This case exposes the fatal flaw of a legal system that prioritizes procedural interrogation over basic human observation. It is a haunting reminder that institutional tunnel vision can transform a dying victim into a suspected criminal.
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You tell me they shot you with a revolver in your eye?
>> Yes. Was it a BB gun?
No, it was a real gun, man. It was just a revolver shot. They shot you in the eye, you wouldn't be talking to me right now. It was most likely you'd be dead.
I'm trying to go back to sleep and try to go back to sleep. You're not going back to bed.
Do you even know why you're down here, Ryan?
You have no idea why you're down here.
Okay.
I don't know what happened, okay?
So, I'm going to read you something to make sure you understand your rights, okay?
Ever seen a TV show Cops or CSI or anything like that? Okay. You ever seen that? No. You've never seen any kind of cop show, lawyer show, any kind of show? Yeah. Okay.
I want you to listen up real closely.
You have the right to remain silent.
Anything you say can be used against you in a court of law.
What's the What's the you went through school?
I don't know.
I don't know.
You don't know what the highest grade you went through?
8th 8th grade?
Did you graduate? Yeah.
Did you Do you have a GED?
I don't know.
You don't know what? I don't know.
I don't know.
I just want to go home. You're not going to go home right now.
What's the highest grade that you completed?
>> B No.
Not not grade as in letter grade. I'm asking did you graduate high school?
No.
And the highest you went was 8th grade?
Mhm.
Yep.
Do you know how to read and write, Ryan?
Yeah.
Do you have a girlfriend?
Mhm.
Mhm.
No?
Do you know Do you know a girl named Heather?
Mhm.
What's Heather's last name?
I don't know. The one that lives there right now?
I guess. I don't know. If her name's Heather, what's her last name?
I don't know what her name she's trying to use as her last one.
She's trying to use her real last as a nickname. So, I don't know.
What nickname does she go by?
She probably wants the last name Kaiman.
Kaiman?
How old is Heather?
16 or 17.
Is she a white girl? Yeah.
How did you meet I've known her since school.
I don't know.
You just know her from school? She used to be in business name.
She used to be in the class. In your business class? Mhm.
All right.
What happened to your face?
I don't know.
You told the officer just a few minutes ago that someone hit you.
Do you remember who hit you?
I think it was Heather.
Why would Heather hit you?
It was an accident. I forgot why.
What was an accident?
Heather's last name? No. What was an accident? Heather hitting me.
What did she hit you with?
Her hand in the eye.
Did you guys have an argument?
Not really, no.
Not really? Uh-uh. What happened for her to hit you in the eye like that? She just hit me on an accident. She was giving Christina a head.
She was what?
She was having Christina with her hair or something. I don't know.
Who's Christina?
She's on the couch.
Christina's on the couch?
>> [music] >> What happened last night?
I don't know.
You don't know? I really don't.
I just want to go to sleep and go to sleep.
Well, you remember Heather hitting you in the eye, right?
I don't know what anybody was doing. I really don't. Who was in the house when you went to sleep?
Christina and Heather.
Christina and Heather? Mhm.
And Christina was on the couch?
Heather was. Heather was on the couch?
You told me Christina was on the couch just a minute ago.
I don't know, man. I really don't. I really don't. You just don't know? I really don't, man. I just want to go home and go to sleep, man.
All right, you're not going to go anywhere.
Do you know what happened in your house last night? Mhm.
Is that house yours? Mhm.
Yours or your parents'? Mine. All right, what happened?
I don't know what happened. You're all beat up.
So, tell me what happened.
>> I don't know. I just want to go to sleep, man.
That's it.
There's a dead girl in your living room.
She's dead? Yes. Heather?
I don't know.
I want to know what happened in your house last night.
The girl on the couch is dead?
I don't know. If she's on the couch, she's dead.
Well, these people came over, Richie and his dad.
They were shooting air ball and darts.
You know what I'm talking about? Yeah.
Then it was me and her with those.
That's it. And Heather wasn't there. And Eric wasn't there. It was just me and Heather.
I was there. You and Heather were there?
And then what happened?
And that's it.
Richie and his dad tried to break in through the back.
Richie and dad, his dad? Mhm.
Who's Richie?
I don't know.
Well, you obviously know him. You know his name by your face.
>> to live there.
Was he a roommate of yours?
He used to be.
They hit you? Yeah.
Now, it's Richie that hit you, not Heather?
No, Richie and his dad. Richie and his dad.
They hit you? Yes. Why?
Cuz they were trying to get their stuff.
I don't know why.
And they had some kind of bow and arrows?
Mhm.
They each had two revolvers and they didn't leave any shells.
Okay, you just said they had bow and arrows. Now they have revolvers? That's what I meant. They have revolvers. They have revolvers?
>> Yes. And then what happened? And then they shot us with those.
They shot both of you? Yeah. Where did they shoot you at?
They shot me in the eye.
You got shot in the eye? I think so.
With a revolver? I think. I don't know, man. I don't know.
[ __ ] Then what happened?
I don't know.
You don't know a lot.
Ryan. I don't, man. I really don't.
Ryan, why don't you tell me what really happened there? Cuz I don't believe I really don't know, man. I really don't.
I don't know. I can't tell you anything.
That's what I want you to tell me the truth. That's all I want.
>> Luigi and his dad came in.
And I don't know why. I don't know why.
I don't know why, but they put me in sleeping hold. Like they put me in sleeping hold with the arrows and [ __ ] Like I lived through the that crap.
Okay, they they put you in a sleeping hold? Yeah. What is that?
I don't know. I don't know. I really don't. I don't know, man.
You're telling me they put you in a sleeping hold?
What is a sleeping hold?
I don't know.
Well, explain it. I don't I have a gun in your mouth.
Explain that to me. What's a sleepy hole?
I really don't know, man. Okay.
You're telling me You're you're all over the board here, number one. You're saying bows and arrows, you're saying revolvers, and you're saying it's some other thing, and they You're saying they shot you in the eye. Okay? They shot you with a revolver in your eye.
>> Yes.
And that's it.
>> Is it a BB gun? No, no, it was a real gun, man. It was just a revolver.
>> with a revolver, you wouldn't be talking to me with a revolver, you wouldn't be talking to me right now.
It was most likely you'd be dead. That's what I thought, too, man. I really don't know.
I really don't know, and I just want to go back to sleep and try to go back to bed.
You're not going back to bed.
Okay? That's not going to happen. What happened to Heather?
Heather got shot. Where did she get shot? Inside of the face, once. She got shot inside of the face?
>> Mhm.
How close were you to her when she got shot in the face? It was after I got shot, so I didn't even hear anything.
So, you got shot first? Mhm. And what happened? Did you fall to the ground?
Yeah, I was trying to get up and [ __ ] and I couldn't. And then she got shot? Mhm. And what Why did What What did you do? Did you call 911?
Uh-uh. Did you see if she was alive?
She was sleeping still, and that's it. I just let her sleep. She got shot in the side of the face, and you let her sleep?
Yes. This does not make sense, Ryan. I know, I didn't mean to, man. I'm sorry.
I didn't know if she was passing out.
That's because I got shot wrong once, too, and I was going to pass out. Okay, this is now, not before. You're saying right now you've been shot.
Yes.
>> In the eye.
Yes.
>> With a revolver. Yes. All right. Ryan, you need to start telling me the truth, cuz your story doesn't make sense.
>> I'm trying, man. I don't know. Just ask me anything, I'll tell you the truth.
Just ask me. Well, I'm trying to, and you're not even coming close to the truth.
Go on, ask me.
What happened with you and Heather last night?
Her dad came and shot the house.
And shot her. Mhm.
Her dad shot her. Mhm. All right.
And then leaves. Mhm. And what did you do?
I tried to go back to sleep.
After you've been shot? Mhm. In the eye?
Mhm.
You didn't know enough to call 911? Mhm.
Why didn't you call 911?
Cuz I was just trying to go to sleep.
That's it. You just saw Richie and his dad shoot your girlfriend, and you just felt like you needed to go to sleep?
Ryan, look at me.
Ryan. Yes. I don't know, man. I really don't know.
>> Why did you shoot Heather, Ryan?
>> I didn't shoot Heather. She was already shot once by her brother, I swear.
Richie?
>> Yes.
Richie shot his own sister?
>> Yes, I swear. That's it. So, that's not me.
And you've been shot in the eye. Yes.
Put your feet up on the table, please.
My feet hurt, man. I don't know why. Get them up on the table.
Let me see them, please. Put your Put your Put your legs down.
Put your legs down.
Bring Bring your face closer.
Oh, my head hurts.
Okay.
Yeah, be be right back.
Finalmente il detective prende almeno in considerazione il fatto che Ryan potesse starsi trovando in una qualche forma di >> Right.
Well, we'll take him.
I don't know why we can tell.
Did that all Is it been like that before or just happened tonight? It's been like a day or so.
When did this all happen on the other night?
>> I don't know. You don't know what happened.
Were there guns around?
This kid Eric did it. I don't know how he did it exactly.
I might have been shot. I don't know.
What are you waiting on?
I don't know.
It looks like it went right through, huh? Yeah, it might have. I don't know.
All right.
Care amanti del drama al prossimo caso.
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