INSIEME AO VIVO | O que Tajani tem a ver com o profeta?

Added: 2026-05-28

[00:00:00]Noting [music] la battaglia è appena iniziata. Siamo nati italiani, [song] siamo in piedi, siamo ancora qui.

[00:00:13]So, good evening, good afternoon, good night.

[00:00:17]Today, May 26, 2026, everything is 26, right? Goodnight, Tadon. Today we invited the generalist and sociologist Daniel Tadoni to explain whether the information from Minister Antônio Tadiani is accurate, namely that his surname is linked to Altejani, that is, an important prophet, according to some, of Islam in North Africa. based on historical documents, genealogical studies and onomatopoeic analyses, you know, onomastics.

[00:01:04]In this broadcast, our live stream today seeks to understand to what extent this interpretation finds any historical support, right? And why did the statement end up provoking such a strong political, cultural, and identity-related repercussion, both in Italy—we saw several pronouncements in Italy from ordinary people, including ordinary citizens, questioning this—a cultural and identity-related issue in Italy and among communities, especially the Italian diaspora. Eh, quite a strange revelation, isn't it?

[00:01:40]Goodnight. You, who are returning from a journey of almost a month through Italy, northern Portugal, and I don't know if you were in Spain as well, surely have some news to tell us. Please, the floor is yours, Tadone.

[00:01:57]Hello, good evening everyone. Well, the topic is the origin of Taiani, right? This is our topic today, and it's something I've wanted to talk about before.

[00:02:11]Even the photo I sent you earlier, Peron, is a photo I had already taken of a book, right? This big book here, which is in two volumes, okay?

[00:02:23]So, it's quite a big book. There are two volumes of this book, which is the dictionary, right, called Iconome d'Italia?

[00:02:38]So, it's a very beautiful work, a work that I consider incredible, by two scholars in this field in Italy, namely Enzo Cafarelli. I have several of his books here, as well as some by Enzo Cafarelli and Carla Marcato. There are other books of hers further up here that you can't see in the image. Carla Marcato is also another great linguistic scholar, right?

[00:03:07]And this is a very, very good book. I think it's one of the best works that talks about Italian surnames that exists. I have several surname references, whether from dictionaries or books that talk about surnames. So, I just got back from Italy today, and I brought a whole bunch of them. Well, it's a topic that I study quite a bit, and that I really enjoy.

[00:03:37]And I wanted to first clarify the rumor that was spread on social media right after the shameful decree made by our dear Antônio Taiani, that he was of Albanian origin.

[00:03:53]I don't know where that came from, I haven't the slightest idea, but I deduce it's because his last name has the letter J. So, before we start talking about each issue, I 'll talk about the letter J in Italian.

[00:04:12]The letter J is derived from the letter I. The letter J did not originate; it is not an autonomous letter. The letter J is just, as they say in Italian, a long I. It's a long I.

[00:04:27]And the letter J, it appeared in medieval manuscripts.

[00:04:32]which was an I, but an elongated I. And why was that Ia elongated? Because when the letter I was placed between letters, especially between vowels, that i in cursive writing could sometimes be confused.

[00:04:51]And the letter I itself, being just a small line, is why it gets a dot. And the only two letters in the alphabet that have a dot are precisely I and J.

[00:05:02]The J originated from an I that lengthened its leg. And what was the purpose of that elongated J in that letter? It was typically placed between two vowels or at the beginning of words.

[00:05:19]And in the Italian language, the letter J existed until the end of the last century—excuse me, the century before last, from the 19th century to the beginning of the 20th century—when Italian orthography opted to eliminate the letter J and write practically all words with the letter I. And many people who only superficially know the Italian language go around saying that there is no J in Italian. So, that everything with the letter J in Italian is foreign.

[00:05:59]I've read and heard this nonsense a lot, said with great certainty by some people, claiming that the letter J, when present, means something is foreign, not originally Italian. And that is absolutely false. So, to reiterate, the letter J does not exist in the current Italian alphabet because, during the development of the language, the decision was made to stop writing with the letter J and use only the letter I. The letter J remains in Italian in some toponyms, that is, place names, and eh in some surnames.

[00:06:46]So, the use of the letter J in Italian is considered an archaic, conservative spelling, right? So, for example, we have several municipalities in Italy, not counting the hamlets, the small villages, we have several municipalities in Italy that contain the letter J. So, for example, the most, perhaps the most famous of all and the largest municipality with the letter J is the municipality of Iesolo, which is in the province of Venice. Iesolo, which was formerly called Cavaduquerina, came to be called Iesolo, which is also an even older toponym that they wanted to reclaim. So, iésolo is spelled with an initial j, iésolo, okay? Eh, and we have Iesi in the province of Ancona, eh, we have Icurso in the province of Catanzaro, IELSI in the province of Campobasso, eh, Ierago in the province of Varese, Iolanda of Savoia in the province of Ferrara. Even the name Iolanda in Italian is spelled with a J, right? Because we had a character, a personality from Italian royalty, who was Yolanda.

[00:08:13]Well, in Agediento, we even have a municipality that starts with J and the second name has an X, which is also a very rarely used letter in Italian, which is Iopolo Jancasio or Janco. But in Sicilian, the letter J is pronounced like in Portuguese, with an X, right? Iopolo Jancao, right? So, there are several locations, right? Letoiani, for example, and I'm talking about those I just mentioned, are the ones that start with J, but we have several other municipalities that have J in the middle. In Sicily we have Letoiani in the province of Messina, we have Moio Alcántara in the province of Messina. So the letter J exists in several place names in Italy.

[00:09:10]Then, regarding surnames, there are several surnames that have retained the letter J. Although we will find these same surnames written sometimes with i, sometimes with j. Example, hello. Aello is most commonly spelled with an i, but there are families with aello spelled with a j.

[00:09:33]Scaiola, Iacobucci, Iovine, and so on. In Italy, we have either "tai" with a " y" or, sorry, "Taiani" with a "J," or "Taiane" with an "I." These spellings are competing, some more archaic and conservative, and others more modern, opting for the use of the letter "I." Therefore, it's important to make it clear to everyone watching this that the letter "J" is part of the Italian language.

[00:10:11]The letter I was chosen instead of the letter J previously used. For example, in the Italian word yeri, which means yesterday. Formerly, the letter 'yer' was spelled with a J. J I. Later, it became conventional to use only the i. And so it is with several other words that, in that condition, between vowels or at the beginning of the word, used the letter J. Therefore, it's important to make it clear that an Italian surname with the letter J has absolutely no indication that, just because of that, it should be considered non-Italian or foreign.

[00:11:00]So, I don't know whose creative mind came up with the idea that he would be Albanian, which makes no sense at all. So, to clarify this regarding the J that Datadone refers to, allow me to add just one small observation.

[00:11:18]This is also a derivation of a problem from Latin, right, which did n't have the letter J, right, eus, for example, for Jesus, right, and so on, right, Julius for Julius, right, it also comes from Latin, that is, the J wasn't used.

[00:11:39]Exactly.

[00:11:39]When we talk about sanguinis and soli, it's spelled with an i.

[00:11:46]Writing, which dates back to medieval times, began using the letter J, which, I repeat, was an elongated I, nothing more than that. The letter J became a way of simplifying writing to avoid confusion when the letter I appeared. That's why the letter J, or rather, the long i, is only used at the beginning of a word followed by a vowel, right?

[00:12:24]And between two vowels, as is the case with " tai," okay? J A a I. Ah, are there other situations where J is used outside of these situations? It exists, but these are very exceptional cases. I'm not going to waste my time talking about them here; there's no point in it. It exists, but it's even rarer, okay? So, this is to talk about Taiani's supposed Albanian origin, which makes no sense whatsoever. We'll talk about the name Tai later today. And why are we doing this live stream?

[00:13:02]Because our dear Taiani, who I once thought was a serious person, obviously isn't for several reasons, right? In other words, in those 4 years he managed to amass a string of blunders and ridiculous things that he utters at various times. I obviously don't want to get into politics here, but this is someone who says so much nonsense that it's unbelievable, right?

[00:13:32]He seems like a very serious person, I don't know what, but he says a lot of nonsense. And yesterday or today, I think it was yesterday, Taiani said that his last name would derive from his first name and what he classified, you know, what he is, how do you say?

[00:13:55]He said he was an Islamic prophet named Altijan.

[00:14:00]I don't know what inspired Taiane to invent this ridiculous thing, because he must know very well his family's origins and that there is absolutely no reason for him to invent such nonsense.

[00:14:19]Okay, he was trying to be friendly with the people he was talking to, the people from North Africa. I do n't know, but inventing something so nonsensical really says a lot about that man's character. Eh, eh, eh, eh, I'm not going to stop commenting. Ahmad Altijani was a sheriff, that is, he was a man, you know, a person connected to Islamic theology who, in theory, was a descendant of Muhammad, which is why he is a sheriff.

[00:15:00]He is not a prophet of Islam; it is a gigantic ignorance to call a person who lived in the 10th century, between the 16th and 19th centuries, a prophet of Islam, because anyone knows that in Islam there is a last prophet named Muhammad.

[00:15:26]This is the last one, there isn't another one, right? So, it starts there. Oh, and he called that an Islamic prophet, which he isn't.

[00:15:35]And this Altijani, he lived between 1735 and 1815. I'll repeat that. The man from whom he claims his surname derives, Ahmed Altijani, lived between 1735 and 1815.

[00:15:53]The surname Taiani, however, has been officially recorded since at least the 1400s in the province of Salerno.

[00:16:09]In other words, look how crazy this is. In other words, in his family tree, let me pull it up here, in his family tree, he has ancestors born before Altijani in Vietri Sulmare, which is a locality in the province of Salerno, and Taiani is even an honorary citizen of Viriulare, because his family is from Virire.

[00:16:41]Tressurmara.

[00:16:44]So how can he say that his last name derives from a guy who lived, let's say, in the 17th century, when his genealogy is easily older than that? One. Then surnames in Italy became consolidated there between the years 1300 and 1000.

[00:17:08]This depends on the location, it depends on the surname. In other words, how can he say that his last name comes from a man who lived in North Africa in the 17th century? You are something of such absurd size that I don't know how someone can say that with such a straight face. So, just to clarify this about the origin he mentioned, it came out of nowhere, right?

[00:17:35]Regarding the surname Tai, it's a surname with a known origin. The surname Taiani, it's not a surname that people don't know where it comes from. The surname Taiani is a derivation, a variant, an orthographic and phonetic development of Otaiani.

[00:18:00]Otaiani, in turn, comes from the name Otávio. Right? Octaviano.

[00:18:08]So, Taiani derives from otaiani, which means what? People who have an origin in a municipality that is now in the province of Naples called Otaviano, which until 1933, that is, historically yesterday, was called Ottaiano.

[00:18:31]To reiterate, there is a municipality in the prophecy of Naples called today, as of 1933, Otaviano, which until 1933 was called Otaiano. It has the letter V, that is, Taiani, meaning it's definitely true, there's no doubt about the origin of the surname Taiani. It comes from a municipality that is now called Otaviano.

[00:19:01]And with that discussion closed, have no doubt about it. And from that place, right, surnames emerged, right? This is also a book about surnames.

[00:19:15]Surnames such as Otaviani, Otaviano, Otaiano, Taiani, Taiano, Taviani, and Tavian originated from this place. Okay? So, several other surnames originated from that place, okay?

[00:19:31]And the name Otaiano, Otaviano, Otaiano until 1933, it is attested from around the 11th century, okay? In other words, the place with that name already existed there from the 11th century onwards, meaning we 're talking about the year 1100, okay?

[00:19:58]before the use of surnames. So, most likely these surnames referred to people who had some connection with the locality called Otaviano.

[00:20:13]And that's basically it, about the history of the surname Taiani and about the origin of Minister Taiani, which is known. He is an honorary citizen of Vietul.

[00:20:27]He even has an uncle, a great-great-uncle, that is, a brother of a great-grandfather named Diego Antônio Taiani. He was a political magistrate, he was a senator, he was already a politician. He comes from a wealthy family, a family of people who already made up of politicians, magistrates, etc. He does n't come from, he doesn't descend from, peasants who don't know their own origins. His father was a high-ranking military officer, right?

[00:21:00]His father's name is Rafaele Taiani. So, his family is registered, and very well registered. So he certainly knows that. The reason he lied publicly, that says a lot about his character, doesn't it? Regarding that person's character.

[00:21:18]So it is. Eh, Tadon. This also speaks to the issue of the political instrumentalization of surnames, right? Suddenly he tried, as you initially said, to please some of the people he was talking to, right? Well, it's interesting that, regarding citizenship, surnames have become less important according to the law, right? How do you see that framework over there, right? Well, Italian identity is linked to names, very strongly so, even with all those mistakes that we know registry offices made, even in Italy itself, right? Eh, eh, and suddenly he's going to look deep down for something that comes close enough to also use as an instrument, right?

[00:22:12]Well, obviously we have a lot to talk about, right? I just sent you some news, right, about one of the side effects of the decree of shame, which I've also called the Hell Razer decree, and that this Hell Razer effect will multiply many times over. We are going to start seeing these, and uh, these multiplications of the harmful effects of the decree. We are starting to see it now. It's playing the thing I sent you; this news is an unwanted side effect.

[00:22:52]So they'll definitely find a way, just like they did in Trento, right?

[00:22:57]Because the judge, I think the judge from Trento, says that the effects of the decree only apply to that bunch of inconvenient, unwanted people who live abroad, right? Therefore, the decree does not apply to those who live in Italy. That's basically what the judge meant. Her decision is correct. I think she made the right decision, although I'm not sure if I agree with her reasoning, but anyway. And uh, obviously Taiani hasn't said this kind of nonsense before, right? And it tells us a lot about what he really thinks about Italians abroad, especially when we're talking about older generations, right? So, we've become just a nuisance, right? an unwanted group that he doesn't, he doesn't just, right?

[00:23:48]Because Taian is a symptom, right? Well, because, you know, I'll take this opportunity to talk only about this genealogical or nomadic part, but there are still people saying in WhatsApp groups that Georgia Melone wasn't to blame for anything regarding the shameful decree. She was either a poor thing or she was forced to accept the decree because Taiane insisted, otherwise he would withdraw parliamentary support and the government would fall. That's so laughable, it's ridiculous, so atrocious, isn't it? Why?

[00:24:21]Firstly, because the Italian Fratelli, which is Melone's party, voted unanimously in favor of the shameful decree, without any dissent. One. Two, the deputies and senators of Fratel de Itália supported the decree in speeches in parliament. It's registered, I didn't make it up. They said it explicitly there, including one who is the brother of the governor of Calabria, Kuto, who are Maie's partners, right? The Minister of Internal Affairs went there to support those people in Calabria, and he was one of the biggest defenders of the shameful decree. There it is. For those who want to see in the annals, in the videos of the parliamentary work, the Meloni Salvini Taiani government fully supported the only person, the only parliamentarian from the Lega party who voted against it, he didn't make a speech, but he voted against it, that was Dimitri Coin. And we're going to record this here because it deserves applause, but it was the only one. No other option for Tel Italy received a full vote. Jorgia Melone plays a key role in the shameful decree, in the citizenship reform. She is not a victim.

[00:25:54]People may like her, find her nice, whatever, they may think she's doing a good job as governor, everyone can think what they want. Now, to claim that Georgia Meloni or Mateus Salvini are hostages of Tai is delusional.

[00:26:13]And that's it. I also don't want to talk much more about it, because we've already talked about it several times. So, uh, uh, we're talking about this genealogical and onomastic issue. Tai is a 100% Italian surname. Tai is a surname derived from the city of Otaviano, which until 1933 was called Otaiano in the province of Naples.

[00:26:44]Antonio Taiani's family is originally from a town in the province of Salerno, which is 30 km from Otaviano, okay? Vietre Sulmare and Otaviano are about 35 km apart, right?

[00:26:57]Yeah, so it's very close. So the surname Taiani originates from Ottaano, meaning Octavian. And his family has been in that location for at least 600 years, okay? So, in other words, it has nothing to do with Albanian origin, nothing to do with the origin of a 17th-century prophet, in other words, it 's all a delusion. One of them was a delusion among our Italian-Brazilian social media users, that he was Albanian; I don't know who invented that. And now the minister's own delusion that his surname is inspired by a 17th-century prophet. Yeah, that's how it is, I don't know which of the two is more ridiculous.

[00:27:46]Yes, he said that whatever is venuto, is venuto from there. Qualqu é venuto de lá, né?

[00:27:52]But actually, as you demonstrate, the surname already pre-exists someone who could have come from there, at least as a descendant or from the time of that prophet he refers to, right, Tadone? Your explanation is pretty clear, right? Okay, I think we can wrap up on that topic. And I said that I wanted to do something quick and I'll thank the crying of the ex- Italians who keep asking if I'm going to renounce my citizenship and keep giving R$10 to Peron. Keep going, but ask that question and keep making super chats of R$10. Actually, make them R$ 100, make more so that Peron wins the super chat, right? So, continue.

[00:28:37]I thank him for that intervention.

[00:28:40]I was there to watch the super chat before we gave you the floor to wrap things up. So there's someone signing up with the whining of former Italians, probably intentionally, saying: "Tadoni, if I bet you a peanut candy on the outcome of a football match, it would make sense for me to keep my word 40 years after the game. Will you honor your word when you resign?"

[00:29:06]Then later on he returns to the subject. Hey Tadoni, if, as you said, Tajani invents something that doesn't exist, it says a lot about his character. What about someone who doesn't honor their word and doesn't keep their promises? This is then the one, the ex, the cry of the ex-Italians that he introduces himself like this. Then, one of my strong observations reveals that my family is Yakobuti or Jacob de Kia. I liked. I mean, she's giving a personal example of this J and I issue, right? J and Ita.

[00:29:56]OK. Don, if you want to comment on these, it's what these two are, just... Ah, there's nothing more here. Well, and no, I don't like that because then it becomes a question of... we observe here that we should stay on topic, not offend people, talk about the argument and not offend people. Then he comes, but he pays the price with pleasure. I receive them with pleasure, of course. Now, I wouldn't want this to feed that kind of thing, would I? Oh, he's coming back here again. You said that the higher courts wouldn't, but if the higher courts didn't overturn the Tajani decree, you would renounce your citizenship. The Constitutional Court did not do so. Okay, so, before I get to the point, I'll say this: everyone's saying, all the legal experts are saying, the issue isn't closed yet, the conversation isn't over. We have a hearing on the 9th now, the sentence from the Caçassone Court hasn't come out yet. The legal experts there are saying that it's going to be difficult, both for what the Court of Cassation, the Constitutional Court, intended to say to prevail, and for what the Court of Cassation, the Court of Cassation, had been saying to prevail.

[00:31:23]I mean, those of us who are following this step by step know that the game isn't over yet. I mean, I'm not trying to bail Tadon out of his promise. I'll leave the floor open for discussion. I just think that this type of debate doesn't add anything for our audience. Just that. Tadone, please.

[00:31:43]Ah, I... I have to take this with a sense of humor because there's no other alternative, right? I've already spoken about this, and I have no problem talking about the subject again. Eh, eh, and Peron gave me a great one, I said I would resign. He didn't say when, so I owe him, I don't deny it, I'll pay when I can. Never, I don't know, I don't know.

[00:32:01]Life, life is full of surprises, isn't it? It's like football, it's a box of surprises. Let's wait and see, shall we? Hey, meanwhile, you can send super chat messages and not R$2, let's give some more detailed super chat messages and we'll talk about the topic. Anyway, it 's GC Berto anyway, thank you, Tadon Peron, for everything. I mean, there's also an understanding of our efforts here to debate, inform, and discuss, right? That's the goal, okay? Okay, let's wrap things up. Okay, I'll give the floor back to you so you can make your final remarks and conclude our interview today. Well, knowing that you're just arriving back in Brazil after a long trip, you must be incredibly tired, right? I was the one who disturbed your peace and quiet today.

[00:32:53]Yes, definitely. Very tired. I still need to, I haven't been able to declare my income yet. There are two days left, but I'll manage. Eh, eh, [laughs] and well, I came from Italy, full of new books, very happy with my new books. Oh, and by the way, I'd like to thank my dear friend Maria Antonieta Madeu, who was the custodian of my books, you know, who received all the books I kept buying at CEO, etc. And she stayed there keeping the books safe so I could take them, okay? I'll send my regards to my friend who doesn't usually watch, but anyway, if she comes to see it, here's my... my thanks to Maria Antonieta. Well, and there are books, including more books about surnames, which is a topic that I, well, names, surnames, or nomastics in general, is a topic that I like, that I like very much. And finally, the concluding remarks are, to summarize without being repetitive, but so that if someone picks up this section, I'll give a very brief summary of the issue.

[00:34:01]Tai is a 100% Italian surname. Taiane with the letter J, which has the same equivalent as the letter I. Actually, I didn't mention that before. I'll say it now. The letter J in Italian sounds exactly the same as the letter I, right? Obviously, we could even say that it might have a slightly more pronounced "i" sound, but that's normal when "i" is between two vowels, right? But the sound is exactly the same. It's not Tajani, it's not Taha, as some of our brothers say, Tahani, right? Ou tajani. Tani is not Tai.

[00:34:40]Yes, you pronounce the J as if it were an I.

[00:34:43]And the surname Taiani, whether written with a J or an I, is a variant of Otaiani, which in turn originates from a place called Otaviano, which until 1933 was called Ottaiano, okay? The family of Antônio Taiani is documented there at least from the 15th century, meaning it's a family that has been there for at least 500 or 600 years.

[00:35:22]with that surname and is a family from Vietris Sulmare, a municipality of which Antônio Taian is an honorary citizen, therefore, a family of wealthy people, of judges, politicians, senators. He already had an uncle, a great-great-uncle, who was a senator for the Kingdom of Italy, okay? So Taiani has no foreign origin. His genealogy shows no origins that are not Italian. And that's as far as the eye can see. In other words, he has no Arab, Albanian, or Chinese ancestors, nothing. He is 100% Italian, he doesn't have any of those inventions, neither the inventions of our Italian Brazilians, nor the invention, which, well, uh, I've already commented on this and has absolutely no basis.

[00:36:21]So that's it, Taiani is 100% Italian, both in surname and origin. And that's it.

[00:36:30]Thank you very much, Tadon. It's always good to be informed so we don't get carried away by social media sometimes, right? Someone often invents a joke, and it ends up being taken seriously.

[00:36:45]Although in Tai's case, what he actually said was portrayed, and it was all reported by Corrier de Lacera, right? He even published it. In other words, what he said is properly documented. Nobody's sailing on top of made-up things, right? We're simply taking the opportunity to explain. And all of this is important to know within that context, right? It's important to know. Eh, eh, and Tadon was a master today, as he always is, in these genealogy matters that he knows very well, right? Thank you, Dr. Don, to everyone who has been following us here as well, both on YouTube and Instagram. Today, today we actually managed to do it in all areas, both in X and everything, everything is fine, no problem.

[00:37:30]Everyone here knows I'm a technician, and sometimes I get confused when it comes to computers; I'm still very much an analog person, you know? I'm always learning, right? But today, things went smoothly, right? Thank you, everyone. Until next time. Whenever I have news, we'll take a chance on it. Thank you, Tadon.

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