They Threw Out A LOT Of Evidence

Added: 2026-05-24

[00:00:00]Anyways, you guys want to talk about Luigi Manzione? Cuz uh his case is looking pretty good right now, all things considered. First of all, for those who don't know, Luigi Manzione is the uh person who we think, probably, maybe, I don't know, allegedly, could have maybe had something to do with the disappearance of a CEO from uh United Healthcare.

[00:00:25]They they they disappeared with bullets.

[00:00:27]Anyway, Luigi is somebody who uh may or may not, we don't know, have done the deed. Who knows?

[00:00:35]But, his trial has been ongoing, and over and over and over again, more information about the trial has been showing up, and it's not been that great for people who really like CEOs to live.

[00:00:47]It's been really interesting looking at it from the perspective of somebody who likes healthcare and doesn't like the healthcare system. So, you know, Alice says it was in a weird middle ground. It was too strong for my usual playgroup, but not good enough to hang with the CEDH pods.

[00:01:02]So, I dismantled it and used the cards for a partner deck. Hey, that makes sense.

[00:01:06]That makes sense. Savra is a strong commander.

[00:01:09]We pivot from CEO murder to Magic the Gathering on the fly. ADHD at its finest. Anyhow, let's talk about the case with Luigi. Let's see where we're at right now.

[00:01:18]>> time so that we're all on the same page here. What is in and what is out?

[00:01:25]Yeah, what We have more clarification now on what is in and what is out. Uh what is out, what the jury will not learn about uh the bullet magazine, that's the magazine that uh full of bullets that Officer Christie Wasser found wrapped in wet underwear, because that was found in the backpack at McDonald's. The backpack was 9 ft away at another table placed there by police officer. Therefore, Judge Carroll found that was not in the control of Manzione, and that wasn't a legal search because there there no search warrant at that time for that So, on the one hand, it could be planted evidence.

[00:02:02]On the other hand, it could be incompetence.

[00:02:05]You know, we just have no idea. We have no idea right now, but like man, wet underwear would be a good way to try to keep a weapon from being seen because nobody wants to get in your wet undies. a backpack, the cell phone that he had, his passport, his wallet, and a computer chip that uh uh Christie Wasser, police officer Wasser, found at the McDonald's. A computer chip? A computer chip? Do you mean a [ __ ] USB drive?

[00:02:35]Cuz when I think a computer chip, I think a processor.

[00:02:39]I'm thinking like AMD and Intel's eternal war.

[00:02:42]But no, if you look at the actual words here, it's flash drive. What kind of a boomer >> [laughter] >> is sitting there going, "He has a computer chip in his hands."

[00:02:52]>> [laughter] >> Y'all, I'm curious. Is it still true that the state has decided not to give any money to the person who uh reported Luigi? Is that still holding true?

[00:03:05]Cuz man, that's really funny.

[00:03:07]You ruin your entire life to defend somebody who has a body count in the thousands of people who have died because of his business decisions.

[00:03:16]And in defending him, you've lost your job, you've lost your reputation, and you didn't even get paid for it. And even if you had gotten paid for it, $10,000 I think was what it was.

[00:03:26]Like that's not enough to keep you going for more than a handful of months, especially if you're in a place like New York.

[00:03:31]Nakeybreazy says, "You know what they say about snitches? They don't get snitches they don't get paid." Yeah.

[00:03:37]They have stitches in their wallet because the money got hemorrhaged out.

[00:03:40]She then takes the backpack an 11-minute or so ride to the police station. He's arrested. They start going through the backpack. She finds the gun. She finds a diary. That would be allowed in. The red diary will be allowed in and the weapon will be allowed in.

[00:03:58]The judge in his ruling points out that the diary was opened that police officers for inventory purposes for So, I'm really hoping that the diary of Luigi Wangione does not have words written in it like, "Today, I killed the CEO of United Healthcare. I wrote on the bullets deny, depose, and don't Fedpost." And yet, for some reason, I seem to have found myself in trouble.

[00:04:24]There are police near me as I write.

[00:04:27]Like, that'd be the most Resident Evil style note where like you're constantly writing up until the moment where where all the bad things happen. I'm I'm hoping that there's nothing weird written in there like that because I feel like that'd be too convenient. I also feel like it would be nightmarishly stupid for anybody if assuming he's the guy who did it, I don't know.

[00:04:48]But, it'd be nightmarishly stupid to actually like create a paper trail showing that you killed people and then he was like you have it on your backpack. You're just hoping that you never get searched.

[00:04:59]Now, Kibi says it'd be hilarious if the notebook was just full of class notes.

[00:05:02]Class notes or yeah, no, I I agree with Yellow Yellow Pop Purple Soda. Luigi Mansion, can we have a map of Luigi's Mansion? That's all. Can we just have like onomatopoeias scribbled in going, "Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah"? Axel says, "Dear diary, my crush looked at me today down the barrel of my gun."

[00:05:20]He's been crushing on the >> [laughter] >> He's been He's misunderstood the word crushing. He thinks that crushing means to crush the future of a person. So, he's been crushing on the United CEO.

[00:05:31]So, he's he's been alive ended.

[00:05:34]Uh dear diary, today I got arrested for a crime against corruption, but it wasn't me. Man, what if the diary I It's a real written diary, but like if we find that the diary has a whole bunch of [ __ ] written in it written in it with like M dashes and I haven't done this I've done this a bunch of times.

[00:05:54]Can we just assume that the government has like AI generated notes to to [ __ ] say that Luigi did [ __ ] So she says didn't the killer also change clothes and bikes on the run? I don't know all the details for the case.

[00:06:07]I just know that it's man there's so much stuff that's just not being allowed into the trial. I I think that only both as well. autographed every page of the diary as they took that in. So obviously the judge has ruled that that was a legal search at the police station which include those items. So that's why we're basically saying I I I think Jonathan Turley is right. It's kind of a a half victory half half win. Some things out but most importantly it appears now that the diary will be allowed in and the weapon the 9 mm gun that police say was used to kill Brian Thompson. Okay. So the details the details for the diary. Let's go over those real quick. I was it was writing slave bearing a notebook found in Luigi Mangione's. Why do you want me to sign in to CNN? [ __ ] off. I'm reading CNN not logging into it. Die. Jessica says why are you torturing us making us watch Fox News? Because if there's anybody who's going to slant this in their in their favor it's going to be Fox News. I don't want to watch it from the perspective of somebody who's 100% going to agree with my take. I want to see what the other side is saying. Because we learn more that way. I'll start.

[00:07:24]Chat GPT write a confession session of Luigi. Hold on. Hold on. I wonder I wonder. Hold on. I'm going to I'm going to open up Chat GPT and I'm going to tell it to do that. Write a confession letter from Luigi Mangione as if it was in his diary. I want to see what it shits out and then we'll and and we also look at what's actually written there at least according to law enforcement.

[00:07:52]Okay. So, as an entry dated August 15th reads, "The details are finally coming together. I'm glad in a way Oh MY GOD, THERE'S M- OH NO. Oh no, there's [ __ ] M- in the CNN article's version of it.

[00:08:10]I made that the [ __ ] up.

[00:08:12]No.

[00:08:13]>> [laughter] >> Say [snorts] it ain't so.

[00:08:18]>> [laughter] >> Uh I'm glad in a way that I've procrastinated. Magione allegedly wrote saying it gave him time to learn more about the company he was targeting whose name was redacted by prosecutors. The target is insurance because it checks every box. The federal complaint uh marked the investigator's first public acknowledgement of the notebook more than a week after its existence was first reported by CNN.

[00:08:42]Is there anything else in there? Does Does it say anything else?

[00:08:46]The high high-profile case took an unusual turn when Magione was hit with new federal charges on Thursday uh on top of state charges he's already facing for the executive's December 4th killing in Manhattan. Man, that's a day that should be celebrated. Anyway, uh including for first-degree murder as an act of terrorism. The move appeared to take lawyers by surprise. Now the state and federal trials will work in parallel according to Manhattan uh district attorney's office. But Magione's defense attorney Carrie Friedman said the new charges which include murder through use of a firearm, two stalking charges, and a firearms offense raise serious constitutional and statutory double jeopardy concerns. Oh yeah, because like if you if you try to hit him with like everything in the book right now and they fail any of these at all, then they can never try him again.

[00:09:34]They can't do anything after that point.

[00:09:36]Though it's unusual for federal prosecutors uh to take on a case like Mangione's, legal experts say that a motion for double jeopardy, a doctrine that prohibits anybody from being prosecuted twice for the same offense, is unlikely to succeed. Mangione, who will now be held in Oh yeah, also if they're doing a parallel thing, I guess that would also put him in put put them in that site, right? Where like there's a federal case against him, and then there's a a a state case against him.

[00:10:01]Mangione, who will now be held in federal detention, is expected to face the state trial before his federal trial. See the federal charges introduce possibility of Mangione being sentenced to death if he's found guilty on the federal murder charge, while the state charges carry a maximum penalty of life in prison without the possibility of parole. Okay.

[00:10:20]More information on the notebook, please. That's what I'm here for. The details from the notebook helped the feds build their case because it demonstrates the interstate stalking and premeditated lying in wait. It's all there and part of a months-long plan to cross state lines. This investor conference is a true windfall, and most importantly, the message becomes self-evident. It's unusual for federal prosecutors to take on a case like Mangione's, but you just said that.

[00:10:44]You just said that earlier. Okay, now that you're Now that you're repeating yourself, I'm done.

[00:10:49]Uh okay, so we got barely anything there. Oh my god. Okay, so you know how I mentioned all of the [ __ ] things that I hate with how like Chat GPT writes [ __ ] Check this out. So this is AI-generated version of the note. I wish we had more of the actual information from the notebook to compare this to, but all we got was the goddamn m dashes. Please tell me the cash messed up on this one as well. I hope. I keep telling myself there was a moment I could have stopped. Maybe it was before the anger hardened into certainty, before every headline started sounding like a personal insult, before every smiling executive on television looked like a person and more looked less like a a and more like it. the There it is. It took two sentences for it's not X, it's Y. It two sentences.

[00:11:40]CNN's got to the M dashes instantaneously and this one got to the it's not X, it's Y instantaneously.

[00:11:47]That's insane. That is insane. Also, light strain, I have no idea what ATAB means. People think the rage arrives like lightning. It It doesn't. It trickles in slowly. God damn it. Nope, I can't do it. I can't read it. I can't.

[00:12:01]It's done it twice.

[00:12:03]It's done it twice.

[00:12:05]Sean says, "Wait a second. This can't be. He couldn't have uh used this to write his manifesto because this was an irregular thing, assigned table at birth." Uh two whole sentences is It's getting better.

[00:12:17]No.

[00:12:18]Ding ding ding, we have a winner. It's already [ __ ] doing the thing.

[00:12:24]I hate that so much.

[00:12:26]Man, do I talk about the the channel that's probably been AI writing its all of its scripts that I stumbled on? Do I do that? Cuz the it's not X, it's Y [ __ ] happening over and over and over again is like the biggest telltale sign that an AI has written [ __ ] All tabs are bloated, maybe.

[00:12:46]Maybe maybe maybe. I don't know.

[00:12:48]I don't know.

[00:12:49][ __ ] it. We tried.

[00:12:51]We tried and then it didn't work. It got boring.

[00:12:54]Anyway, that's the information for what is being allowed into the actual trial and it looks like things are going fairly well in that way. Though with the notebook being allowed in, I'm curious how much that's going to play a role because the notebook the parts that they showed like are him expressively expressly basically writing in there, I was going to kill him on X day with X weapon.

[00:13:19]It It feels convenient and I feel like most people should know not to make a paper trail for themselves.

[00:13:25]Like I I don't want to try explain to people, hey, this is how you don't make a paper trail when you try to go commit a crime because that just that's just like the quartering doing his whole here's how you hide CP on your hard drive [ __ ] from years ago.

[00:13:42]But at the same time, I feel like it should be common knowledge that there's certain things you just don't do.

[00:13:47]I don't know. We'll see how the trial goes. We'll see how the trial goes.

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