Flat Earther Pulls an Answer Out of Nowhere and It's Hilarious

Added: 2026-06-04

[00:00:00]Over the past several months, we've been looking at flat earth Dave's appearance on the Bradley TV podcast. It's been quite the eye opener so far. But Dave is about to move on to gravity. And this is where he really comes into his own.

[00:00:25]Hello all and welcome along to another episode of Flat Earth Friday with me, Simon Dan. Thanks very much for joining me. Right, then on with today's video, which as you'll know from the intro, features flatearther David Vice. This is part eight from his interview on the Bradley TV podcast. To see all the previous seven parts, I've linked all those in the description. You can check them out afterwards. Today, Dave wants to tell us about what he thinks gravity really is. Get ready for this one, people. Here we go.

[00:00:53]>> So, they tell us everything that they're doing. They tell us that gravity is fake by saying that the electrostatic force is 10 to the 36 power, another number you can't fathom, stronger than gravity, which means gravity doesn't exist.

[00:01:06]That does not follow at all, David. One force being stronger does not make the weaker one disappear. Electrostatic forces can attract or repel. So in big objects, they mostly cancel out. Gravity only attracts. It always adds together.

[00:01:23]Well, obviously then what is it? What sticks?

[00:01:27]>> It's electrostatics. Everything has an electrostatic charge. The Earth is a neutral or negative charge. The sky has a positive charge. And anything off the ground is surrounded by the positive charge. Since the Earth isn't moving, it says down is this way. And then buoyancy and density sort everything else out. If I had a helium balloon, ping pong balls, and marbles, and I held them over a swimming pool and opened my hand, the balloon's going to go up because it's less dense than the air. The marbles and ping balls will go down because they're more dense in the air. The marbles will go to the bottom of the pool because they're more dense than the water.

[00:01:56]That's buoyancy and density. Down is down because of the electrostatic charge. Dave's electrostatic solution here has some serious problems. If Earth had a giant electric field that was pulling things down, different materials would fall differently. Charge would matter enormously, and you'd get shocks, sparks, and interference everywhere. But in a vacuum, a feather and a hammer fall together.

[00:02:21]So that's gravity. The key problem here, though, is that density is not a force.

[00:02:26]Saying something falls because it's dense is like saying a car moves because it's fast. You've skipped the thing that's actually causing it.

[00:02:36]>> Lightning sometimes strikes down next to somebody and they go flying in the air.

[00:02:39]Did it turn off gravity or did it just change the polarity of the earth for a split second?

[00:02:44]No, that means a massive electrical discharge hit the body or ground. When lightning strikes nearby, people can be thrown by force. It is not electrostatics reversing. And if Earth's polarity did flip for a split second, compasses, electronics, and power systems will go haywire globally. But guess what? They don't.

[00:03:06]>> The XRT3B triangular aircraft is lifts and propels itself with electrostatics.

[00:03:12]We should all have flying cars that run on free energy right now. But they're hiding everything from us. They're hiding more land, in my opinion. They're hiding free energy. They're hiding our divinity. They're hiding our true potential. They're hiding resources. Why the lie? Why do they go to war for all of these things? And this is just in our minds. They literally blindfold us.

[00:03:33]>> The TR3B triangular aircraft claim that Dave's talking about here has never actually been backed by evidence. No verified documents, no demonstrated technology, no working electrostatic propulsion system. But just on what you said at the end there, Dave, they're hiding. It isn't evidence. It's what you say when you don't have any.

[00:03:55]>> What about flat earth maps that match actual flight times?

[00:04:02]>> So I I coming through the airport. Um where what airport was I? There was, you know, the the the walkways, the the moving sidewalks. This was a really long one, right? And so, um, somebody was walking down the the walkway and they started at the same time as me. They were on the regular non-moving floor and I'm on the moving floor. We're both walking at the same pace, but I went twice the distance that he did in the same amount of time.

[00:04:29]So you could say, well, I'm going from Santiago to Australia and he's going from California to Spain, right? And so I went twice the distance in the same amount of time. Same thing's up in the sky. There's there's moving currents of air circling around 350 mph in some cases, and these southern flights go in those air currents, and they they take advantage of those wind speeds. What Dave is basically saying here is that southern flights only work because giant air currents are secretly carrying planes. Okay then, but those same flights should surely then take much longer in reverse on the way back, shouldn't they? But they don't. And pilots already account for winds anyway, Dave. Pilots use realtime wind data every single day. Flight planning already includes tailwinds and headwinds. This is not a secret. Yeah, but if you go from Sydney to Santiago, it's 14 hours direct flight, >> right?

[00:05:31]>> Flat Earth, it should be 25 hours.

[00:05:34]>> No, because it's going much faster.

[00:05:37]First, planes don't go just 500 miles an hour. The the the um the Boeing Dreamlininer that is the one that does that flight can go like 650 mph. Throw a 350 mph tailwind on it, now it's going 1,000 mph.

[00:05:50]>> Okay, Dave, great. But when it flies home, then its ground speed would only be 300 mph, wouldn't it? How do you account for that? But also, 1,000 mph doesn't even solve your problem. The distance between Santiago and Sydney on a flat Earth AE map is around 24,000 mi.

[00:06:07]1,000 mph is still 24 hours, Dave. In order to get your 14 hours, you need a speed of around 1,700 mph. And no commercial airliner is doing that, Dave.

[00:06:18]And the other one that's going the other plane in the north that's going half the distance.

[00:06:22]>> Oh, it would be going north.

[00:06:23]>> No, no, the other plane another flight um in the northern hemisphere that's doing a route that on the globe is the same distance, but a flat earth is half the distance. It's going half the speed.

[00:06:33]>> Yeah. But on a globe, it's 14 hours and that is what it is. On a flat earth, if you >> It's longer, but it has that moving sidewalk of air. What does >> the the airplane is flying in these southern these southern winds >> there? So, so what you're saying is then then then why wouldn't they be in that wind on a globe?

[00:06:53]>> Because all of the airlines are run by NASA. NASA is in charge of all of the the routes. All all of the international flight routes.

[00:07:04]>> What? NASA has nothing to do with commercial flight routing. NASA is a space agency. Dave, no single organization controls global flight routes. Let me explain to you how it works, Dave. Airlines will plan routes based on a variety of factors. Countries will control their own airspace through aviation authorities. Air traffic controllers guide aircraft through controlled airspace. And international standards are coordinated by the AO, which sets rules so countries can work together safely. What you said just there to get out of a jam, Dave, is one of the funniest and most desperate things I've ever heard a flat earther say. But if you look at at the at the winds the wind I'm just trying to find that where it is. So this is this is a map of the wind speeds at different heights and those red winds are like 200 300 mph winds. So if you were you know it's like it's like if you were in a river swimming downstream and somebody was in a pool next to the river who's going to swim faster? You are.

[00:08:11]>> Yeah.

[00:08:11]>> Yeah. That's it.

[00:08:13]>> And what happens if you want to swim back up river, Dave? Who's swimming faster then? I also noticed there's some of those high-speed red wind routes on the flat Earth northern hemisphere, too.

[00:08:25]Do the northern flights just dodge those?

[00:08:28]>> How about why do southern hemisphere stars rotate in the opposite direction around a different pole?

[00:08:34]So, we're told that um in the south the stars rotate clockwise and in the north they rotate counterclockwise.

[00:08:42]It's false. It's not true. We're told it. We just believe it. So, if you're here in the north and we go out tonight and we look at the northern at the north star, we're going to see the stars going from our right shoulder to our left shoulder around Polaris. That's counterclockwise, right? So, it's coming up this way. So, we're going to turn We're going to turn around. We're going to turn around and now we're looking south and they're going clockwise. Same direction, same. It's just the direction that you're facing. We're told that it's exclusive to the north and the south, but it's not true at all.

[00:09:14]>> Turning around changes your perspective.

[00:09:17]Changing hemispheres changes the sky.

[00:09:19]Those are not the same thing. The actual claim is this. In the southern hemisphere, whilst looking south, stars rotate in a different direction than in the northern hemisphere looking north.

[00:09:29]When you face the celestial pole, the stars rotate in different directions.

[00:09:33]End of story. You simply cannot debunk this, Dave.

[00:09:37]>> Why does the angle to Polaris exactly match your latitude?

[00:09:42]Because if you and I were in a Home Depot, a giant Home Depot, and we're gonna expand it several miles wide, and we're there's random lights in the ceiling, and we're standing under one light and with that's the North Star, and look, I could see a penguin, and I could see a dinosaur, and yeah, I could see that, too. And then you go walking down aisle six and you go for a couple miles. I can't see you anymore. I call you on the phone. I say, "Hey, look up. Do you see the penguin?

[00:10:08]You see the dinosaur?" You're like, "No, I see completely different stars."

[00:10:11]Right. And as you walk away, that star the that that light, that northern star is going to get lower and lower and lower and lower, and then it's just going to merge into the floor, probably less than a mile away.

[00:10:22]>> His Home Depot analogy here does not work. If Polaris was a nearby ceiling light, the angle would change nonlinearly. You'd get dramatic drops nearby and slower changes further away.

[00:10:33]Now, that's basic perspective. Instead, Polaris drops at a perfectly predictable rate. One degree of latitude equals one degree of change in Polaris's altitude.

[00:10:44]Exactly. And everywhere on his model, Polaris would eventually become too low to see because of perspective. But it doesn't. People thousands of miles apart still measure angles that perfectly match latitude. Dear, oh dear, Dave, this podcast just gets worse and worse for you, doesn't it? And that's where we're going to leave Dave and his friend for today as we wrap up another flat Earth Friday. Thanks so much for watching. As ever, if you enjoyed it, please do consider subscribing to the channel, hitting the thumbs up button, too. Be much appreciated. And please let me know in the comments what you thought of the claims from Dave in this episode.

[00:11:16]I've been Simon Dan. Have yourselves a great day, and I'll see you all tomorrow for another Saturday session. See you then.