giving us these these stories. I just they are not.

[00:13:44]>> You say I want let me let and let me say you say I want to be with you beyond just years old. She goes what do you mean? You say I know lots of guys probably just come to you cuz they want to leave but I want to stay with you way past your adult years.

[00:13:59]>> Let me ask you something. Do you have Telegram?

[00:14:01]>> Uh no. Why?

[00:14:02]>> But but no no. Did you hear what I just said? I know lots of guys probably just come to just want to and leave. I want to stay with you and pass your young adult years.

[00:14:16]Why are you like Why are you saying that? What? I have the messages. We can >> Yeah, like I have the messages, too. How about you show them the messages?

[00:14:25]>> What? What do you mean? I I see the messages.

[00:14:27]>> Yeah, I'm showing the camera.

[00:14:29]>> But what what is that going to do?

[00:14:30]>> Yeah. What is that?

[00:14:31]>> What does that mean?

[00:14:32]>> Showing you that this is an adult person who is actively ready.

[00:14:39]>> No.

[00:14:39]>> To >> You're an adult. the person you're talking to what you think is >> I don't think you get it >> and then and then I'm reading these and like these are sick. You you even you even say something along the lines right here which really made my stomach turn when you said honestly I think it would make it hotter knowing you're inexperienced. She goes, "Yeah, well, I'm a Okay. Well, just so you know, it might hurt when I break your What do you mean? You're going to But it'll be okay. It's completely natural."

[00:15:11]>> Yeah.

[00:15:13]>> Explain to him.

[00:15:15]>> I don't even I don't >> I mean, what what do you mean? Yeah.

[00:15:17]You're saying that to How does that make sense to you, bro?

[00:15:20]>> How's that right?

[00:15:21]>> I look >> Is that what you're saying? This is a fantasy.

[00:15:25]>> Yes.

[00:15:26]>> But but but you acted on it. Fantasy is something you think about. And you're here at the spot that you told the you'd meet her. Correct.

[00:15:33]>> Well, you keep saying she's, but I wasn't like I keep saying, I knew you guys were >> even if I wasn't talking to you.

[00:15:40]>> You even had her remind you, hey, what is your age again so I can have it in this chat forever?

[00:15:45]>> Yeah, exactly. So that way so that way I if I needed to it is recorded in chat that you guys not you two specifically since you have clarified that it is not you two speaking to me but whoever is online telling me that they are and trying to get me to commit crimes is >> they're not you you have the option when she said I am say oh my gosh you're way too to be talking to goodbye correct right like most adults would probably do >> even I think you thought, "Oh, this might be a honor," >> right? Don't you think that would make sense that if someone if you messaged someone and they said, "Hey, I'm" you would probably say, "Oh my gosh, never mind. I'm sorry."

[00:16:27]>> See, but that's the thing. As someone me who wants to find anyone, literally anyone to try to love, I will.

[00:16:37]>> So, be honest. Thank you. Be honest. No, now you're saying cuz now But no, you're trying to tell me that that you knew I was a hunter. That's what you're doing.

[00:16:43]Now you're being honest saying no. I was just willing.

[00:16:46]>> I can love you.

[00:16:48]>> What?

[00:16:49]>> I'm trying to say I can love you.

[00:16:52]I don't care if you're a hunter. I don't care what you do. I just want someone to love. I don't care if it's someone who plays at a age. I just want who even if it's you.

[00:17:04]>> But that but that matters. It can't be someone that's at a younger age. You can't love someone that's >> that's not the point here. The point is >> you're just saying are it's because you're homeless and you just want a friend. You want someone to talk to. You want someone to be compassionate. And is that what you're saying?

[00:17:18]>> Yes.

[00:17:19]>> But but do you understand that's fine?

[00:17:20]But do you understand it's not fine when you're when you're okay with it being a person and you're saying I want to your your your with my >> Well, I mean that's >> that's disgusting.

[00:17:32]>> I understand from your perspective anybody's perspective. If this was broadcasted live on national television, they would be like, "What?" You think anybody would agree with you?

[00:17:42]>> Well, I mean, depends on who you're talking to.

[00:17:45]>> Okay. Do you think anybody that would agree with you that's not a >> depends on who you're talking to?

[00:17:49]>> Who who depends on the whole aspect thing. Like a lot of people if they were into some of them might understand, some of them might not. But it really depends on who you talk to. What? What?

[00:18:02]>> There's a lot of people who like to have these daddy figures and there's a lot of people who like to have these figures.

[00:18:08]And so there's a lot of >> figures is crazy.

[00:18:11]>> But that's the thing. They're not actual.

[00:18:14]They are just >> You say, listen, you say, what's it say right here? You say, >> "Sorry, I'm going to be >> go for it." Well, all right. That's fair. I don't want to be a bad like I love your body. You're gorgeous as but if something that you didn't like ended up hate if I did something that you didn't like and you ended up hating me I wouldn't forgive myself you like what you don't want to be a bad what is a bad what is a good >> someone who take well sorry let's let's >> no explain it what's a what's a good >> let's talk about the bad the bad is the one that takes advantage and will just use them and do whatever they want with them and just take what they can from I'm not saying there is a good, but in this scenario, a good is someone who goes to someone else to expose what they are trying to do to try to get them to do the right thing and and explain to them that you can be loved no matter what.

[00:19:14]>> That made no sense.

[00:19:15]>> Yeah, you're there's no such thing as a good You can't type in good on in Google and it's going to show up that definition.

[00:19:20]>> Look, I said that a good doesn't exist.

[00:19:22]I just >> So then you just made it up. What a good was to you.

[00:19:25]>> Yeah, that's No, no, sorry. You You need to We need to start taking turns, okay?

[00:19:31]Cuz if we keep interrupting it'll I'll say something and then you'll be like, "Oh, well then you'll just hear >> Well, you just tried telling me a definition of what a good is and there's no such thing."

[00:19:39]>> No, that's what I said. I said there is no good definition of it. That's why I said in this scenario what a good is in air quotes.

[00:19:46]>> So it's only your scenario >> specifically. Yes. Because I knew from the get-go that you guys, whoever was in charge was not an authentic.

[00:19:58]>> But how do we know that?

[00:19:59]>> Well, you're I guess you can't know that.

[00:20:01]>> And how would the law know that? If they come here and they're like reading this, you're going to explain that to them.

[00:20:06]You think they're going to go, "Oh, that makes sense."

[00:20:07]>> Well, I mean, to be truthful, it it really depends. But I mean, even if I went to jail, >> and that's not our goal. We don't care.

[00:20:15]We're not we're not here to That's not our See, but that's the thing. It does kind of seem like it's your goal because you did kind of come out here for 5 hours >> or 5 hours to catch people to make sure they are not a threat and you're over here telling me that >> waste of our time. We could have just called the cop. Come over here. There's a guy waiting >> cuz cuz maybe like I don't know. How do you not get that? You know how easy that would have been?

[00:20:36]>> No, but that's the thing like I have seen many hunter videos where they confront the person and then afterwards there they walk away and then the per the police come and pick them up later.

[00:20:47]Well, that's that's not going to happen.

[00:20:48]I don't know. I don't know how else to explain to them. It wouldn't it would be way too much work to just come here and then bring Yeah. to just have them come up here and and take that wouldn't make sense. We We want to come and communicate to We want to Our job is to understand what is going on with this human that is meeting someone that's >> and you're explaining it. You're kind of like saying like, "Oh, I I just wanted someone to love. I didn't care who showed up. I was just hoping somebody showed up."

[00:21:12]>> True. Well, you see it that that's worrisome because if a would have showed up, how do we know? You just said I would have walked away, but then now you're saying I want someone to love and I don't care about the age.

[00:21:23]>> So, which one is it? Would you have walked away and showed up or would you have loved them?

[00:21:26]>> I did not say I would walk away. I said I would walk in the park. I did say that >> withyold.

[00:21:32]>> Yeah. Why not?

[00:21:33]>> Why not?

[00:21:34]>> Yeah, why not?

[00:21:35]>> Why would you? So, why not meet up with a >> If nothing actually goes on, is it illegal?

[00:21:41]>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, it's not illegal to be friends with >> you. But but after you say these things, it is if like that's the thing.

[00:21:49]>> I understand where you're coming from. I do. But >> what else would you like to know?

[00:21:57]>> Well, I'm just trying to like have you done this before?

[00:21:59]>> No.

[00:22:00]>> Well, then why now?

[00:22:01]>> I Well, I just thought the Hunter videos were kind of entertaining and I kind of >> you wanted to be on one >> kind of.

[00:22:08]>> Why?

[00:22:08]>> Just to see what popular not popular, but like you know online internet uh celebrity kind of stuff is like >> I mean but this isn't a good this isn't good publicity though >> it's not funny >> and it's not funny man this is sad I I like like you're telling me you're you're willing to just meet anybody and you just want to it doesn't matter who but this is like I'm reading this you say you're so gorgeous it would be such an honor to feel your pulse on my before I fill it up with my >> true >> you think that's okay to it's not funny why you think it's funny this isn't funny.

[00:22:41]>> I I I'm sorry. I laughed at it.

[00:22:43]>> You think would think this is funny?

[00:22:46]>> No, they probably think it's gross cuz they're knowing about my life.

[00:22:51]>> What What is it? Have you done something similar?

[00:22:53]>> I haven't had in six years.

[00:22:56]>> I literally have.

[00:22:57]>> So, let's say you were to call one of them and be like, "Hey, look, I messed up. This is what happened." Blah, blah, blah. You think they're going to believe your story of, "Oh, I just wanted to expose a hunter >> and be and find someone to love cuz first it's exposure hunters." Oh, >> first you say I want to expose. Then you say I just wanted someone to show up the love.

[00:23:14]>> Yes, both are true.

[00:23:15]>> But I mean, what do you how are you exposing me? You didn't expose me. I didn't do anything.

[00:23:19]>> That's the thing. It's on video.

[00:23:20]>> Yeah, it's on video that you're here at the location where you agreed to meet old for >> See, but that's the impression you were getting.

[00:23:26]>> It's in the messaging. You say, I take I'm going to take your hands. Let me read this. I'll take your hand. I'll take you by your hands, push you against a wall, lift your hands above your head with one hand, and the other one hand would would go into your into your and I would feel that.

[00:23:42]Then I'd insert one and you before I you of all your clothing and start kissing your body. How do you even hear that and feel okay? Like I'm reading this and it's making me sick to my stomach. After that, I'd pull you down onto a bed and on a ground or couch and I >> kiss. Then I would take my out and rub it on your before I gently push it in to feel how you are.

[00:24:04]>> Yes, these are all things I said, but if you also look, I did say I'm excited for whatever comes with.

[00:24:11]>> No, I was specifically prepared for this.

[00:24:13]>> You say, okay, well then let me read this. You say, I'll take my out and rub it on your before I gently push it and feel how you are. I you till I hear you moan and then I maintain the speed until you beg me to stop you. Even though I wouldn't stop, I'd want to finish you.

[00:24:27]When I unload my hot steaming you, I'd again to clear to clean you off.

[00:24:32]>> Yes.

[00:24:33]>> Battery 7%.

[00:24:34]>> What do you mean?

[00:24:35]>> What do you mean? Yes. Do you not?

[00:24:37]>> You have to understand these are not things being said toy old.

[00:24:40]>> This under your knowledge. You understand the law.

[00:24:42]>> No, this is your knowledge. My knowledge is that you guys are who are of age and commit and trying to get me to commit crimes. I am talking to whoever of any age above 18 and I am trying to understand them and I'm trying to talk to them and I'm trying to tell them that I can love them no matter who they are.

[00:25:04]>> I mean isn't it doesn't make sense though? Why would any would why would some random person come here and then you tell them that and they go, "You know what? I love you too, Kane. Let's let's be friends. Let's love each other."

[00:25:13]>> And I'd love that.

[00:25:14]>> But why do you think that's realistic?

[00:25:16]Well, because love is love is about communication.

[00:25:24]>> What do you mean it's about communication?

[00:25:26]>> Well, communication via touch and sound like you have to you have to talk to someone to >> Okay, let let me ask you this. Do you do you have any on your phone?

[00:25:38]>> No.

[00:25:39]>> Or any you never look it up?

[00:25:41]>> No.

[00:25:41]>> Ever?

[00:25:42]>> No.

[00:25:42]>> You promise?

[00:25:43]>> Promise. Cuz I mean, usually people doing this type of stuff would >> I understand.

[00:25:49]>> You have nothing on your phone. You sure be time to get get off your chest if you do.

[00:25:53]>> Yeah, I don't.

[00:25:55]>> I mean, dude, I'm reading these and you literally say you say right here, would you let me you?

[00:26:02]>> Yeah. I mean that doesn't matter if look does not specifically refer to the age is a an act of inappropriate touching with or without consent but then that also deems the the uh uh the there's a thing called consent non-consent where people can consent to things before they actually consent to things. So, you thought it could happen to you.

[00:26:27]>> No, you keep bringing up >> because you were here.

[00:26:30]>> You guys keep bringing up the 11-year-old thing, but I'm talking to you two. I'm not you two, but whoever is in charge. Like, I know it's them. I'm talking to them.

[00:26:39]>> Then why wouldn't Well, then why wouldn't you just say, >> "But didn't I?"

[00:26:42]>> No.

[00:26:42]>> Didn't you read the chat?

[00:26:44]>> No. You said, "Are you a catfish?" And she said, "No." And then she said, "Are you a catfish?" And you said, "No." Why would I pick someone so ugly to be a catfish? And that was it. That was the only thing that you brought up. Of course, you know how many times I catch these people and you know what they say?

[00:26:54]Are you the cops? Are you this? Are you one of those catchers? Of course they asked that.

[00:26:58]>> Yeah, it's in the chat. So you you specifically >> That doesn't matter. No, that doesn't matter if you lie. They they It's under your knowledge. You understand the the statute?

[00:27:07]>> That's the That's the thing.

[00:27:08]>> It's not Kane's law. It's the state law and you're going under your knowledge knowing that >> this is the thing. You guys are continuing to me and I am talking to you the camera and I'm trying to get my ideas out there. trying to tell my side of the story, but you guys keep coming at me.

[00:27:27]>> Okay, fine. Explain it to where it would make sense to the viewers and everyone else because this is your time. You said you wanted the publicity. Here you go.

[00:27:33]You get to do it.

[00:27:34]>> Ask questions.

[00:27:36]>> Ask what question.

[00:27:37]>> No, explain explain everything that you're wanting to explain. You're saying that that we're a you. I'm telling you what you're saying is is messed up.

[00:27:45]>> You guys are me because I am here and you guys will not leave me alone. You guys have claimed you guys are here to make sure that I am not a threat. I have proven I am not a threat and therefore >> How have you proven that? Your messages don't prove that.

[00:28:00]>> Well, how can I prove I'm not a threat then?

[00:28:03]>> At this point being honest, you know, you know what? This is what I think. No, he can't. If he's honest, no, that's the thing. When you're lying, that's how I know. That's when I know that if you're lying that you are a threat cuz you're trying to get away. You're trying to be like, "Listen, guys, I'm a good guy. I was just I have this fantasy and yeah trying to manipulate us to believe in you know what I think Kane is telling the truth. I don't think he really meant the middle. I think he did come here cuz he's just lonely and wants love >> but he thinks we're going to >> and I think that is true. That part is true. I do believe that but I don't believe that you thought we are a cuz nobody in their right mind would wait for a hunter to come catch them.

[00:28:37]>> No, I do. I mean this is the first time I've done it but this is the first time I have >> this rental car the rental car company.

[00:28:44]This is the first time I have been in a position where I can actually come and do something. Therefore, I wanted this opportunity to actually talk to you people.

[00:28:54]>> I wanted to Yeah, please. We can pause this if you >> All right. What So, what is your your story? What why are you here?

[00:29:07]>> Well, I wanted to find someone who I could bond with.

[00:29:10]>> Yeah, but you can't you can't do that thinking you're meeting. I didn't do that.

[00:29:14]>> So theor theoretically, right, you think that you're meeting hunters, why would you continue to talk like that to a hunter?

[00:29:21]>> Because I feel like if if I can show them that, you know, you guys, even if you guys are doing what you do, there's potential where two people who are seemingly incompatible can make something work. It's something I think is beautiful, >> but you can't you can't do that with knowing your knowledge. You I know you keep saying, "Oh, I knew it was a hunter, this and that." But you were continuing the conversation in a manner.

[00:29:51]Not normal for somebody to think, "Oh, this could be a potential hunter and I'm going to continue committing felonies."

[00:29:59]That's not how it works. I know you're trying to you're you're probably embarrassed right now. I'm not here to judge you. He's not here to judge you.

[00:30:04]And there's people listen listen. And if I was in this situation, honestly, man to man, I would be a little bit embarrassed. Just a little bit. You know what I'm saying? I would be embarrassed.

[00:30:12]Like, damn. Like, >> not even a little bit.

[00:30:14]>> I would never put myself in this situation. But you you can't say that you came here thinking it was a hunter and you wanted to expose them. That you're not exposing us. You're not at all. Like, you're committing felonies and then sitting here telling us, "Oh, I I wanted to, you know, expose you guys."

[00:30:31]That doesn't make sense. I understand where it comes from on your side, but it's not about the it's not about what we are talking about. It is the sentiment behind it.

[00:30:45]>> What's the sentiment? What is what is that?

[00:30:46]>> I I understand you don't think I knew you were hunters, but >> No, because you wouldn't have committed felonies doing that. You would have committed felonies and been like, you know, I would have done this to come and meet you. Yes.

[00:30:59]>> Why? because I it's it's difficult to understand.

[00:31:05]>> All right, so help me understand.

[00:31:07]Honestly, help me understand.

[00:31:08]>> I I'm really lonely. Okay, >> I get it. But do you know how many people there is out out there that >> Nobody chooses me. I'm on Tinder. I'm on Bumble. I'm on >> just wait for somebody to talk to people that come to the park. There's a lot of adults that come to the park. Do you stay out here in the park or you stay somewhere else?

[00:31:24]>> Well, I already told you where I stay.

[00:31:26]Well, I know you don't stay with your parents, but I'm saying there's more people that could be out.

[00:31:32]You saw there was grown people here earlier. You could talk to them. Hey, hey, how you doing?

[00:31:36]>> That's not what I'm looking for. I'm not just looking for, hey, how are you? Do you want to chat? Okay, nice to see you.

[00:31:43]Byebye.

[00:31:44]>> All right.

[00:31:44]>> What I want is someone I can kiss, someone I can hug, someone I can >> kiss.

[00:31:54]>> Oh, no. No. You thought this is what I'm saying. What you're saying makes exactly what we're saying sense. So you're thinking that you're going to be able to do all these things with old. If that's your Listen, if that's your provocative, that's you. But that's you can't do that. That's that's illegal.

[00:32:11]>> Look, I understand you keep saying it's we need to understand it from we need to present it from my perspective. All right?

[00:32:18]>> Because if you keep presenting it from yours, it's going to incriminate me.

[00:32:21]>> Okay. Okay. What? What? Explain then what you're saying your perspective is.

[00:32:27]>> From the very get-go, I knew there were.

[00:32:31]I knew they pretended to be younger ages. I wanted to see what the scene was like to understand their perspective.

[00:32:41]Like, why do they feel like being a catfish and eliciting people to talk?

[00:32:50]See, that's the thing. There are older people who pretend to be and that gets the older people who are talking to those people to then talk to actual people where they will actually commit crimes. This means actual. This means literal. Sorry. Sorry. Actual. Sorry.

[00:33:13]Actual. Figurative. Does that mean make sense? Actual.

[00:33:18]So run that. So that last part again, actual figurative, right? So you're saying figuratively speaking, you came here to >> prevent a crime >> by committing a crime?

[00:33:33]>> Yeah.

[00:33:34]>> So you were just going to say, you know what? I'm going to take one for the team. I'm going to commit felonies >> to try to get people to stop pretending to be >> You don't think Look, look. You don't think what we do is a good thing? Like >> No, I don't. Why? Why don't you Okay, let's go there. Why do you think that what we're doing is not a good thing?

[00:33:51]And it's not even us that did it. We're just here to talk to you about it.

[00:33:54]>> You're just doing your job.

[00:33:56]>> I don't think that this profession should be a profession because if there are people pretending to be that puts the audience at risk.

[00:34:08]>> No, it does. Because if people think it is acceptable because let's say in this scenario, let's say I stopped talking to you. Okay.

[00:34:17]>> Not me, but but the person that you were talking to, right?

[00:34:20]>> Let Yes. Whoever Whoever that is. Let's say I stopped talking to them, but I was under the impression that was ready.

[00:34:28]Let's just let's just say that's the situation. That means if I did not stop, sorry. If I did stop talking to you and I thought that was ready, what if I continue to think other were too? Do you understand where I'm coming from?

[00:34:43]>> I don't. It just sounds like a big runaround of Like I'm trying to understand what you're saying, but I can't because I don't have the mindset that maybe you have a different mindset. But what we do is we prevent this from happening. We prevent grown adults from talking to >> No, I understand.

[00:35:02]>> So how is what we're doing a bad thing you in your opinion?

[00:35:05]>> That's the thing. Because you're giving the impression that they are ready even though they are not. You are giving whoever is wanting to pray on those the opportunity to understand hey they are ready let's go take care let's go take advantage of them because >> you have a sister right >> I do yes >> what if somebody your age when she was what if somebody your age tried to >> basically what would you what would your what would your reaction Honestly, I don't know.

[00:35:46]>> There there's a lot of whatifs for that scenario.

[00:35:50]>> There's a lot of whatifs in that scenario that >> Explain. Oh, hold on. Hold on. I don't mean to cut you off. I'm so sorry. Yeah.

[00:35:55]Yeah. Fine.

[00:35:56]>> What >> I basically He's basically saying what we do is a bad thing because it's creating a environment for real to feel like that it's okay to do.

[00:36:09]>> Do you understand?

[00:36:10]>> Yeah. But but we're not creating an opportunity because there's never there's not a real involved.

[00:36:16]>> And then I asked him what if was years old, his sister, and what if she was getting how would you feel?

[00:36:22]>> And the response is what?

[00:36:24]>> See, but let's go back just a bit. I also said that >> Oh, wait. What did you say? I remember what I want to say, but I don't remember what I want to say.

[00:36:34]>> Something about how >> Okay, let's just continue where we left off. It's on the video so you'll catch it later.

[00:36:42]Let's say somebody my sister at She's She's 27 now. I'm 26. Let's say if I was and she was and somebody >> How would you feel? Like honestly, be honest. Don't try to say it because you're in the position you're in now.

[00:36:58]>> No, that No, I am being honest. I don't know what I'd do. I might ask her if she was honest.

[00:37:05]Did you like it? You would ask old sister.

[00:37:09]>> Not if I was. Yes.

[00:37:11]>> Why would you ask?

[00:37:13]>> No. No. If you're the age now and you have a >> not if I'm not He did not specify that.

[00:37:18]>> Okay. Well, now he is.

[00:37:19]>> Okay. Let's Let's say I'm 26 now and I'm I have an old sister. I would probably bastard.

[00:37:27]>> Well, what makes the difference from when you're to now that you would ask her if you would like it?

[00:37:31]>> Well, there's nothing I can do at 10 years old. You expect a 10year-old to >> Yeah.

[00:37:35]>> go to your parents? But but you're trying to justify and say there's a difference, but you were literally here sitting on a park bench waiting for even though you can say you knew it wasn't a realy old. Your messaging does not say that otherwise.

[00:37:51]>> Not to cut him off. Not to cut him off.

[00:37:53]I'm going to answer that because he's saying that he did that to take one for the team to commit felonies to prevent this from happening.

[00:38:00]>> But how does this prevent this ain't going to prevent nothing? Done 100 catches. This ain't going to change anything.

[00:38:04]>> That's the thing. You're just 101.

[00:38:06]>> That's the thing.

[00:38:08]I'm doing this to prevent other from getting hurt.

[00:38:13]>> Do you understand?

[00:38:14]>> So, okay. So, first off, it was I'm here to expose hunters. Second, it was I'm just looking for love. So, anybody that showed up, I wanted to love them. Now, three, it's this. So, you have all the you have all these excuses for why you're here waiting for a >> Look, this is the guy who keeps >> You were presentable. Thank you.

[00:38:32]>> I'm here. Talk to him. That's fine. I can stay back. He can talk to you.

[00:38:36]>> So, what what what were you trying to explain? Explain to Let me hear what you're saying. Huh?

[00:38:40]>> Vaping.

[00:38:40]>> I am vaping. But listen, >> what were you trying to present to what he was saying?

[00:38:48]>> I don't even remember what he was saying. He just He just talks. I want to talk to you right now.

[00:38:53]>> About what?

[00:38:54]>> Well, what do you want to know?

[00:38:55]>> Why you're here and why you're saying >> I've already given you why I'm here.

[00:38:58]>> But but you understand where I'm coming from, where he's coming from, where everybody else would. It doesn't make sense. I'm I'm just saying theoretically it does not make any sense. That's why we're asking you what we're He's not coming to antagonize you. He honestly wants to know. He's getting upset because we drove 5 hours. We didn't have to drive 5 hours. We could have just >> I'm trying to tell you, but you guys >> All right. Go ahead. I'm I'm letting you go ahead.

[00:39:20]>> Well, you're getting frustrated. How do you think I feel? I'm sitting here in front of the guy that was talking to what he what what he was messaging was a thought was messaging under what the person told you. And you said you want to touch can't wait to fill her up with Right. Correct.

[00:39:36]>> Correct.

[00:39:37]>> Do you not see how that's that's a problem? That's scary. That's a threat.

[00:39:40]There's 500 online active thou 500,000 online active.

[00:39:44]>> This is why please talk.

[00:39:47]>> I was going to ask you the same thing.

[00:39:49]>> See, but it's the way he comes off.

[00:39:52]>> Because he's frustrated. We just drove.

[00:39:53]>> And you're getting frustrated, right?

[00:39:54]>> You're getting frustrated. I'm getting frustrated. We're all We're just trying to get to the bottom of why you're here and you keep saying that it's because you thought it was a you knew the whole time it was a honor. But what the messages say it doesn't make sense for you to think that.

[00:40:08]>> I mean, let's let's say I did say somewhere down the line that oh, I know you're a and she says, oh, but no, I'm not. How can I how can I possibly continue that conversation? I mean, honestly, even if she said she's not, even if even if I know she's not, sorry, I know she is a I know you guys are.

[00:40:27]That is the point I'm trying to get across. But even if she said she was not, after I said I know, and I still continued to talk to her under the impression that I would one day meet you guys, what would that have done? I'm going to log in on my the >> Do you Do you see why asking or saying that I know you're a hunter gets me nowhere? And I know you're recording now, too.

[00:40:53]>> No, he's >> Sorry. No, no, I'm trying to figure out this little >> um I I don't understand. I know you want me to understand, but I'm going to be honest with you. I don't I honestly don't understand like where you're coming from because we hear this what how many times >> I've done it over 100 catches >> and they say the same thing because they have somebody now confronting them about this but if it was >> you just used the word catch so that way I know you guys are trying to get me to go to jail.

[00:41:22]>> No, I'm saying this is catches. This is catching me right now. You showed up >> telling you and asking you what's going on. You want us to rephrase it?

[00:41:29]>> Honest. Honestly, I would just like to know how much longer you plan to be here. I can stay here all day.

[00:41:36]>> I mean, I just want to know. I want you to be honest. That's >> I have been honest.

[00:41:40]>> But you haven't, though. And you got to understand Hold on. Hold on. You got to understand where we're coming from because in anybody else's mind, what you're doing is not what you're saying.

[00:41:50]You're not coming here to expose a hunter.

[00:41:54]>> I am though.

[00:41:55]>> So, you would That's what I'm saying. So you would commit felonies just to expose hunters.

[00:42:01]>> Well, let's say let's say somebody this is >> you know that's a felony, right?

[00:42:05]>> Let's let's this is an extreme example.

[00:42:07]Let's say there's someone in the government who wants to expose corruption but the government has laws where if you do certain actions within the government or the land you live within that has the government hate. I know. Then that means you are >> you are at risk of breaking the law to do the right thing. Do you understand?

[00:42:29]Because the government specifically has laws that prevents you from exposing that corruption.

[00:42:37]>> No, it doesn't. Cuz the guys that we catch, a lot of them are exposed. And then the ones that lie to us and don't, then we turn it over and they get charged and convicted. See, but that that's how I know you guys. You guys keep saying you just >> No, I'm saying if they're not honest with us, then I say, "Hey, well, this is useless, Chris. Let's leave and just go give to them." That's what we do.

[00:42:55]>> That's how we handle this. But you're not being honest and you're kind of being honest.

[00:42:58]>> I'm trying to give you a chance to explain it and you're telling >> Listen, we're trying to give you a chance to explain it because what you're saying makes zero sense.

[00:43:07]>> Okay, but how would he like me to explain? I can't look.

[00:43:11]>> You came to me in a world for Right.

[00:43:14]>> No. Okay, but you can't you knew it was and you said on the text set >> you were putting that in the video.

[00:43:20]>> Okay. Well, let let these officers uh >> see >> Hey, so this gentleman right here uh what did you what did you come here to do?

[00:43:27]>> Uh actually, how about you just watch that video? It's on his his phone.

[00:43:31]>> All right. He came here to meet a for Yeah. And I have all the information.

[00:43:36]Listen, I didn't drive five hours from Del Beach because this is some kind of make believe.

[00:43:41]>> Please just watch that video. No, they're going to see the evidence and then that's what they're going to do.

[00:43:45]>> It's on the phone >> of you emitting it.

[00:43:48]>> Yes, it's all on there.

[00:43:49]>> Okay. So, what we're going to do, we're just going to hang out. My partner's going to come and we're going to bring it up, but for right now, we're just going to hang out until my >> Perfect.

[00:43:56]>> Do you have any weapons on you, sir?

[00:43:58]>> Um, no. You can search me if you'd like.

[00:43:59]>> Okay. You mind standing up?

[00:44:01]>> Put your hands on top of your head face away from me, please. I'm going to pat you down for any weapons.

[00:44:06]>> Please watch the video.

[00:44:07]>> The video don't mean >> No, it has everything. Kane, you came here to meet a you said you wanted to know her and you can't wait to fill her up with not say that in messaging. Did you not say that in messaging? Yes or no?

[00:44:21]>> This is what I was talking about.

[00:44:23]>> All right, I'll let you both videos.

[00:44:26]>> What is your name?

[00:44:27]>> Doesn't matter.

[00:44:28]>> Okay, I'm going to stop talking. Stop talking. We'll figure it out.

[00:44:32]>> Yeah, we're going to >> hang out till my partner gets here.

[00:44:34]>> Thank you very much.

[00:44:36]>> Appcate.

[00:44:37]>> Can I ask a question?

[00:44:38]>> You can ask a question. Will there be any review of evidence?

[00:44:42]>> Of course. I can't arrest anybody without evidence.

[00:44:44]>> Okay.

[00:44:45]>> How soon is the evidence uh reviewed?

[00:44:48]>> So, I as soon as my partner gets here within the next 5 minutes.

[00:44:51]>> Understood.

[00:44:52]>> I'm going to talk with you and I'm going to talk with these fine gentlemen and we're going to get it figured out.

[00:44:55]>> Is it okay if they stop recording?

[00:44:57]>> It's a public. They can record all they want.

[00:44:59]>> Okay, that is fair.

[00:45:00]>> I'm recording as well.

[00:45:01]>> That is fair. And I'm going to need your camera, too.

[00:45:05]>> Okay. You can do a public request at the sheriff's office.

[00:45:08]>> Okay. Going to have to You you think I drove 5 hours?

[00:45:12]>> Yes.

[00:45:12]>> To to just say bye.

[00:45:14]>> I have given you everything. You have come here to Actually, I'm going to say nothing.

[00:45:26]>> How How is your day?

[00:45:28]>> It's been good, man.

[00:45:30]>> Is it okay if I turn off my phone to conserve battery? How I prefer if you don't touch your phone right now? I could use evidence right now. So, I'm just going to leave it as is. Okay.

[00:45:43]>> Have any weapons in your bags?

[00:45:45]>> No, you can you can search.

[00:45:50]>> And I understand where you're coming from, sir. You just walked into a situation.

[00:45:54]>> Mhm.

[00:45:56]>> But you have every right to know >> clearly.

[00:46:04]What's your name?

[00:46:06]>> Hey, yes.

[00:46:32]Would >> you like to see anything right now?

[00:46:36]>> No, we're just going to hang out like I said.

[00:46:38]>> Okay. Yeah. Wait for him 100%.

[00:46:39]>> I don't want him to get airport. So, >> Yep. I specifically would like it if you reviewed that camera with the >> They don't care about our videos. I'm going to tell you something. I've done 100 catches. Been doing this for 4 and a half years. They don't care about our videos. They care about what's in the text messages and you Yeah, exactly.

[00:46:53]>> They said that the evidence would all be reviewed.

[00:46:55]>> That's not evidence. My phone can evidence.

[00:46:58]>> Do you think you know more than me about this?

[00:46:59]>> That is evidence. It's not >> because if I was not here >> I'm done talking. Yeah, I will. I would just turn it in and then it Yeah, there's no >> What's up, guys? Thanks for everyone tuning in, all the support.

[00:47:18]>> This gentleman right here thinks this is a game. Came here to meet for It's absolutely disgusting.

[00:47:28]get his video >> here. I'll say what he he's trying to say that he has kinks and this was he had three different excuses. He said he showed up here, he knew it was hunters and he just wanted to uh be on a first he said he wanted to expose hunters.

[00:47:41]Then he said he thought it would be cool to be on a stream cuz he sees the videos. And then three, he said that he wanted to come here to just because he didn't care who it was, he just wanted to love them. He said even if it was me, he just wanted somebody to love cuz he's homeless. He's he's broken right now. He has nothing going on in his life. So he thought, you know what, that's what he says excuses, right? That's that's not what happened. That's not what happened.

[00:48:02]He said he wanted to take her and he couldn't wait to he said it's going to it's going to hurt. Said I can't wait to Yeah. in a park, guys. Said he couldn't he couldn't wait to fill her up with I'm sorry. This is disgusting guys. This is the reality.

[00:48:17]>> Yeah. So I think it is very important you get that video.

[00:48:20]>> The video don't mean >> showing my partner.

[00:48:22]>> Yes, sir.

[00:48:23]>> I don't know. It's Ear here. Chris, >> stay stay right here.

[00:48:30]>> I have to continue recording.

[00:48:31]>> See, he just admitted it, too.

[00:48:34]>> I would just ask if you just step back.

[00:48:35]>> Yeah, of course. 100 100%. 100%. Yeah.

[00:48:38]Yeah. Here, I'll stand on this side so that way you could see me.

[00:48:43]>> No, >> I prefer if you did this.

[00:48:46]>> Hold on. Let me grab grab a drink.

[00:48:51]>> Let's just talk.

[00:48:52]>> Okay. Sorry. I'm just I >> do you mind talking to me?

[00:48:55]>> I'm fine.

[00:48:56]>> Okay.

[00:48:58]>> All right.

[00:48:59]>> I'm here. I got a call that something was going on. Some kind of disturbance or something. I'm trying to figure out what's what's going on. Okay.

[00:49:05]>> So, from your side of the story here, can you explain what's going on? Why you're here today?

[00:49:10]>> It's a very complicated.

[00:49:14]It's hard to explain. Everything is explained in that video. I can if you watch it at this point it might be like like full 35 minutes long but >> can you just give me a rundown from your mouth please?

[00:49:27]>> I came to try to expose >> where did you come from? We'll start there.

[00:49:33]>> Well I'm homeless right now.

[00:49:35]>> Okay. Where were you staying?

[00:49:36]>> I'm not giving that information.

[00:49:38]>> Okay.

[00:49:40]>> So you came here to expose is what I'm getting >> correct.

[00:49:44]>> Okay. How how are you planning on doing that? Well, I knew from the very get-go based off of people online there like uh there's this there's this one >> well there's this one I've seen before called Robbie Catches and I thought his content was music >> and so I thought well maybe if I could talk to them maybe I can understand why they do what they do because from my perspective people who are pretending to be a page. Let's say if there is a an actual who >> goes sorry if let's say there is an actual who talks to this pedaler right >> they they decide for whatever reason to leave but they already have the impression that the younger audience is I guess ready is is a good term I don't know if that's a good term but it gives that impression. Therefore, that would go and talk to actual audience and actually commit crime.

[00:50:55]>> You're confusing me a little bit. So, you wanted to meet with >> hunters because you believe that they are themselves. No, no. I believe that they are giving the environment, sorry, giving to the environment the situation in which can actually commit crimes.

[00:51:18]>> How so? because they are they are pretending to be audience who and they give the impression of wanting to do things with the older audience but actual audience.

[00:51:37]>> Let's break it down like this. Okay.

[00:51:39]>> Cuz it's kind of random.

[00:51:41]>> Sorry.

[00:51:42]>> What was the conversation for you to meet these gentlemen?

[00:51:47]>> I can't talk. You can't recall. It was just about talking.

[00:51:50]>> Okay. You can't recall anything that was said in the text messages?

[00:51:53]>> Not really.

[00:51:54]>> Okay. Who Who were you texting specifically? Which number were you texting me to say?

[00:51:58]>> I can't even remember the number. I just know the number.

[00:52:00]>> Just the number you were texting. You don't remember anything you said to the son?

[00:52:03]>> I just know the name that they gave me.

[00:52:06]>> Okay. What were you saying to >> I was Again, this was under the impression that I that they were uh I was talking to as if I could potentially see her as something more than just >> What do you mean by that? What is an age?

[00:52:28]>> You know what?

[00:52:30]>> I'm not track.

[00:52:31]>> Okay. Is someone who is of age that pretends to be >> Okay. So, you were texting this >> with the interpretation of somebody of age pretending to be someone.

[00:52:45]>> And what were you saying? I was I'll be honest. I was saying >> very I wouldn't know what to say.

[00:52:52]>> So it's >> Oh, I got a call.

[00:53:04]>> Yeah, that's No, that's you. Is that you?

[00:53:14]I want to talk to you some more, but we got you.

[00:53:17]>> No, I just >> I want to talk to you some more. I just want to try to figure out some stuff. We can go from there. Can I read you something real quick?

[00:53:23]>> Yeah, you're not.

[00:53:24]>> You're going to read me my rights?

[00:53:25]>> Yes, I want to do that. And then I want to talk to you a little bit more and then I'll let you get the date and everything that way. Thank you. All right. Well, let have it in here.

[00:53:38]Is it a nicotine one or what?

[00:53:39]>> Yes, it's nicotine. It's a orange uh crush flavor.

[00:53:43]>> Okay. Okay. Thank you, sir.

[00:53:45]>> I should I should also tell you I do have KCTP on me. KCTP, not THC. KCTP is a late evil derivative.

[00:53:52]>> Yes, sir.

[00:53:53]>> That's fine. Just let him do that.

[00:53:55]>> You have the right to sell. Anything you say can be used against you before the law.

[00:54:01]>> Do you understand these rights about explaining to you?

[00:54:04]>> Yes. having these rights in mind, you would stop.

[00:54:07]>> Yes.

[00:54:07]>> Okay.

[00:54:08]>> So, >> I would like to say though, if you give me plenty of time to respond, I need to I need to think of my response.

[00:54:17]>> That way, I don't uh say anything uh that would otherwise put me in peril.

[00:54:22]>> Okay. What do you mean like be in peril?

[00:54:24]>> Well, I mean like you know, I don't want to go to jail, but if I have to, I will.

[00:54:30]>> Okay. Because as long as I can prove my side, I will go wherever I want.

[00:54:34]>> Okay. So tell me, so you talked to my partner. Okay. Pretty cool about things.

[00:54:39]Okay.

[00:54:40]>> So why don't you actually talk to us now about these messages?

[00:54:44]>> Yes.

[00:54:47]>> So you tell me. I just like I'd like to know about the messages. So like you know like what prompted you to send them?

[00:54:52]>> Uh not sure. You don't know like so >> I just know that they >> How did it How did it all lead up to this point?

[00:55:04]>> Well, this person >> I met them on a site called Chated, which is a it's a social platform where nobody under the age of 18.

[00:55:15]>> Yes.

[00:55:16]So therefore, I go on that site knowing that whoever is on the site cannot legally be on the site if they are very keen. Therefore, I talk to them as if they are an adult.

[00:55:29]>> Okay.

[00:55:30]>> Yes.

[00:55:31]>> So you talk to them under the basis that they're >> Yes. Because because if they are they're not allowed on the site.

[00:55:39]>> Well, people lie about going on sites like that all the time.

[00:55:42]>> True.

[00:55:43]>> Okay. So that's my >> true. Okay. So, how did it So, you started talking to this person. Okay.

[00:55:51]You started texting obviously. How did at what point did what point did you decide to start making the more explicit messages?

[00:56:01]>> I think it was they were your foreign chat.

[00:56:05]>> Yeah.

[00:56:06]>> What kind of messages did you send?

[00:56:09]>> I think it was more like just asking what they wanted.

[00:56:12]>> Okay. Like what did you tell them? I think >> like if you don't remember like they gave me the lameness term is what you said.

[00:56:20]>> I think I told them I wanted someone.

[00:56:23]>> Okay. That's all you said?

[00:56:26]>> I can't recall the Did you ever say about >> Yes. But that was under the impression that they are not actually >> I knew they were >> How did you know?

[00:56:44]>> Well, because there there are many many people who go online and pretend to be >> and >> how did you figure How do you figure they were >> By the way, are you going for that video >> right now? I'm worried about talking to you.

[00:56:59]>> Okay. I'm just concerned that video specifically is not going to get reviewed for you about what's the video.

[00:57:05]>> That video explains everything. It explains how they came here, explains how it explains my question. So, how did you know specifically that the person was that they were?

[00:57:22]>> Well, honestly, it's just the utility of that site. the there there's no people who actually go on there and just talk like there's the chat site specifically is mostly used as far as I understand for type of chats like there's bots that try to get you to click sites there's there's people who try to sell content there's people who >> just cite But stuff selling content that's like situation.

[00:57:57]>> No, it's not.

[00:58:00]>> There are very many.

[00:58:07]>> Okay. So, >> did you any point in time? I was like, "Oh, I think I don't think you're real."

[00:58:13]>> Yeah, I did.

[00:58:15]>> Like, oh, I don't think you're real.

[00:58:16]>> Yes.

[00:58:16]>> What did you tell?

[00:58:17]>> I said, "I think you're a cat."

[00:58:20]You think you're what did that? Well, they said, "No, I'm not a catfish." Then they asked, "Am I a catfish?" And there then I said, "No, and I proved myself."

[00:58:28]Well, at that point, there's nothing I could really realistically do from there because they're not going to admit they're hunter in any scenario.

[00:58:36]>> So, my only situation in order to properly meet them is to go along with the scenario.

[00:58:43]>> So, you so you wanted to properly meet these individuals.

[00:58:48]>> Yes. Is it because of like what did you want them to have? I wanted to confront them and understand why they do what they do and let them know that by doing what they do, if they give the impression that the audience is somehow ready for whatever adults have in store for them, >> okay, >> that impression, then the people who go to those people who give those impressions, they might stop talking to them and go to the actual audience where they will if they and take advantage of that.

[00:59:23]>> Okay. But at any point in time, did you admit to sending like a message saying that you wanted to I'm just paraphrasing the message.

[00:59:36]Did you say that?

[00:59:44]>> I don't know if I can I don't know what I can say.

[00:59:48]to it, man.

[00:59:49]>> Well, because I understand you're under the impression that >> I'm I'm going by, okay? I'm going by the messages that I saw. I want to know like, did you send something like that?

[00:59:58]I'll help along those lines.

[00:59:59]>> See, but that's the thing. I need to know what you know, what you think.

[01:00:03]Because if I >> I need to tell you what I think. I need to tell I I'm telling you what I I'm telling you what I saw.

[01:00:08]>> Okay.

[01:00:08]>> Okay. I'm getting your I want to get your turn. I want >> Okay. So So then if you already know, then I can say yes.

[01:00:14]>> Okay. Thank you. All you really need to hear.

[01:00:16]>> We'll see. You're going to be talking on camera.

[01:00:18]>> Yes, it is. Everything's being recorded.

[01:00:20]Okay.

[01:00:22]So, >> and I know he's still recording.

[01:00:24]>> Okay. But under this whole So, right now, right now, you're claiming that you only came here because you know for a fact that they were hunters and that you wanted to meet them just to get their idea about why they do what they do.

[01:00:36]Correct.

[01:00:37]>> So, you went along with the whole thing, >> correct?

[01:00:40]>> Under the Okay. You never Why didn't you ever say, "Oh, I'm done talking to you."

[01:00:45]just click out of the site >> because I wanted to under I wanted to meet them. I wanted I wanted to have people that I could I wanted to have Sorry, my hair's blind.

[01:00:59]I wanted to have people that I could come and talk to and I guess relate to >> cuz I understand where they're coming from. I do.

[01:01:09]>> Okay.

[01:01:10]>> I want what they want. I want to protect Okay. So, you came here on the basis basically like you you have the same goals as they do.

[01:01:22]>> Yes. And I think the way they go about doing what they do is giving rise to the to the wrong ideas.

[01:01:33]>> Okay. What's the wrong idea? that because because they go and tell people that because they go and tell people that they are and get them to do things like maybe send I do not send but let's say they let's say they entice those people to do so they are enticing them to commit crime and let's say they stop talking let's say the the person who committed the crime stops talking to Okay, then that means the person who did already commit crime for sure because they thought that the was actually they have the wrong idea that the person is like other underage people. Therefore putting that I don't put other people in danger.

[01:02:33]Get your ID on you.

[01:02:38]>> Hey, what's your first name?

[01:02:39]>> Kane. K I E.

[01:02:41]>> Is there any weapons or anything on you?

[01:02:43]Just >> No, you can search you can search me if you need to.

[01:02:45]>> All right. Can you just be I'm going to pat you down real quick just so while you keep talking to him. Nothing going to stick us or anything?

[01:02:50]>> No.

[01:02:51]>> Already on the other side.

[01:02:55]>> He said there's nothing in here either.

[01:02:57]You don't mind if I look in there? It's going to be hard to close.

[01:03:00]>> Okay. Thank you, sir.

[01:03:06]There you go.

[01:03:46]Sorry.

[01:03:48]I'm not telling you that I need it now.

[01:03:49]Now, I'm just saying that I really would like to take a bath if I'm being arrested before I go.

[01:04:06]So, okay.

[01:04:08]>> Okay.

[01:04:13]>> Okay. So, how many messages like did you just did you just talk to each other on the side or did you all each other on phone?

[01:04:22]>> Okay. On the phone.

[01:04:24]>> Okay. to obviously got messages on the side. There's also you actually talking on the phone.

[01:04:28]>> Correct.

[01:04:29]>> Okay. So, when you were on the phone, you told like, okay, you're you're still under you're still under belief that they're that they're not that they're not really the person you're talking to. Correct.

[01:04:45]You believe that they're a fake person.

[01:04:46]>> Correct.

[01:04:46]>> Okay. But you also admit that you wanted to talk about taking their Correct.

[01:04:52]>> Okay. You also talk Okay. I'm also paraphrasing. I saw something along the lines like you wanted to feel their around your is that something like you said too, >> right?

[01:05:01]>> So you said all that stuff.

[01:05:02]>> Yeah. And you already have it.

[01:05:03]>> Yeah. So but you're saying this bec but any point in time did you ever say like you know what I'm like you said yeah you said you wanted to come here to kind of get their to kind of meet them be like yeah I want to get their idea you know I want because I want to protect too you know I get that. Okay. I really do. Okay. But I'm I'm kind of curious like you came like so you came here specifically for that like okay did you ever have any ulterior motives?

[01:05:29]>> No.

[01:05:29]>> So if there wasn't So let's say hypothetically we can only talk about hypotheticals all the time but I'm going to throw one out. Okay. You've been cool with me the entire time.

[01:05:37]>> Yeah.

[01:05:38]>> Okay. Say there was say there wasn't girl here says yes I am this person that you talked to.

[01:05:46]>> I would have done nothing except maybe walk around in the park there.

[01:05:49]>> Really?

[01:05:49]>> Yes. I would have walked around to the park. She was like, "Oh, but you said all these things to me, you know, say you want to take my I want you to take my," you know, >> I understand.

[01:05:58]>> Okay. So, we can talk, but let's take So, let's take the hypothetical out. But you But so, you were admitting to make basically saying, "Yeah, I want to I want to take your I want to push you against the wall. I want to hold your hands while I do this." You okay, you say you want to um basically, like I said, my previous statement, you said you want to fill her up. Okay. Again, paraphrasing, my heart was with your you said all those things, correct?

[01:06:23]>> Oh, that's really handy to know. Thank you. I didn't know I had a code.

[01:06:27]>> But you said all those things, correct?

[01:06:29]>> Yes.

[01:06:30]>> On your phone, >> right? Or on your messages, >> correct?

[01:06:33]>> Okay. Is you feel like showing your phone?

[01:06:36]>> Uh, no, because I do have other private conversations.

[01:06:39]>> Okay. You don't want to show me that specific that specific phone?

[01:06:42]>> I mean, I could show you that specific conversation.

[01:06:44]>> That's fine.

[01:06:45]>> Okay. Can I grab my phone? I need to ask because I don't want to reach.

[01:06:48]>> Yeah, you can just pull up that like just wait till you pull up that specific conversation.

[01:06:52]>> Okay, hold on.

[01:06:52]>> Okay. And then you don't have to show me the others. It's all I just care about that specific conversation.

[01:07:01]>> So this is the conversation. Okay. So this is the bottom.

[01:07:08]>> Okay.

[01:07:09]>> Scroll up as much as you need.

[01:07:16]And you're the one in blue.

[01:07:17]>> Yes. Okay.

[01:07:27]>> Do you need me to pack my stuff again?

[01:07:32]>> Probably not as good as me, though. No, you got that.

[01:07:37]>> I'm really good at Tetris.

[01:07:40]Any chance I can stay? Man, >> you gave me permission earlier on and now you're saying no.

[01:07:52]>> It's kind of frustrating, man.

[01:07:55]>> Well, some new things have developed here.

[01:07:56]>> Okay, so do me a favor, Kenny. Is that helpful?

[01:08:00]>> Okay, >> turn around. Put your hand back. Okay, I do reserve the right turn.

[01:08:13]He was down but he wasn't serving.

[01:08:15]>> Okay.

[01:08:16]>> Ask a question.

[01:08:25]>> Should have came to meet for >> I didn't.

[01:08:27]>> Yes, you did.

[01:08:28]>> No, you gave that impression.

[01:08:30]>> Well, should not have came to an to meet.

[01:08:36]Look, it's not about who they send it to about who they are.

[01:08:41]>> No, it doesn't. That's not what the law cares about.

[01:08:45]Doesn't matter. You can say it's a fantasy. You're sick and you need help.

[01:08:49]You came to meet old and old.

[01:08:53]>> I did not.

[01:08:54]>> Yes, you. What do you mean? Of course you did.

[01:08:57]>> You came to meet old.

[01:09:01]>> You are sick.

[01:09:03]That's right.

[01:09:14]>> Shout out to Pasco County. Uh, absolutely incredible officers came out here, handled business.

[01:09:22]He wants to act innocent like he was fantasizing in a kink. Well, absolutely not. This man is sick and needs to be held accountable.

[01:09:36]Your attorney can do >> I got a better one.

[01:10:06]Shout out to PCI for the decoy catching this monster. Good work.

[01:10:15]Shout out to Eric.

[01:10:44]Yo.

[01:10:47]>> Yo, shout out to Pasco County. First catch out here. Absolutely incredible law enforcement doing the right thing.

[01:10:53]Uh, can't thank him enough. Shout out to Eric from PCI. Shout out to my man Chris for making this drive 5 hours, guys. Uh, let me see. Let me turn this around. But yeah, guys, 26-year-old Kane came to meet what he thought was and he's going away. Guys, >> do you have your ID?

[01:11:10]>> Yes, sir.

[01:11:11]>> All right, guys. Peace.

[01:11:12]>> I'm going to do it.

[01:11:13]>> All right, guys. Thanks for watching the video. I'm not sure if you guys could tell, but like I was saying in the beginning, uh, very hard catch for me.

[01:11:20]Uh, just having a conversation with him, getting the right words out. Uh, this guy had me just fuming on the inside.

[01:11:27]So, it was very hard for me to talk, very hard for me to just even carry a conversation on with him, as you guys could tell. Um, this one was just wild.

[01:11:36]I I mean, this was our first road trip, I guess you could say, as a as a team, Chris and I. Uh, first time we actually, you know, went on such a, you know, long drive. Uh, I know other catchers travel all the time and it's nothing, but for us, uh, you know, you guys, this isn't a full-time thing for me. I do this when I can. So, uh, this definitely was a first and, uh, I think we, you know, we're going to plan on venturing out from, you know, after our experience traveling on this one, uh, and and getting to experience how other cops operate. Uh, I think it's something that we're going to plan on doing here in the near future and setting some decoys out in, uh, different counties around us. And we're going to start traveling a a little bit.

[01:12:14]But, uh, back to this guy. I mean, you guys could tell, you know, you could tell what I'm talking about. just half the stuff we can we can't even let you guys hear it. We have a bleep it out obviously because of YouTube and um I don't think you guys really want to hear it. It's it's just not it's not an easy thing to listen to. But um yeah, what is interesting about this uh his mother reached out to me and thanked me uh personally for catching him and holding him accountable, holding him accountable and said, you know, she hopes that he gets the help he needs. I guess they don't talk. She has a restraining order on him. But, uh, yeah, guys, I mean, his own mother saying it, I think it's pretty clear that this guy's dangerous and needs help and needs to be, you know, put away from the public in my opinion. Uh, but, uh, yeah, guys, this this one was just not an easy one. As you guys could see, it was hard to talk, but shout out to Pasco County, guys. Uh, the whole community got behind. Uh we you know we threw some little little clips of this out on social media and the entire community got behind it guys.

[01:13:21]So uh shout out to Pasco County. You guys were you guys are awesome strong community. I mean everybody in the area was sharing everything on Facebook and uh it was really Yeah, it was just it was really good guys. Um and you guys make sure you're following on Facebook.

[01:13:37]Uh you guys can it's at 561 Precatcher and also my Facebook Dustin Lampros. I upload a lot of the content there as well. sometimes before I put it on YouTube. But uh yeah, guys, thank you guys for the support. Shout out to you guys for uh helping this video circulate and reach everybody it needed to reach.

[01:13:55]Uh it definitely put, you know, everyone in that community uh on notice and they appreciated it. So, you know, thank you guys for all the support. Uh shout out to my man Chris, shout out to my man Eric from PCI. Uh couldn't do done it without those guys. And uh yeah, guys, uh can't thank you guys enough for everything. You guys make sure you're checking out our merch, 561PC.com.

[01:14:18]Got some cool stuff on there. And uh again, all the people that sent donations on the trip over there. Uh you guys, it helped out so much. It It makes it so much easier for us to be able to go and do these things in the middle of our, you know, our week. Uh so it helps out a ton. We we can't thank you guys enough. But yeah, guys, let's keep shining light on this darkness and let's keep protecting the children. 561 PC.