Southern Hospitality S4E08: Fall Out Girl

Added: 2026-05-06

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[00:00:39]Today is Southern Hospitality, season 4, episode 8.

[00:00:43]What's it called? My Chemical Bromance.

[00:00:49]I have really never been happier to not be part of a trend like I have been not being part of the emo scene. Gosh, I watched this episode and I was like, I am so glad that that like I missed this window. I was already like an adult, you know? Like it made me so happy.

[00:01:09]It's a long window though, right? Cuz they did it on Vanderpump Rules like 2 years ago.

[00:01:14]Yeah, I mean, I guess like I guess like the I mean, emo was a was a big thing, but I'm just saying like I'm glad that when I was in high school like the vibes were more like uh grunge.

[00:01:25]>> [laughter] >> Oh, so you meant you meant back then the emo thing was >> Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah.

[00:01:31]Yeah, like I was already >> when I was young, but I was already emo, so to me it was just a bunch of fakers.

[00:01:37]I was like, I've been doing this since since I was a baby. Now you guys just put on some eyeliner and it's a movement. Get the [ __ ] out of here.

[00:01:44]Yeah, cuz I feel like emo is sort of like a more diluted grunge, a more diluted goth mixed together or just make like largely generic music. I mean, I definitely have some emo songs in my my library, you know, I've got some got some Yellowcard. I've got like Hoobastank, you know, I've got all those things. But like just so glad I never got caught up in the spiky hair [ __ ] and the mascara. I'm like, ugh, it just feels Yes, I have a fauxhawk. I had a fauxhawk in 2005 that was never quite properly formed.

[00:02:17]>> Yeah.

[00:02:18]It was not a triumph, but uh >> Actually, yeah, I guess I remember I didn't know you then, but I've seen pictures of you, yeah, with a fauxhawk.

[00:02:25]>> like a little peak. It was like a little It was like a little something.

[00:02:28]>> [laughter] >> It was like a little bird's nest.

[00:02:31]But I never quite like shaved the side of my head, so it didn't quite look like a fauxhawk. It just looked like my hair just sort of like rose up, you know?

[00:02:39]Yeah, I had a moment in my 20s where I was like combat and in high school actually where I was like combat boots and all black and like I wore a long black trench coat and I had really long black hair that was curly and then I could like sometimes put up. Like let's face it, like the look was not great. Um but back then that wasn't really a thing.

[00:03:00]But um yeah, it that was a look and I remember I went to my sister's college. She went She spent her first year in Lubbock and that is like real like Texasy cowboy Texasy and I was walking through a Walmart dressed like that and people were like, what the [ __ ] is that piece of [ __ ] walking in our Walmart?

[00:03:19]But um I don't know if that was emo or not. Was it? I guess it's close.

[00:03:24]Right. No, I really loved my Docs though. I had to like make a look to work with the Docs cuz I just really wanted those Docs. So bad.

[00:03:31]Definitely a mid-aughts look.

[00:03:33]Yeah.

[00:03:33]>> At least we earned it back then, you know? Like we felt it. We were like emo.

[00:03:37]These people didn't earn it.

[00:03:39]Yeah, like My Chemical Romance.

[00:03:42]Yeah, moshing to like uh Fall Out Boy, whatever.

[00:03:46]Um uh before we start the show, shout-out to the Fixing Famous People podcast, Krista Rose and Dominic Puopolo. Thank you for having me on.

[00:03:56]Uh that episode is now live and uh we talk about Mischa Barton and her life and times, my experiences with her, and how we can fix her, get her back on the right track. It was a really really fun and funny podcast. So, go check that out wherever you listen to podcasts. Thanks for having me on, guys.

[00:04:16]>> check it out. Oh, and tell people where to vote for your board game podcast, too, because there were confused people in comments yesterday trying to find it.

[00:04:24]Okay, so um a few things on that. So, it's at the The website is boardgamegeek.com and then you just do uh {slash} golden geek.

[00:04:37]boardgamegeek.com/goldengeek.

[00:04:40]But the thing is this, if you want to vote, what I've now learned is you do have to be a member of the website and then you have to have a thing called like geek gold. So, honestly, if it's like too much of a pain, like don't bother. I get it. I didn't I'm not trying to get everyone to sign up for things and whatever. Uh geek gold is like the currency >> to vote for the geek thing, you see? Yeah, and like I don't know. I have geek gold that I can give people, but I don't know if that's {quote} {unquote} ethical for an award like an awards thing for me to be like, here's here's some geek gold.

[00:05:11]>> votes with the geek gold. I don't know if that's right to do. So, like if you can't do it, it's fine. I will not be offended. Like I appreciate I appreciate the people who messaged me about it, I appreciate it, but like please don't spend any I don't know if it costs money to get the geek gold. I just sort of I If you contribute a lot to those forums, you just sort of naturally get it cuz people just have it. It's weird. I don't know how it works, but like please don't spend any money if they That's a thing. Cuz someone said like, I I donated to the site to get geek gold, but it still wouldn't let me do it. I'm like, please don't spend money to do this.

[00:05:42]>> Oh, no. Oh gosh.

[00:05:43]If you happen to be a member already or whatever, I would appreciate your vote, but don't go above and beyond in my pursuit of my own personal egots.

[00:05:53]Uh I I appreciate the sentiment nonetheless.

[00:05:56]Okay.

[00:05:57]>> They should make it easier. I don't know why they do that.

[00:06:00]Well, you know, I've always said the same thing about taxes.

[00:06:04]So, here we go. Um Mia is doing laser hair removal.

[00:06:09]We got to watch you to win that thing.

[00:06:11]Thank you. You know, I want you to be like we're not just some Bravo podcast.

[00:06:15]Ben has a geek. He has a golden geek.

[00:06:19]I also record a podcast with several middle-aged straight men, guys.

[00:06:24]We talk about cards and dice.

[00:06:27]>> [laughter] >> That's my man. So, uh Mia is doing at-home laser hair. I've always wondered how this works cuz I have one of those things and I was like, ow, and I didn't even do it on my nuts. But she was doing it on her bikini line and you know, it screamed every time that it zapped her, but I don't know, it gave me some kind of strength. I was like, maybe I can try again. Not Not really on my nuts. I don't know if you're supposed to use it on your nuts. But I've tried it like on my, you know, shoulders or wherever I'm starting to get like little old man hairs coming up.

[00:07:01]Um but I think I did it wrong, but maybe I didn't do it wrong cuz I screamed. So, I guess that's what you have to do. I'll try it next time in the bathtub.

[00:07:08]So, um she FaceTimes with TJ who's in New York and he's like, "Oh my god, it's so nice to be out of Charleston. We're going to gay meeting and we're going to gay bars and stuff." And um it's going to be crazy. We're going to find some guys. And you know, I want to hear about the paint and sip though. And uh she's like, "Those [ __ ] girls, they're like ridiculous. Like I'm It's like in middle school. Like like you held hands with my boyfriend. I don't like you." It's like, "This whole [ __ ] I'm dipped out. I dipped out. I dipped out."

[00:07:33]What? Like what do you mean dipped out?

[00:07:35]She's like, "That's it." Oh, got you.

[00:07:37]Wait, did you really need that clarification, TJ? Wait, when you said dipped out, did you mean that you went and bought like a lot of dip and then you ran out? She's like, "No, I meant that I'm done with it." Oh, okay. Just want to be sure. Thanks.

[00:07:47]So, she says, "This whole Justin thing, I'm done with it. I'm over it at this point. I don't need all this drama. I got other things to focus on. You know, I've got athlete DMs to answer back to.

[00:07:56]Hehe."

[00:07:58]Um and she's like, "I'm just so jealous that you're in New York. If I were there, I would have had six boyfriends by now." He's like, "Yeah, me too. I I I don't I don't have any boyfriends, but that's okay. I'll bring you back some dumplings from New York. You like You're down with some soggy old dumplings, right?

[00:08:14]Right?

[00:08:15]>> Yeah, I feel like if I ever got DMs from an athlete, they would just say something like "Please stop trying."

[00:08:23]>> [laughter] >> Or like, "Some people just weren't born for this."

[00:08:27]The end.

[00:08:28]>> think I'm I don't think I'm ever going to get a DM from an athlete. That's That's just like not in my cards.

[00:08:34]>> [laughter] >> I don't know what that would even be like.

[00:08:37]Uh so, a guy on a a guy with a baby stroller passes and he's like, "Excuse you, you're in the middle of the [ __ ] walkway. Look around." She says, "You're the one walking your baby through a busy street, sir. I'm calling child services."

[00:08:52]And in TJ's defense, TJ was a little bit off to the side.

[00:08:55]Like there was plenty of room for you and your baby vehicle, sir. But I did laugh also. Um Um so then we see Michaels and he's like arriving with his talent manager, Corey, and he's Corey's like, "Hi, welcome to New York. How was your flight?" He's like, "Um it was honestly like not so bad. Like I made out with all the people in my row. It was like kind of amazing, like very liberating. Like it was a little weird when I like took off my shirt like in the middle of landing, but like everyone was down with it. It was pretty cool though.

[00:09:24]>> [laughter] >> I wish my mom was there to see it.

[00:09:27]Um [snorts] so, he's like, "Okay, we've got photos from the Soda gay shoot. Okay, this is the cover. It is you standing extremely awkwardly in a gigantic shoulder-padded blazer."

[00:09:40]We just look at him and he's like, "That is Soda gay."

[00:09:46]>> [laughter] >> Michaels like, "Oh my god.

[00:09:50]That's like sick. Oh my god." She says, "This will be your first cover." He's like, "I love it."

[00:09:57]Like I'm and I think it's like giving old Hollywood glamour.

[00:10:01]Can someone remind me what actually is old Hollywood glamour? I just sort of said it. Is this Oh, I take it back.

[00:10:06]This is not giving old Hollywood glamour. This has looks nothing like old Hollywood glamour.

[00:10:11]I was going to say what who could you name one name one old Hollywood glamour person that this reminds you of?

[00:10:18]>> [laughter] >> I was like yo, I was sitting there and I was like that's not like me. That's like face app. You know like when you do a face app version of yourself and it's like sick. This was like that but like it was me. It was like so hot. I was like [ __ ] you're hot as [ __ ] It's called retouching and airbrushing.

[00:10:35]You basically did get the face.

[00:10:36]>> Yeah, it's the original it's the original okay. Before there were apps there were actually people who sat there and painted [laughter] your face.

[00:10:44]The apps the apps are based off of the process of doing your face for magazine covers. Like oh my God like oh this is like amazing. Like my body looks so T.

[00:10:56]Okay, so there's like a couple more meetings I want to set up for you. We had one minor setback where one of the brands had to cancel because it's a popular dating app and they were ready to offer deal but it turned out you'd been banned from the platform. So what the hell did you do to do that? He's like oh my God I don't even remember why. Um.

[00:11:19]Yeah, I like don't know like I actually don't remember what I did to get myself banned but um.

[00:11:26]It's like were you posting nudes posting nudes? He's like um oh my God that's so T right now.

[00:11:35]So. Okay, well we're going to try and get you reinstated and try and get that deal but you know like you were so professional on set and you know influencer managers heard about that at Men's Wearhouse. Men's Wearhouse actually has a bulletin out where if anyone hears of well-behaved models weeding Men's Wearhouse and Men's Wearhouse heard about it and they want you. They love well-behaved models.

[00:11:59]So you get to do a Men's Wearhouse thing.

[00:12:02]We're in a little bit of a a little bit of a pickle here though because that's so gay magazine found out that you're doing a Men's Wearhouse campaign and they would like to revoke your cover. So.

[00:12:14]They said it. Send them my send them my dick. Send them my dick though. Just send them my dick. Wait.

[00:12:20]Okay, we'll do that. It's like no this actually is like so good because like I actually like wear a suit for work and like the suit I wear is actually from Men's Wearhouse. It's like so amazing.

[00:12:33]Corey's like oh my God there you go.

[00:12:34]Proud of you. Congratulations. By the way that's gross.

[00:12:38]Um but you know what you just got a national campaign. So let's go baby.

[00:12:42]So now we go to Joe's apartment and he's on the phone coordinating his his emo night party and he's like all right yeah okay I'm going to try to sell as many tickets as possible and he's talking to a girl named Cameron which makes me think there's only one girl named Cameron in Charleston. So clearly it's Cameron from original Southern Charm and she's like okay you stupid face. Do you really think you're going to throw a party with 300 people? Okay, we'll see about that.

[00:13:08]Bye now. Bye. Bye.

[00:13:12]He's like you're the best Cammy. Do not call me Cammy. I'm not your mother or your sister. My name is Cameron. Do you understand?

[00:13:20]Man child. Cameron now excuse me I have Shepherd on the other line.

[00:13:25]So.

[00:13:27]>> [laughter] >> Maddie is like Joe.

[00:13:30]I'm coming over. Let's talk.

[00:13:32]Okay. I haven't talked or or I haven't talking to or slept in the same bed with Maddie in like a week. I just can't believe it's been so long since I've talking to her. So like this is like never happened. Like it's been like a nightmare. Like turning 30 alone is like making me freak the [ __ ] out. Like on top of that you know like >> [laughter] >> What?

[00:13:54]Turning 30 alone. It's so hard.

[00:13:57]>> [laughter] >> Turning 30 alone. Shut up. I don't want to die alone.

[00:14:01]>> [snorts] >> I could die I'm 30 now. Yeah, I could be you never know what's going to old age could just put me under you know like I've spent so much money on this and I like I'm putting so much like stuff into this party. Like I just want to I don't want to have to be worried about our relationship.

[00:14:15]So then Maddie is coming so he hears her coming and he's like >> [snorts] >> like trying to cry and look really sad.

[00:14:23]He's like to shoveling himself trying to look really sad.

[00:14:27]So come on.

[00:14:28]>> These two just like crack me up. So Maddie walks into this house that she presumably has been in many times. She walks in and doesn't see Joe anywhere in this lofted house. It's like a single story apartment with a loft. She's looking around she's like Joe Joe where's Joe? Did he fall down a well?

[00:14:42]He's like I'm up here. Huh? Where? Huh?

[00:14:46]He's in the walls. Stranger things. He's in the guys Joe's in the underneath.

[00:14:50]He's in the upside down. He's in the whatever the whatever. Guys we got to save Joe. I'm like just go up the stairs. Okay, is that the voice coming from Maddie?

[00:14:56]>> [laughter] >> He's right up the stairs. You'll be okay.

[00:14:59]He's he's up there.

[00:15:01]>> [laughter] >> Yeah, so she goes up and she goes oh my God Joe. I don't like your outfit. White on cream? What are you doing Joe? Like how are you showing people that you're ready to run a bar when you're wearing white on cream?

[00:15:16]Well, my inspiration was that I got a latte with like I got like it was like a vanilla latte with foam. So like my body is like that my legs are like the the body of the latte and the top is like I get it Joe. I understand. I'm not I'm just saying it's fine on a drink it's not good for an outfit. God you're out of control. You're spiraling. White on cream. Ugh. I'm sorry that I'm about to turn 30 alone and I'm not really thinking about my outfit.

[00:15:40]Okay?

[00:15:41]I just need like my best friend my girlfriend. She's like yeah. I just want you to be there for me this week cuz I'm not in a good place. She goes you know what? Like okay. I'm sorry for seeing red sometimes. I would appreciate seeing red right now cuz white on cream seriously Look I love that go. Yeah, but like I'm just like I had a conversation with Levi yesterday and like I got a bunch of like clarity.

[00:16:04]Yeah, clarity on the situation specifically. Uh what situation? The situation of you leaving and saying you're going to work and then like you're leaving and then like going out and like drinking. It's like it's not cute. Like you're turning 30 years old.

[00:16:17]I don't want to do it alone. Quiet Joe.

[00:16:19]Like you need to reel it in. You have a hard time saying no and having boundaries. Um I'm not some crazy alcoholic. I don't appreciate the way you phrased that but go on. I'm just like very professional. I like I'm not one of these crazy kooky weirdo like strange people who's an alcoholic. You know what I'm saying Maddie? Please Joe stop trying to say it that way. Okay, I guess I go out I have a better chance of meeting investors for future location elsewhere other than Republic. Like you're trying to find potential investors for something that doesn't exist. What are you talking about?

[00:16:51]Nobody no potential investor is going to give money to some drunk guy in the club.

[00:16:56]Who's like pitching stupid business >> then. That's what stupid guys do at clubs. They're like hey I got an idea.

[00:17:03]What is my idea? No, I'm not going to give you money for that. So Maddie's like okay so you go out and network and you meet these investors. Where are they? Where are they at Joe? Where are they at? What is this room? Where are we?

[00:17:15]Where is this? Is this a loft?

[00:17:18]Uh Uh well I'm just I just you're like what do you want like you want me to stay home you want me to be a prisoner?

[00:17:24]>> [laughter] >> Such a [ __ ] idiot. First when he said like I'm not some crazy alcoholic I was like why did you just say that to Maddie? And then second of all when he's like you want me to be a prisoner? Like are you just trying to get broken up with right now?

[00:17:37]>> [laughter] >> Okay, how about this? I'll just not have a birthday. I'll just not have been born 30 years ago and then we can just work the whole time. I can go to work instead. Okay? Like I won't have to drop a drink. Like I'll just like I'll just have the best birthday doing nothing and being at work. And just like now she's like Joe I'm not telling you to skip your birthday. Okay? Yeah, no cuz like all these people are coming in town so I'll just be at work. You can just go to my birthday party and be like here's the day that Joe didn't turn 30.

[00:18:03]Why don't you do that?

[00:18:04]>> Yeah. [clears throat] Yeah. Maybe I'll like own a bar by like next week because this will fix everything. She's like okay you're being dramatic and the victim. Okay? He's like I'm being dramatic. Me? I'm being You just put on a cape and a mask. Oh really? And he just knocked over a chandelier. What are you doing Joe? Stop being so dramatic.

[00:18:20]Oh wow. How was the cape even cream colored? It doesn't match Joe.

[00:18:25]Technically it's beige. Well even worse.

[00:18:27]Even worse. Okay Joe no one is thinking about that. You're saying that you're working your birthday like your reality is not reality. Which is funny because he does say fine I'll take my birthday off and I'll go to work. Like you don't take your birth the birth the birthday is not a job that you take off.

[00:18:42]>> [laughter] >> I like that the party is the thing that he takes off and the work is the thing he goes to.

[00:18:48]No you take off work to do your birthday Joe.

[00:18:51]>> [laughter] >> She's like no. You need to take your reality and then you need to like throw it away Joe. Like for example I'm going to pick up this like stupid little nothing off your desk and throw it off the loft. That's what you need to do to just just throw it away. He's like wait I needed that.

[00:19:08]>> [laughter] >> That was my favorite.

[00:19:10]She takes some little thing as like a pencil sharpener like a little pencil sharpener. She's like throws it off her an eraser. He's like I needed that.

[00:19:18]I know.

[00:19:19]>> it's not real life Joe. You're having like a midlife [ __ ] crisis Joe. Like chill Joe. Like come on man. He's like I'm turning 30 in four days. Like that's not a it's not a midlife crisis. This is like a turning 30 crisis. She's like oh my God your dream is this [ __ ] close Joe. You need to prove yourself. I'm like I don't know if you even have the capacity to be able to reel it in Joe.

[00:19:39]Um I clearly do have that or I did have that before you threw my reel downstairs. I just think that like right now my life I'm just like oh you clearly do really? I don't think there's been a weekend where you haven't gone out and you want to move in with me and marry me and do all those things and like I don't really know if I don't really want a boyfriend who's like going out and getting drunk all the time. But it's like crazy to me that you're like attacking me on my birthday week when I'm supposed to be like celebrating.

[00:20:05]Well, can can I tell you it's my birthday week, too?

[00:20:09]Well, that's next week. No, I'm like 4 days after you, Joe. It's in the same week. And you just He just blinks and you watch him try to figure this out.

[00:20:17]He's like I will argue with this somehow.

[00:20:20]No, it's the same 7-day span, Joe. But like when does your week start?

[00:20:26]>> No, it's the same week, Joe. What are you trying You can't use the birthday excuse. It's my birthday, too, Joe. Joe.

[00:20:31]>> Okay, then fine, fine. It's my birthday month. But it's my birthday month, too.

[00:20:36]Wait a minute. That's even more well-defined.

[00:20:38]>> [laughter] >> So like she's like, "Joe, you know what?

[00:20:41]Like I'm trying to hold you accountable cuz I love you, Joe." He's like, "Yeah, but like okay, fine. Like I cope with my like stress and anxiety by like drinking too much. Like okay, I acknowledge it.

[00:20:51]But like when I'm home with you, I don't crave alcohol. But I picked a career path where I've just got to be, you know, around alcohol, you know? And then people are like Joe, that's like the most confident guy in the world. I don't know what he's saying, but like he's really confident. And like it scares the [ __ ] out of me that I can't do without alcohol. So like why are you trying to suggest that I'm an alcoholic?"

[00:21:12]>> [laughter] >> Yeah, it's really hard to feel like I'm at my best socially without alcohol and I just think it's like because been like that since college. Like it hasn't pissed anyone off until now and now it's pissing off the person I love the most.

[00:21:25]He's like, "Look, I'm somebody that can help you maybe set boundaries or someone that you can talk to." Notice I'm saying boundaries all the time ever since Lava said I was really good at boundaries.

[00:21:33]Boundaries, Joe. Yeah. Well, I need your support and sometimes like yelling at me is just like going to make me feel even more defeated. So I would love for you to be like sweet to me this week and like not throw like really important erasers over the side of the balcony.

[00:21:46]Like I'm actually like I don't know, like I'm having like really anxiety because like I need to do a [ __ ] ton of things by the end of the day for like my event. Like I've got to like erase a whole bunch of pencil things and like my my eraser is missing now. Like what am I supposed to do?

[00:22:00]And she's like, "Okay, Joe, how can I help you?"

[00:22:03]Well, you can help by giving me a 20-second hug cuz a 20-second hug decreases stress by No, it decreases anxiety by 20%. God, Joe.

[00:22:13]It's being by the waterfront reduces stress. Hugs are for anxiety. Waterfront is for stress. Did you learn nothing, Joe?

[00:22:20]So she agrees she's going to help him and they're going to get along now.

[00:22:23]Okay. So now on the screen it's 7 hours left of Joe Bradley's 20s and Justin and TJ are walking and talking about New York and how fun it was and now's time for a day shift at Republic >> Yes.

[00:22:39]So Michael's goes up to a table of ladies like, "Um are we interested in getting a bottle with us tonight?" Oh my god, sorry.

[00:22:47]I'm like living in like night life. It's like not even night time. I'm like so sorry. Oh my god, am I going to get banned from another platform?

[00:22:55]>> [laughter] >> And it's I think it's like that same table of older ladies. They just keep coming back.

[00:23:00]>> Okay, wait, you guys got the sparklers again? Give us some sparkler. We love that. That was so funny. We thought [laughter] there was a fire at first.

[00:23:07]You ever try to blow one of those out?

[00:23:11]We actually hit Season in the eye with one of those things. That's why she's not here today.

[00:23:16]Hey, can you get with me us one of a picture of those cocktails? What was that cocktail that Lady Bird Johnson used to always love? One of those. One of those, you know? You know.

[00:23:26]>> [snorts] >> Okay, let's I mean it's like oh my god, we have to we have to like clean and glug off and then we're going to go to Joe's emo party, everybody.

[00:23:36]And Bella's like, "It's not a phase."

[00:23:39]Yeah, it's not a phase, Mom. I mean it.

[00:23:40]They're being like funny about like emo.

[00:23:43]So TJ's like, "Um is Jordan going to come tonight?" And Justin's like, "Um I [ __ ] don't care. Like if she does, she does cuz guess what? I'm already emo. You know what? I'm actually really disappointed that I'm back in the friend zone with Mia. It would've been nice to see where things could've panned out.

[00:24:00]But you know what? Before the peanut gallery gotten got its nasty nasty little hands over it, they ruined it all. Cough cough. Lake.

[00:24:10]Okay, you took 5 minutes to find another girl who's on TV. I mean we see what you're doing, Justin. You're very transparent. He's like, "Well, I couldn't help it that lead of a TV show.

[00:24:21]So, you know, I went out on the strip on King Street and I found another lead of a TV show to be with within 5 minutes."

[00:24:28]So Lake is like, "I'm so excited for tonight, though." They're like, "Oh my god, but like 30? Like he's 30? 30's not even old." And Lake's like, "Yeah, 30's are like sexy."

[00:24:42]And then we see TJ. He's like, "I mean obviously 30 is sexy and 34's even sexier." And he like tries to wink at the camera. He's like, And they're like, "You [clears throat] can't wink." He's like, "No, I I can't I can't No, I I can't wink. I Like TJ, you're just scrunching up your entire face right now.

[00:25:01]Yeah, not a wink. So the girls are like, "Oh my god, he's bringing a date." And Like you're going to be my date, girls.

[00:25:07]It's going to be so fun. And Lake actually has a girl coming. She's dating a girl and TJ's like, "Yeah, I feel like that's very emo of you." And Emmy goes, "Yeah, it's not a phase, Mom." They just keep doing the like Lake goes, "Yeah, it was never a phase.

[00:25:21]Fish tacos for life." And Emmy goes, "Mahi?"

[00:25:25]Like uh not literal fish tacos for life, Emmy.

[00:25:30]It's a girl girl fish. She's like, "I'm not following. I'm sorry. So do you not want the fish tacos? What are you going to have for lunch?"

[00:25:38]It's a metaphor.

[00:25:41]Emmy is blissfully uh oblivious to anything.

[00:25:47]>> [laughter] >> Yeah. She's like, "What kind of fish?"

[00:25:49]>> really cannot. She is not She's just not can't track these progressive things.

[00:25:54]>> [laughter] >> Yeah. Jeez.

[00:25:56]So now we go to Brad's place and Julia calls him and she's like, "I'm fuming right now. I just left from getting my hair done and they were like, 'Hey, I just want to let you know like I've been hearing crazy things about Bradley.' And I was like, 'Okay.' So apparently Emmy goes to the hair salon and is telling everybody that Bradley was stalking her outside of her hotel room in New York drunk banging on her hotel room door while she was naked in the bathroom and terrified." And she's like, "What the [ __ ] Brad? You were not Brad, you would didn't even drink and you were not banging on her door and you were not a threat." And he's like, "Yeah, that didn't happen."

[00:26:31]So she's like, "Somebody's to [ __ ] talk to her, okay? And if your friends can't do it, I'm going to do it." And he's like he gets really upset and he's like, "What the [ __ ] Oh my god, like she's fine." And then she goes home and probably talks to Will or her mom and they destroy whatever peace we've come up with and then she comes back with a totally different attitude.

[00:26:54]Yeah. Also like I think we need TJ to step in as well because wasn't Brad with TJ when they came up out of the elevator and they heard Emmy? Isn't that like part of the story here?

[00:27:04]Like Yeah.

[00:27:05]>> we need TJ to be like, "Emmy, I was with Brad. None of this happened that you're saying and you are you're being really really harmful right now with what you what you're what you're talking about."

[00:27:18]>> right? Because Julia says Julia is talking like she was there, too.

[00:27:22]So Yeah, that's why I think they're all living here but Emmy since this whole thing has been distilled down to Brad and Emmy, you know, stuff.

[00:27:31]It's just so gross. Emmy's like, "God, Emmy, just when you think Emmy can't be more [ __ ] disgusting." Like just Yeah. Can we just mid-fire mid-season fire Emmy? Like get rid of her. What the hell? She's horrible. So um uh Emmy then we cut to Emmy and Emmy's like, "I mean why am I so dramatic? Um because no one is listening to me and I like have to scream from the mountaintops cuz no one will listen.

[00:27:58]Like nobody believes me. Like no matter how I put it. So like I'm just I'm so like I start losing my mind. And that's what's going on. And like I'm alone. I'm made to be crazy and like no one's ever going to believe me. And like I'm back to my like childhood with like raging ADD and it's just like point the finger at Emmy. Point the finger at the Emmy because like the person who's hyperactive is like the easiest one to blame." Oh, okay. So now you're going to start using ADD as your a victim. And people are just doing this because you're like the poor ADD kid. No, Emmy.

[00:28:24]This is like typical typical victim cloaking and ain't nobody going to fall for it, ma'am. This is crazy.

[00:28:31]Yeah, I think the one that's easiest to blame is the one who's going around saying he was making me feel unsafe and was stalking me at my door while I was naked and fabricating lies is probably the easiest one to blame. And that happens to be you as well.

[00:28:43]So Julia is like really mad. Brad's upset. Brad actually is like stepping away from the from production because like and I can only imagine how frustrating it is and disappointing and like it's scary. It's scary to be have someone who's now going around town saying this stuff and painting you a certain way as he's trying to like launch his business and painting him as like scary black man. And and that's what Emmy is doing and it's really [ __ ] up. It's like it's it's like and it keeps on happening. It keeps on going after they've had multiple conversations. And it's just sad. I just feel like the fact that Emmy can't hear this or understand it is just so terrible. For some reason I have this idea that younger people are more open to understanding these concepts than older people. Older people sort of get like locked in their ways and their thinking and they just sort of they get become they become brittle and and just you can't get through to older people. But I always feel like if you're someone who's younger is like around more thoughts and things and I don't know, like there's more of a discussion about different perspectives and world experiences. And so I just have this expectation that she she would be able to understand this. And the fact that she doesn't is just so deeply disappointing as someone who formally really enjoyed Emmy on the show. I just think it's just like real crap. It's just shitty. Shitty, shitty, shitty.

[00:30:07]Ignorance comes in every age. So, now it's 2 hours left of Joe Bradley's 20s, everybody. So, Maddi picks up Michael and he's like, "Oh my god!"

[00:30:18]He's like, "You look hot. Like, let's go. Like, get me out of here. So, like, you got balloons? Like, they're safe this time?" He's like, "Oh my god, [ __ ] they are weighted this time." And we see the clip of the balloons flying away when she freaked out last time. And those were weighted as well. So, I think that these just are more properly weighted. I don't know. She probably have a barbell on the bottom.

[00:30:39]Last time they were weighted with Joe's um with Joe's uh Joe's skillset, which was not much. And so, they flew off into the sky. Joe, the balloons! Oh my god, the balloons flew away.

[00:30:52]Um which was a great moment. So, Maddi is asking how she's doing. And she's like, "I have been the best I've been I've been living the best life this weekend. So, like, okay, when I was like when I was ill, I had to cancel the show. And like my manager came to me and said, 'They want to give you an opportunity to make it up and Punta Cana.'" And they're like, "Oh my god, Punta Cana!" By the way, did we ever find out what Maddi was ill with? Did that was ever a storyline or we just know that she was in the hospital and we don't know what it was, right?

[00:31:19]>> Yeah, I don't think we know what it was.

[00:31:21]Um so, she's like, "I've played everywhere in the nation, but like my dream is to play out of the country."

[00:31:28]And I like that um I like that it's so non-specific. I believe that's how your dream should be.

[00:31:34]Just very non-specific.

[00:31:36]Like, I don't want to play in Paris.

[00:31:37]Like, just say out of the country. Like, you can go to Mexico. Just do it there in a weekend. Boom. A goal accomplished.

[00:31:42]Something off the vision board. So, James Kennedy when he pressed play in a club in Mexico. He's like, "Oh, I just played Tulum." And you're like, "You pressed You you You did not have a DJ set in Tulum. You pressed play on a CD player." Yeah. [laughter] Exactly.

[00:31:59]So, Michael says like, "Oh my god, that's literally my homeland. Like, I've been there since I was seven. Seven years old. And uh I haven't been there since I was seven. And so, that's where uh his parents are from. His dad is half Puerto Rican and Dominican. And his mom is fully Dominican. So, he talks about going there as a little kid. And he knows everything about it. So, he's going to help her um figure out where to go and plan the trip and all that stuff.

[00:32:25]So, then she asks about New York. And he's like, "Oh my god, you name the bar, we were there. Like, I [ __ ] I [ __ ] somebody named Mens Wearhouse."

[00:32:34]Which was amazing.

[00:32:36]And then we went to another gay bar. And TJ like, I made out with like five people. But then we got in the taxi and then I made out with TJ. She's like, "So, you got to make out with like half the city and TJ got to make out with you." Yeah, he's like 34. So.

[00:32:50]>> [laughter] >> I just wanted to see what it would be like. I sort of have a king for old men.

[00:32:55]So, she's like, "I am dead." You She says, "You guys are crazy." So, now we go to Brad's house and everyone's getting ready. And TJ is putting on a shirt that says, "Don't waste your toy money. You're already." It's like I Uh it's so Our note taker says it's sounding out the lyrics to Blink-182's "I Miss You." Cuz I was looking at that t-shirt and I did not get it whatsoever.

[00:33:19]And they're like, "Oh my god, that t-shirt! I used to have a t-shirt like that." Oh.

[00:33:23]You're in I'm not No, I don't No, I still don't get it. I still don't get the t-shirt. This is this is a generation gap moment for me and this show.

[00:33:32]So, everybody's coming in their emo outfits and talking about like how crazy they were back then. And um Julia tells Justin, "Yeah, you look more emo like on a normal day than you do right now."

[00:33:44]Which is kind of true.

[00:33:46]>> [laughter] >> Um so, he it's his turn to say, "It's not a phase, Mom." So, then Mia comes and she's wearing like a wig, like a pink wig and stuff.

[00:33:56]And they're like, "Woah." He says, "You look like a weird anime hot chick with big boobs."

[00:34:02]She's like, "Yeah, okay." So, they're they're all all talking about their emo phases and stuff. Yeah, we see pictures of a lot of them from like when they were in high school, you know, listening to this music in 2005 or six or something.

[00:34:14]And Mia's Mia's like, "I didn't really have an emo phase. Like, maybe I listened to Paramore like once or twice, but like that's it." She's like, "I was a jock."

[00:34:21]And then Brad comes out in like a wig, which doesn't make any sense, but it's like okay, sure, go with it.

[00:34:26]>> [laughter] >> Yeah, he comes out in kind of like a little Mary Lou Retton wig, which is weird. Yeah, it was so weird.

[00:34:31]>> Um so, TJ is asking Mia, "So, are the girls going to be nice to you tonight?"

[00:34:35]She's like, "I don't even know what I did to those girls." And Molly's like, "Yeah, like it's a rude ass." Uh and then we see a flashback of Lake being like, "Um what I value in friendship and what I value in people are not characteristics that you guys have exhibited.

[00:34:52]So, Molly says, "The only reason Lake doesn't like me is it's very clear. It's cuz Emmy doesn't like me. Mind you, Emmy also has no reason to hate me either. They should just go form a club. I hate Molly for no reason club. Just to hate Molly. Put it on a t-shirt or a mug and then actually can have like a party and I can actually plan it. Like, I actually would like not mind planning an I hate Molly party. I mean, a check is a check, am I right?"

[00:35:15]Yeah, but Molly also you told that girl to go date You told Mia to go date uh Justin. And then now you're acting like, "Oh my god, I can't believe she dated Justin." So, whatever.

[00:35:25]So, um Brad's like, "Okay, I cosign."

[00:35:29]Oh, they're saying she needs a stern talking to. And Brad's like, "I cosign."

[00:35:33]So, now Julia comes in and she looks gorgeous. And she's wearing this like sky dress, collar thing. And um Mia's like, "Oh my god, you look so sexy." And TJ goes, "Yeah, it's like all the girls that dress really hot for Halloween, but then you come and dress like a blueberry."

[00:35:49]>> [laughter] >> Um and so, yeah, Mia's like, "That's not fair. Like, um I didn't know it was sexy goth. I thought it was funny goth."

[00:35:58]So, um uh Mia's like, "I'm going to go pull a Grace Lily and be like, 'I'm going home. I didn't know the dress code. You didn't tell me.'" So, now it's 1 hour left of Joe Bradley's 20s. And now we're with Joe at this at this place that's called the Music Farm. And uh Joe is with actually his brother, his hot brother. And Joe's like, "Hey, so like this is the Music Farm. And like that's where Republic looks. Cuz like Republic's there. And Music Farm is there. And I come out of like the back alley of Republic there. The Music Farm is like there. Like, have you ever seen like two buildings so close to before?

[00:36:26]Like, it was like a building there and a building there. It's like crazy, right?"

[00:36:29]God, the 20s are crazy. I'm going to miss them.

[00:36:32]His brother looks just like him and talks just like him, too. He's like, "Yeah, like this is really cool. Like, I'm putting on makeup on like a girl.

[00:36:39]This crazy, bro." He's like, "Yeah, my brother's got like a great corporate job. He's intelligent, successful, is crushing it with work. And like um like I just want to be him, you know? Like, makes me feel like a piece of shit." And his brother's like, "You're not a piece of [ __ ] Like, you could do this, too.

[00:36:54]You're doing so good, Joe. You're doing great. I wouldn't put on eyeliner for anyone else, Joe."

[00:36:59]Joe's putting on his brother's eyeliner, which I would not trust Joe to do this.

[00:37:04]And his brother's like, "Uh you sure you're doing it right? Should we do a YouTube video?" He's like, "No, don't worry about it. It's not like not rocket science. Like, I know how to do it, okay?"

[00:37:14]I [laughter] thought we should watch a YouTube video.

[00:37:16]Joe, why is your brother in an eye patch?

[00:37:19]So, Joe's like, "Yeah, my brother's inspiring, but he's also like makes me feel like a piece of [ __ ] Like, in a good way, though. Like, a good piece of [ __ ] Like, a really like well-formed piece of [ __ ] Like, he makes me feel like, 'Damn, like I could do this. Like, what's my excuse, you know?'

[00:37:32]Um yeah, okay, cool. Well, you look good. You look great." Michael's like, "All right. Great. Cheers to being 30.

[00:37:38]All right, thanks."

[00:37:40]Yeah, so they're talking about their love life. And Michael doesn't have a girl. And Joe's like, "I can't believe that we live in a world where like I have a girlfriend before you.

[00:37:48]That's crazy." He's like, "Yeah, if only girlfriends were jobs, right, Joe? Like, careers." He's like, "Damn, Al. Okay, wow."

[00:37:55]So, he's saying Maddi's it for him and he's going to propose to her sooner than you think. And it's probably going to be next year. And he's like, "Yeah, fighting with Maddi's been a wake-up call. You know, like wake-up calls go off and then you turn off the alarm, take a shot, and go back to bed for a while. So, it's time to make some changes, you know? Maybe vodka instead tequila, something like that. But one thing is for sure, I want to marry Maddi with You know, my biggest dream besides like marrying Maddi and having kids, beyond that, my biggest dream is like, I want our sons to be best friends. He's like, "Uh well, uh you know, we don't have any sons yet, right? Just saying."

[00:38:34][laughter] No. He's like, "Yeah, well, we'll see if I can uh if I can catch up to you and Maddi. I'm scared that you're going to be like popping out a baby in 2 years." Also, again, neither of us have children. So, and they're not guaranteed to be sons. Just want to put that out there to the world. You have your little dream there.

[00:38:49]So, on the screen we see RIP Joe Bradley's 20s. And everyone's on their emo looks. And so, a lot of people start coming. And they're about in the backstage area right now. And he's like, "Oh my god, this is the dream come true.

[00:39:01]This is amazing. Like, the definition of punk rock is not giving a [ __ ] what people think. Like, seriously, you guys.

[00:39:07]Even though I do care what people think, especially Lava."

[00:39:11]Yeah. So, uh yeah, he's like really really excited to have Lava here. So, we see a flashback. And he's like, "Hey, Lava, it's my birthday weekend. Um so, I don't know if you can get like a babysitter or like um maybe you can hire someone. Or maybe like, can your baby like put on a wig? Can your baby Can your baby put on like eyeliner? I don't know. Like, I just want like you and Lamar to like come see like my show. And like I don't see you there."

[00:39:34]>> Joe. Okay? Like, I'm coming. What? What do you want?

[00:39:38]Yeah, she's like, "Just be quiet.

[00:39:39]Enough." He's like, "Oh, okay. Great."

[00:39:42]Uh so, he says if this is a bust, he's like, "I don't think Level Up will ever take me seriously after this." Joe, there's so many people here.

[00:39:49]So, uh, Level and Jordan arrive. Uh, not Lamar. Lamar's like, "No.

[00:39:54]Still no." Like, "Still no." Nope, not doing that.

[00:39:57]Uh, yeah, Jordan Jordan has a lot to say this episode. Like, as usual. Here here comes Jordan with her ruse.

[00:40:05]Today she's wearing emo ruse. So, Level is like, "Um, I'm happy to see Joe like taking a risk on himself, but like, I mean, I'm proud of him in that sense. I just think if you're going to make all that effort, like, just do it at Republic." Like, he just essentially filled a competitor's space. Like, it just circulates back to not thinking through and not communicating. And that's very on brand for Joe. Oh, Level, [ __ ] off. Give me a [ __ ] break.

[00:40:30]Republic is the size of a shoe closet, first of all. This is like a venue that's holding 400 people for like dancing and a mosh pit and a concert.

[00:40:39]And second of all, who wants to have their party at work? And third of all, you've called this guy a loser all year.

[00:40:44]Why is he supposed to bring you work on his birthday? Level is an ass.

[00:40:48]Yeah, I do think that like the main the the strongest point is like, this is a concert. Your Republic is not set up for that.

[00:40:56]Um, but I do think like there is a there is a point to be made about like, yeah, put this energy into your job, too. I know you're trying to prove that you can do it, but you can also do it at your job. We actually said that. I would agree, for sure.

[00:41:11]So, Mia's like, uh, so like, "Okay, cool. This is fun." And they're all just like laughing and everything. And Maddie's like, "Besides my look, I think Mia killed it. She looks so emo. But unlike Emmy, who's giving like Britney Spears hit me baby one more time." And we see that Emmy did dress like Britney Spears. Emmy is She's just completely disconnected from any sort of reality, even costume reality. She just can't do it. I mean, also like we I feel like we haven't even really dug in on her crazy, um, interview look where she's wearing this like white lacy figure skating look.

[00:41:44]She just looks She's just absolutely bonkers this season. She's totally deranged. Yeah, she really is.

[00:41:51]Um, so, uh, Julia's pissed. She's like, "Oh my god, I'm going to cry. I'm so angry."

[00:41:57]And he's like, "Yeah, I mean, she's mad.

[00:42:00]Personally, I'm exhausted, you know?"

[00:42:02]And so, everybody just arrives and says hi to each other. And we meet Lake's girlfriend, or her date, at least. And she's really cute. And she's like, "Oh, I'm the queen of situationships. Like, something's always happening. Boy, girl, other. Like, Nessa is so pretty. I saw her around Republic and like, I get that tingly feeling."

[00:42:24]And, uh, yeah, they're like, "Wow, like, oh my god, her girl's hot." And Marcos is like, "Yeah, they look like cousins."

[00:42:31]And DJ goes, "Yeah, they look related."

[00:42:32]I just said that, DJ. God. I'm not into it. And he says >> Low-key, I'm not even going to cap.

[00:42:39]Like, we look alike. Maybe I just love myself.

[00:42:44]So then, uh, Joe is like, "Hey everyone, welcome to emo night. It's Joe's birthday. Woah. Okay, hey everyone. So, oh man, I feel like I'm on top of the world right now. Like, all my anxiety, all the doubts out the window. Like, this genre of music heals my soul. Like, this is exactly how I was hoping tonight would go."

[00:43:04]Joe, your outfit doesn't match. God dammit, Maddie. Sorry, love you. I love you, too. So, Ocean comes.

[00:43:11]He's like, "Hi, hello there. It's me, Ocean." No one's butt is safe. So, Ocean is there and DJ's like, "Oh my god, it's the milkman.

[00:43:20]>> [laughter] >> We're going to have a mess.

[00:43:22]Whenever Ocean's in town, there's going to be a mess." And we see last year like that fight that I totally forgot about between Maddie and Grace Lily at at the the prom party that they held.

[00:43:47]So, Ocean is like, "Hello there. Are you guys friends? Are you girlfriend or what? What's happening?" And she And Janessa is like, "Ask Lake." She's like, "I like her." She's like, "Oh, but I thought we had something like And DJ's like, "The second worst secret kept secret after Joe and Luann is Ocean and Lake.

[00:44:03]Like, I don't think any of us care if Lake had sex with Ocean.

[00:44:07]We care about they [ __ ] after prom night last year. Oohs.

[00:44:11]And Yeah, but Ocean's like, he's too old and gross for little Lake. I mean, how old was she 20, 21 last year? Leave her alone.

[00:44:21]Ocean is >> pretty creepy these days, too.

[00:44:25]Um, so she laughs about it. She's like, "Um, I'm not even going to talk about it. That's all I have to say."

[00:44:32]So, he's like, "Let's do a shot there, baby. Come on, do it for me, baby."

[00:44:36]And DJ's like, "Oh my god, is he trying to have a threesome?"

[00:44:41]It's like my hell.

[00:44:42]So, Joe is like, "Yeah, like, the three-way love story was like Lake and Ocean.

[00:44:48]And Lake is like, "Oh my god, like, I can't even talk about it.

[00:44:52]Oh, that's all I have to say."

[00:44:55]So, then Sally shows up. She's like, "Yoohoo, any boys around this emo night?"

[00:45:02]>> [crying] >> It's not just her, it's also Charlie.

[00:45:07]And Charlie is there with Justin. Yikes.

[00:45:11]And she's like, "Oh my god, I'm glad to be here. Like, do I look like I normally go to an emo night?"

[00:45:18]He's like, "Wait, are you saying you just came for me?" She goes, "Yeah."

[00:45:22]"Really?" "Yeah." "Wow." And he tells us the Jordan situation has just been it's been nothing short of abysmal. And at this point, me and Mia are just friends.

[00:45:31]So, now the boy is a free agent now and I really like Charlie and she's on a TV show. So, why not? Let's go for it.

[00:45:38]Yeah, so they have like small talk.

[00:45:40]Like, "It's so refreshing to be around you. Oh my god, you too." And she goes, "Yeah, I've I've known you for two days." He goes, "Yeah, crazy."

[00:45:47]And he said they found love in a hopeless place, Instagram DMs. And they grabbed drinks over the weekend and they had a pretty [ __ ] amazing date, you know? I lied to her about locking myself out of my apartment, so we had a cheeky little sleepover. And God, that's it. We've been with each other ever since.

[00:46:04]Great. Builds on a lie. So, Justin is like, "By the way, I'm getting like the love bomber accusations." She goes, "Yes, yes, yes. Totally. Yeah, yeah.

[00:46:14]It's so funny because I'm being accused of being a love bomber to Craig. So, I totally get you."

[00:46:19]Yeah, exactly.

[00:46:22]Joe's happy cuz there's a mosh pit that's happening. He's like, "This is what I've always wanted, a mosh pit on my birthday." Dare to dream, Joe. Dare to dream. And, um, Janessa and Lake are just from talking about Mia. And Janessa is like, "Tell me what's going on." And Lake is like, "Yeah, well, Mia is just is like she's just like a [ __ ] I'm sick of Mia." And then like Sally is like, "Hey, Mia.

[00:46:43]Yoohoo. What's going on? Are you okay?"

[00:46:46]And Mia is like, >> [snorts] >> "No, I'm sick of these these girls over here."

[00:46:51]Yeah, and Lake is like blatantly talking about her, you know, like, where you could see it. She's like, "Yeah, that one over there. That one. She's just a [ __ ] I hate her." Mia is like, "Oh my god, what is going on with these women?

[00:47:03]It's like [ __ ] insane. Like, I'm I'm taking off my hat. Like, it's too damn hot. I can't even deal with this. I mean, like I I can't have this energy.

[00:47:09]Like, I can't have like this little girl being mad at me and making snotty faces at me. Like, what the hell?" So, she goes up and she's like, "Can Can I pull you outside?" And Lake is like, "Me? But it's Joe's birthday.

[00:47:21]Like, I don't want to go out there.

[00:47:23]Like, I just really want to get drunk and have fun with my friends, though.

[00:47:26]So, like, I don't want to leave." She's like, "Come on, it'll it'll be 10 minutes." She goes, "No, yeah, no. I would rather not."

[00:47:34]Cuz well, I would rather not have gotten yelled at at you by on Friday, but it happened anyway, didn't it? So, she's like, "Um, she has nothing to say to me unless her little minions are around where she can be like, 'Yeah, I said it.

[00:47:45]I did a good job. I did a good job yelling at me, didn't I, minions?'" So, Lake is like, "Guys, I'm not going to do this right now, okay? She's trying to have a conversation with me and like I don't want to have a conversation right now. Like, I don't want to have a conversation right now. It's Joe's birthday and we were having a very intimate quiet birthday party for him and I don't want to ruin the vibe."

[00:48:05]So, Mia walks away, but then Lake keeps going on to everybody else. Like, "Whatever. Like, I don't want to talk to that [ __ ] I don't want to talk to her." She's like, "Okay, now I'm going to get pissed, okay? Cuz her [ __ ] ugly ass can never be me. And that's the whole thing." Well, she's not ugly. But Mia is getting Mia is getting pissed.

[00:48:23]And Lake is like, "Stop pointing at me."

[00:48:26]She's like, "I'm not pointing at you."

[00:48:28]"You keep pointing at me. Stop pointing at me." At which point now Lake is getting up in Mia's face, sort of pointing at Mia. She goes, "You want to talk about me? Don't put your hand in my face." She goes, "Don't [ __ ] touch me. Don't [ __ ] touch me, [ __ ] Don't [ __ ] touch me." Cuz there's like a moment where there's like a hand-on-hand, like pushing the hand away. "You're pointing. You're pointing." The hands touch. And then it's like, "Oh my god. Oh my god.

[00:48:47]Touching."

[00:48:49]Yeah, so Mia is like, "Um, I don't know like who she's friends with or who she hangs out with or where she's from or like why she can stick her hand in people's face, but I'm from Belize, [ __ ] And I went to school with barbed wire, okay?

[00:49:01]I will not be disrespected."

[00:49:04]Um, Lake is [clears throat] Lake is like, "Fuck Mia. [ __ ] that [ __ ] She's eye-catching. She is. But she's also like a sociopath. It's kind of like Jennifer's Body. You seen that movie where Megan Fox is beautiful, but she's like a crazy psycho? I'm going to give the point to Mia. I think, uh, I'm from Belize and went to school with barbed wire is stronger than you're like Jennifer's Body with Megan Fox. I'm going Mia wins this round.

[00:49:28]>> [laughter] >> But also Mia's I mean, Mia's got to be like, "Why do I have to fight with the 20-year-olds? Yes. What is this show come Why are you making me do this show?

[00:49:39]You know, like why?

[00:49:41]Cuz you're never going to win cuz even if you go get into a smack down with a with a 22 year old you you're still fighting with a a kid, you know?

[00:49:49]Yeah, cuz Mia's like it's not that deep to me. Like I made out with Justin like we're not even friends though. Like I really don't care and you're making it this whole big production and it's not that. Like and now we have to have this feud. Can we just like squash this and be like I don't it's like it's not that big of a deal. But but you know Lake is young. She's 22 and she is doing the 22 year old thing. Like oh my god, like why would you do that? Like like okay, like I love Lake but she really is showing her age right now. Yeah, I think Mia and Justin needs to back off this one and not get into like smacking fights with this girl.

[00:50:22]It's weird. It's like fighting with a baby. I got into a fight with my niece when she was a baby. She was like sitting in the back seat and she took something from me and I took it back and she cried and I was like whatever and then we started like fighting and my sister was like you're fighting with a two year old. I was like but she started it and she's like Ronnie you're fighting with a two year old.

[00:50:41]Like at some point you just have to be the one to walk away. Not that I did. I mean I got that candy back.

[00:50:46]Good. But still. That's right. That's all.

[00:50:48]>> So now Julia pulls Emmy >> Yeah, Julia pulls Emmy for a talk and Emmy's like oh my god, you want to have a talk with me? Okay, yeah, sure. Like oh my god. Okay, why are you walking so fast? Okay, you're walking really fast.

[00:51:00]Okay, hold on a second. Okay, okay, okay, I'm with you now.

[00:51:05]I've known Julia for years. I influenced her to move here and I encouraged her to date Brad. So I'm hoping Julia is an olive branch to help me mend my relationship with Brad and I'm like oh finally someone wants to talk. So Julia's like okay. So over this last week, yeah. Uh okay, just calm down.

[00:51:23]I've heard that you were leading some sort of defaming of Bradley's name. She was like uh What do you mean defaming of Bradley's name? She's like I've heard that you're saying that he was drunkenly banging on your door in New York City and that you were naked and afraid in your bathroom that he was making you feel unsafe. You said he brought a chainsaw in and that you he brought in 12 other people and that he aimed a gun at your face and that he was stalking you and that he's scary and he said something about Clarice and eating fava beans. He wants to actually eat humans. Like does any of that sound familiar? Um I mean I never said he was banging on my door.

[00:52:01]>> [panting] >> So so I swear to god I never said that.

[00:52:04]I mean, you know, chainsaw, stalk, all that stuff, yeah. But like in that moment like the only thing I thought was like oh my god, Brad is stalking my hotel room. Like that's it. That's that's what I was thinking at the time.

[00:52:13]So She's like Emmy, we heard you screaming 12 doors down. I wasn't screaming. I wasn't screaming.

[00:52:19]I wasn't even screaming though. So You know what? You've gotten away with this for way too [ __ ] long. The words that you were using to describe Bradley are so >> I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this.

[00:52:29]I'm not doing this. But you are. You are. [laughter] You owe me a conversation, okay? And Emmy like tries to go around the corner and and Emmy's like I'm not doing this. As a woman she's like no. Okay then like let's have a conversation around the other side of the corner. We're going back to the other side of of the corner, okay? Okay, we're going to have a talk. And Emmy of all people is like calm down Jules. Emmy is going to tell someone to calm down?

[00:52:48]You're the one hyperventilating and running away. And she's like listen, what did he do to make you self to make you feel unsafe? Tell me. And she's like um Julia um I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm a [ __ ] woman.

[00:53:00]So first of all, so like he stalked my hotel room.

[00:53:05]She's like he did not stalk you. Yeah, yeah, well what I knew in the moment was that's what he done. So that's like what I had with like the information I was given which is like he was stalking me.

[00:53:15]So >> I was going to Molly's room to apologize.

[00:53:18]>> What? I didn't know that. I don't know that. I don't know that. Like how how do I know that? I don't know that.

[00:53:22]>> We told you a million times. So why the [ __ ] are you not listening? Why do you use those words to describe it again?

[00:53:27]Like I didn't never talk about it Julia.

[00:53:29]Like what are you talking about? Like I'm being like so like I'm a woman. Like I'm a woman. What are you talking about?

[00:53:34]Like I'm so confused. I don't even know where she's getting this. Like what's your point? Like are you trying to make me look crazy?

[00:53:40]Like is that what you're trying to do?

[00:53:41]Make me look crazy? [clears throat] And the producer says well, do you have any idea why? Like why do you think she's lying? Do you think someone else lying? She goes oh my god, like well then okay, well like who have I even talked to? And then we see flashbacks of Emmy talking to literally everybody in town. She it's like the postman comes by. She's like oh my god, I was stalked and harassed and terrified naked in the shower and like this guy was like trying to murder me. So his name is Brad, okay?

[00:54:07]Body by Brad.

[00:54:08]Terrifying.

[00:54:10]I'm a 115 pound woman like when a man threatens you, you are scared. By the way, the assumption is that you were threatened. There was no threat. There was nothing that was a threat. He said you're dead to me too. That's it. That was not a threat. He was echoing what you said.

[00:54:27]Yes.

[00:54:27]>> and the dead to me like you're threatening to murder me and you're calling me a [ __ ] So And we see her talking to Lucia. So like flashback Lucia from season one and she's like Brad, obviously like you were intoxicated and you were angry and then you tried to scare me and be like sleep with one eye open and you made me feel like unsafe because like you intimidated me. You threatened me. You stalked me.

[00:54:47]And Lucia's like What is what is wrong with you crazy white woman? And then [laughter] we just hear then we see her sitting with a yoga teacher. She's like yeah, this guy was like stalking me. He was like stalking me. And the yoga teacher is like That's Lucia. That was Lucia. Oh, that was Lucia? Oh my god, I didn't even recognize her. Yes. She's like now all earth mother but Lucia is the yoga teacher. I didn't even recognize her. That's hilarious. What is wrong with you? I thought it was so funny we just see her in yoga and she's like um this is the yamaste portion or the namaste portion of this evening, ma'am.

[00:55:21]She's like okay, now we're going to do some downward dog. Oh, now you're calling me a dog. Fine. Fine.

[00:55:26]So um She's like I'm in my hotel room.

[00:55:29]I'm having a private conversation with my fiance and my mother and he's eavesdropping and it's like his feelings got hurt because I I have to apologize.

[00:55:38]What?

[00:55:39]What?

[00:55:41]You were screaming.

[00:55:43]>> not screaming. I'M SCREAMING RIGHT NOW.

[00:55:45]THAT WAS SCREAMING. This is not screaming.

[00:55:48]You got caught. For what?

[00:55:50]For talking [ __ ] In the privacy of my own hotel room? Like I'm not allowed to talk in the privacy of my own hotel room?

[00:55:56]You were talking loud enough for us to hear you all the way in Charleston.

[00:55:59]Okay, it's how it made me feel. Like okay, like it's not he's not an safe man. He's not like a he's not like a scary man. It's just in that moment he made me feel that way. So Okay, so why are you using those words?

[00:56:11]>> Well well cuz he called me a [ __ ] dumb [ __ ] He did not call you a dumb [ __ ] Yeah, like I'm saying in the context of the sentences that he used.

[00:56:18]Like I I I I I I Julia Julia like don't you don't you know like that morning like with me and Will? Like I don't I don't even think you know like how bad it was. You don't even know.

[00:56:29]She's like I could sit here in tears just like you are to say exactly how Brad was feeling this morning.

[00:56:36]Yeah, but like like I didn't even work last week. Like I couldn't even sleep or I couldn't even eat. I mean I normally don't do either of those things anyway but like I couldn't even if I wanted to.

[00:56:46]She's like I couldn't even put together a really nice chakra platter last week.

[00:56:49]She's like why? Because you knew you [ __ ] up.

[00:56:52]No, like no Jules cuz I'm like I'm not allowed to feel the way he made me feel Jules.

[00:56:57]And you're making him feel the way like just as you are. Well, like who gives a [ __ ] His actions are the one like it's his it's actions. It's his.

[00:57:05]And Julia's like me, I give a [ __ ] I give a [ __ ] and you will never [ __ ] understand because you are a white privileged ass [ __ ] >> [laughter] >> Julia, like what is that even like what does that even mean have to do with like the way the what are you talking about?

[00:57:19]Because you don't understand.

[00:57:21]>> Don't even get any closer to me. Do not even get closer to me. Do not even get I just want to let [laughter] you know we're done. The tears and the I'm sorrys don't mean a goddamn thing. And Julia just walks off.

[00:57:32]>> them. Yeah, she just completely drops the tears and the whole act and she's like okay, whatever then.

[00:57:38]Cuz she's so psycho.

[00:57:39]>> your girlfriend to fight your battles.

[00:57:42]You do realize that that's what you did all of last season for Will. Just so you know.

[00:57:46]>> [laughter] >> Yeah, this is literally you fighting your boyfriend's battles because the whole battle was that Will was cheating on you.

[00:57:54]Yes.

[00:57:56]That was great. Julia was what a great display of like solidarity with your boyfriend. I mean she really She really just spelled it all out for Emmy and I love when she was she also was like very reasonable too. She's like yeah, what you're saying right now Emmy, how you feel, that's how Brad feels.

[00:58:15]She's sort of saying like you're okay to like like what you're feeling, I'm not saying that you're it's invalid but you have to consider what Brad is feeling and the difference is that what you're saying about Brad could mess up everything in his life in a way that it won't mess up anything in your life. And I thought Julia was just great. It was actually it was inspiring to me. You know, I think it's like >> Julia was like wallpaper when you're tripping and you don't know that you're tripping out like you've just taken whatever like mushrooms or whatever and you're like oh it's just wallpaper and then like a long time goes by and you're like there's wallpaper and then all of a sudden the wallpaper starts moving and you're like oh my god, that wallpaper is fascinating. Cuz Julia this whole time I'm like Julia is Julia even take her pulse. Take her pulse. Is there anybody in there? And Julia came to life tonight. I was like yes, Julia.

[00:59:03]She was great. Um I thought when you said she's like wallpaper when you're tripping I I thought you're going to be like you know when you fall over and you reach for something and you just try to the only thing you can get is the wallpaper and then you tear off a piece of it by accident and then you look at it and say that was really pretty. I was like where's Ronnie going with this?

[00:59:19]Tripping balls. So yeah, good for her.

[00:59:22]So she goes over to Brad and she's like yeah.

[00:59:26]She's [ __ ] crazy. She's saying like he was stalking me and I was like no he's not. And so he's like, "Yeah, I knew that wouldn't go anywhere, but you know, at least you tried."

[00:59:39]Yeah, she's A basically like, yeah, she just doesn't take accountability for anything and she's like, "No, you You're saying he drunkenly banged on your [ __ ] door and you felt unsafe and he's stalked you. Are you [ __ ] kidding me? Like that didn't happen."

[00:59:50]And she's like, "Yeah, she's a liar."

[00:59:53]But she's like, yeah, they they both both have given up and um Brad feels great though cuz he's like, "Wow, I have a girlfriend who's going to ride for me." And that's like really important and so they hug and that's a really nice moment. But meanwhile Emmy is still spiraling and so she gets Bella and she's like, "Oh my god. Oh my god.

[01:00:07]Oh my god. Oh my god. I need a cigarette. I need a cigarette right now.

[01:00:09]Oh my god.

[01:00:11]She's like, "Oh my god, dumb [ __ ] [ __ ] Like how I not gone like through [ __ ] and I'm like I can't even have a minute to just enjoy [ __ ] Joe's party."

[01:00:18]>> [laughter] >> I just like I can't. I go, "What the fuck?" And Bella's like, "Okay, woah, woah. Calm down." And inside they're watching and like, "What's up?" And Brad's catching them up on what an idiot she is. So Bella's like, "So did you take ownership for what you said and any of that?" She's like, "Oh my god, I couldn't even get there cuz like she like she like I mean I tried. Like I would try. Like I like it would be nice if I could like express that, you know, like if I wasn't being stalked and harassed and like you know, someone was threatening to murder me while I'm helpless and naked in the shower. Like I'm a girl I'm a woman."

[01:00:51]Emmy who [clears throat] keeps keeps on keeps on saying that she tried to express things. You You had a plenty of chances in the conversation.

[01:01:00]So Bella's like, "Okay, I'm telling you for the time being, drop it."

[01:01:06][ __ ] no. I am not dropping this. I'm not dropping this. No, I am not dropping this. Would you drop this? No. Like uh yeah, I would drop it.

[01:01:15]I would drop it. How many more times you need people on TV to tell you what you're doing is a microaggression?

[01:01:21]Okay, it's kind of racist. You're on TV.

[01:01:25]Stop it.

[01:01:25]>> But God, to take that and not only not take the advice of the people who were on the show, you go and you start telling the entire town worse stuff.

[01:01:34]Like you start making up crazier like adding on to it. What the [ __ ] is wrong with this lady? She's just [ __ ] crazy. She's like lost her marbles. She's like, "I need to have a conversation with Brad."

[01:01:46]Blank blank. Jared, not [ __ ] Julia.

[01:01:49]Bradley Carter. Brad.

[01:01:50]Brad.

[01:01:51]Brad.

[01:01:52]You've made it so bad no one owes you a conversation. You're lucky if you're not iced out of this entire season. So Julia's like, "Yeah, I'll never be put in Bradley's shoes and she'll never be put in Bradley's shoes." And Michael says like, "Yeah, cuz you're black, duh." She goes, "Yeah, and that's that."

[01:02:07]So he's he's Michael says like, "Yeah, Emmy is just trying to prove that Brad's wrong and she's right. Um it's not about her feeling unsafe. Like she's going to talk to anybody and then only tell her side of the story like Why is she still talking about it? Oh my god.

[01:02:23]Yeah. So then they get like emo-ish and they're like, "Let's get back to partying." And Madison's like, "This is for my boyfriend Joe Bradley. I want to see you all rock out for him." And then she throws an eraser into the audience.

[01:02:35]He's like, "What? Wait, I I was about to use that."

[01:02:38]>> that. I needed that.

[01:02:40]She's like, "This is the best night of not only my life, but Joe's life too probably. Like this is epic. And like I'm so proud of him after a hell of a week we just had. Like he's so great.

[01:02:49]It's amazing." So everyone's like, "Oh my god, this is a This was great." And Joe thanks Leva for coming. He's like, "You made my entire birthday. Like thank you so much."

[01:02:58]Leva's like, "You know what? The room is full. The vibe is high. I'm wearing a stupid hat. I think Joe was smart to partner with somebody who is established. The Emo Night guys, from my perspective it looks like Joe it's like a very successful event." He's like, "Yeah, this is the best." She's like, "You know, I'm happy for you. That's just all I want is for you to be happy.

[01:03:15]I just want you to be happy." She basically says, "I've always seen Joe as Joey Bottles and it's always been floor and VIP. I never know never knew about concert Joe. So if it's what makes you happy, do it."

[01:03:28]Yeah. So he's like, "Oh my god. Like I'm going to do this forever."

[01:03:32]And so he goes and gives a birthday speech and he's like, "Yeah, I [ __ ] did it. I pulled this off in my [ __ ] 20s. [ __ ] all the haters. I can make money while crowd surfing. Like I never have to grow up now. Are you proud of me, Dad?"

[01:03:49]That was the end of a very emo episode.

[01:03:52]And that's it. All right, everybody.

[01:03:54]Thanks so much for being here. We will talk to you next time. Bye.

[01:03:58]Bye.