Why Intellectuals Are Secretly The Freakiest People

[00:00:00]Well, I >> [laughter] >> I actually live in Boston now.

[00:00:03]>> Like you live there literally?

[00:00:04]>> Yeah. Yeah, for real. I moved there I mean >> it right?

[00:00:07]>> are you?

[00:00:08]>> Hey, how are you?

[00:00:08]>> How are you?

[00:00:09]>> Boston. Boston. Boston. Boston.

[00:00:12]Boston.

[00:00:13]>> It's not Boston.

[00:00:14]>> It is >> Boston.

[00:00:16]>> Boston. Boston. Okay. Okay.

[00:00:18]>> Yeah.

[00:00:18]>> Okay. Okay. Okay.

[00:00:19]>> I said I'm from Cambridge.

[00:00:22]>> Oh, that's fancy.

[00:00:22]>> Yeah. Wait, so why did you move there?

[00:00:24]Where did you Where did you come from originally that you moved there?

[00:00:26]>> From Yeah. I I lived up up in New England. Um well, and then lived here for 6 years.

[00:00:33]>> Yeah.

[00:00:34]>> Uh and and Bushwick. Um and then I I just hit a wall. Well, I'm on tour so much anyway.

[00:00:41]But I like depending on the conversation, like if I um can't really get into it, I just say, "Oh, I might worry. I didn't want to pay New York rent."

[00:00:56]>> [laughter] >> BUT LIKE THE REAL REASON I I lived in Bushwick. Do you know Do you know Bushwick?

[00:01:02]>> Yeah, we know Bushwick.

[00:01:03]>> But I I I hit a wall. I I couldn't like I loved You love Bushwick until you hate it.

[00:01:11]I I Yeah. But it it's so young bohemian.

[00:01:15]>> Ah.

[00:01:15]>> I like I I moved there at 25.

[00:01:18]>> Oh, yeah. So that's the right time. Yes.

[00:01:20]>> young bohemian polyamorous >> Young bohemian polyamorous is a great t-shirt.

[00:01:27]>> Polyamorous is better than promiscuous.

[00:01:29]>> [laughter] >> Any day.

[00:01:31]Made the right choice.

[00:01:32]>> HE'S ETHICAL.

[00:01:37]ETHICALLY MONOGAMOUS >> [laughter] >> ethically monogamous >> And ethically monogamous. We should actually stop that as a thing.

[00:01:43][laughter] I'm ethically monogamous.

[00:01:45]Thank you very much.

[00:01:46]>> I feel That's how being out there feels like. It's like I had to disclose >> To people >> that I was monogamous.

[00:01:55]>> Yeah, so that people know you're not.

[00:01:56]Yeah, because you know when you're in like what I like to call like vibe places.

[00:02:01]Yes.

[00:02:02]The the default flips, right? So, you you'll be in a place where what you normally think of as default is now no longer the default. So, when you're in that place you have to now say certain things. Yeah, when you're in those places it's vibe, cool, fashion, everything. You have to be like, "Oh, by the way, I'm straight." They're like, "Oh, oh, wow, okay. Look at you. How when did you get here? What are you doing here?"

[00:02:22]>> Ah, because people automatically assume.

[00:02:25]>> Yeah, because of the vibe cuz the vibe of the No, the vibe of the place is like it's dictated by something else. The fashion, the views the people have. It's actually think it's cool for people to go to places like that so that they can see what it's like to not be default. Do you know what I mean?

[00:02:38]>> Yeah.

[00:02:39]>> [clears throat] >> Well, I mean I I'm monogamous now and straight because I did the whole the whole like it's not for lack of trying.

[00:02:48]Like I did the whole And so, when I came out my Bushwick friends at a coffee bar as monogamous, they were like, "Good for >> [laughter] >> That's amazing to hear. Like, [laughter] wow.

[00:03:04]It sounds like a joke.

[00:03:07]>> [laughter] >> It's 100% that way.

[00:03:09]>> That's why it's funny to me. So, how long in Bushwick now?

[00:03:13]>> [clears throat] >> Before you left?

[00:03:14]>> Um six years. Yeah.

[00:03:17]>> You did your time.

[00:03:19]Till 31.

[00:03:20]>> I got to the age of 32 and I was just like >> Okay, but like no no shade to Boston, but like why Boston?

[00:03:30]>> Okay. Well, >> I don't know of anyone who moves to Boston like after New York, especially if they're in like comedy and stuff.

[00:03:35]>> I get that all the time. I get, "Why Boston?"

[00:03:38]>> Okay, great. So, I'm not crazy. Yeah.

[00:03:40]>> No, but I get Cambridge. So, so I live in Cambridge which is like Harvard, MIT area.

[00:03:48]So, I'm from Vermont, but I'm from Middlebury, Vermont which is a college like a very high-end college liberal town.

[00:03:58]>> Yeah.

[00:03:59]>> Um so it's the mixture of like I mean very familiar to me to be among college >> You just want to be around college kids.

[00:04:08]>> intellectuals and organized people.

[00:04:09]>> Oh, I was going in [laughter] a different direction. I thought Tina just wants to be around college kids.

[00:04:13]>> sweats.

[00:04:14]>> I was like I was like what is what is what is what are you exposing yourself to? Are you coming out of something else, Tina?

[00:04:18]>> Coming out of an intellectual >> kids.

[00:04:20]>> [laughter] >> There's kids around me.

[00:04:23]Kids with hope and dreams.

[00:04:25]>> It's not the kids, it's the it's the professors.

[00:04:28]>> Oh, it's the professors.

[00:04:31]>> [laughter] >> I mean It's like I love being around intellectual people because they are the freakiest ones.

[00:04:40]>> Damn.

[00:04:41]>> They Yeah.

[00:04:43]Okay?

[00:04:44]>> Why are you saying it like that?

[00:04:45]>> Yeah, like dude >> Have you been freaky or have you been intellectual? Who What are you What are you What are you about?

[00:04:52]>> out to you as normal.

[00:04:54]I'm from Bushwick.

[00:04:56]>> [laughter] >> the same table. Yeah, okay?

[00:05:00]>> No, when I saw when I saw that picture of Stephen Hawking at Epstein Island, then you were like then I knew >> I mean that >> [laughter] >> That is a harsh but accurate example.

[00:05:10]>> Yeah.

[00:05:10]>> Um but yeah, no, it it again it sounds like a joke, but 100% true that that intellectual academic nerds, you know, they're the ones who they they get I mean I mean they you know, so much of my comment is about kink, is about alternative underground lifestyles and people are like, "Oh, why would you move away from New York?"

[00:05:42]>> Yeah, I really did. It's truly the matter is that that Yeah, of course it's out here in New York.

[00:05:50]But in in Cambridge you know there I I actually think there is more creativity and more more energy towards uh kink spaces, alternative goth, you know, all the above.

[00:06:11]Um >> Do you think it's because the environment is all about people exploring in general? Like like Like what do you think it is?

[00:06:19]>> I You know what?

[00:06:21]>> Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah. Like if you're in a learning / experimenting environment why would you why would that not extend beyond your science and your math and your history and your writing into your sex life?

[00:06:33]>> [sighs and gasps] >> You know, I I I've been thinking about this. I don't 100% know, but I have theories. I Well, I >> You've come to the right place.

[00:06:44]>> [laughter] >> I I think >> tell you I'm a prophet.

[00:06:49]>> [laughter] >> In [ __ ] >> All of these sexy British topics may be like 45 minutes.

[00:06:57]>> Oh, no, no, no. No, we start hard. We go straight in.

[00:07:01]>> [laughter] >> So, here's here's my theory and you know I think it's too easy to just say oh to be in a um a more kind of conservative area that breeds um that that breeds this kind of belly and kink under I don't think it's that simple. I I I really I think that in my experience at least the the more logical that people are getting into the way the world works and way the humans work the the more um um the more permission they have, I I think, to to kind of explore who they are.

[00:07:51]>> Experiment, yeah.

[00:07:52]>> Um >> Mhm.

[00:07:54]>> What I I think that combined with a little bit of boredom >> [laughter] >> to be honest.

[00:08:02]Uh because being out in in Boston now it is sort of like I am I'm in Boston has a lot but it's no New York.

[00:08:14]>> Yeah, definitely.

[00:08:15]>> And to lower this kind of um standard of day-to-day uh stimulation it >> [laughter] >> I mean it really did for me um the you bring all always kind of build up um some something to fill the gaps. So and I think that for me >> No pun intended.

[00:08:40]Cuz I know where Eugene's mind goes, fill the gaps.

[00:08:43]>> [laughter] >> What are we talking about pink?

[00:08:46]Sorry Tina, I just had to block him.

[00:08:47]>> [laughter] >> I saw his eyes change.

[00:08:49]>> Why you Why you looking >> like give me a minute.

[00:08:52]>> I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.

[00:08:53]>> WE MIGHT HAVE A LOT OF ATTENTION.

[00:08:55][laughter] >> I WAS LOVING TINA'S THEORY.

[00:08:57]>> LEAVE me out of your >> I mean >> IF THERE'S A BUS, my [laughter] friend, I will throw YOU UNDER IT.

[00:09:08]PUT ON A BUS FOR YOUR LIFE.

[00:09:09]>> [laughter] >> I DON'T KNOW. I I I THINK that it's just it's it's that combination, you know, what it is.

[00:09:17]Um boredom and then this human nature of our brain to fill fill in the gaps with with your your own stimulus. And then of course there's the elephant in the room that that um you know, often academic people um their you know their role playing D&D. Their >> Oh, yeah. That's true.

[00:09:45]>> Yeah. You know, um there's a um a large percentage who are autistic and that is a huge uh population among the kink scene.

[00:09:58]>> Really?

[00:09:59]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:10:00]>> Autism?

[00:10:00]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:10:01]Oh, 100%. Yeah.

[00:10:03]>> Wait, really?

[00:10:04]>> Yeah.

[00:10:06]>> Kina, where have you been all my life?

[00:10:09]>> [laughter] [gasps] >> But I mean >> What's your address?

[00:10:12]We need to HANG OUT.

[00:10:13]>> WAIT, WHAT? TELL US MORE ABOUT THE AUTISM THEN.

[00:10:16]>> HOW ARE YOU?

[00:10:17]>> [laughter] >> I HOW ARE YOU?

[00:10:20]>> I'M FROM BOSTON. BOSTON.

[00:10:22]>> NO, BUT YEAH. BOSTON. BOSTON.

[00:10:25]>> [laughter] >> NO, but I mean I um Well, what I think I think that uh autism people who have autism they they do find a lot of comfort and community in the in any kind of alternative scene.

[00:10:43]>> Yeah, because it it's it's automatically welcoming to the idea of the other. Like it it it it's more accommodating. Yeah, more accommodating than a default.

[00:10:52]>> Well, exactly. And and there is this masking what they what they call masking which we all do. Right. Um we lose the the kinds of them of being normal among society [laughter] in order to be accepted and and uh yeah. Um and having that that guard let down, you know, it really there's like >> [sighs] >> with kink and with a lot of alternative spaces especially with the internet, there's a cringe factor that people now have to be aware of.

[00:11:32]Um And I I with with King King D&D, any kind of nerd fandom, you know, that's where um dark romance comes from.